assassination

[hardy dagger]

Dunno it seems like you could make a very good argument for playing all three specs this tier

[spice spire]

Snapshotted = fall off.
Normal rupture = pandemic is fine

[hardy dagger]

First boss kinda whatever ig all three could be good, second boss seems like an outlaw fight

[thorn fjord]

I’m a sucker for flag

[cloud venture]

is there a point why we do ambush and not muti in kb window? except from we are in. does ambush more damage?

[thorn fjord]

Yes

[cloud venture]

does it more damage?

[thorn fjord]

It does

[cloud venture]

because my stelh bar doesnt change muti to ambush

[manic quartz]

ambush = more dmg, mutilate = possibly more poison procs, difference is minimal

[cloud venture]

and i dont know why 😄

[thorn fjord]

It’ll change for bs procs

[cloud venture]

y

but not in normal stelth

[thorn fjord]

Just put ambush where your mutilate is

On your stealth bar

[manic quartz]

i use this /cast [nostance:0]Ambush; Mutilate

[thorn fjord]

And you should be good

[cloud venture]

ty i l try

[cloud venture]

worked ty 😍

[shell wind]

Is assassination good for me as new rogue and im going to play m+, raid and pvp. Would be nice to play same but obv with different talents depending on content?

[thorn fjord]

Wow head guide has a nice breakdown

Link in pins

All 3 specs are viable stm

[spice spire]

What dieslow said

[thorn fjord]

Play whatever appeals to you the most

[distant birch]

If you are a "new rogue" and you are looking how to play Assa you should just check this content https://www.youtube.com/@whispyr5793

Moreover, you have wowhead too

[spice spire]

Plug

[oak tangle]

i don't know how the new sub plays, but i'd say it's probably the most noob friendly

[gleaming geyser]

This applies to 99% of players regardless of their class, too 😵

[gilded oasis]

that guys stinks he sandbags stinker

[distant birch]

Raceeeeeee

[spice spire]

I’m gonna sandbag you if you sass my goat again

Swear to god

[gilded oasis]

[oak tangle]

some will call sin simple, and it kinda is, but you need to have some base knowledge of the spec for that

[spice spire]

It’s less simple these days. But it’s still fairly.

[gilded oasis]

my opener not feelin simple

[spice spire]

That’s a krill issue bozo

[gilded oasis]

cant wait to get a mechanic 8 seconds in

[spice spire]

It’s Terros all over again

[gilded oasis]

[manic quartz]

dont worry its me

[subtle kiln]

just call for raid wipe like we did for our UH if that happened

[oak tangle]

yeah but i mean more like, understanding pandemic, pre planning your cd's and not letting dots drop by just sorta knowing when to cas things

can be hard for new people used to just slapping buttons

[manic quartz]

warriors 🤔

[thorn fjord]

Except feral players obv

They’re the 1%

[hardy dagger]

Outlaw is can be quite forgiving in the sense that their aoe comes down to pressing blade flurry

[oak tangle]

do i stay up the 2 more hours to see what patch holds and sleep through the day later. or go to bed now, not fall asleep for hours and still sleep through the day, but wake up a bit earlier

[brazen zodiac]

sleep now

[gilded oasis]

bedge now get up later

[desert inlet]

but it's also unforgiving because what if you forget to press blade flurry

[gilded oasis]

gonna extendo at least once for sure

[brazen zodiac]

server probably won't be up until way later anyways so get your 5 hours of gamer sleep

[oak tangle]

oh i'll probs get a full 8 in

[surreal citrus]

implying the server will come up at the scheduled time

[thorn fjord]

Naaah I think it’ll be up sooner than they said tbh

[oak tangle]

it's just i won't fall asleep till im tired

[brazen zodiac]

Implying the server comes up at all

[thorn fjord]

Last tier they came up early

[glacial shuttle]

I literally cannot fall asleep rn and I dont know why

[brazen zodiac]

WOW secretly shuts down forever

[hardy dagger]

[glacial shuttle]

Playing my favourite best hits of every regret I've made in the past 3 years

[oak tangle]

undiagnosed insomniac

[surreal citrus]

slice and dice not falling off during bf is so good
I will never not press bf

[thorn fjord]

So creed?

Hold me now!

[glacial shuttle]

Wot

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/creed-creedonbag-sing-perform-gif-7956939

[spice spire]

Ur a hater and I greatly respect it

[eternal heath]

Guys I'm DOOMING

[crisp grotto]

Did I wake up in a fever dream where I was actually given PI

[thorn fjord]

Welcome home brother

[eternal heath]

You've entered gamer hours

[sweet dawn]

I'm looking at the augvokers in my team say "Assa looks like best target to buff for us"

[crisp grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/265880746537779200/775798955912855592/kneel2.gif

[sweet dawn]

Got me like

https://tenor.com/view/fma-roy-mustang-mustang-roy-sad-gif-12080741

[fleet pagoda]

spriest PI though they gonna hold theirs to line up with DM or you losin it halfway through DM?

[chilly viper]

How could I add a plater setting that turns the nameplate's mob with caustic spatter on to another color

[crisp grotto]

When I heard PI + Aug in the same sentence for Assassination I knew we had to downplay how good our spec was

[crisp grotto]

Idk I don’t really trust this shadow priest either to PI me efficiently LOL

[thorn fjord]

Externals are a crutch

Trust

[wicked vapor]

Just get the wa that yells at you 🤷🏻‍♂️

[desert inlet]

but what if I forget to get the WA

[wicked vapor]

Then you’re living care free!

[desert inlet]

[gusty mirage]

:bootsemote1:

[manic quartz]

[desert inlet]

I will post a boots picture for u

after I done cooking

[slim hamlet]

[slim hamlet]

[thorn fjord]

Dick feet

Gotta love it

[gusty mirage]

[slim hamlet]

I read that as dick feet for a second¨... oh

[cunning basin]

LMAO

[thorn fjord]

You read right

[cunning basin]

Well you see..

[strange python]

Jesus almighty. WTF am I looking at.

