assassination

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[junior aurora]

70k a year is crazy good for playing wow all day

[sinful beacon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[proud badge]

Please tell me mut is better than outlaw with set

[junior aurora]

and then streaming it and making more

[arctic hare]

exactly

[flint tusk]

Definitely not. Except being forced to farm mythic for boosts on end i imagine can wear the soul a touch.

[limber lion]

Around the same, just play what you like more

[junior aurora]

no more than a normal job would wear on your soul

[arctic hare]

It becomes a job, and when it becomes a job, burnout becomes a HUGE issue I'm sure

[proud badge]

That sounds fantastic

[flint tusk]

Yeh but making your hobby your job then making it soul destroying

[limber lion]

I fucking hate maintaining alts, but I'd still do that rather than work in Mc'D's for half the pay

[junior aurora]

^

[arctic hare]

Honestly, I feel that

[junior aurora]

people work much harder and get burnt out for much less

[arctic hare]

wait, half?

you mean a 12th?

[limber lion]

Even better

[arctic hare]

its crazy to think that we're at 19 years of WoW....

Do yall think Blizzard ever expected WoW to blow up so massively?

[junior aurora]

theres no shot

esp not during tbc/wrath era

[wild beacon]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[arctic hare]

I mean, at its peak it had what, 12 million players?

[digital wind]

hi, we take haste rune now or always crit rune ?

[dark token]

i got removed from a 19 for being assa

xD

[arctic hare]

Don’t we take mastery

?

[flint tusk]

Not just 12million.
12 million concurrent!

[junior aurora]

getting removed from a 19 for being assa

did they forget its not voti anymore

[arctic hare]

So, if you go with that, thats 180 million a month, not including expacs, in game services, etc.

Wow is a fuckin goldmine.

[flint tusk]

Even with 1mil is still is a goldmine 😂

All things considered

[arctic hare]

Honestly

Not to mention they’re beginning to fix their shit and listening to players…

[flint tusk]

But now with all the cash shop stuff i’ll bet that’s surpassed their sub money

[arctic hare]

That’ll definitely net them some more players

[flint tusk]

Faster expansions turnover etc

[arctic hare]

True

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/backing-you-get-yours-danny-devito-danny-devito-gif-13052176

[oak tangle]

aintnoway they dont make most of their money from mtx

[arctic hare]

Lmao

[clever sapphire]

think about it thisway, you just dodged a bullet

that group is destined to deplete

[arctic hare]

True

[clever sapphire]

with that mindset

[flint tusk]

Yup

[trail storm]

T31 2pc is a decent Kingsbane buff right? With 12% attack speed and 12% nature?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[flint tusk]

Ye

[willow kite]

Yeah - one store mount out earned the sales for SC2 wings of liberty

[grand trail]

sims 1k lowe trhan echo for me

[trail storm]

Sweet

[grand trail]

but i have 28% haste so haste no good propably anymore

[flint tusk]

Yeh i saw that 😂 that is pure pain

[willow kite]

It's so depressing as an rts fan lol

[flint tusk]

Sadly people have no self control now

[arctic hare]

Sc2?

[flint tusk]

Oooo pretty thing swipes card

https://tenor.com/view/zergathul-banes-banelings-starcraft-gif-19827511

^^^^

[arctic hare]

OH, starcraft

[flint tusk]

Ye

[arctic hare]

We humans dooooo like our shinies though…

[flint tusk]

So a WHOLE GAME got outsold by a cosmetic

[arctic hare]

Yep.

[turbid heath]

any BiS lists anywhere? 🙂

[spring socket]

if we wanna get KSM week 2 what rating we need to be ideally this week ?

[true belfry]

Hi
How do you now sit at 0 energy all the time in ST?
Cant figure that crap out

[flint tusk]

I mean you don’t

[haughty flicker]

i think all 16s both weeks is ksm so something around there

[flint tusk]

Assa isn’t a spam your abilities are fast as possible spec

[true belfry]

so sometimes you just autoattack ?

[flint tusk]

Yes.
Inside CDs spam away. Outside
Envenom build to 4+ combos wait.
Then envenom again before the buff drops basically

[haughty flicker]

is it just me or is raider.io kind of cursed atm bc of doti

[strange python]

Can we get another 2nd Splintered Spark of dream this week (or just 1) - assuming we got all two last week.

[haughty flicker]

addon and website both seem to just be choosing random fall keys to display as my rise score despite me not having stepped foot there yet

or rather, not completing one yet

[pseudo hamlet]

It's good to macro Shadow Dance + Kingsbane? Both 1 min and seems we're using them together almost always?

[strange python]

yeah it's fine - there are certain niche use cases where you'd want to shadowdance but not KB - such as m+ scenarios

[haughty flicker]

just the one, its one splinter every week from now on

only first week was two

[flint tusk]

Plus always shadow dance before kingsbane in the macro order

[strange python]

Mannnnn i had some good pulls last night in heroic - and all of our kills, i either died or just did terribly

[haughty flicker]

its ok i parsed a 1 on normal fyrakk because i cloaked too early and got one shot immediately

[pseudo hamlet]

Thanks guys!

[strange python]

[crimson crest]

How much more difficult is sin in m+/aoe compared to raid/st?

[strange python]

bruh

[clever sapphire]

not everyon can be a number 1

[strange python]

the bear man

[oak tangle]

the spec, like none, knowing target prio is the hard part

[strange python]

insta charged

[flint tusk]

28k impressive you managed to auto attack

[spring socket]

did council last nite hc felt better with aterial/blind vuid

build

[haughty flicker]

huge

[flint tusk]

I tried it with IC as why the hell not.
Was surprisingly good. Got a good cleave empowered garrote and rupture each kingsbane

[strange python]

I honestly considered gearing up my BM last night

[spring socket]

bm is a joke at the mo esp in keys

[haughty flicker]

i wonder if just having 2/3 mostly stacked on council is enough to make ic worth

[strange python]

I just feel so affected by tank positioning

[keen spruce]

I WANT TO RAID

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[haughty flicker]

i dont imagine so but maybe

[spring socket]

aterial/blind seems best this week

[oak tangle]

yes pls sir

sunday raider life

[flint tusk]

When you starting an all rogue guild?

[strange python]

who gonna tank and such

[keen spruce]

that doesn't sound very productive

[spring socket]

we 4/8 hc first week really happy

[strange python]

like druids i could see

[flint tusk]

Not with that mindset

[indigo mulch]

we didn't even kill smolderon yet

[strange python]

yeah we got to 4/8 (so we got two vault slots)

[indigo mulch]

im veri worried ;C

[lavish wing]

does SBS get a NS snapshot as well?

