#assassination

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royal lantern
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🐈

slim hamlet
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cats??

night delta
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anyhow, now that i know not to stress about sanguine uptime, i can rest easy

lean portal
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hey i have a question, when i practice with details and use vanish it keeps resetting everything, do you have any idea if you can fix this in details settings ?

slim hamlet
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scripts -> dynamic overall damage

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and reset it each time

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We can finally learn this mythical ability

runic hinge
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Can I refuse?

slim hamlet
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yes

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Just don't get rep

balmy condor
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I refuse to touch grass

slim hamlet
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no permanent augment rune for you then

somber sparrow
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oh man. Today on facebook someone tried to claim that because you can get a flight from south africa to australia that makes a stop in dubai that it's proof the earth is flat. Nevermind the fact that if you go that route it's a 21 hour flight, but if you go nonstop the normal way, it only takes almost 13 hours, which uses a curved route.

distant fox
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after another 40mins of setup i got i t fixed i guess, it was workign before got broken, now i hope it stays working lol

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can i snipe amplifying poison stacks or do i have to continue attacking the target that i mutilated to get caustic spatter?

robust axle
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Would you use Harlans over nerfed Beacon going into next week?

keen spruce
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i'm gonna use whatever happens to be on my character when i zone in

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cuz we're not getting CE in one week and it doesn't matter Dabgers

slim hamlet
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what

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you are not rwf gamer?

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n00b

balmy condor
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When did beacon even get nerfed

slim hamlet
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is beacon nerfed?

keen spruce
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it got like an 11% nerf or somethin

spice surge
balmy condor
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Idk dude said ā€œover nerfed beaconā€

spice surge
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16% iirc

balmy condor
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Oh

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Fun

slim hamlet
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I legit have 0 mythic bosses killed in 10.1 even tho I have like 200 pulls on sark

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xdd

spice surge
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They nerfed a bunch of aberrus trinkets, notably not the bomb thouigh

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For some reason

balmy condor
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I wasn’t using it anyway

slim hamlet
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idk my beacon is oneshotting these noob neutral critters

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So pretty good

keen spruce
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i haven't used bacon in months

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on sass

balmy condor
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Yeh

keen spruce
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still felt fine on sub yesterday tho

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in keys

balmy condor
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I mean it’s still stronk

slim hamlet
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you feel fine

old halo
flint tusk
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i can't wait to get rid of beacon

slim hamlet
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Yea bring back puzzlebox

keen spruce
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you can get rid of it now

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if u want

slim hamlet
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much better

keen spruce
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no

flint tusk
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not even updated it?

slim hamlet
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I still keep my puzzlebox in my bags

flint tusk
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weak

slim hamlet
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My deary

flint tusk
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that's because you're a hoarder

keen spruce
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i took great joy in deleting like 4 of those in season 1

slim hamlet
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not rly

flint tusk
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just put it in your bank you weirdo

slim hamlet
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I delete everything start of patch I know I dont need

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I barely played 10.1

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So needed it for a bit

balmy condor
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That dathea trinket still like a top 5 trinket in m+

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Incredible stuff

flint tusk
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why

slim hamlet
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Yep

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Almost bis even tho it's 33 ilvls lower than what i got

slim hamlet
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dont think about it

balmy condor
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Notters been typing a very long time

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I’m getting scared

flint tusk
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i was just thinking that xD

gaunt moat
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🐰

flint tusk
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you better be prepared for like 43 questions

slim hamlet
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aintnoway he typed 🐰 in 10 minutes

flint tusk
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maybe he used really small font?

balmy condor
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Inb4 a 6 sided single spaced pamphlet for his kb wa

velvet ridge
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so which M+ build you guys liking more, AP or DTB

slim hamlet
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Who is doing m+

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nerds

velvet ridge
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idk im practicing muscle memory

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4fun

flint tusk
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i mean i keep pressing my ambush keybind when blindside procs....

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it's annoying

slim hamlet
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But I can already say now DTB for sure

velvet ridge
slim hamlet
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I am not having fun if I do negative boss dmg

flint tusk
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it's worse as mine is Alt-2...

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but mutilate is 2

velvet ridge
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mine is my shiv keybind

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so im always accidentally shiving things

slim hamlet
willow kite
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For people experienced with sudden demise; is it working the way you'd expect on live?

slim hamlet
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no

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it is bugged

spice spire
flint tusk
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i'm trying to figure out the best place to move my shiv. as in stealth it's my spamable sap macro which obviously is a bit useless in dance

keen spruce
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@gaunt moat PES_Heart

flint tusk
willow kite
velvet ridge
flint tusk
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i might need to disable the aura that pops up xD

slim hamlet
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Notter stopped typing monkahmm

balmy condor
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@gaunt moat didn’t ask

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Shit

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Too early

slim hamlet
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huh

cerulean nest
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@gaunt moat who?

flint tusk
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yo momma

gaunt moat
slim hamlet
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"wHo ASkEd"

balmy condor
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Sorry that happened

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On god

slim hamlet
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Which one?

flint tusk
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You've blueballed Notter Whispyr i hope you're ready for the backlash

static glacier
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I'd hit it if i could keep my eyes open for 700 renown more of seed farm

slim hamlet
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They just hotfix nerfed seed farming

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xddddd

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They think this will stop degenning

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it will just make it more degen

spice spire
high berry
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Is there a recommendation on what to use for first spark of dream on?

slim hamlet
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why does that exist

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please delete

simple ore
slim hamlet
high berry
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Thank you

slim hamlet
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The toxic ones

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ofc

cerulean nest
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yo guys seeds nerfed

distant fox
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i never was that good with my sin but good damn they havent found a way to juggle more stuff in aoe huh?

slim hamlet
crisp pine
distant fox
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bleeds, bleeds, bleeds, caustic, kingsbane,

slim hamlet
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Wish I could pen every mob

distant fox
gaunt moat
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I gotta say, I was very skeptical (respectfully) towards the direction assassination was going this patch.
It even made me lose so interest in it.
But After playing around with it today on Sarkarath, I feel like some of my worries were misjudged, and some still hold.

