#assassination

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obtuse valley
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Just changes nameplate to one color for spatter and then another for spatter+kingsbane

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I have the same thing for rupture and rupture+garrote and for my spriests dots+DP so you can more easily keep track of dots and prio targets in big pulls

warm urchin
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how do i change color for spatter in plater?

gaunt sigil
past forum
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"make sure you have instant poison applied" that's too long of a gcd for outlaw zoomers

true basalt
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Chad playing sin rogue

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What else do u sin

past forum
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they need pi just to apply poisons fast enough for them to not have a menty b from sitting still

runic terrace
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Our opener is faaar to long😅

dry root
gaunt moat
true basalt
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You’ll get used to it, it’ll be mechanical once you practice it.
Look at Arcane mage openers and you’ll be greatful

past forum
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does deathmark have some sort of aoe scaling? like, does pressing it make us do more aoe or just pound that target way harder?

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forgot about the lethal poison part, answered me own question

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ty!

raven egret
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Caustic loves Deathmark 😄

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I just ran another dungeon with a tweaked build, felt way better! Think I got the hang of this with what we have right now

past forum
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i'm having so much fun with the new m+ build

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it cranks so hard during kb

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and you're also not a potato on every other pull

gaunt moat
tribal heath
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quick question, can anyone tell me if Ambush procs the dmg of Caustic Spatter when you get Blindside procs?

simple gyro
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It activates the debuff yes

raven egret
balmy condor
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But it doesn’t spread damage

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It’s physical damage

tribal heath
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thats kinda rough, considering blindside can proc quite a lot at times, hurts the aoe gained from spatter

simple gyro
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Vicious venoms can proc off caustic if talented. Just that nature part

balmy condor
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Why are you using ambush in aoe

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?????????

tribal heath
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blindside replaces mutilate on proc now

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er replaces mute with ambush

balmy condor
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Okay

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So why are you mutilating in aoe

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It’s the same question

true basalt
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You just need to maintain caustic

raven egret
balmy condor
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Yeah I mean blindside helped tremendously with your single target

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And killed your aoe

tribal heath
balmy condor
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Those point gotta come from somewhere

cerulean nest
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anyone know why I randomly am stuck at 60 drake crests? I didnt spend any

storm forum
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Isn't the cap 60/week?

cerulean nest
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nah 90

balmy condor
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Does your cap say 60/90

storm forum
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Oh, no idea then

cerulean nest
balmy condor
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Unlucky

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Keep farming I guess

storm forum
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Blizzard hates you ig

cerulean nest
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I was getting them consistently and then suddenly like 15 seeds in a row without one

raven egret
storm forum
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I died to so much shit in m+ today

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Cause I'm not used to playing without acro yet

balmy condor
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I didn’t do m+ this week

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Cause I’m not a loser PU_PepeKekThis

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M+ is for next week

storm forum
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I didn't do any ptr m+ so I figured I should learn how sooner rather than later

raven egret
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yeah tbh I needed the practice

storm forum
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I did much better on the second dungeon at least

balmy condor
storm forum
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Wtf

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I'm not going that hard

balmy condor
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Warrior in my guild last tier did 86 keys week 1

storm forum
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Unless liquid pays me to

tribal heath
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what build you you recommend for keys? just looking at wowhead, and im seeing "hybrid" and "arterial shock."
currently im just running one i found on warcraft logs of one of the higher up rogues, idr the name

storm forum
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I might go hard for that

raven egret
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I'll be going as hard as I can on tuesday

storm forum
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I've been playing hybrid because more KB/boss damage and I played Arterial most of last tier.

balmy condor
tribal heath
runic hinge
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So you’re recommending AP cause blizz likes buffing shiv right?

balmy condor
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I don’t care one way or the other

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They’re both viable for different reasons

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Pick one

tribal heath
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lmao for sure, just thought i'd ask xD

storm forum
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I don't think most people have done enough keys with both to form a relevant opinion. And we haven't seen the new dungeons outside of ptr

balmy condor
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No one has done any keys

storm forum
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The last couple tiers, my choice depended on the dungeon and affix

balmy condor
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Keys this week don’t count

storm forum
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And how I was feeling

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And the signs of the moon and stars

true basalt
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I did some keys to get used to my new keybinds and it was good

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Low keys tho

storm forum
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Dude that was my plan cause we canceled raid, but my guildmates roped me into a not chill 25

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Freaking tryhards

true basalt
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Why a 25 this week xD

deft vault
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for a high key next week

storm forum
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Idk, cause my friends are psychos and we +2'd the chill 23

raven egret
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Well hey some people didnt do keys in a while, so they had to run some to get a higher one next week

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-11, that 25 still gives a +14 next week

runic hinge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
storm forum
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Do you think our characters feel the call of the void?

storm forum
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Cause when I got barreled and lost control of my rogue, she bee-lined it for the green and brown bad circles

royal lantern
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nobody is immune to that shit

storm forum
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Gnight buds

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Don't die in your sleep

royal lantern
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call of the void is so interesting cus of how normal it is with nobody really knowing that

storm forum
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Tonight at least

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Call of the void is so scary cause it's something that I really don't want to be part of the human experience but it seems to be

haughty flicker
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its strange for sure

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"i should just drive into oncoming traffic"

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"wait no i shouldnt wtf"

royal lantern
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soooooo

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its litearlly your brain going "you could and maybe should do that"

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just to remind itself 1sec later "no, its really really really bad, avoid it at all cost"

storm forum
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My brain is bad at that second part

royal lantern
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yeha, thats when you need help kekman

storm forum
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Too bad I'm

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Vroom vroom, red lights here I come

severe carbon
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hey y'all, is everyone recrafting their toxic thorn footwraps off the bat this week?

