assassination

[strange python]

congrats

[junior aurora]

(still not hero track)

[mystic osprey]

anyone tried this build?

seems good if youre good at pooling

dunno how I feel about the energy

[balmy condor]

don't care didn't ask

[mystic osprey]

Whispyr I watched your vid on pooling it feels so much better

youre actually a god bro

[haughty flicker]

huge

[willow kite]

isn't this the standard acro build?

[sweet dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-stare-the-amazing-digital-circus-blank-stare-existential-crisis-gif-1974929007435593398

[mystic osprey]

yeah

[strange python]

In my efforts to farm for a branch i did hit my 2k io already. so thats pog. But loot is less than scarce

[slim estuary]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[upper spear]

i think the worst part about playing Assassin is subconciously downloading Whispyrs sleep schedule.

[royal lantern]

now hell me getting a dagger

[balmy condor]

I'd need to have one for you to download it

but yeh nah

I'm done

[mystic osprey]

watch me get trinket at myth in vault :)

[balmy condor]

[mystic osprey]

I got the dreamcarver as well

is it bis

[balmy condor]

it's a dagger

that isn't named nick of time

so no

[mystic osprey]

I got that other trinket as well

the time one

[junior aurora]

but you can macro it into your deathmark macro

[gaunt moat]

hah, that's one way of doing it
But i'd rather provide a better solution.
Just wasn't even sure if people also want to hide the icon or not

[junior aurora]

can't macro nick of time in there

[upper spear]

what do u think we're running for M+ next week

[mystic osprey]

depression

severe social anxiety

[soft shale]

a tank and a healer

at least

[mystic osprey]

3 dps maybe

as well

[strange python]

maybe 2 healers with some of the boss damage so far

[soft shale]

daring are we

[junior aurora]

my copium is that

[mystic osprey]

its cooked af cunt lmao

[soft shale]

people will remember why we hated BRH and DHT

[junior aurora]

maybe all of these hard abilities are buffed by fortified

[soft shale]

in tyr

[junior aurora]

and not tyrannical

[upper spear]

[soft shale]

in legion

[mystic osprey]

at least we're sorta good on t week

we have sexy st

[soft shale]

assa is paper tho

well rogue in general

[balmy condor]

this trinket is so free

why are people complaining about this

[soft shale]

if shit comes quite often

[junior aurora]

yeah at least it comes from lke

[soft shale]

people cant make triangles

[junior aurora]

the 2nd easiest dungeon this season

[soft shale]

you are asking too much

[junior aurora]

imagine having to spam throne of the tides 17+ for it

miserable

[willow kite]

my balls are in mechanics but I need to fetch them now

[balmy condor]

run right run left afk

[soft shale]

BEHOLD THE POWER OF PURE WATER

[willow kite]

no, trinket isn't that bad

[upper spear]

these guys are on it

[willow kite]

seeing other peoples balls is kinda trash tho

[junior aurora]

if you run 5 dps maybe

maybe you can ignore last boss mechanics and just blast

[haughty flicker]

back to no healers pog

[balmy condor]

how much stealthi sim for?

203k?

[haughty flicker]

something like that

[balmy condor]

yo I got this

surely

[haughty flicker]

208k actually

jesus

[hardy dagger]

Jfc

Disgusting gear

[balmy condor]

see

easy

[haughty flicker]

ez

[balmy condor]

284k

[upper spear]

nice

[balmy condor]

suck eggs stealthi

[hardy dagger]

Just sim with pi

[junior aurora]

2184122 dps

crazy numbers

you need tto sandbag more

take vicious venoms

[balmy condor]

I can do better

hold pls

[upper spear]

wheres that Tmog from btw? Mage tower?

[haughty flicker]

yes

thats mage tower

[balmy condor]

ye

[haughty flicker]

i sim a massive 164k

im basically right there

[junior aurora]

once i can equip my tier on tuesday surely ill sim for 200k

(im only 164k right now too)

[haughty flicker]

im hoping i get lucky and get tier next week

[royal lantern]

191k

[balmy condor]

yeah see

sin nerfs inc

[haughty flicker]

wtf

delete before realz sees

[fickle latch]

Noob question guys, do we apply rupture on 4cp or always go for full ?

[balmy condor]

all finishers on 4

[fickle latch]

Thank you my good sir

[balmy condor]

quick

hide the sims

[junior aurora]

thats a lot of finishers for 1 keybind

[upper spear]

GG

[junior aurora]

whats syour macro for that

[upper spear]

same macro Aug uses

ez

[junior aurora]

now sim it no dance

[balmy condor]

yeah that's a legit sim, it's just with acro

acro is +214800% dps

trust

[balmy condor]

unreal

[weak sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-jaw-drop-what-whut-eyeglass-gif-17744915

[balmy condor]

-11 million dps

[junior aurora]

i dont think i can accept an 11m dps loss

[weak sierra]

how do you contain so much power in a single keyboard?

[junior aurora]

his electricity bill

[balmy condor]

every button on my keyboard

secretly holds the power of god

a 64bit unsigned integer

[mystic osprey]

Power of the God of War

[weak sierra]

every button is macro'd to untalent then retalent acro

[mystic osprey]

Acro 😭

[grand trail]

is there some tracker for BOEs on diff realms? cant find any

[weak sierra]

btw, is it a known bug that shiv can pull the fat boss from outside its room? Had it happen yesterday, literally in the corridor and shiv started the boss

in waycrest*

with AP

[balmy condor]

ap's range is nowhere near that large

[weak sierra]

i mean, it literally said my shiv started the fight and we were outside the room

[royal lantern]

waycrest is just weird by default

[crisp ridge]

happened to me as well

[pastel onyx]

ye there are some pulling shenanigans goin on

since bfa

i think

[royal lantern]

had a paladon use divine tool there, and it pulled enemys from an upper floor

[balmy condor]

yeh idk

I don't trust that it's shiv

[junior aurora]

bro existing in that hallway pulls the 2nd story

its crazy how bad its gotten

[weak sierra]

yeah, im not convinced thats its anything with shiv specifically, just janky hit boxes and such

[royal lantern]

not as bad as the aoe visual clarity

everbloom 2nd boss

light green poison on light green ground

fun

[junior aurora]

just run out during charge and melee is always safe

dont need visual clarity

[royal lantern]

i do that, the fucking dh's dont

[junior aurora]

well

[mystic osprey]

Drmon hunter pulled with eye beam through a wall

[junior aurora]

group with 2 rdps lol

[steel ridge]

i dont need any of those glow and icon shit, i just want a blank number to drool over

[mystic osprey]

It's waycrest

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/JUTFw/abe35198c7.png

guess its better than my bomb dispenser, time to go back into m0

[balmy condor]

?????