  • Complexity: It is less complex than initially thought, especially with some tools we've developed (Like Lisonna's KB bar). But it's still incredibly easy to mess up horribly.
  • Experience: It feels really satisfying to pull off a huge KB worth millions of damage.
  • Flow: I was worried about downtime, but with a 1m CD, it feels like we're at "GO GO GO!" all the time. there's not a long period we are energy starved.
  • Acrobatic Strikes: It's a struggle. On Sarkarath playing without it was a real pain. Very conflicted about this talent not being accessible for the best damage build.
  • Slice and Dice: Should be removed. completely irrelevant ability.

How does it Compare to the previous build with Sepsis?
I would say an improvement.
Sepsis was a mess of delaying and aligning your abilities, and for every fight you'd have to rethink them if there was something slightly off.
Current KB build is a lot more straightforward in that regard, and that's a good thing.

distant fox
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lol

balmy condor
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Didn’t ask

gaunt moat
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you did it

slim hamlet
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I am happy for you or sorry it happened

velvet ridge
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!kb

slim hamlet
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!dm

velvet ridge
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wheres that kb wa

spice spire
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You know what

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I asked

slim hamlet
glossy imp
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acro gang gang

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rise up

gaunt moat
drifting cosmos
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prayge snd removal

slim hamlet
distant fox
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i dropped it for raid but no way i play m+ without +3m fck your swirlie lol

glossy imp
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based and true

slim hamlet
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90% sure I go AS in m+ too

glossy imp
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i feel like I can manage in raid but jesus christ I need it in m+

slim hamlet
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Only reason I wouldn't was for muscle memory of ranges for raid

cerulean nest
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no acro is awesome and tight wdym I love standing in the mathematical center of the giant dragons hitbox to do damage it's neat

glossy imp
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I got a range indictor for that @slim hamlet KEKW

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I kept standing too far

slim hamlet
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Only issue is kick range

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Give longer kick like shaman or dk and there is legit no problem

velvet ridge
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extendo leg

slim hamlet
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Hey

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We had long arms

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Time for long legs

velvet ridge
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leg on a stick

flint tusk
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KB WA request

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give a custom option for it to post in all caps in raid/say and yell how much damage you did

slim hamlet
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Classic /yell weakauras

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my favourite

flint tusk
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exactly xD

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had a DK use one and his dam was so bad with PI it was laughable

velvet ridge
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whats the KB highscore wa

slim hamlet
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Imagine fucking up the really fuckupable opener

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and still yelling 100KDMG 100KDMG 100KDMG

keen spruce
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i wish i could find impy's old inevitable demise WA from legion. that got a peepo more and more excited the more stacks it got

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could make somethin for KB maybe HMM

dark shoal
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What to drop for getting AS back 😦

eternal heath
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Your pants

dark shoal
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Did that alrdy

slim hamlet
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Pic or it didnt happen

distant fox
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i think i track less stuff on my disc lol

slim hamlet
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But there are different builds on wowhead

flint tusk
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Track is a strong word

slim hamlet
distant fox
slim hamlet
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Yea

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there is quite a lot

distant fox
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oh i see i have to edit some stuff again.. the glow shouldnt be there atm

slim hamlet
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Can make stuff u don't need not show if it's not up

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Easier for brain

crisp pine
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Why? Envenom not special enough to glow all the time? smh

thorny onyx
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Is macroing KB with Dance a bad idea? or is it even possible?

slim hamlet
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u can

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just type dance first and then kb

distant fox
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i dont like if bars jump around - envenom is set up for st and glows when dropping below 1.2s

thorny onyx
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I mean if we always use them together its like sub used Cold blood + Secret tech

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Ok

slim hamlet
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Yea

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In m+ you might wanna not do it

thorny onyx
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how come?

slim hamlet
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but seems insanely rare

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Only scenario I can see is if you badly need to silence mobs

thorny onyx
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right

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So u think it will be pretty common to macro them together

slim hamlet
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I will prob have my Dance bind and then a bind for KB where it is in

nimble tartan
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before

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and everyone did it nobody felt bad

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idk if its that close for sin

strange python
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Trying to make Pyke from League as a sin rogue. Thoughts on where I can get a dagger like his?

slim hamlet
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2.5% for sin

strange python
slim hamlet
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afaik

slim hamlet
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that kinda looks alike

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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Think it's random quest or world drop I am thinking off

strange python
balmy condor
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that's kinda their thing

charred mango
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does anyone have a link to the kingsbane weakaura?

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also Whisper, the wagio link on the weakaura's page in the wowhead guide links to a wagio search of shadowlands subtlety weakauras

balmy condor
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weird

gaunt moat
nimble tartan
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it might dissipate for you if u never been in this situation, but it did for like every good otl cause u top with or without acro and it helps you play comfy

gaunt moat
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But that's not even the real issue.
I'm in hte opinion that acrobatic strikes should be accessible, regardless of build, because it fun.

slim hamlet
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Feel like there are actually a decent amount of fights where u get enough extra gcd's with AS that it's actually worth

strange python
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So how does everyone like the rework? Happy, meh, sad?

slim hamlet
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idk only been killing neutral mobs all day

distant fox
slim hamlet
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fuck the dream animals we randomly kill for no reason

gaunt moat
crisp pine
slim hamlet
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burst of speed?