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is it worth waiting at all?

keen spruce
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the question is really "what are you gaining by crafting them this week?"

spice spire
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Miss shmeeps off meds

keen spruce
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that's the secret

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i'm always off the meds Plotge

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u just haven't been in outlaw chat today

spice spire
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Bless up

keen spruce
main solar
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Is envenom's duration still bugged, or is it just a display issue?

spice spire
keen spruce
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I don't even know why i unmuted outlaw

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i don't even know what that spec does anymore

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and haven't looked

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but there's some good popcorn content in there

pulsar apex
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
quiet oar
haughty flicker
quiet oar
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True

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Its the Pew pew Spec

slate crown
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I click back and it's just a giant wall of conversation hundreds of messages

keen spruce
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they're still talkin about aug

spice spire
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That’s the LE diff

spice spire
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They’re there to serve you

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And when you’re gone

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Chaos

quiet oar
slate crown
spice spire
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Spread a lil misinformation?

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Say less

quiet oar
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Like "Do we use Kingsbane before Shadow Dance?"

steel spire
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Is outlaw ded ez

quiet oar
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Wait this is a Question

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Back to the drawing board

royal lantern
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fuck aug

slate crown
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No gotta be like "So when we use Kingsbane before shadow dance, should that be synced with our second shiv or held until tea is at 3 stacks?"

quiet oar
balmy condor
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I’ll make the whimper audio

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Just please not that

spice spire
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I’d never do that to you here

earnest remnant
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Hey whispyr i see that zerocool is not running IW in keys, is the talent dead?

haughty flicker
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someone told me i should be spreading doomblade with mutilate, can someone confirm this for me?

spice spire
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Can I mute stealthi

steel spire
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Is there a slice build similar to outlaw snake eyes build for assas starege

quiet oar
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Technically you can

balmy condor
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If I beg for not stupid, I get stupid
If I disappear to avoid stupid, I get stupid

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Why live

rugged wadi
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do we know with wich classes we sharing tokens?

spice spire
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Mulch

balmy condor
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Warrior and whatever

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Idk

rugged wadi
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kk thanks

balmy condor
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I can’t care

quiet oar
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Warrior Monk Evoker

balmy condor
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Sure

royal lantern
quiet oar
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Fur Stupid monkahmm Is that why you transformed to a Lizard?

haughty flicker
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whispyr is a lizard?

spice spire
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Actually think he’s down guys and gals

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Maybe we be normal hmm

quiet oar
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No Tryan

balmy condor
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You couldn’t have gotten that out of me in 10.0

spice spire
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Yeah

strange python
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Rip

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whispyr , thanks for providing such good support ❤️

balmy condor
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You’re welcome

haughty flicker
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the videos have definitely been helping me wrap my peanut brain around sin

royal lantern
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tbf

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its a spec that sometimes looks complicated until you play it for 1hour and it clicks

past forum
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bad to chad in just one short youtube session

past forum
spice spire
keen spruce
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the only thing clicking in my head is the failing hardrive disc trying to spool

royal lantern
haughty flicker
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it doesnt help that ive spent the last two months playing outlaw in prog so my brain is wired to just press things off gcd

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new sin is fun though, having giga burst is nice

keen spruce
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I should go hit dummies

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i've been doin sub keys and it's not helping me learn sass at all

past forum
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praying this droptimizer doesn't tell me i should be wearing a time rift trinket going into next tier

keen spruce
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i mean even if it does

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just don't smile_dog

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go farm m+ trinkets

haughty flicker
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time rift is like

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10 minutes

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whats the problem lol

slate crown
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10 minutes

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sounds like more than 0 minutes

past forum
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its just the principle of it lol it's not actually that bad just memeing

haughty flicker
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sounds like less than farming m+ trinkets

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time rifts are cool dont @ me

past forum
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and ive had a full m+ and raid vault every week but literally nothing to show for it in the trinket department

balmy condor
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Excellent stuff

haughty flicker
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imagine getting a trinket to drop within your first 50 runs

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couldnt be me

sick aspen
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is it worth upgrading superbloom veteran gear to 463 and converting to tier?

past forum
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yeah i know, like i said just memeing

balmy condor
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I wouldn’t recommend upgrading world content gear in general though

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Cause that’s just

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A stupid idea

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But if you’re super dopamine starved and need an instantaneous hit

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Go for it man

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Worlds your oyster

haughty flicker
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tbf what else are you gonna use whelp crests on

balmy condor
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Whelp is only 450

severe carbon
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if you do time rifts and dreamsurge right now, you can buy gear upgradable to 450 ilvl and convert it to current tier

haughty flicker
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yeah i wouldnt upgrade it past 450 this week

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just use up whelp crests is all

severe carbon
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doesnt cost any catalyst charges cos its season 2 tier

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Thanks to some gearing updates in Patch 10.2, it's now possible to quickly and easily obtain a full set of 450 Aberrus Tier on every single character. Since this is even higher ilvl than what was obtainable from Mythic Aberrus, getting this gear should be a top priority for all players, even if they already had full BiS last season.

