assassination

[sharp falcon]

should be very generous

[simple silo]

I mightve missed it in the guide, is there a generally accepted best paracausal trinket for catchup gear

[spice surge]

Replicating should work exactly as IC

[dark token]

yeah exactly

[indigo mulch]

I feel like spatter is fine as it is o.O

[dark token]

old IC was huge range

[sharp falcon]

old ic was 10yd radius iirc

[dark token]

i think it was around the target, not around your character

[keen spruce]

I mean i'm measuring with rocks on the floor of valdrakken

[slim hamlet]

The reason I think it should be more is because of some fights in the raid where u can move around and hit all with IC, but as spatter is off your target and not you, you are not able to hit all. The specific fight I am thinking off is Igira spears, things like that

[dark token]

especially when we take acrobatic strikes it gets really awkward cleaving near your max range

[keen spruce]

so 9 or 10yd sounds right

[sharp falcon]

p sure it was around self, old ic, i could check but relatively sure

[fallen forge]

i thought i smoked too much weed but ig whispyr is just multilingual

[slate crown]

Yes this can happen

If you have Spells learned Load conditions, or Spell triggers that use name and not Spell ID

I've had this happen as well with shadowlands stuff

[balmy condor]

you need to be around for when I get drunk, then you'll see me bust out the spanish

[slim hamlet]

not again

[indigo mulch]

[fallen forge]

vod pls

thats like 4 languages

[limber lion]

Pretty sure it was yeah. Reworked one worked similarly to Double-Clawed Rake but with giga range until it was changed a few weeks back

[balmy condor]

4am standing in the middle of my room zooted out of my mind packing for blizzcon asking ptr-assassination where my pants are, not getting an answer, and then asking again in spanish

very cool

[keen spruce]

I think the pain point is that you have limited globals to spread empowered garrotes and they're often while the pack is being gathered and spread out. Missing an IC more impactful than missing a replicating shadows

[indigo mulch]

[oblique jackal]

Hey guys! im a returning player.. Just wanting to put good energy out there! The new sin design for m+ and raids feeels so damn good!\

[balmy condor]

true!

[slim hamlet]

I still think spatter is a bigger issue than IC range

[keen spruce]

[limber lion]

Hell yeah it does

[slim hamlet]

gaming indeed

[indigo mulch]

Omg someone who is positive! Get him!

[slim hamlet]

Don't let him escape!

[dark token]

i mean im very positive about the spec, sin is in the best spot its been gameplay wise in a while

[fallen forge]

I really love the st rotation but the m+ gameplay feels too tedious for me

[dark token]

im just nitpicking on t he few things that prevent me from picking it over sub or outlaw in keys

would love to play it more

[indigo mulch]

I actually agree abit, how AoE is kinda annoying to do lmao

[eternal ferry]

Im so happy as well, best sin we had in years, or even ever? I liked wotlk sin though

[oblique jackal]

why complain?! it feels smooth!

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-announce-spinning-speaker-gif-16670490

[sharp falcon]

u dont have to do tab dot shenanigans to make it work imo, just CT stuff, pick a target to prio, and ride Caustic to the bank

[oblique jackal]

i'm seeing huge progress from realz! dude deserves huge praise. Hopefully he will continue with great things

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-meme-gif-16107418

[fallen forge]

yeah its most likely just overcomplicating it. plus its day 1 for me on new patch and i didnt mess around with ptr

[indigo mulch]

Okay maybe i'm like stepping on someone toes here but like.. Will there be any fixes for our 2p? 😮

[fallen forge]

there'll be an adjustment period for sure

[eternal ferry]

always

[sharp falcon]

fwiw, i think IC is improved but still not perfect. I wouldn't fault anyone for finding some manner of annoyance with it

[raven egret]

AoE wise, like Realz said, picking prio target works wonders. My biggest issue is making sure I still do good ST boss damage with a M+ build. I got better at it today but still rough!

[slim hamlet]

Sin is so conditional for aoe now, once we learn all the prios for different situations we gaming

[fallen forge]

yea but dont we lose giga damage if the kb target dies

[slim hamlet]

I think the general concences (idk how to spell that) is that IC is rly rly nice, but the range just feels weird

[rare jackal]

i think the work on the new rogue has been a huge W all things considered

[runic hinge]

consensus

[raven egret]

Not really, you can still perfectly damage groups, its much easier to do AoE trash packs than ST bosses imo

[keen spruce]

I think the pain point is that you have limited globals to spread empowered garrotes and they're often while the pack is being gathered and spread out. Missing an IC more impactful than missing a replicating shadows.

but overall I think the change since last patch is great. the whole gameplay loop is like 10000x better.

[slim hamlet]

That word looks so fake

[sharp falcon]

google could help you, but also, "consensus"

[balmy condor]

gottem

[limber lion]

Yeah, it's just that because it's on you now, it forces you to be between the mobs that you want to Gar/Rup. So in a hallway type of scenario (most of Mythic+) you end up having to wait before you can open on the pulled packs

[balmy condor]

holy shit

[slim hamlet]

Googling takes so long

[runic hinge]

all words are made up

[balmy condor]

[raven egret]

just make sure you pick your target correctly, like in Uldaman you'd KB the golem, not the small dwarf thing

[slim hamlet]

True

[limber lion]

But I'm sure people will forget about it in a week or two

when they get used to it

Me included

[indigo mulch]

prob

[balmy condor]

also squiggly line built in

[slim hamlet]

I am danish

[keen spruce]

@slim hamlet damn the dev just told your ass to google it nerd

[slim hamlet]

Every engliosh word is squiggly

[balmy condor]

sorry to hear that

[limber lion]

On Feral I'm just so used to spamming my Rake button as soon as I can

[fallen forge]

you'll be in my prayers

[limber lion]

but on Assa I kinda have to wait for the packs to group up again, which wasn't the case with the reworked IC until the recent change

[fallen forge]

[limber lion]

But it's fine, I'm sure

[rare jackal]

spatter doesnt really reach the igara spears right?

[limber lion]

Idk man, I'm yapping

[slim hamlet]

Google deez nuts bucko

[balmy condor]

nop

doesn't spatter enough to reach

[rare jackal]

dang

[sharp falcon]

kuncennciss

[slim hamlet]

Yea things like that is definitely my biggest and really only complaint

[balmy condor]

need a follow up talent, pressurized spatter

[runic hinge]

[slim hamlet]

Since u can move around with IC but not spatter

[balmy condor]

so make the spatter 5 yards more

[oblique jackal]

Did anyone meet realz at blizzcon?