Seli?

[marble hemlock]

hi

[balmy condor]

Back to Everbloom prison with you

[marble hemlock]

hey

irideus is actually not that bad

http://puu.sh/JUTFI/99ff5a99d5.png

and you can upgrade them to 450

[balmy condor]

Still oversimming

[marble hemlock]

youre oversimming

[flint tusk]

based and actually real

[strange python]

goid meowning

[marble hemlock]

ill just rock the puzzlebox on smolderon

[slow needle]

Assuming its popped with Dance.

[strange python]

i do kinda like the 424 green trinket with agi and on hit effect from the auction house o.o its quiet high in dmg , any opinions ?

[slow needle]

Won't it be oversimming less?

Since no muts.

[royal lantern]

oh no

[balmy condor]

Not if the sim mutilates during dance which it does

[balmy condor]

Low item level, green trinket, boe

The trifecta of properties of a bad trinket

Don’t even know what it is

But it’s shit

[royal lantern]

aaaahhh, sandbagging again, i see

[balmy condor]

No actually the opposite and I fucking hate it

Cause I got pressured into adding that shit because it was like 150 dps better

Fucking cringe

[strange python]

uhh

let me look it up

[balmy condor]

Need to bring back the rule of no apl change unless >0.3%

[strange python]

it did perform well against no trinket at all

[balmy condor]

The gold standard of comparisons

[marble hemlock]

i apologize for my insane ramblings

[balmy condor]

You said “oh nyooooo skyline”

It’s not even noon

[marble hemlock]

yeah dude

[balmy condor]

You been drinking?

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

i wish

[strange python]

this one

[marble hemlock]

gotta give it some character, yaknow

[slow needle]

Just cracked open my first Monster in years, thanks for being a constant temptation Whispyr. So the first bad night sleep I had on a work night it was the first thing that came to mind to keep me awake.

[balmy condor]

Yeh sucks

[balmy condor]

Amen

[royal lantern]

it is for seli

checkmate

[slow needle]

Pacific Punch.

[strange python]

did 7% of my dmg at fyrrak o.o

[balmy condor]

Yeah 7% of….

[blazing jewel]

Tastes like straight syrup but goodge flavor

[strange python]

uh , am i allowed to post my logs in here ?

[balmy condor]

Ofc

[cunning geyser]

@balmy condor Hey your guides are great thanks a lot. I saw ur videos and understood the opener well but on the 2nd deathmark we want to go into stealth first no? So do we wait the vanish we delayed on the opener or do we wait to press dance + kingsbane first?

[balmy condor]

What

You just repeat the opener

Exact same sequence

[slow needle]

I couldn't find Ripper but this is similar enough to the idea of a liquid lolipop that I lke it.

[cunning geyser]

sure but how do you get ur stealth? Do you just press deathmark on an unbuffed garrote and rupture?

the opener makes us start from stealth but durinng combat I won't be

[balmy condor]

You shadow dance kingsbane

And then garrote

That’s your stealth

[cunning geyser]

ok that's what I was asking but I wasn't being clear

[strange python]

uh , here u go. wow analyzer did say i did good

[cunning geyser]

thanks

[strange python]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/92h4PdHqRjJQwVmp#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=85

[balmy condor]

Deathmark shiv dance+kb gar

That gar is empowered, no issues

[cunning geyser]

so on the 2nd deathmark you don't exactly repeat the opener as you would deathmark AFTER the SD + KB right?

[balmy condor]

No

Again

The same sequence

[balmy condor]

It’s just this

[cunning geyser]

ah I think I just misunderstood how deathmark worked

Deathmark doesn't snapshot anything I assume

it's adaptative right?

[royal lantern]

yes

[naive crane]

But the second DM is garr and rupture no? Since we cant open from stealth

[cunning geyser]

so even if you deathmark before the empowered gar/rupture it still will duplicate the empowered ones after they're applied

I guess

[strange python]

anyone can tell me if my logs look good ?

[balmy condor]

3500 dps in aoe with 500 agi meeehhh

That’s like an m0 Midas talisman

[balmy condor]

Yes

[strange python]

ok

[balmy condor]

Snapshotting rupture is unnecessary

[strange python]

its a singletarget trinket no o.o ?

[balmy condor]

Which

[strange python]

the green one

[balmy condor]

It’s a proc that can go on multiple targets

[strange python]

oh..

i didnt test in aoe yet

bought it yesterday

[balmy condor]

It’s mainly single target though

Not entirely wrong

[strange python]

oki

[grim jay]

Never has there been that much talk about a green low ilvl trinket

[balmy condor]

But yeh much much better trinkets out there

[strange python]

well my burst goes 190k singletarget. i gues thats alright ?

[grim jay]

Depends on a lot of stuff

[strange python]

like after kb is running complete i am standong at 190k ish

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna be honest I have no clue if that’s good given your gear

[strange python]

on fyrrak at least

[balmy condor]

I don’t have a frame of reference

[strange python]

well i was talking still about the log i send owo

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[strange python]

but there no low level rogues i gues uwu

[balmy condor]

Also true

450 is farmable

So bit rough

[strange python]

parse said with 441 i am at 56% so either i have something missing or i press buttons wrong

[fleet geyser]

Opinions on casting Ambush instead of Mutilates during Dance and Vanish windows? Even if blindslide is not procced

[balmy condor]

That’s what guides suggest and what 99% of people do

[fleet geyser]

Haha, done wrong the whole thing then.

Thanks 😄

[grim jay]

Ilvl parses are shit and you wont get any decent normal parse with low ilvl either way

[strange python]

mhm

i try to figure out if i play good or not for my gear like, can i generate more dmg than what i have done yet with same gear. i try to min max my brain sorry

[torn peak]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Yukminglaozh i sweated hard and had 71k dps on fyrakk with this gear

i feel like im gated by gear insanely

[strange python]

wait

[torn peak]

usually doing 90+100k overall on +10-13 keys

[grim jay]

You can basically just try your hardest on a fight thats close to patchwerk and then run a sim with that fightlength to compare

[strange python]

so with 84k at the same biss with lower gear, im not so bad after all then owo

[torn peak]

or should i link my sim to see whats my potential

[strange python]

i will try ty

[torn peak]

cause i barely fuckup my burst rotation anymore and i burst good then it falls off

[haughty flicker]

drogbar rocks would like to have a word

although i think that did upgrade to blue

[grim jay]

Drogbar on relevant ilvl was blue ye

[noble umbra]

anyone able to help me with a log?

