#assassination
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Hope you’re having a wonderful day king @midnight mist 

hey guys, I was checking the sims and it seems that outlaw is the better spec, how come everyone is playing sin then, should I swap off of outlaw? I might have decided to learn the wrong spec, any advice is welcomed.
probably because they're cached with how much people use them xD
Where and when bestie
yeah outlaw is better go play it
aug is better, delete your rogue
I think whatever you decide to play you’ll do great on, xoxo
Back to quarantine
outlaw superior for the chinese
tbf thats council, but still
go at it boys
yo guys i need your thoughts on something
no
alright guys, thanks for all the answers, I will take all of your feedback in consideration and figure something out
You’re a council
would you agree that like 90% of bm players is men over 30
mybe I can make a mixed spec that both have guns and bleeds
ret mains are
my raid leader got very upset at calling bm “retirement home spec”
hmm i don't think that's the case honestly
Also please refer to zac and Mr. zaco extraordinaire when talking to my adopted son thanks @marble hemlock
ngl, i was messing with BM ealier today and i find it complicated af
btw what key level could i comfortably go with that?
while their priority list seems simple - nothing like "makes sense" or "feels right"
Subjective to skill level.
Cause you’re supposed to stand in mechanics and die and then say you didn’t have time to move
That’s how you play BM
Idk your comfortablility
that is outrageuous ngl
10-15's depending on how comfortable you want to be.
I went into 18s on my warrior which is objectively worse
was playing assa in keys yesterday and its so weird man
On patch day
@gusty mirage hope you are having a good day aswell mister oxi, have you started raiding ?
you feel like you are doing nothing on bosses but still do 110k
Bro warrior is actually hot ass garbage lmao
we 2/9 gaming
yo big
Praying for 3/9 or 4/9 on Sunday
im still on splits, we are slow

2/9 on normal?

is there any weak aura for witherbark branch?
Volcross dies for sure this week tho
Not that it really matters that much since im still gonna play assass, but how much were the bugs contributing to damage for assass?
big
What bugs
on a boss like last of everbloom - a lot - but it's no change in most places.
That boss is awful with a bloated raid
ye we 30 manning rn
YUUUUUP
honestly so glad to hear this. we've got some pepega raiders who join us for normal and heroic then flake.
it's so painful that people in their 30-50's don't understand SOAK THE FKING GREEN POOLS!

or if you're colorblind... Those little orbs fucking suck
Damn, even I beat the tanks never having played Ret before
Wild
i hard griefed yesterday too man
Ye you're a good gamer.
My parses suggest otherwise
Same 
kept happening for whatever reason
I had to taunt volcoross on our kill
Assa is good for my wrists though
I was doing 171k
lets see that third leg 
Today we get to deadlift
they healing
You'll never beat my 0 so don't even try
Sanguine blades was doing double damage
See this is what i do - and people just think I "can't get kingsbane"
It's not a matter of skill lol...I just wanted to play something with less room to f up
I got close on fyrak

I died
And got to watch the last 2 minutes
anyone, any age can get shit wrong not just 30-50, lol
nah dont ship me up in that
Best pov tbh
On vulnerabilities ye. So like everbloom and shit it's probs tough but it's still just sanguine blades
i fixed it just dont have timers on my screen anymore
yeh but also doing this
the bottom DH and monk are tanks
https://i.imgur.com/kU4oe9i.png
and no they didn't die
My healers forgot I existed in gnarlroot and council
420 
BRO OMNI RAN ME OVER
Oh I was watching dw
you're the definition of it
HAHAHAHA

bro tanked his whole average
Happens.
Yeah like sometimes you strafe into the breath on normal fyrakk
For no reason
It happens ok?
Leave me alone
orange or grey no inbetwee n
It's rough out here sometimes
Wdym that 0 parse is the best parse there
Redeemed
CHAD
That's on god
I definitely didn’t take a tentacle to the face on le snake.. couldn’t be me…

