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I have the same thing for rupture and rupture+garrote and for my spriests dots+DP so you can more easily keep track of dots and prio targets in big pulls
how do i change color for spatter in plater?
I am hoping you guys will enjoy this meme I just made
"make sure you have instant poison applied" that's too long of a gcd for outlaw zoomers
they need pi just to apply poisons fast enough for them to not have a menty b from sitting still
Our opener is faaar to long😅
Good question
hah that's great
You’ll get used to it, it’ll be mechanical once you practice it.
Look at Arcane mage openers and you’ll be greatful
does deathmark have some sort of aoe scaling? like, does pressing it make us do more aoe or just pound that target way harder?
forgot about the lethal poison part, answered me own question
ty!
Caustic loves Deathmark 😄
I just ran another dungeon with a tweaked build, felt way better! Think I got the hang of this with what we have right now
i'm having so much fun with the new m+ build
it cranks so hard during kb
and you're also not a potato on every other pull
Honestly, once you realize it's basically just:
DM > Shiv > (shadowdance macro'd)KB > Garrote
it's not thaaattttt bad
quick question, can anyone tell me if Ambush procs the dmg of Caustic Spatter when you get Blindside procs?
It activates the debuff yes
yeah AoE feels good, but I had to change stuff to not be starved on Bosses so much. Agreed however, so far, feels nice! Just gotta get used to it
It applies the debuff
But it doesn’t spread damage
It’s physical damage
thats kinda rough, considering blindside can proc quite a lot at times, hurts the aoe gained from spatter
Vicious venoms can proc off caustic if talented. Just that nature part
Why are you running blindside in dungeons
Why are you using ambush in aoe
?????????
You just need to maintain caustic
personally I had issues with ST, blindside helped tremendously fix that on my last run. Still getting used to the updates, and moving talents
Yeah I mean blindside helped tremendously with your single target
And killed your aoe

it is nice having an extra button on the bars now that they swap on procs tho hah
Those point gotta come from somewhere
anyone know why I randomly am stuck at 60 drake crests? I didnt spend any
Isn't the cap 60/week?
nah 90
Does your cap say 60/90
Oh, no idea then
Blizzard hates you ig
I was getting them consistently and then suddenly like 15 seeds in a row without one
I know, I know, I'm working on it. The pure M+ builds currently I'm playing badly in ST, starving. Fixing that gradually 🙂
I didn't do any ptr m+ so I figured I should learn how sooner rather than later
yeah tbh I needed the practice
I did much better on the second dungeon at least
I can’t wait to do 75 keys week 1 and burn out on the game
Warrior in my guild last tier did 86 keys week 1
Unless liquid pays me to
what build you you recommend for keys? just looking at wowhead, and im seeing "hybrid" and "arterial shock."
currently im just running one i found on warcraft logs of one of the higher up rogues, idr the name
I might go hard for that
I'll be going as hard as I can on tuesday
I've been playing hybrid because more KB/boss damage and I played Arterial most of last tier.
There’s paragraphs talking about the differences between the builds. Would be quite silly of me to not recommend a build I put in the guide
lol i mean which of the two did you find more... engaging? i intend to give them all a run, but im just kinda curious hahah
So you’re recommending AP cause blizz likes buffing shiv right?
they’re basically the same gameplay idk man
I don’t care one way or the other
They’re both viable for different reasons
Pick one
lmao for sure, just thought i'd ask xD
I don't think most people have done enough keys with both to form a relevant opinion. And we haven't seen the new dungeons outside of ptr
No one has done any keys
The last couple tiers, my choice depended on the dungeon and affix
Keys this week don’t count
Dude that was my plan cause we canceled raid, but my guildmates roped me into a not chill 25
Freaking tryhards
Why a 25 this week xD
for a high key next week
Idk, cause my friends are psychos and we +2'd the chill 23
Well hey some people didnt do keys in a while, so they had to run some to get a higher one next week
-11, that 25 still gives a +14 next week
!wa
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Do you think our characters feel the call of the void?
Cause when I got barreled and lost control of my rogue, she bee-lined it for the green and brown bad circles
nobody is immune to that shit
call of the void is so interesting cus of how normal it is with nobody really knowing that
Tonight at least
Call of the void is so scary cause it's something that I really don't want to be part of the human experience but it seems to be
its strange for sure
"i should just drive into oncoming traffic"
"wait no i shouldnt wtf"
its a self preservation mechanism
soooooo
its litearlly your brain going "you could and maybe should do that"
just to remind itself 1sec later "no, its really really really bad, avoid it at all cost"
My brain is bad at that second part
yeha, thats when you need help 
hey y'all, is everyone recrafting their toxic thorn footwraps off the bat this week?
is it worth waiting at all?
yes