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wtf is that

balmy condor
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a wod ability

balmy condor
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sprint with no cooldown

strange python
crisp pine
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It was sprint
4 sec duration 3 sec cooldown

distant fox
distant fox
gaunt moat
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@balmy condor is there a boss suggested talents on the wowhead guide?

balmy condor
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not until next week

hollow helm
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!spreadsheet

prisma monolithBOT
flint tusk
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Well people can’t say the assa faq isn’t updated now

rustic minnow
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Sin sims lower then my sub set atm but didn't someone say PI on sin adds a lot of damage?

slim hamlet
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smh outlaw had a gif and sub an illustration

rustic minnow
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Oh shit, just under unholy

flint tusk
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With a broken sim

rustic minnow
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So the nerfs to pi and unholy still puts it on top of the pi list

charred mango
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I just topgear simmed all 3 specs and Assa is by far my lowest, but I think its cause I have literally 0 haste

slim hamlet
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Yea unholy gets a shit ton with first PI

flint tusk
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I’m expecting assa to go to the top spot when 2 set is fixed

slim hamlet
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Probably just strictly better when sin gets bugs fixed

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Yea

rustic minnow
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Sin has bugs too? So does sub. What are the bugs atm with sin?

slim hamlet
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wasn't every sub bug fixed?

flint tusk
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When 2 set hits max stacks it forgets it’s counter then times out

slim hamlet
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2pc randomly resets and lethal dose doesn't work as it should

flint tusk
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Instead of decaying like it should

strange python
nimble tartan
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dks are playing frost

spice surge
slim hamlet
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oof

spice surge
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Replicating still wonky but it is what it is

slim hamlet
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is that the 2pc?

spice surge
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Na

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Just a talent

flint tusk
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Their 2nd target IC

slim hamlet
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Can't remember any sub names

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oof

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oh yea

spice surge
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The spread isnt wonky, its the damage of it

slim hamlet
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did it ever get smart targeting?

spice surge
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Yes

slim hamlet
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pog

spice surge
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Also wtf when fuu changed roles ive ended up with an er role

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Gotta fix that, this shit aint it

slim hamlet
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I got half ER too

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wack af

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Give me KiR only

flint tusk
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Fuu just casually breaking stuff

rotund crescent
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In AoE, whats the conditions for using Fan of Knives vs Caustic Splatter?

slim hamlet
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always apply caustic

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use FoK at 3+

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but still apply caustic

rotund crescent
nimble tartan
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wth is caustic splatter omfg

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we got some new abilities

slim hamlet
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our main aoe talent

runic hinge
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Imagine not being Slice and Dice role

rotund crescent
# nimble tartan wth is caustic splatter omfg

weird to quick explain. but basically when your mutilate applies a debuff to a target and whenever you use a ST ability on it, it splashes the poison dmg to nearby targets for a percentage

slim hamlet
rotund crescent
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thats the VERY basic of it

runic hinge
nimble tartan
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that sounds cool!!

rotund crescent
exotic pulsar
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
distant fox
balmy condor
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My keybinds have a bunch of holes in them now

slim hamlet
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I refuse to remove exsang and IC

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I dont care

strange python
distant fox
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my rogue got 1 spot unfilled from my 24 bar BUT its because i still have 1 with shift rather then pressing THAT button. got nothing that would fit my layout well
buttons aint the issue but plate spinning, im a simple man that loves to suffer, masodisc, being feral in sl in general or now assa.
maybe its time to try bdsm? not sure though...

rotund crescent
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i just click my buttons šŸ˜Ž šŸ·

slim hamlet
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I got 45 keybinds

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I wonder why my hand hurts

distant fox
slim hamlet
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Well 2 of them are fake now

distant fox
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keyboards have so many keys?

slim hamlet
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IC and exsang

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yea

distant fox
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waht are you doing when playing dh? i mean you cant fill 24 with 2 mounts and a pot on top xD

slim hamlet
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I don't play it for the one fact that I will have holes in my bars

thorny onyx
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I have big trouble trying to fit in envenom + 2nd shiv in kingsbane window.... How much of help is couple % haste? atm im just sitting chilling in my sub gear with literally 0% haste, I know assa secondaries doesnt matter but I feel like I cant fit all spells in the rotation, how much haste do you have? if also 0% as me please help me... XD

slim hamlet
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Same with fury warrior

slim hamlet
thorny onyx
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ah fk

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then im just terrible

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Got it šŸ˜„

slim hamlet
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There should be no problem

distant fox
slim hamlet
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U just KB, bleeds and spam mut+envenom in kb

twin kite
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We really need those bugs fixed asap. Hoping they are fast on these

slim hamlet
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Surely next reset copium

distant fox
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would it be better to clip 1-2s of shiv or lose 1 sec uptime or overcap? i mean sometimes its just... bad how it goes

slim hamlet
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u are asking if you would rather use shiv and lose shiv uptime to save cp wastage?

distant fox
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yeah in kingsbane window. or lose shiv for a sec to envenom first or just think fuck that i overcap

thorny onyx
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maybe I should just send envenom on 3cp

slim hamlet
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Shouldn't need to lose any of it

thorny onyx
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if that makes it so I can get shiv in

slim hamlet
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But don't be afraid of losing a few cp to use shiv

distant fox
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okay go that route if i get stuc kin that trinity of bad. well guys i go to sleep, been a long day and havent sleept much that week xD
have fun, dont melt down and send me some epic loot xD

slim hamlet
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Worst thing you could do is use Shiv 2 sec early and not get it on last kb tick

distant fox
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shouldnt happen unless i brian fart.. funcact on my mmo mouse i press 4521 to pop all my cds (like in whispyrs rotation guide) its literally a rotation xD

thorny onyx
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On wowhead rotation guide I cant see any tea in opener, I guess we ONLY use it for energy starvation? šŸ˜„

slim hamlet
distant fox
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@thorny onyx he got some videos on youtube where he explains stuff - i can really recommend them

storm forum
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
inner yoke
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does deathmark copy anything else or only the passive poisons and the 2 explicitly mentioned bleed skills? (e.g. does it copy any of the active poison skills)

slim hamlet
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Active poison skills?