[keen spruce]

i have full 20s in my m+ vault

and only 5/9 normal

[indigo mulch]

[strange python]

I've got 3 470's from m+ and 2 heroic/1 normal

[flint tusk]

Jesus. All 20’s i really need to find a proper group instead of randos feom my guild 😅

[indigo mulch]

9/9 normal and 6/9 hc 😦

I only have 18's in my vault tho

[keen spruce]

I pugged like half of them, then the rest was with a mix of guildies and people i normally push with

[indigo mulch]

:O

[strange python]

ugh i need a helm - my current helm is still 411 so i'm off to do some m+

[flint tusk]

“People in normally push with.”
Mans got friends just slapping them on the table. 😭

[keen spruce]

just uhh

add people

when u pug

then invite them to discord

then u have friends

[indigo mulch]

Imagian being friendly with other human beings.

[flint tusk]

You mean you have to go out and socialize to meet people

[indigo mulch]

[flint tusk]

[static glacier]

I’d say 80% of my keys have been pugs or with 1 pre

[frigid python]

Can we finish on 4cp? Or should I muta again?

[static glacier]

Few of mine have been full premade

[keen spruce]

yes

[neat plank]

sell me on assa over outlaw for m+ 🙂

[strange python]

I need someone to make me a boomer build - that takes no setup, has acro, has SBS, and probably no Kingsbane.

[keen spruce]

i mean

i can make it

but it ain't gonna be good

[haughty flicker]

he didnt say it has to be good

so thats fine

[indigo mulch]

The people i play with asked me to play assassination for extra silence on mobs.

[strange python]

When I try to make one i'm like 20-27% under "the build"

[indigo mulch]

😄

[flint tusk]

So you mean outlaw?

[haughty flicker]

ok but iron wire is kind of op

[strange python]

you saying outlaw is boomer? I dont mind APM

[indigo mulch]

You know the 3 mobs in everbloom, the 3 pack of casters

[keen spruce]

okay so the only rules

[neat plank]

I changed to ass and I just enjoy playing so much more. I can actually do mechanics and look around

[keen spruce]

are no KB, +SBS, +acro

[static glacier]

Aoe silence, uncapped, great prio dmg

[indigo mulch]

me and the dh tank can keep them silecned from 100% to 0%

[strange python]

yes sir

[keen spruce]

for ST?

[strange python]

yeah ST

[neat plank]

which ability is uncapped?

[flint tusk]

Man that’s so cursed already

[strange python]

I scrolled through like hundreds of WCL logs last night to try and find a build without KB - and they don't exist lol

[flint tusk]

Shmeeps going to become corrupted by the secret sauce

That’s because kingsbane is mega fat god nuker

[strange python]

It's just a lot sometimes with mechanics and prog and learning new things you know

yeah i know

I just wonder how much I lose by f'ing up my kingsbanes

[flint tusk]

You’d be better sitting at a dummy and getting the timing in muscle memory

[strange python]

like that tree boss - i send it into her - then she phases lol

and worst part, i did it twice

[flint tusk]

Well to top parse assa this tier is 100% going to be about knowing the rotation off by heart perfectly. Then having perfect boss knowledge for when you can sit slapping for 20secs

[keen spruce]

@strange python okay first try not that good

[flint tusk]

Oof

[strange python]

oof

[shut canopy]

it is rough, on hc I was sending kb on the tree and that was kinda nice for timings but it does knock your 2nd deathmark out of sync for a little bit

[strange python]

keep going sir, i believe in you

[midnight jay]

This speaks to my soul....u_u

[strange python]

yeah my DM always gets so out of sync too lol

[flint tusk]

It’s this bit really right?

I changed to ass and I just enjoy playing so much more.

[strange python]

I mean I'm not against playing outlaw for raiding - and sin for m+ lol

[midnight jay]

On Outlaw my eyes are glued to my WA....no time to look at mechanics

[static glacier]

most things are soft uncapped

I can't remember if poison bomb is actually uncapped

[strange python]

I played a few tiers as outlaw before, so i'm sure i can pick it back up pretty quick

[keen spruce]

[strange python]

oooh! getting there

[jovial verge]

It is quite tough to be honest @strange python especially since you are new to the spec (I think you said that before!). The timings really matter and with the often chaotic-rythim of prog its going to be hard to really nail it down

[flint tusk]

In before you’re uncovering the secret sauce where you MUST stack crit.

[haughty flicker]

only 25% dps loss

[flint tusk]

35% haste or bust

[haughty flicker]

ez

[jovial verge]

I was messing up on Larry constantly like a turbo griefer with my timings 😓

[junior aurora]

stack crit so i never get a 1 cp fan of knives again

that shit is deflating

[haughty flicker]

i joined a heroic larry pug

fucked up both dm windows

and they one shot it

rip parse

[flint tusk]

I mean

[strange python]

oh yeah that's the other thing - our other sin rogue - i'd check his KB normal/crits after a pull, and he'd be like 8/18 - i'd be like 18/8. So i konw my crit is low

[flint tusk]

A kills a kill

[junior aurora]

everytime i die in a pug while logging its a kill

[haughty flicker]

i lost both rolls on tier

[jovial verge]

We killed it on one of my worst parses after I was consitently top DPS I cried a little

[haughty flicker]

but i got the hearthstone so we take it

[strange python]

[flint tusk]

So mythic fyrakk pug when?

[junior aurora]

tomorrow

[flint tusk]

[junior aurora]

are you vanishing at the end

and using shadow dance with kb

[strange python]

yeah i got the tech down

[junior aurora]

then ig you’re just unlucky

[strange python]

maybe mind lapses here and there lol

Shmeeps making me a boomer spec

[junior aurora]

8/26 crits is rough

[strange python]

I'm at 20% on my char sheet

[flint tusk]

I will say @gaunt moat WA is a hard carry for me when i’m feeling tired.
The glow/flash is just enough to make me go OH FUCK YEH!

[junior aurora]

considering you prob have 50% crit chance for a lot of ticks

[gaunt moat]

I updated it yesterday btw, hope you got latest version

[terse orchid]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[flint tusk]

The one that also does yellow for tea timing?

[gaunt moat]

ye

[haughty flicker]

i might have to try that one

[flint tusk]

Yeh that one is bis

[terse orchid]

can you link it?