as a general rule.
anything non-committal (over buffed rep farming, rare grinding dropping extra shit, w/e) should be done as soon as possible to beat the hotfixes
anything committal (spending capped resources like crests or sparks), should be done as LATE as possilbe in case there are nerfs/buffs/changes
the question is really "what are you gaining by crafting them this week?"
You changed
Miss shmeeps off meds
that's the secret
i'm always off the meds 
u just haven't been in outlaw chat today
Bless up

Is envenom's duration still bugged, or is it just a display issue?
Today was unnecessary
I don't even know why i unmuted outlaw
i don't even know what that spec does anymore
and haven't looked
but there's some good popcorn content in there
!wa
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Because of us 
shoot people
I went in to ask a simple question about crackshot and got my answer. That was like 20 minutes ago
I click back and it's just a giant wall of conversation hundreds of messages
That’s the LE diff
So next time, dont ask a question. Throw a false Information in there and someone will correct you and nobody will be harmed

Nah more like the innocent comment that doesnt know better
Like "Do we use Kingsbane before Shadow Dance?"
Is outlaw ded 
No gotta be like "So when we use Kingsbane before shadow dance, should that be synced with our second shiv or held until tea is at 3 stacks?"
Pls engage with the Hanyaa naaa yaa guy
Please
I’ll make the whimper audio
Just please not that
Also a Question 
Hey whispyr i see that zerocool is not running IW in keys, is the talent dead?
someone told me i should be spreading doomblade with mutilate, can someone confirm this for me?
Can I mute stealthi
Is there a slice build similar to outlaw snake eyes build for assas 
Technically you can
If I beg for not stupid, I get stupid
If I disappear to avoid stupid, I get stupid
Why live
do we know with wich classes we sharing tokens?
Mulch
Same as before
Warrior and whatever
Idk
kk thanks
I can’t care
Warrior Monk Evoker
Sure
for stupid
Fur Stupid
Is that why you transformed to a Lizard?
whispyr is a lizard?
No Tryan
Nothing against the guy but do you realize how miserable I have to be to say out loud that the most helpful person in chat these last couple days is aurhora
You couldn’t have gotten that out of me in 10.0
Yeah
You’re welcome
the videos have definitely been helping me wrap my peanut brain around sin
tbf
its a spec that sometimes looks complicated until you play it for 1hour and it clicks
bad to chad in just one short youtube session
my favorite things, not just in game, follow that motif of seeming endlessly complicated until something clicks and then it all makes sense
Doesn’t mean questions aren’t relevant- unfortunately this is where my lack of play on current iteration really is
Sucky
huh, never said that questions are not relevant lol
i feel this
it doesnt help that ive spent the last two months playing outlaw in prog so my brain is wired to just press things off gcd
new sin is fun though, having giga burst is nice
I should go hit dummies
i've been doin sub keys and it's not helping me learn sass at all
praying this droptimizer doesn't tell me i should be wearing a time rift trinket going into next tier
its just the principle of it lol it's not actually that bad just memeing
and ive had a full m+ and raid vault every week but literally nothing to show for it in the trinket department
Yeah and then you run exactly 1 (one) [uno en espanol] {eins in deutsch} mythic+ dungeon next week and replace it
Excellent stuff
is it worth upgrading superbloom veteran gear to 463 and converting to tier?
yeah i know, like i said just memeing
If that’s all you have at the end of next week and need to complete a set maybe I guess idk
I wouldn’t recommend upgrading world content gear in general though
Cause that’s just
A stupid idea
But if you’re super dopamine starved and need an instantaneous hit
Go for it man
Worlds your oyster
tbf what else are you gonna use whelp crests on
Whelp is only 450
if you do time rifts and dreamsurge right now, you can buy gear upgradable to 450 ilvl and convert it to current tier
doesnt cost any catalyst charges cos its season 2 tier
Thanks to some gearing updates in Patch 10.2, it's now possible to quickly and easily obtain a full set of 450 Aberrus Tier on every single character. Since this is even higher ilvl than what was obtainable from Mythic Aberrus, getting this gear should be a top priority for all players, even if they already had full BiS last season.
My Discord ...
i mean i wouldnt go that far out of your way unless maybe its a new alt
great if you're still a baby rogue like me 
but ye if you dont have much gear that looks nice
probably worth it for anything other than 447-450 imo
if you've still got 441 tier somehow i reckon its probably the best upgrade you can do this week
cos you wont replace tier except with other tier, may as well max the ilvl for s2 tier
whelp is for people that dont do raids/Dungeons
not for people that actually, well, DO that stuff
thats kind of my point yes
thanks for this, it didnt show up when I took a look at his page earlier
use them now since they're basically worthless once you start doing stuff next week
Week 1 pre season minmaxing for 0.4% so you can log in and do week 2 season minmaxing for 30% instead of 30.4%
My favorite

