assassination

[strange python]

So really - if recuperator is bugged...and you're running blue silken - that's a dps nerf lol

[slim hamlet]

Pay a healer to only look at your hp

[keen spruce]

is recuperator bugged?

[strange python]

Someone was saying it's bugged pretty bad earlier

[slate crown]

Keep in mind we also have leeching, 12% leech

[slim hamlet]

Haven't it been weird for ages

[slate crown]

So, doing giga damage = 12% healing of that giga damage onto us

[strange python]

I was on a work call so

[slate crown]

= possibly bring us back over silken threshold

[strange python]

yeah that's quite possibly a true scenario now

[slim hamlet]

Idk I aint going thst embelish in proc even if I had 25% leech

Much rather consistancy

[slate crown]

I mean I'm just going boots

[keen spruce]

yeah too random

[slate crown]

because that's what the guides say and I'm comfy with that

[slim hamlet]

But it does do the dmg

[strange python]

yeah it just becomes totally worthless in some scenarios

[keen spruce]

and in keys you health is always rubber banding all over the place

in raid it seems even worse

cuz of all of the rot damage

[strange python]

those toxic boots are like the crafted item right - i can't just recraft and swap my embelishment?

[keen spruce]

correct

[strange python]

ugh

[keen spruce]

toxic boots are the embelishment

you don't toxify a pair of boots

[fierce sigil]

do we craft toxic sworn boots or slimy expulsion boots

[gaunt sigil]

Toxic

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

How do we toxify our daggers then

[strange python]

with that trinket

[keen spruce]

we don't we poison them

[strange python]

from ... what was that dungeon

[slim hamlet]

[fallen forge]

this a thing? for st opener

[keen spruce]

i'm not speaking to you

mayonaise boy

[fallen forge]

[slim hamlet]

Same

Honestly

[strange python]

If you don't like mayo, what do you like, miracle whip?

[slim hamlet]

Mayo is good

[keen spruce]

no mayo is fine

[slim hamlet]

But not IN A GRILLED CHEESE

[keen spruce]

he puts it inside his grilled cheese sandwhiches

[fallen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-peepo-sadpeepo-spending-time-without-your-favorite-streamer-heydoubleu-gif-18517365

[keen spruce]

with marinara sauce

[fallen forge]

me rn

[keen spruce]

[strange python]

I think they just use it to TOAST the bread right?

[slim hamlet]

[strange python]

like instead of the butter

[slim hamlet]

Yes you would think so

BUT NO

[strange python]

lol

[keen spruce]

NO INSIDE

@fallen forge okay to actually answer you tho

[slim hamlet]

🤮

[strange python]

I've tried that both ways (on burger buns) and I can't taste the difference

[keen spruce]

it's technically very tiny

gain

to mutilate over ambush in KB

because 2 chanes at poisons

[slim hamlet]

100 dps

[keen spruce]

but just like

don't do it

cuz it's crongy

[slim hamlet]

Wait

Why do u have the power to rename him

[fallen forge]

yeah nah i aint redoing my keybinds for that

100 dps smh

[keen spruce]

duck HR power

[fallen forge]

he does?

[keen spruce]

I don't

i was kiddin

[slim hamlet]

This gif made me feel bad ngl

[keen spruce]

he named himself that

[fallen forge]

[slim hamlet]

HE DID THAT

TO HIMSELF????

[fallen forge]

do u still feel bad

[keen spruce]

i mean he's the one that likes it

[slim hamlet]

He is actively advertising his mental problems??​

[fallen forge]

its a symbol of pride

[slim hamlet]

I don't feel bad no

[strange python]

I've never tried grilled cheese with mayo

[keen spruce]

tempted to try it for science ngl

[strange python]

But if grilled ham and cheese with mayo is good

[eternal heath]

Aren't we all rogues?

[slim hamlet]

I am not

[strange python]

I'd be willing to give it a try

[fallen forge]

just trust

[keen spruce]

but also

[fallen forge]

[slim hamlet]

Oh yea forgor about that detail

[keen spruce]

if you want goobier bread

just use more butter in the pan

lower heat

and make cheese melt more

[fallen forge]

ye but i like a lil bit of that cronch

[haughty flicker]

just add nails

[keen spruce]

lower heat and more butter

[strange python]

I can't imagine the mayo changes much on the grilled cheese.

[keen spruce]

will make better cronch

and more even

browning

[strange python]

Isn't like most melted cheese pretty much mayo'ey anyway

[fallen forge]

makes it juicier

[keen spruce]

and when the cheese gets super oozey

it'll spill out and crispy on the pan

for more cronch

[strange python]

I mean when I make steak subs - i melt white american into the steak - and then top it with provolone

[slim hamlet]

What kinda Cheese u eating

[keen spruce]

don't need performance enchancing goobies from mayo

[slim hamlet]

Is this an NA "Cheese" diff?

[keen spruce]

no

[strange python]

I've had a thing for white american (sharp) lately

[keen spruce]

idk wtf he's talkin about

[runic hinge]

Use shredded cheese and it’ll end up gooeyer

[slim hamlet]

I hate the word gooey

Stop

[runic hinge]

No

[strange python]

damnit i'm hungry now

[slim hamlet]

Please

[storm forum]

Gooey

[keen spruce]

@fallen forge I saw the picture you posted. more butter in pan, lower heat, longer cook. you'll get more chronch and gooyer inside w/o mayo

[blazing jewel]

[strange python]

🧑‍🍳 Schmeeps

[keen spruce]

hello scanna

[blazing jewel]

1 more day

[arctic tusk]

Sin rogues eating good this patch we’re talking about grilled cheeses

[storm forum]

Welcome back to #assassination , today we're cooking.

[slim hamlet]

1 more day until the true end begins

[strange python]

Today we're cooking with butter, cheese, and maybe mayo

[blazing jewel]

I have to target dummy sin today

[storm forum]

1 more day until I forget about grinding my gacha games

[blazing jewel]

Does that count as cooking

[runic hinge]

Renown check

[slim hamlet]

Gone will be the days of love, affection, cooking and natura disaster talk

[fallen forge]

the one that gave u nightmares?