You get penised
Unlucky
Mushroom stamped
Bro you down bad or something?
Do you need a friend?
Im just tired
You guys have friends?
of life
And its date night tonight so i've got a looooong day ahead of me
just saw my old aotc guild only get 6/9 normal first raid
I have depression
safe to say we prob all do in here brother
rogue side effect
the fact you're questioning how shows you don't understand just how shit a lot of the player base actually are
man i was doing well on council last night using ic. wiped and then they were so spread out on our kill that it was just butt
isnt 0 parse literally that there isnt a single player worse than you
or does it round down from 0.4% or smth
Which parts of the new set Should I take first? to be 2 and 4 bonus?
Second that
Head and what else?
Anyone been pushing 20’s yet? Did one last night and holy balls the amount of shit that 1 shot me
Oh we're flexing parses???
dude i'm just trying to start doing 16s at this point so i can get my crests
I hope it means that there's nobody worse, bc at least then I'd be #1 at being bad
Think they were memeing parses
pugs are fucking butt
@thorn fjord do I start roiding and become NA’s lorgok?
week1 parses 
Nah save your nuttsack and dont roid
Mainly just flexing my 0 parse
I parse 0, this is like golf and lowest number wins right?
I’m asking Cev
nah but genuinely

Based
@limber lion do I juice and become the NA lorgok?
Think of the children
Is it this?
Your future children
Fuck it send it
does anyone know
Guys, which new tier 2 parts I should take first?
@keen spruce Timestrike modcheck
the muffin man

no
Why do you hate me
Times that by 0
5 runs
fuck. i've ran fall a few times and gotten like legs, chest, some other shit, but no dagger yet
2 daggers

You’re banned kid
i got dagger yday too
Wtf
still running dungeons for trinket though
I've run 20 keys and gotten 2 pieces of gear
i have a 17 fall to do. praying
Surely gladiator then
I got 1 dagger on normal track tho 😦
and then one in vault
But one is crab
streamer luck
I still have a 441 oh
gotta turn on that stream tonight when you do m+
Lmao
and ill watch and it will drop 100%
Same tho
nah im convinced Cen aint play the game
Gonna stream to my 1 viewer for all the luck
stealthi is that raid trinket actually good
Yes
with the 10% reproc
It is
breathe in my general direction and give me some of that luck too por favor?
or was that a meme
Who's Cen
Resto main
Wowhead’s D4 lead
saw some people saying you should proc cheat death on pull to trigger that ashes trinket
Oh fuck I gotta go to the gym
but no clue how it works tbh
Deuces
LEG DAY
naa what's more depressing it getting yourself hyped up for leg day to get to the gym and find it's closed....
so tomorrow gotta go through that mental process again....
Damn doesn't take much to get you over the edge
oxi, sim modcheck?
he got sold them scuffed roids. so he only gets the rage none of the gains
I live in a country with highest suicide rate
Hey all! didnt play since bfa, is the +20 key now like the +15 back then?
Lesotho?
or is it harder
Yeah that's #7 bozo
Oh probably 1 in europe
I think keys are like +2 or +3 harder now.
Fuuu
So like a 20 is what an 18 was
4pc hack?
sounds like you just have to drink more
That's just how it feels to me
Are you american tho?
or what
how r u half Lithuanian
They seem easier tbh
okay thanks!
Oh thats cool
i have 4 set yes
I didn’t know you were Lithuanian
I am
Just half, dad is Lithuanian
my discord name is a Lithuanian name xd
My brother works in Finland in lapland or w/e
with ships
Nice
I wanna visit
Maybe we got better? I feel like a 22 now is what a 20 used to be
Oh
?
Wait you're right that is easier