inner yoke
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e.g. kingsbane

slim hamlet
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oh yea no

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Only the poisons you apply out of combat + rupture and garrote

inner yoke
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thanks

balmy condor
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I’d be okay with it duplicating kingsbane

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That seems reasonable and fine to me

slim hamlet
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Yea

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As compensation for bugs

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Should duplicate shiv too honestly

rotund crescent
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i 2nd this

polar bridge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
chrome sable
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How's sin doing in keys compared to outlaw?

royal lantern
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key are not even a thing for 6more days mate lol

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and dungeon meta always takes a longer time to establish

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just to get destroyed 2weeks later by some nerfs/buffs

balmy condor
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The real question is now that sanguine doesn’t stack, are people going to still try to rat into wound poison

royal lantern
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ofc

woven frost
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Sin keys feel pretty good. Multi-target is a lot smoother. I find I'm having a little bit of energy issues on a ST boss, but that's very likely a me issue and still learning

jade wadi
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are ya'll waiting till next week to craft, or upgrading those boots right away?

balmy condor
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I’m waiting

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Need to get crests anyway

dark token
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šŸ‘

jade wadi
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ah, kk. I'm a LW so I'll be making it myself so I wasn't sure what I wanted to do lol.

lucid rain
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I haven't kept up with sin at all - how is aoe feeling? flows well?

teal iris
strange python
slim hamlet
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2pc and lethal dose

burnt venture
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
celest helm
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what is the benefit of buffing KB at the last 6 seconds, what makes those 6 seconds important

slim hamlet
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Kb ramps

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Read the tooltip it will make sense

burnt venture
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Does it seem like we rarely get to CT in AOE?

slim hamlet
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No

burnt venture
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I think I may be worrying too much about Spatter

celest helm
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spatter lasts a decent amount of time

slim hamlet
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You want CT up always in aoe outside kb opener

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It's our biggest aoe dmg

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Unless you running out of energy

dark token
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i would put CT up before KB opener no?

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let it tick the whole time u keep up envenom

slim hamlet
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Having kb on cd without using it tho

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Ew

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Also u will often use dance first thing to get bleeds out too, so you're using KB with that

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When u can't restealth

lucid rain
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on pulls with a lot of targets, are you recasting bleeds a lot?

strange python
slim hamlet
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Ye

lucid rain
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ty

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I'm learning sin aoe and it didn't feel like I had much time to take advantage of spatter if I didn't get to use IC from dance

dark token
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I mean you don't really

slim hamlet
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Depends on key level

dark token
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It's almost all ur globals to keep up 5 rupture CT and spatter

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If ur not using any IC

lucid rain
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do you cast garrote on cooldown assuming you get full pandemic?

vale mortar
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Guys what is IC and CT?

lucid rain
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pretend the target lives for a long time

lyric crater
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i take it sepsis is dead now with king bane back in the folded

celest helm
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thank god

slate crown
vale mortar
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Thanks

dapper otter
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its so sad that ass ass is performing so much lower than outlaw this season

slate crown
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"This season"

royal lantern
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the season didnt even start

slate crown
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I'm sensing a sample size problem here.

royal lantern
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jesus christ

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bunch of psychics here

dapper otter
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big brain

royal lantern
dapper otter
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he smells what im thinking

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cba to learn ass ass the last seasons, wanna play it now, but outlaw's most likely going to be the meta this season so

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unless they buff sub again and the pulls in dungeons are gonna exceed 8 targets

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then its sub season again baby

royal lantern
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how do all these people know whats gonna be meta

lucid rain
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so to open on 5 targets, would I go like:
garrote -> garrote -> ct -> fok to 5/6 -> rupture -> fok to 5/6 -> rupture -> ?

royal lantern
dapper otter
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its called experience broski

shy pecan
royal lantern
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just say you looked at wowlogs weekly ranking during ptr and form your "opinion" on that

vague lion
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you forgot spatter uptime and envemon for bombs

dark token
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People saying assa sucks when it's topping every boss

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
bronze pike
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for buffa

dapper otter
bronze pike
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daily reminder

dark token
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I would garrote garrote snd fok rupture fok rupture fok CT mut envenom then deathmark dance ST opener

bronze pike
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never trust range when they say "theyre down bad"

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imtotallynot pushinganagendawithoutofcontextscreenshots

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:)

thorn lynx
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
polar gorge
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so guys, i have a question, whispyr's sim is around 252k, but other people's sim with exact talent and items are around 232k. Wondering whats different between those sims.

dark token
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His is old

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Be4 bug

polar gorge
storm forum
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Dose and 2p bugged

dark token
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Tier set stacks don't behavior correctly, not sure what is up with dose tho

storm forum
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Dose has some effects not contribute to +% but are affected by the +%, and some are the opposite, they contribute but are not amplified

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i dont remember which ones

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sepsis and the 6 second DoT choice noded with spatter are among the bugged iirc

inner yoke
#

will using rupture shortly before a mob dies result in an energy gain?