[strange trail]

cant handle more glakronds fall, the dagger just dont drop T,T

[royal lantern]

stay strong brother

we can do this

[agile wedge]

guys, in one of our WA packs, there is a number in the envenom WA. what does it tell me

[royal lantern]

amplyfing poison stacks

[agile wedge]

ah okay, ty

maybe i show now iam really a noob, but why do i need to know it

[torn peak]

[grim jay]

laughing in 5 leech legs

I got my first 24 or something in. The second surely hits at around 50.

[strange trail]

no joke, did more them 20 galakrond 17-20 yesterday

[grim jay]

I remember the good old days of spaming plaguefall 94 times

[rotund oak]

im farming 18s,its kinda cringe.I got all loots from the loot table BUT the dagger

[royal lantern]

not really need too know, its just information

[agile wedge]

okay cool

ty

[strange trail]

sad days you mean, right ?

[grim jay]

Nah it was funny at that point

[magic fossil]

guys one question, for example, last boss of everbloom i maange to open 900k ~ 1m with sub, with sin a manage tops 600. Im doing something very wrong or it is what it is, sin will be ramping and will note have a strong burst, thank you

[grim jay]

Like as funny as despair gets

[rotund oak]

plaguefall doesnt start to compare to vault farm for countermeasures

and all done in a very limited amount of time

literally no life for a week

[grim jay]

Sin has great burst. Depending on your gear it just sounds like you are doing smth wrong

[strange trail]

here we go, another galakrond 18, wish me luck guyss

[round brook]

GL

[grim jay]

I had that fast

[magic fossil]

@grim jay welp, okay! will try to imprve.

[grim jay]

I think I even peak higher with sin than with sub

[tepid grove]

!offhand

[magic fossil]

hardly mate, we have 4 shadow dance for burst in a boss with 300% plus damage receive

but will look some videos

back to sin after years is driving me mad hahaha

[pseudo hamlet]

When I am doing AoE/Cleave, it's good to use mutilate on multiple targets, so they also spread their poison damage to others or should I just focus one mob?

I mean for the Spatter of course

[blazing jewel]

Spatter is only on 1 target

Can’t spread it

[grim jay]

I mean I dont know the specifics for everbloom since I got my stuff and the 20 there early, but I'm pretty sure Im atleast around 300k on bosses on average in dungeons

@magic fossil

[rotund oak]

i actually went through hell.Got it 2 hours before the event ended

had to farm endlessly for an entire week

[twin plume]

is there a way to increase talent loadout number?

[magic fossil]

@grim jay i must doing someting wrong mate, ill try to re-learn sin to te fullest

thanks

[slate gust]

Just picked up rogue as an alt. Am I only shiving during KB? Or do I only send one charge on KB?

[languid pier]

?fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[icy acorn]

you use DM -> Shiv -> Dance+KB

and reapply shiv once it runs out

[torn peak]

im watching jpc sometimes he doesnt give shit about keeping energy above %50 and blasts

when do u do that

[royal lantern]

you ignore sanguine blades

always

its a passive dmg increase that sometimes happens, thats it

[solid mica]

does dance and subterfuge count for master assassin?

[royal lantern]

dance yes

[torn peak]

but it shows like top 5 most damaging on my dps

seems like helping alot

[weak saffron]

hit mutilate harder 😄

[royal lantern]

because in aoe you have endless energy by default when multidotting

[torn peak]

so i should ignore sanguine blades on st

[royal lantern]

yes

you play around envenom, not SB

[agile wedge]

are these the correct to use poisons?

[royal lantern]

yes

[safe rover]

crippling on sanguine tho

[magic fossil]

not this week

[keen spruce]

sin can do big number on yalnu on the opener

but also KB crits

are kinda gonna make that shoot up

sometimes opener is like 700-800k, sometimes like 1.3m

[grim jay]

Cant change it tho

Unless no dtb

[keen spruce]

could just not run it

[strange trail]

FUCK YEA

[keen spruce]

just loses a stack of lethal dose

[keen spruce]

[safe patrol]

does stoneform clear roots on tindral ?

hc

[keen spruce]

probably

that shit clears everything

since cloak works

i'd assume stoneform does

[grim jay]

"Just"

[keen spruce]

i mean depends on how bad your tank is at managing sanguine

[grizzled trail]

So I guess I just scream for PI on vendetta?

Deathmark*

Jeez haven’t played this in a while lol

[keen spruce]

i have a macro setup with one of our priests

he has a weak aura

that when I whisper him a specific phrase

[grim jay]

Can use sanguine to get off your full kb

[keen spruce]

in this case "juice me!"

it puts a huge message on his screen to pi me

[grizzled trail]

So that’s just tied into your deathmark cast?

[keen spruce]

yeah i just macro in /w [priest] Juice Me!

[grizzled trail]

Nice and simple ty.

[keen spruce]

with deathmark

lol

but also like

you priest needs to know it's comin

or you're just going to be bothering them

[grim jay]

My heal just tracks my CD by herself and uses it once I Pop it

[grizzled trail]

My priest throws PI whenever which is why I haven’t made the change yet lol. I’ll beat it into his head tho

[keen spruce]

mine is a shadowpriest and basically ignores it anyways and just uses it whenever he wants

[grim jay]

I also have a troll uwu PI macro

Just to be annoying

When I feel like it

[velvet ridge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[mint kindle]

Are we still waiting until next week to craft boots?

[silver sedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grim jay]

Why exactly

[snow plinth]

lmao, logged on an alt i mailed something to accidentally

[grim jay]

[cunning needle]

so we envenom on 4cp right, what about rupture?

[snow plinth]

Also, is there a "best" or most useful buff from Dreamcarver? Beast for the leech?

[mint kindle]

I've always been told to wait before crafting gear

[twin plume]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[dawn flame]

But why?