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haughty flicker
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i mean i wouldnt go that far out of your way unless maybe its a new alt

severe carbon
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great if you're still a baby rogue like me pepesmile

haughty flicker
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but ye if you dont have much gear that looks nice

severe carbon
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probably worth it for anything other than 447-450 imo
if you've still got 441 tier somehow i reckon its probably the best upgrade you can do this week

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cos you wont replace tier except with other tier, may as well max the ilvl for s2 tier

royal lantern
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not for people that actually, well, DO that stuff

haughty flicker
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thats kind of my point yes

eternal heath
haughty flicker
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use them now since they're basically worthless once you start doing stuff next week

balmy condor
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Week 1 pre season minmaxing for 0.4% so you can log in and do week 2 season minmaxing for 30% instead of 30.4%

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My favorite

haughty flicker
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i mean

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its just something to do this week

severe carbon
keen spruce
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blizzard should just send out practice SATs on week 1 of a patch so people have something to occupy themselves

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make number go up Stonks

balmy condor
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Yeah I mean I get it if it’s a new character without tier I get it

fossil slate
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Which currency is needed to upgrade those pieces to 450?

severe carbon
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im a degen no lifer week 1 though so my opinion should be disregarded hahah

balmy condor
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But Jesus man

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It’s like the people trying to hit renown 14 this week or whatever

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With 3 characters

eternal heath
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that is gross

keen spruce
dark light
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Touching grass should be required

haughty flicker
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the people rushing for renown is definitely on a different level

balmy condor
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How do you look at yourself in the mirror after rep farming pre-season so you can get a re-usable augment rune thats equal to the augment runes we already have

severe carbon
keen spruce
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3 ilvls on your legs is completely meaningless when our trinkets and enchants swing our damage thousands of dps up and down

haughty flicker
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spending 10 minutes doing a time rift is fine but even i dont hate myself enough to be farming to fucking 18 renown week 1

severe carbon
keen spruce
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right but who cares

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you're gonna replace it

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like what are you actually gaining next week

haughty flicker
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why does it matter

keen spruce
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what is 3 ilvls going to accomplish for you

severe carbon
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my previously 415 ilvl rogue gained quite a lot from it tbh

gaunt moat
severe carbon
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i already said its probably not worth it if you've already got good tier lol

royal lantern
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and cant walk out of fire in fights

earnest remnant
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im only renown 15

haughty flicker
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only

past forum
keen spruce
spiral pasture
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even if i used all my shit i wouldnt be 15 wtf

keen spruce
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i'm not flappin over to the darkmoon faire

haughty flicker
keen spruce
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and i'm not doin no goofy grind on my rat alts

royal lantern
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im 3

past forum
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i got keystone hero death metal knight so i can just portal to the fair ez

keen spruce
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and i'm race changing human KEK

earnest remnant
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but did i need to do it?

balmy condor
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You know it’s bad when I go to shmeeps to ask if he can hit a target dummy for 4 hours straight

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But he refuses to go to dmf for 3 minutes

steel ridge
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What rep grind, its so free

royal lantern
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you know what also free

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doing anything else

raven egret
severe carbon
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1400 gold per rune, if i average 30 odd pulls in a raid night, 3 raid nights and ive got my money back

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i feel like its worth it 😛

balmy condor
royal lantern
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people are proud that they waste time

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like

haughty flicker
royal lantern
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brub

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you need help and a hobby

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not wow

spiral pasture
royal lantern
raven egret
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I didnt mass farm seeds or whatnot

drifting cloud
past forum
drifting cloud
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its like under 10h

haughty flicker
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why rep grind when i can jump around the fountain in valdrakken and read discord

steel ridge
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Haha my guild is paying foe the perma rune kekdog

balmy condor
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Nice try ryler

raven egret
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Aside rep grind is all I have, I'm doing absolute dogshit boss damage using the M+ Hybrid build so I'm now hitting a dummy 24/7 trying to figure that one out

balmy condor
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You’re not getting me with that bait

drifting cloud
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what bait bro its just whatever end of the day, let people do whatever they want

balmy condor
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I’m not stopping them

drifting cloud
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more people do it is better for you anyways

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cheaper auggies!

keen spruce
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mfers won't even open a wowhead guide but will drag their balls through broken glass for a rock with 86 agi on it ICANT

severe carbon
raven egret
snow kindle
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learning new rotation > rock

steel spire
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gollUMM but precious

severe carbon
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i like just throwing on netflix or spotify and mindlessly grinding

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sue me

steel ridge
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Well i gotta do the quests anyway