[haughty flicker]

i like LE's kingsbane bar but sometimes i still miss shit

glowing is good for monke brain

[gaunt moat]

i use both mine and LE's

@terse orchid https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

[terse orchid]

thanks bub

[keen spruce]

notter returned because I forgot to send him updates

[gaunt moat]

SO YOU ADMIT YOU FORGOT

[keen spruce]

all part of my master plan

yes

[haughty flicker]

rabbit vs duck

[terse orchid]

Finding new weakauras has been the hardest part about the rogue update

[haughty flicker]

the showdown of the century

[junior aurora]

i use both bc i like notters to see the number

but i use LEs for timing

[willow kite]

I don't quite know the significance of all the ticks in LEs garrote bar, anyone know all of em in order?

[terse orchid]

I miss infexious' pack

[willow kite]

Cause it's more than just tea and vanish

[crisp ridge]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[gaunt moat]

there's explanation under custom options tab

[strange python]

so 8 sec is the shiv - 6 sec is the tea - 3 sec is the vanish (if there's another it's a trinket)

[junior aurora]

Shadow dance ending is red, lime green is use tea, the other green is shiv, the blue is vanish

[keen spruce]

@strange python I just ran like... 106 different talent combos and i think the best you're gonna get its like -24% from the normal raid build

[willow kite]

Woah

Thanks everyone

[haughty flicker]

worth

[strange python]

lol yeah that's about where I was. I'm willing to smack a dummy with it for a while and see what it's about - link me bruh

[strange python]

thanks

[keen spruce]

[flint tusk]

New bis spec

[keen spruce]

but also

why no KB

kb good button

[strange python]

I dunno, less to mess up hah

[haughty flicker]

get rid of dtb and make it a no capstone build

[strange python]

maybe i make a build that has KB but is less-dependant on it i dunno

[keen spruce]

u just press kb

then smash buttons

and it do big damage

[haughty flicker]

bro

[strange python]

yeah that's a consideration

[haughty flicker]

wtf is the rest of the group doing in that image

[keen spruce]

it's lfr

[haughty flicker]

oh lmao

carry on

[keen spruce]

they're doin their best

[flint tusk]

Shmeep needed his ego boost for the week

😂

[keen spruce]

no i needed tier

[strange python]

tryin'a get that tier

[keen spruce]

and a signet

[haughty flicker]

need that tier chance

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

i didnt see a single piece of tier drop from lfr at all

[flint tusk]

No you needed to sate your raid addiction

[keen spruce]

no zenith

[flint tusk]

Giving me your half baked excuses

[keen spruce]

i mean also true

[dark token]

its same dmg

and less pad

[willow kite]

Yeah, not a single Rogue tier in either lfr or normal

Got curio though

[dark token]

and scales harder into higher keys with good routes

and more chill imo

[terse orchid]

And it's cooler

miss me with that pirate shit

[gaunt moat]

I use LE's WA for the timing, and mine to see how much i fucked up the timing.

[spring locust]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[haughty flicker]

huge

[hazy flame]

Where does Assassination rank in terms of difficulty between the three rogue specs?

[bleak ivy]

probably hardest

[keen spruce]

eh

[willow kite]

They're all easy

[terse orchid]

Depends on what you struggle with

[keen spruce]

they're all pretty different

[willow kite]

We play an easy game

[terse orchid]

My reaction times are kinda bad, so I struggle with outlaw

[haughty flicker]

it is kind of hard to compare

[terse orchid]

I'm good at planning ahead, so I'm good at assassination

[haughty flicker]

i still think personally sin is easiest

[bleak ivy]

theyre all easy but assaasination may reequire more brain ngl

[terse orchid]

Sub is easy as fuck, or at least it was the past 2 seasons

Assassination imo is also easy, but it's diffferent strokes for different folks

[hazy flame]

Thining about switching from Sub cause I really don't like how it feels after the patch

[bleak ivy]

assa AoE is wack thats about it for me

[gaunt moat]

If you think assassination is easy, you have not played any other class in the game

[hazy flame]

Not sure which to go with between Assa and Outlaw

[terse orchid]

Somewhat true. Lifelong sin rogue main lol

[flint tusk]

BM hunter has left the chat

[bleak ivy]

go outlaw piss easy

[safe wigeon]

idk why when i use kingsbane on boss it doesnt use the ability and just going to cd

[terse orchid]

I dabbled in fury warrior but that ruined my hands

[hazy flame]

Probably the hardest class I have played in Enhancement

[bleak ivy]

how is it hard xd

[hazy flame]

Not sure where that stands in terms of difficulty

[keen spruce]

is it getting parried?

[terse orchid]

Not dying to a gust of wind

[gaunt moat]

I think sin is probably one of the hardest specs in the game right now.

[safe wigeon]

sadge

[hazy flame]

Not saying it is hard, just saying it is the hardest out of what I have played.

[haughty flicker]

i mean im just comparing vs other rogue specs

compared to fury and shit yeah its a lot harder

[bleak ivy]

Fire mage in m+

[keen spruce]

asking a room full of assas rogues if assas is hard is gonna bring in a lot of bias

[haughty flicker]

having to use your cds on a specific target rather than just popping buffs on yourself and blasting already makes it harder than a lot of other classes

[thorny onyx]

If we get Timestrike dagger in hero 1/6, do we want to spend wyrms and aspects to upgrade it to 6/6?

[spice surge]

Having to track multiple bleeds on every target

[bleak ivy]

alot of ppl here have mmained the 2 other specs at some point too tho

[spice surge]

Is objectively not easy

[haughty flicker]

it also kind of matters if we're talking about m+ or raid

[spice surge]

Ontop of what beli said

Which makes it even harder

[haughty flicker]

because its significantly easier in raid

[bleak ivy]

I was thinking he was talking about m+ I hate sin AoE rotation xd

[crisp pine]

I feel like Sin is giga hard when you've never played the spec before and start with 10.2
But after a bit of playing around it all feels very natural

[flint tusk]

I mean assa is easier in raid. But the damage swing between playing it well and just playing it is huge

[haughty flicker]

yeah

[keen spruce]

I would still say that assas in raid is not that easy compared to a lot of specs

[austere fulcrum]

hello fam, quick question. Are we keeping same embalishments yea ?

[gaunt moat]

Try playing feral. it's just PRESS ABILITIES ON CD, REFRESH DOTS.
that's it.

[keen spruce]

toxic toxic yeah

[haughty flicker]

i tried playing feral but my guild wanted atrophic

new cat form is op

[flint tusk]

You’ve hypnotised them well

[haughty flicker]

they brainwashed themselves

but yeah i play fury and ret as alts and sin is definitely significantly harder than either of those

in raid or m+

[flint tusk]

I gave mine the illusion of choice
“ guys did you want the damage reduction or attack slow this boss”

[keen spruce]

I also don't think that it being harder is a bad thing

if you've played wow for a long time it can kind of get a bit formulaic

so getting challenged is nice

[oak tangle]

i guess we're just wired differently, because i see nearly all other specs as harder than this

[flint tusk]

I like rogue because it is harder

[robust axle]

What is your guys' priotities for the first 2 sparks?