can I get one tho, I dont need 2 for outlaw just the one
ive done 5 runs of the dungeon i think
cool
Come to my office
Sorry I meant 2 or 3 levels easier. So a 20 now was what an 18 used to be.
I get all the homies daggers
ohhhh okay
i was always hovering around that lvl, 17 18 in bfa
i did one +20 but it was kinda boosted tbh
played assa back then even tho outlaw was better
17-18 in bfa were much harder than the same levels now
How do people tend to track uptime of garrote, rupture, CT in AoE?
Yeah if you were doing 17s and 18s in bfa, you should be good to do 20s now.
for pure st the smolderon signet is bis right?
thats nice to hear, just need to get back into the game a bit
they changed assa alot since then
If serious, you could look up Juggernaut Method for a training program. Pretty effective for powerlifters.
a lot of tabtargeting if i'm lazy
Trying to track with plater debuffs atm for the above + caustic splatter but it gets very chaotic quickly
while obviously having weak auras too
I was told to do 4x6reps for strenght on bench with higher weights than usual
Without proper programming you're not gonna get anywhere once you've passed beginner level lifts
deadlift is the best of all the compound movements
If you can't do cleans, sure
I mean my dad is the one teaching Me he competed as a strongman and was in special forces I think ill be fine with his teaching xd
Never tried it tbh
let me rephrase then, I love deadlifting
Seems like sin players 90% are gym enjoyers
<- Not this one
Used to be only masochists liked sin
those don't have to be mutually exclusive 
Lmao
I have noticed that JPC/Speed (and maybe others) go Gar > Rupt in opener instead of Gar > Ambush > Rupt. Is this better? why do they do that?
probably just to get things rolling faster
Idk I do that too
because you're refreshing rupture to max during dance
well you can also refresh during vanish to max
so there's no point to 6 point rupture in your first few gcds
ok so the guide should be updated?
Not necessarily
oh, I thought that's what the guide said
Not necessarily - the guide specifically gets a longer emp rupture because it doesn't rupture during SD
Just because JPC does it doesn't meant it's max sim dps, best for Whispyr to come to the conclusion he sees best for that, which may not align with what JPC is doing
to not have to refresh it during KB maybe?
disregard
scent of blood stops at 5 targets
correct
so you would want that out
Any1 got 4p yet?
well he was not the only one doing it that why I find this weird
What’s tier
I got 0 piece
i got 3p rn
Same! Togetherness (to 0)
I got 1p
1 of them still token
W
I got 4p
It could just be an accelerated opener
Also keep in mind, much of the time these GCd-by-GCD differences in play are worth like +/- 100 dps
4p nuggets
In a ton of sim testing
otherwise i just get token from fyrakk
Due to fight mechanics

the differences are extremely minor
Does anyone have a macro that will use ambush if available instead of mutilate
But what are we here for if not for majoring in the minors
Still trying to figure out a main for 10.2 and feral is feeling a little complicated for a new raid. How cozy is the assa rotation feeling?
The only difference is convenience or speed. If a 3 cp rupture at the start gets things rolling better faster or more reliably that doesn't mean it's doing more damage, but it may be easier to execute, and that's fine.
accelerated by one gcd though
One gcd can matter
I think the only way is to use a modifier, game won't play itself for you
I am having so much trouble getting dps up in Assa is 2 or 4 p eice needed for Assa to be best?
for me equally chill / mentally demanding as outlaw
For trying to line up an add wave with spatter
sub you gotta think a bit more
If that's the last tick of KB y'know
No not even close, you can do quite well without the new tier. It certainly helps but I'm able to crush with almost all last tier gear
🐀
give me cheese
🐀
ty
Like a moth to a flame
!wa
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im 443 and first boss on normal did 138k but then averaged between 94k to 110k on the rest Is that good or am I trying to think to much.
!ambush
wtf its called balance but it is not balanced? 🤯
Mind blown
I'm just happy dk is in the dumpster
Can i macro mutilate and ambush as assa or is it dumb?
Yeah, you can use a modifier keybind
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt] Ambush; Mutilate
You only would want this to pivot between the two on stealth/dance. You can't (and don't need to) for Blindside
I thought everyone is playing blindside
Can someone tell me what this is refering to Pooling
Not if you're using the Hybrid build
wtf its called assassination but it doesnt oneshot the boss from behind?? 🥱
Short and simple :)
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ty
@earnest remnant my sim check is sadder than yours https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9ypxtHZpC4g8qG2oYUS9A5
I need trinkets
how do you know what mine is?
Didnt you post it earlier
imagine
0 Zenith is very unfortunate
we did full normal and dropped 2 zenith pieces, full hc except fyraak and 0
you are not alone mate
ye idk our one run was cursed
cuz we legit got
like 2dreadful, 1mystic, 0 zenith, 11 venerated
we got double daggers on 2nd boss
like