[mint kindle]

Idk tbh

[dawn flame]

Maybe for possible nerfs

[mint kindle]

Could be

[magic fossil]

@grim jay ty mate, will improve

at least will try

[grim jay]

I mean they did their embellishment balancing and its not like there is something new

I dont think they will change anything in that side

[keen spruce]

that was last week

because there was no reason to craft them

since no content

but this week

no nerfs came through

and there's content to do

so you should craft your best stuff

[grim jay]

I only didnt craft boots first because I didnt decide on my raid spec yet

[pulsar apex]

Does Nightstalker apply to the Subterfuge 3s?

[weak sierra]

pretty sure

hence why we open with like 3 garottes in aoe

[sick eagle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[weak sierra]

otherwise we would just be using 1 and all the other garottes wouldnt be nightstalkered

[keen spruce]

yes

[weak sierra]

also we would likely want to remain in stealth during the final ticks of kingsbane if it didnt.

[pulsar apex]

ty

[weak sierra]

but we dont do that, we just rip vanish 3 seconds before

[pulsar apex]

You are confusing nightstalker with improved garrote

[weak sierra]

They both work during the subterfuge window

[ornate hamlet]

as an outlaw main, I thought assass was ezpz but im struggling HARD in M+

[mint kindle]

I've been told that this week too

[haughty flicker]

hm

[spice spire]

It is ezpz

[ornate hamlet]

maybe im not good at dot classes? my average m+ dps went for 160 to 100k when switching specs bc i had better items

[haughty flicker]

how painful will trying to kill fyrakk in a pug at 7 am on a monday morning be

[velvet ridge]

is crimson tempest reall such a low priority in M+ large pulls? like gala fall, big lust pull at start, its optimal to not crimson tempest until like your 20th GCD, after you DM KB your main target

[spice spire]

Yeah you wanna get the regen flowing

[velvet ridge]

i guess it does only last 14 secs

[pulsar apex]

yes but we open with 3 garrotes in aoe not because of nightstalker.

[ornate hamlet]

i also tried hekili because maybe i was getting the rotation wrong, but hekili feels so trash

[royal lantern]

step1: dont think "its easy even if i have no experience"

step2: stop thinking about "difficulty", its extremely subjective and just a weird circlejerk anyway, just enjoy stuff

[pulsar apex]

which is what you said above which confused me

[weak sierra]

Oh I know I was meaning that they're buffed as well. I can see the confusion, my bad

[pulsar apex]

yeah all 3 of those talents are blending into one in my head which is why im trying to break them down 😄

[weak sierra]

Aka super stealth mode

[velvet ridge]

i think it becomes easier when you have the right tools to assist you, like proper nameplates to easily tell which targets are garrote/rupture/ has your caustic spatter and KB active on

[ornate hamlet]

yeah keeping up poisons was really hard, im just running a standard plater m+ profile

[candid plover]

the hybrid wowhead build is running better with 2pc/2pc? I've been using arterial shock without any new tier buff

[pulsar apex]

yes ofc to this bit. we would have to actually stay in stealth if it were otherwise...

[ivory bay]

at how much do you guys sim?

[pulsar apex]

ty

[royal lantern]

raid st?

[ivory bay]

y

[weak sierra]

Now that would be scuffed

[velvet ridge]

i recommend coloring name plates that dont have rupture on them, and a high priotiy for your caustic/KB target, because you should not lose that target

[royal lantern]

191k with no nick of time

[ivory bay]

hmmm

[pulsar apex]

its also just made that "last 3 sec" of KB make more sense to me

[weak sierra]

What does the timestrike thing do on nick of time btw? Extra autos?

[royal lantern]

dmg proc

[ivory bay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/euUhKTCYw3UNjyhyfsRsyd do you find something weird in my sims by any chance

[ornate hamlet]

so i come out of stealth, apply garrote on all targets, rupture main target, mutilate, dance, kingsbane, deathmark, shiv? then apply dots to all? or

[weak sierra]

You wanna get envenom rolling before the dance

[velvet ridge]

rupture more targets

[ornate hamlet]

ok so rupture all targets before I mutilate and kingsbane?

well actually i would be mutilating for combo points anyway

[velvet ridge]

sorry i jumped in this mid conversation

[real stirrup]

do we rupture when Kingsbane or only when we vanish at the end with the garrote?

[spice surge]

Dont let rupture run out

And dont let envenom run out during kingsbane

[weak sierra]

I remember seeing whyspers guide saying rupture can drop off in KB and it's very very minimal dps increase to refresh, so we just don't and keep envenom going

[surreal citrus]

can't sim rn cus I took my boots off before I logged out for a crafting order

[spice surge]

Ye thats if you have to choose between refreshing rupture and having envenom up, but ideally you can think ahead and not be in that situation to begin with

[grave phoenix]

So we try to refresh rupture before we go into the kingsbane brrr?

[weak sierra]

I think rupture naturally drops in the "optimal" single target opener though right?

[steel geyser]

Kingsbane is already snapshoted by dance, you press vanish last 3 seconds cause of master assassin

And to refresh garrote

[weak sierra]

Ah right, yeah that makes sense Antok

[safe rover]

what build gonna be best for tyran next week where adds gonna get smacked by every DH and BM hunter

[velvet ridge]

man it frustrates me that the Ambush/Mutilate before SnD in the opener sometimes goes as Ambush sometimes as Mutilate, i feel like i lose a GCD sometimes from it swapping over

[weak sierra]

Why is ambush and mut swapping an issue in the opener?

[velvet ridge]

huh? ST opener? no way

[ornate hamlet]

What can I get to make the mobs glow when I don’t have garrote or rupture

[weak sierra]

Oh because of the difference in combo points?

[ornate hamlet]

Or which one I have kings and on

[velvet ridge]

after you do the rupture, im queueing Ambush, but subterfuge drops at a similar time, so the game is registering the Ambush, but then cant cast it cause no more stealth, so its just wacky

sometimes im able to get the Ambush through, but most of the time it drops

[weak sierra]

Oh funky

I've never noticed that for me

[steel geyser]

Just press mutilate

[royal lantern]

huh

[agile geode]

Timestrike stat is just flat damage right?

[royal lantern]

its a bit more complicated in what it does

but ye

it does dmg

thats all we need too know about it

it procs and does free dmg

[agile geode]

Ok ok

[velvet ridge]

you can normally only do 3 gcds in subterfuge correct? sometimes, ive been able to a 4th out

[glacial grotto]

Goddamn you guys sim a lot higher, I'm assuming 4p?

[royal lantern]

garrote->rupture->ambush

[strange python]

500 mainstat or 500 mastery , mainstat is kicking in 4times value right ?