[glacial kelp]

Hey Guys can someone tell me why Assa get so much value from WFT next Tier ?

[strange python]

Nearly closed my shit, thought it was NSFW

[manic quartz]

could be something to do with KB

[strange python]

Can the wf hits apply poison maybe

[gusty mirage]

they can

[strange python]

If so, then you’re most likely correct

Yeah

Plus amplifying right. That adds up

[glacial kelp]

aight thx

[grand trail]

hm

if we desparete for acro we drop tea?

[flint tusk]

Naa if you're desperate for acro you get good. 😛

[strange python]

Man I’d try to get used to it

In m+ I can see your desire though

[grand trail]

i did play nymue withnout acro

[flint tusk]

but yeh i believe getting rid of Tea was the next thing

[grand trail]

but would help there

[abstract needle]

assasination is viable on wotlk? i only see combat rogues and tbh i really wanna try assassination

[thorn fjord]

#classic-discussion

[rotund oak]

meanwhile on max's stream he gets a massage from a dude before raid and the man flexes his tattoo's

😄

pre-RWF content

[thorn fjord]

I was fortunate to be able to get tatted while out at blizzcon

And no not those stupid diablo tattoos lol

[keen reef]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[outer cairn]

What's up with them sausages Charlie?

[lament igloo]

hello, is there any way, apart from macro, to use ambush and mutilate on the same button?

[outer cairn]

you don't need to

[thorn fjord]

It’s baked in to the game now

[hallow sonnet]

Whatcha get?

[outer cairn]

put ambush on your stealth bar and mutilate on your other bar. hitting mutilate when blindside procs automatically uses ambush now

[steady glen]

does it work same as outlaw HO?

[lament igloo]

by now u mean with new ID ?

[manic quartz]

saw my chance to promote Troll supremacy

[thorn fjord]

Old guildy has been tattooing for a long time now.. went to Long Beach and had him draw me up a dagger through a skull

[outer cairn]

You gotta pay the troll toll if you want this boy's soul

[hallow sonnet]

Neat!

[outer cairn]

went with the FoF daggers insteads of the KB ones

tsk tsk

[blazing jewel]

I have to give you the girl I go to in Miami

[thorn fjord]

🤣

[thorn fjord]

Anime girl?

She’s really really good

[blazing jewel]

Nono my tattoo artist

[thorn fjord]

Dm me her IG

I’ll show you the one I’m talking about

Her names Andy Cordero

[blazing jewel]

She did this for $250

[thorn fjord]

Damn that’s sick for $250

[outer cairn]

that's a nice piece for only $250

[pliant nest]

do we ambush or mutilate inside dance (assuming no blindside proc)?

[outer cairn]

my memento mori was more than that

[thorn fjord]

Ambush

[outer cairn]

but looks great

[pliant nest]

ty!

[thorn fjord]

Yeah that’s solid work @blazing jewel

[gusty mirage]

dang

mine was also $250

well it was $175, I tipped him $75 cause I've known him since I was 14

[outer cairn]

what's more important is he's driving a manual

and not an automatic

[keen reef]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[thorn fjord]

I didn’t pay for mine out in Long Beach but I tipped him well

[naive crane]

hey guys, any modify macros for ambush in normal bars?

[rotund oak]

i might be wrong but judging from ur hand i would age u about 28-32.Am i remotely close? 😛

[blazing jewel]

What the

[thorn fjord]

It’s baked in

[naive crane]

wdym

[gusty mirage]

for blindside procs, yes

[thorn fjord]

If you press mutilate with Bs up it’ll ambush @naive crane

[blazing jewel]

@thorn fjord we need to get Oxi covered in tattoos

[thorn fjord]

Hell yeah

[gusty mirage]

lol

[thorn fjord]

Needs a face Tat

[gusty mirage]

can't

[blazing jewel]

A knife under his eye or something

[outer cairn]

a tear

[runic hinge]

Tear drops

[outer cairn]

for killing ppl

[thorn fjord]

Icecream cone to the left of his left eye

[silk bane]

imagine rolling up to the court, about to lose your case? pull out 2 sleeves like your honor as u can see, im based af. case dismissed

[gusty mirage]

no face, feet, or below the elbow tats

best I can do is half sleeve

[strange python]

So to ambush in dance, we just make sure ambush is in our same spot as mut right, but in our stealth bar?

[blazing jewel]

Gucci mane is that you

[strange python]

Like the stealth bar comes up during dance

[hushed barn]

speaking of ambush/mutilate, i was having some issues during the opnener when subterfuge is dropping off after the nighstalker rupture, I go to cast mutilate/ambush to go into SnD, but subterfuge dropping cancels my cast as the spells swap, is there a way to get around this?

[outer cairn]

marine or teacher?

[thorn fjord]

He died in jail... This gucci is a clone

[runic hinge]

Okay so armpit and throat are in

[gusty mirage]

religious reasons, but lawyer as well

[gusty mirage]

armpit and throat are kosher yes

[naive crane]

yea i know but ive put ambush in my stealh bar and sometimes a have the problem when stealth is droped

[outer cairn]

tat in the armpit

[thorn fjord]

so you can still get chest work tho

[outer cairn]

sheesh

[gusty mirage]

considering my tattoo is right up to my collarbone, yes

[thorn fjord]

Oh damn what you got on there

[outer cairn]

ugh. when mine was doing the butterfly on my collarbone

i could feel that shit in my neck

[strange python]

Imma just keep hitting mutilate

[gusty mirage]

ask stealthi or scana they've seen it

(:

[silk bane]

gasps. what about me >:C

[blazing jewel]

My whole arm fell asleep when I was getting the one on my forearm done. I just felt buzzing in my fingertips and shoulder when she was going over the tendons

[gusty mirage]

I'd love a full sleeve

[manic quartz]

i got an tattoo of an marionette heart on my arm but if you hide part of it and look it at sideways it looks like veined dick xD

[gusty mirage]

but no esta bueno

[strange python]

I got one tattoo on my back. Never again. Shit hurt like crazy.