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Might aswell min max it

haughty flicker
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why grind when i can

pure sail
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
raven egret
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Swapping all my gear off from that massive amount of crit I had from 10.1.7 Sub setup is taking time too, re-gemmed and enchanted, I'm doing what I must

balmy condor
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Just why

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Nothing after it

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Wake up, ask why

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Go bed, ask why

haughty flicker
steel ridge
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why be

royal lantern
haughty flicker
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dont tell me you never used the oribos lap timer

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sometimes you just need to run in circles while reading shitposts

balmy condor
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So uh

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Yeah interesting works

royal lantern
severe carbon
royal lantern
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crit>the rest, is like the assa gearing Process since forever

severe carbon
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take it back

raven egret
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I read guide and adapt with my sims and nobody loves me 😢

balmy condor
keen spruce
steel ridge
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Mastery is huge

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Essence on mastery instead of crit was 500dps for me 👀

keen spruce
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I'm now a stat nihilist

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nothing matters

balmy condor
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I just

keen spruce
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i have reached zen

balmy condor
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I want one day

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Where people just look at the guide

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And go “oh okay”

haughty flicker
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theres a guide?

balmy condor
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And then say the things in that

keen spruce
balmy condor
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Instead of just brain vomiting on their keyboard

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One single day

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Like an international holiday or something

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Who do I petition for that

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Maybe one of those micro holidays in game

haughty flicker
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just start muting people so they have the time to read the guide

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tyrant whispyr arc

steel ridge
royal lantern
oblique wasp
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Yooo how we doing?

runic hinge
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Go the maplestory route and kick anyone who asks a question directly covered on wowhead

marble hemlock
oblique wasp
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Hows the patch for you guys?

keen spruce
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back in my day we didn't even know what ravenholdt was.

we went to icy veins until someone told us wowhead was better.
then we scoured the pages for hours not finding what we were looking for.
then googled for another 2 hours until we found ravenholdt.
then asked our question there.
THEN they called you a fucking idiot.

times change man

marble hemlock
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Actually, make spec channels cf/blade/shadow AND patreon only for a day.

steel spire
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If it looks cool it's good 👍

balmy condor
past forum
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Need for Seed

keen spruce
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LFM purple seeds, aug/havoc/mage only, link seed and CE

severe carbon
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@ the guy earlier

balmy condor
balmy condor
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It’s not much better in sub and outlaw

earnest remnant
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nope

oblique wasp
runic hinge
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Decent music too

royal lantern
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got 2 free days for 15/16th poggers

balmy condor
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Ravenholdt patch days really brings the worst in me

haughty flicker
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something has bothered me about the new zone a lot though

marble hemlock
drifting cloud
haughty flicker
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who the fuck is this random person

royal lantern
balmy condor
keen spruce
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my only strategy that matters for council is turning my whole raid into ducks

haughty flicker
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standing there with literal aspects and shit and theres just some random ass night elf

drifting cloud
marble hemlock
haughty flicker
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titan steroids i assume

eternal heath
balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
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Big fan of hugs

drifting cloud
keen spruce
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scana in shambles trying to figure out how tf new sub works

drifting cloud
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whats even the range on ic

royal lantern
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yes

balmy condor
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No one knows

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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Sometimes it hits 20 yards away

royal lantern
balmy condor
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Sometimes they’re right next to me

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And it misses

haughty flicker
royal lantern
past forum
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Rupture seems to be significantly longer range than garrote

haughty flicker
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even na uses teemos

runic hinge
haughty flicker
past forum
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Some times, at least

balmy condor
# haughty flicker ?

Sorry that’s my alt I’m doing the rep grind so I can have my shiny rock a week and a half earlier than everyone else

keen spruce
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it was about this far

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for ic

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so yeah between 3-6 teemos checks out

haughty flicker
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yeah thats about 5 teemos

balmy condor
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For all the people saying it saves money

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Think about it like this

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I can get like 80 rocks for 100,000 gold

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Or

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I can get 1 slightly bigger rock

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For 100,000 gold

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Do the math idiots

raven egret
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I like big rocks

earnest remnant
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i did it it out of boredom cuz im on sick leave due to surgery, is that okay?

drifting cloud
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youre gonna wipe alot whispyr need many rocks

distant helm
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Or you spend the time working which people are wasting on seeds and buy a token stonk

keen spruce
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this didn't IC but i think it's because they're yellow mobs?

steel ridge
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IC range is omega fucked, did 2 dungeons and its weird

marble hemlock
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yellow mobs get ICed too

severe carbon
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😛

keen spruce
drifting cloud
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smolderon is gonna push peoples shit in for 3months if I had to guess

marble hemlock
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ye

balmy condor
marble hemlock
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at least it worked for me

keen spruce
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okay so smaller than the duck murder

marble hemlock
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when i did the quests

keen spruce
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and roughly the size of the goat thing murder

severe carbon
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saving this

marble hemlock
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IC aoe range seems pretty damn small

keen spruce
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so about 5 teemos

marble hemlock
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dunno if its increased by acro, i doubt it tho

keen spruce
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maybe 4

haughty flicker
keen spruce
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gdi let me talent acro and go find more ducks

drifting cloud
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am I close to the augment I need a guide

eternal heath
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I am getting dumpstered in cod atm lol

haughty flicker
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why ducks man

eternal heath
earnest remnant
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is IC based on your targets position or you?