[bleak ivy]

I'm challanged

[flint tusk]

I get too bored otherwise

[haughty flicker]

i think if i were to play a ranged class i'd think it was harder

just bc im not used to it

other than like

bm or evoker that is

[keen spruce]

i mean I certainly be worse at other specs

[oak tangle]

other classes have far more pressure on hitting gcd's back to back than we do

[keen spruce]

but like the concepts aren't that hard

[flint tusk]

I mean just remove acro and you get the same affect 😂

[keen spruce]

like destro lock

pretty dern simple to understand

[oak tangle]

which requires far more second to second thought, than sin which is very much planning

[bleak ivy]

can I somehow squeeze in Acro without losing too much dps?

[keen spruce]

ST or m+?

[bleak ivy]

m+

[gaunt moat]

I do like that we can go insane in m+ now.
But i feel like chain pulling is still an issue.

[junior aurora]

acro is a massive dps loss for me in m+ build

[bleak ivy]

ah

[junior aurora]

simmed it earlier and dropping tea was like 10k st dps it was crazy

[haughty flicker]

i have no idea what the actual dps loss is but chain pulling pug tanks certainly make me feel like shit

[bleak ivy]

it is what is it then

[keen spruce]

you'd drop tea

and vigor

for lethality and acro

[bleak ivy]

not worth

[junior aurora]

yeah i simmed that shmeeps

[robust axle]

What is you guys' priotities for the first 2 sparks?

[oak tangle]

it's probs minimal dps loss, except that it fucks with the rythym and that is giga losses

[steel spire]

acro good

[flint tusk]

It turns out that the past few months i hadn’t been using acro anyway. As my default distance from the boss hasn’t changed 😂

I just lose a global on run out and run in. But with the extra energy pool i’d say that hasn’t mattered

[keen spruce]

toxic boots

then idk

[bleak ivy]

weapon

[keen spruce]

probably just patch

if you need a wep yeah grab a wep

or some off piece that you haven't found

[junior aurora]

wep wont be permanent tho just keep that in mind

[haughty flicker]

i think im gonna do patch but not at aspect level

[plucky thistle]

i strugling with Shadowmeld>Stealth for two days sometiems it work sometimes it not: Doing pack want to shadowmeld and stealth. I use macro dont move and sometimes it get me into stealth sometiems it dont work

[junior aurora]

id wait to see what you grab from your vault

[haughty flicker]

too many other upgrades that need crests

[plucky thistle]

Can you psot your working shadowmeld macro?

[robust axle]

Would you use your HC spark token first and have more Aspect crests for upgrading, or just max upgrade from the get-go?

[junior aurora]

yeah im using the free heroic spark next week

used aspect on boots this week

[keen spruce]

"sometimes it work sometimes it not" is pretty much the definition of rogue stealth and shadowmeld interactions

[bleak ivy]

dont play nelf ez - 1 button

[oak tangle]

it will never work when you are in boss combat

[plucky thistle]

@oak tangle So only on packs?

[oak tangle]

yes

[keen spruce]

technically this is the most ilvl efficient

but i just used aspects on my shoes

[plucky thistle]

Ok thanks and i dont get it for two days why it dont work..

[keen spruce]

cuz now I don't need to worry about them anymore

[junior aurora]

^

[haughty flicker]

yup

one slot done

ez

[junior aurora]

its also barely more aspect efficient

to the point where it doesnt matter for the majority

[keen spruce]

yea like 4 total ilvls

lose 10 from lower craft, gain 14 from extra upgrades

or something

and insignificant amount

[bleak ivy]

how much mastery yall got

[lethal forge]

I missed and crafted slimy boots instead of toxic...

[oak tangle]

-3 weeks

[surreal citrus]

46%

[keen spruce]

4451

[flint tusk]

#showtooltip shadowmeld
/stopattack
/cast shadowmeld
/cast !stealth
that is literally mine and it's worked for years

[near osprey]

So this is simming better for me than Nelth's call to suffering-- is there any reason to time it's on use with deathmark, since it doesn't give stats? I already have Mirror of Fracture Tomorrows on my deathmark macro and they share a CD, I think I'm probably gonna have to hit this one manually.

[haughty flicker]

this kingsbane tracker just makes me feel sad

2.1m kb followed by a 1.2m kb

unlucky

[uncut echo]

Im on top of the world bestie

[glossy imp]

This is why I don’t use it. Seeing a low kb due to rng would tilt me 😂

I’m blissfully unaware how hard kb hits

[solar bramble]

curious what peoples crit/haste values are. to chain envenoms after the opener

[flint tusk]

stop

[solar bramble]

my envenom seems to not last long enough to chain them reliably

and maintain energy over 50%

withotu ambush procs

[flint tusk]

you DON'T do that

[haughty flicker]

you arent aiming to maintain energy over 50%

[robust garden]

Sanguine Blades are a bonus, not a requirement

[solar bramble]

so the only times you pool are after the initial burst? and then just before your next 1m sequence?

[robust garden]

You kinda pool inbetween your KBs

[solar bramble]

since the tier set you want to envenom with envenom already active.

and it's such a short duration

[final star]

[flint tusk]

https://youtu.be/UG0zGACDAuY?si=LYyICmEdGrPe8rv3

[solar bramble]

what build are you using in m+ for that kpb?

[solar bramble]

my overall in like 11-12 keys is closer to 100k

so the same buidl i'm using

[indigo epoch]

Bro. How. Im doing like 120k overall on a 15.

I'm so bad

[final star]

co-ordinated group

[vapid skiff]

its hard with assa in keys

lots of things to keep track on and adapt too

[final star]

lower keys things don't live long enough

[solar bramble]

my sin can do overall of up to 120-130k but not reliably

[vapid skiff]

but its really strong

[final star]

enough in 20-21 things don't live long enough

[vapid skiff]

well sudden deaths save you in low keys

[final star]

sudden demise execute is very strong with cd's

[vapid skiff]

you can still do pretty good dmg due to that

[solar bramble]

ya when things live long enough i seem to do well. but I can't really use kingsbane burst on packs. they don't live long enough

[final star]

absolutely destroys a mob

[solar bramble]

pft the keys i'm doing. when a mob gets close enough for sudden demise. it's already dying to an eye beam

[flint tusk]

in M+ not staying above 50% is likely to be most of peoples problems

i.e not having enough bleeds up

to keep you above 50%

[neat plank]

fair 🙂

[solar bramble]

m+ i usually don't struggle too much with energy. unelss every mob i used AoE bleeds on dies. and tank chain pulls next one with nothing active

[final star]

once I get 2p or 4p

[solar bramble]

and either I commit vanish or shadow dance . . . . or I don't have bleeds

since they like to pull before the present back dies. . . no restealth

[crisp pine]

Shadow Dance is a 1 minute cooldown
I think it's alright to use it on a pack from time to time

[solar bramble]

in m+ is it stilla cceptable to macro kings bane + shadow dance together?

