#assassination

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wind estuary
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ask question about poison , cause riot , leave

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cya

feral mason
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since when are gifs less demanding than screenshots

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this uni wifi is dogshit

gusty mirage
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Hope you’re having a wonderful day king @midnight mist monkeyhug

feral mason
midnight mist
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hey guys, I was checking the sims and it seems that outlaw is the better spec, how come everyone is playing sin then, should I swap off of outlaw? I might have decided to learn the wrong spec, any advice is welcomed.

flint tusk
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probably because they're cached with how much people use them xD

uncut echo
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Where and when bestie

feral mason
gusty mirage
marble hemlock
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tbf thats council, but still

bleak ivy
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go at it boys

feral mason
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yo guys i need your thoughts on something

flint tusk
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no

midnight mist
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alright guys, thanks for all the answers, I will take all of your feedback in consideration and figure something out

gusty mirage
feral mason
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would you agree that like 90% of bm players is men over 30

midnight mist
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mybe I can make a mixed spec that both have guns and bleeds

feral mason
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my raid leader got very upset at calling bm “retirement home spec”

flint tusk
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hmm i don't think that's the case honestly

gusty mirage
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Also please refer to zac and Mr. zaco extraordinaire when talking to my adopted son thanks @marble hemlock

strange python
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ngl, i was messing with BM ealier today and i find it complicated af

lofty junco
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btw what key level could i comfortably go with that?

strange python
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while their priority list seems simple - nothing like "makes sense" or "feels right"

flint tusk
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bruh

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no wonder you can't get kingsbane

uncut echo
gusty mirage
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That’s how you play BM

uncut echo
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Idk your comfortablility

bleak ivy
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that is outrageuous ngl

orchid ore
uncut echo
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I went into 18s on my warrior which is objectively worse

feral mason
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was playing assa in keys yesterday and its so weird man

uncut echo
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On patch day

midnight mist
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@gusty mirage hope you are having a good day aswell mister oxi, have you started raiding ?

feral mason
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you feel like you are doing nothing on bosses but still do 110k

gusty mirage
feral mason
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while standing still

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i dont get it

midnight mist
gusty mirage
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Praying for 3/9 or 4/9 on Sunday

midnight mist
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im still on splits, we are slow

cunning basin
bleak ivy
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2/9 on normal?

midnight mist
safe wigeon
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is there any weak aura for witherbark branch?

gusty mirage
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Volcross dies for sure this week tho

pallid kestrel
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Not that it really matters that much since im still gonna play assass, but how much were the bugs contributing to damage for assass?

feral mason
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Hardstuck hc nymue after first raid night

midnight mist
strange python
gusty mirage
feral mason
uncut echo
flint tusk
uncut echo
feral mason
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3 dps players under the tank in a CE guild

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crazy

thorn fjord
gusty mirage
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Wild

feral mason
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i hard griefed yesterday too man

uncut echo
feral mason
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I kept sending my second kb on the boss

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3 seconds before he phased

gusty mirage
uncut echo
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Same TheVoices

gusty mirage
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Guys, it’s hype. Today is leg day

feral mason
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kept happening for whatever reason

uncut echo
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I had to taunt volcoross on our kill

feral mason
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Assa is good for my wrists though

uncut echo
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I was doing 171k

thorn fjord
gusty mirage
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Today we get to deadlift

feral mason
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they healing

cunning basin
pallid kestrel
strange python
gusty mirage
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I died

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And got to watch the last 2 minutes

orchid ore
feral mason
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nah dont ship me up in that

thorn fjord
cunning basin
feral mason
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i fixed it just dont have timers on my screen anymore

flint tusk
uncut echo
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Smile

cunning basin
thorn fjord
gusty mirage
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I’m so toxic lmfao

uncut echo
gusty mirage
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Oh I was watching dw

flint tusk
uncut echo
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HAHAHAHA

gusty mirage
bleak ivy
uncut echo
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Happens.

gusty mirage
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Yeah like sometimes you strafe into the breath on normal fyrakk

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For no reason

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It happens ok?

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Leave me alone

cunning basin
thorn fjord
uncut echo
cunning basin
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It's rough out here sometimes

gusty mirage
uncut echo
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Redeemed

thorn fjord
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CHAD

gusty mirage
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You didn’t have to do that shit boss

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That’s a win

cunning basin
abstract jacinth
cunning basin
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I made myself a snack

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It was sick

thorn fjord
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or lucky

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Depends how you see it

cunning basin
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Mushroom stamped

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
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Do you need a friend?

thorn fjord
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Im just tired

abstract jacinth
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You guys have friends?

flint tusk
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of life

thorn fjord
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And its date night tonight so i've got a looooong day ahead of me

feral mason
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just saw my old aotc guild only get 6/9 normal first raid

cunning basin
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I have depression

feral mason
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they had 4 0 parses on first boss

