#assassination

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spice spire
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Blackvneck alone deserves the buffs

gusty mirage
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TRUE

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name another warlock named blackvneck that wears a blackvneck ingame

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I'll wait

drifting cloud
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why is blackvneck not doing splits

slim hamlet
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who is blackvneck

gusty mirage
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and my pally is 444

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lol

drifting cloud
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have fun

gusty mirage
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if you think

spice surge
gusty mirage
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I'm doing that shit

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for a third time

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you are high

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I have to push for infinite augment rune so I can secure WR 211

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very important

slim hamlet
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Saving a big 10k gold

spice surge
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I really dont like playing alts so i dont have one anymore

slim hamlet
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u just deleted it?

spice surge
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Eleemo the mistweaver saw some action in season one, but then he got bonked in a 22 and never woke up again

spice spire
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Eleemo

slim hamlet
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R.I.P. Eleemo

spice surge
gusty mirage
slim hamlet
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leemao

gusty mirage
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never recovered

slim hamlet
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ICANT

river cipher
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Keys with sin are fun now

gusty mirage
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@spice surge never recovered

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river cipher
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Its a mix between the best parts of legion and the best parts of bfa and I love it

spice spire
gusty mirage
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1 shot from 85% health

drifting cloud
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I remember we also did a somewhat high nl week1 and we got past worm I thought we are safe

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we were not safe

river cipher
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Week 1 dargrul was funny

gusty mirage
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I kept rolling NL week 1

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I wanted to scream

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"Oh let me try rerolling my key"

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"Neltharian's Lair"

slim hamlet
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idk what I am hoping to roll

gusty mirage
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"oh okay"

slim hamlet
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Dawn are good for our gear

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but at the same time the worst dungeons

gusty mirage
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oh sweet summer child

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throne of tides

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exists

slim hamlet
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Throne of tides is unironically decent

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there is nothing redeeming for dawn

gusty mirage
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I don't trust any dungeon with an elevator

slim hamlet
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besides art

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There is no elevator

spice surge
gusty mirage
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neat

slim hamlet
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ye

spice surge
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Or rather, theres a portal there instead

gusty mirage
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is the bonus boss still there?

slate crown
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but did they remove my memory of it?

slim hamlet
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yea

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bonus boss is needed

gusty mirage
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every old repurposed dungeon

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has been absolutely miserable

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except for shadowmoon

drifting cloud
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hey we used to kill that boss for the mount chance in timewalking!

spice surge
slim hamlet
gusty mirage
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iron docks, grimrail, vortex

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I SAID WHAT I SAID ELEEM

spice surge
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Only reason shadowmoon wasnt awful was that it was terrible easy

gusty mirage
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TEMPLE OF THE JADE SERPENT

drifting cloud
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docks were ok tbh

spice surge
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It was a nonfun dungeon

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
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Only actual BAD dungeon is VP

gusty mirage
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weekly 20

spice surge
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Jade was unfortunate for sure

drifting cloud
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nah jade is the worst one not even close

slim hamlet
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Jade was decent at the end

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idk why they waited 20 years for tuning it

spice surge
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So many kicks and stops required

drifting cloud
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on 20s yeah, but for push keys it was brutal

slim hamlet
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idk maybe it was bad

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before last boss

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the pulls were too stacked

spice surge
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Like why does every single mob need 2 or 3 spells that literally cant go off

slim hamlet
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too muh shit

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yea

raven egret
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I got a VP key this week. My key isnt going to be used this week.

slim hamlet
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alright

drifting cloud
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trash before last boss was hillarious

slim hamlet
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Jade and VP

spice spire
slim hamlet
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I am a MoP lover so I was blinded

gusty mirage
spice spire
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@wild lantern thoughts on Tenple of Jade Serpent trash?

spice surge
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But ye if you didnt push it was probably alright because those random casts/tank frontals wouldnt wipe you instantly if they went through

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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unlucky 3x casts of the tank buster

slim hamlet
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VP isn't even bad tbh

gusty mirage
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there goes your max ilvl tank just deadge

slim hamlet
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The dungeon as a whole

gusty mirage
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okay buddy

slim hamlet
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VP is bad because of one mob

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but it is sooo bad

gusty mirage
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VP is just bad

spice spire
slim hamlet
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that the whole dungeon is bad

gusty mirage
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the bosses aren't fun

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the trash isn't fun

slim hamlet
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No m+ is fun?