[gusty mirage]

dm me I'll try to find it

[outer cairn]

my first tat on my righ tarm, the dude was laying on my arm and it went dead numb

my newest

[thorn fjord]

Me too broo wtf

[thorn fjord]

That line work is on point boiii

[outer cairn]

Dude was like really taking his time and i was getting the point and he's like its the different between a good tattoo and a fucking great tattoo

[gusty mirage]

imagine replying to the message and not following instructions, wild

[thorn fjord]

There i followed instructions

[blazing jewel]

How do we get whispyr tattooed

[outer cairn]

through his gf

[blazing jewel]

He needs a mushroom game one

[thorn fjord]

Tequila

[hushed barn]

can someone help me with my question?

[earnest remnant]

so here is the plan, i have a tattoo gun, we get him piss drunk and i draw on him while he is passed out

[blazing jewel]

Bind ambush/mut separately

[blazing jewel]

Get some green ink

And write .01%

He’s always been a sim number chaser

[hallow sonnet]

Give him some zzz's, since he doesn't seem to get those elsewhere

[candid geyser]

Tattoo a on him.

[wide ferry]

https://youtu.be/rcLWQ0pfHCg?si=h2fzvoxRIa_bk067

[outer cairn]

you can tell how sleepy he is based on the enthusiasm in his "hiya"

[real solar]

@gusty mirage

3 days in a row

i’m still here

[old jewel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

[raven echo]

okay weird question, does anyone overperform compared to their sim on st? my sim says 89k unbuffed and I do around 108k

simmed both nightly and latest

[gilded oasis]

@real solar Hi

[real solar]

HI

[gilded oasis]

mines on my back but lower. wasn't too bad. Most uncomfortable was when it hit my spine but it was more funny feeling all the way up my spine lol

[gilded oasis]

go back to sub you stinker

[real solar]

??????

[arctic hare]

I.... hmm.

[spice surge]

How rude

[gilded oasis]

blue name stinker stinky stinky

[wide ferry]

2 piece tier set is essentially an endless 12% attack speed and nature damage buff? Or am i a dumbass (dont answer that)

[real solar]

@gusty mirage im being bullied

[thorn fjord]

Snitch

[ivory kernel]

does anyone know where i can find a spread of the damage profiles for like sin sub and outlaw with 4 set

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/help-repressed-panic-dance-medieval-gif-16574758

[tall rose]

Do we break our 4 set from season 2 to get 2 pieces from season 3, or is it just ilvl now even without using tier?

[gilded oasis]

you know its all filled with endless love

cmon I named dropped you at BlizzCon

Ivan clout

[real solar]

yes

[spice spire]

Why are you such a hater today Zar

[outer cairn]

back to work and jpc is live. would rather watch his server screen then work today lol

[real solar]

as soon as u get 2 pc

[gilded oasis]

brother I always drink my haterade

[real solar]

I’ve been zar’s best rogue friend since 2017

[tall rose]

ok, So do we break 4 piece before then for a Higher Ilvl upgrade?

[real solar]

And all she does is bully me

[spice spire]

You went hard today big dog

Illegal bullying

[gilded oasis]

ya cause you forget about me until you want cookies

[real solar]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/tier-set-bonuses

[thorn fjord]

Yeah... Also would be a good idea to just sim yourself

[real solar]

I ATE THEM ALL 2 YRS AGO IN 1 SITTING

[gusty mirage]

stop bullying my bff

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[low quartz]

holy shit

[tall rose]

I do and it says to go higher ilvl. Just through it would be weird to break up a tier set for higher ilvl

[gilded oasis]

Ill stop bully if you show me tattoo

[real solar]

OXI IM GOING BACK TO OUTLAW CHANNEL IF ZAR KEEPS BULLY

[gusty mirage]

[gilded oasis]

I think you want to keep 2pc tho

[low quartz]

ive been SLEEEEEEPING on how op deathmark/kb is in aoe with caustic splatter - SO good

[thorn fjord]

Gotta jump in his DM's like i did

[gusty mirage]

only break up 4pc for new 2pc

[arctic hare]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

so hold onto any higher ilvl pieces you get

[tall rose]

Ty

[gusty mirage]

catalyst also opens up next week iirc

[thorn fjord]

This week

[real solar]

As soon as you get 2 or 4 pieces of the new set, you will want to equip those with a priority over the old set bonuses. This is regardless of item level, as the new bonuses are simply better than the previous ones.
Replace the old 4 set (Poisoned Edges 4pc) as soon as you have access to the new 2 set (Natureblight)
Replace the old 2 set (Poisoned Edges 2pc) as soon as you have access to the new 4 set (Envenomous Explosion)

[gusty mirage]

neat

[thorn fjord]

But you wanna wait till next week to use after your first vault

[gusty mirage]

so aotc + catalyst, if you get 2pc from raid you're bing chilling

[thorn fjord]

yuhh

[gusty mirage]

I thought catalyst was next week

[real solar]

next week is in 1.5 hrs

dw u’re right bb

[gusty mirage]

[real solar]

@gilded oasis

[thorn fjord]

Thats a nice lookin kitty

[gilded oasis]

so floof I want to pet

[spice spire]

Wrong channel friend

[gilded oasis]

I showed him the way

[real solar]

honestly @gusty mirage’s fault

[spice spire]

True

And bless up

[minor gate]

Give it to me straight guys

How are we doing

[spice spire]

We are seeding well brethren

[fallow acorn]

in the top 3 rogue specs right now, so pretty good

[thorn fjord]

Kinda tired

[glossy imp]

If you wanna be the best, play outlaw. If you wanna be cool, you know what to play 😎

[minor gate]

YES!!!!! wait….

[lucid rain]

frost mage?