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on normal

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how

thorn fjord
bleak ivy
cunning basin
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I think my old guild died last tier a week or two after I left

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RIP

flint tusk
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the fact you're questioning how shows you don't understand just how shit a lot of the player base actually are

outer cairn
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man i was doing well on council last night using ic. wiped and then they were so spread out on our kill that it was just butt

feral mason
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isnt 0 parse literally that there isnt a single player worse than you

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or does it round down from 0.4% or smth

arctic venture
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Which parts of the new set Should I take first? to be 2 and 4 bonus?

outer cairn
arctic venture
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Head and what else?

abstract jacinth
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Anyone been pushing 20’s yet? Did one last night and holy balls the amount of shit that 1 shot me

limber lion
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Oh we're flexing parses???

outer cairn
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dude i'm just trying to start doing 16s at this point so i can get my crests

cunning basin
thorn fjord
outer cairn
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pugs are fucking butt

gusty mirage
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@thorn fjord do I start roiding and become NA’s lorgok?

royal lantern
thorn fjord
cunning basin
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Mainly just flexing my 0 parse

abstract jacinth
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I parse 0, this is like golf and lowest number wins right?

limber lion
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Beat that idiots

gusty mirage
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I’m asking Cev

feral mason
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nah but genuinely

limber lion
cunning basin
gusty mirage
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@limber lion do I juice and become the NA lorgok?

thorn fjord
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Think of the children

thorn fjord
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Your future children

limber lion
feral mason
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does anyone know

arctic venture
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Guys, which new tier 2 parts I should take first?

earnest remnant
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@keen spruce Timestrike modcheck

outer cairn
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the muffin man

gusty mirage
outer cairn
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no

bleak ivy
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surely?

gusty mirage
limber lion
earnest remnant
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5 runs

outer cairn
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fuck. i've ran fall a few times and gotten like legs, chest, some other shit, but no dagger yet

earnest remnant
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2 daggers

limber lion
thorn fjord
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Jesus

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only 5?

gusty mirage
feral mason
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i got dagger yday too

thorn fjord
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Wtf

feral mason
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still running dungeons for trinket though

cunning basin
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I've run 20 keys and gotten 2 pieces of gear

outer cairn
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i have a 17 fall to do. praying

bleak ivy
thorn fjord
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I got 1 dagger on normal track tho 😦

outer cairn
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and then one in vault

cunning basin
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But one is crab

feral mason
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421 boon still equipped

earnest remnant
gusty mirage
earnest remnant
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gotta turn on that stream tonight when you do m+

gusty mirage
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Lmao

earnest remnant
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and ill watch and it will drop 100%

thorn fjord
bleak ivy
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nah im convinced Cen aint play the game

gusty mirage
feral mason
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stealthi is that raid trinket actually good

gusty mirage
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Yes

feral mason
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with the 10% reproc

gusty mirage
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It is

outer cairn
feral mason
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or was that a meme

limber lion
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Who's Cen

thorn fjord
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Resto main

gusty mirage
feral mason
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saw some people saying you should proc cheat death on pull to trigger that ashes trinket

gusty mirage
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Oh fuck I gotta go to the gym

feral mason
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but no clue how it works tbh

gusty mirage
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Deuces

thorn fjord
gusty mirage
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GET HYPE

thorn fjord
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time for our second cup of JOE

bleak ivy
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im going to the gym to hit legs in 15 minutes mf

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it is deppresing

flint tusk
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naa what's more depressing it getting yourself hyped up for leg day to get to the gym and find it's closed....

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so tomorrow gotta go through that mental process again....

bleak ivy
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My dad benches 200kg and im barely benching 90kg

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I wanna kms

limber lion
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Damn doesn't take much to get you over the edge

glossy imp
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rise and grind gamers

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today nick of time drops

earnest remnant
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oxi, sim modcheck?

flint tusk
bleak ivy
olive otter
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Hey all! didnt play since bfa, is the +20 key now like the +15 back then?

limber lion
olive otter
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or is it harder

bleak ivy
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in eastern europe

limber lion
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Yeah that's #7 bozo

bleak ivy
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Oh probably 1 in europe

limber lion
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I'm half Lithuanian

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Yeh 1 in europe

bleak ivy
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were 2nd biggest drunks and 1 on suicide rate

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tells alot

storm forum
thorn fjord
storm forum
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So like a 20 is what an 18 was

dark token
haughty flicker
storm forum
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That's just how it feels to me

bleak ivy
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or what

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how r u half Lithuanian

thorn fjord
limber lion
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I'm Finnish/Lithuanian

olive otter
bleak ivy
earnest remnant
spice spire
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I didn’t know you were Lithuanian

bleak ivy
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I am

limber lion
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Just half, dad is Lithuanian

bleak ivy
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my discord name is a Lithuanian name xd

limber lion
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But I don't talk the language at all