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whats your point

gusty mirage
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sure it is

spice surge
gusty mirage
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I had a blast in underoot

slim hamlet
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Freehold overhyped fr

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underrot bis bfa dung

plucky canopy
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wm bis bfa dungeon?!

gusty mirage
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well they removed the captains council rotation

plucky canopy
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underot isn´t even close

gusty mirage
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and nerfed the fuck out of the motivational pain thingy

velvet ridge
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yoooooOoOOoo, i just did a low key, golly GEE sudden demise POPS

slim hamlet
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Freehold is mid to me

drifting cloud
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underrot is a good dungeon, people appreciate it alot more than when it was current

slim hamlet
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everyone loves it

gusty mirage
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still no cragmaw mount

spice spire
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Underrot good

slim hamlet
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Sadge

velvet ridge
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good dungo /pet

slim hamlet
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just do the uldir achievement

drifting cloud
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nothing will ever be as bad as cathedral and seat on release ever probably

slim hamlet
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basically cragmaw

drifting cloud
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depleting them in MDI

slim hamlet
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Vault of wardens is on my top 3 worst dungs for sure

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stinky

gusty mirage
rotund crescent
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any1 know the WA addon that like... idk how to exactly explain but its like a bar that will show the icon of an ability when you use it

gusty mirage
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one team had 68 deaths

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6 minutes in

drifting cloud
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I remember watching exorsus do a like a low 20s cathedral on release

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for like almost 3h

gusty mirage
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imagine averaging 11 deaths a minute in the MDI

slim hamlet
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seems like a skill issue

drifting cloud
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yeah the world first guild from previous raid probably had skill issues

wild lantern
spice spire
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Krill issue tbh

slim hamlet
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^

velvet ridge
rotund crescent
shy pecan
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Oxi bullying people? NOPE

slim hamlet
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never

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surely not

gusty mirage
past forum
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I read that as “surely, never not”

gusty mirage
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"Jez it's fine, that pull is legit the roughest in the dungeon. You need to have defensives rolling or you just die."

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"WHY ARE YOU BULLYING ME?"

shy pecan
gusty mirage
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I will not be gaslit you fuck @wild lantern

slim hamlet
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I would believe it if he told me you are currently gaslighting him

gusty mirage
wild lantern
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I live rent free in oxi's head due to unresolved trauma

indigo mulch
slim hamlet
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how else would they move

gusty mirage
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I'm reporting you to homeland security

snow kindle
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How much value does atrophic bring to sark

balmy condor
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3%

snow kindle
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it shouldnt be that much right since it only affects his actual attacks

balmy condor
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It affects basically everything

grand trail
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or 3,6

balmy condor
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Except the damage from the beams in p1

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And some other shit idk

snow kindle
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I thought ppl said environmental things shouldnt work

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such as oblivion

balmy condor
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Yeah

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Oblivions not environmental though

gusty mirage
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the pulsing damage from the pillars

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in p3

balmy condor
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That’s sark damage

balmy condor
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So pillar pulse and the beam p1

snow kindle
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obvlivion isnt environmental? lol thats the most environmental shit in that fight

gusty mirage
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but yeah pretty much everything minus the adds & beam & pillars

snow kindle
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thats weird

balmy condor
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And the rest is sark damage

spice spire
balmy condor
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So

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GG

snow kindle
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i see

gusty mirage
spice surge
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And its also reduced by feint

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Perfect dot as far as im aware 🙂

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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if you look on damage taken on a log and sort it by taken from source

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it'll show you the breakdown of what's attributed to sark and what's environmental

slim hamlet
snow kindle
onyx rain
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In bigger pulls theres no reason to swap targets to add ruptures on ones that don't have it yet, right? IT - focus the prio target you have with caustic spatter buff?

gusty mirage
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ours for example

snow kindle
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got it ok ty

slim hamlet
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Anyways there is no reason not to take atrophic

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so just take it

gusty mirage
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it's a total 180 from vault

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they started attributing a lot more environmental-like abilities to the bosses

snow kindle
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@gusty mirage so from your fight atrophic stopped 9361800 mil

balmy condor
onyx rain
gusty mirage
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for the breath clears & the final beam clear

balmy condor
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It’s your target +2

onyx rain
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ah. yes

gusty mirage
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cause damage taken per second just shoots through the roof in p1

onyx rain
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swapping targets just seems chaotic with 7-10 mobs up

balmy condor
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Yeah you don’t really have to

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I’d rather take the L and just slam a second rupture on my main target tbh

onyx rain
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right

balmy condor
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Easier that way

oak lagoon
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Should you wait for the envenom buff to fall off before you envenom again?

balmy condor
oak lagoon
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ok thx you

slim hamlet
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huh

balmy condor
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I mean until you get tier

slim hamlet
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why

balmy condor
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Then obviously don’t

unborn ruin
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How confident are people that toxic thorn boots will be the way to go for raid after all the rebalancing

balmy condor
indigo mulch
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You heard it here.

oak lagoon
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cuz i mean if you just mutilate/ envenom nonstop you run out of energy pretty quickly no?

indigo mulch
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Whispyr said 100%

grand trail
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so i can send craft order?

oak lagoon
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or am i just dumb

split jewel
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during KB+SD in heavy aoe, would you want to spread garrote/rupture more or envenom?

