assassination

[storm forum]

true

my APM is actually lower

[half dawn]

how come?

[midnight mist]

its padded by a bunch of things that arent real cast

[storm forum]

Mut counts as 2 casts

[half dawn]

macros / off GCD counts?

[storm forum]

some other stuff counts as casts too

[royal lantern]

you dont aim for "stay above 50% energy"

it happens when you pool for a envenom chain

[midnight mist]

for outlaw you need to remove:

• the cp thing
• the dispatch that come from bte (so - number of bte casts ?)
• 2/3 of ps that are fth ones

[storm forum]

i have no idea what any of those are besides dispatch

[half dawn]

cp thing?

[slate crown]

Like if you consider actual actions taken for sin, it's really "Every GCD during cooldowns" then you have a lot of gaps

If you drop envenom chain and need to pool back up

[half dawn]

he means the 3 shots of fan the hammer

[agile geode]

Is sin good in raid for 10.2

?

[half dawn]

count as 3 button presses

and not 1

[slate crown]

you can pool for like 5-8 seconds

of no buttons

[storm forum]

ok

[midnight mist]

the cp thing

quite a lot of casts

[half dawn]

oh KEKW

[storm forum]

lmao what

why can't sin get combo point casts?

[chilly viper]

i want the icon on my name, how

[half dawn]

is assa pooling mega hard now?

[storm forum]

every channel has one of these posts, react to them to get your thing

[midnight mist]

you mean ?

[midnight mist]

not allowed for sin player tho

outlaw only

[chilly viper]

@midnight mist ye just found it

[slim hamlet]

[midnight mist]

dont steal my icon

[slim hamlet]

wtf is that

[midnight mist]

[spice spire]

Shmeeps had a goat moment

@keen spruce original (I stole his NFT)

[slim hamlet]

Thats illegal

[river lichen]

what spec is going to be meta during season 3?

[storm forum]

shmeeps is a savant

[azure surge]

Okay, appreciate it.

[chilly viper]

works?

[half dawn]

augmentation

[spice spire]

🔮

[slim hamlet]

survival hunter

[chilly viper]

[river lichen]

i mean as rogue xd

[spice spire]

Meta this meta that but…

[slim hamlet]

baseline rogue

no spec

[chilly viper]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[midnight mist]

ayo remove that

sin players arent allowed !

[chilly viper]

😄

[half dawn]

Outlaw nerf inc.
Assa (forgotten spec)
Sub becomes best spec again

my predict

[spice spire]

You’re literally a one trick

[slim hamlet]

"assa forgotten spec" the day it gets a full rework

[spice spire]

[midnight mist]

so true wtf

[slim hamlet]

so based bestie

[storm forum]

we're all good. our damage profiles are all also different enough that it will probably depend on the other meta specs and we'll plug the gaps

[midnight mist]

assa almost got to be the best spec

[half dawn]

forgotten by the playerbase not by us

xd

[midnight mist]

unfortunate bugs

[slim hamlet]

I mean

[midnight mist]

still I would hardly call that forgotten spec

[slim hamlet]

More happening in here than in sub

[half dawn]

yeah

sub FOTM rerollers on sui watch

or moving to DH

who knows

[strange python]

It's gonna come down to what people play in MDI - if sin isn't represented - you can bet sin won't get invites / won't be meta.

[slim hamlet]

Sub is good

[chilly viper]

was sub even fotm lol

[slim hamlet]

all rogue specs are top tier if bug fixes

[half dawn]

big if

[slim hamlet]

There is just no way it goes live with a bug that kills like 15k of our dmg

[wanton vine]

do you refresh rupture during kingsbane window?

[chilly viper]

my guy forgot nightstalker almost one complete tier bugged

[storm forum]

Sin will be really good for prio damage and iron wire, but outlaw is the classic flat damage glue between other big burst specs, and sub is just overall great. Frequent damage windows effectively mimics a flat damage profile and they can stack CDs for burst.

[slim hamlet]

I wont believe it until i see it

[strange python]

Sin was never even technically that bad even at its worst in m+ - i've pushed top 5% with sin in some of its worst seasons.

[slim hamlet]

Bro

What does that mean

[cinder geode]

im having a lot of fun with sin rn

[chilly viper]

outlaw target capped @midnight mist rekt

[slim hamlet]

Sin was most definitely the worst spec (maybe uhdk) in m+

[feral mason]

pushing top 5%

[cinder geode]

loving that u actually have a lot of choices with the capstones now

[slim hamlet]

yup

[strange python]

Expand?