[rare jackal]

indiscriminate spatter

[balmy condor]

now we're cooking

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[indigo mulch]

[slim hamlet]

or just AS working with spatter honestly

For the situations where it matters it would prob matter enough

[balmy condor]

yeah but then we'd have TheAcroConvo™️

[slim hamlet]

We will have that no matter what

o7

[fallen forge]

gib acro for free pls

[raven egret]

Nah, Acro is dead, nothing to see here

[strange python]

but what about Indiscriminate Acrobatics

[fallen forge]

i keep afking in keys bc i thought i was in melee

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-cooking-fresh-prince-of-bel-air-fresh-prince-gif-17607703

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[slim hamlet]

^

[balmy condor]

I keep meleeing in keys bc I thought I was afk

we are not the same

[keen spruce]

it's almost like acro would have gained you dps and is maybe worth considering

[slim hamlet]

but muh sim dps?

[eternal ferry]

with those stupid meele mechanics in s3 it is worth the dps loss for me

[indigo mulch]

I was writing something about acro, but then i triggered myself.

and deleted it.

[slim hamlet]

Isn't acro build only 2.5% behind in m+?

[balmy condor]

based

[indigo mulch]

How is those platers coming along whispyr? 😄

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/grind-time-grind-penguin-walking-back-to-work-gif-15472892

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/shin-jimin-jimin-whip-whiplash-whipping-gif-2138759746514316819

[fallen forge]

let the poor man rest

[fallen forge]

whispyr when video guides coming

[slim hamlet]

This is fake

99.99% of the population is middle

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[fallen forge]

damn that background color looks nice

[slim hamlet]

You look nice

[indigo mulch]

So does the tree outside your house.

[balmy condor]

it's pretty nice indeed

big fan

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[candid geyser]

Whispyr is so spoiled these days. Used to be genuine and always getting those platers out for the community. Now he’s just farming YouTube and twitch subs. $$$ changes a man.

[indigo mulch]

I just like trees.

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-hello-hello-based-department-gif-26042779

[candid geyser]

I’ve seen his giga insane YouTube revenue

[slim hamlet]

that one monster a month

[balmy condor]

yeah me and my like 15 cents an hour

[fallen forge]

aww shit is that discord nitro thing

[runic hinge]

He's getting paid in bitches

[slim hamlet]

holy

fact or cap whispyr?

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah I guess so

[balmy condor]

to what

[fallen forge]

[balmy condor]

my revenue or my bitches

[slim hamlet]

^

[limber lion]

He's so based.

[balmy condor]

I have a singular bitches

and she is lovely

[fallen forge]

i agree

[limber lion]

A top tier administrator moderator man, still keeps every channel permamuted

[slim hamlet]

I cannot imagine not having everything muted on discord

[fallen forge]

i had my raid leader on permamute ever since he called for stop dps on sire p1

i was a boomkin back then

[candid geyser]

Yeah mom is super nice.

[slim hamlet]

wat

[slow needle]

It shows pings which is the important bit.

[balmy condor]

I'll make sure to tell her that

[fallen forge]

i was a boomkin

[sharp falcon]

"your mom says hi"
"your mom says hi"

"jinx!"
"jinx!"

[slim hamlet]

Yea I figured that was the problem

[fallen forge]

im a reformed man i promise

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[fallen forge]

[balmy condor]

our mother

wait this is wow not d4

[sharp falcon]

blessed mother

save us

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-sus-gif-12038320933253907802

[slim hamlet]

our mother = xal'atath

[spice surge]

These zoomers dont get it man 🧓

[sharp falcon]

literally, also ty for saving me i was sweating

[thorny smelt]

yall anyone got a build for t30 here?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[thorny smelt]

my talents got fucked

[fallen forge]

my only mommy is jaina and i will not hear otherwise

[slim hamlet]

Wrong

U will convert

Just u wait

[fallen forge]

wait that was a reference?

👶 me rn

[slim hamlet]

I still don't get it

[indigo mulch]

A build for t30? O_o

[fallen forge]

🫂

[indigo mulch]

What do you mean by that?

[thorny smelt]

tier 30 tier set

[slim hamlet]

wowhead.com

[vague lion]

pins

[slim hamlet]

Same build

even with no tier

[thorny smelt]

oki

[wary moth]

Came here to discuss about Assassination, wasn't disappointed.

[indigo mulch]

Talk about tier... is t31 2p going to get fixed or is it intended as it is? :p

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/happymothersday-snl-justintimberlake-andysamberg-lonely-island-gif-11192711

[spice surge]

https://youtu.be/Pi7gwX7rjOw?si=J_qG-zL7TZieW-N4

[slim hamlet]

it is deffo not intended

[slim hamlet]

This HAS to be some omega boomer shit

[limber lion]

That's a throwback holy

[slim hamlet]

U can just see it

[sharp falcon]

giga omega

[balmy condor]

no shot you don't know lonely island

[spice surge]

12 years ago

[indigo mulch]

How do you guys not know this?

D:

[slim hamlet]

I was 8

12 years ago

[balmy condor]

oh god

[indigo mulch]

Oh.

Its a baby!

[sharp falcon]

hide the alcohol

[slim hamlet]

[limber lion]

Threw it on the ground was my fav

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/a-child-vine-vines-only-thing-worse-than-a-rapist-child-gif-17395596

[slim hamlet]

I live in Denmark got my first beer at age 2

dont worry

[fallen forge]

wtf thats that old singer dude and b99 guy

[limber lion]

Bless

[balmy condor]

it's always humbling to know that I get bullied for being the youngest usually

and there's people out there younger than me

sometimes I can't believe it

[slate crown]

same

[slim hamlet]

I was told rogue was the zoomer class

It was all a lie

[strange python]

We move to the blue hair now

[limber lion]

Wrong spec

[sharp falcon]

outlaw maybe

[slim hamlet]

yea

[eternal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-angry-gif-7517409

[slim hamlet]

Feel like a good amount of the zoomer rogues went DH

[fallen forge]

it helps to have a younger brother

[runic hinge]

Even the dev knows

[fallen forge]

free punching bag too

[runic hinge]

I suppose you need to know your target audiences

[candid geyser]

I did one outlaw key hand hurt. Sin keys so relaxing and calculated.