slim hamlet
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100% confident until they 80% nerf is randomly

slate crown
balmy condor
spice spire
oak lagoon
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so only wait when you have the 4 piece im guessing

spice spire
slate crown
slim hamlet
balmy condor
spice spire
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💠 🙌

unborn ruin
slim hamlet
balmy condor
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Right now without tier it doesn’t matter if it drops

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With tier it would

oak lagoon
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ok so regardless just wait for like the last second i guess

balmy condor
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Ye

slate crown
oak lagoon
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oki thx u

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🙂

slate crown
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And personally, it feels good to manage to keep the volley ball in the air for a long time

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even without the tier set incentivizing me

unborn ruin
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Does Envenom pandemic at all

slim hamlet
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ye

snow kindle
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If you shiv with master poisoner does the dmg reduc go to 5.4%?

proud cosmos
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no, it's only damaging poisons

oak lagoon
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an other question should i craft the boots now? or you cant / or should wait

snow kindle
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negative

slim hamlet
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does work on numbing and crippling

slim hamlet
raven egret
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But what if they nerf it the week after that, uh!? 😛

slim hamlet
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too bad

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rage at blizzard

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no other way

oak eagle
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W Sin buff

vivid grail
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How is assassin's dps these days, is it close-ish to outlaw at all or still waaay behind ?

slim hamlet
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close

dark token
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Waaaaaaaaay behind sus

slim hamlet
sharp falcon
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teammate says he might have figured out why leeching drops when zoning

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praise

slim hamlet
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NO WAY

dark token
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Wow

eternal nymph
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Huge

past forum
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W

slim hamlet
sharp falcon
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could be premature but i trust

slim hamlet
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I am a believer

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I can finally get this dumb weakaura out of my face

balmy condor
sharp falcon
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if it gets hotfixed it would be pretty low on priority to get verified and applied to live realms, but not long in the grand scheme of things considering how long it's been doing that shit =x

slim hamlet
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And we thought we were only getting a 4% 4pc buff

odd ingot
balmy condor
sharp falcon
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0.27%, literally

slim hamlet
oak eagle
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oh shit, i just realized its realz

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i didnt know he was still in here

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W mans

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also would it fix it for all the specs? or just sin

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because im pretty sure ive noticed it on sub too

balmy condor
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Would be all specs

slim hamlet
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Thought it was a DTB issue

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was that just s1 thing

balmy condor
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It’s been dropping for a while regardless of talents

slim hamlet
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I remember s1 where all poisons dropped with dtb

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or something like that

balmy condor
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what

slim hamlet
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Am I smoking?

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surely not

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It's so vivid

misty holly
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There was a brief time that poisons dropped on zoning yes

slim hamlet
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pog

misty holly
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it did get fixed

hard coral
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are there any good sin raid builds for pre-s3 tier? the current 2 raid builds on wowhead for sin do attrociously low ST dmg in both sim and against dummy

slim hamlet
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The ones on wowhead are right

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It don't do low

balmy condor
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with those same builds

slim hamlet
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Don't u know logs are fake?

balmy condor
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sims fake, logs fake

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5 min on target dummy is forever

slim hamlet
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Real

hard coral
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okay thanks, just making sure there wasn't a better build, my gear must be too low on haste for the new build I guess

balmy condor
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that's not it

slim hamlet
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oh no

misty holly
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Yeah, gotta hit the haste breakpoints

slim hamlet
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We need a disclaimer for haste stuff

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Everyone thinks it's haste

balmy condor
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people have blamed haste for everything since legion

hard coral
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I just don't know what else could make sin do 30k less dmg than the current sub build

balmy condor
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this isn't new

slim hamlet
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it aint

marble hemlock
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Pebcak?

slim hamlet
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Read the 20 page rotation guide

balmy condor
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pebcak

slim hamlet
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pebcak?

balmy condor
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pebcak

slim hamlet
balmy condor
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google

marble hemlock
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Pebcak.

slim hamlet
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do i wanna?

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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oh

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lol

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never heard that before

torn atlas
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See also - End user error

slim hamlet
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Gonna use that on my guildies for sure

gusty breach
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tech support or phone answering moneys as we call them(its a joke, respect all workers)

hard coral
slim hamlet
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Man I have to wake up in 5 hours to see 10 chinese nerds battle it out on a digital battleground for money

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I love worlds season in lol

oak eagle
sand sigil
slim hamlet
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Here he is

gusty breach
slim hamlet
gusty breach
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asians started dominating in season2, and never stoped

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essentially

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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I mean this year was a disaster for western

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more than usual

oak eagle
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James is a massive W

gusty breach
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tbh, cant even care to follow, will watch the finals, but ye, cba

hard coral
dark token
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It's so bad with current gear

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Are people delusional

marble hemlock
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Both sims seem horrendously low, or is that just me?