[royal lantern]

thats 3gcds lol

[velvet ridge]

i know...

[neat horizon]

can we expect tuning this reset ? or would it only take place after the race ?

rub your globe and tell me pls

[agile wedge]

so i read through the guides as good as i could for now. still have some questions. outside of cds the rule is keep over 50% energy, do i do literally nothing, if i would drop below 50% with my action?

and the other thing is, when do i start to pool for 80%? like 5 secs before kb would be up again?

[strange python]

well for me, i pool only if i have cps up and envenom is above 1 sec

i also not have any energie problems so far so

[drifting cloud]

there is no keep over 50% energy rule

[agile wedge]

there is i think

[strange python]

this over 50% is a nice to have cause of set bonus but not nessecary

[agile wedge]

with the talent you skill

[glossy jewel]

is it actually worth it to play CT in keys with the new 4set? feels like spamming envenom is so much dmg pressing CT seems like a waste (especially in low keys)

[elder torrent]

If you think its not working or worth it

Sim it

🙂

[coral tusk]

guys,is it possible to make a macro for mutilate/ambush in 1 button?

[drifting cloud]

yes, its called default ui

it auto replaces now

[coral tusk]

oh rly,i guess i just didn't notice this

[drifting cloud]

if you mean the blindside procs

[coral tusk]

no,just in general,if i'm using vanish or just in opener,is it gonna replace it or not?

[drifting cloud]

just put ambush on your stealth bar

or well a stance macro will achieve the same thing

[agile wedge]

so this is a midfight kingsbanewindow: a) is it correct? does the 4+ cp for envenom count here? so pretend after KB->garrote i would only have 3cp. i would put another ambush in and then envenom?

[strange python]

i have ambush on the stealth bar on the same position mutilate is . so no proble.

[strange python]

no vanish at 3 sec of kingsbane window ? wh not

[agile wedge]

cause it was not rdy

[strange python]

ah

ok

i mean seems legit, i personaly try 4cp always

and i dont use garrote in this window i believe, cause my empowerd garrot is still active

i use it at the vanish one

but it depends on how lucky cp generator is

and i gues 500 mainstat is still better than 500 sec stat why do i even ask im so dumb

[winter gale]

Guys, do I garrote-ambush-rupture-muti-snd or garrote-snd-ambush-rupture in my opener?

[haughty flicker]

first one

[winter gale]

Yeah, watched some guides on utube with 2nd(older) opener

[bold stream]

aslong as you have everything up before you DM SHIV SD KB you refresh most of it anyway

[hearty reef]

I would have snapped rupture too

[dark crag]

If you place igara spears around the boss, does spatter reach them?

[hearty reef]

Oof

The way my guild is doing igira i lose spatter on them all the time

[agile wedge]

in raid, is the only talent i change the CS one when i have more than one target? iam not through it yet, but it seems like it

[hearty reef]

Yeah if there's cleave in fight you spec into spatter

[dark crag]

Played sub yesterday and forgot that it's kind of an important aoe part

[hearty reef]

Even if you have to hardswap

[agile wedge]

oki

[dark crag]

Full st, no fw on storm, no tornado

[dark token]

It usually reaches 3/4 of 6

Have ur guild do 5 spears around boss and 1 directly in center where melee stand

It reaches better

[dark crag]

Have you seen them play? That's suicide

[torn peak]

Pressing shiv on 20 target pull with bl feelsgoodman

i always keep my shiv for st rotation

but when i press i

[slim hedge]

Loving my group right now with Aug and Boomie, favourite pull has to be first massive pull in Everbloom and all of the trash leading to first boss in galakronds fall. Million DPS ez

[winter gale]

What’s with the 4cp thing ppl are mentioning?

We finish at 4+ CP somewhere?

[slim hedge]

Do you mean using finishers at 4 because of CP rng

[winter gale]

I saw just a lil bit above in chat that ppl are mentioning 4cp

I guess it’s about finishing with 4+ CP

[uneven bronze]

29 runs in no dogger sadge

[agile wedge]

inb4 lootspec outlaw 😄

[winter gale]

😂😂😂

[uneven bronze]

im playing outlaw but loot spec is sin

cant handle much more

and imma need two xdxdxd

[keen spruce]

yeah you finish on 4+ cp

[slim hedge]

It's always the last run. Trust

[keen spruce]

next one surely

[uneven bronze]

yeah a friend told me the daggers will drop today on runs 7 and 9 and he is notoriously lucky with guessing shit like that so prayge

[steel stump]

I only have 7 and with the key tagging bug I wanna kill myself

Half the time it's the other key

[slim hedge]

Trust in rngesus

[worthy igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[deft vault]

ç=^^

[uneven bronze]

if dagger is friend why doesnt it drop

[steel stump]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

[uneven bronze]

ive dropped 4 leech pants tho so yeah thats nice i guess

[steel stump]

I have 5 trinkets

[misty holly]

Game knows you getting it in vault next week. It's doing you a solid.

[steel stump]

no bis

[slim hedge]

DW DW. Only 22 runs. But I had 0 drop last season so

[steel stump]

with the key tagging bug it's horrible half the time it's morozond

[pure moth]

Every dawn i tried to pug last night had 1 to 2 rogues. Couldn't get into one

[uneven bronze]

i jsut /key when i get into the group and if its murozond i dip

[slim hedge]

I've not noticed much/any issue. Seems to be an IQ issue for key listers same as Taza in SL

[haughty flicker]

Nah I’ve seen the bug in action

[steel stump]

When you have galacrond and tag your key it tags murozond you have to change it

and people dont

[haughty flicker]

It’s annoying as fuck for sure

[uneven bronze]

tbf not everyone realizes it its an honest mistake most people just dont know about it

[steel stump]

yeah it's just an annoying bug

[slim hedge]

Guess kinda like the, make a group, promote someone else and suddenly it's normal mode difficulty

[steel stump]

tag someone else's key and now it's m0 as well

[haughty flicker]

Yup

[surreal pond]

i started to ask when invited and in 2/3 cases they dont even answer. then wrong dung and we leave

[haughty flicker]

That one got me earlier actually lmao

[slim hedge]

Multi dollar companies

[haughty flicker]

Was wondering why no tanks were in queue and it was bc it listed as m0

Unlucky

[uneven bronze]

you can also hover on the dungeon you are queueing for in the dungeon finder and see which key it is

[grim jay]

The other way around

[uneven bronze]

for instance

[surreal pond]

yea but only if the leader has the key or?