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Haven't seen my dad in years

bleak ivy
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with ships

limber lion
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Nice

bleak ivy
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I wanna visit

storm forum
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Oh

storm forum
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Wait you're right that is easier

earnest remnant
thorn fjord
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My mean girls gif bombed

midnight mist
earnest remnant
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ive done 5 runs of the dungeon i think

midnight mist
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cool

thorn fjord
midnight mist
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I will take the 483

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thanks

storm forum
thorn fjord
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I get all the homies daggers

olive otter
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i was always hovering around that lvl, 17 18 in bfa

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i did one +20 but it was kinda boosted tbh

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played assa back then even tho outlaw was better

thorn fjord
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17-18 in bfa were much harder than the same levels now

jaunty ginkgo
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How do people tend to track uptime of garrote, rupture, CT in AoE?

storm forum
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Yeah if you were doing 17s and 18s in bfa, you should be good to do 20s now.

icy acorn
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for pure st the smolderon signet is bis right?

olive otter
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thats nice to hear, just need to get back into the game a bit

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they changed assa alot since then

outer cairn
storm forum
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I was also a Sin enjoyer back then.

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Although I mostly pushed on my priest

terse orchid
jaunty ginkgo
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while obviously having weak auras too

bleak ivy
terse orchid
lucid rain
terse orchid
feral mason
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my legs are juiced so i love deadlift

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trex arms though

bleak ivy
bleak ivy
lucid rain
bleak ivy
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Seems like sin players 90% are gym enjoyers

thorn fjord
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<- Not this one

terse orchid
lucid rain
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those don't have to be mutually exclusive dracthyr_kek

bleak ivy
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Lmao

swift magnet
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I have noticed that JPC/Speed (and maybe others) go Gar > Rupt in opener instead of Gar > Ambush > Rupt. Is this better? why do they do that?

slate crown
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probably just to get things rolling faster

lucid rain
slate crown
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well you can also refresh during vanish to max

lucid rain
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so there's no point to 6 point rupture in your first few gcds

swift magnet
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ok so the guide should be updated?

slate crown
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Not necessarily

lucid rain
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oh, I thought that's what the guide said

willow kite
lucid rain
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whoops

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yeah mb mb, I got confused

slate crown
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Just because JPC does it doesn't meant it's max sim dps, best for Whispyr to come to the conclusion he sees best for that, which may not align with what JPC is doing

swift magnet
lucid rain
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disregard

lethal widget
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scent of blood stops at 5 targets

slate crown
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correct

lethal widget
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so you would want that out

bleak ivy
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Any1 got 4p yet?

feral mason
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stealthi

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fuck stealthi luck all my homies hate stealthi luck

swift magnet
hexed willow
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What’s tier

slate crown
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I got 0 piece

feral mason
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i got 3p rn

hexed willow
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Same! Togetherness (to 0)

bleak ivy
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I got 1p

feral mason
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1 of them still token

bleak ivy
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W

thorn fjord
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I got 4p

willow kite
feral mason
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so hopefully i get legs/hands/chest from vault

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Next week

slate crown
bleak ivy
slate crown
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In a ton of sim testing

feral mason
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otherwise i just get token from fyrakk

willow kite
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Due to fight mechanics

feral mason
slate crown
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the differences are extremely minor

light mirage
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Does anyone have a macro that will use ambush if available instead of mutilate

terse orchid
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But what are we here for if not for majoring in the minors

snow shadow
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Still trying to figure out a main for 10.2 and feral is feeling a little complicated for a new raid. How cozy is the assa rotation feeling?

slate crown
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The only difference is convenience or speed. If a 3 cp rupture at the start gets things rolling better faster or more reliably that doesn't mean it's doing more damage, but it may be easier to execute, and that's fine.

swift magnet
slate crown
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One gcd can matter

terse orchid
obsidian cedar
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I am having so much trouble getting dps up in Assa is 2 or 4 p eice needed for Assa to be best?

feral mason
slate crown
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For trying to line up an add wave with spatter

feral mason
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sub you gotta think a bit more

willow kite
feral mason
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outlaw kills wrists though

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so assa kinda vibe

slate crown
bleak ivy
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Outlaw mains are rats

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Just trynna stir some shit up tbh dont mind me

lucid rain
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🐀

tame tangle
remote oak
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🐀

tame tangle
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ty

bleak ivy
thorn fjord
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Remember the moth memes?