no signet, only 1 ashes on normal
cursed loot overall
lol i've done everything on 10-12 and i can't even get an invite to a 10
We got double dagger too =/
And we got 3 tank trinkets on Council
or w/e his name is
I meant Council
They need gear to perform better duh
Are there any CDs that can/should be macro'd together?

SD/KB afaik
I need daggers in both hands for sin right?
Sitting almost 30k higher than me 😦

Do you have that macro by chance?
Yes
#showtooltip kingsbane
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane
ty jelly
alright gotta farm 2 then, thanks
!dagger
np, just know that showdance is off the gcd -- so kingsbane won't go off if you press it before the gcd is ready
Ah okay good to know. thanks!
!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
Hey guys!!
ive read that assa is going to play haste as his best stat or even with mastery and crit.. so i wanna focus on crit haste? or we want to have crit mastery and haste at an even amount?
Ayo, can we get a kingsbane emoji with like some uwu face or ahegao face on it
Asking for a friend
All stats are basically created equal for sin
This is our stat balancing for assassination: #assassination message
Meaning, we are playing any stats we can find. Everything is basically even
Just trust in your sims
wow that is crazy! ty
you simming 20k more than me says something about society
Hrmmmm 
and i got fed gear
That society values him more than you?
I now sim for 191k

(JK I'm not an artist I can't make emojis nor do I have discord powers sorry)
Guys right now Assasination is op because other specs does not have tier set yet?
u were 160k yesterday?
Once I update my trinkets I should be looking better
i will run my car into a tree at 150km an hour
thanks
in other words outlaw will be better that assa when everybody have all tier set?
Do you own a car that can go that fast?
He deserves it more than us
branch did a bit of work. but also 483 weapon and 4p
keep coping buddy
yes dude, takes like 3 working days to get there but it does
Hoping to get my second nick and possibly hour glass today
Im geninuly asking
Assa with 4pc is going to crank
Well, you both sim way more than me still
Eh it won’t
hope you do. I still didnt get a single nick thus far 
outlaw with 4pc is gonna crank too
So be happy :<
i am happy, pookie bear
I’m happy you’re here with us
its good

I was just pulling Fuu's visual, idn I thought it looked nice 
this must be fake there is no way
Got my 3rd set of gloves out of fall yesterday:)
From 12 m+ runs I am up: 3 gloves, 1 ring (heavy Crit vers)
Believe bb believe luck's gonna turn gonna get a 487 nick in vault 🙏
what do you think about Ashes+Branch? (like Ashes for dm and Branch for 2nd KB)
Which trinket would you pair with Ashes?
No double on use for us
You should take any other passive trinket if you have ashes. If you have branches and ashes, you need to find another passive and probably use branch, but if you cba to deal with the orbs, ashes is good too
Branch > Ashes really?
whats so surprising
So i tested some m+ now, assa feels fine and all, but does anybody else noticed that our cooldowns dont do much of a difference in aoe? I mean yeah its still way more dps with dance and kb, but its not thaaaat much? If you take any other class for comparison, cooldowns kind of feel way more impactful in aoe
But maybe my keys (max 13 yet) are still too low, trash maybe dying too fast.
Sim yourself, it may be either way based on your gear, if you are already mastery heavy in your gear branches may be lower value for you
they do. you just need some higher keys to fully take advantage
and play it correctly
Yeah I promise this is just a consequence of you doing 13s. When things live the entirety of your KB/DM, you do insane cleave with spatter
which youtube video from whysp explains the pooling in st again? Thought i knew it but cannot find it right now
In spatter we trust
Like doing 19/20s, picking a prio target and going hard easily burst up to 500k
depending on pull size
thank you
It slaps so hard
Yeah it’s sick
hardest ive AoE bursted is 1.6mil so far
Thats what i guessed, thanks, ill try pushing my key and keep testing. Im still making many mistakes in the rotation anyway, still need practice
what build?
Caustic is real biggly
I hope they leave spatter alone
Also my biggest keys were like 19 Rise and did not have huge clumps of packs
Sick graphic 🤣
artist
That’s a Tauren skull surely
And kind of, I often will just go straight to 3, and let 2/1 drift towards me if I need to, really depends how hectic things are
!up
Like I said last night, I've gotten into the practice of literally not looking fo rthe orbs, I know where they spawn at the start and can grab at least one without looking, the other two I try to intuit their motion and just remember their path because they will always come to me
well I though they would fit nicely, with branch every other KB but I was mistaken. Do the sim even try to make it happen like I said though?
It isn't perfect, but it feels like it's at least a reliable way to manage them when, frankly, you can't see shit onthe ground and the orbs are so pale
damn you guys doing 19 already?
I'm currently experimenting with sin since outlaw feels kinda bad without new tier, are we supposed to kingsbane during DM or after it to benefit from the S2 4pc bonus?
portals because u dont use portals in valdraken anymore
during dm
dm doubles your deadly poison applications
juices up kingsbane as a result
Kind of