[thorn fjord]

That took my brain a while to understand

[glossy imp]

No, you have to play irl

[lucid rain]

tfw my pun gets ignored

[silk bane]

L + ratio

[glossy imp]

Lmao very good

[silk bane]

• bozo

[devout prism]

Any particular M+ dungeons to target for loot? Other than Nick of time

[lucid rain]

everbloom for trinket

the wowhead guide has all the items you need and the dungeons they're in 🎉

[thorn fjord]

We branchin boiz

[devout prism]

Thanks 🙏 didn't see that part of the guide

[gilded oasis]

dont wanna

[silk bane]

cant wait to spam everbloom and doti

[flint tusk]

oh no

[silk bane]

what a banger timeline

[flint tusk]

we're done for

[keen spruce]

Okay what changed in the last 5 hours

[thorn fjord]

Our opener

[blazing jewel]

[flint tusk]

5 minutes ago wowhead posted the dps stack

we're top 5

get ready boys

it's been fun

[keen spruce]

[real solar]

🥲

[night delta]

https://tenor.com/view/nerf-fun-nerf-gun-3d-surprise-gif-16828743

damn no whispyr cheat sheet

[devout prism]

Is the Everbloom trinket like the Ordinance trinket from SL where you could delay the orbs travelling into you to time the mastery buff for an exact time?

[keen spruce]

That was like 14 hours ago and then reverted like 9 hours ago. Or did it change again in the last 5?

[spice spire]

@night delta

[keen spruce]

[strange python]

I’m just glad leeching poison was fixed.

[gilded oasis]

reverted?

[flint tusk]

garrote ambush rupture now

[thorn fjord]

It’s still changed

[gilded oasis]

im just gonna roll face on keyboard

[keen spruce]

Okay I was awake for that

[flint tusk]

then go to sleep damnit

raid isn't even out yet

[keen spruce]

I just woke up

U get up before servers so you can caffeinate and poop

[strange python]

Did they delay anything? Stuck at work and looking to leave asap

[flint tusk]

time waste

[thorn fjord]

Doesn’t look like it

[subtle kiln]

nerf BM

[flint tusk]

caffine IV and put hole in chair to poop

come on man
amateur

[thorn fjord]

Delete evoker

[gilded oasis]

wont know for another hour prob

45 min

[night delta]

gotta love that the strongest ST build without branch is 15th

[subtle kiln]

just watch max. he’ll know before anyone else

[thorn fjord]

Surely

Max just sitting looking at the server list

[subtle kiln]

one eye on server list. one eye on private discord with devs

[strange python]

Lol

[flint tusk]

yeh begging for half his raiders renown to be put back to 20 arguing cleaver use of game exploits

[thorn fjord]

They should have been banned

Fuck that

[flint tusk]

facts

[thorn fjord]

I’m getting branch before raid tonight

Surely

[flint tusk]

same as nicking of timing

[deft vault]

What point do we drop in the single target build if we want ct

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[strange python]

whispyr WA are updated to 10.2 right?

[thorn fjord]

Anyone have the post for whatever bug fixes happened yesterday

It was that just apl related

[slate crown]

Yes

[analog mica]

IC doesnt break stealth right?

[flint tusk]

huh?

[analog mica]

o wait its a passive

now

[flint tusk]

yeh xD

lasts 10 seconds after coming out of stealth

[viral spire]

!whispyrr

[spice spire]

No sheet

[viral spire]

!whispyr

fk me

WHERE SIM STUFF

[slim hamlet]

!whispyr

[visual shuttle]

Are top guilds rogues going to play assas for tonight?

[fallow acorn]

just the good looking ones

[slim hamlet]

idk ask them

[viral spire]

assass is always the safer option to prog

[slim hamlet]

[visual shuttle]

True that

[strange python]

[night delta]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[visual shuttle]

Just thought outlaw was going to be the to go spec

[slim hamlet]

I think all 3 specs will be played

on actual prog

[night delta]

don't see top guilds rushing in straight in MM day 1, with the higher ilvl gap this time around

so it'll probably be NM / HM bosses for set farm, which honestly should be enough of a walk in the park to play whatever

[olive robin]

Hey, anything worth putting in macro together apart from Dance -> KB and Deathmark + trinkets?

[thorn fjord]

Dont worry @night delta We'll beta test the hell out of day 1 for you

[slim hamlet]

Please actually beta test this time

I cba logging on EU and it still being bugged

[flint tusk]

trust NA to do something properly?

trolling surely

[slim hamlet]

true

[thorn fjord]

can add your pot to the DM macro as well

[olive robin]

nah, pot is something I need manual control of

but nothing else rotation wise i assume?

[night delta]

just put a pot button also

[thorn fjord]

Not really

[night delta]

we gained 1 key with the BS changes

[slim hamlet]

• IC + Exsang

[olive robin]

Okay, thanks
back to setting up keys

cheers

[night delta]

Takes a bit to be accustomed to sanguine blades in AoE. Refreshing CT without making sure you other bleeds are also maintained beforehand can kill your momentum

[still creek]

KB snapshots properly when macroed with SD?

[thorn fjord]

yep

Make sure SD is before KB in the macro tho

[placid rock]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[slate crown]

Which dungeon are you all spamming first, bloom or doti?

or just whatever you can get

[thorn fjord]

Everbloom

[keen spruce]

need daggie

[slate crown]

Hrm conflicting answers

[storm forum]

Whichever is offered to me, pref trinket at lower ilvl track probably though

[keen spruce]

just don't do low ilvl track

[thorn fjord]

I'll have an 8 to start with

[storm forum]

Or rather, I think trinket will be better than dagger at a lower ilvl track

[thorn fjord]

Most of the guildies are around the same

[runic hinge]

Keys dropping 11?

[thorn fjord]

yeah

[night delta]

you can craft an early high ilvl dagger and MH DPS is highly important

[storm forum]

Some of my guild's got a 25 last week, starting from 13 should be alright

[night delta]

I would spam the dungeon that gives out the trinket imo

[thorn fjord]

yeah thats the plan

[runic hinge]

I shoulda forced my guildies into at least a 23

they didnt wanna do higher than 21

[keen spruce]

ye but if you get a daggie you save a spark

[night delta]

can't you toxic patch the dagger ?