[spice surge]

Sub profile is not flat in 10.2

[spice spire]

Yo big fan of lasagna king

[midnight mist]

you are target capped at 1 bud

[spice spire]

Love the name

[storm forum]

I also like the <take KB and mix and match> meta

[midnight mist]

never seen your spec in keys

[slim hamlet]

If you are top 5% as sin you are zerocool

no one else

[feral mason]

monday

[spice spire]

No chill

[half dawn]

Nobody played sin tbh

[chilly viper]

remember "off the meta" raider.io's event

[feral mason]

bro what

[spice spire]

Breaking the meta

[chilly viper]

Best assa moment

[spice spire]

My time to shine

[slim hamlet]

There was zerocool and then no one else

[half dawn]

I did some 22s on sin last season and was 3rd sin on my server for RIO

[feral mason]

we talking about the same top 5%?

[storm forum]

do they not have symbols + dance every 30 seconds? having a burst window for everything is like, an equivalent tool to having a flat damage profile in M+

[slim hamlet]

nvm who the fuck is lowii

[spice surge]

Well ye

But dance doesnt do much damage

[slim hamlet]

came out of no where

[spice surge]

Its flag+blades now

[storm forum]

oh ok

i was mistaken

wait

[strange python]

Probably not - i just made the number up off the top of my head with no reference really. But I pushed higher than some huge majority of the population anyway....at least top 10% if not 5%...I'm talking top for the spec on a populated server.

[storm forum]

sin is just going to be bad sub again

[slim hamlet]

[strange python]

My point was more that sin was never that bad - just that outlaw or sub were just better.

[spice spire]

Doomers 👉 🚪

[slim hamlet]

top 1% is 3k

[strange python]

3k when?

[slim hamlet]

U can get 3k with one of your arms up your ass

last season

[strange python]

Without reference to an actual season - 3k means nothing.

[slim hamlet]

?

[spice spire]

Sauce?

[half dawn]

both arms if you play Aug tbh KEKW

[storm forum]

look, KB is back, maybe sub is going back to being bad Sin like back in BFA

[midnight mist]

I did a 15 as sin in SL, so the spec is already fairly decent

[slim hamlet]

Sorry only got 2999 last season

[slim hamlet]

[half dawn]

[storm forum]

I didn't have time to push on sin last tier :< I only got my Disc priest to 3k

it was definitely doable though

[spice spire]

I saw that heroic jailer parse

[slim hamlet]

Imagine pushing in 10.1

[storm forum]

someone else on my server got 3k as sin

[midnight mist]

I stole one of your guys

[slim hamlet]

3k is just as easy to get on sin as on spriest

[midnight mist]

what you gonna do

[slim hamlet]

3k is not the keystones where comp matters the slightest

[spice spire]

Nothing bozo I’m unsubbed get woke

[midnight mist]

[storm forum]

yeah I'm agreeing with this line, you can get 3k on any spec if you put in the time

[spice spire]

Yeah right? Finally a good fucking change happens and I unsub

[midnight mist]

nah tbf come back for 11.0

this one look like a banger

[half dawn]

I did 25 BH as assa last season, it was cancer. I regret my poor choices

[spice spire]

I’m an old man

[midnight mist]

so what

im almost 24

still playing

[storm forum]

we have too many acronyms

[spice spire]

[cinder geode]

24? lets get u to bed grandpa

[raven briar]

Do we not run blindside in m+?

Ambush also applies/refreshes caustic so should be huge no?

[spice spire]

Almost got a decade on you dog

[storm forum]

I think we're TTB

[slim hamlet]

24 is actually ancient

in todays day and age

holy

[midnight mist]

oldge

[slim hamlet]

Why are you playing the zoomer spec

[proven jasper]

Damn tf

24 is old??

[midnight mist]

foreveryoung

[thorn fjord]

[devout ingot]

24 old yikes i must be ancient

[storm forum]

outlaw exists, if your age is in the double digits you're old

[midnight mist]

anything above 23 is half deceased

[half dawn]

💀

[midnight mist]

glad im not there yet

[slim hamlet]

21+ you are hyper boomer

ngl

[strange python]

So yeah I've pushed sin up a lot - that's on Area 52

[slim hamlet]

time to take a rest

[devout ingot]

wheres my 30+ crew at

[thorn fjord]

I will not stand for such disrespect

[chilly viper]

30 gang rise up

burry me already

[midnight mist]

30

[proven jasper]

dawg you are one year younger than me you will be here soon trust

[spice spire]

@gilded oasis Literal decade older than Zac

[chilly viper]

I barely alive but im still breathing

[devout ingot]

my hands are crippled low apm ass rogue is the only thing i can play now

[half dawn]

Imagine being boring in 2000+ just uninstall dawg.