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Peperidge farm remembers

hoary scroll
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
obsidian cedar
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im 443 and first boss on normal did 138k but then averaged between 94k to 110k on the rest Is that good or am I trying to think to much.

hoary scroll
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!ambush

marble hemlock
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nerf outlaw, buff assa

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clearly

bleak ivy
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What about balance

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Clearly doesnt refer to its name

marble hemlock
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thats not a real class

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good on one boss this tier

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they can have it

bleak ivy
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Atleast havoc got shit on

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Thats what we like to see

feral mason
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wtf its called balance but it is not balanced? 🤯

bleak ivy
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Mind blown

terse orchid
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I'm just happy dk is in the dumpster

hoary scroll
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Can i macro mutilate and ambush as assa or is it dumb?

terse orchid
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#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt] Ambush; Mutilate

slate crown
bleak ivy
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I thought everyone is playing blindside

obsidian cedar
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Can someone tell me what this is refering to Pooling

slate crown
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Not if you're using the Hybrid build

feral mason
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wtf its called assassination but it doesnt oneshot the boss from behind?? 🥱

obsidian cedar
thorn fjord
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I need trinkets

marble hemlock
thorn fjord
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Didnt you post it earlier

marble hemlock
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i did not

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you have 4set

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imagine being that lucky

slate crown
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imagine

thorn fjord
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Ohh it was stealthi

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my mistake

marble hemlock
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full normal/hc clear with 30 people, 0 zenith basegcat

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11 venerated tho

thorn fjord
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0 Zenith is very unfortunate

marble hemlock
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i mean its kinda w/e

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can still get 4set with 2 curios+mark of mastery+catalyst

royal lantern
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you are not alone mate

marble hemlock
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ye idk our one run was cursed

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cuz we legit got

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like 2dreadful, 1mystic, 0 zenith, 11 venerated

royal lantern
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we got double daggers on 2nd boss

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like

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no signet, only 1 ashes on normal

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cursed loot overall

strange python
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lol i've done everything on 10-12 and i can't even get an invite to a 10

thorn fjord
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And we got 3 tank trinkets on Council

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or w/e his name is

chrome mirage
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My raid lead has funneled all 4 of our zenith drops to our Aug lizzars

thorn fjord
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I meant Council

chrome mirage
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And we've seen every melee trinket drop on normal, all went to underperformers.

thorn fjord
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They need gear to perform better duh

snow shadow
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Are there any CDs that can/should be macro'd together?

earnest remnant
terse orchid
crimson crest
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I need daggers in both hands for sin right?

thorn fjord
chrome mirage
snow shadow
rose harness
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#showtooltip kingsbane
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane

crimson crest
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alright gotta farm 2 then, thanks

royal lantern
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!dagger

rose harness
# snow shadow ty jelly

np, just know that showdance is off the gcd -- so kingsbane won't go off if you press it before the gcd is ready

snow shadow
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Ah okay good to know. thanks!

split cipher
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!sims

prisma monolithBOT
fierce sigil
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Hey guys!!
ive read that assa is going to play haste as his best stat or even with mastery and crit.. so i wanna focus on crit haste? or we want to have crit mastery and haste at an even amount?

chrome mirage
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Ayo, can we get a kingsbane emoji with like some uwu face or ahegao face on it

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Asking for a friend

thorn fjord
slate crown
thorn fjord
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Just trust in your sims

fierce sigil
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wow that is crazy! ty

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
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and i got fed gear

marble hemlock
slate crown
warped lily
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Guys right now Assasination is op because other specs does not have tier set yet?

slim hamlet
thorn fjord
subtle tundra
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thanks

warped lily
marble hemlock
thorn fjord
grim jay
subtle tundra
thorn fjord
warped lily
slim hamlet
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it might be

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who knows

chrome mirage
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Assa with 4pc is going to crank

marble hemlock
thorn fjord
grim jay
slim hamlet
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outlaw with 4pc is gonna crank too

marble hemlock
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So be happy :<

subtle tundra
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i am happy, pookie bear

thorn fjord
subtle tundra
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its good

marble hemlock
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Well I'm leaving now so

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Enjoy

slate crown
midnight mist
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this must be fake there is no way

green apex
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Got my 3rd set of gloves out of fall yesterday:)

From 12 m+ runs I am up: 3 gloves, 1 ring (heavy Crit vers)

Believe bb believe luck's gonna turn gonna get a 487 nick in vault 🙏

swift magnet
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what do you think about Ashes+Branch? (like Ashes for dm and Branch for 2nd KB)

Which trinket would you pair with Ashes?

slate crown
grim jay
eternal ferry
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So i tested some m+ now, assa feels fine and all, but does anybody else noticed that our cooldowns dont do much of a difference in aoe? I mean yeah its still way more dps with dance and kb, but its not thaaaat much? If you take any other class for comparison, cooldowns kind of feel way more impactful in aoe

But maybe my keys (max 13 yet) are still too low, trash maybe dying too fast.