😛 im more just thinking most people might get 2pc next week, tiers gonna be the hardest thing to replace so if your tier isnt 447 probably worth spending the 30 minutes to get two 450 pieces this week right?
blizzard should just send out practice SATs on week 1 of a patch so people have something to occupy themselves
make number go up 
Yeah I mean I get it if it’s a new character without tier I get it
Which currency is needed to upgrade those pieces to 450?
im a degen no lifer week 1 though so my opinion should be disregarded hahah
But Jesus man
It’s like the people trying to hit renown 14 this week or whatever
With 3 characters
that is gross
i mean what do you mean by worth it?
Touching grass should be required
the people rushing for renown is definitely on a different level
How do you look at yourself in the mirror after rep farming pre-season so you can get a re-usable augment rune thats equal to the augment runes we already have
not me waiting for thursday to use my tokens to instantly hit renown 19 💤
3 ilvls on your legs is completely meaningless when our trinkets and enchants swing our damage thousands of dps up and down
spending 10 minutes doing a time rift is fine but even i dont hate myself enough to be farming to fucking 18 renown week 1
trinkets and other gear slots are easily replacable is the point though, tier isnt
right but who cares
you're gonna replace it
like what are you actually gaining next week
why does it matter
what is 3 ilvls going to accomplish for you
my previously 415 ilvl rogue gained quite a lot from it tbh
maybe he's trying to join echo
i already said its probably not worth it if you've already got good tier lol
you are atleast 1 of the few people that gets something out of it
meanwhile the grayparses.in my.guild send spreadsheets for BoD raceswaps so they get human for tokens
and cant walk out of fire in fights

im only renown 15
only
filthy casual

even if i used all my shit i wouldnt be 15 wtf
i'm not flappin over to the darkmoon faire
lmao casual
and i'm not doin no goofy grind on my rat alts
im 3
i got keystone hero death metal knight so i can just portal to the fair ez
and i'm race changing human 
but did i need to do it?
You know it’s bad when I go to shmeeps to ask if he can hit a target dummy for 4 hours straight
But he refuses to go to dmf for 3 minutes
What rep grind, its so free
Casual, you say
1400 gold per rune, if i average 30 odd pulls in a raid night, 3 raid nights and ive got my money back
i feel like its worth it 😛
This is diagnosable
twas a joke yes
did you use them past 2 tiers?