slim hamlet
gusty breach
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boys, we gonna be doing double the damage in like 2-3 months

misty holly
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@balmy condor Can you explain taking Subterfuge for M+ build? Is that purely for ambushing from stealth if you don't need to garrote more than once? It doesn't seem to do anything with Shadow Dance.

hard coral
spice surge
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If you dont have subterfuge you wont do +10% dmg with those garrotes or ruptures

dreamy elk
slim hamlet
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Realz if you are still here in the shadows, is there any way subterfuge can last for like 2.9 secs instead so people with stealth bars doesn't get stutter when coming out of subterfuge. ok thanks 🙂

misty holly
hard coral
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@dreamy elk @marble hemlock guys it's the target dummy setting

marble hemlock
marble hemlock
slim hamlet
marble hemlock
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I think people kinda need to like... stop trying to do the DPS your sim is giving you. That's kinda not really what sims are for, imo.

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Especially when you're looking at it without buffs etc. That's not really what people optimize for.

Ofc assa is gonna look worse without bl, windfury etc when it's a spec that gets major boosts from stuff like that

dark token
slim hamlet
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No u would still get the same amount of casts

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Even if it was 2.01 seconds

dark token
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No, right now it's kinda rng slow to fall off and sometimes it's nightstalkered

hard coral
dark token
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Removing some duration would fix that

slim hamlet
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U will get same amount of casts if it is 2.01 or 3 seconds

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huh

dark token
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Not true

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Not how it works in game atm

slim hamlet
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seems like a ping issue

marble hemlock
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Sims are an approximation to help make choices for gear, talents, and figure out rotational changes that might affect your DPS one way or another. It's not a metric for "do this DPS or you suck"

slate crown
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You're both right.

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Now pls

dark token
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There is some stealth lag that causes the cast @ 3 sec to be sometimes nightstalker

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Or ambush on outlaw

slim hamlet
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it aint lagging by a full minute

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aintnoway

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second*

marble hemlock
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Oh boy

slim hamlet
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is it?

hard arrow
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you can't go to m0 new dungeons this week or am i blind?

marble hemlock
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We're basically back to "sometimes you can get 4 subterfuge garrotes" aren't we?

slate crown
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Seems like it

slim hamlet
dark token
marble hemlock
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I love that argument

slim hamlet
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Ok so that is a bug

slate crown
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I'm tired.

slim hamlet
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so what I am saying wouldn't change that

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right?

dark token
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I only know what to do with Garret 1 Garret 2 Garret 3

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What is Garret 4

random quarry
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maybe a dumb question but out of stealth am i just garroting and rupturing asa much as i can on aoe?

slim hamlet
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Its a name

marble hemlock
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I've only played about 2000 m+ as assa and have never ever gotten a fourth, but I'm sure that's exactly what's happening

dark token
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I mean you can see it easily with ambush

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On dummy

slim hamlet
dark token
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Sometimes 4 ambush sometimes 3

random quarry
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looks like you guys are talkinbg about it now

marble hemlock
slim hamlet
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Ok sure but my change would not have any effect

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the other one is a bug

dark token
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Is it a bug that you get 4

slim hamlet
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yes

slate crown
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Yes because it makes me want to eat bugs

dark token
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Or a bug that you get 3 and it should be 4

slim hamlet
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u should only get 3

dark token
slim hamlet
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Im 99% sure if u untalent imp garrote it will never happen

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It was discovered in df prepatch

dark token
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It's not a garrote thing

slim hamlet
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then u could do it 100% of the time

hard coral
dark token
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Literally happens outlaw subterfuge

slim hamlet
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No i know

dark token
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It's a subterfuge thing

slim hamlet
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But its because subterfuge and imp garrote cant go off on the exact same tick

gaunt moat
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!mute @slim hamlet

slim hamlet
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So it chooses one

marble hemlock
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???

slim hamlet
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and gives u a split second more

spiral salmon
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Have they fixed the 2 set bonus? It was bugged a while ago right ?

dark token
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Not talking about during AR

spice surge
slate crown
slim hamlet
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I mean we found this out in df prepatch

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never happened without imp garrote, happened 100% with it

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Anyways it's a bug

dark token
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It happens on outlaw 🥶

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What's with the improved garrote

slim hamlet
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so we shouldn't be taking a good possible change away for a bug

dark token
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Not talking about that

marble hemlock
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Show log

slim hamlet
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I jsut told u

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I mean we found this out in df prepatch
never happened without imp garrote, happened 100% with it

dark token
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Alright I'll dm u tomorrow

slim hamlet
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Maybe not that anymore

dark token
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I'm in bed

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Was reliably happening in s1 on outlaw, haven't checked since because it honestly doesn't matter

slim pebble
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
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we didn't follow it since u never took subterfuge on sin

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so idk what happened after

balmy condor
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return to mulch eating