keen spruce
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target

limber lion
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You

keen spruce
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?

marble hemlock
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@balmy condor do you have a guide on how to fix sleep schedules?

earnest remnant
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if its you, then Acro works

keen spruce
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i've been like on top of mobs

limber lion
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It was changed recently

past forum
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I am my own target

keen spruce
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oh

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how recently?> HMM

limber lion
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Weeks or a month or two ago

balmy condor
limber lion
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The patch after smart targeting

keen spruce
balmy condor
steel ridge
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One 0.2% wipe for whispyr guild and we get baldo

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👀

haughty flicker
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it would have to be like

steel ridge
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Ads are getting smarter

haughty flicker
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a 0.001% wipe

severe carbon
keen spruce
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with acro mob started on red dot. max melee range. right squirrel didn't get hit at about 6 teemos

steel ridge
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This will make people kling to your stream

runic hinge
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If I don't get a mount from one of the got damn seeds I'mma flip

haughty flicker
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i havent gotten any of the mounts yet

past forum
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I had a seed bug and drop 2 chests, both had a mount

haughty flicker
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but i have 2 more purple seeds from treasures so when i do them next week maybe we get one

hexed willow
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I’ve gotten 3 😄

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But not getting any more crests 😦

royal lantern
runic hinge
royal lantern
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2purple seeds planted and nothing

runic hinge
#

why can't it be me

limber lion
#

Previously IC would pull the entire instance with a single rupture cast

#

Looks a bit short if that's the current case

balmy condor
past forum
marble hemlock
keen spruce
#

okay yeah

marble hemlock
#

like, i didnt expect it to stay as busted as the original IC

smoky horizon
#

Ow Whispyr you mentioned that we can finish on 4 CP now instead of going over that: does that also hold true for Rupture ?

marble hemlock
#

but half the time im like "why the fuck didnt that mob get hit"

haughty flicker
#

they definitely overcorrected a bit

limber lion
#

That's kinda annoying

keen spruce
#

okay so acro is technically a IC range increase then

marble hemlock
#

and then yourei n this annoying spot of like

#

your imp garrote window is gone

#

but if you press another garrote on the mob that didnt get hit

smoky horizon
marble hemlock
#

you overwrite your stealth garrote

#

so you have to wait 7 more sec

balmy condor
marble hemlock
#

before you can garrote again

#

its really awkward

limber lion
#

It was very comfy withthe massive range, it was just a bit too much.

smoky horizon
#

Ill go back to my dum dum cave

limber lion
#

Or well, way too much

marble hemlock
#

ye

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honestly

#

if it were affected by acro

#

itd already be fine

limber lion
#

But still looks a bit smol

keen spruce
#

it is kind of affected by acro

#

cuz you can stand further away from a mob

marble hemlock
#

also not entirely sure if the IC aoe is still based on you, or your target

haughty flicker
keen spruce
#

and a mob behind you can get hit

marble hemlock
#

but isnt new IC based on your target now

#

in terms of what it affects

#

not on you?

keen spruce
#

no it's self i was mistaken

balmy condor
limber lion
#

No it was on target and was changed to self

arctic tusk
#

i never tried Sin but after the rework what are the pros and cons of the spec? from my understanding its dmg profile is super good and single target is above average but not the actual best?

balmy condor
#

That’s not on me

keen spruce
#

so you can kind of "extend" the range with positioning

marble hemlock
#

still awkward

#

but again, i dont really care about that

keen spruce
#

but like this didn't ic

#

so it's like

#

very small

marble hemlock
#

i just hate how you cant press garrote for 7sec after subterfuge runs out

runic hinge
keen spruce
#

we're talkin like 4-5 teemos max

marble hemlock
#

without rebuffing your stealth ones and losing dps

arctic tusk
royal lantern
marble hemlock
#

i dont even know what the fuck a teemo is

haughty flicker
#

a unit of measurement

keen spruce
runic hinge
limber lion
#

Sounds like it's just broken

arctic tusk
#

i heard PI is rly good for the spec how is it in comparison to the others?

limber lion
#

Don't think 1y range is the intended design

keen spruce
marble hemlock
#

well

#

say you have

#

5 mobs ye

steel ridge
runic hinge
limber lion
keen spruce
#

yeah 5 mobs, garrote all with subterfuge

#

then garrote one out of stealth

arctic tusk
marble hemlock
#

you only hit 1 with your first garrote, you hit 3 with the next one, but the last one didnt get pulled until 2sec into the pull. so your imp garrote window runs out. so you can now cast a regular garrote on that 5th mob to dot it up, but because IC is still active, itll overwrite 2 stealth garrotes too

marble hemlock
#

ye

limber lion
marble hemlock
#

so you have this mob without garrote while its off cooldown the entire time

limber lion
#

This is the patch that changed IC targeting

marble hemlock
#

and the desire to hit it is strong

keen spruce
#

yeah that's kinda goofy

arctic tusk
#

well 1 min but also 2 min

balmy condor
limber lion
marble hemlock
#

the worst part is that while IC is active, garrote has a glow in the standard UI. so most regular players will be incentivized to hit the garrote on that one target, but its not actually good to do so

runic hinge
#

Oh god, he's losing it

marble hemlock
#

hes lost it a long time ago

hoary shell
#

is this dagger properly implemented in simulationcraft?