slate crown
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Sim yourself, it may be either way based on your gear, if you are already mastery heavy in your gear branches may be lower value for you

grim jay
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and play it correctly

slate crown
shy axle
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which youtube video from whysp explains the pooling in st again? Thought i knew it but cannot find it right now

thorn fjord
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In spatter we trust

slate crown
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Like doing 19/20s, picking a prio target and going hard easily burst up to 500k

slate crown
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depending on pull size

thorn fjord
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Got to use it for the first time last night

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Was pretty cool

shy axle
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thank you

slate crown
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It slaps so hard

thorn fjord
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Yeah it’s sick

earnest remnant
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hardest ive AoE bursted is 1.6mil so far

eternal ferry
still creek
near valley
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Caustic is real biggly

thorn fjord
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I hope they leave spatter alone

oak tangle
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does anyone else use their witherbark branch like me?

slate crown
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Also my biggest keys were like 19 Rise and did not have huge clumps of packs

thorn fjord
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Sick graphic 🤣

slate crown
thorn fjord
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That’s a Tauren skull surely

slate crown
jaunty warren
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!up

slate crown
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Like I said last night, I've gotten into the practice of literally not looking fo rthe orbs, I know where they spawn at the start and can grab at least one without looking, the other two I try to intuit their motion and just remember their path because they will always come to me

swift magnet
# grim jay whats so surprising

well I though they would fit nicely, with branch every other KB but I was mistaken. Do the sim even try to make it happen like I said though?

slate crown
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It isn't perfect, but it feels like it's at least a reliable way to manage them when, frankly, you can't see shit onthe ground and the orbs are so pale

lucid rain
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no zenith from LFR

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sadge

grim tangle
lucid rain
spring locust
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I'm currently experimenting with sin since outlaw feels kinda bad without new tier, are we supposed to kingsbane during DM or after it to benefit from the S2 4pc bonus?

rotund oak
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portals because u dont use portals in valdraken anymore

lucid rain
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during dm

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dm doubles your deadly poison applications

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juices up kingsbane as a result

rotund oak
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so kingsbane is something like

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gargoyle for UDK

thorn fjord
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Kind of

dark token
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we beat the dh

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(fall)

thorn fjord
bleak ivy
slate crown
still creek
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what build are y'all running in 19/20 keys?

slate crown
rotund oak
primal terrace
slate crown
bleak ivy
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@dark token how do I make my details appear like that

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Profile pls

thorn fjord
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@karmic ridge its in the options menu

bleak ivy
thorn fjord
eternal heath
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might be dumb, but can I make the border for this sparkly or something?

bleak ivy
eternal heath
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Looks like IC has one like that, but not sure how to add it

bleak ivy
eternal heath
slate crown
earnest remnant
slate crown
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That's the "Auto-cast Shine" glow

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So you can add one if you want one to the KB bar

thorn fjord
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Options -> Bars:Text

eternal heath
slate crown
bleak ivy
eternal heath
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I am super inexperienced with WA outside of just installing them

slate crown
sweet fog
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guys what crafted item should i go for

spring locust
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would you guys recommend arterial or hybrid build for a starter assasin player?

slate crown
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They basically play the same

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I prefer the arterial +BS build because it has blindside which I like more but they're very similar

eternal heath
slate crown
eternal heath
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Although when I am viewing this, it doesn't show the tick marks for abilities

slate crown
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It won't show them in the right place when you have Weakauras open because it dynamically places them when you cast KB

spring locust
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ok, i guess in terms of ilvl i could be doing "higher" keys, but I haven't played in a while so gonna start low to learn so i guess arterial is better there?

slate crown
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are you saying the tick marks don't show up when you actually use the ability?

eternal heath
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Havent used the ability yet, was just expecting to see it in the WA menu

daring comet
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
eternal heath
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I gotta get working on my rotation better though

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best run so far in like an 11 or 13 galakrond's

distant plinth
bleak spoke
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sudden demise fixes that problem

glossy imp
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yea kind of but not really

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because you spatter a target, dm it, put kb on it and poof it dies

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rip all your poision dmg

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and burst

eternal heath
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Yeah like the slimes before blight of galakrond

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But I am also not using CT often enough I dont think

glossy imp
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so you have to know which target can live or hold ig

bleak spoke
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this is why i play ib PepeLa

eternal heath
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But I am also only running like 10-13s right now

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Because I dont wanna sandbag a higher key but also wanna get my dagger and trinket lol

bleak ivy
uneven bronze
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how do you guys go abut this rotation the opener looks like soo much my puny brain cannot ahndle that stuff

earnest remnant
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im doing +20s and stuff doesent live my KB in those most of the time

glossy imp
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so you don't think about it

eternal heath
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Yeah in Galakrond's, I feel like there are 2 mobs out of all the trash pulls I can use KB on