I didnt really degen! just two human characters 😄
I didnt mass farm seeds or whatnot
I mean youve probbably spent more time in this channel since servers went up than that actual thing takes lol
two humans? that's the most degenerate thing i've heard all night
its like under 10h
I.... ok fair.
why rep grind when i can jump around the fountain in valdrakken and read discord
Haha my guild is paying foe the perma rune 
thats a good idea
Who said anything about the time it takes
Nice try ryler
Aside rep grind is all I have, I'm doing absolute dogshit boss damage using the M+ Hybrid build so I'm now hitting a dummy 24/7 trying to figure that one out
You’re not getting me with that bait
what bait bro its just whatever end of the day, let people do whatever they want
I’m not stopping them
mfers won't even open a wowhead guide but will drag their balls through broken glass for a rock with 86 agi on it 
some people just like grinding too
hey I'm reading the guide, thats why I'm hitting the dummy cmon now gimme some benefit of doubt
learning new rotation > rock
but precious
why grind when i can
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Swapping all my gear off from that massive amount of crit I had from 10.1.7 Sub setup is taking time too, re-gemmed and enchanted, I'm doing what I must
Why
Just why
Nothing after it
Wake up, ask why
Go bed, ask why

discord has been interesting the last couple hours
why be
@gusty mirage hello? we need you
dont tell me you never used the oribos lap timer
sometimes you just need to run in circles while reading shitposts
I wouldn’t call it interesting but the words I want to say are all filtered
So uh
Yeah interesting works
???
mate, assa is a crit lover 
or just don't 
nu please i didnt mean it literally 😦
crit>the rest, is like the assa gearing Process since forever
take it back
I read guide and adapt with my sims and nobody loves me 😢
Or maybe don’t say wrong things?
we've had a long day
I just
i have reached zen
theres a guide?
And then say the things in that
Instead of just brain vomiting on their keyboard
One single day
Like an international holiday or something
Who do I petition for that
Maybe one of those micro holidays in game
just start muting people so they have the time to read the guide
tyrant whispyr arc

childrens weeks exists
Yooo how we doing?
Go the maplestory route and kick anyone who asks a question directly covered on wowhead
Just make spec-channels cf/blade/shadow only for a day.
Hows the patch for you guys?
Yes sir
Amen
back in my day we didn't even know what ravenholdt was.
we went to icy veins until someone told us wowhead was better.
then we scoured the pages for hours not finding what we were looking for.
then googled for another 2 hours until we found ravenholdt.
then asked our question there.
THEN they called you a fucking idiot.
times change man
idiot
If it looks cool it's good 👍
Seeds and an aimlessly wandering tree
Need for Seed
LFM purple seeds, aug/havoc/mage only, link seed and CE
@ the guy earlier
Could just @ spec channels
It’s not much better in sub and outlaw
nope
At least its nice looking there, I enjoy it atm but take day off for season
Decent music too
got 2 free days for 15/16th 
Ravenholdt patch days really brings the worst in me
something has bothered me about the new zone a lot though
and pvp. and offtopic, if esra is awake.
do you have bis assa build for council in mind already
who the fuck is this random person
play boomkin
Yeah the bench
my only strategy that matters for council is turning my whole raid into ducks
standing there with literal aspects and shit and theres just some random ass night elf
raidbuffs not allowed on bench!
why are they all taller than you?
titan steroids i assume
sending hugs i gotchu
Then I’m gonna talent into caustic and bitch about the bosses not being stacked
art imitates life
you need to think about this, I dont wanna see scana run around with ic
Scana is beyond saving
scana in shambles trying to figure out how tf new sub works
whats even the range on ic
yes
No one knows
3-6 teemos
Sometimes it hits 20 yards away
stop, its 2-5 lulu's
sir we only use real units of measurement here
there are NA people in here
Rupture seems to be significantly longer range than garrote
even na uses teemos