steel spire
#

Wake up gamers new patch notes hit EZ

haughty flicker
#

big daggy

hoary shell
#

it does not show the damage in the list from it

balmy condor
#

Nice pawn

hoary shell
#

and it does around 1% dps

balmy condor
#

I’m gonna eat glass now

hoary shell
#

on target dummy

keen spruce
#

i'm gettin whispyr a professional massage and a bag of ketamine for his birthday

haughty flicker
blazing jewel
normal mist
#

So I finally tested assa m+ yesterday

#

And after like 5 to 6 seasons I can say

#

It personally feels good to fucking press my dots

keen spruce
#

@blazing jewel can you change your name back caterm

#

i'm uncomfy

royal lantern
#

dont

royal lantern
#

if it makes somebody uncomfy you won

normal mist
#

Was doing 15s with friends, they on alts, pulling 300/400k on packs without thinking much about it

blazing jewel
#

here we go

normal mist
#

Garroting the whole instance easily

hoary shell
normal mist
#

W

keen spruce
#

repost

blazing jewel
keen spruce
#

I was sittin there for like 3 hours

blazing jewel
#

my m+ group was summoning me

#

and I said I was doing something important

keen spruce
arctic tusk
#

How fast does Sin play atm?

arctic tusk
#

possibly if you could compare to Sub rouge

haughty flicker
arctic tusk
#

LOL

#

got it.

keen spruce
#

heyyyyy that's pretty gud thumbsup

normal mist
#

That's pretty much it from my yesterday's experience

haughty flicker
lucid rain
#

tbf aoe is pretty busy if things don't die immediately

arctic tusk
#

is it an energy thing

#

pooling

keen spruce
#

ye wowhead guide covers all of it

#

but we pooling

haughty flicker
#

you're just maintaining debuffs outside of cds basically

keen spruce
#

just hanging out

arctic tusk
#

the pooling is what makes it slow tho right

keen spruce
#

chainin envenoms

marble hemlock
#

typical

blazing jewel
#

yea

keen spruce
#

can you selfie cam while sitting?

#

if so missed opportunity

blazing jewel
#

I tried it didnt let me

keen spruce
#

for cute picnic pic

#

goddamnit blizzard

royal lantern
#

you are just blasting for a good while on pull

keen spruce
#

yeah but he asked if/why the spec is slower

royal lantern
#

kingsbane is a vlast window anyway, after that its the small ~2sec windows bettwen envenoms

#

until the actually "wait for Energy" phase starts, some time passed

haughty flicker
#

ye during burst windows its pretty much gcd capped, just averages out as slower bc of the phases between bursts

royal lantern
#

in burst:gcd capped

outside of burst, either small wait windows bettwen envenoms, or long wait window when envenom breaks

blazing jewel
#

kb crits

keen spruce
#

I'm assuming no, but do debuffs like mystic touch apply to dummies from peopel not in your party?

royal lantern
#

scana

#

that name

#

sets it in stone

blazing jewel
#

??????

smoky horizon
#

The sim difference seems big: fresh 10.2 I simmed about 122k but if we go up a whopping 100k on max gear thats a lot.

#

The big ilvl jump definitely helps in that regard

stark mirage
#

following the ST opener on wowhead, I'm having problem getting step nr 14 in, I dont have enough combos to apply rupture before nightstalker runs out 😒 Is it a gear thing? I'm at 15% haste

smoky horizon
#

Maybe using another Tea helps? It cant be GCD cause we are capped by default.

royal lantern
royal lantern
#

no choice anymore

blazing jewel
keen spruce
#

you're probably waiting too long after dance to kingsbane would be my guess

#

if you can't do those 6 globals in dance

stark mirage
#

I'm just shy of 4 combos, its like half a second before nightstalker runs out. I'm using m+ build with acro, so no tea or anything

royal lantern
#

was obvious tbh

keen spruce
#

and you have time to cast 2 of them

#

before rupturing

#

so you are delaying something somewhere

royal lantern
stark mirage
#

I should be casting mutilate in the 4-5 step above, (step 13 in guide) and not ambush?

slate crown
#

2 with tight spender

keen spruce
slate crown
#

I think the m+ builds take tight spender?