Drop details profile
There is an optimization you can do where you delay your KB slightly within your DM
what build are y'all running in 19/20 keys?
But it will fall out of practice once you get new tier. Basically you just do your setup prep, then Env => DM -> Shiv -> (Wait a half GCD) SD / Kingsbane (together but in that order) -> Continue on normal KB rotation
basicly u smashed him,not just win
can you drop a quick sim, cuz I'm doing nowhere near that and wondering if it's just my gear ;D
I'm using Shock BS build from the pins
@karmic ridge its in the options menu
thanks!
Do you know how to set that up through details options?
Just the class color stuff?
might be dumb, but can I make the border for this sparkly or something?
Nah like the font idk
Looks like IC has one like that, but not sure how to add it
Wide bars
Oh
Yes, that's a glow, the IC bar uses a glow when you have Imp Garrote still up
BMQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsRSkkIBAAAAAAItkItkAAAAAAAtWSCSgkkSKBJRSkkEJRpViEA
Why the half gcd delay?
Ah, have to Add Glow at the bottom, thanks!
This is only for the Season 2 4pc, it pushes your final tick of KB into the 40% poison damage amp
Bet thanks mate
I am super inexperienced with WA outside of just installing them
Yup! You can use Conditions to make it show when you want, or you can just make it always glow
guys what crafted item should i go for
Ah yes makes sense thanks
would you guys recommend arterial or hybrid build for a starter assasin player?
Honestly
They basically play the same
I prefer the arterial +BS build because it has blindside which I like more but they're very similar
Yeah I am just bad at making sure I utilize KB properly, so need to make it more visible
All good, let me know if you have any questions or trouble with the bar (or the pack in general)
Although when I am viewing this, it doesn't show the tick marks for abilities
It won't show them in the right place when you have Weakauras open because it dynamically places them when you cast KB
ok, i guess in terms of ilvl i could be doing "higher" keys, but I haven't played in a while so gonna start low to learn so i guess arterial is better there?
are you saying the tick marks don't show up when you actually use the ability?
Ah that makes sense
Havent used the ability yet, was just expecting to see it in the WA menu
!wa
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I gotta get working on my rotation better though
best run so far in like an 11 or 13 galakrond's
Mobs die before you aoe ramp so its kinda sad
sudden demise fixes that problem
yea kind of but not really
because you spatter a target, dm it, put kb on it and poof it dies
rip all your poision dmg
and burst
Yeah like the slimes before blight of galakrond
But I am also not using CT often enough I dont think
so you have to know which target can live or hold ig
this is why i play ib 
But I am also only running like 10-13s right now
Because I dont wanna sandbag a higher key but also wanna get my dagger and trinket lol
NP BM hunter topped that with playing using one hand
how do you guys go abut this rotation the opener looks like soo much my puny brain cannot ahndle that stuff
im doing +20s and stuff doesent live my KB in those most of the time
hit it on a dummy till your hands move faster than your brain does
so you don't think about it
Yeah in Galakrond's, I feel like there are 2 mobs out of all the trash pulls I can use KB on
So my usage is super low
in a key that low, you should focus more on maximizing sudden demise damage than going for kb/spatter
Also hate the entire trash area before 2nd boss
things won't survive kb long enough to make it any good
and this is w/o spatter?
with IB
Yeah I try to spread garrote/rupture everywhere and get CT out before they die
i dont think i played particularly well either