[blazing jewel]

14

[fallen forge]

scana i need ur opinion

grilled cheese with or without mayo

[runic hinge]

Should be grinding them seeds

[storm forum]

3

[slim hamlet]

Back in the mines with you

[keen spruce]

yes

[blazing jewel]

With ham

[gaunt sigil]

4

[fallen forge]

grilled cheese with ham AND mayo or without mayo

[gentle burrow]

Grilled cheese with numbing poison

[blazing jewel]

No mayo

[keen spruce]

@blazing jewel he's putting mayo inside of his grilled cheese not on the outside in place of butter

[blazing jewel]

Okay that’s double no mayo

[forest kayak]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[blazing jewel]

Butter on outside is better

[slim hamlet]

Just smashing a chunk of mayo in kt

It

[fallen forge]

smh nonbelievers

[slim hamlet]

[blazing jewel]

To be fair

[keen spruce]

it's like... butter outside for crispy. then just Cheese (liquid from melting), marinara (liquid), mayo (liquidish) inside

[blazing jewel]

I haven’t had a grilled cheese in at least a year

[slim hamlet]

Same

[eternal heath]

Okay I have like 30 hours to become a rogue expert

[slim hamlet]

But it hasn't got buffed to suddenly be better with mayo

[keen spruce]

I would also

[slim hamlet]

Unless I missed those patch notes

[storm forum]

I don't like grilled cheese very much. If I want a cheese sandwich I'll make a caprese.

[keen spruce]

just heat up the marinara on the side

for dunking

[blazing jewel]

Also I need you master rogue players big brains

[keen spruce]

instead of putting it inside

[slim hamlet]

Why did u look in here for that?

[slate crown]

I'm rdy

[blazing jewel]

If I have double snapshot dots and their duration is ending soon do I drop my env chain or do I refresh them early and try to keep the chain going

[strange python]

If you eat mayo, you doin Hellman's or Duke's -- or do they have totally different brands where you guys live?

[fallen forge]

if u try the mayo grilled cheese i'll do anything for u

[keen spruce]

it's about a wash

[storm forum]

I'm dropping the chain

[runic hinge]

Hellmans gang

[keen spruce]

don't let them drop

[eternal heath]

I missed the convo but are you just using mayo instead of butter for the grilling?

[slim hamlet]

No

He is using bitter and shit

[keen spruce]

but also you can let NS dots run down since

[slim hamlet]

But then scoops mayo inside

[eternal heath]

Tf

[strange python]

No...he's putting it ON the sandwich

[slim hamlet]

Absolutely illegal activity

[eternal heath]

[keen spruce]

you're gonna overwrite NS if you pandemic them anyways

[storm forum]

My feelcraft senses are telling me to prioritize the DoTs

[fallen forge]

not exactly on but like inside

[strange python]

well yeah lol

[runic hinge]

I thought you always let NS dots run their course

[blazing jewel]

So maybe just let them drop fully and refresh after

Fully commit to dropping the chain

[eternal heath]

[strange python]

I mean it does sound disgusting to me, but I'm willing to try it...so I will one of these days.

[gaunt sigil]

You let them drop

[keen spruce]

Env chain basically impossible to maintain for any length of time atm

[gentle burrow]

Hello fellow sin rouges, i come in representation of subtlety in peace, looking for cooperation in terms of an aliance to see both specs prosper

[keen spruce]

once 4 set

[slate crown]

Having done a lot of trials

[keen spruce]

maybe prio changes

but rn

[slate crown]

The snapshot dot refresh-as-they-fade does not always cause a chain drop

[strange python]

State your requests and/or demands.

[keen spruce]

idk i doubt it matters

since you're only chaining in downtime

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

and you'r not doin any damage anyways

[slate crown]

LIke, you can have situations where they fade natrually at a time when you can kee pthe chain going, but if it's going to drop, it drops, and you just pool back up

[keen spruce]

like 3s left on dots? maybe just clip them and keep chain

[gentle burrow]

I demand grilled cheese, and in return youll have sub rogues recommendation to the general opinion of sin

[keen spruce]

5s? maybe env one more time then refresh and drop env

idk

[storm forum]

My brownies are not cooling .-.

[keen spruce]

i'd imagine it makes basically no difference

[strange python]

yeah we have an expert on that. YOu gotta talk to @fallen forge about it

[blazing jewel]

Buff dust

[gentle burrow]

@fallen forge hello grilled cheese with mayo enjoyer

[slate crown]

Also last tick is always a partial tick

[gentle burrow]

I was told

You make the best grilled cheese

In the sin territory

[slim hamlet]

[blazing roost]

Is ashes of embersoul really good trinket on sin or is it just good on sims?

[strange python]

best - is highly contraversial

I just know the dude makes grilled cheese

[keen spruce]

1 charge of vanish, Dust gets buffed to fully reset all CDs, vanish CD up to 4m

there i fixed sub

[slim hamlet]

New​ changes aren't in yet

[keen spruce]

[tardy lance]

How's Assassination looking for low keys compared to high keys for M+? Especially when compared to the other 2 specs (When 4pc Tier set is involved)

[gentle burrow]

5 stacks of vanish, vanish also resets vanish

[timber meadow]

do you treat nightstalker empowered ruptures the same as you treat an empowered garrote, or refresh them normally?

[slim hamlet]

Low keys goodge, mid keys meh, high keys goodge

[blazing roost]

what about single target on raid?

[strange python]

sin feels good in low keys - you can get your dmg off pretty quick. If you're just melting through pack after pack, you're probably gonna fall behind front-loaded burst specs though (that don't use their cooldowns).

[slim hamlet]

Goodge

[slate crown]

Better: give prep back that does this, decouple CDR from vanish so vanish's utility doesn't compete with dps uses of the ability

[tardy lance]

Feels odd getting used to Shadow Dance

[slim hamlet]

Idk how goodge until we see it but goodge

[amber path]

hows sin looking this season?