[balmy condor]

zoomer spec for sure

[sharp falcon]

oof

[slim hamlet]

I'll let you know being the younger brother, the illegal "lay down and spin your legs 200 times a second" always wins

[balmy condor]

at one point I looked at our metrics, and the outlaw channel was more trafficked than all our other channels combined

[fallen forge]

[balmy condor]

and it wasn't even all that close

[slim hamlet]

I am suprised sin is not more just by me sending 5 messages for every actual message here

[fallen forge]

zac carrying the outlaw conversation

[limber lion]

Was it the Dreadblades

[candid geyser]

Zac said today he wanted to mute all new users for 30 days and then they have to pass a quiz about guides and pins, then they can chat 🤣🤣

[slim hamlet]

[fallen forge]

holy mother of based

[indigo mulch]

The dreadblade incident

[storm forum]

FAQ quiz is a good idea

[balmy condor]

@candid geyser it took a while for mom to get the message she was a bit confused but she sends a hug

[storm forum]

I think 30 days of enforced studying is a bit much though

[candid geyser]

Best part of having a shit dad like @balmy condor is at least mom is nice…

[balmy condor]

wow rough

[indigo mulch]

D;

[balmy condor]

wanted to copy this into our rules but then they got to 8. and it got veto'd

[dark token]

I actually think acro isn't that good on sin in keys since it doesn't increase IC or spatter range, compared to outlaw or sub. In raid it's nice

Like it's a nice "feel" to be able to hit from further away but it's less of a DPS gain on sin compared to OL

[limber lion]

I don't care for it

[dark token]

Yeah I tried with and without and I prefer without on sin

With for other specs

[eternal ferry]

Is sin better then outlaw?

[prisma cypress]

cooler, yes

[balmy condor]

my personal vietnam

[raven egret]

This.

[eternal ferry]

Sag doch mal bruder

[balmy condor]

instead of hiya, the next video is gonna be "halli hallo"

[candid geyser]

Sin > Combat > Sub > most other dps class/spec > healers > WW > Outlaw

[eternal ferry]

Yes im waiting for it, keep your promise

[balmy condor]

or maybe "grüssli"

that would be a bit too dank

[storm forum]

Have you considered my favorite opener, "I will burn you alive inside your home with all you hold dear"?

[fallen forge]

sin or sub for keys

[eternal ferry]

i think thats an austrian thing actually

[balmy condor]

that's okay

I'm half-austrian

my mom said grüssli growing up

[royal lantern]

jesus christ guys

not even 4 hours

[indigo mulch]

[candid geyser]

It’s realz fault

He was ripping one liners

[royal lantern]

huh

and i missed it

[royal lantern]

great

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

GREAT

[balmy condor]

yeah blame realz for his 15 messages

[slim hamlet]

thats a good one

[dark token]

Season 1 shadowlands WW >

[candid geyser]

Had to snip it out of context obviously 🤣

[dark token]

I swear no one watched lonely island in this discord

[slim hamlet]

True it's Oxi's fault

[eternal ferry]

whispyr just announced he will do coachings in german and spanish, the hype is real

[balmy condor]

wait

no

[slim hamlet]

can u do danish too Whispyr?

please

[royal lantern]

ofc

swedish aswell

[eternal ferry]

O yea, danish as well

[void mesa]

french coaching??

[royal lantern]

MR.Worldwide

[slim hamlet]

pretty sure I heard him say so

[balmy condor]

yeg taller lidt dansk

[slim hamlet]

close enough

I'll take it

[spice surge]

@balmy condor Kul att se att du vill hjälpa folk på svenska också, väldigt uppskattat

[balmy condor]

det er ikke goodt

[indigo mulch]

De e norks

[slim hamlet]

Ja det er mega fedt du vil hjælpe os der ikk er så gode til engelsk @balmy condor

[limber lion]

jag kan hjälp folk på svensk

[balmy condor]

aight I'm not translating any of that shit

fuck you guys

[eternal ferry]

[slim hamlet]

😦

[void mesa]

speak 'merican am i right

[eternal ferry]

Fickser

[slim hamlet]

Dansk er næsten det samme, virker det?

[balmy condor]

that's not a real letter

[limber lion]

ja, det är very similar

[indigo mulch]

Jeg kan hjelpe folk på norsk.

[spice surge]

å ä ö

[indigo mulch]

å ä ö

[balmy condor]

å ä ö

[fallen forge]

wtf he does coaching

[slim hamlet]

I would like people that doesn't know "æ ø å" guess what it sounds like

[fallen forge]

but he roasts my logs for free

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/fadsfantasy-monkey-phone-mono-teléfono-george-monkey-gif-26110826

me with my america 2 years of highschool french education

[deft tangle]

Σταρχιδιαμαςκμας

[slim hamlet]

now we cooking

[grand trail]

¨tuning soon pog

[slim hamlet]

huh

[indigo mulch]

Tuning what? D:

[slim hamlet]

You made me open wowhead

[candid geyser]

Yes, one session is included with his OF 6-month sub package.

[balmy condor]

tuning my balls over your face

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[eternal ferry]

Bro we are on the rogue discord, every 14 y old rogue kiddo using those letters in his character names

[slim hamlet]

linkers in chat?

[grand trail]

max say class changes today 😄

[slim hamlet]

No they use Ø

[balmy condor]

blizzard max knows best

[slim hamlet]

Ø is like the most common letter people randomly use for their name

[lucid silo]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slim hamlet]

And it's not even close to O

[grand trail]

muhehe

[fallen forge]

max my fav blizz employee

[slim hamlet]

huh

[indigo mulch]

[slim hamlet]

now u make me open liquid maximums stream

[indigo mulch]

Phreak is my fav blizzard employee.

[slim hamlet]

Fake

[indigo mulch]

Tons of damage.

[fallen forge]

thats just a O with a line its the same thing

[slim hamlet]

No

[fallen forge]

like a Q with an erection

[slim hamlet]

Ø is Ø

[fallen forge]

im calling that letter boner q

[slim hamlet]

idk how to add voice to message

fun fact ø = island

[fallen forge]

thats a letter not an island tho

i think

[eternal ferry]

Shadœwkîłłæ

[indigo mulch]

Is it pronounced like the Swedish ö?

oO

[candid geyser]

@balmy condor what if I purchase coaching session, but then just talk to you about cats - y/n?

[slim hamlet]

å = a stream

[indigo mulch]

Ö is Island in Swedish.

[slim hamlet]

yup

ö is a fake letter tho

ø is real

[indigo mulch]

I mean..

you even try to cover it with a line..