[uneven bronze]

yah

[grim jay]

No thats random

[uneven bronze]

is it?

[grim jay]

It sometimes still is muro

[uneven bronze]

welp

what do i expect from a small indie company

[grim jay]

The same thing happened with tazavesh back then no?

It didnt happen with kara atleast

[winter gale]

I only envenom at 4+ CP and only during Kingsbane, for the buff uptime?

[uneven bronze]

didnt play back in shadowlands tbf so i dunno

[desert vault]

Thinking about giving Sin a little run next week in raid, seems pretty straightforward with the rotation, takes some getting used to sitting around and doing nothing in between burst windows for sure. Is there any stuff I can marco like Dance + KB since they are always cast together it seems?

[uneven bronze]

the torghast farm was too mcuh for lil ol me xd

[winter gale]

Everything else it as usual, 5+ CP?

Gracias hermanos

[royal lantern]

no

[polar bridge]

You can macro them or you can put kingsbane in the same hot bar spot on your stealth bar so when you use shadow dance it swaps bars and you can just hit the same keybind again

[royal lantern]

idk who told you otherwhise

4+ cp for all finishers all the time

[winter gale]

Noone told me anything

[olive wagon]

I really miss ER when playing Dance raid build

[desert vault]

Oh yeah, didn't think about since you are never casting KB outside of stealth. I just have to get used to the sitting around part of Sin agian, don't think I've played it since Leigon

[winter gale]

So always and forever I use finishers on 4+ CP

It will take some time to get used to that

Same goes for AoE gameplay?

[zealous stream]

yo boys, if I get a dagger upgrade, is it better to equip it in main or off hand?

[jaunty dew]

So I see that most sims show phial of CR to be best, but personally I like my healers, what's a second best?

[haughty flicker]

highest ilvl in mainhand almost always

[jaunty dew]

Still tepid versa?

[haughty flicker]

ye

[grim jay]

If they cant deal with it they should maybe reroll

[haughty flicker]

true fuck the healers

get that dps king

[jaunty dew]

I think it's a troll phial and would much rather have survivability than an extra 1% dps 🙂

[haughty flicker]

oh its super troll yeah

[royal lantern]

troll phial

[grim jay]

Also you can just skill the decay alchi part

[royal lantern]

[haughty flicker]

but 1% is 1% lets get it

[royal lantern]

people that barely get curve calling stuff "troll" never gets old

[grim jay]

Its in no way troll

[haughty flicker]

its pretty bad

[royal lantern]

oh no, 85-90% uptime with "self dmg" that is outhealed by recup

[grim jay]

And the survivability that tepid gives you is a joke

[haughty flicker]

except its bugged so lmao

[grim jay]

Thats prolly more troll

[haughty flicker]

its not about the survivability, you're not dying as rogue either way

[grim tangle]

oh I'm dying

[haughty flicker]

but why have healer waste casts on you when they see hp low when they can use that cast on someone else

just because you want 1% more dps

[grim jay]

What Part

[haughty flicker]

recup

[grim jay]

They wont

They will need to heal you anyways

[haughty flicker]

recuperator stops working after vanish the majority of the time

[keen reef]

Is it worth using cat charge for 2p2p

[royal lantern]

thats NOT how healing works

like

not at all

please dont talk about healing when you dont know how healing works

like, dmg is constantly happening anyway

[grim jay]

You dont use single target heals the majority of the time?

[royal lantern]

healers are using aoe heals by default

so instead of theor aoe heal doing 43% overheal its 42,9%

cus you are at 34% instead of 35% after a mechanic

[grim tangle]

love making up numbers

[grim jay]

You know, sometimes examples are helpful

[royal lantern]

^

like, i recommend everyone to play a healer and tank once for a bit in dungeons/raids

understanding how they work REALLY helps

[spare crag]

You guys tried the "Bone spike Dance" Build?

[keen reef]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[supple linden]

I completely agree. Unless the damage from CR actually leads to your death, you’re actually improving your healers logs by having more effective healing. The overheal is crazy in raids

[desert vault]

I was just looking at my sims between Sub and Sin, I ran some as Sub in raid this week and was doing pretty good ST, so was curious. Sin is a good bit behind Sub for me, just a gear thing? Does Sin really jump with 2p/2p maybe?

[royal lantern]

when the CR dmg leads too your death, you where dead anyway

[stable atlas]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[haughty flicker]

this is fair, im planning on playing tank to relearn it and in the future i'll probably play some healer

i still dont think corrupting rage is worth it but i accept that I may not actually be correct

[supple linden]

I don’t think I’ve ever known that someone was using corrupting rage, it makes no difference on the raid frames. Healing just gets chucked around

Even shadow priests using shadow word death only got a little glance

[fallow acorn]

I'm a 2500 io healer and it doesn't make a difference to me

[desert vault]

also I see Internal Bleeding sims higher, but most logs are running Caustic? Just Caustic for the cleave fights and then Internal for the pure ST?

[torn atlas]

I dunno, playing mist weaver just reinforced my "dps everything" brain

[royal lantern]

almost all fights have adds

[haughty flicker]

im also basing my opinion on what my own healers have told me but my guild is only 8/9 m so its not high end by any means

[sharp grove]

guys, i have a question, do we finish on 4 cp with envenom or 5 or more (i still have last 4 piece)

[desert vault]

right, I sort of figured most fights have some adds

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha, it helps because you know what healers actually CAN do

[royal lantern]

4 or more this patch

[supple linden]

I healed that last few tiers in a CE guild, none of the healers in my group even noticed.

Don’t think we cared really

[desert vault]

just crazy with Caustic, my Sub build is simming like 14k higher than Sin, 8k higher than Outlaw. Guess I am rocking Sub for a little while until I get some weapons and stuff

[spark terrace]

with the assassination dance ST build opener, as it's always the same can it be macro'd into a cast sequence macro you just spam?

[keen reef]

do you guys use ur charge allready?

[haughty flicker]

for catalyst?