[blazing roost]

ok, thanks brother

[strange python]

sin looks like it's gonna slap

[manic quartz]

refresh it as it drops

[tardy lance]

What's it like compared to what the other 2 specs bring to M+?

[gentle burrow]

Im happy for sinnies

[keen spruce]

Vanish drops a clone that casts sec tec one second later. burst->sec tec->vanish->sec tec. 3 sec tecs

[slate crown]

Treat as garrote.

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

Sin is feeling good (if only I could remember to refresh spatter)

[fallen forge]

only the finest minds can truly enjoy a grilled cheese with mayo

[lucid silo]

How's button bloat on sin?

[strange python]

ngl, I think outlaw is gonna still shine. I think sub will shine in higher target environments. But I think sin is in a great place - especially compared to what it's always been in m+. Completely and totally viable - all three (imo).

[gentle burrow]

And for every 5 vanish clones they start charging an energy ball attack

Totally not a reference

[sage plank]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[keen spruce]

and it's called "public technique" cuz it's not a secret anymore

[tardy lance]

Ik Outlaw has the ability to always pump on packs, but I feel like Assassination will be good to melt through a pack that NEEDS to die quick but

[gentle burrow]

Hot idea: make vanish be like u-turn in pokemon

You use vanish

[keen spruce]

we have less buttons now

[gentle burrow]

You get kicked from raid

U get a random in

[slate crown]

Not sure, here's my button layout, I'll let you decide if it's bloated or not

[gentle burrow]

A random in valdraken

[keen spruce]

[gentle burrow]

Gets pulled into raid

[slim hamlet]

Sounds good to me

[strange python]

I mean - to me - i think sin will have that "prio damage" role still. Not that it's always (or even at all) a needed role. But our numbers seem good so far from what I've tested/played. Whispyr has a couple pretty good videos up on youtube though, from PTR i think.

[slim hamlet]

Would play

[lucid silo]

I don't know if that's bloated or the worst layout in the history of time

[gentle burrow]

Oh youre gathering herbs? Too bad bozo youre in the bone zone now

[slate crown]

[strange python]

ie. basically if you are a true assassination enjoyer - this is your season to shine. If you're not and you love outlaw or sub, I see no real reason to switch over.

[amber path]

I'm asking cause I saw fuu's spreadsheet and was wondering if there was a problem with the numbers.

[keen spruce]

@lucid silo we have less buttons than last tier

[lucid silo]

That's good to hear

[strange python]

I think there are some bugs atm - but i'm not familar with the specific spreadsheet, honestly.

[manic quartz]

generator on 1 is plashbemy

[storm forum]

We're losing like 5-10% from bugs

[merry raven]

what bugs?

[lucid silo]

The bug that sin isn't best

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-gif-21306211

[gentle burrow]

This is all a plan from realz

Make sin bugged

Till raid drops

Then all the bugs are fixed out of nowhere

Bravo realz

[amber path]

I see I see, thanks for the explanation

[storm forum]

Our tier set is bugged on ptr. That's the big one. Then there are some small ones with deadly dose and maybe something else. Those are more minor iirc

[slim hamlet]

Nah nah Realz made the bugs on purpose

So he can make everyone believe we need buffs

Then buff and bugfix same time

[merry raven]

like what specifically though. "its bugged" doesnt tell me what's wrong lol

[keen spruce]

lethal dose bugs ~1%
2p amir bug ~4-5%

[slim hamlet]

Excellent plan Realz 👏

[keen spruce]

2p bug = once reaching max stacks, new stacks aren't applied and buff eventually drops

[slim hamlet]

2pc rando resets, lethal dose doesnt contribute right

[storm forum]

Tier set buff falls off early. Dose bugs I don't remember which DoTs are affected, but some don't contribute to the +% and some contribute, but aren't affected.

[keen spruce]

lethal dose bug:

[merry raven]

i see

[faint gull]

does someone have a link to t31 assa sims? fuu runs different talents than whispyrs wowhead guide (for dungeon slice)

[shy axle]

do you sometimes use one shiv in between or do you strictly save both charges for sd/kingsbane every minute, how does that play out in reality?

[strange python]

you looked at all 3 talent builds right?

[slate crown]

Strictly save

[keen spruce]

save both

exclusively

[gentle burrow]

Or maybe sin is gonna be bugged for the next 2 seasons like sectec/subterfurge was for us

[keen spruce]

shiv is now a burst CD with the other stuff

[faint gull]

I picked the top perfoming one I think. It only has one on dungeon slice anyways

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

[strange python]

I mean leeching poison doesn't even work so...i dont have much faith.

[shy axle]

thanks guys

[keen spruce]

it works it just doesn't have portal immunity

[strange python]

true true

[slim hamlet]

Realz actually said his colleague might have finally found a fix a few days ago

[storm forum]

Default save. Can use in-between if you're holding KB for something (like next pack/damage amp) or need to dispel enrage.

[gentle burrow]

I have a question

[storm forum]

But try to hold both for kb if you can

[gentle burrow]

How does the poison leech life

I understand like

Taking life

But how are u leeching from it

[strange python]

it's magic dude wtf

[storm forum]

Idk, magic something

[slate crown]

Ngl

[slim hamlet]

How the fuck does any leech work?

[glossy olive]

Prior to having 10.2 tier, am I putting envenom on target before deathmark?

[storm forum]

We're not mages, idk how much we care about the why.

[slim hamlet]

Smh not realistic game

[strange python]

"I put it on, it heals me" yeah

[slim hamlet]

We can legit shadowstep

We are mages

Sub even got mirror images

[storm forum]

O.o

Shit maybe we are mages

[merry raven]

delete shadowstep, make grapple baseline

[slate crown]

This spec is entirely about bleeds and poisons, do you think that in the 2 decades of wow, the bleed rogue spec has never once considered partaking in a little sanguine snack?

Just as a treat?