ø

[slim hamlet]

U can't just put uwu ear over a letter and completely transform it

the line is like a block meaning it's not o

[void mesa]

ô

[indigo mulch]

The line is to cover up a mistake.

[slate crown]

why are you telling me I can't put on uwu ears and completely transform

[slim hamlet]

these make sense

same with `

[void mesa]

its just a hat on my letter 🙂

êôû

[slim hamlet]

because it shows when to put pressure

[slim hamlet]

U can

But you are not a letter

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-pat-pat-on-head-cute-affection-gif-8864024291896689148

[slim hamlet]

actual tuning

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/eu-en/476231-class-tuning-incoming-15-november/

Assassination
Amirdrassil Tier Set: 4-piece set bonus tooltip should now accurately reflect its actual output.
Amirdrassil Tier Set: 4-piece set single target damage increased by 4%.

huge

[icy agate]

only buffs 😄

[slim hamlet]

No outlaw nerfs

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[eternal ferry]

4% lol

[flint tusk]

what does
Amirdrassil Tier Set: 4-piece set bonus tooltip should now accurately reflect its actual output. even mean?

[strange python]

4% to some obscure number

[balmy condor]

tooltip errors

not actually tuning

just like

number on tooltip is wrong

[dark token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892045651033092096/1172694899632644158/image.png?ex=6561403b&is=654ecb3b&hm=6b958065efe22ab45cd62c26a3d31779051c97005518a350a7e553889b0cee20& rip our pis

It's over

[flint tusk]

OH ok. i honestly hadn't looked close enough at what it even said

[icy agate]

nerfed augmentation runes is great

[slim hamlet]

Well aug got nerfed = we got nerfed

gg its over

[elfin forge]

Couple of questions. So how exactly does haste affect Kingsbane? Say lust + PI.

1. We auto faster so more applications of deadly poison right?
2. Does Kingsbane get extra ticks?
3. Is the T31 2p attack speed additive or multiplicative with attack speed from Haste?

[white orchid]

still nothing with the 2 set fix yet?

[slim hamlet]

This is a tuning post

[balmy condor]

1. yes
2. no
3. multi

[elfin forge]

Cool ty

[grand trail]

cant find the post

[spice surge]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-15-november/476231

[slim hamlet]

wayyyy too slow

bucko

[grand trail]

oh i was blind

[spice surge]

No i was responding

[balmy condor]

im not even gonna bother making a pin for it

[slim hamlet]

Yea I did realise my mistake

[spice surge]

To sapp asking for the link

[slim hamlet]

sorry bucko

[strange python]

[slim hamlet]

but but but what about aug getting nerfed thats a nerf to us so therefore u must sim everything again and see if we even worth it so u gotta make a pin to say that you will do it so later you can update that pin to say if its worth it

[flint tusk]

wait so teh 4 set buff by 4% just means it'll do 154% instead of 150% amp?

[fallen forge]

man i wanna watch some sin rogue gameplay in keys but i cant understand anything going on in zerocools pov

[flint tusk]

maybe i'm just too tired and misreading it

[slim hamlet]

idk if its meant as 154% or 150%*1.04

[dark token]

Why are they buffing the ST dmg doesn't it need aoe help lol

I'll take it ig

[balmy condor]

it's fine in both

[icy agate]

tuning changes are usually in the 150%*1.04 form

by/from vs to

[slim hamlet]

would think so too

with the wording

[raven egret]

honestly I think our AoE feels great already

[balmy condor]

also all of the 4% thing

really goes out of the window

depending on what the tooltip fix is

[grand trail]

and guys where "what tunning" 15min ago 😄

[gusty mirage]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/1708060-class-tuning-incoming-november-14/

[slim hamlet]

Isn't it just a clarifying thing

[balmy condor]

I mean for rogue it's still "what tuning"

[gusty mirage]

for anyone confused

enjoy the link

[balmy condor]

a tooltip fix is hardly worth mentioning

[gusty mirage]

green rogue still in shambles

tragic

[balmy condor]

yippie the thing people don't read is more clear

[past forum]

unironically one of my favorite parts of the rework is featherfoot with 1min sprint

[delicate smelt]

is there any viable PvE single target build without dance?

[slim hamlet]

gg

[fallen forge]

time to make another yt short

[balmy condor]

no the first went terrible we never do that again

[slim hamlet]

wuss

[gusty mirage]

whispyrogue on tiktok when?

[indigo mulch]

no 2p fix tho? D:

[fallen forge]

just add some subway surfer gameplay at the bottom

[slim hamlet]

its a tuning post

[flint tusk]

not bug post

[slim hamlet]

why would there be bugfixes

[strange python]

it's like 8% behind. Just macro it onto Kingsbane - and forget it exists.

[slim hamlet]

in that

There aint even always bugfix notes in normalt patch notes

[grim tangle]

HUGE BUFFS! SIN ROGUE S TIER???

[slim hamlet]

yes

[indigo mulch]

Always.

[raven egret]

Of course.

[split cipher]

yellow class good, yes

[slim hamlet]

outlaw somehow dodged nerfs

[eternal ferry]

Activated evasion

[slim hamlet]

vanished

[delicate smelt]

thanks i look at that. Hoped there will be more viable variations without dance. Just every rogue spec is tied to dance.

[slim hamlet]

99% sure it's 4.5% behind

not 8%

[drifting cloud]

its not 8% behind bro stop making up numbers lol

[strange python]

When I swapped it for the talent that adds yards - i lost 8.3%

[slim hamlet]

and 2.5% for m+ that one I am not so sure about

[slim hamlet]

and what did u switch

[drifting cloud]

because you dont just swap 1 point

[slim hamlet]

and did u have 10.2 gear on that

[strange python]

I mean I simmed my guy...removed that talent for another - and it was 8.3% behind. You wanna run sims, go for it. That was my results.

[slim hamlet]

U cant just take one thing

[drifting cloud]

[slim hamlet]

and put into another thing

[distant carbon]

W sin

[slim hamlet]

and expect it to be best option

[strange python]

I did just that - so i can.

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

Stop making numbers up if u do that then

[delicate smelt]

how is assa compared to outlaw?