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I love mulch

lime violet
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
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I am a fan too

dark token
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And currently it happens with rupture

slim hamlet
dark token
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So idk this garrote thing

slim hamlet
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Look

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I just told u

slate crown
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I never should have made snapshot weakauras

slim hamlet
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WHy i said garrote

spice surge
dark token
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I alternate mulch and discord

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Yum

slim hamlet
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Why not both same time?

dark token
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I put full focus on each one

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Can't multitask

slim hamlet
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Dedication

balmy condor
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but here we are

slim hamlet
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Was that how u ended up here?

ornate jetty
balmy condor
slim hamlet
dark token
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Where did you find a veteran ring

slim hamlet
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Wait a second

dark token
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I thought highest gear RN was adventurer

slim hamlet
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"simmed people"

ornate jetty
slim hamlet
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aint no way u needed a 3rd party to sim

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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not what I meant

balmy condor
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people tier list

dark token
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I'm in f tier

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Ur in W tier

slim hamlet
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Did you scan their faces and make them in the hip game sim4?

dark token
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@marble hemlock is s tier

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Seems accurate

storm forum
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I'm in L tier

slim hamlet
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A tier

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Pog

spice surge
marble hemlock
crude pasture
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u guys holding on to the rep tokens till thursday?

slim hamlet
dark token
storm forum
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I'm holding rep tokens cause its funny

slim hamlet
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but i also dont care

crude pasture
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same here

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i think i wanna slam

dark token
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Because it's not guaranteed to work with anniversary

crude pasture
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yeaaa

dark token
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We don't know

marble hemlock
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Also, can you make a tier list of all the people you met at blizzcon? @balmy condor

slim hamlet
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why wouldn't it work with anniversary

dark token
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It should but if it doesnt

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Ur fucked

slim hamlet
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oh they sometimes have the "x is excluded"

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with new patches right

dark token
slim hamlet
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aintnoway whispyr is cooking this long when talking about a people tier list

crude pasture
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they did it with loam niffen during d4

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disabled it

dark token
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Yeaaah that makes me wanna send it even more

slim hamlet
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when is the mental disorder tier list dropping?

balmy condor
# slim hamlet aint no way u needed a 3rd party to sim

but nah back in bfa raidbots was still on the newer side and there was a fuck ton of combinations with like bad items good corruptions, good items bad corruptions. Basically impossible for any normal rogue to know whats better or worse and they would just go over the sim limit instantly so I had to step in and sim people cause the chat was a flood of essentially just "should I use a 415 with infinite stars or a 470 with nothing, I also have a 445 with expedient but idk if I hit the haste breakpoint with that (we had two back then), but I also have a 450 with crit and Im not playing exsang right now should I be?"

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and it was like

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5 people at a time

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forever

dark token
slim hamlet
#

oof

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I know what I would've done

d9f57c165adc8eba5a37fd503bba47f8.png
dark token
#

I know what I did

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Buy the $10 a month for more combinations

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For my corruption sims

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That's how raidbots got me

scarlet aspen
#

is the 4pc buff meaning that we don't get fixed on 2pc, to even out the dps lost?

slim hamlet
#

At that time of my wow career I would have just taken the haste because it sounded more funner

dark token
#

Now I'm too used to 16m iterations and can't go back

slim hamlet
dark token
#

So I'm still paying to this day

slim hamlet
#

We dont know if we get bugfix but definitely not

silk bane
#

@midnight mist #assassination message confirmed. outlaw opop. crackshto changing to not so cracked anymore shot confirmed. uhuh extends subterfuge by 0.99 sec confirmed. joever kid. now we get no dust buffs copium no_dust

spice spire
slim hamlet
#

I have never had a reason to sim over what the cheap simc can do

spark scaffold
#

are the current bugs kept track of somewhere?

past forum
slim hamlet
#

I love that gif

scarlet aspen
#

so if 2pc is fixed and 4pc buff, isn't sin ST so strong?

gentle belfry
#

How are 4pc ST sims looking now over outlaw?

slim hamlet
#

the buff is a 0.27% buff overall

subtle kiln
scarlet aspen
#

oh so the buff is not that huge

gentle belfry
slim hamlet
#

nop

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Think it was mostly for some tooltip stuff

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To make it look nicer

scarlet aspen
#

so what really matters is still the 2pc bug fix i think

slim hamlet
#

kinda sus

slim hamlet
storm forum
#

I'm hoping its a typo and its actually a 400% buff or something

slim hamlet
#

Quick 1 mil dps

subtle kiln
balmy condor
#

turns out 4% of 6%

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is not a lot of %

slim hamlet
storm forum
#

what about 400% of 6%?

slim hamlet
#

at least 2

balmy condor
#

that's a big number

subtle kiln
#

3

slim hamlet
#

I could see it being 3 yea

subtle kiln
storm forum
#

its an 18% buff

#

maybe too much of a buff

bright cipher
kindred rapids
#

It's obvious we're doing way more damage now even if sims went down

subtle kiln
#

UH buffs are just redistributing Aug nerfs

storm forum
#

40% buff to 6% is a 2.4% buff

kindred rapids
#

Not sure why ppl are worried

storm forum
#

that would have been nice

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sims dont have PI or augvoker or WFT right?