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So my usage is super low

bleak spoke
lucid rain
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in a key that low, you should focus more on maximizing sudden demise damage than going for kb/spatter

eternal heath
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Also hate the entire trash area before 2nd boss

lucid rain
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things won't survive kb long enough to make it any good

glossy imp
bleak spoke
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with IB

eternal heath
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Yeah I try to spread garrote/rupture everywhere and get CT out before they die

bleak spoke
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i dont think i played particularly well either

glossy imp
coral sierra
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Can you still craft S2 gear? 447

uneven bronze
bleak spoke
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like when you play sin i feel like its much more apparent when you've made a rotational error in aoe

earnest remnant
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+20 fall of gala

bleak spoke
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like the punish feels instant

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i don't doubt spatter is better the higher you go

slate crown
lucid rain
bleak spoke
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it's just like, in low keys it's easy to just do like a bfa-esque ggg ct shiv fok rupture and then all the mobs die to sudden demise

upbeat pebble
bleak spoke
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except you have IC now

devout prism
bleak spoke
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so it's even better

earnest remnant
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full send

glossy imp
lucid rain
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alright jw

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I've been feinting the big-ass circle but it feels like it does nothing

bleak spoke
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like i don't think anything in less than like a 17 or 18's survived a kingsbane to the end

slate crown
# slim hamlet wait why is this better?

Because it's 40% damage on the last tick. Idn Whispyr said it was better as well, I didn't sim it. you aren't pushing anything more than the last tick so you still get the most ramping damage on it from DM

empty hinge
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do we get a curio token for 2k score

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or aotc

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like last tier

thorn fjord
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Yeah

slim hamlet
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I still don't understand why waiting is better

subtle tundra
slim hamlet
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Maybe dent brain

subtle tundra
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(i have aug)

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i didnt choose the aug

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i hate aug

earnest remnant
lucid rain
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do you guys /focus a big mob before a pull so you have an easy-to-click target once the pull gets going?

subtle tundra
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my everblooms were aug-less...

subtle tundra
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and i had pumpers

slow needle
bleak spoke
eternal heath
devout prism
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yeah would have had to convert them from fragments beforehand though

lucid rain
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stonks

slim hamlet
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U guys are fucking cheating

devout prism
slim hamlet
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I still only have 6 wrists and 3 legs to show for my effort

crimson crest
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when simming for patchwerk, how long should it be? Is the default 5 mins good?

dark token
earnest remnant
bleak spoke
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wait 4p looks really good here

lucid rain
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damn 4p doing work

devout prism
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ty

strange python
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Garrote goes like LetsSussyGo

thorn fjord
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@slim hamlet

slim hamlet
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heroic?

thorn fjord
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yeah

dark token
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here was my 20 fall

slim hamlet
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Mine not as good for sure

dark token
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(252k)

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i dont have new tier tho

eternal heath
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Finally have enough wyrms to get my MH Nick of Time to 476

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OH still gonna cost wyrms wont it?

fallow acorn
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10 FALL runs, 0 loot

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christ.

slim hamlet
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U won round "heroic"

hexed willow
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How do I use KB in low level keys when everything dies before I’m halfway through 😦

lucid rain
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don't worry about kb/spatter

dark token
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yeah

lucid rain
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arterial precision build is good for this

dark token
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you use AP to buff ur bleeds

dark token
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giga bleed in ur dance instead of focusing on kb

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i am executing mobs from like

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1.5m

crimson crest
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when simming for patchwerk, how long should it be? Is the default 5 mins good? or does it not matter too much?

slim hamlet
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Sudden demise crispy 10mil on small pull in lover keys

dark token
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max sudden demise hit

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2.7m

thorn fjord
bleak spoke
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go for sudden demise high scores

slim hamlet
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Yea I had a 2.8 mil yesterday too

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insane

hexed willow
lucid rain
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yep

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simple as heck

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beeg dam

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and crimson tempest

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that spell fucks

bleak spoke
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honestly if there isn't a boss coming up just use dance and vanish to spread more garrotes

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like who cares

slim hamlet
hexed willow
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Hmm I’ll try the arterial precision build for my smol keys

slim pebble
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I'm doing +10s because that's all I can get into and the mobs just falling over is amazing

bleak spoke
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arterial is so good in those spots

lucid rain
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yeah like there's a certain point where you "lose" casts of kb because you're waiting for a boss or mini boss

lucid rain
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in low keys

slim pebble
hexed willow
bleak spoke
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tbh you can just send it anyway unless the key is so so low that like it won't live a minute

hexed willow
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The 17s hurt though, I can feel the lack of gear

bleak spoke
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because you'll always end up being able to press only one kb in a boss fight in a low key

hexed willow
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Murozond’s rise fucking sucks

hardy dagger
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dunno even in 20 keys your kb target just dies in packs

bleak spoke
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it doesn't necessarily really matter when you do it, honestly if you have arterial, better late than early

eternal heath
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Our guild did a full clear of normal and first boss heroic. I may need to try to pug some heroic this weekend for vault slots

hardy dagger
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and you lose the lst ticks...