[strange python]

The number came from thousands of computer-calculated iterations - they are not made up

[drifting cloud]

holy shit

[slim hamlet]

BROTHER

STOP

[slate crown]

[keen spruce]

bruh that doesn't mean that what you made is the best non-dance build

[distant helm]

Hes gotta be trollig

[drifting cloud]

this is how the build actually is

[delicate smelt]

cause i have all my gear crit/versa

[solid skiff]

You chose an option, but it was not even close to the best way of not taking the best option

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

We don't know until we see the actual game in 10.2, but the sims says outlaw is better

[molten cosmos]

Wait wait, is that tunning added to what we got in the 10.2 release?

[strange python]

ok - so then you fine tune it and you get to 4.5% behind lol jeez. I gave the guy an answer - based on my character's sims - move on or provide more accurate information.

[proven jasper]

[slim hamlet]

Yes u are not giving people answers based of a dumb sim u did

[strange python]

I did

[slim hamlet]

u give it based of a real sim

[keen spruce]

bruther i could cook up some dogshit that's like 20% behind say i gave "AN" answer

[harsh anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-literally-me-drive-gif-25718768

[slim hamlet]

otherwise u are spreading misinfo

[keen spruce]

it doesn't mean you should

[strange python]

I said "it is like 8% behind" - so your argument is that it's 4.5% behind with some "also less-than-optimal" build. What is your deal man...jsut move on.

Why waste time simming what's not the best anyway.

[slim hamlet]

"Yea so I went with my no dance buil here, it's 20% behind. Oh I forgot to mention I decided to go no dps talents"

[keen spruce]

those are very different answers

and one of them is wrong

[strange python]

8% and 4.5% lol - and 3 people up in arms about it.

[keen spruce]

that's the deal

[slim hamlet]

Stop giving info if they're fake

[slim hamlet]

how is 3.5% not big

[balmy condor]

you can't just make up wrong numbers and then wonder why people are jumping you

[wraith cosmos]

oh boy are we having 2 seperate arguments again?

[balmy condor]

that's the problem

[strange python]

I didn't make up the number

[crisp pine]

My no blind build is 50% behind :(

[strange python]

It came from sims lol

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

https://tenor.com/view/im-dead-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-bruh-skeleton-dead-im-dead-bruh-gif-26854866

[strange python]

"like 8%" is pretty damn close to 4.5% anyway so

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[balmy condor]

yeah but bad numbers from bad sims

are still bad numbers

[solid skiff]

Yeah just twice the difference

Close though

[strange python]

well - he asked the question 3 minutes prior

no one helped him

i chimed in

[balmy condor]

you chimed in wrong

[strange python]

you guys are assholes

[slim hamlet]

Dont chime in with wrong info

[delicate smelt]

for M+ is it viable? I tried to goo Assa for M+ few patches ago and there wasnt any chance to get invited oposed to Outlaw. I heard they made assa more viable for M+

[slim hamlet]

No

you are

bucko

[strange python]

it wasn't wrong dude

[meager meadow]

amazing

[slim hamlet]

IT IS

WRONG

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[strange python]

it's not wrong

[slim hamlet]

U are mental

actually mental

idc

[strange python]

lol k

[meager meadow]

gottem

[drifting cloud]

I mean you literally just untalented dance

[strange python]

yeah - i wanted to know how much value i was getting out of dance

My answer was that it provided 8% dps increase over not having it.

[drifting cloud]

you know theres multiple talents that are only played because of dance

[strange python]

I'm fully aware of this lol

[solid skiff]

Are you?

[strange python]

I mean yeah...

[keen spruce]

but that wasn't his question

[slim hamlet]

His question was "is there a viable pve st build without dance" and u gave him a non viable number

[strange python]

well then help him instead of getting on me

if that's your main concern

[slim hamlet]

If I noticed his message I would

I don't answer if I don't know or I make it clear I am not sure or ping people who do

[balmy condor]

I mean they kinda are helping him, by correcting you, that’s how that works

[strange python]

Well I had literally just got done running that earlier out of curiosity...that's all

[lyric wind]

sin buffs

[slim hamlet]

ye

[keen spruce]

I also didn't have an answer for him, so I didn't make up a wrong number to provide

[spice surge]

"buffs"

[slim hamlet]

I mean

[strange python]

My conclusion was that the talent itself provided me with 8% increase in dps over not having it.

[lyric wind]

hey man take what you can get

[slim hamlet]

They exist

one of the buffs of all time

[slim hamlet]

Say that then

easy fix

[balmy condor]

And that’s the wrong conclusion

[strange python]

ok whispyr

[sharp falcon]

sin buffs bug fixes

ftfy

[strange python]

just tell people to move on instead of instigating

[celest helm]

Ill take 4%, surely that will allow us to compete with outlaw thats 40k higher kek

[strange python]

Sorry my number was 3.5% off

[slim hamlet]

The number says 4% higher = buff

change my mind

[lyric wind]

thas what ims ayin

[celest helm]

Based math

[sharp falcon]

accurate doom, certainly

[glacial grotto]

any reason you have internal bleeding on ST build?

[wraith cosmos]

i love how you are dragging this into them instigating over just saying ''guess my numbers were wrong''

[celest helm]

Someone has to doom xd

[strange python]

My numbers weren't wrong so

[sharp falcon]

do they though

[slim hamlet]

Only 20k ahead when bugs are fixed

[strange python]

Just presented inaccurately

[balmy condor]

I’m not instigating I’m explaining so we can avoid it in the future

[grim tangle]

wait I thought it was 50k higher?

[slim hamlet]

U went into assassination and ask if we need to doom?

[sharp falcon]

outlaw 30 years higher

[celest helm]

Its 200k higher

[junior aurora]

guys i heard outlww was 100k higher

[keen spruce]

ST build has internal bleeding

[strange python]

lol...the only disruption and problem here - is you guys keeping going on about 3.5%

[celest helm]

Lol

[sharp falcon]

outlaw at least 300% higher

i seent it

[junior aurora]

factual

[celest helm]

500% really

[slim hamlet]

wrong.

[celest helm]

I can feel it

[slim hamlet]

400%

[proper summit]

8% vs 4.5% - my numbers were presented inaccurately. Based

[glacial grotto]

yeah im asking why

[sharp falcon]

500% could be, undersim tbh

[strange python]

The numbers weren't inaccurate. Just the wording of what the numbers represented.