[fallow acorn]

waiting on vault

[haughty flicker]

no reason to until you know what piece you need

[sharp grove]

thats weird, because i do 4+ and i get green parses and do all deathmarks correct, wonder what could be wrong

[fallow acorn]

I did a key with a 470 heroic 4pc lock yesterday he was blastin haha I felt useless

[haughty flicker]

pi and/or skill issue

[torn atlas]

Probably better idea to actually learn the opener tbh, because it's part of your rotation every 2 minutes

[royal lantern]

its week1 parses lol

+its parses

on a spec that does a BIG chunk with 1 ability

[spark terrace]

yeh thought so, i do know it i just wanted to be lazy 😂

[sharp grove]

yea but im a trial so it kinda sucks 🫡

[fallow acorn]

hrmm next week is bursting

[royal lantern]

have fun gettimg a good parse when not all last KB ticks did a crit

[fallow acorn]

Sudden Demise POPPIN

[royal lantern]

if they look at PARSES during a trial, they are idiots lol

[grim jay]

Or when you are like 10-15 ilvl behind

[gusty mirage]

Yes, but I already had 2pc and 470 shoulders to catalyze

[torn atlas]

Oh shit. Sudden Demise gonna just pop 10 stacks at a time.

[gusty mirage]

Kind of necessary if you go into mythic week 1. If not you wait at least until first vault

[grim jay]

Yeah to get 4p

[fallow acorn]

HEALER ISSUE

[gusty mirage]

Disc priest is good, bursting a non issue

[grim jay]

The sudden demise build doesnt even work best for me tbf

[bleak ivy]

friend from a mythic raiding guild said they dont even care about parses

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

can't wait for us to both get myth track timestrike daggies on tuesday

[gusty mirage]

SURELY

[sly jetty]

Anybody here who is smart enough to update the wowanalyzer for us 10.2 assassination rogues?

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

yes

[gusty mirage]

Are you saying Topple isn’t smart enough to do it himself?

[nova kelp]

this face wigs me out, and that's saying something

[gusty mirage]

Speaking of which, monthly time to bother topple with a random ping. @main vessel

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

It’s the lack of nose man

Creepy af

[torn atlas]

It really is rather unsettling

[obtuse hollow]

What is the best build for assassination SINGLE target?

[sly jetty]

lol, just didnt know if he has time for it. or if someone else can help out. i wrote something in the wowanalyzer discord too.

[royal lantern]

ofc if somebody is perma gray all tme time for weeks it should be brought up

but like, its week1, everyone had 1-2 tries at the boss + mechanics happens + giant gear differences + mechanic assingments + rng

[fallen forge]

you use corrupting rage for parsing

[timber prairie]

Hi guys, I must be stupid or I don't get something, but 5 cp crimson tempest deals more than 5 cp rupture
How it's not in the single target rotation if so ?

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[kind forge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[fallen forge]

i use corrupting rage for my healers to parse

we are not the same

[gusty mirage]

Because CT doesn’t give energy

[keen spruce]

you know omar can't read cmon

[nova kelp]

lol

[timber prairie]

CT could still be better than envenom at least, no ? even without the energy procs ?

[bleak ivy]

he can only write not read

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

Considering all our damage is kingsbane

And envenom gives us more poison procs

No it isn’t

[royal lantern]

ct does only good dmg against multiple enemys

[subtle karma]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[timber prairie]

Hum ok ok, thanks

[spice spire]

No initial from Ct either

[royal lantern]

the entire point of the +20% for each enemy

YOOOOOOOO

THERE IS A RAINBOW

[nova kelp]

so uh, what's everyone getting in their vaults though? I think if I'm lucky I might get a socket maybe

[torn atlas]

Garbage probably

[nocturne imp]

!wa

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[keen spruce]

I'm gonna get unlucky and have to decide btween a myth track branch and a myth track tiemstrike daggie

and the decision is going to pain me

[grim jay]

I chose to get nick from vault

[haughty flicker]

oh yeah so unlucky

[nova kelp]

there's like this small part of me that's like "pffft nick of time 480 bruh" and then the rest of me beats it the fuck up

[grim jay]

480 from vault?

[keen spruce]

y not 483

[royal lantern]

i have the adress of every single RH user, and will beat them up irl if they get nick in vault

[haughty flicker]

nicholas will be mine

[nova kelp]

fuck

now I'm going to get a nick

[grim jay]

Its nichole fulltime

[nova kelp]

and get beaten up by Tryan

[keen spruce]

how you gonna beat me up

if i have a dagger

[royal lantern]

with a gun

knife in a gun fight

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

lmao

[nova kelp]

OUTLAW ROGUE FOUND

[thorny pond]

beat him off*

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/police-cops-sirens-gif-5801437

[gusty mirage]

You take dagger easily

[thorny pond]

You take dagger, if it's there twice, you take it again

[grim jay]

No

[gusty mirage]

MH dps >>>>>>> 6ilvl to a trinket

Even if it’s as good as branch

[grim jay]

Only if nothing else is an upgrade would you take it again

[sharp viper]

Can I quote you on your reset day?

[thorny pond]

Branch from 470 to 483 was 2k SIM

[haughty flicker]

shmeeps gonna be taking tokens

[gusty mirage]

True

That’ll show us

[thorny pond]

take the tokens to put a socket on your S2 gear

impossible

[wide sand]

Heyo, i'm a new sin player, and curious how is best to deal with small adds like on Fyrakk? Spread ruptures for energy and just focus big adds (when there is a prio target)

[gusty mirage]

@thorny pond nymue mythic is assington city btw

You’re gonna love it

[grim jay]

I can show you something else

[gusty mirage]

Bro?

[main vessel]

Hi bb

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

[winter gale]

In opener sequence I use both shivs (before and during KB) and then I charge ‘em for 1 min KB?

[keen spruce]

yep

[dark token]

You don't rupture small adds on fyrak

[obsidian cedar]

I feel like I dont do good DPS in Assa

[dark token]

Focus big collossi and deathmark em to cleave into small adds

[grim jay]

You will always want to have shiv/s for kb and if you can fit one in without obstructing that you do it

[main vessel]

Ye, just been very busy between BlizzCon/work/COVID/actually playing the game for a bit. I have a todo list a mile long from Whispyr.

[winter gale]

Ill just use em both and then charge for 2nd Kingsbane

[keen spruce]

[dark token]

In general you shouldn't spread ruptures to adds that are short lived unless

1. you have scent of blood talented or
2. you have sudden demise talented

Long lived stuff it's good to spread on tho

[wide sand]

So what do i do? 😄

[azure shoal]

[dark token]

On fyrak in particular I 1 minute cooldown the first collossi and 2 minute cooldown the second one

[keen spruce]

any bloomers

[vale mortar]

On Fyrakk it's good if your tank can bring that big infernal to the little adds so you can hit them with caustic spatter

[dark token]

Caustic spatter will cleave poison dmg with it

[warped pilot]

branch + sandglass or crab

[dark token]

Ueah

And just fok envenom big add

[wide sand]

and just ignore small adds outside of cleave dam

[dark token]

They will die quick

Yeah

[wide sand]

coolio, ty guys

[dark token]

Sin shouldn't directly target adds that live less than 10s imo unless you have specific cleave talents or it's super critical

[kindred breach]

Talking about this do you guys try to snap low cp rupture on dying mobs for energy regen?