royal lantern
keen spruce
#

the point is that you have time to cast 2 of them

#

so if you're only casting one and STILL missing the end of dance

#

then it means you're delaying something in there by more than a global

#

and most likely, you're pressing dance -> waiting a gloabl -> then pressing KB

lucid rain
#

either the kingsbane is being delayed or you're activating shadow dance immediately after shiv

keen spruce
#

but since dance is off gcd you can slam dance and kb at basically the same time

stark mirage
#

yes I think thats it shmeeps, I gotta either macro KB with dance, or be faster

hollow dirge
#

it's not bad to macro it, as you're never supposed to use kb without dance

keen spruce
#

in pure st i think it's probably okay to macro them. just don't spam the macro right after you hit shiv or you'll be GCD locked for the KB

hollow dirge
stark mirage
#

thats it as well, I am to eager after shiv to hit dance

hollow dirge
#

hits an early dance with no gcd, and is locked before doing kb

grim jay
#

So you are flexible

#

For St and aoe

#

Without a 2nd keybind

keen spruce
#

if i was gonna play sin in keys id do that thumbsup

#

well maybe i will idk sub is confusing me

grim jay
#

Sin in Keys is good fun

runic hinge
#

Dust doesn't seem that fun so I'm staying away

keen spruce
#

i cooked up a no dust m+ build

#

only -2%ish in dungeon slice

stark mirage
#

what macro is that Davyn? Is it in the pins/faq? A castsequence?

runic hinge
#

I think I'd rather play sin either way

grim jay
#

Dust is whatever. You vanished after your CDs before anyways

keen spruce
#

I didn't squishykek

#

that was important defensive for me

grim jay
keen spruce
#

sub faq is kinda blown up

#

atm

grim jay
#

Oh

runic hinge
#

How much dps is it if I mut over ambush in dance

royal lantern
#

ambush big ouchi

#

mutilate not so big ouchi

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

huge

runic hinge
#

I figured with poison procs it's gotta be that close yea

#

Also Idk how people were saying they sim for less than they did before tuesday, I just ran one and I got like 5k more dps

keen spruce
#

I don't even remember what I simmed for last patch

runic hinge
#

I was like 135ish maybe and it was 140

royal lantern
balmy condor
royal lantern
#

sim dick meassurment is stupid anyway

keen spruce
#

I might have hit 140k by the end of the tier

keen spruce
#

i don't member

bronze pike
#

People “believe” they do less overal@m+ damage as ret now then they did before patch

#

Even tho nothing substantial has changed :3

grim jay
#

@balmy condor i got hit with the "sin needs to restealth between pulls" yesterday as a guildie brought in a mate. feelscryman

keen spruce
#

I mean it's "general knowledge" for most wow players, it just happens to be wrong

#

that's gonna be the default answer for everyone you ask about it though

grim jay
lucid rain
#

can someone explain the restealth meme to me?

grizzled storm
#

Just did first key with rework, IC cleave range feels a bit weak

keen spruce
#

it doesn't

#

epic meme

lucid rain
#

I see

#

so I would imagine there's a benefit to it, but it's not as big as people think it is?

stark mirage
#

Ty Davyn ❤️

grim jay
keen spruce
#

doing this to prove how little any of this matters squishykek

grim jay
# stark mirage Ty Davyn ❤️

You can then either double tap for ST or tap once for dance and tap a second time after you spread your dots to use Kb delayed

median solar
#

Curious with the kingsbane shadowdance macro - is it less optimal coz it misses some of the kingsbane build up or does kingsbane snapshot from nightstalker?

tepid idol
#

Just tooltip off in WCL, or numbers too ? Seemed to deal way too much dmg at echo with just 2 waves of adds

kind forge
#

thats actually BF tooltip kekdog

haughty flicker
#

spritzer is a way better name than spatter

median solar
#

Thanks @balmy condor

balmy condor
royal lantern
grim jay
brittle falcon
#

why we finish 4+ instead of 5+? I mean, in kingsbane window i see a point, but why we rupture or envenom at 4+ in maintenance phase?

royal lantern
#

and it still should be called Splatter

balmy condor
#

I wouldn’t translate caustic to äztend

haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

But guess so blizzard

haughty flicker
#

spritzer is funnier than spatter though

keen spruce
royal lantern
brittle falcon
#

@balmy condorty

grim jay
balmy condor
#

Meucheln Starege

#

Tückische Klinge Starege

grim jay
#

I always cringe seeing guildies post screenshots of their german clients

balmy condor
#

Schwarzwasserschimmerschuppenveste Starege

grim jay
#

Thats so bad

lucid rain
#

now translate "Underhanded Upper Hand"

royal lantern
#

i always think about that 1moment in BfA, the bloos of the enemy grind

1guy asked for ingamd voicechat in the bg, i joined cus why not

during the match he yelled ROGUE USE HEADBUT USE HEADBUT

i legit didnt knew what he meant

balmy condor
#

Unterhand überhand

#

Based

lucid rain
#

Kinda cool ngl

balmy condor
#

Unterhändische überhand

#

Idk what the actual thing is

#

Probably some dumb shit

#

Let’s find out

grim jay
#

Oh no

kind forge
#

Hinterlistige Oberhand

#

looked it up at wowhead

pure sail
#

regarding the energy pooling situation re: "you should never spam your abilities but rather wait for some energy income," is there a number we should try to keep or it's too situational

royal lantern
#

destiny2 also has great translations into german

there is a perk called Slideways (you reload your weapon when sliding)

in german its called Wooooosh!