[keen spruce]

cuz it does damage

[junior aurora]

sim probably sandbags the 6 buffs they get

[keen spruce]

and interacts with lethal dose

[wraith cosmos]

so if the numbers arent wrong whats the holdup exactly? cause im seeing 2 different numbers being put out...and one of those numbers is being put out by a guy that simmed countless iterations of the spec

[slim hamlet]

U need to consider the possible stuff they didn't find for the APL so it's actually more likely 600%

[strange python]

who said countless lol

[keen spruce]

well it's SUPPOSE to interact with lethal dose

[strange python]

simc literally tells you the number of iterations it performs.

[slim hamlet]

alright

this is the most stupid shit

I have ever read

[drifting cloud]

its never gets old some herbie thinking theyve got it figured out

[slim hamlet]

and I have read a lot

[drifting cloud]

same thing every patch in this discord

[glacial grotto]

hmm alright, seems kinda scuffed over something like twist the knife

[restive falcon]

brother this guy stinks

[strange python]

Keep up the name calling though right lol

[grim tangle]

no discrimination against herbies pls

[slim hamlet]

Herbies are cute

Unless they lie

[glacial grotto]

well I guess you dont need TTK

[rich pollen]

Let’s take a breather, touch some grass and come back refreshed

[slim hamlet]

😠

[indigo mulch]

I don't care how much outlaw is simming D: I just want to play my boomer spec. :C

[balmy condor]

It would’ve just been easier had you chosen to check your numbers and accurately answered his question, that’s all I’m saying

[drifting cloud]

I can call you an idiot if youd prefer that, think herbie is a good middle point

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-hello-hello-based-department-gif-26042779

[keen spruce]

yeah i mean it's not like a game breaking talent or anything. the builds are also simmed for when we have new 4p. but the robot says it's best

[mighty elm]

Coming here after every buff to see people crying for no reason

[restive falcon]

[slim hamlet]

No one is mad about that

[balmy condor]

No one’s crying we’re just arguing over misinformation

[indigo mulch]

What is the misinformation this time?

[strange python]

Yeah - imagine your numbers being off by 3.5% and 4 people jump down your throat, including mods and admin - calling people herbies and shit bro....just move on

[indigo mulch]

Its so much nowdays its hard to keep up.

[slim hamlet]

Inform me about deez nuts

[drifting cloud]

its funny how you think the 3.5% difference isnt relevant

that says alot

[slim hamlet]

3.5% is almost half your number

3.5% is huge

[strange python]

oh look he can do math

[slim hamlet]

idk why u keep thinking thats your saving grace

[slate crown]

You don't need ttk, but it isn't an awful alternative for slightly less damage for a reduced stress load. I like TTK :). I like tradeoffs like that

[proper summit]

Wish you could

[slim hamlet]

u clearly cant

[strange python]

I mean Whispyr himself says in a video that 3% of total damage is irrelevant so

you're kinda arguing against him too

[slim hamlet]

[white lance]

wasnt it 3-5

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah, we could all move on, but you keep insisting that you didn’t make a mistake when you clearly did, and that’s causing people to jump you

[crisp pine]

What the fuck

[slim hamlet]

If the spec is easier to play u would change for 3% u are not losing 3% and calling it good for nothing

[balmy condor]

Also don’t drag me into your delusions please

[strange python]

meh well whatever - i mean people keep calling me names and @'ing me - we can just keep it going

or ya know - a mod can ask people to move on

[restive falcon]

[strange python]

like support a decent community or something

[drifting cloud]

lol

[proper summit]

you could also just stop typing

[strange python]

I could - but it is whatever

[slim hamlet]

U should probably say yes to not spreading misinfo again before tho

[keen spruce]

but you're the one that keeps typing

[proper summit]

the hole you've dug for yourself is halfway through the world

[wraith cosmos]

buddy, issue isnt the community but the exception within it apparently

[proper summit]

at this point

[bright cipher]

you happy?

[ember mural]

[balmy condor]

Idk, I think supporting accurate information is supporting a decent community

[slim hamlet]

We are "supporting a better community" by stopping misinformation

[balmy condor]

Unless you want me to support wrong numbers

[strange python]

4.5% versus 8% OMG

[balmy condor]

Yes

[strange python]

so much misinformation

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[strange python]

grow up

[slim hamlet]

Nah

[meager meadow]

lmao

[slim hamlet]

This guy

[proven jasper]

looool

[balmy condor]

That’s a large difference

[slim hamlet]

How u are so chill Whispyr is beyond me

[strange python]

He's an instigator

[slim hamlet]

I couldn't survive 2 mins without /ban

[indigo mulch]

What is 8% coming from? o.O

[strange python]

He knows what he's doing by keeping it going

[balmy condor]

?

[glacial grotto]

why are you guys getting baited so hard

[slim hamlet]

his made up number he is trying to defend

[proven jasper]

you are a fool

[white lance]

this discussion is just a distraction from the real issues, like what does this even mean

[junior aurora]

what does whispyr gain from instigating

[balmy condor]

I’m just talking man

[drifting cloud]

nah this isnt a troll, just a deluded person

[proper summit]

@avih did thousands of simulations to arrive at this number, pls no hate

[slim hamlet]

[proven jasper]

he lives in a clown world

[bright cipher]

👀 ok, did i come in a bad time

[median agate]

One of the best things about this so far is having issues with namecalling, then banging this one out

[bright cipher]

i would expect people to be satisfied with the changes

[indigo mulch]

What? It says 4% on 4p. How does that turn into 8%?

[strange python]

Why do people troll? Maybe for their own personal entertainment. Then when someone gets riled up enough - he'll throw up the mute hammer.

[wraith cosmos]

we both did, its actually kinda entertaining...i feel bad for whysp trying to make it a rational discussion

[slim hamlet]

he is saying no dance build is 8% behind, we tell him it's not, he says "yes because my sim said so" with a suboptimal build and it went on from there

pretty good

[slim hamlet]

So u just waiting to get muted?

Is that the endgame plan

[sand sigil]

bro the real question we need to be asking here is is that 2 piece gettin fixed?

[fluid glade]

outlaw is 500% ahead guys stop complaining

just play outlaw

[strange python]

What I meant to say is that when i performed sims to see how much value Shadow Dance was giving me, by removing the talent, it was 8% behind. Nothing more, nothing less.
They are arguing that there are non-dance builds that are only 4.5% behind and not 8% lol

[drifting cloud]

ping realz he was here 5min ago!