storm forum
#

i think so

keen spruce
storm forum
#

but i dont know if its worth the CP loss

keen spruce
#

@storm forum

balmy condor
storm forum
#

oh it was bone spike, not spesis

#

ty

dark token
#

Ok that's not that bad

#

LD bug seems minor

#

Tier set seems big tho

balmy condor
#

Bout 1%

#

Tier set is around 5-6%

polar gorge
storm forum
#

in PTR time thats like 10 million years ago

polar gorge
#

yeah xD

drifting cloud
#

252 also had benefical bug iirc

balmy condor
#

Ain’t no way the 252 sim was 10 days ago

#

But yeah

#

Ptr sims

#

To quote Fardadr
ā€œyeah xDā€

nimble tartan
#

dont laugh at me which poisons do i put on

#

cause i keep puttin on some and they take away others i couldnt find it in the guide omg...

balmy condor
drifting cloud
#

omr beyond washed

#

too much real life

nimble tartan
#

im not afraid to not know for that is how i can truly learn and ascend

brittle basin
#

be brave and run wound/instant

drifting cloud
#

do you still get discord dms for the username

nimble tartan
#

yes i do

brittle basin
#

wtyf, they swapped the cto flair with killing spree

#

cirnge

nimble tartan
woven frost
#

on purpose?

slim hamlet
nimble tartan
storm forum
nimble tartan
#

thank you!!!

#

i was stunlocked now im back

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
#

Hi Back I'm Dad

nimble tartan
#

dam bro i tried to install some weakauras now my /wa is broken

slate crown
#

Did you update your addons?

#

Specifically weakauras?

chilly viper
#

Those are some juicy crits with KB

nimble tartan
#

i didnt

slate crown
#

That's why

nimble tartan
#

let me updoot em

slate crown
#

Not just a general thing (though, you should do that generally with a new patch)

#

New WA versions specifically changed their data structure a bit which causes new auras to break old weakauras

#

The entire addon gets bricked

nimble tartan
#

i see

lyric silo
#

why is sin currently simming the lowest with no new tier but pumping the hardest in raid? lol

keen spruce
#

cuz we're built diff

haughty flicker
#

because sims do not equal actual gameplay

spice surge
#

Also pi

haughty flicker
#

and you're probably looking at the full bis sims

#

which we are kind of not close to atm

lyric silo
#

well im looking at current sims between myself and a few other rogues all have assa simming close to 7-8k lower lol

haughty flicker
spice surge
#

And also theres like 20 raid logs of every spec, like no simple size at all

lyric silo
#

makes sense was just curious seemed like it was dominating

native meteor
#

hows ass in pvp for 10.2

nimble tartan
#

@balmy condor u have won the pageant i will be using ur weakauras

haughty flicker
#

i would put 0 faith in any type of logs and such you see this week

runic hinge
native meteor
#

oh ty

rose adder
#

what ilvl are you guys getting 410k crit kbs

nimble tartan
#

omfg u dont need 2 binds for ambush anymore wowww

#

blizz cookin

mossy hazel
#

!blindside

prisma monolithBOT
#

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
This should be seen as a "lazy" option, and is not recommended. It can be hard to control and requires a third-party macro addon to expand the games base functionality. We recommend ALWAYS keybinding ambush (either with a modifier, or an entirely different key)
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

haughty flicker
#

this should probably be deleted

nimble tartan
#

thats an old warning now isnt it

haughty flicker
#

lmao

mossy hazel
#

I was going to say, i just came back and it doesn't seem like that's needed? Lol

storm forum
#

BiS for swapping to OL

#

when ur OL statweights say its enough

burnt venture
#

Holy lads

#

Sin feels so good to play now

#

other than learning how to pool energy better, I'm super optimistic

rustic minnow
#

so is this the odea to stay above 150 energy for sanguine blades?

teal iris
#

how is sin st looking in m+ build now btw? do you still give up a lot? haven't really been following the rework

keen spruce
#

the wowhead guide covers it

#

and i don't wanna type a big paragraph

slate crown
rustic minnow
#

ok sweet, ill read through wowhead, i love passive damage

balmy condor
past bobcat
#

Ass rogue is bugged rn right?

balmy condor
#

Yesn’t

#

the new 2 piece tier has a big bug

#

But we obviously don’t have that

#

So RIGHT NOW

#

No bug

haughty flicker
#

huge

#

feels nice to be bug free

keen spruce
#

still LD bug dracthyr_sip

runic hinge
#

LD DN

keen spruce
#

@haughty flicker has small bugs ew

haughty flicker
#

didnt you watch a bugs life

#

its not the size of the bug that matters

rustic minnow
#

save both shivs for SD/KB cds

#

?

storm forum
#

yeah

#

unless youre saving SD/KB for something

rustic minnow
#

makes sense, rotation seems pretty straight forward compared to last tier

tawdry flare
#

did they revert the Ambush change (Mutilate changing to Ambush on procs)..? My apologies if someone has asked this recently.

haughty flicker
#

it only changes on blindside procs

#

you need ambush on your stealth bar still for shadow dance and such

burnt venture
#

Should we macro SD+KB?

tawdry flare
storm forum
#

I am not macroing SD+KB for M+/freestyle considerations, but I do have them on the same button (SD unstealthed, KB stealthed) to make it easy to double tap. Some people are macroing them and im sure its fine

blazing totem
#

does splatter also work with KB "poison"?