[keen spruce]

idk why are you called subtlety rogues when you glow purple and throw explosives on the ground

[slate crown]

Yes, you still want envenom up for buffing Kingsbane, which you will be using shortly after deathmark anyways

[wet agate]

Yeah not very subtle

[slate crown]

Well, to be clear, you are putting envenom on yourself, it's a self buff not a target buff

[gentle burrow]

Depends on the raid, glowing purple can blend with the enviorement

[timber meadow]

iono maybe im blind but im looking at the sample sequence on a sim i ran and it 4 point ruptures at 13 seconds and then the next rupture is at 41 seconsds... why would that be

[keen spruce]

cuz pandemic'd rupture lasts a long time

[timber meadow]

oh ye i dummy thx

[gentle burrow]

Why is it called pandemic

Ur not pandas

[keen spruce]

it was a warlock spell

[gentle burrow]

Have u ever seen a panda rogue?

[keen spruce]

which made sense

[slate crown]

I have

[swift magnet]

if I have DM+dance+kb coming off cd very soon but I need to refresh my bleed else they will fall off, do I refresh the bleeds again when im in Dance even though I just did like 5 secs ago?

[slate crown]

actually

[keen spruce]

then we yoinked the word

[hollow stone]

you can't see panda rogues cause of stealth

it is known

[slate crown]

You always refresh your bleeds in dance, this snapshots them with nightstalker

[keen spruce]

yes

[slate crown]

Even if you just cast them

[latent copper]

do we cast most Finishers With 4 cp instead 6?

[slate crown]

4+, whatever CP you land on at 4 or above, finish

[keen spruce]

4, 5, or 6

or mutilate on 4 it doesn't matter

[eternal heath]

I made one in MoP

[gentle burrow]

What are u now

[eternal heath]

Right now maghar

[keen spruce]

rare

[eternal heath]

Female maghar looks really good in most armor

[swift magnet]

do I let my NS dots fall off before refreshing them?

[latent copper]

ok

[gaunt sigil]

Yes

[merry raven]

male zandi > fem orc > else imo

only hit against zani is shoes

[eternal heath]

I think at the time I made my rogue, I didn't have zanda unlocked

[wet agate]

Zandi just look good in anything melee imo

[gaunt sigil]

Zandi too tall imo

[eternal heath]

But yeah I wouldn't do them for rogue personally, bit too big imo

[manic quartz]

always been undead, change to goblin when they came out -> back to undead ->now troll supremacy

[wet agate]

Outlaw Zandi isn't too bad if you go a pirate theme

[eternal heath]

Hate the ears for goblin or I'd still do them

[hollow stone]

goblin bis stealth animation otherwise they are the suck

[eternal heath]

But yeah my rogue is on Azshara and I was originally debating just leveling a new one on Zuljin

[fallow acorn]

not being able to wear shoes as Troll, though 😮

[merry raven]

i'd go undead if i could have a "fresh" look aka let me be horde human

[manic quartz]

my only problem with trolls :<

[gentle burrow]

Certified fact checked tierlist of best rogue races

[keen spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173538595294937190/image.png?ex=656451fc&is=6551dcfc&hm=1b4f77f056a3b81508b3129b5eb3a423a9cb049889841894b727fa6788a97ada&

[gaunt sigil]

I just wish nightborne was good for rogue

[keen spruce]

scana and shmeeps

elf gorl supremacy

[gusty mirage]

I wish nightborne was good

[eternal heath]

I wish the nightborne ears weren't so stupidly long

[gusty mirage]

their racials are pretty dogshit lmao

[merry raven]

i got called out by someone who thought racials mattered in an LFR for being zandi troll

[gusty mirage]

they got done dirty

[gaunt sigil]

I wish Belfs had actual customization

[wet agate]

Fem races > most of those

[gaunt sigil]

Nightborne is good for mage and that’s pretty much it

[gentle burrow]

The tierlist didnt have fem races sadly

Homophobia

From tiermaker

[gentle belfry]

[manic quartz]

suck em toes

[gentle burrow]

Woa buddy

[gentle belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/et-point-finger-gif-10822986

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

some nice grippers you got there

[manic quartz]

trolls could easily grab extra daggers with those, now mutilate attacks with all 4

[gentle burrow]

Yall wished u had voidelf drip

[manic quartz]

edgy af

basic sub enjoyer 😄

[blazing jewel]

[gentle burrow]

Im gonna put legos next to your bed before you wake up

[dark token]

did anyone play sin on tindral testing

[dark token]

on ptr

[manic quartz]

i grew up in the 90's i'm basically immune to them

[eternal heath]

Hozen race when

[vestal wren]

undead s, meanwhilw worse dps race

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-animation-monkeymeme-gif-20175736

[keen spruce]

back up dress rogue

featuring sleepy duck

[gentle burrow]

Technically the best race for every class is mechagnome

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

skirt*

[gentle burrow]

Yet no one plays them

[vestal wren]

why

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[gentle burrow]

Idk every time i check sims for classes they are at the top

Bc of the passive

[keen spruce]

not anymore

[slim hamlet]

There are a couple its bis for

deffo not every

[keen spruce]

the diaper babies were strong for a while tho

[slim hamlet]

-5% dps just by having to look at them tho

[gentle burrow]

This was my s2 rogur

[slim hamlet]

vampire belf is only right way

or void elf

[keen spruce]

this gives off big lesbian librarian energy

[gentle burrow]

Thats me

Lesbian librarian

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

The classic vampire winged lesbian librarian

ahh yes

[gaunt sigil]

Ok I’m ngl this build slaps, you lose a fair bit of AOE but you still have the really strong ST.

[slim hamlet]

wtf

is that

[gentle burrow]

A png

[gaunt sigil]

It’s basically the ST build with CT and IC

And spatter over internal bleeding

[silver yacht]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gaunt sigil]

I’ve run it in like 5-6 dungeons and it feels good. I haven’t run sims on it though

[slim hamlet]

So just a ST boss with add spawn build

[gaunt sigil]

Basically yeah

[keen spruce]

no iron wire

[slim hamlet]

that 1% dmg tho

[gaunt sigil]

If I need to I drop zoldyc for iron wire

It just depends on the dung

[keen spruce]

if you're in a dungeon you need

[slim hamlet]

Ehm achthuahly

U don't need it

[gaunt sigil]

Not if you have Aug

[slim hamlet]

🤓

[keen spruce]

15% DR for 8 seconds and an AoE silence

[velvet ridge]

U need?