Can you still craft S2 gear? 447
i cant even begin to memorize it it looks insane when i just look at the guide or watch whispyr's guide its lik holy fuck that looks too hard
huh
like when you play sin i feel like its much more apparent when you've made a rotational error in aoe
+20 fall of gala
wait why is this better?
yah
do you pull the big guy solo at 2nd boss platform?
it's just like, in low keys it's easy to just do like a bfa-esque ggg ct shiv fok rupture and then all the mobs die to sudden demise
Im on the same boat. Except no ring 😦
except you have IC now
no because last season crests don't exist anymore, you can craft with shadowflame sparks but nothing to upgrade them with
so it's even better
we dont do anything solo
full send
yea that makes sense, spatter pumps if the mobs don't die, but if they do its such a chore to manage
like i don't think anything in less than like a 17 or 18's survived a kingsbane to the end
Because it's 40% damage on the last tick. Idn Whispyr said it was better as well, I didn't sim it. you aren't pushing anything more than the last tick so you still get the most ramping damage on it from DM
Yeah
I still don't understand why waiting is better
i did a 320k brh earlier, makes me feel stronk
Maybe dent brain
410k in everbloom
do you guys /focus a big mob before a pull so you have an easy-to-click target once the pull gets going?
my everblooms were aug-less...
and i had pumpers
You can if you didn't vendor the crests.
idk you should always focus whatever you're trying to kick
Stealthi relax
yeah would have had to convert them from fragments beforehand though
stonks
U guys are fucking cheating
can I see damage breakdown?
I still only have 6 wrists and 3 legs to show for my effort
when simming for patchwerk, how long should it be? Is the default 5 mins good?
wait 4p looks really good here
damn 4p doing work
ty
Garrote goes like 
@slim hamlet
heroic?
yeah
here was my 20 fall
Mine not as good for sure
Finally have enough wyrms to get my MH Nick of Time to 476
OH still gonna cost wyrms wont it?
Didn't have new tier or trinkets but did cheat with PI on last 3
U won round "heroic"
How do I use KB in low level keys when everything dies before I’m halfway through 😦
focus on maximizing sudden demise damage
don't worry about kb/spatter
yeah
arterial precision build is good for this
you use AP to buff ur bleeds
U cry
giga bleed in ur dance instead of focusing on kb
i am executing mobs from like
1.5m
when simming for patchwerk, how long should it be? Is the default 5 mins good? or does it not matter too much?
My trinkets still suck
go for sudden demise high scores
Isn’t that just garrote/rupture on all mobs?
honestly if there isn't a boss coming up just use dance and vanish to spread more garrotes
like who cares
Just got 2pc I'll get u next fights! 
Hmm I’ll try the arterial precision build for my smol keys
I'm doing +10s because that's all I can get into and the mobs just falling over is amazing
arterial is so good in those spots
yeah like there's a certain point where you "lose" casts of kb because you're waiting for a boss or mini boss
Very worth it
in low keys
It felt 100% better in the keys I did yesterday
Yeah 10s have felt like a complete joke
tbh you can just send it anyway unless the key is so so low that like it won't live a minute
The 17s hurt though, I can feel the lack of gear
because you'll always end up being able to press only one kb in a boss fight in a low key
Murozond’s rise fucking sucks
dunno even in 20 keys your kb target just dies in packs
it doesn't necessarily really matter when you do it, honestly if you have arterial, better late than early
Our guild did a full clear of normal and first boss heroic. I may need to try to pug some heroic this weekend for vault slots
and you lose the lst ticks...
yeh only cases where it doesn't happen is sanguine fiasco
My trinkets and daggers are ass jdk how ppl got full bis already xd
They are degens and have done 50 keys already
aye i mean idek just play outlaw in lower keys ig
https://i.imgur.com/8q8Lh4D.png wehatepugtanks
actual factual 50m sanguine
sanguine is ass tbh
yup
i only liked sin in 19/20 over other specs