burnt venture
haughty flicker
#

you might want to use sd for ic in m+ i'd assume

shy pecan
#

Yeah, that's my assumption, since you're chaining

burnt venture
#

Yeah fair I guess

#

If you don’t have time to restealth which unfortch happens quite a bit esp in pugs

lucid rain
#

crimson tempest kinda fucks, god damn

keen spruce
#

been waitin like 36 hours for that one to come up again

burnt venture
#

I got your back

#

šŸ˜†

keen spruce
#

well for ST at least. i knew it's probably not advised in m+

burnt venture
#

Yeah

keen spruce
#

but i don't think i'm playin assas in keys, my brain too smol

grim tangle
#

I'm playing it in keys to make it look bad so we get buffed

burnt venture
#

I played it in a key and had to swap back to outlaw cuz I was slappin

#

Don’t want blizz seeing too big of number and getting all flustered

gilded oasis
#

Im not doing keys, too busy growing flowers PepegaClown

ebon heath
#

Is sub still good on keys?

burnt venture
#

Ask sub channel

#

Not sure. I think all specs in good spot overall.

keen spruce
#

all of them goodge

lucid rain
#

ayy, my name color matches the kb icon color

keen spruce
#

seeds goin sicko mode

#

get your rep before they fix

balmy condor
#

Seems soft capped

keen spruce
#

lame

balmy condor
#

But who knows

keen spruce
#

might as well get it while the gettin is good

gusty mirage
#

and then get hardstuck at 5 per seed

#

lmao

keen spruce
#

damn

gusty mirage
#

if the 5 rep sticks

#

seed farming for renown is deadge

keen spruce
#

well this is my 4th one we'll see if i get owned

gusty mirage
#

I think I'm gucci

keen spruce
#

i'm not gonna degen grind anything but if the price is right imma get what i can ApuShrug

slate crown
#

I'm at 6 renown on my rogue now, having spent a token yet

#

still working through side stuff and campaign, holding everything for next thursday

#

(Alt already got to 10)

keen spruce
#

yeah f

#

o well

slate crown
storm forum
#

shmeeps you could be getting 10% more exp

keen spruce
#

yeah i'm lazy

little moth
#

did they ever make ambush apply caustic cause if not thats annoying since i want to shadowdance with kingsbane

keen spruce
#

i'm not leavin my garden

storm forum
#

fair

keen spruce
little moth
#

ok few

#

my weakaura i downloaded doesnt track caustic i use afners

gusty mirage
#

IT ADDS UP

keen spruce
#

adds up to me jumpin in the ocean

gusty mirage
#

can we jump together?

shy pecan
#

No

gusty mirage
shy pecan
gilded oasis
#

again again

chilly viper
#

Energy regeneration in m+ is low af 😬

spice spire
#

You changed

shy pecan
#

You did this to me >:3

spice spire
#

What did I do smoge

shy pecan
#

CALL ME A FRAUD FOR BEING #1 BOOTS FAN

green harbor
shy pecan
#

It's okay, I calm down a bit. Lakers lost to Houston, so we're better

spice spire
#

I could never take that away from @slow needle like that

shy pecan
keen spruce
runic hinge
bronze pike
#

there is nothing to fix in sin anymore :( so i retire

spice spire
#

Ok

#

Bless up

#

I’m also retired unluigi

gusty mirage
bronze pike
#

i know your the most disappointed

#

i will miss you too oxi <3

gusty mirage
#

pls come visit us often and troll quake

#

like the good old days

#

🄲

bronze pike
#

:,)

#

perhaps long into the future, the net ptr cycle

balmy condor
#

Maybe we’re finally free from the cooking

gusty mirage
#

@spice spire 42 degrees, light rain, light breeze. Name a better sleeping environment

bronze pike
#

this emerald randomizer nuzlock kileld my lobre :(

opal helm
#

Any weak aura for KB and envom tier buff, like a duration timer

keen spruce
balmy condor
bronze pike
#

30 degrees no heat

gusty mirage
bronze pike
#

just blankets

#

cozy

opal helm
balmy condor
#

Oh

#

That’s not the tier buff

#

That’s just envenom

#

There’s plenty of things that track encenom

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
opal helm
#

Ahhh thanks i was mispoken wowhead had the tier set linked with the envenom tip.

balmy condor
#

Yeh the tier makes it more important

#

But that gameplay exists with or without the tier

#

That’s just basic pooling rules

ebon lichen
#

Just want to clarify and ensure this isnt a typo, in the bis list for sin rogue on wowhead, the timestrike daggers are better than the raid dagger with the on use?

balmy condor
#

Yes

#

The on use does nothing

#

!dagger

balmy condor
#

You can read it if you’d like

digital yoke
#

lets not talk about the tier until it gets fixed please it makes me sadge feelscryman

balmy condor
#

But tldr is nothing

ebon lichen
balmy condor
#

Yeah you’d think so

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

But nah

gusty mirage
#

Omw

balmy condor
#

Just some flavor trash

gilded oasis
#

thats my nickname

gusty mirage
gilded oasis
#

I have several

gusty mirage
fallen charm
#

anyone done the math yet on if we should swap the previous tier set for higher ilv or wait for new tier set

balmy condor
#

Wdym

#

Like just going raw 2piece?

#

And dropping the 4 piece?