[runic hinge]

No

[night delta]

ah damn

[storm forum]

I don't think so

[keen spruce]

dagger is not made of leather

[thorn fjord]

That would be so sick

But yeah no go

Patch going on bracers now i believe

[storm forum]

Handlewrap could have been made with leather, not enough for a patch though

[night delta]

that would've been my guess too

[thorn fjord]

I dont have crafted bracers... Had patch on helm S2

[storm forum]

Patch going on whatever piece of gear I have shittier ilvl in a couple weeks

[keen spruce]

yeah patch is low priority

[slate crown]

Yeah simply put you cannot get a branch out of crafting

[keen spruce]

can be scooted around

[slate crown]

But I can max craft a dagger, and daggers can stores tastey treats in them

[storm forum]

Btw how does the helm thing work? Is that a nontier item? Or is it like an enchant I can put on tier?

I forgor

[thorn fjord]

Non tier

Crafted helm

Then you put the patch emb on it

[runic hinge]

I'm getting a hero track daggie this week and myth track outta first vault

[storm forum]

Rip

[junior aurora]

sorry my dagger will cut thru time

no time for all that storage

[slim pebble]

I haven't looted a weapon out of the vault in all of DF so my odds are looking good for sure

[keen spruce]

yo same

[night delta]

it's an embelish ?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

no no they're askin about

[night delta]

damned

[keen spruce]

the raid drop thing

for helmet

[thorn fjord]

Oh

[night delta]

and there I though there was something cool

[storm forum]

Oh no not accidental misinformation

[thorn fjord]

Might not be talking about the same thing

mb

[keen spruce]

pause

[night delta]

so the new raid thing IS a helm enchant ?

[terse orchid]

What new raid thing

[night delta]

drop on boss 1

[storm forum]

First(?) Boss drops a thing for a helm but idk how it works

[night delta]

supposedly a bonus drop with 100% chance question mark ?

[plucky canopy]

am i understand this right:
"Lethal Dose should no longer cause Crimson Tempest, Serrated Bone Spike, or Mutilated Flesh (from Doomblade) to benefit, but not contribute from its effect."
So CT, SBS and MF did benefit from the dmg amp but did not contribute to the "each" part of Lethal dose?

[night delta]

though that might've been PTR shenanigans

[plucky canopy]

and now it does contributes

[storm forum]

We get patchnotes?

[night delta]

well, I guess then yeah

[raven egret]

Yo, happy season start day

[plucky canopy]

need to sleep one more time 😦

[night delta]

was that taken into account in sims ? that they did not contribute ?

because if so, then that means new sims time

[raven egret]

what, the helmet enchant?

we'll get it by week 5 or so iirc

[night delta]

+4% bleed & poison damage with DB + SBS, might not shake up much but at least bump them up a bit

[spiral salmon]

Question:
Dragon Tempered blades says "has 30% less application chance"

Is it a flat 30% or is it just 30% of your overall application chance?

[night delta]

30% of overall

[spiral salmon]

I'd guess it's the latter since other makes deadly have 0%

yea ok

makes sense

[night delta]

else you'd be getting actually less poison procs with DTB* than without

[spiral salmon]

yea it'd be awful

ok makes sense

thanks

[strange python]

No bug fix wowhead post 😦

[storm forum]

It's ok, we're only doomed

Nothing a little arson and blood sacrifice can't solve

[spice spire]

[night delta]

anyone know if that Lethal Dose bug, supposedly now fixed, was taken into account in sims ?

[wet briar]

sorry this has probably been asked 1000 times but what are the most important things to track? new to sin

[night delta]

I wanna cope about SBS being maybe not shit

[flint tusk]

SBS is shit

[thorn fjord]

I’d prefer sepsis again

Sbs is lame

[spiral salmon]

SBS is the best.

[blazing jewel]

sepsis and dance together was demonic gameplay

[manic quartz]

read the wowhead guide or watch whispyrs videos, pretty good explanations there

[thorn fjord]

Yeah seems like it would be weird

[night delta]

tbh it's really fun in world pvp

[thorn fjord]

Garrotes everywhere

[blazing jewel]

world pvp

[night delta]

just gotta send everything and keep in melee and watch them melt away

[blazing jewel]

aint no way you said that

[devout prism]

Y'all enjoy Assassination in M+ last week?

[clever niche]

Improved garrote uptime tho

[flint tusk]

i mean preseason sure when everyone is missing 13 ilvl xD

[thorn fjord]

You didn’t blood stone farm in plains over the weekend?

[blazing jewel]

got renown 14 on my rogue

[thorn fjord]

I’m ready for the solo shuffle headache

[blazing jewel]

called it a day

splits rat druid is 10

[thorn fjord]

I’m sitting at 8 lol

[keen spruce]

well

idk about IB

i assume IB is fixed too

[slim pebble]

Servers up

[strange python]

Wait it is fixed? So just 2pc broken?

[plucky canopy]

sounds good

[flint tusk]

on live yes. on PTR it's fixed apparently

[blazing jewel]

servers up
time to get in dawn of the infinites pt1

[keen spruce]

servers up

[flint tusk]

maybe you'll get dagger drop

[blazing jewel]

[gusty mirage]

back to the mines we go

[blazing jewel]

shmeeps will get first knife

[thorn fjord]

Happy S3 everyone

[blazing jewel]

because he helped my guildy get a knife

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

I helped whispyr get his

[gusty mirage]

if thats the case @thorn fjord will get the first knife

[thorn fjord]

Does that tilt karma in my favor

[gusty mirage]

cause he helped me and whispyr get ours

[keen spruce]

I actually have never had one drop for my character

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

so i'm due for one

[thorn fjord]

Come to my office @keen spruce

[prisma cypress]

i still haven’t set foot in that dungeon

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/aoe2-mining-gif-19805735

[prisma cypress]

guess it’s time

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

Man jpc's music is fucking trash

[twin dirge]

i sow the seeds of chaos

[flint tusk]

standard

[thorn fjord]

Its like a 16 y/o HS girls fever dream

Damn he's playing sub

[twin dirge]

i mean poison go brrr

[terse orchid]

That explains the music then

[thorn fjord]

its so bad lol

[proven kindle]

good evening - does it matter much which posion I put on first (30% less aplication chance for the second one) - deadly or Amplyfing. Or is the differance too low to care

[fallen forge]

we basically ignore sanguine blades in single target right?