[junior aurora]

that seems to be what realz implied earlier

[sand sigil]

pinging him 3 times

[slim hamlet]

Realz knows about it for sure, but really hope we get it before raid

[junior aurora]

he said it was bug fixes not a buff

[rare jackal]

whats wrong with 2pc

[slim hamlet]

D:

[harsh anchor]

[slim hamlet]

random resets

[fluid glade]

spam his ass with every liquid emote

[eternal ferry]

You clearly enjoy being jumped on. Stop seeking attention

[humble ginkgo]

Spam ping realz challenge

[strange python]

I'm seeking zero attention - only responding to people that are basically talking directly to me?

[slim hamlet]

"speed dialing realz" more like speed dial to !mute

[fluid glade]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-toilet-scene-hank-revealing-gif-18042867

lets make him nerf the spec by spamming him enough

[mighty elm]

must be a meme or 😂

[slim hamlet]

[wraith cosmos]

well they are either right and they do exist, which makes you wrong, or they are not, and can easily be proven wrong...fact that you're now trying to rile people up more than show it alone makes me think former

[slim hamlet]

lets just act like its a meme

would be much better

[mighty elm]

[rare jackal]

me realising im going to be forced to play outlaw

[slim hamlet]

next time he spreads misinfo he just gets muted

[eternal ferry]

Bro just move on its not that hard, if you stop typing about it the conversation ends. I promise!

[strange python]

I'm not trying to rile anyone up. I just want people to move on lol

[keen spruce]

The timeline of events:

you gave wrong information with wrong methodology demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of the question and how to answer it

you were corrected with some jabs making fun of you

you doubled down on your wrong methodology and numbers

you were jabbed for being stubborn and wrong

you lashed out at people making fun of you while still doubling down on your bad methodology and results

you downplayed the wrongness of your results while still doubling down on your methodology

you called everyone assholes

[restive falcon]

have you moved on?

[strange python]

I'm trying to move on

[rare jackal]

based honestly

[restive falcon]

clearly not just stop looking in this channel

[slim hamlet]

yea but moving on is not right here, since u do not realise u did something wrong and might do it again

xd

[oak lagoon]

so basically after the opener, you maintant your bleeds + envenom, while waiting for your bursts to come back right

[strange python]

lol - well i mean it is what it is - you guys aren't gonna change my opinion so

[keen spruce]

i'm moving on now that it's has been documented

[slim hamlet]

Honestly I am going to #outlaw Any joiners?

[slim hamlet]

IT IS NOT AN OPINION

[jovial verge]

based

[slim hamlet]

this is not subjective

[grim tangle]

why is anybody still talking about this are you all 12

[slim hamlet]

reeee

[spice surge]

Should head over to aug disc if you want content

[strange python]

ree

[spice surge]

(dont troll them, no brigading, just reading)

[keen spruce]

let's go stir the pot in there @slim hamlet

[fluid glade]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-i-cant-take-this-shh-no-more-jump-off-suicide-gif-15872103

sin realizing on a good day, its little "kingsbane" isn't enough to counter the gigachad crackshot, mastery is ass spec

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

Don’t

[drifting cloud]

im sure theyre very unbiased

[slim hamlet]

ohhhh

That sounds fun actually

[solid skiff]

Your ree has half the "e"s that his does. Please advise

[keen spruce]

i'm joking

[slim hamlet]

Gonna try outlaw first tho

[junior aurora]

aug evoker acting like they still arent mandatory in keys

[balmy condor]

Leave the guy alone, he’s not willing to see his error

[slim hamlet]

The nerf is big enough to not be confirmed god comp tbh

[restive falcon]

[slim hamlet]

Rough to just leave a guy that doesnt understand what he does wrong so he will 100% do it again

[junior aurora]

not confirmed yet

[fluid glade]

whats wrong with 2pc

[junior aurora]

in a month when keys start getting pushed the tanks/healers are gonna want them back

[strange python]

Still going I see lol

[slim hamlet]

I wasnt even talking to you bucko

[strange python]

I'm sure I will present inaccurate numbers in the future. I'm sure I will misrepresent things as well...part of life.

[balmy condor]

!mute @slim hamlet 15m stop

[keen spruce]

[indigo mulch]

[restive falcon]

[spice surge]

Depends on how lenient the timers are, if timers are tight damage is gonna be the most important thing anyway

[wraith cosmos]

off to the outlaw section he goes

[fluid glade]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

https://tenor.com/view/discord-embed-failure-epic-embed-fail-double-embed-fail-gif-23538127

[ember mural]

[wraith cosmos]

wut

[oak lagoon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[cerulean nest]

we fightin?

am I late?

[slate crown]

Stacks trigger to drop early after hitting max stacks. Leads to a lot of loss of uptime

[eternal ferry]

Yes fun is over

[drifting light]

watching zerocool, the man just dont give a shit about sanguine blades

[jovial verge]

Do any of us

[balmy condor]

!mute @strange python 2d going to DM’s to further antagonize afterwards isn’t the correct response

[cerulean nest]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-shinpan-breaking-the-law-breaking-the-world-goose-dance-goose-default-dance-gif-26530709

[restive falcon]

[wraith cosmos]

no one was surprised

[eternal ferry]

What

[fluid glade]

so at max stacks, each stack lasts less than 5s?

[gusty mirage]

the explanation seems pretty straight forward, which part confused you

[indigo mulch]

Why are we angry, we just got 4% 4p buff 😮

[rotund crescent]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[indigo mulch]

Its all goochie 😮

[gusty mirage]

too low apm

[indigo mulch]

Ah

[fluid glade]

we need 8%

[junior aurora]

they’re my keybinds and i want them now!!

[eternal ferry]

Not the explanation, rather the guy actually dming

[gusty mirage]

call JPC Wentworth? 877-Binds-Now?

[keen spruce]

[slate crown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDUYLDtC5Qw&t=174s (at timestamp)

[rare jackal]

nani?

[junior aurora]

go work for an asbestos lawyer oxi

rake in that mesothelioma money

[gusty mirage]

bro I'm doing world quests, stop suggesting things they're starting to sound not crazy

[slate crown]

I'm not 100% on exactly how it works, but after you reach max stack something causes existing stacks to fade faster than they should

[rare jackal]

thats so random, isnt 4pc cranking?

[indigo mulch]

Now its cranking more.

[rough osprey]

can someone pls translate these changes ? 😄

[indigo mulch]

I'm happy they are buffing the 4p but like.. i feel like fixing the bugs we already have before buffing stuff should come first D:

[spice surge]

Round numbers look better

Thats literally it

[rough osprey]

bro wtf is up with 2p tho

[gusty mirage]

tooltip is changing to make more sense (allegedly), and slightly more damage

[turbid bay]

haven't been following closely... did Subterfuge as its own buff get removed? doesn't appear under buffs and neither am i able to track it with Weakauras...?