#

Or going 2+2

fallen charm
#

like droping the 447 tier set for like a 460 non tier set

keen spruce
#

i think more asking about like 3+0

balmy condor
#

Oh yeah fuck no

#

Never do that

#

Giga trolling

drifting cloud
#

13 ilvl kekman

balmy condor
#

Unless you can find like a 550 item level piece to replace it

#

It’s not even a thought that should cross your mind

fallen charm
#

got it thanks

rustic minnow
#

pre raid, whats better, slimy expulsion or the thorn boots?

runic hinge
#

Thorn

balmy condor
#

Post raid thorn is also better for the record

#

Slimy is worse everywhere always forever

gilded oasis
#

😦

balmy condor
#

If I see any of you with slimy it’s a peepostab on sight

snow kindle
#

when are we using thistle if pooling

#

anytime lower than 50%?

spice spire
rustic minnow
#

im swapping to sin atm so still got my sub boots on

#

weapon first craft or thorn boots?

spice spire
#

We farming for timestrike dagger

shy pecan
gilded oasis
outer cairn
#

did a 19. haven't really practiced the new kit in aoe, but started to get the hang of it. definitely some plate spinning for sure and then st on bosses seemed a bit off. felt a bit starved at times and hard to keep envenom up. gotta practice more

#

def had some pulls where i was up to 400k

abstract jacinth
little moth
#

anyone have a caustic spatter WA

abstract jacinth
#

Don't see any passive on it or anything

shy pecan
#

There's a Timestrike passive

spice spire
#

Cantrip effects turn out to be good

#

On top of normal weapons

#

And timestrike is funky (this is relying on the fact that it still works as it originally did)

slate crown
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
spice spire
#

Is that the LE?

slate crown
spice spire
runic hinge
gilded oasis
spice spire
#

Zar I’m alliance

#

Wtf

runic hinge
#

Same

gilded oasis
#

explains a lot

runic hinge
#

Wow. Rude mcrudeyface today for sure

gilded oasis
spice spire
#

Elitist jerks indeed

gilded oasis
#

ive never changed a day in my life

spice spire
#

?????

abstract jacinth
spice spire
#

Bro how do those clothes still fit

gilded oasis
#

magic

spice spire
abstract jacinth
#

oh hey.. I am blind! also I have no idea what that does lol

gilded oasis
#

it strikes time

abstract jacinth
#

that I can google though

spice spire
#

From what I recollect when it procs it duplicates past damage done

#

The fucky bit was it proccing from beacon

abstract jacinth
#

That sounds insane lol, and yeah reading it now

balmy condor
spice spire
keen spruce
#

it throws a little gravel at them occasionally

haughty flicker
#

its just cursed multistrike

spice spire
#

Essentially

deft vault
#

has anyone killed raszageth last breath rare?

haughty flicker
#

i didnt understand at first

#

then i realized

eternal heath
#

idk why but it being gura makes that funnier

haughty flicker
#

wod is old

#

wtf

balmy condor
pallid bough
#

hey guys, whats the line to sim PI in advanced?

#

wanted to sim the sin sims with PI

balmy condor
#

The checkbox in the settings

pallid bough
#

o

#

epic ty sir

balmy condor
#

Np

young flicker
keen spruce
#

same man

shy pecan
sour kernel
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
candid geyser
#

!notter

balmy condor
#

Real

candid geyser
#

šŸ˜„

balmy condor
#

!shakira

nimble tartan
#

i hab question

shy pecan
#

You hab answer

nimble tartan
#

i dont have toxic boots i raid tomorrow can i still craft the lower level ones with some spare shadowflame sparks or naur

young flicker
kindred rapids
#

rogue good

storm forum
#

i dont think anyone has new ilvl boots yet

#

so yeah, feel free to use old sparks for it to hold you over until you get enough crests for it

nimble tartan
#

yeah i just mean cause u cant make trhe old enchanted aspect stuff

#

but i canmake like the old max ilevel thorn boots?

storm forum
#

oh, idk

#

I forgot that old crests got grey'd

storm forum
#

probably can

ruby stirrup
#

is this legit sim for assa?

shy pecan
serene fossil
prisma monolithBOT
serene fossil
#

Go here

storm forum
#

did fuu put PI sims there?

pallid bough
storm forum
#

man, I was interested in the SPriest timings and its incomplete :<

pallid bough
nimble tartan
#

omgg outlaw ahead 13k what the HECK

storm forum
#

just get PI :^)

#

get that 13k back

eternal nymph
#

Were lethal dose and the 2p fixed today per chance?
Bit hopeful here, that would be quick

nimble tartan
#

but thats takin away 10k from someone else...

#

i been trolled...

#

goodbye sin

storm forum
#

im pretty sure thats not how that works

#

if youre taking away 10k to get 13k, thats over all more raid damage and thats good right?

nimble tartan
#

no see if i go outlaw

#

someone else gets pi

storm forum
#

oh i see

#

I guess UDKs should all go frost

#

so that PI can go to someone else too

drifting cloud
#

:?

prisma cypress
#

on a scale of 1-10 how back is assassination

nimble tartan
#

if frost is simmin higher maybe!

storm forum
#

Without PI, FrostDK is 15k ahead of Unholy, and Unholy only gets +13k from PI

nimble tartan
#

both dks in my guild said they will likely be playin frost for this tier

rustic minnow
#

currently having this same convo with our resident unholy, he said he might go frost

nimble tartan
#

think thats the general consensus for em for this tier

storm forum
#

well, I'm not swapping to OL, I don't have the zoomer hands to play it

nimble tartan
#

both specs are fine anyways

#

im just more speakin outloud for myself

storm forum
#

im sure OL gets nerfed anyways

warm urchin
#

you guys think its worth tracking poisons on nameplates? Not like it needs to be maintained since it automatically kind of does, and now with shiv, DM, caustic, etc it gets kind of cluttered

storm forum
#

I like tracking damage poisons for cleave situations

#

depending on the tier, we don't always fan on 2-3 targets

#

so it's nice to know when I gotta reapply to off targets

#

crippling definitely doesnt need to be tracked, if they start sprinting you know it fell off lol

#

maybe you wanna track atrophic/numbing, but idk, probably doenst matter

#

I track it

#

but I don't think its been useful to me

warm urchin
#

tru, yeah i only tracking amp and deadly but man the amount of debuffs during burst is insane lol

storm forum
#

Notter's WA is really nice for KB/shiv tracking this tier

raw raft
#

my guild announced a 4th raid day and is calling it optional it's joever, i was so excited to play the rogue rework but aint no way i'm raiding 4 days

#

but also aint no way i'm gonna go find a new guild cause i cba

storm forum
#

is it like an alt night thing?

keen spruce
#

for the whole tier?