[keen spruce]

no i don't need that

[slim hamlet]

already rolled need yea sry

[gaunt sigil]

Hey I’m just saying what’s worked for me

[cerulean nest]

what variations of the dance KB raid build are people planning on using on bosses with cleave/adds?

[gaunt sigil]

I’m not saying it’s bis

[keen spruce]

i mean it could be very playable, i'd just kick the zoldyk for IW

[gentle burrow]

Emm acshuallu

[empty hinge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slim hamlet]

Changin IB to spatter is usually enough

[gaunt sigil]

The only dungeons I don’t run IW are UR and FH cause they are free af

[keen spruce]

Tuffy did they bully you out of sub. why are we so lucky today to have you in our presence?

[gentle burrow]

I enjoy both specs

[gusty mirage]

dust enjoyer

[slim hamlet]

Dust saves sub gameplay

change my mind

[gusty mirage]

you're wrong about everything, why would I bother

[slim hamlet]

[gaunt sigil]

[slim hamlet]

Name one other thing I am wrong about

[gusty mirage]

your role icon

[keen spruce]

you name matching your icon

[slim hamlet]

Yes I agree

Another thing

[real solar]

hi oxi

[keen spruce]

@gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

@real solar hi ily

[keen spruce]

got em

[blazing jewel]

Did you guys acquire pi from your guilds yet

[gaunt sigil]

I have lol

[slim hamlet]

I don't think we even got a priest

its so joever

[gusty mirage]

not my decision

[gaunt sigil]

We have 3

[gusty mirage]

they can PI whoever they want

[real solar]

can i macro dance and kingsbane together @gusty mirage :^)

[keen spruce]

I've aquired PI from my guild on Echo prog

[slim hamlet]

Can I have one?

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

perfectly fine in raid

[real solar]

ty

[gaunt sigil]

[slim hamlet]

[keen spruce]

do i need to link the power point again

for those who missed it

[proper tapir]

Wait, what's wrong with the sub dust build? It's a sim trap? It's degen?

[blazing jewel]

[stiff kernel]

Is there a macro that can swap between mutilate and ambush depending if you have stealth whether it be from SD etc?

[blazing jewel]

Hard to play from fight to fight

[keen spruce]

it's more finkey with fight timers and CD management

[gaunt sigil]

Just put it on your stealth bar

Otherwise I’m not aware of one

[sick aspen]

what power point?

[slim hamlet]

a macro exists

[gentle burrow]

Listen

Dust lets me cast sectec more

What else could i want

[slim hamlet]

based reason

[keen spruce]

the how to get power infusion power point

[slim hamlet]

send it

[keen spruce]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1LdPImV63o2PPJ5PO0IjICfUo1jVsmJUCsA3hp38rp2Y/edit?usp=sharing

I need to add more i wrote it at like 3am

a few weeks ago

[gaunt sigil]

Just play a spec that wants PI

And find a wild priest and offer them salvation in your guild if it doesn’t have one

[restive hawk]

anyone got a weakaura to track rupture dot with a glow when it need to be reapplied?

couldnt find one on wago

[gaunt sigil]

Afenar does

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spice spire]

Pick an aura, any aura

[gusty mirage]

a puppy

[real solar]

i want oxi

[gusty mirage]

[real solar]

why do you have a #1 fan

and why isnt it me

[gusty mirage]

because you're like batman, you disappear into the night

[slim hamlet]

Alright sent it to our guild

Now we wait

[gusty mirage]

oh

I'm famous

[slim hamlet]

Are you?

[gusty mirage]

yeah I'm on a shmeeps powerpoint

I've made it

[slim hamlet]

Oh yea

He also put himself there 12 times

So he is famouser

[gusty mirage]

ofc

and more handsome

and a better rogue

[slim hamlet]

gg wp

Hard to defeat that

[keen spruce]

ofc u are

[gentle burrow]

Get your ass to hunter discord

[bleak ivy]

where can I find best M+ and raiding talents

[shut owl]

this is beautiful

[gusty mirage]

Power Infusion is a Priest spell available to all specs that will zoink you out of your gourd like a double nostriled vacuum of the devil’s dandruff for 20 seconds every 2 minutes.

[keen spruce]

wowhead guide is updated with all of them

[gusty mirage]

what a beautiful description

[keen spruce]

oh ig it got nerfed to 15s

misinformation

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[slim hamlet]

Classic duck behaviour

[slate crown]

Wait was this always a thing? Where I can cast hearthstone without breaking stealth?

[gusty mirage]

subterfuge

[slate crown]

neato

[slim hamlet]

aintnoway

[bleak ivy]

theres like 3 diffrent ones for M+

[gusty mirage]

you can fully mount before stealth breaks as well

[slim hamlet]

thats a thing

[slate crown]

sure is

[rotund wagon]

yes

[bleak ivy]

Utilitarian Hybrid and Arterial Shock

[rotund wagon]

but also can just put ambush on the stealth bar

[latent copper]

i just tried on live server the M+ Hybrid. Do you got as well some Energy holes? How to handle with them? Is it cauze of low HAste (10%). Really annoying

[keen spruce]

yeah they all have explainations on when/why you might want to use them

[gusty mirage]

That's just the spec, esp w/ sanguine blades eating most of the extra energy we got in aoe before

[rotund wagon]

#showtooltip [stance] ambush; mutilate
/cast [stance] ambush; mutilate
/use 14

[autumn prism]

Yo, im struggeling to do damage as Assa. i have a log for one run i did https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xXZhD8rHYbjQmzaq#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=5

if anyone can help me it would be highly appriaciateed

[rotund wagon]

I have it for if i have an on use that im entirely too lazy to press

[bleak ivy]

So hybrid is more for ST fights and Arterial Shock is for AOE?