[earnest remnant]

who tried to yoink my name on NA, shame on you

[spice spire]

Me

[flint tusk]

key word. "tried"

[thorn fjord]

booo i got a dawn key but the wrong one

[raven echo]

stealthi liquid helper confirmed

[proven kindle]

pulling guide will answer this questnion and more. Quick answer - kinda, yeah, you are focusing on chaining envenoms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG0zGACDAuY&t=310s

[brazen sonnet]

Anyone know they fix bug with new 2p ?

[fallen forge]

tyty

[raven echo]

it's fixed on ptr

[keen spruce]

is this

the good one

or the bad one

[grand trail]

no rogue on echo 😄

[keen spruce]

[raven echo]

so also fixed for NA tomorrow for EU

[raven echo]

rogue ded delete char

[fringe oxide]

I thought you wre in the splits man!

[flint tusk]

yeh no rogue out of their whole roster of 1 character LUL

[raven echo]

they're keeping their secret weapon for real raid

[balmy condor]

My alarm was set too late

Wtf man

Why servers up

[flint tusk]

no you just slept through it

[raven echo]

servers up early

[flint tusk]

poor

[proven kindle]

my assa build is siming better than sub for aoe by quite a lot
I have some random gear from this week

[flint tusk]

stop

comparing

different

spec

sims

[proven kindle]

lol 😄 I did that for...I dont know - fun. Planning to play assa anyway

[raven echo]

@balmy condor while I catch you here got a question if you're free. Are there any problems with sin sims? my sims are significantly lower than my dps. It was like 89k unbuffed sim and 108k dummy. no buffs etc.

also simmed it both nightly and latest

[fallen forge]

can we equip two nick of times

[hexed willow]

But if I change the settings to 8 target for 10 minutes, outlaw is SO FAR AHEAD

[thorn fjord]

Nice JP playing sin now

[hexed willow]

Yes it’s bis

[raven echo]

yes

[fallen forge]

ight its farming time

[balmy condor]

I have a fix for that with the apl update today but generally it’s just chalked up to rng and random bullshit bug/not bug that’s in sims

Nothing to be concerned about

[raven echo]

oh ok wanted to check

thanks

[proven kindle]

outlaw is not a rogue (kiddin, just dont like this spec)

[cerulean nest]

damn im bis already

see ya guys

[night delta]

The bad one i think

[midnight mist]

as there been tuning changes recently on sin tset

[flint tusk]

Sadge Stealthi being put in Group 6

free our gamer

[woeful iris]

Without the tier set, should i priotise staying above 150 energy out of cooldowns?

[midnight mist]

or rather, what was the last tuning changes on sin test

[flint tusk]

no

[earnest remnant]

[thorn fjord]

hell yeah dude

Im so pumped

[fallow acorn]

everbloom grind o'clock

[raven echo]

gl

[earnest remnant]

its actually so annoying listening to the liquids comms and i keep hearing my name

[raven echo]

don't forget to sprinkle some doti in between

[grand trail]

james council build

if anyone interested

[midnight mist]

can you shroud bud

[silver escarp]

Quick question (someone is giving me doubt)
The timestrike on the dagger (or any weapon with it) works anywhere right?

[spice surge]

Yes

[limber lion]

Bad gg

[spice spire]

Yes

[raven echo]

yeah

no zone difference

[fallow acorn]

what does that do exactly

[visual shuttle]

Sin is big!

[raven echo]

does damage

[spice surge]

Its just a damage proc

[raven echo]

passive thing nothing to care about

[flint tusk]

see 3 rogues required for trash ski

[limber lion]

Oh the literal normal ST build we already recommend everywhere? :---)

[earnest remnant]

with IC

[limber lion]

Jk the IC pick is wild

[raven echo]

hmm spatter?

[grand trail]

nt buddy

[raven echo]

works if spikes are close enough I guess

[limber lion]

They're not

Idk what boss is what but I remember Whisbo saying that on one boss spatter too smol gg

[grand trail]

im not sure about IC tho

[quasi solar]

jp playing sin atm

[midnight mist]

igara I think right

[slim hamlet]

Thats igira

yea

[quasi solar]

whats going on they waiting for next tier?

[limber lion]

Could be

[slim hamlet]

Igira is cringe for sin

[grand trail]

depends on spear position

[raven echo]

yeah would preffer internal

[grand trail]

how is spatter range compared to BF with acro?

[limber lion]

I only know the worm boss

That's the only one I did

[slim hamlet]

spatter is 10

[limber lion]

Yup

[midnight mist]

well spatter is around boss tho right

[slim hamlet]

Yes

[midnight mist]

which is a massive difference

in some situations

[slim hamlet]

Indeed

That's why I wanted more range on spatter

[midnight mist]

and I couldnt tell you what bf range is ngl

[grand trail]

i was able to hit most of the spears on mythic with outlaw

[midnight mist]

its not insane tho

[slim hamlet]

I thought BF was just same as your range

[midnight mist]

its your range + a bit

idk how much a bit

[slim hamlet]

well then

[limber lion]

The r1 Outlaw onetrick theorycrafter god doesn't know bf range???

[slim hamlet]

U learn something new everyday

[limber lion]

:O

[midnight mist]

eh

why do I need to know this useless information

any knowers in the chat

[slim hamlet]

Well at least it works with acro

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[limber lion]

So you can flex your knowledge

[midnight mist]

I would rather say it doesnt work without acro

idk if you ever tried pressing bf without acro as outlaw

its not great

I htink its melee + 1 or 2

[limber lion]

Last time I dabbled in Outlaw was 9.2

[midnight mist]

well bf range was also bigger in bfa

[slim hamlet]

I have never tried outlaw without acro so yea

[limber lion]

9 is Shadowlands

[midnight mist]

ok

well

[limber lion]

I kinda just enjoyed the speedy winter build for Outlaw

Before it became giga meta for Assa as well

[solemn mason]

@balmy condor does your plater profile show impowered rups and garrs?