[flint tusk]

shadowmeld

[final star]

I removed it

because I prefer having it as a IC activator

[gusty mirage]

Stop playing my spec

[solar bramble]

atm i have a dance unmacro'd. and a dance macro'd

[gusty mirage]

Or I’m going to sue the UK

[flint tusk]

but for real dancing and KB being 1min comes up pretty quick when you think about it

[flint tusk]

that's fine we've got no money anyway

[final star]

I'm getting you nerfed

[vapid skiff]

im gonna remove the kb from dance macro for keys tbh

[fallen forge]

based and real

[solar bramble]

i mean. i get more value from my shiv in AoE packs amplifyhing bleeds than i do pairing it with crimson tempest it seems

[gusty mirage]

False

[vapid skiff]

its too often you prefer doing some IC applications before you wanna send the KB

[gusty mirage]

Also tell Lenny to stop inting

[solar bramble]

ya in m+ i'd much rather open from stealth. and then use KB combo's

after i get some bleeds out

[gusty mirage]

He should be doing more damage

[clever sapphire]

is there any way to make the branch orbs more visible btw? or am i just stuck trying to look for them

[solar bramble]

also that warlock damage under the tank lol

[final star]

split helper rat alt

[vapid skiff]

dont be in a raid

[final star]

hard boss

[solar bramble]

and some bm on a low damage buidl too . . . buff bm

[crisp pine]

Windwalker going strong I see

[clever sapphire]

i was in m+ tho

[gusty mirage]

Not really

[final star]

[gusty mirage]

Smolderon was harder

[final star]

it is with half 445 alts half mains and 8 split helpers

[vapid skiff]

i mean no its just rough but its even worse on raid fights imo

[clever sapphire]

didnt use it in raid yet

[vapid skiff]

10+ peopel stacking on top of you doing cool animations + boss mechanics

[solar bramble]

soo. for kingsbane combo's in ST . . . it's what .. . shiv > dance > kingsbane > envenom > garrote? > ambush > envenom?

[vapid skiff]

hard to see them a lot ofthe time

[clever sapphire]

gonna be fun on nymue

[solar bramble]

with thistle tea used near the end of kingsbane window

[clever sapphire]

preferably have envenom buff up before using kb, tea used with little under 6 sec left on kb

[vapid skiff]

envenom>shiv>dance>kingsbane in start you wanna have envenom buff already before you send the kingsbane

[flint tusk]

Envenom>shiv>dance/kingsbane>garrote>envenom>ambush>rupture>ambush/s>envenom then shiv before first one drops but after kingsbane hits 8 sec

[solar bramble]

and in the 2m windows it's the same thing. but you use deathmark before shiv? and then vanish in the last 3s of kingsbane

[vapid skiff]

yes

[flint tusk]

I see whispyr made the during KB easier so just spamming envenoms during dance/kingsbane

[solar bramble]

seems simple enough

[flint tusk]

Yeh for DM just get 4+ combos before deathmarking then into the envenom shiv bit

[solar bramble]

dethmark > envenom? or envenom > deathmark?

[flint tusk]

mut/ambush to 4+>DM>envenom>shiv>dance/kings

[vapid skiff]

envenom before deathmark

[oak tangle]

i love when you sign up for a galakrond's fall, but they put in a murizond's rise, and then the healer leaves mid key

[flint tusk]

don't think that bit really has much of a differnce. i just like going into kings with a longer envenom buff to ensure coverage.

[solar bramble]

they deserve it for using murizonds rise instead of galkronds fall . . . . morchie can go fck herself

[crisp pine]

Healer players only realizing they're in the wrong key midway through the dungeon checks out

[flint tusk]

honestly anyone does that i'm instantly leaving.

[vapid skiff]

ye i got jebaited into murozonds rise while signing up for galakrond yesterday too

[solar bramble]

ya. if someone does that i instaleave as well.

[gusty mirage]

Surely they’ll fix the dungeon finder soon

SURELY

[junior aurora]

its bc dungeon finder auto lists it

[oak tangle]

i would, but im just chasing gear so i'd stay

[junior aurora]

they arent being malicious lol

[solar bramble]

they can change the text

[flint tusk]

and i'm not wasting my time lol

[solar bramble]

but good point

[oak tangle]

remove the doti part

[junior aurora]

not if they arent authenticated

[robust garden]

Rusky players can't

Because their authenticator is impossible to connect

So be aware of that

[solar bramble]

rusky?

[robust garden]

russian

[solar bramble]

aah

[oak tangle]

EU

[gusty mirage]

So glad they have the Authenticator requirement and it hasn’t stopped LFG ads

[solar bramble]

theirs so many of those it's kind of obscene

[gusty mirage]

After I had a tank int 6 everblooms in a row, those ads got tempting ngl

[solar bramble]

how do you even int an everbloom. . .. the trio too difficult for him?

[oak tangle]

my lfg becomes a game of dodge the azralon players

[solar bramble]

or did the idiot chain pull mobs that hard cc and cast. locking the party down without proper interrupts

[gusty mirage]

DH tanks and leaping early into melee on council boss

Name a more iconic duo

[solar bramble]

do they not have their spikes up

[gusty mirage]

“Melee you’re doing the boss wrong”

Like I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to stack on your melee with the giant green tank circle

[solar bramble]

oh the tank bringing the circle into melee?