[keen spruce]

shock loses a LOT of st

so maybe on like raging fort weeks

but i'll probably be playing the other two

on almost all weeks for m+

[steady hornet]

during pooling phase we envenom at 4 combo points + ?

[keen spruce]

during all phases you finish on 4+ combo points

[steady hornet]

oki ty

[merry raven]

spatter for gnarly tomorrow?

[slim hamlet]

When a bleed is snapshotted with NS does it also snapshot haste there?

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

I would guess not

[keen spruce]

i think they got rid of haste snapshotting long ago

[slim hamlet]

But also weird it is able to only snapshot one thing and keep rest dynamic

Yes I know but could be some stuff with NS

[keen spruce]

i believe that's the whole design of NS

[slim hamlet]

just randomly thought aobut it

[keen spruce]

to make it usable by assas

since snapshotting was yeeted long ago

for us

[placid wave]

would be weirder if NS suddenly turned on other forms of stat snapshotting imo

[gusty mirage]

it does not

the only reason exsang did was because it took a snapshot of the bleed when you pressed it to achieve the 100% faster thing

so it also snapshotted the tick rate because it directly affected the tick rate

[bleak ivy]

So it's passable if I just stick to hybrid whole time lmao

[keen spruce]

yeah

probably going to be the default actually

[crude anvil]

is sin still sandbagging sims?

[gentle burrow]

Sin rogues riddle me this, if you are called assassination, why dont you assassinate instead of poisoning

Shouldnt the spec be called

Poisoner

[bleak ivy]

Alr fair enough

[gusty mirage]

when was sin sand bagging sims?

[keen spruce]

[crude anvil]

havent people been saying sims are wrong

[keen spruce]

our 2p is bugged

[royal lantern]

outlaw rogues riddle me this, if you are called outlaws, why cant i kill you on sight

[bleak ivy]

And do you think poisoning someone is not part of an assasin?

[keen spruce]

the sims are correctly reflecting that

[gusty mirage]

the only sims that are wrong, are the ones that are not originating from here

and you can't really control what other people sim

[arctic hare]

Zoldyck insignia…

Execution biotch!

[crude anvil]

so the ones on the ultrias tier piece/PI sims are wrong for sin?

[spice surge]

No

Theyre correct for how the game works

[gusty mirage]

I looked it over for him, his sims are updated now

[spice surge]

But also the branch trinket is screwed because the default option for it isnt great

And his sims arent using a non-default option for it (aka branch gets way less uptime than it should)

[gusty mirage]

and reflect closer to what ours show now

[slim hamlet]

So branch there is not played right but still BIS by a lot?

[spice surge]

Oh you checked it like within the last hour or so?

[bleak ivy]

man outlaw is a fucking piano spec ngl

[spice surge]

Nice

[slim hamlet]

[gusty mirage]

last night, he updated it and the sheet like completely broke so they had to recode it

it's updated now though

only dif in dps is from the default branch options

it's 235 now

[spice surge]

ye the branch thing is still an issue

But otherwise looks good

[gusty mirage]

he implemented the latest apl stuff to make sure it simmed right and I double checked it for him

[woven storm]

Hey, is there any way to parse with vanish in Details?

[gusty mirage]

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[gusty mirage]

I gotchu

[real solar]

can u tell him to rig the PI sim for rogue

to above hunters

[gusty mirage]

it is above hunters

[real solar]

Is it

[gusty mirage]

yes

[real solar]

send me SS

[gusty mirage]

by like 2k dps lol

[real solar]

On mobile

guild saying hunter > rogue

[gusty mirage]

your guild doesn't know how to read

[raw raft]

Both my BM hunters getting it over me it’s joever

[gray crest]

Doesn't sp delay their pi anyway? Making it better for sin since we also have a delay

[gusty mirage]

bro

spriest

LMFAO

are you high

[gentle burrow]

I heard that spec existed once

[bleak ivy]

sp is ass now

forget it

[gray crest]

You mean to tell me their Nth rework this expansion messed up their damage?

[gusty mirage]

@real solar if they're using Ulria's sheet to make that determination, he's missing about 3-4k dps from branch optimization

and there's nothing he can do about that

cause the branch usage is a simc thing not a profile thing

[bleak ivy]

they in the swamps with windwalker now F tier

[raw raft]

What if I told you my guild has 2 of them

[gentle burrow]

Nono spriest isnt in swamp ass

[gusty mirage]

and then assassination gets another set of fuckton of damage if the 2pc ever gets fixed

[gentle burrow]

Its in dont touch it

Get ur tierlist right

[bleak ivy]

What are u talking ab?

[raw raft]

Fixed before raid SURELY

[gentle burrow]

Oh i thought u were refering to the community tierlist

[bleak ivy]

nah

[gusty mirage]

surely

[slim hamlet]

10.2.7

Trust

[bleak ivy]

whats the assa tier set?

[keen spruce]

you get stacks

that gives you good stuff

[raw raft]

That’s why servers will be down all day because they’re bug fixing

[keen spruce]

but the stacks fall off currently

[bleak ivy]

good stuff I like it

[keen spruce]

so when they don't

[bleak ivy]

Might invest

market is good rn

[idle light]

i think the 2 piece is fixed on ptr, which is a good sign

[slim hamlet]

I mean we know they know about it and know it's a good amount of our dmg. But they also have a looooot of shit they gotta try and fix

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

I would rather be suprised if they fix next week than expect

[real solar]

Ya, fair enough

I was looking at bloodmallet and them the sheet

[keen spruce]

@idle light if i go log over to PTR and it's not fixed I'm throwing you in the sea

[idle light]

lol, it updated maybe 20 minutes ago

[gentle burrow]

Sinies if someone is like, damn rogue rework seems good i wanna try it

How do u convince em

To try sin

And not go outlaw

[idle light]

i didn't see stacks stop at 12 and drop off

[slim hamlet]

That doesn't mean it's fixe

pleae don't tell me you just said it because it updated

[raw raft]

This why he said it

[keen spruce]

hmm

my ptr is updating

[idle light]

i logged into ptr and checked....