[rough osprey]

so no one knows is 2p fixed or not then

[gusty mirage]

it's a tuning post, so could still get fixed

we have all weekend

GET TO SEED FARMING AND WQs FRIENDS

[slate crown]

It wasn't in the ntoes and it's not possible to test on live

[gusty mirage]

BACK TO THE MINES

[shy pecan]

No

Make me

[slate crown]

But I don'twannnaaaa

[sonic zinc]

how things feeling

[steel spire]

[warped prawn]

i have been hyping sin for this tier and now the simulationcraft sims show sub doing more dps and people are telling me i'll probably have to play sub

[spice surge]

No

[rough osprey]

im not farming over renown 18 bruv gonna get 20 with the reset anyways

[junior aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-dwarves-dwarfs-gif-3643275

back to the mines

[gusty mirage]

But the 86 primary stat

let's not instigate further

(:

[indigo mulch]

But numbers arent everything. 😮

[gusty mirage]

or I'll purge this channel back to shadowlands

[junior aurora]

heard that was whispyrs job anyway

[proven jasper]

[gusty mirage]

I'll make you all relive 9.0

[warped prawn]

son of a bitch i'm in

[slate crown]

Don't lie, this is never the real reason to grind to 20. This is: #wow-general message

[spice surge]

The real power is actually in the 476 crafted thing at 20 rather than the rune. Because you get to craft without using crests

[strange python]

Surely we get bug fixes with the buff?

[gusty mirage]

tru

[raven egret]

Thats evil as hell

[spice surge]

For people like echo or liquid

[indigo mulch]

Evil oxi makes me moist.

[gusty mirage]

I reckon this isn't the last bit of tuning, and we for sure see a lot of bug fixes. afaik a lot of stuff is bugged rn

[strange python]

Weekly "no edge of night" and playing obe flag?

[gusty mirage]

WQs are barely functional

[junior aurora]

wdym we just saved that dryad hole so much theres no more fire to put out

too slow too bad

[strange python]

😮 how did you get that video of me for your pfp oxi

[gusty mirage]

wait

are you me?

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[strange python]

Am monkeh

[gusty mirage]

[drifting cloud]

auggies

[junior aurora]

my payout when i give liquid a boe

[gusty mirage]

Ryler are you prepared for oxipal the ret paladin on tuesday

I haven't touched ret since Wrath

[junior aurora]

im sure its still whack a mole press the buttons that light up the pretty yellow

[drifting cloud]

im ready

[gusty mirage]

I'll use my tank trinkets

and just never die

I might actually do more damage playing prot ngl

[slim hamlet]

"Breaking stealth with the Bomb Dispenser trinket will not grant subterfuge." is this a thing for sin too?

[rough osprey]

yeah this is annoying af

[slim hamlet]

oof

[junior aurora]

i just dropped the bomb dispenser

can put wq trinkets to 450 anyway

[rough osprey]

just dont macro bomb with opener i guess smt like garrote

[slim hamlet]

I would for sure too

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[amber blaze]

is there any of the time rift trinket that is worth wearing at 450 ilvl ?

[balmy condor]

Droptimizer can help you with that

Really hard to say without knowing your character

[storm forum]

whispyr have you simmed the buff or is it too small to care about?

[balmy condor]

The 4% buff to 6% of our damage?

[storm forum]

yeah thats what i figured

[balmy condor]

0.24% big

[bright cipher]

so its now 10% ||i joke, i joke||

[misty holly]

Why is sub rogue so good for WFT now?

[balmy condor]

Almost margin of error

Just barley

[balmy condor]

Haven’t they always been

Auto attacks give them combo points

That sounds good to me

[spice surge]

And now we get more combo points from it and we dont waste 50% of them

[storm forum]

its better now cause their auto attack CP get anticipation

[misty holly]

for real? When did sub get the Havoc treatment lol

[balmy condor]

Yeah sounds right

Subs gotten combo points from auto attacks since legion?

[gusty mirage]

not sure what you mean by the havoc treatment

[slim hamlet]

I mean

[balmy condor]

Maybe bfa

[slim hamlet]

It's 13k for wft

[gusty mirage]

legion sounds right

[balmy condor]

I think it was legion

[slim hamlet]

Omega

[balmy condor]

With the spec reworks

[drifting cloud]

was definetly there in legion

[spice surge]

But the 10.2 version of it is so much better than the previous one in basicly every single way

Big realz W

[final star]

It basically double wft value lol

[gusty mirage]

common realz W

fixed that for you

[sharp falcon]

i know im present and in some ways the public face for some things but i am not an island

[drifting cloud]

sub rogues when enh shaman isnt there to raid

https://tenor.com/view/duck-gif-21987297

[sharp falcon]

today, if things are good, please don't overly praise me. I'm not your savior

[slim hamlet]

Wait you are not the sole dev of wow?

[gusty mirage]

sub rogues don't exist without enhance shaman in raid bucko

[sharp falcon]

and hopefully, try to remember in the future, if something is bad... please don't overly blame me. I'm not your enemy

[spice surge]

Fair fair

[final star]

You just don't play sub without it

[wet agate]

Realz being real

[storm forum]

Realz can you give us the name of your team or something?

[raven egret]

Praise Realz and everyone working with Realz

[gusty mirage]

can I yell at whispyr instead?

[final star]

[indigo mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[sharp falcon]

Blizzard Entertainment (eheheheheheh GOTTEM)

[spice surge]

Ye i wouldnt, but i could see how this type of discourse could encourage others too, ill be more mindful

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

But you are the name I know

And I need to let my anger from a 0.1% nerf out on someone

[misty holly]

Realz bracing us for the week 2 nerfs after we see rogues top of the meter.

[spice spire]

Too late lock was buffed I’ve already started writing my hate mail to you

[storm forum]

the company that did <cancelable shit>? man i cant believe Realz is getting cancelled now

[slim hamlet]

Wait it was foreshadowing

[indigo mulch]

No worries realz, we're used to blaming Whispyr for everything. Its clearly his fault my wife is asking for another kid.

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

[flint tusk]

I’ll help you load the ammo

[spice spire]

Bless

[gusty mirage]

why do you hate blackvneck

[slim hamlet]

Can I join?

[spice spire]

Blackvneck is an exception from the rule