?
Some times, at least
Sorry that’s my alt I’m doing the rep grind so I can have my shiny rock a week and a half earlier than everyone else
well then ty
yeah thats about 5 teemos
For all the people saying it saves money
Think about it like this
I can get like 80 rocks for 100,000 gold
Or
I can get 1 slightly bigger rock
For 100,000 gold
Do the math idiots
I like big rocks
i did it it out of boredom cuz im on sick leave due to surgery, is that okay?
no
youre gonna wipe alot whispyr need many rocks
Or you spend the time working which people are wasting on seeds and buy a token 
this didn't IC but i think it's because they're yellow mobs?
IC range is omega fucked, did 2 dungeons and its weird
doesnt matter
yellow mobs get ICed too
its about 3 prog nights to get my money back by my count
😛
even if they're not in combat?
smolderon is gonna push peoples shit in for 3months if I had to guess
ye
If we wipe cause I didn’t get my 86 agility reusable augment rune I’ll shave my head
at least it worked for me
okay so smaller than the duck murder
when i did the quests
and roughly the size of the goat thing murder
saving this
IC aoe range seems pretty damn small
so about 5 teemos
dunno if its increased by acro, i doubt it tho
maybe 4
ive been told it isnt yeah
gdi let me talent acro and go find more ducks
am I close to the augment I need a guide
I am getting dumpstered in cod atm lol
why ducks man
almost there
is IC based on your targets position or you?
target
You
?
@balmy condor do you have a guide on how to fix sleep schedules?
if its you, then Acro works
i've been like on top of mobs
It was changed recently
I am my own target
That will backfire
Weeks or a month or two ago
No but I do have 3 more guide pages due tomorrow and no will to live
The patch after smart targeting

It won’t actually I’ve said stupid shit like this every tier and it hasn’t mattered once
it would have to be like
Ads are getting smarter
a 0.001% wipe
boss guides? 
cant wait
with acro mob started on red dot. max melee range. right squirrel didn't get hit at about 6 teemos
This will make people kling to your stream
If I don't get a mount from one of the got damn seeds I'mma flip
alcohol
i havent gotten any of the mounts yet
I had a seed bug and drop 2 chests, both had a mount
but i have 2 more purple seeds from treasures so when i do them next week maybe we get one
same :c
BRUH
2purple seeds planted and nothing
why can't it be me
Previously IC would pull the entire instance with a single rupture cast
Looks a bit short if that's the current case
If I’m doing 8% of my raids damage then a 0.2% wipe would mean that rune is worth 2.5% of my dps
Goooood…….goooooood…..
its very tiny imo
okay yeah
like, i didnt expect it to stay as busted as the original IC
mathz
Ow Whispyr you mentioned that we can finish on 4 CP now instead of going over that: does that also hold true for Rupture ?
but half the time im like "why the fuck didnt that mob get hit"
they definitely overcorrected a bit
That's kinda annoying
okay so acro is technically a IC range increase then
Is rupture a finisher
and then yourei n this annoying spot of like
your imp garrote window is gone
but if you press another garrote on the mob that didnt get hit

There ya go then
It was very comfy withthe massive range, it was just a bit too much.
Ill go back to my dum dum cave
Rune for each raider ofc 😉
Or well, way too much
But still looks a bit smol
also not entirely sure if the IC aoe is still based on you, or your target
thats what she said 
and a mob behind you can get hit
but isnt new IC based on your target now
in terms of what it affects
not on you?
no it's self i was mistaken
Well then it’s everyone’s fault isn’t it
No it was on target and was changed to self
i never tried Sin but after the rework what are the pros and cons of the spec? from my understanding its dmg profile is super good and single target is above average but not the actual best?
That’s not on me
so you can kind of "extend" the range with positioning
i just hate how you cant press garrote for 7sec after subterfuge runs out
The rework was 2 days ago, you should try it
we're talkin like 4-5 teemos max
without rebuffing your stealth ones and losing dps
Tryin the other specs first 😅 im just asking out of curiousity
seli is a based dota enjoyer, go away with your weeb of legends shit
i dont even know what the fuck a teemo is
a unit of measurement
It's good, better cleave/aoe, single target still fun, KB is back
Sounds like it's just broken
i heard PI is rly good for the spec how is it in comparison to the others?
Don't think 1y range is the intended design
you just mean the one that you garrote yeah?
Depends, we had a 0.05% echo wipe this tier and 3 people didnt use second pot 😅 a rune would have done it there
It is the second best PI spec in the game rn
Comparative to UhDK, better than anyone else
that is sick
you only hit 1 with your first garrote, you hit 3 with the next one, but the last one didnt get pulled until 2sec into the pull. so your imp garrote window runs out. so you can now cast a regular garrote on that 5th mob to dot it up, but because IC is still active, itll overwrite 2 stealth garrotes too
Happy for you
oh IC is 10s now

ye
so you have this mob without garrote while its off cooldown the entire time
This is the patch that changed IC targeting
and the desire to hit it is strong
yeah that's kinda goofy
I assume its rly good with Spriest because sin is 2 min class
well 1 min but also 2 min
Yooooo new patch notes already that’s sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly, better than udk
the worst part is that while IC is active, garrote has a glow in the standard UI. so most regular players will be incentivized to hit the garrote on that one target, but its not actually good to do so