prot pala hates it aswell
anyone miss being fucking oneshot when you pass a pool
i feel outlaw/sub will do more dmg below 20
I'm just glad I can walk through sanguine a bit without exploding
Having 24% leech is insane
Sang outheals my healer
dont use deathmark on first pack
depends on group ofc but if you have 3 giga blsters
packs just explode
@dark token could you check pm
Sanguine sucks in waycrest
waycrest just sucks. tight hallways and shit pulls from every direction
it can be outplayed pretty easily especilaly nowadays with the short timer on puddles but like
my 20 everbloom from last night
And that etch
fuck new etch
etch is dog
Idn man, point is it's 40% damage on our literal biggest hit (final KB tick), it's losing some LD enhancing damage from DM sure but 40% is a lot. Personally I've not even been doing the waiting because I don't remember to and it's unintuitive, it's just a thing you can do that's technically better for now until next tier set
the new etch is so so so dog
you used to let etch channel for free because it didn't scale with key level
Not even sure how you’re supposed to do etch
so you would get an m0 etch while the tank didn't get auto'd
Can u show ur dmg breakdown
it's a tank dungeon- lots of tanks fight in the halls for no reason as though there's not giant wide open spaces you can pull every hallway pack back into
cloak/meld/vanish/whatever
True but the caster mobs chain casting in sanguine doesn’t help
woops did the @ on the wrong person lol
I think I fucked up a couple kingsbanes
If you wanna make it uniteruptable, fine. Just make it so you have to LoS it or something
it shouldn't be lower than spatter
you can also do the good ol' constant stutter step on a corner to interrupt the cast at a huge dps loss in a high key probably
They prob arent refreshing bleeds
I could've played better that run honestly
aye my sudden is also kinda low
but fuck playing around it
i dont really either but it just tends to be higher
Tyrannical everbloom is going to be difficult
i try to play around spatter more
it feels really profitable energy wise to give a long rupture to a dying mob
Hey does anyone know if Ashes simms with the dire proc or only with the on-use?
^^ i do stuff like this tho
that's probably the nicest bit
Do you use exclusively fan of knives as a geneartor unless you need to mutilate for caustic spatter?
this week in particular you can use demise to execute mobs that are stuck in sang
if it's really fucked
not really, in 3t i mut a lot or spend blindside procs
like you can just hit the vanish/dance on it
But how do you gain that 40% dmg by waiting half a sec?
or use garrotes a lot
and you will actually kill it thru sang
do sin sims atm take into account the 2p bug
this is what ive been playing alot
or are they ignoring it
in which case do you fan then? and garrotes only in dance/vanish no?
Oh are we taking blindside/rush in keys now?
How much would you be setback by moving to sin from outlaw with full vers stack gear? Considering giving sin a try this tier but the stat weight disparity Feelsbad.
why ttb over blindside
try the blindside build @earnest remnant it sims higher ST and aoe for me
and feels really good
is your shiv dmg actually that much better
where's that tiny toxic blade enjoyer
Everbloom mage boss "fire" damage is not cloakable
i have been playing the hybrid build alot seems to the most
do
wtf is "spore image"
Just play elusiveness
what bug? and which set
stealthi/frozensoviet you guys have any vods?
pretty sure thats fixed
If you use the exact dm -> Shiv -> KB right now GCD perfect, your KB will fade as your DM fades. If you delay, KB's final tick will be slightly after when DM fades, which is when the 40% kicks in, after deathmark expires
99% sure its fixed
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stealthi streams i think but not m+
ohhh from our old 4pc
Didn't know that was what we were talking about
Yeah it's only an optimization for the last tier set
how often did this happen i wonder
gnarlroot and last boss everbloom
Pins
pretty much
only on amp bosses
considering im live rn
id say liar
how is st with that build?