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[idle light]

whatever, you guys can log in and verify if you want

[slim hamlet]

I believe

[keen spruce]

i'm not sayin i don't believe u

just that if you're lying u go in the ocean

[bleak ivy]

Path of exile gigachad enjoyers ?

[slim hamlet]

But just because it's on ptr doesn't 100% mean it will be with next reset

[keen spruce]

[shell kraken]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slim hamlet]

Seems fair tbh

[idle light]

doesn't mean it gets pushed to next reset, but since it's working, it's a good sign, which is exactly what i said

[slim hamlet]

is this 10.2 ptr or 10.2.5?

[idle light]

i checked 10.2

[keen spruce]

holy ptr is a ghosttown

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

Because why the fuck would u be on ptr right now

[bleak ivy]

bout to get on PoE and waste 26 hours a day to make a loop build and quit the game in 2 weeks

[slim hamlet]

Except a couple of nerds cooming over a bugfix

[keen spruce]

I didn't say i was shocked by this information

[slim hamlet]

[subtle tundra]

#1113808016773480489

[keen spruce]

it appears

to be working

[slim hamlet]

it does indeed

[drifting cloud]

can you still throw me in the ocean

[idle light]

not getting thrown into the sea today, lmaooo

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

Blindside still doesn't give any stacks but we never knew if this was intentional or not so

Neither does sanguine blades tho

[storm belfry]

[idle light]

yeah, the sanguine thing was still jacked

blindside not giving stacks sort of makes sense

[slim hamlet]

Thought that was fixes a long time ago, anyone knows how much dps loss that bug is?

[keen spruce]

it says energy spent, so if u don't spend energy with blindside

[slim hamlet]

I agree, people just dislike since u got no choice but to use it

[keen spruce]

maybe intended maybe not

who knows

[idle light]

yeah, i don't like seeing my tier stacks drop because of a free proc

[slim hamlet]

But yea reseting seems fixed, Sanguine blades still doodoo tho

[balmy condor]

Blindside intended

[slim hamlet]

Makes sense

[keen spruce]

sanguine tho?

[slim hamlet]

U know how much SB not contributing matters off the top of your head?

Mr purple man

He used vanish

gg

[keen spruce]

he on mobile

probably busy

[slim hamlet]

Wait

What do you mean

We all are here 24 hours a day?

Impossible

[white lance]

!bug

[keen spruce]

well we are

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[keen spruce]

not him

[slim hamlet]

Hmm

Didn't we come to the conclusion that we were all AI

[white lance]

this thing where sudden demise is not insta-killing in open world, could it be due to outdoor scaling?

[slim hamlet]

possible

Realz didn't rule it out

[molten drum]

For M+ only would you go bsl x2 or thorn boots

[white lance]

seems fine in dungeons so its my first guess

[slim hamlet]

what is bsl

[balmy condor]

Technically Bug I think but sanguine does report any energy costs in game so kinda difficult fix id think

[balmy condor]

Close to nothing

[keen spruce]

probably pretty marginal

[slim hamlet]

oh

[keen spruce]

ye

[slim hamlet]

well then

I didn't look at it enough in ptr to see how often we were at max stacks

[balmy condor]

I mean if it’s 2 a tick, tick every 2 seconds, 2 dots ticking, 4 energy every 2 seconds, 2 energy a second

That’s 1 stack on the 2 piece every 5 seconds

[sharp falcon]

recuperator?

[balmy condor]

That’s uh

Not impressive

[slim hamlet]

and I guess we are already capping in aoe

Recuperator?

[balmy condor]

@spice surge you’re up to bat on this one I just know it’s fucked somehow

[slim hamlet]

oh yea the bug

[spice surge]

It got fixed im fairly sure

[slim hamlet]

gl Eleem

[spice surge]

Can double check

[gleaming reef]

What's the @ symbol for whispers sims?

[spice surge]

Oh nope its not fixed

[gleaming reef]

!simc

[soft shale]

it breaks if you vanish with subter i think

[slim hamlet]

He doesn't have a sheet

if that's what u asking

[soft shale]

comes back sometimes weirdly

[gleaming reef]

I thought he made a ptr one

[slim hamlet]

Fuu has one and there is simcraft

[spice surge]

Seems to stop working when you vanish, but also sometimes by something else

[gleaming reef]

Thank you, fuus is what I was looking for

[sharp falcon]

i had to change how recuperator worked, but it worked, like 2 months ago when i changed it

[spice surge]

It works, until you vanish

[balmy condor]

No whispyr sims, people in 10.1 used whispyr sims to just compare between specs and whispyr doesn’t want to perpetuate that community degeneracy

[sharp falcon]

wtf would vanish change >_<

[gusty mirage]

dw I'll throw him in the ocean before he gets a chance to grab you

[sharp falcon]

ill look into it

annoying

[gleaming reef]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slim hamlet]

good luck

[soft shale]

maybe it does not recover state after vanish because of subter

[sharp falcon]

i am annoyed =p

[soft shale]

only thing i can think about

[sharp falcon]

it's just an aura applied when u have snd

[slim hamlet]

Subterfuge is a real weird one

[sharp falcon]

variable stealth states should have nothing to do with it

[soft shale]

it just gets lost in its way

yea no idea tbh

[sharp falcon]

yes, stealth/subterfuge is just my least favorite

[gusty mirage]

spaghet

[balmy condor]

Oh Realz while you’re here

Have a good Monday

[gusty mirage]

damn that's wholesome

[slim hamlet]

Cutie patootie

[earnest remnant]

what about Shadow techniques and premed?