Oh god, he's losing it
hes lost it a long time ago
is this dagger properly implemented in simulationcraft?
Wake up gamers new patch notes hit 
big daggy
it does not show the damage in the list from it
Nice pawn
and it does around 1% dps
I’m gonna eat glass now
on target dummy
oh he's a horse now?


So I finally tested assa m+ yesterday
And after like 5 to 6 seasons I can say
It personally feels good to fucking press my dots
it will probably be thrown in the ocean in 1-2 weeks
@blazing jewel can you change your name back 
i'm uncomfy
dont
idk
let me check
if it makes somebody uncomfy you won
Was doing 15s with friends, they on alts, pulling 300/400k on packs without thinking much about it
here we go
Garroting the whole instance easily
true but I was wondering if it's better than nick of time for my alt on splits
W
repost


How fast does Sin play atm?
OnlyRogues when
possibly if you could compare to Sub rouge
imagine a diabetic turtle on the verge of having his legs amputated
heyyyyy that's pretty gud 
That's pretty much it from my yesterday's experience
thats an exaggeration but its definitely the slowest rogue spec
tbf aoe is pretty busy if things don't die immediately
you're just maintaining debuffs outside of cds basically
just hanging out
the pooling is what makes it slow tho right
chainin envenoms
had to get your cleavage on that pic, eh?
typical
yea
I tried it didnt let me
tbf, it can take some time until you actually start with that
you are just blasting for a good while on pull
yeah but he asked if/why the spec is slower
kingsbane is a vlast window anyway, after that its the small ~2sec windows bettwen envenoms
until the actually "wait for Energy" phase starts, some time passed
ye during burst windows its pretty much gcd capped, just averages out as slower bc of the phases between bursts
in burst:gcd capped
outside of burst, either small wait windows bettwen envenoms, or long wait window when envenom breaks
I'm assuming no, but do debuffs like mystic touch apply to dummies from peopel not in your party?
??????
The sim difference seems big: fresh 10.2 I simmed about 122k but if we go up a whopping 100k on max gear thats a lot.
The big ilvl jump definitely helps in that regard
following the ST opener on wowhead, I'm having problem getting step nr 14 in, I dont have enough combos to apply rupture before nightstalker runs out 😒 Is it a gear thing? I'm at 15% haste
Maybe using another Tea helps? It cant be GCD cause we are capped by default.
chose your sona
Never a gear thing
no choice anymore

you're probably waiting too long after dance to kingsbane would be my guess
if you can't do those 6 globals in dance
I'm just shy of 4 combos, its like half a second before nightstalker runs out. I'm using m+ build with acro, so no tea or anything
well mutilate is 2cp guaranteed
and you have time to cast 2 of them
before rupturing
so you are delaying something somewhere
ambush is 3cp
I should be casting mutilate in the 4-5 step above, (step 13 in guide) and not ambush?
2 with tight spender
no no i'm just using mutilate and ambush interchangably
I think the m+ builds take tight spender?
i have the raid build with improved ambush in my head tbh
the point is that you have time to cast 2 of them
so if you're only casting one and STILL missing the end of dance
then it means you're delaying something in there by more than a global
and most likely, you're pressing dance -> waiting a gloabl -> then pressing KB
either the kingsbane is being delayed or you're activating shadow dance immediately after shiv
but since dance is off gcd you can slam dance and kb at basically the same time
yes I think thats it shmeeps, I gotta either macro KB with dance, or be faster
it's not bad to macro it, as you're never supposed to use kb without dance
in pure st i think it's probably okay to macro them. just don't spam the macro right after you hit shiv or you'll be GCD locked for the KB
this is probably where he goes wrong and lacks a global for that rupture
thats it as well, I am to eager after shiv to hit dance
hits an early dance with no gcd, and is locked before doing kb
You can just use the macro that uses Kb on the second press of it and dance on the first
So you are flexible
For St and aoe
Without a 2nd keybind
if i was gonna play sin in keys id do that 
well maybe i will idk sub is confusing me
Sin in Keys is good fun
Dust doesn't seem that fun so I'm staying away
what macro is that Davyn? Is it in the pins/faq? A castsequence?
I think I'd rather play sin either way
Dust is whatever. You vanished after your CDs before anyways
Its in #subtlety-faq for dance macros, just gotta replace gloomblade with kb
Oh
How much dps is it if I mut over ambush in dance
Less than 400
huge
I figured with poison procs it's gotta be that close yea
Also Idk how people were saying they sim for less than they did before tuesday, I just ran one and I got like 5k more dps
I was like 135ish maybe and it was 140
somewhere about 136 or 138k lmao idk anymore
Raidbots sim lower than 10.1 but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....
sim dick meassurment is stupid anyway
I might have hit 140k by the end of the tier