[gusty mirage]

[solar bramble]

that's kidna dumb

it's 3 AoE's right? is it baited to the 2 ranged and tank. or tank + 2 random?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah one on the tank and then the swirlies on the players

[solar bramble]

but the 2 swirlies on players. is that baited to ranged? or is it any of the other 4

[gusty mirage]

Also people for some reason think it’s the wod version of the dungeon where the bosses take less damage during their hard casts, which isn’t the case

[solar bramble]

I'm in the habbit of walking out of melee when the tank ets his debuff. just in case i get shit thrown at me. and still want space to smack the boss

right before it goes off

[gusty mirage]

Yeah the melee and ranged are supposed to stack off the bosses

So you have room on the boss

[solar bramble]

ya. i just cheat naer max melee. and leave when the circle is about to go pop. and then go back in

though tbf. i havent done that as sin y et. just outlaw with acrobatic strikes

[gusty mirage]

[solar bramble]

and i have chain up for every instance

[gusty mirage]

People have been over complicating keys all week

[solar bramble]

it's less than 30s apart. so no shadowstep for every one

[gusty mirage]

And it’s triggering me

[solar bramble]

i mean. i havent really done morizonds rise. or darkheart thicket much

[royal lantern]

wow players, always

[gusty mirage]

Upper dawn is toxic as shit

[solar bramble]

because i know i don't know them and would likely kill someone lol

[gusty mirage]

It’s ridiculously hard

[solar bramble]

it has morchie . . that is enough for me to avoid it. I'm not looking for no damn hat

[junior aurora]

They made the hats much bigger

[vapid skiff]

upper dawn and throne of tides feel quite a bit rougher than the others imo

[junior aurora]

still covered by my nameplates tho lol

[solar bramble]

won't matter. that hat could be her entire head and I still wouldn't notice it fast enough

[royal lantern]

cant wait for tyranical tyr soak

[gusty mirage]

Yea morchie is sadly the easiest boss

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

Lmao

[junior aurora]

the battlefield boss is so rough

[gusty mirage]

I’m not touching that piece of shit dungeon next week

[junior aurora]

bladestorm and you dont have sprint is almost a death sentence

[solar bramble]

I'm not good at small visuals on a character. . . the only way I can do that fight is to shadowstep/chain as the dragon appears. before the breath

[gusty mirage]

Morchie without comms sounds absolutely miserable

Cause you can avoid the frontal on the edges of the room even if you can’t get behind her

[solar bramble]

relying more on my split second chain timing when i see a dragon. than identifying a small litle damn hat. . . I generaly always make it

[junior aurora]

cloak and burn boss before 2nd hats lol

[solar bramble]

avoid dungeon > cloak and burn

that's one dungeon i'll likely do a 17-20ish just to get it done. and avoid it like the plague after

[gusty mirage]

We were over by 6 minutes and we only had 10 deaths and 0 wipes lol

In a +20 rise

[vapid skiff]

timer is crazy low for that one

[solar bramble]

my ilvl is . . 443 soooooo.

[vapid skiff]

and then there is black rook when you can die 30 times and time it

[gusty mirage]

Healers + boulders, name a more iconic duo

It’s always the healers man

[vapid skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/omegadance-lul-omegalul-troll-dance-gif-26285282

[delicate trench]

so how do combo points from fan of knives points work ? every enemy hit with a crit grants a combo point iirc

[fallen forge]

even got confirmation it is fall

[gusty mirage]

You recall correctly

[surreal citrus]

bro whenever I queue into a mislabeled dawn going forward I'm just dipping

fuck your key bro

label it correctly

[gusty mirage]

You get 1cp for fok, and +1 if it crits your primary target, and 1 for each target it crits

[surreal citrus]

[delicate trench]

thank you just wanted to confirm it

[haughty flicker]

gotta do /keys when you join

[gusty mirage]

[haughty flicker]

unlucky

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern we ashes gamers or what

[royal lantern]

they gad to fix other stuff first

like buffing a raid dmg mechanic by 40% on a heal intensive fight

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that hotfix was uh something

[royal lantern]

ashes

[gusty mirage]

Kill pull everything started doing a shit ton more damage

[fallen forge]

not my key not my problem

[tribal mauve]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[surreal citrus]

I haven't gotten to fyrak yet but buffing a final boss like ?????

[vapid skiff]

kinda based

its alsoa very cool fight so i think its fine

its kinda sad when a cool epic fight is undertuned

prob wasnt really undertuned but rather overtuned in the start imo

[surreal citrus]

that's fair but wish I had seen it beforehand but then again I won't suffer the difference

[junior aurora]

they buff final bosses all the time

[thorn fjord]

@gusty mirage

[junior aurora]

esp now that they arent testing them

[royal lantern]

do mythic then

[surreal citrus]

lmao

[gusty mirage]

Aloo

[vapid skiff]

i did some tries on it yesterday it was kinda rough on us but we didnt do splits and shit so we are undergeared

[thorn fjord]

How'd raid go

[gusty mirage]

Volcross mythic hurts btw

Like a lot

[surreal citrus]

they do test the mythic bosses it's called rwf

[gusty mirage]

Everything fucking hurts

[thorn fjord]

We got stuck on Heroic Smold last night

[gusty mirage]

When that dies

[vapid skiff]

@royal lantern yes i am, we just cleared heroic except fyrakk and prob going some mythic before it tbh

[gusty mirage]

You beat heroic

Congrats

[thorn fjord]

yeah thats what it looks like

Its a cool fight tho

[gusty mirage]

Smolderon actually the hardest boss in the raid lmao

[thorn fjord]

Fucking ping pong boss

[gusty mirage]

Tindral falls over when your ranged learn how to stack the dispels

Fyrak is just a healer check tbh

[thorn fjord]

even with the 40% dmg increase?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah

[thorn fjord]

Well i guess yeah

more so

Its super early let me get my coffee

[junior aurora]

a lot of those buffs were on things you shouldn’t get hit by in the first place lol

[gusty mirage]

As long as people are alive, it dies pretty easily

[royal lantern]

tbf, smolderon is hard until you do the ussual heroic strat

downsize the raid

[gusty mirage]

Then you walk into mythic and everything ass fucks you

10/10

[thorn fjord]

Pretty much lol... we went from 26 to 20 and almost killed

But that was 2nd to last pull

[junior aurora]

tbf we’re like 20 ilvls down at this point prob

[steel spire]

Can't wait for df classic so I can relive the sin meta day 1

[thorn fjord]

our tank is 465

The degenerate

[gusty mirage]

Yeah we’re missing a lot of gear this early

[thorn fjord]

Wait till legion classic breh

[gusty mirage]

But when people get to like 480, first 4-5 should fall over

[thorn fjord]

Oh for sure

[junior aurora]

im even thinking like 480 ilvl keys are gonna be so easy

25-26 as easy as last seasons 20s

[thorn fjord]

Keys will get retuned FOR SURE

[lofty junco]

how much worser would it be not having tea/ER for ST build?