[slim hamlet]

There is only 2 hours left of monday tho

[gusty mirage]

man where are all these sub one tricks coming from

[slim hamlet]

Keep coping buddy

[spice surge]

I got pinged

[sharp falcon]

not really spaghet, just very challenging overlapping states that create difficult logic puzzles because of all these sprawling interactions

[spice surge]

I have an excuse

[balmy condor]

Containment breach

[slim hamlet]

They heard the word "bug" and appeared

unstealthed some would say

[tropic tundra]

[spice spire]

They know of @balmy condor ‘s past

[spice surge]

[spice spire]

Don’t ever ask a man what his 9.1 main was

[spice surge]

Wait it stopped before vanish

[tame cloak]

man does assass feel really lackluster outside of kingsbane window

[gusty mirage]

I just assume something broke along the way these days. Seems inevitable with a game this old despite best efforts to update the engine tbh

[tame cloak]

like are we supposed to just pool and maintain dots

[spice surge]

Either way, theres something that makes it stop working during combat, not sure what exactly

[slim hamlet]

Welcome to burst spec

buckle in

[balmy condor]

Where were you when edge of night dropped

[vagrant hearth]

feels so hard to play without acrobatic strikes in m+ or raid

[spice spire]

I was there

That was when I supported the homie

[limber lion]

Recuperator does no damage, who cares

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

2p however

[gusty mirage]

you've changed

[sharp falcon]

yeah it's a separate aura now, it used to be your actual attack-speed-increasing buff that was also healing you

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-hello-hello-based-department-gif-26042779

[tame cloak]

[spice spire]

No he hasn’t

[misty relic]

Guys what is the best race for rogue PVE

[gusty mirage]

human

[vagrant hearth]

what i can drop in to get it?

[manic quartz]

yeah, scrab it and replace it with acro

[tame cloak]

toes spec

[gusty mirage]

like in game or irl realz?

[balmy condor]

Was this also true before dragonflight

[tame cloak]

best race

[sharp falcon]

im probably going to race change for sure

[spice spire]

Mind goblin is my favorite race Realz

Don’t let the haters keep you down

[gusty mirage]

dog

get back to work

[spice spire]

🫡

[oak sky]

wait a minute whats a mind goblin

[balmy condor]

I didn’t know they added briar to wow, what a crossover event

[spice spire]

Mind gobblin the content of wowhead.com to support whispyr?

[oak sky]

i would....

[slim hamlet]

he got got

[gusty mirage]

wowhead doesn't give him more money for clicks

[balmy condor]

It’s true

[spice spire]

Scam

[keen spruce]

mind gobblin his youtube content

[oak sky]

what if i left the page open

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

I don’t care if you read the guide

[spice spire]

There you go shmeep

[haughty flicker]

yeah fuck the guide

[balmy condor]

From a monetary stand point

[gusty mirage]

Read Seli's guide, he could use the money to buy happiness

[balmy condor]

From a mental stand point please read the guide

[gusty mirage]

[slim hamlet]

does IV give per click?

Time to switch

[oak sky]

shit i might read it so i can answer questions here for fun

[balmy condor]

Me opening icyveins sub guide and letting my keyboard hit f5 once every 5 seconds all night long

[slim hamlet]

Seli wouldn't fill the opener with 4 poison applications and entering stealth either

smh this wowhead writer

[gusty mirage]

gonna use that money to fly to california and kiss you on the forehead

[slim hamlet]

Not enough to fly back tho

gotta stay there

[gusty mirage]

ofc

if I'mma be homeless I'd rather it be somewhere warm

[stiff kernel]

So I should use the entire indiscrim carnage window to spread as many ruptures and garrotes as possible?

[balmy condor]

Watch it bucko you talk to me like that and I’ll make it refresh every 4 seconds instead buddy

[oak sky]

la was warm yesterday when a fire burned up part of the 10 freeway!

[balmy condor]

If you have enemies you can spread to, sure why not

[stiff kernel]

I'

[balmy condor]

Generally you either run out of enemies or you’re perma capped on energy and scent stacks

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-16014621646762423245

[balmy condor]

And then it’s kinda time to stop

[stiff kernel]

I'm just trying to figure out when trying to get caustic spatter / poison bomb out weighs trying to get more ruptures and garrotes but i cant really see it being a down side to get as many ruptures and garrotes out

[keen spruce]

rileyreidspreadit.png

idk i if i can post that in here

[stiff kernel]

its ok i can imagine

lmao

[keen spruce]

there

[drifting cloud]

whos riley reid shmeeps

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

It's an old TC'er

trust

[stiff kernel]

Should I try to get a caustic spatter out during my indiscriminate carnage window or just wait until the buff is gone?

[keen spruce]

some actress idk

[keen spruce]

it's good to get causting up asap

[tropic tundra]

About that @balmy condor can I translate the wowhead guide for assassination rogue and share it at the small online community I run?

Context: Wowhead for my region(KR) only translates News, updates, blueposts, etc. No class guides officially translated. I’ve been translating those - feral druid, havoc dh, demo warlock - after getting the confirmation via their class discord. I can send you those files if you’re interested, and I’ll make sure to write down the original contributor and wowhead link.

[slim hamlet]

Spatter really has every name possible

[stiff kernel]

so basically garrote > CB > Rup > CS then go back to Garrote/Rup spread while IC window is up then just poison bomb spam?

[keen spruce]

i just can't type

[slate crown]

to confirm seems like the set bonus is fixed on PTR?

[slim hamlet]

unluck

[slate crown]

is that what was said earlier?

[keen spruce]

let's just start calling it splat

[slim hamlet]

yep

[slate crown]

wooo

[slim hamlet]

Crossing fingers it already is on live with reset

[keen spruce]

I can't wait for the rage comments

[slim hamlet]

We dont know until we know tho

[keen spruce]

when there's a bugfix that gives assas 4-5% more damage

after all of the PI logs this week

[slim hamlet]

Bro people raged when it got a 4% of a 6% dmg buff

[keen spruce]

[flint tusk]

don't you mean. you can't wait for the rage comments because 'rogue'

[slim hamlet]

Literal 0.27% overall ST and people were redheaded

[flint tusk]

we get nerfed and people moan it's not enough and rage xD

[balmy condor]

Yeh sure

Sounds good to me

[tropic tundra]

Thank you!

[stiff kernel]

Also should you try to spatter multiple targets or just keep it up on one

[fallen forge]

whispyr while ur here