bleak spoke
bleak ivy
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My trinkets and daggers are ass jdk how ppl got full bis already xd

eternal heath
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They are degens and have done 50 keys already

hardy dagger
bleak spoke
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actual factual 50m sanguine

hardy dagger
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sanguine is ass tbh

bleak spoke
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this is like the least aggressive version of sang ever

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and it's still dog

hardy dagger
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yup

dark token
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i only liked sin in 19/20 over other specs

hardy dagger
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prot pala hates it aswell

bleak spoke
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anyone miss being fucking oneshot when you pass a pool

dark token
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i feel outlaw/sub will do more dmg below 20

lucid rain
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I'm just glad I can walk through sanguine a bit without exploding

dark token
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but its still fun

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you just need to offset ur cd from other dps

river cipher
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Having 24% leech is insane

bleak ivy
dark token
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dont use deathmark on first pack

hardy dagger
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packs just explode

bleak ivy
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@dark token could you check pm

hexed willow
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Sanguine sucks in waycrest

lucid rain
agile osprey
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waycrest just sucks. tight hallways and shit pulls from every direction

bleak spoke
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it can be outplayed pretty easily especilaly nowadays with the short timer on puddles but like

lucid rain
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my 20 everbloom from last night

agile osprey
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fuck new etch

bleak spoke
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etch is dog

slate crown
# slim hamlet I still don't understand why waiting is better

Idn man, point is it's 40% damage on our literal biggest hit (final KB tick), it's losing some LD enhancing damage from DM sure but 40% is a lot. Personally I've not even been doing the waiting because I don't remember to and it's unintuitive, it's just a thing you can do that's technically better for now until next tier set

bleak spoke
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the new etch is so so so dog

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you used to let etch channel for free because it didn't scale with key level

hexed willow
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Not even sure how you’re supposed to do etch

bleak spoke
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so you would get an m0 etch while the tank didn't get auto'd

bleak ivy
devout prism
# hexed willow And that etch

it's a tank dungeon- lots of tanks fight in the halls for no reason as though there's not giant wide open spaces you can pull every hallway pack back into

lucid rain
bleak spoke
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cloak/meld/vanish/whatever

hexed willow
devout prism
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woops did the @ on the wrong person lol

lucid rain
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I think I fucked up a couple kingsbanes

agile osprey
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If you wanna make it uniteruptable, fine. Just make it so you have to LoS it or something

lucid rain
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it shouldn't be lower than spatter

bleak spoke
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you can also do the good ol' constant stutter step on a corner to interrupt the cast at a huge dps loss in a high key probably

dark token
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idk how ur guys sudden demise so low

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its like 8-10% of my dam most keys

agile osprey
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They prob arent refreshing bleeds

lucid rain
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I could've played better that run honestly

hardy dagger
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aye my sudden is also kinda low

earnest remnant
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i dont really play around it

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i just go

hardy dagger
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but fuck playing around it

dark token
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i dont really either but it just tends to be higher

hexed willow
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Tyrannical everbloom is going to be difficult

hardy dagger
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i try to play around spatter more

bleak spoke
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it feels really profitable energy wise to give a long rupture to a dying mob

spark scaffold
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Hey does anyone know if Ashes simms with the dire proc or only with the on-use?

dark token
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^^ i do stuff like this tho

bleak spoke
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that's probably the nicest bit

dark token
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ct on dying targets

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refresh it

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boom

earnest remnant
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its usually aorund 5-6% of my

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dmg

uneven bronze
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Do you use exclusively fan of knives as a geneartor unless you need to mutilate for caustic spatter?

bleak spoke
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this week in particular you can use demise to execute mobs that are stuck in sang

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if it's really fucked

dark token
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not really, in 3t i mut a lot or spend blindside procs

bleak spoke
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like you can just hit the vanish/dance on it

slim hamlet
dark token
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or use garrotes a lot

bleak spoke
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and you will actually kill it thru sang

dark token
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do sin sims atm take into account the 2p bug

earnest remnant
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this is what ive been playing alot

dark token
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or are they ignoring it

uneven bronze
agile osprey
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Oh are we taking blindside/rush in keys now?

grave geode
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How much would you be setback by moving to sin from outlaw with full vers stack gear? Considering giving sin a try this tier but the stat weight disparity Feelsbad.

bleak spoke
dark token
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try the blindside build @earnest remnant it sims higher ST and aoe for me

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and feels really good

bleak spoke
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is your shiv dmg actually that much better

devout prism
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where's that tiny toxic blade enjoyer

raw oasis
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Everbloom mage boss "fire" damage is not cloakable

hardy dagger
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i have been playing the hybrid build alot seems to the most

raw oasis
hardy dagger
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do

raw oasis
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wtf is "spore image"

river cipher
earnest remnant
dark token
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the async stacks dropping