People “believe” they do less overal@m+ damage as ret now then they did before patch
Even tho nothing substantial has changed :3
@balmy condor i got hit with the "sin needs to restealth between pulls" yesterday as a guildie brought in a mate. 
Based gingi enjoyer
I mean it's "general knowledge" for most wow players, it just happens to be wrong
that's gonna be the default answer for everyone you ask about it though
/cast [stance:0] Shadow Dance;Backstab
Just replace stab with kb
can someone explain the restealth meme to me?
Just did first key with rework, IC cleave range feels a bit weak
people think sin needs restealths between packs in m+.
but ... wait for it
it doesn't
epic meme
I see
so I would imagine there's a benefit to it, but it's not as big as people think it is?
Ty Davyn ❤️
Had the banfinger ready
doing this to prove how little any of this matters 
You can then either double tap for ST or tap once for dance and tap a second time after you spread your dots to use Kb delayed
Curious with the kingsbane shadowdance macro - is it less optimal coz it misses some of the kingsbane build up or does kingsbane snapshot from nightstalker?
Just tooltip off in WCL, or numbers too ? Seemed to deal way too much dmg at echo with just 2 waves of adds
thats actually BF tooltip 
spritzer is a way better name than spatter
Snapshot
Thanks @balmy condor
The entire tooltip is wrong the damage it does makes sense though
its the same thing
Wait is it actually Spritzer in german
Wdym
why we finish 4+ instead of 5+? I mean, in kingsbane window i see a point, but why we rupture or envenom at 4+ in maintenance phase?
and it still should be called Splatter
I wouldn’t translate caustic to äztend
yes i realize it means the same thing
But guess so blizzard
spritzer is funnier than spatter though
Less cp waste
combo point efficiency ends up being basically equal to combo point maximization per finisher
i also would not translate sap with headbut, but hey

@balmy condorty
Translations are pretty awkward
Thanks!
Schwarzwasserschimmerschuppenveste 
now translate "Underhanded Upper Hand"
i always think about that 1moment in BfA, the bloos of the enemy grind
1guy asked for ingamd voicechat in the bg, i joined cus why not
during the match he yelled ROGUE USE HEADBUT USE HEADBUT
i legit didnt knew what he meant
Kinda cool ngl
Unterhändische überhand
Idk what the actual thing is
Probably some dumb shit
Let’s find out
Oh no
regarding the energy pooling situation re: "you should never spam your abilities but rather wait for some energy income," is there a number we should try to keep or it's too situational
destiny2 also has great translations into german
there is a perk called Slideways (you reload your weapon when sliding)
in german its called Wooooosh!