just having food break
Prove it
Is your twitch just stealthi?
oh so the bug was only on som bosses
standing on target dummys for 5 minutes and wondering the dmg .... until i looked in the buff bar and saw , OH theres no poison applied ._.
i knew my dm shiv envenom KB was good
i never understand how it's not immediately obvious you don't have poisons
thanks I'll check it out, been trying to figure out how to approach different types of packs
like you literally have no energy ever
yday ate two pizzas watching u,now ive got one more almost rdy
u gonna make me fat
😄
wtf 2 pizzas 
man now I want pizza
it is, just checked my vod from last raid
cool thanks, i wasnt sure cause i didnt see patch notes
this m+ season is hella cursed. im at 1 piece in 32 dungeon
??
Did I imagine that there was a blizzard implemented change so that mutilate became ambush as needed? ….could have sworn I read something like that here
this might be cringe to ask but can you get the streamer WA/addon that shows your button presses
Just loot it Dieb
i do
next to details
christ
oh nvm those vods are from like 2 months ago lol
any good Sin macros?
I'm dropping gold 
but yeah thanks for sharing, will be helpful
more like on run 20 and no nichalos enjoyer
i can work with that 
What is that alien ship ui
I got branch hero first run but I keep getting baited into murozond instead of 1st half lol

Bro operating a star destroyer
who's setup is this?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fuTQqDAsMfgAEPREimGcFV ttb vs. blindside is so negligible for me, maybe it's a bigger gap with the new tier? (6t 1min, no buffs at all, no lust)
What’s the green bar
Hp
did it my own
?
which one
damn bro you got a hotas + pedal setup to run that rogue or what
exactly lol
the big one is HP ye
Below the yellow bar
i mean i sim dslice
yeh i'm just trying to give ttb optimal conditions
more accurate for dungeons especially for sin with restealth
it's very unique...i like the textures
thanks
cuz you would never really ambush in this 6t patchwerk scenario right
how tf you simming this high
i am just used to redo it every week OwO maybe next week it looks complete diffrewnt xD
so it's effectively a completely dead talent
A paracausal trinket has got to be better than those pages
@strange python so your UI is a jet Pilot setup
yes
brother i resubbed the night before the patch, until my last everbloom i was running an hc kurog trinket with those pages
do you guys ever have issues with ambush/mutilate at the end of subterfuge? sometimes my input gets ignored and i have to press again

Not that bad ngl
Roast me Kappa , but im good with it
you should share that on wago so nerd like me can steal interesting ideas and concepts from it to integrate into our own setup 😄
That green bar so big
Atleast you can see yourself getting oneshot really well
ye
combo points and energy being the same color would fry me
Not as bad as the vertical timer bar WA
i quickly forget about my HP and forget to press the hp vial :3
I do, yeah. It’s to the point where I just decided to make a separate bind for ambush (my old bind before blindside procs replaced mutilate). Idk if someone has a better fix for this tho, the stance macro wasn’t working for me either.
O___O
how bad is crit/vers for sin if I mainly play outlaw?
you put the horror in horizontal
Not enough stuff tracking
Get more
where buffood tracker ? or posions on weapons ?
any working claustic splater WAs fellas?
yooo any assassination OGs that can tell me why the hell i cant sustain above 90k in my dance build? <3<3
i feel like it's partially because i dont have enough haste to fit in the last ambush in subterfuge windows maybe it's a problem that resolves itself with more gear
right click on the group you have everything saved in and click export. You'll get a string of code to copy and then go to wago.io and click the import button....then paste that string......at least i think that's how you upload them to the site
Stat values are incredibly close for sin, I remember Whispyr did a sim with full OL gear and it was really close
Most of these groups have a spatter icon in them
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will do it , just so u can copy my stuf haha
Yeah 3% difference between using full outlaw bis for sim