[limber lion]

Don't think so

[solemn mason]

would that be a tricky thing to add?

[limber lion]

Yes

[keen spruce]

0/1 daggers it begins

[icy acorn]

how would i create a wa that shows me the remaining duration of shiv or dm?

[limber lion]

By just importing someone else's package that has done it already and copying their wa's

[icy acorn]

!wa

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[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

[little chasm]

Hello, New rogue coming out from stealth
Why do we envenom / rupture at 4+ target ?

[slim hamlet]

Saving CP's/energy from seal fate is just better now

making 4+ fine

4+ and 5+ finish is same difference

[strange python]

Math says to

[little chasm]

Ok ok seems weird but it seems easier

[limber lion]

Because you maintain CT. You use Ruptures for energy, Scent of Blood and Sang damage, Envenom as filler

You're asking about 4+ targets

Or 4+ cp

[slim hamlet]

bruh

I read 4+ cp

[quasi solar]

why jpc playing sin guys

[slim hamlet]

[strange python]

Lol keys might be undertuned

[quasi solar]

isn't the outlaw best spec atm?

[limber lion]

Sure let's go with that

[slim hamlet]

@little chasm I want u to forget what I said

[spiral pasture]

outlaw dead

[limber lion]

He wants to have a good time

[keen spruce]

keys definitely undertuned

[raven echo]

so it begins

[strange python]

Outlaw is sim.bait

[brazen sonnet]

Do you mean bug when you have 12 stacks of buff and they always drops to 0-3 ? I wrote about it

[flint tusk]

but he's playing sub

[slim hamlet]

Why does anyone give a shit what they play in splits

[spiral pasture]

if jpc isnt playing outlaw you know spec is 💀

[strange python]

There's no shot the 16 I just did is tuned accurately. Incoming +50% damage to all keys

[subtle tundra]

!wa

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[slim hamlet]

yes

outlaw is bad

true

[quasi solar]

he changed to sub now

[flint tusk]

because people are meta slave Pepega

[slim hamlet]

time to reroll

[raven echo]

realz said this morning 2pc bug is fixed I don't know the exact fix

[brazen sonnet]

Ty

[limber lion]

Damn guess assa and outlaw are dead

[keen spruce]

we ran through an 11 in 14 minutes

[midnight mist]

better come fast otherwise NA is going to have free vaults

[raven echo]

he goes sub on trash packs and reverts to sin

[slim hamlet]

2pc was fixed on ptr but wasn't meantioned in the hotfix on live

so idk if it's fixed on live

[raven echo]

didn't see what he did last fight

[slim hamlet]

Classic NA beta testing

[strange python]

Yeah this is hilarious

[flint tusk]

i'm being pedantic because it doesn't matter what they're playing

[raven echo]

I'd assume it's fixed

for NA at least

[slim hamlet]

Maybe

Weird it's not on the list of literal bugifxes tho

[midnight mist]

it was hotfixed on live

[strange python]

Working in our favor at least

[midnight mist]

I think at least

[slim hamlet]

How do u know that

[limber lion]

A lot of thinking

[midnight mist]

because spells data

are talking about sin stuffs

[slim hamlet]

poogies

U are going in the ocean if lie

[midnight mist]

envenomous explosion?

[slim hamlet]

no

thats 4pc

[chilly viper]

@earnest remnant contributing to liquid's splits

[midnight mist]

was 4p buffed recently ?

[earnest remnant]

not me

[chilly viper]

i know haha

[slim hamlet]

it was

[midnight mist]

was that on live already

or not

[visual shuttle]

Looks like sin are the spec to play this tier in raid🙏

[slim hamlet]

You are going in the ocean Zac

too late

[midnight mist]

and what was the buff

[raven echo]

something like 4%

[slim hamlet]

ehm was a couple days ago

[raven echo]

it goes live this reset afaik

[midnight mist]

that looks a bit more than 4%

[slim hamlet]

4% buff and tooltip fix

[limber lion]

No it was not buffed

Tooltip was changed

[raven echo]

oh my bad

[midnight mist]

oh ye no I see, one number went down and one number went up, which is prolly neutral thing

internal irrelevant stuffs

BUT

[limber lion]

The "buff" was just to match the tooltips and the damage it's already doing

[slim hamlet]

man explains it best himself

It is a buff

but might aswell not be

[midnight mist]

ye the hotfixes are just 4p then

[raven echo]

WHAAAT 0.2% we zooming

[slim hamlet]

huge 0.27%

we are bis now

reroll bois

[eternal heath]

Are we above outlaw now

[limber lion]

Yeah not a buff

No

[eternal heath]

Damn rerolling hunter

[slim hamlet]

If you press buttons harder than on outlaw yes

[flint tusk]

see meta slaves

can't help themselves

[midnight mist]

well I dont see that many outlaws but maybe they are hidding a tech

[eternal heath]

The tech of feeling awful to play

[midnight mist]

prolly that ye

[raven echo]

look at james in council fight, ping pongs between 2 bosses

[spiral pasture]

get your daggers out

[eternal heath]

I'm hoping I get decent with sin and don't have a replay of season 2

Absolutely a skill issue but still

[raven echo]

I'm really happy sin is viable this tier

[eternal heath]

I have never played sin nor a snapshot spec so I'm feeling a little overwhelmed

For season 2, outlaw felt like shit to play for ST so I raided the first night then rolled boomkin

[raven echo]

you just need practice

it becomes second nature after a while

[eternal heath]

Oh yeah I don't disagree

Just new icons to get used to

[raven echo]

go to dummy and whack it

[eternal heath]

I feel like I need to read through talents to help understand why certain things are so important

[blazing roost]

hi, is there any spreadsheet that says what can we cloak/vanish on m+ and raid?

[slim hamlet]

ouh

They usually exist on competitive wow reddit at some point, haven't seen any

[raven echo]

not that I know of, but probably there'll be in a day or two

[subtle tundra]

@earnest remnant you didnt answer my question, wtf

now you did

[earnest remnant]

im doing last min wa stuff cut me some slack

[sonic zinc]

whats the earliest damage amp timing

in raid

[dark token]

its begins

[slim hamlet]

Alright

[earnest remnant]

smolderon's 1min i think

[slim hamlet]

Which one of you wrote that?