When do i send kb in aoe? Just make Sure its still in dance and in a target with all Dots?
Its pretty spot on
Actually
People that like the german client probably also enjoy their vids with german dirty talk

Ach ja Schatzi genau so
Voll geil
ja papa
Kinkshaming? 
yes
Das machst du ja krass
I mean, as long as it is cute and medieval like, I see german as absolute benefit to dirty talking
Gibs mir dreckig. Oh mein Gott, genau da.
Just no
I mean even the most basic things sound stupid. Like fuck and fick, its just one letter but it sounds infinitely more cringe
I meant like the scenery in the plot, castles, stables, nature, and milch
Fick dich alter
Is probably
The goofiest thing
Anyone could tell you
I’d actually laugh if someone yelled that to me irl
Did you see the vid of eminem talking german? Its pretty old
tbf, "using english words" is a really normal part of the younger german generation
Don’t remind me of that
why do know so much german whisp ?
Nutrition is important for pink parsing there
his parents are
he just grew up in NA
Growing up speaking and learning German in school
the tl:dr version
Ich fick dich auseinander, du knuffliges Knuddelbärchen
i see
Hurensohn ist das einzige was geht, und das halt weils was besonderes inzwischen ist
See like this could be just a German guy being angry at me for cutting him off on the road
Or a flirt
Accurate
thats hot af
WOW I am using Knuddelbärchen in my out of wow life, its hella DPS
Like Hurensohn sounds way more aggressive than son of a bitch
oh my god it actually sounds like whoreson
You dont know the Video? 
I do not
but is used in a totally different manner at this point 
I always read Hühnersohn and in my head I always go “KIKIRIKI”
der Markt kann meine schmerzen nicht Lindern

What Video?
I need an adult, I'm being approached by german memes
We are all you need friend
Based on my YouTube viewership wow is an incredibly world-wide game, if the world consists of North America, Germany, Brazil, and Scandinavia, in that order, and nothing else
Es lebe das deutsche Fernsehen, denn hier kann man fluchen wie man will. Das macht Eminem auch und haut alle Schimpwörter raus, die er je gehört hat. Außerdem improvisiert er mit Stefan eine Version von "Zucker im Kaffee".
Die ganze Folge auf MySpass: https://www.myspass.de/9471

At like 3 minutes
Does anyone use a macro to Dance/KB and is it beneficial to do so? Or will it bring issues into the rotation?
#assassination message
Follow that up to the macro
Thats only 8 years ago?
why is the pooling practise tool stuck on telling me to use thistle tea?
In german we don’t say “oh it’s December” we say “ach du scheiße alter is ja schon der erste Advent muss mal ne Kerze zünden“
Gpop
fucking Gpop
Probably cause you have thistle tea charges to burn
using that one next time Kpop is spammed
fair enough
Its Gunter Torben Jörg Siegfried and the leader is Herbert

is there a rough number you want to pool to? obviously you can't keep envenom up 100% of the time so would it be better to let it drop to reach X energy?
Die Fantastischen Fünf
80%
love the new guides ❤️ definitely doing sin for raids
check whispyr yt chanell he explains everything well there
Ty
interesting, so 240 energy in my case
Where is this pooling practice tool?
guys i did the mage tower 🥹
pog
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
ty
It’s mostly for like
When you get tier
You can claim that it’s wrong because you don’t want to chain since the uptime is the same
So you can stay above 50%
ahh so it's more of a 10.2 kinda thing
And my answer to that is didn’t ask
Like pooling is good to understand
But there’s slight differences patch to patch
That aren’t particularly important
yo assa is so cool on m+ i did a bunch of m+ yesterday and never had this fun on the spec, sudden demise is crazy
Much easier to just go “hey this how you pool0
Omg that moment when I understand the sentence as Bohemian and I am still in my beginning with german (leveling via duolingo), those candles ....
And then dump it
last question for now, is there a minimum energy that you go into dance with?
on single target
No
is it because you probably have tea for every dance?
The most important candle is the one while having a candlelight Döner
I guess that wasn't the last question 
Well you have tea for the end of every kingsbane, which is outside of dance
But it’s more like you just… have energy
Idk
ambush costs less then mutilate aswell
fair enough, I just figured that it's possible to run yourself dry going into dance, but pooling solves that problem
and dance means ambush
No it doesn’t
wait really
It never has
they're both 50 on my tooltips
Crack smokers in this channel today giving you a contact high tryan
Tryan caught spreading misinformation?!

Twice in like 4 hours even
pog
One more and he gets a free coffee
i know the problem
i got more sleep today
cranky fox Tryan would have never said such a thing
(well it was 60 but you glyphed it to reduce the cost by 5)
rogues dont sleep lmao
needs to be sleep deprived
what was that fish called