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and we're definitely going to get all of those right?

balmy condor
balmy condor
storm forum
#

we're doomed

subtle kiln
#

assa worst rogue spec again sigh

hoary isle
#

so what did they do ? fixed bug or what

bright cipher
#

the important part is that its fun!

slim pebble
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
slim hamlet
balmy condor
#

you mean todays patch?

hoary isle
#

ye

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I mean what does the first line mean ..

balmy condor
#

they fixed the wording on the tooltip

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cause the tooltip was wrong

gray crest
#

we doomin again

slim hamlet
#

next reset fo sho

storm forum
#

my life goal is to doom

slim hamlet
gray crest
#

I cant believe im saying this, but at least outlaw is kinda cool

dark token
#

Man I actually hallucinated and thought the first bugfix said 2pc instead of 4pc

slim hamlet
#

is sin not cool?

dark token
#

I was so hyped

dark token
subtle kiln
slim hamlet
dark token
#

Even sub is cool and I am becoming stockholm syndromed with dust and actually kinda liking it

gray crest
#

they are. but you know whats not cool?

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sub with dust

subtle kiln
#

borat would would be an assa rogue

slim hamlet
#

sub with dust is based

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Only reason sub looks remotely playable gameplaywise for me

storm forum
slim hamlet
#

wp

silk bane
gray crest
#

sub without dust has the best gameplay sub has had in a while imo

dark token
#

Im ok with dust, I don't like ER sub tho that needs to die

silk bane
#

dust is fine to exist if it serves its purpose: to change cd timers

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if its default base option for any situation

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then its no longer good

dark token
#

I mostly like dust cause of m+ tbf

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St feels kinda weird still

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But having flexibility to decide whether to burst something now or save for boss is cool

silk bane
#

i mean thats kinda w/e. like think about it like this

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if youre doing a high enough key

dark token
#

They need to fix tornado tho

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That ability is ass

silk bane
#

you are going to have a path

#

u know how long each pack is gonna take

dark token
#

It needs to be full cp during blades

silk bane
#

how big each pulls gonna be

slim hamlet
silk bane
#

so from there, u can decide if u want 2 min huge pulls or smaller pulls by shorter cds

dark token
#

Yeah I haven't memorized routes for this season

#

No point with Aug in game

haughty flicker
#

cant escape the dust debate

#

it follows everywhere

dark token
#

Sub without dust is good

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Sub with dust is good

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It's almost like

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Sub is good

silk bane
#

sub with tornado

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no good

dark token
#

Hmmmmm

#

I agree tornado most disappointing talent in the game

silk bane
#

no thats goremaw

dark token
#

I'd rather talent goremaws than tornado

shut owl
#

so... is our 4p now 50% increased to 154% bonus damage to single target or is it 54% increased by 150%? I was a bit confused by it XD

dark token
#

And I think goremaw is boring af

slim hamlet
dark token
#

At least it doesn't make me wanna die when I press it during CDs and it doesn't fill ms

shut owl
#

why is dust debate in sin

dark token
#

Goremaws is just I hit and forget

dark token
slim hamlet
dark token
#

And better than usual content of "omg outlaw sim so high omg sin sim so low spec bad"

gray crest
#

sin is just off topic 2 tbh

silk bane
gray crest
#

and its been like that for a long time

slim hamlet
balmy condor
#

when it's actually assa chat the average iq drops like 45 points

slim hamlet
#

It's off topic x dooming x "is sin ok or just go outlaw"

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That's why it's version 2

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spice it up

balmy condor
#

almost tempted to just like

silk bane
#

it is off topic though

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sometimes too much sin discussion

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but im always here to bring it back

balmy condor
#

put a 10s slowmode

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for the next 2 weeks

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and see what happens

subtle kiln
slim hamlet
balmy condor
#

give people just a couple seconds between brain vomits to think through what they're typing

subtle kiln
#

in game simulator

slim hamlet
silk bane
#

im just in the week2 tuning patch waiting room rn

slim hamlet
#

Its rough in DK discord

silk bane
#

just wanna watch outlaw have a civil war

balmy condor
#

guess you'd have to think through what you're typing

slim hamlet
#

I need to think to write the whole thing instead of just sending it after every 2nd sentence

warm void
slim hamlet
subtle kiln
#

DK discord is amazing

gray crest
silk bane
slim hamlet
balmy condor
#

we'll try it tomorrow perhaps

slim hamlet
#

I said it right 😠

balmy condor
#

during prime time

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like a 10-30 second slow mode

slim hamlet
#

10 sec is good

balmy condor
#

somewhere in there

silk bane
#

whats happening tmrw?

slim hamlet
#

DK's 30 sec = no one is chatting

balmy condor
#

just for a couple hours

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and then we turn off again

silk bane
#

its a saturday with nothing new no?

balmy condor
#

and assess

slim hamlet
#

asses

subtle kiln
proven jasper
slim hamlet
#

hihi

balmy condor
slim hamlet
#

.27% buff?