#

or just the first few weeks?

raw raft
drifting cloud
keen spruce
#

oh i mean we do that, it's not that bad

#

and it actually is optional

raw raft
#

but US 300 wanting me to raid 4 nights? no ty

keen spruce
#

and we never do mythic on those nights

balmy condor
#

Community spreadsheets are all clownshoes

raw raft
storm forum
#

yeah my guild is 2 nights, but we're kind of 3 cause we have alt night

remote oak
#

Is there a big difference between the rage phial and the vers phial

storm forum
#

and like a quarter of the team doesnt show up

raw raft
#

they always hit you with the "it's not required but it's HIGHLY recommended"

cunning frost
#

so what should i be crafting for my gear?

eternal nymph
#

It's okay if everyone knows what they're signing up for obviously

#

But sometimes it's sneaky

storm forum
#

during my guild's optional night, our GM literally just plays OW instead most of the time

raw raft
storm forum
#

Feels good being a chill 2 night guild

keen spruce
raw raft
keen spruce
#

then as soon as we're in mythic we'll do like heroic clearn one night, mythic the next

#

then cut heroic

#

lasts a few weeks

storm forum
#

i mean, I say alt raid cause it turns into alt raid. We usually do mains the first few weeks, but a difficulty lower

keen spruce
#

nocs if you don't show up for the mid week stuff as long as your gear is keeping up

storm forum
#

yeah same shmeeps

raw raft
#

i just lose my raid spot because they bring whoever showed up on sunday it's joever

keen spruce
#

meh just leave then shrugFreg

#

fk em

storm forum
#

if they do that

keen spruce
storm forum
#

yeah just leave

raw raft
#

new cod comes out tomorrow maybe i just uninstall

keen spruce
#

well aside from the cod part

raw raft
#

kekw

storm forum
#

i would rather just casual no mythic wow

keen spruce
#

most based course of action

storm forum
#

than play cod

drifting cloud
#

I mean how many people are in your guild

raw raft
#

nah i tried to play casual in Sepaulcher i can't do it

drifting cloud
#

if they announce it out of the blue maybe you wont have enough for mythic

raw raft
#

i either have to play mythic raid or not play

storm forum
#

rip

raw raft
keen spruce
#

i'd just go be a key doer

#

full time

#

if i quit mythic

#

but i think i'd get very bored of the game

#

if i did that

raw raft
#

lfg perma tho idk bout dat

runic hinge
#

Sometimes I wish my schedule would let me mythic raid. Casual af but my guild is nice people

raw raft
#

i will think on this decision i suppose

keen spruce
#

i mean at least wait until something cringe happens shrugFreg

#

if it's actually optional then who cares

storm forum
#

I wish i could get tony in my guild

#

I would PI tony

runic hinge
storm forum
#

is it weird that I got more worried after whispyr stopped typing?

keen spruce
storm forum
raw raft
#

like bro ain't a single way i'm doing all that

runic hinge
keen spruce
#

i don't think that

#

many guilds are requiring a renown 18 grind in one week

cunning needle
# raw raft here's why i think it's not optional, they said "make sure you're doing your far...

THIS IS A REMINDER TO ALL RAIDERS, READ CLOSELY

IF WE SEE ANYONE NOT ONLINE DURING 10.2, WE WILL TAKE THAT AS YOUR RESIGNATION TO THE GUILD. YOU ARE HERE TO PLAY NEW CONTENT AND WE EXPECT 3 MAX LEVEL CHARACTERS BEFORE WEEK 1 IS OVER, WE WILL NOT TOLERATE OUR RAIDERS STARTING LATE WITH THE REST OF THE POORS. WE WILL ALSO ASSUME THAT IF YOU DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN REP FARMING FOR AUGMENT RUNES THAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO QUIT AND WILL BE SWIFTLY REMOVED, THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS INVOLVING THIS CAN BE BROUGHT TO AN OFFICER BUT AGAIN, WE WILL ASSUME YOU WILL BE LEAVING US IF YOU DO RAISE ANY ISSUES OR ARE ABSENT AND WILL BE REMOVED, SO TREAD CAREFULLY, THANK YOU!

storm forum
#

????

#

im so glad my guild is chill

drifting cloud
#

10.2 edit doesnt work

#

no preorder!

twilit hollow
#

that edit blows lmfao

balmy condor
#

Looking over this for a couple seconds the sims seem okay but I don’t entirely understand why this is a sheet that has to exist. It’s just bloodmallet but formatted like a classic-era sheet

cunning needle
#

yeah they left in the preorder bit lol

oak sky
#

11.0 inc

balmy condor
#

Seems

#

Kinda giga pointless

#

But the numbers look close enough

#

So idk

#

If it makes you happy go for it I guess

#

Just realize that if he doesn’t manually update it

#

It’s fucked

light knoll
#

the sheet has equip sporecloak

drifting cloud
#

is sub windfury actually that giga now

storm forum
#

does bloodmallet have PI forced on SPriest sims? cause thats kind of new, I havent seen that before

cunning needle
runic hinge
storm forum
#

although its broken :^)

balmy condor
#

It’s just

#

What

#

That already exists

#

It’s called bloodmallet

cunning needle
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so he doesnt have to keep running the sims manually everytime something changes

balmy condor
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Why are we making a new bloodmallet