kind forge
royal lantern
strong sleet
#

When do i send kb in aoe? Just make Sure its still in dance and in a target with all Dots?

balmy condor
#

Probably correct

#

But cringe

grim jay
#

Its pretty spot on

#

Actually

#

People that like the german client probably also enjoy their vids with german dirty talk

balmy condor
#

Voll geil

royal lantern
#

ja papa

sturdy mesa
#

Kinkshaming? PepeHands

royal lantern
balmy condor
#

Das machst du ja krass

royal lantern
#

its my kink

oblique wasp
#

I mean, as long as it is cute and medieval like, I see german as absolute benefit to dirty talking

grim jay
balmy condor
#

It’s medieval the same way the black plague is medieval

#

You don’t want it

royal lantern
#

rat mentioned

grim jay
#

I mean even the most basic things sound stupid. Like fuck and fick, its just one letter but it sounds infinitely more cringe

oblique wasp
lucid rain
balmy condor
#

Is probably

#

The goofiest thing

#

Anyone could tell you

#

I’d actually laugh if someone yelled that to me irl

grim jay
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

Don’t remind me of that

kind forge
#

why do know so much german whisp ?

oblique wasp
royal lantern
#

he just grew up in NA

balmy condor
royal lantern
#

the tl:dr version

grim jay
kind forge
#

i see

royal lantern
balmy condor
lucid rain
balmy condor
#

Or a flirt

balmy condor
haughty flicker
oblique wasp
#

WOW I am using Knuddelbärchen in my out of wow life, its hella DPS

grim jay
#

Like Hurensohn sounds way more aggressive than son of a bitch

lucid rain
#

oh my god it actually sounds like whoreson

grim jay
lucid rain
#

I do not

royal lantern
lucid rain
#

german memes are not my forte

#

sorry

#

my stärke

balmy condor
royal lantern
kind forge
strong sleet
lucid rain
#

I need an adult, I'm being approached by german memes

oblique wasp
#

We are all you need friend

balmy condor
grim jay
balmy condor
grim jay
strange bronze
#

Does anyone use a macro to Dance/KB and is it beneficial to do so? Or will it bring issues into the rotation?

grim jay
keen spruce
#

german o'clock

strong sleet
lucid rain
#

why is the pooling practise tool stuck on telling me to use thistle tea?

balmy condor
#

In german we don’t say “oh it’s December” we say “ach du scheiße alter is ja schon der erste Advent muss mal ne Kerze zünden“

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

I’m so jörg-coded

royal lantern
#

using that one next time Kpop is spammed

lucid rain
#

fair enough

grim jay
lucid rain
#

is there a rough number you want to pool to? obviously you can't keep envenom up 100% of the time so would it be better to let it drop to reach X energy?

balmy condor
rotund oak
cobalt hemlock
lucid rain
#

interesting, so 240 energy in my case

strange bronze
#

Where is this pooling practice tool?

severe carbon
#

guys i did the mage tower 🥹

strange bronze
#

pog

lucid rain
strange bronze
#

ty

balmy condor
#

It’s mostly for like

#

When you get tier

#

You can claim that it’s wrong because you don’t want to chain since the uptime is the same

#

So you can stay above 50%

lucid rain
#

ahh so it's more of a 10.2 kinda thing

balmy condor
#

And my answer to that is didn’t ask

#

Like pooling is good to understand

#

But there’s slight differences patch to patch

#

That aren’t particularly important

devout pine
#

yo assa is so cool on m+ i did a bunch of m+ yesterday and never had this fun on the spec, sudden demise is crazy

balmy condor
#

Much easier to just go “hey this how you pool0

oblique wasp
balmy condor
#

And then dump it

lucid rain
#

last question for now, is there a minimum energy that you go into dance with?

#

on single target

balmy condor
#

No

lucid rain
#

is it because you probably have tea for every dance?

grim jay
lucid rain
#

I guess that wasn't the last question dead

balmy condor
#

But it’s more like you just… have energy

#

Idk

royal lantern
#

ambush costs less then mutilate aswell

lucid rain
#

fair enough, I just figured that it's possible to run yourself dry going into dance, but pooling solves that problem

royal lantern
#

and dance means ambush

balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

It never has

lucid rain
#

they're both 50 on my tooltips

royal lantern
#

bigtime mandela effect rn

lucid rain
#

if you played classic, ambush was less than mutilate

#

40 vs 55 I believe

balmy condor
#

Crack smokers in this channel today giving you a contact high tryan

grim jay
#

Tryan caught spreading misinformation?!

keen spruce
balmy condor
strange bronze
#

pog

balmy condor
#

One more and he gets a free coffee

royal lantern
keen spruce
#

cranky fox Tryan would have never said such a thing

lucid rain
#

(well it was 60 but you glyphed it to reduce the cost by 5)

royal lantern
#

more sleep=more bullshit

#

incredible

strange bronze
#

rogues dont sleep lmao

royal lantern
#

needs to be sleep deprived

grim jay
#

Gotta make a sleep - bullshit graph

#

To find the sweetspot

snow kindle
#

what was that fish called