#

"nothing new"?

silk bane
#

i mean u got a massssssive 4% buff ot a 6% tier

#

thats not nothing

balmy condor
#

I said what I said

silk bane
#

its big

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huge even

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massive

slim hamlet
#

gigantic

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in my eyes

silk bane
#

giga

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turbo even

severe sparrow
#

there was a convo i wanted to read earlier and i cant remember what it was

#

but it's too hard to scroll back after all that

slim hamlet
#

prolly nothing

silk bane
slim hamlet
balmy condor
minor gate
#

Well it said 4% in single target so I thought it was like 150% to 154%

silk bane
blazing jewel
#

kb goodge

slim hamlet
#

Less than .1% OMEGAKEKW

silk bane
#

i dont even wanna be in your heaven. imma be in dust hell with racoon boy and dk coping abotu no dust

slim hamlet
#

hear me out

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if dust sucks

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open talent page

severe sparrow
#

angel dust though

slim hamlet
#

right click it

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click another talent

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clcik apply

balmy condor
#

not how multipliers work

#

but right idea

haughty flicker
silk bane
minor gate
slim hamlet
silk bane
#

unironically though, its like kinda fun this tier. 2 min bosses we go kb go brrrrrr, 1.5 min bosses we go dust go not so brrrr

dark token
#

It went to 156%

balmy condor
minor gate
#

Yeah

balmy condor
#

so whatever the base * the multiplier is

#
  • 1.04
slim hamlet
#

I have an idea that Realz was just OCD and rounded the number up

#

would've done the same

silk bane
#

dude

#

eleem said the same thing

#

great minds think alike i guess

slim hamlet
#

Comparing Eleem to me

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Good thing he is not here

dark token
#

Wdym rounded number up

slim hamlet
#

if it did like 21445 dmg it now does 22000

#

for example

minor gate
dark token
#

That's a highly specific example that lands on an even number, you just took 22000*.66

slim hamlet
#

huh

dark token
#

Not sure the point here

minor gate
slim hamlet
#

how is 22000*.66 ever 21445

#

I diddnt do any math

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It was an example

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of what rounding up means

haughty flicker
slim hamlet
#

^

dark token
#

4% is a weird number that isn't round tho

hexed willow
haughty flicker
#

just like buffing deathmark by 13% means 13 is realz favorite number

slim hamlet
#

bruh

dark token
#

And it turns into a 156% buff

#

So like I don't get it idk

slim hamlet
#

its ok

#

not everyone gets everything

silk bane
#

pls elaborate

slate crown
slim hamlet
haughty flicker
#

we all know the reason

slim hamlet
#

Probably because they're a fan of ying and yang

haughty flicker
#

blizz gets freaky with it

runic hinge
#

So I did a few keys finally and holy this spec is so fun

slim hamlet
#

Here is the symbolism of the number 69: 69 is a sign sent from your guardian angels that it's time to turn your attention to your family life, the harmony of the home, deepening compassion, and working with the divine realm to find your true life path.

lucid silo
#

Being out of the country this whole week feels really bad lol

slim hamlet
#

Wait who popped guardian angels on me irl

#

I am full hp

dark token
#

If he wanted to round up he would have buffed it by like 6.6%, that makes it 160

keen spruce
slim hamlet
keen spruce
slim hamlet
#

I am talking about the number number

#

not any percentages

#

its not that deep

#

Just a small meme

dark token
#

Aight

lucid silo
#

Is sin bis on prog now

blazing jewel
#

yea its bis for dreamsurge weekly prog

dark token
#

It's insane now

runic hinge
silk bane
#

ive heard their tier was almost 600% and they buffed it by another 4000%

#

insane

misty holly
#

Didn't whispyr say it needed a 500% buff at one point.

slim hamlet
#

Yea

#

496 to go

balmy condor
past forum
dark token
#

Also unholy was alright (just not S tier) why did it get like 15% buff lmao

blazing jewel
silk bane
dark token
#

It's like it MUSt be on top

#

It's in top 6

slim hamlet
#

Also that aint a 15% buff right?

balmy condor
dark token
#

People are matching it out

past forum
blazing jewel
grim tangle
#

it was like a 4% buff of dk

haughty flicker
slim hamlet
#

It was 3.7% buff @dark token

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Close tho

indigo ether
dark token
#

Don't see anything on dk discord yet

slim hamlet
#

It is there

#

Unholy main pins

haughty flicker
#

bro it took like 3 seconds

dark token
#

Ah it's in other channel

slim hamlet
#

Yep

haughty flicker
#

no flame but lol

slim hamlet
#

Krill issue

past forum
#

ability concern

slim hamlet
#

Packek or whatever seli said earlier

balmy condor
#

pebcak

slim hamlet
#

That one

past forum
#

sauce packet?