[arctic tusk]

What are the order of specs in m+ for rogue

[sonic zinc]

do u delay dm for that?

[balmy condor]

smolderon is 1:10

adds spawn on larodar at 0:10

[icy aurora]

!wa

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[hexed willow]

We vanish for deeps now

[dark token]

u go sub for that

[sonic zinc]

lol

[hexed willow]

Aligns with DM

[slim hamlet]

If u can complete cheese something like in halls of valor there aint no way u aren't doing it

[hoary shell]

do we play around sanguine blades (keep energy above 150) or we spend as many envenoms as we can?

[earnest remnant]

id guess if you were to play Assa for it, you would Dance+KB on pull, save DM for first and third intermission

[latent onyx]

so I tried outlaw the last two days as a returning player and I just feel way to slow for that spec

[sonic zinc]

its a fast spec ya

[latent onyx]

giving assa another try now and it feels so much smoother after that

[eternal heath]

Yeah I felt I relied super hard on WAs for outlaw

[latent onyx]

ye and they help a lot, but putting BTE on cooldown by accident was such a feelsbad

[sonic zinc]

too much shit to track that blizz base ui just bad for it

[raven echo]

last gcd wa was a life saver for me

[eternal heath]

Yeah I was basically reacting to sound queues lol

[subtle tundra]

ami missing something?
sprint goes from 4 second duration to 6 second duration with this

[raven echo]

never shot by mistake after I imported the wa

[latent onyx]

it almost feels unplayable without the sound tbh

[earnest remnant]

goes from 8 to 12 buddy

[subtle tundra]

without it

with it

[earnest remnant]

for how long

have you played this game

to not read tooltips

[wicked valve]

So if we're gonna target farm 1 piece first thats not a raid piece, is it the trinket from everbloom or the daggers fro dodi?

[cerulean nest]

do i just press this with DM

[subtle tundra]

huh?

im now even more confused

[swift magnet]

looks like JPC does not care about refreshing rupture while in dance, only garrote

[earnest remnant]

you have warmode on yeah?

check your pvp talents

-.-

[subtle tundra]

damn.

i did miss something

[eternal heath]

Kek

[subtle tundra]

warmode hasnt been a thing to me since bfa

s1

[slim hamlet]

Fyrakk looks sick

can't wait

[subtle tundra]

and now i had to do the pvp quest for rep....

[eternal heath]

Going in blind tonight

[distant helm]

quick question, do we use our first tea charge in the last bit of kb or do we send another tea before that aswell to get it on cd a bit quicker

as otherwise we would hold 3 charges of tea for 20secs

[sonic zinc]

guide doesnt even say to refresh rupture in dance

shrug

[wide ferry]

Just downed smolderon lolol

[flint tusk]

it really does.
The flow of that fight is insane. plus they're finally learning about colours!

now they just need to stop stacking the same colour on other bosses

[raven echo]

yeah could be the best last boss they did for a long time

[swift magnet]

it did there at the time, did it change?

[sonic zinc]

wowhead

[raven echo]

check wowhead or whispyr's video to find latest rotation

[brazen zodiac]

it begins. :c

[dark token]

the latest rotation

which will be nerfed soon

[flint tusk]

stealthi's raid lost to max

[raven echo]

wonder who's fault

[thorn fjord]

Can always blame the warlocks

[flint tusk]

not enough rogues

clearly

[thorn fjord]

Does seeing all that yellow give you anxiety

[midnight mist]

not at all, not a single outlaw

[rancid meadow]

is assassination looking best for raid?

[flint tusk]

jesus

here they come

xD

[subtle tundra]

yes its bis the very bis

[flint tusk]

Assa is so strong you must run atleast 10 per mythic comp

[blazing totem]

yes assa is best, outlaw needs a buff

buff outlaw ty

[midnight mist]

10 ??!!

that seems like a lot

[shy axle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[flint tusk]

can't count that high? ;P

[tame quartz]

Hi, does Elvui not see Caustic spatter as a debuff?? im trying to make it so elvui changes colour as soon as it detects a target with caustic spatter on but, after filtering it with my other debuff i want to track. i cant seem to get it to show on my name plates, even tried deadly poisen.

[midnight mist]

can only count up to 8 sorry

[flint tusk]

fuck man

ahh perfect

5 outlaw 5 assa

fixed

[placid wave]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[snow torrent]

I didn't play Rogue last season so I'm missing the embellishment; would it still be recommended to craft Toxic thorn footwraps; or should I craft the weap with my week 1 spark? MH weap is 450.. sorry for the dumb question

[gray crest]

Weapon DPS is the strongest stats so getting a good weapon early will boost your DPS quite a bit more than an embellishment would typically give

[night delta]

I'd say craft weap if you get nothing from m+, vault, raid

[snow torrent]

Thanks a lot guys :)

[flint tusk]

best advice is wait until reset for sure

nothing worse than crafting a dagger then getting a high ilvl nick of time

[slate crown]

I know I'm late to the party but

keys feel quite nice now

[snow torrent]

Would that be next reset? next week that is; won't we only get a new spark every other week?

[royal lantern]

10?

still space for 1 more

[spiral pasture]

you mean assa in keys or keys are easy ?

[royal lantern]

assa in keys is the opposite of easy

like, out of the 3 rogue specs its the most complicated one there by a good chunk

[flint tusk]

i mean delay it until your first vault

[snow torrent]

Aaah, alright - thanks :)

[spiral pasture]

i meant keys being easy is nice or assa being good in keys is nice

[royal lantern]

probs keys easy

idk man

im not a NA andy

[exotic pulsar]

Sin is a bit of a hard sell in keys when outlaw is the simplest it's been in many years. It's just so easy to turn off brain and spam through dungeons now with it

[royal lantern]

yeha, but here comes the big thing:

some people like assa and wanna play it