[thorn fjord]

Alot of them seem way too easy

[gusty mirage]

I believe no tea is like -5-6%

[junior aurora]

atal dazar is a free key, throne of the tides is a degenerate hive of scumfuck villain goblins

[gusty mirage]

Yeah fuck that gauntlet

[junior aurora]

every trash pack in throne is worse than the last

[steel spire]

Fucking dogs

[strange python]

Yeah I tried a lot of different builds and pretty much - the way the talents are in the guide - is like basically set in stone. Not a lot of wiggle room unless you're ok with missing 3% here or 5% there, etc.

[junior aurora]

the big crab naga putting u to 20% hp with the undodgeable arrows is cool too

[lofty junco]

just take acrobatic then instead, and switch to tea after i got more comfy with assa?

[gusty mirage]

Lmao bro that dungeon is so ass

[gusty mirage]

[junior aurora]

hope the dogs dont fixate on u when she dors

or u get globalled

unironically the bosses are a joke compared to the trash

[lofty junco]

didn't ya said acrobatic is like 1-2% anyway

[junior aurora]

except the last boss where you as a melee player have 1 minute to do damage

[steel spire]

the pools I must dive in them

[gusty mirage]

Yeah acro easily ends up being worth that much because of the extra range while dodging mechanics and stuff

[steel spire]

For dmg

[hoary fulcrum]

We don't take ER, though, right?

[gusty mirage]

We do not

[bleak ivy]

just had a gigachad tank

says sorry no +3

trades me 460 pants for no reason

without asking

leaves

[lofty junco]

so this and jsut switch tea to acrobatic?

[bleak ivy]

you can make it be worth to take acro in m+?

[delicate trench]

/cast shadow dance
/cast kingsbane
this macro is good enough for kingsbane to be cast with nightstalker buff ?

[spring socket]

wat build peeprs using in keys this week ?

[bleak ivy]

Arterial Shock for lower keys Hybrid for higher I think?

is the general idea

[spring socket]

with blindside or no ?

[bleak ivy]

I play with blindside idk

[abstract jacinth]

I like blindside too

[spring socket]

how can i put acro in that build ?

[steel spire]

[bleak ivy]

acro is on the other tree tho xd

[spring socket]

yeah

[bleak ivy]

u can put it but u might have to lose tea and vigor?

which are very useful

[junior aurora]

ima keep it a buck dawg

[bleak ivy]

dont play acro

[junior aurora]

might want to get used to having short arms

[spring socket]

yeah i miss it

[junior aurora]

go cold turkey and forget it exists

[spring socket]

but i know its their teasing me

like my wife

[steel spire]

and your gona like it dammit

[raw token]

someone can tell me if the hotfixe of today is bad ?

[broken ibex]

I’m sure this is a basic question - but is there a reason in logs I see DeathMark+Pot or Dance+KB simultaneously used, where mine seems slightly staggered? My macros are working, but both abilities aren’t insta. Spell queue maybe?

[junior aurora]

its nothing

[steel spire]

Yea hotfix giga nerf gg no more changes will be needed now

Sin balanced

[bleak ivy]

whhy yall macro that stuff

[jovial verge]

The pot one is fairly common across like every class in that game that wants to use its pot with its major damage CD

[abstract jacinth]

Why press two button when you can press one

[jovial verge]

the other is because in raid you only ever cast SD and KB together

[bleak ivy]

causse the one button bound into 2 fucks up most the time

[jovial verge]

How so?

[abstract jacinth]

.. how? Dance is off the gcd and so is pot

[bright torrent]

Are you pressing the right buttons?

[bleak ivy]

what do you mean?

[bright torrent]

Do you have the key on your keyboard

[junior aurora]

it can fuck up if you’re on a gcd when you press it

[bright torrent]

Because I don't think I've ever had my macros fuck up

[junior aurora]

but you just gotta be mindful of that

[thorn fjord]

We’re not clicking hot bars no more?

[strange python]

If you seriously mash keys - there's potential for it to mess up. But I've never had my dance/kb macro mess up.

[keen spruce]

so you're probably hitting your dance/kb macro while still in a GCD. so the dance goes off the KB doesn't

[junior aurora]

spellbook gaming

[steel spire]

We type in this household

[bright torrent]

I got all my buttons on my mouse

[steel spire]

[bright torrent]

Foot pedals for macros

[bleak ivy]

there was a paladin doing 30+ by clicking hotbars last patch I think

[bright torrent]

Vr headset for camera moving

[thorn fjord]

Gotten your KB parried yet?

[steel spire]

Foot pedal enjoyers rise up

[thorn fjord]

That was a holy Pali and that man is CRACKED

[keen spruce]

no i'm too paranoid to get caught out like that

[bleak ivy]

I think it was prot?

[keen spruce]

I even stand behind iridikron in Fall

[thorn fjord]

lol

[bleak ivy]

so we standing behind dragons?

[steel spire]

No shot it can be

[keen spruce]

oh it can

[thorn fjord]

I WILL NOT BE PARRIED BY THE LIKES OF YOU

[lofty junco]

btw is there any scenario where u would have to switch to outlaw for m+?

[thorn fjord]

It can bro

[keen spruce]

but it ain't gonna happen to me

[hot plume]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[delicate trench]

this can happen ?

[thorn fjord]

If you’re playing sub with 2p or higher

[steel spire]

Bet friendship with kb over

[bleak ivy]

my dagger skill at 50 rn

[keen spruce]

if Zac like found out where I lived and came in to my room with a gun to my head

[thorn fjord]

Yep

[steel spire]

Sbs is new bff

[thorn fjord]

A blunderbuss you could say

[bright torrent]

Oh yeah

I did my first mythic dungeons today

[lofty junco]

obviously asking as a assa not sub in the assa channel^^

[bleak ivy]

if you're a drummer in a band is one

[bright torrent]

The game be fun af

[thorn fjord]

Hey information is a valuable thing

[bright torrent]

Idk why I didn't pick it up sooner

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

It really do be

[thin patio]

Anyone is managing to meld stealth in M+ ? I get insta combat

[bleak ivy]

Someone said doesnt work in boss fights

[steel spire]

I can, have to be fast with it

[keen spruce]

meld/stealthing is as unreliable as night elfs are ugly

[steel spire]

Boss nope

[thin patio]

For boss fight ofc

[keen spruce]

[thin patio]

But i meant trash

I'm spamming the macro

[bleak ivy]

it's as unreliable as 80% of rogue shit

[thin patio]

Refund

[bleak ivy]

💀

[royal lantern]

you mean with a gun bettwen your eyes

[bleak ivy]

theres a random guild 7/9 on raid

[thorn fjord]

Could just be a pistol shot

[strange python]

What guild is 7/9?