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new 2p

devout prism
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stealthi/frozensoviet you guys have any vods?

earnest remnant
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pretty sure thats fixed

dark token
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realz said they were working on fixing it

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but its not fixed ingame yet

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i think

slate crown
slim hamlet
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99% sure its fixed

thorn fjord
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dark token
slim hamlet
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Didn't know that was what we were talking about

slate crown
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Yeah it's only an optimization for the last tier set

undone flame
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how often did this happen i wonder

slim hamlet
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gnarlroot and last boss everbloom

chrome mirage
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Pins

slim hamlet
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pretty much

bleak spoke
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only on amp bosses

earnest remnant
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id say liar

hardy dagger
dark token
earnest remnant
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just having food break

slim hamlet
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Prove it

slim pebble
earnest remnant
undone flame
strange python
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standing on target dummys for 5 minutes and wondering the dmg .... until i looked in the buff bar and saw , OH theres no poison applied ._.

dark token
bleak spoke
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i never understand how it's not immediately obvious you don't have poisons

devout prism
bleak spoke
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like you literally have no energy ever

rotund oak
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u gonna make me fat

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😄

bleak spoke
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wtf 2 pizzas POG

slim hamlet
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man now I want pizza

earnest remnant
rotund oak
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the man streamed like

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10 hours

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or close to that yday

dark token
slim hamlet
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It wasn't in notes

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dont ask me why

deft vault
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this m+ season is hella cursed. im at 1 piece in 32 dungeon

slim hamlet
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??

jaunty warren
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Did I imagine that there was a blizzard implemented change so that mutilate became ambush as needed? ….could have sworn I read something like that here

devout prism
# earnest remnant

this might be cringe to ask but can you get the streamer WA/addon that shows your button presses

slim hamlet
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Just loot it Dieb

deft vault
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im not dropping anything lol

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i dropped 1 piece in 32 dungeon

devout prism
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ahh didn't see it in your raid vods

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but ty

earnest remnant
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next to details

devout prism
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oh nvm those vods are from like 2 months ago lol

split veldt
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any good Sin macros?

bleak ivy
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I'm dropping gold starege

chrome mirage
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Any other Nick of Time on first run enjoyers?

devout prism
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but yeah thanks for sharing, will be helpful

split veldt
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more like on run 20 and no nichalos enjoyer

strange python
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i can work with that Bunny_Drool

slim hamlet
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What is that alien ship ui

devout prism
chrome mirage
bleak ivy
ebon quest
bleak spoke
hexed willow
bleak ivy
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Hp

strange python
bleak ivy
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?

strange python
devout prism
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damn bro you got a hotas + pedal setup to run that rogue or what

tame tangle
strange python
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the big one is HP ye

hexed willow
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Below the yellow bar

bleak spoke
dark token
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more accurate for dungeons especially for sin with restealth

ebon quest
strange python
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thanks

bleak spoke
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cuz you would never really ambush in this 6t patchwerk scenario right

bleak spoke
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so this is the "worst case" for blindside

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wherein you don't ever use it

strange python
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i am just used to redo it every week OwO maybe next week it looks complete diffrewnt xD

bleak spoke
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so it's effectively a completely dead talent

hexed willow
bleak ivy
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@strange python so your UI is a jet Pilot setup

strange python
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yes

bleak spoke
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brother i resubbed the night before the patch, until my last everbloom i was running an hc kurog trinket with those pages

shell lodge
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do you guys ever have issues with ambush/mutilate at the end of subterfuge? sometimes my input gets ignored and i have to press again

bleak spoke
strange python
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look look

bleak ivy
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Not that bad ngl

strange python
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Roast me Kappa , but im good with it

ebon quest
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you should share that on wago so nerd like me can steal interesting ideas and concepts from it to integrate into our own setup 😄

strange python
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O_O

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i can 😮

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where to do ?

dark token
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That green bar so big

bleak ivy
strange python
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ye

bleak spoke
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combo points and energy being the same color would fry me

dark token
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Not as bad as the vertical timer bar WA

strange python
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i quickly forget about my HP and forget to press the hp vial :3

past forum
strange python
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O___O

zealous niche
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how bad is crit/vers for sin if I mainly play outlaw?

bleak spoke
bleak ivy
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Get more

strange python
odd flax
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any working claustic splater WAs fellas?

left tulip
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yooo any assassination OGs that can tell me why the hell i cant sustain above 90k in my dance build? <3<3

shell lodge
ebon quest
# strange python where to do ?

right click on the group you have everything saved in and click export. You'll get a string of code to copy and then go to wago.io and click the import button....then paste that string......at least i think that's how you upload them to the site

past forum
slate crown
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
hexed willow