dark token
#

I blame mobile not letting me see pins KEKW, and I did check their announcement/q&a channel tbf. I thought the other channel was the social one

slim hamlet
#

Ye

solid mica
grim tangle
blazing jewel
slim hamlet
keen spruce
dark token
#

And exaggerated for effect

blazing jewel
#

you will spend 5 hours on the target dummies and you will like it bozos

dark token
#

Like I usually do

#

And the numbers look big in blue post form

grim tangle
#

yeah like shiv 20% buff looks big

silk bane
#

massive

#

enormous even.

#

gigantic

slim hamlet
#

To me they looked doggy

dark token
#

Ok when something tiny like shiv gets buffed u know it's small

#

When something called apocalypse gets buffed

slim hamlet
#

Only they main abilities which is dog dmg

dark token
#

You assume it's big

slim hamlet
#

5% starege

dark token
#

Shiv small knife

#

Apocalypse

grim tangle
#

yeah so you straight up don't know anything about uhdk

dark token
#

End of planet

haughty flicker
#

it aint that deep mr color

dark token
#

It ain't that deep

keen spruce
dark token
#

I make most numbers up

balmy condor
#

it wasn't me this time

silk bane
#

its always you

dark token
#

Especially at 4 am

slim hamlet
dark token
#

Night surfing discord

blazing jewel
balmy condor
blazing jewel
#

from a wotlk disc

haughty flicker
#

ew

balmy condor
#

that doesn't answer my question

blazing jewel
#

idk

haughty flicker
#

classic containment breach

blazing jewel
silk bane
#

Stealthi this is stealthi for soem reason

blazing jewel
indigo ether
earnest remnant
blazing jewel
keen spruce
royal lantern
blazing jewel
haughty flicker
balmy condor
keen spruce
blazing jewel
#

if pleb doesnt want me to play sin why does he have the sin role in this server HMM

silk bane
balmy condor
#

because he's based

royal lantern
steel spire
balmy condor
#

that's me just thinking about opening the channel

silk bane
#

never have to open the channel if you never leave it

keen spruce
#

reading classic

#

imagine not using TTS for every message in assas

silk bane
#

^ pretty sure that deserves jail time

bright cipher
#

are we posting cats?

balmy condor
#

TTS for assa messages is a CIA blacksite torture method

bright cipher
balmy condor
silk bane
#

NOW I WANT BOOTS PICS

#

WHERE ENDWYR WHEN U NEED HER

bright cipher
#

sadge

royal lantern
#

ayooo

#

aug nerfs

steel spire
keen spruce
#

the 450 dreamsurge gear catalyzes into LFR transmog

pallid bough
#

seems normal

steel spire
#

Lfr mog be rare af worthStonks

blazing jewel
balmy condor
pallid bough
#

xd

balmy condor
#

I think 1.3 million intellect is pretty reasonable

pallid bough
#

yeah

#

shh I am trying to gaslight warlocks into getting nerfed

blissful yoke
#

Any clue what the total gain from assass tier set is gonna be?

balmy condor
#

compared to no tier

#

or old tier

blissful yoke
#

me no good math, no tier

balmy condor
#

compared to no tier it's around 15%

blissful yoke
#

Isn't that kinda high for a tier set? or am i wrong?

balmy condor
#

it's pretty average

drifting light
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

2 piece is like 9%, 4 piece is around 6%

#

9% is maybe a bit high

#

but like

#

it's in the realm of normal

blissful yoke
#

hype

#

also extremely important question. What happens to exsang role if exsang isn't there?

balmy condor
#

it gets renamed to sanguine blades at some point

haughty flicker
#

cant rename this tho

blissful yoke
haughty flicker
#

except for sanguwuine

steel spire
rotund oak
#

im gonna do so much dmg ❤️

vivid grail
#

Why does our dslice sim so low , i'm seeing similar numbers on the 5 target dummy pack as outlaw but our dslice sim is like 60k less

balmy condor
#

dslice just perma stinks for rampy dot specs

#

the number dslice spits out isn't really all that important

dire jackal
#

i suppose cause trash in dungeons dies too quickly

balmy condor
#

dslice is supposed to represent a combination of situations and target counts and stuff

#

just to mix everything into one big pot

#

and it does that great

#

but it's not designed to be like "you should be doing X damage" or anything like that

#

it's a made up fight that generally estimates what a section of a dungeon could look like

candid goblet
#

any word on whats the overall buff from the recent tuning?

balmy condor
#

0.2%

haughty flicker
#

huge

candid goblet
#

Assa saved

balmy condor
#

assa never needed to be saved