[bleak ivy]

Instant Dollars

[jovial verge]

They are 6/9

[bleak ivy]

check it again

[strange python]

Why are they "random guild"

[bleak ivy]

says 7/9

[jovial verge]

I am looking at it right now

[thorn fjord]

Theyre not liquid echo or method

[jovial verge]

They have only pulled smolderon once

[bleak ivy]

you heard of them before?

[strange python]

yeah?

[keen spruce]

is Instant Dollars a "random" guild now

[jovial verge]

They are pretty well known for pushing early mythic bosses

[bleak ivy]

Idk I only watch the ones that officialy stream

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/backing-you-get-yours-danny-devito-danny-devito-gif-13052176

[copper hazel]

The Alpine of the WoW raiding world

[jovial verge]

Haha

[keen spruce]

ID some of the best players in the world

that don't want to go FULL rwf degen

[bleak ivy]

Any one on instant dollars that stream?

i wanna check it out

[jovial verge]

Yeah quite a few of the players do iirc

I think Raider.IO keeps a tab where you can check all players from a guild who stream

[bleak ivy]

oh 3 guys streamingg it says

[keen spruce]

Hopefulx

[solar bramble]

exhibit a

[feral mason]

i mean they are na

[keen spruce]

is a mage that plays for em

[feral mason]

so i doubt they are awake rn

or just waking up

maybe

[solar bramble]

shows galakronds fall . . but when hovered over. shows murazond rise

[bleak ivy]

I mean their mage streaming rn

[feral mason]

ye he prob just woke up doing keys

doubt they’re raiding currently

[keen spruce]

hopefulx isn't streaming rn

[bleak ivy]

nun too crazy sin just topping we eating good

[keen spruce]

i'd be surprised if any of them are awake

[bleak ivy]

what time is it in USA

[keen spruce]

5:30am on the west coast

[strange python]

8:30 on east coast

[bleak ivy]

Oh

[keen spruce]

8:30am east

[broken ibex]

Ah gotcha. Thank you!

[bleak ivy]

Oh it's very early for them rn guess ill just check it later

[lofty junco]

they have a shadow. already tells u everything

[jovial verge]

Instant Dollars pulled Smolderon once and it was insta buffed by 30% HP

[lofty junco]

[feral mason]

hope all the assas dont get too excited

[jovial verge]

quite funny

[feral mason]

Being powerful early in the tier is usually not a good sign

[solar bramble]

it's a 12. doesn't matter

[lofty junco]

u mean like...havoc

[uncut echo]

Vault time.

[feral mason]

blizz is a bit overeager with nerfing stuff sometimes before people get their gear

[bleak ivy]

Museum piece

[uncut echo]

[feral mason]

[solar bramble]

well the one that likely needs the nerf is bm hunter more than assass

[keen spruce]

I mean

[feral mason]

assa has the luck of scaling better at least

[keen spruce]

blizz nerfs assas

[feral mason]

but like

[keen spruce]

and I still play assas

[bleak ivy]

bro thinks were powerfull look aat havoc

[keen spruce]

why not get excited while it's good

[solar bramble]

in raid we do better than havoc i'm pretty sure

[feral mason]

“we”

[solar bramble]

if not it's close

[lofty junco]

as long as the gameplay stays won't move away from assa

[keen spruce]

havoc are dirty padders

[feral mason]

get yo fotm ass outta here gangy

[bleak ivy]

we're

fotm is havoc lil bro if you dont even know your fucking terms dont spaz out lmao

[keen spruce]

they do like 1m burst in AoE then like 80k on a boss

[clever niche]

We dooming already?

[bleak ivy]

nah

[foggy terrace]

whats the stat prio for assa on m+ atm any1 knows? maste>crit=haste>vers?

[bleak ivy]

sim

[lofty junco]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[steel spire]

haste prio is

[keen spruce]

this is gud

i take

[cunning basin]

Yoink

[flint tusk]

need the code for that so i can macro it

[strange python]

vers may even be above haste for m+

[uncut echo]

I think it's a remark to all the fotm rerollers

[feral mason]

seeing the “what spec is performing the best right now” giving me a bit of a disliking of all these leaf mfs

[flint tusk]

anyone who thinks currently spec power is any way what it'll look like when people have leveled out their ilvl and have 4 set are delusional

[feral mason]

1000x a day

[lofty junco]

augvokers

[uncut echo]

Spec channels

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[flint tusk]

when you have some specs getting 15% increase from T30 4set to T31 4set and others who actually lose

[uncut echo]

[feral mason]

nah #wow-general is the worst

[uncut echo]

Anything but OT

[feral mason]

1/3 messages is “what is meta rn” i swear

[uncut echo]

[bleak ivy]

tell them to fuck off to demon hunter discord then

[flint tusk]

i wonder if there is a way of putting like a week delay on someone joining to someone being able to type xD

[uncut echo]

There is.

But why would they do that?

[lofty junco]

what ilvl should i ahve before going normal?

[wind estuary]

quick nub question , are you supposed to swap between amp poison and insta poison in M+

[flint tusk]

guess it depends how annoying constantly answering the same questions that guides already cover is

[steel spire]

440?

[grave depot]

normal is a joke

[uncut echo]

445 steamrolls it

[lofty junco]

yeah but u know the pugs^^

[steel spire]

normal is friend runs

[uncut echo]

Welcome to spec channels ad nauseam

[lofty junco]

kk 9 more then^^

[gusty mirage]

No

[uncut echo]

No

[gusty mirage]

Too slow nerd

[uncut echo]

Sit rat

[strange python]

[lofty junco]

i remember that time when in SoO wound poison was stronger then deathly

[wind estuary]

thanks , only answer I saw tbh

[lofty junco]

[feral mason]

i hope you gangplank w yourself today

[gusty mirage]

Colossus smash deez

[feral mason]

eat healthy to avoid scurvy

[gusty mirage]

Fucking bozo warrior

[flint tusk]

L Bozo get better internet

[lofty junco]

[thin radish]

in aoe packs, is there any waste in garroting the same target from stealth? Or should I try to swap to a non-garroted target after the first garrote?

[gusty mirage]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[bleak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-23663947

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/referee-penalty-flag-on-the-gif-11566366

[feral mason]

why am i just seeing grey squares

For last 4 images

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-driving-driver-they-see-me-rollin-gif-18269195

[feral mason]

these last ones are loading

[gusty mirage]

Warrior mains smh

[feral mason]

am i missing smth

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[bleak ivy]

causee half are screenshots and half are gifs