Or is it a bad thing to do?

[dark token]

Not worth unless u have sudden demise

[kindred breach]

Ok thanks

cause sometimes i feel really energy starved at the end of big packs

[dark token]

I never really feel energy starved in dungeons tbh

So many bleeds out

[kindred breach]

Feel like snapping one or two ruptures on dying mobs is helping a lot

[dark token]

I usually CT as mobs are dying even outside of pandemic to extend the duration and get a bigger sudden demise proc

Not rupture

[kindred breach]

Yeah on like 80% of the dung it feels like you said but on some pull i'm dying for energy

maybe i'm not spreading enough

[dark token]

I always maintain like 9 garrotes and 6 rupture

[azure shoal]

[dark token]

Unless outside of cds

[royal lantern]

same for me in raids

like, actually pooling time is VERY low and infreqent for me in raids

[kindred breach]

thats my numbers too... how much haste do you play mate? just trying to figure out

[dark token]

Yeah usually you are doing mechs which recovers energy

Or have PI and energy is fake

Only before my 1 minute KB can I sometimes be dry

I like to send 2 teas on that

[olive wagon]

What makes assassination so good in the raid dps meters? Is is the 4 set? because pre-tier set i do way more damage as outlaw then assas. while my gear is even assassination loot. Or am I just a bad sin rogue 😛 ?

[dark token]

I'm beating most 4 set DPS as sin with old tier

[kindred breach]

We are main target for both PI and Augment

It could explain this

While outlaw are not

[wide sand]

it can crank really high during dmg amps, there are a few this tier

[dark token]

It's stacking externals and caustic spatter solving our raid aoe issue

As well as high dmg profile for burst dmg yes

[olive wagon]

hmm i think im a bad sin player then =p because my DPS as outlaw on the raid dummy is about 140k steady and as Sin it's like 110k (with ofcourse much higher peaks for both)

[dark token]

Here's igira (I'm 2nd place rogue), everyone above the ret pala has 4p except me (I'm using last tier 4p)

Sin fucking cranks dude

[craggy basin]

is there a sim string for the timeway trinkets?

[olive wagon]

and thats the dance build?

[dark token]

Yes

Idk why no dance is even suggested

It should be deleted

[whole herald]

fact

[dark token]

It's not hard compared to previous sin rotations

[olive wagon]

yeah what i thought as well =p

[dark token]

And feels quite fun to play especially on aoe with IC

[thorny pond]

#wow-general

[olive wagon]

I feel like i have even time to eat a cookie in between rotation as sin XD where as outlaw i feel sweaty all the time haha

[dark token]

I thought the exang rotation was much harder, and the sepsis rotation was also harder

[whole herald]

outlaw is a headache to play imo

literal adhd intensifies

[fallow acorn]

I hate it

[dark token]

I'm doing similar dmg to outlaw in m+ and more in raid

So I'm never playing that shit spec

[lethal widget]

I swear outlaw is easier than sin haha

[dark token]

Causes aids to my hands in 1 hr of play

[storm forum]

Classic @keen spruce pinging me at 3 am.

[fallow acorn]

it might be easier but sin is more satisfying

[dark token]

And sin and sub roughly share stats

And weaps

[keen spruce]

I didn't know you were in Ducc's guild

[dark token]

I have 483 dagger but only 447 outlaw weap

[whole herald]

def easier to get in but once you got a core understanding outaw is more rng so its "harder"

[dark token]

Gg

[lethal widget]

I too have 483 dagger and no outlaw weap haha

[fallow acorn]

I don't know what that means 😮

[plush ravine]

Rng as class identity is shit change my mind

[storm forum]

Wait you know ducc? I thought zirc was your in.

[fallow acorn]

I'm being bullied, I can feel it

[storm forum]

I think he misclicked the reply button

[lethal widget]

Shmeeps is in my old guild xD

[whole herald]

procs make speccs fun but playing outlaw is like being drunk and playing the lottery

[keen spruce]

no lol. i met ducc end of season 1 when they played for helmet check

and i met snug through ducc

[plush ravine]

While dancing on a razor edge

[keen spruce]

idk who tf zirc is

which is why i found it funny that the picture was posted

[lethal widget]

how long you been in skyhold?

[keen spruce]

last tier

[next dust]

do i upgrade to max or not yet

[regal crest]

Do yall take tricks or black jack for m+?

[keen spruce]

clown and asapsyn quit so i've been the only rogue

[lethal widget]

blackjack

[keen spruce]

since then

[lethal widget]

clown used to be enhance

[viral spire]

Blackjack

[keen spruce]

clown plays everything

[lethal widget]

yee

[storm forum]

Zirc was the guy that posted the sheet. But yeah those two started trialing this tier.

[keen spruce]

he was doin monk keys most of last season

[lethal widget]

ye and black only plays veng

[keen spruce]

bllack is a lord

[lethal widget]

wyrmo plays arms even if it scraps the barrel

[keen spruce]

handsome tank man

[fallen forge]

it exists

it actually exists

[keen spruce]

ducc and snug are fking hilarioius

[storm forum]

LETS GOOOOOO

[fallen forge]

there was another rogue who put in 53 runs

didnt get it

[keen spruce]

unhinged af

[fallen forge]

i felt so bad for him

[keen spruce]

but very funny

[lethal widget]

black could unironically do rwf

[keen spruce]

he is our trump card against all terrorists in our raid

cuz he does about as much as dps player

[storm forum]

Oh God are they going to get more unhinged?

[royal lantern]

well, you know

Sooner or later, everyone sees the Time Knife

[keen spruce]

so that lets one person completely shit the bed

and we'll be okay

[lethal widget]

haha

does eve still raid?

[keen spruce]

idk has ducc started talking about clown girls

and how she wants one to put her in a cage

[storm forum]

....

[keen spruce]

don't tell her i said that

[storm forum]

I'm failing her trial

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

And it's all your fault

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

The greatest screenshot of all time