[chilly viper]

being boring

[midnight mist]

hell nah bro

im good where im at

[chilly viper]

22 to 30 went by like in a week

[storm forum]

I think it's "I'm still alive but I'm barely breathing"

[wet agate]

Hard agree, my hands are cooked from a solid sesh of ol

[thorn fjord]

20s are overrated

[half dawn]

if you lose your hands you can play Aug

[chilly viper]

Dementia already started

[shy pecan]

I think I was almost outta high school when Zac was born

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I def was lol

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

Ed I didn’t realize you were an old man

I was in 4th grade when he was born

[shy pecan]

Yeah 😦

[spice spire]

[devout ingot]

@half dawn i'd rather my misery be ended than play aug

[chilly viper]

most action this channel has seen in years

talking about people's age

[thorn fjord]

Should have been here for the temperature talk

[spice spire]

Bro wait until keybind talk comes

Iykyk

[shy pecan]

I have a bad feeling I’m the oldest of the people talking at the moment

[storm forum]

its ok to be old

[still creek]

imagine being born before 2000

[storm forum]

as long as you dont play outlaw

[cinder geode]

u probably been a bucks fan since kareem was there huh

[spice spire]

[gentle burrow]

Hows it going fellow sin siblings

[spice spire]

Ol Garf got jokes

[thorn fjord]

I’m 36

[gentle burrow]

Whats cooking

[storm forum]

change ur color and ask that again

[spice spire]

Greetings and salutations lili voss simp

[shy pecan]

RIP I’m older

[chilly viper]

old up

[gentle burrow]

I said siblings

[chilly viper]

where my boots aty

[cinder geode]

appreciate it thought it went over everyones heads

[spice spire]

@chilly viper for freeeeee?

[thorn fjord]

We’re like a fine wine

[chilly viper]

but what are those thoo

[spice spire]

You can’t just post dogs like that

[shy pecan]

I’m also Asian, so I’ll look like this until like I’m 60

[spice spire]

I’m sorry

[storm forum]

we're being mad about things that don't matter

[chilly viper]

Its okay I'll wear em eventually

[spice spire]

Proud of you

[shy pecan]

[gentle burrow]

Sounds like a rogue channel

[chilly viper]

kick him

[storm forum]

no, kick me

[gentle burrow]

When youre a rogue main you embrace the doomposting

You thrive in it

[eternal heath]

We do a little dooming

[spice spire]

I’ve never doomed a day in my life big dog

[keen spruce]

my nfts are copyright free

[nimble tartan]

happymaxxin

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

I've never not doomed a day in my life

[spice spire]

That’s false bestie

[shy pecan]

Same

[spice spire]

I’ve seen the disc priest arc

[storm forum]

have you seen me in the disc channel?

im giga dooming

[spice spire]

No

[blazing jewel]

quake dh when

[spice spire]

Unsubbed

[storm forum]

im playing rogue this tier cause the ramp timers look so ass for disc

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

thats actually a lie

i havent looked at the ramp timers at all

[gentle burrow]

Nietzche was a rogue main

[storm forum]

I just wanna play rogue cause I havent in like 2 years

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

I tell no lies

[storm forum]

getting stabby withdrawl

[gilded oasis]

OK IM 34 YOU DOG

[spice spire]

Yeah he’s 23

So I lied

[gilded oasis]

yeah get it right

decade +1

[spice spire]

You’re a decade and a year older

[gilded oasis]

[gentle burrow]

Im 96 in rogue years

[clever sapphire]

is volcoross trinket A+ or A tier? this is giving me information i cant use

[spice spire]

So 8?

[gentle burrow]

The average rogue lifespan is lower

[shy pecan]

Welcome to the club

[storm forum]

what the hell is a rogue year?

[gentle burrow]

Because of all the stress

[raven briar]

Is mirror good now?

[storm forum]

is a tier a rogue year?

[gentle burrow]

Depends

[storm forum]

a patch?

[gentle burrow]

Is it a good or a bad tier

[shy pecan]

Only if you’re an outlaw player

Because you’ll die faster

[simple ore]

A rogue year is the like 2 weeks we're allowed to be strong

[storm forum]

we got nerfed week 0 and didnt get rebuffed until the .5 patch

[thorn fjord]

I kinda wanna play frost mage

[spice spire]

Banned

[gentle burrow]

Rogues are like mosquitos

They are born, reproduce

[spice spire]

?

[storm forum]

so at the end we were good, but stigmatized cause we sucked at the beginning

[gentle burrow]

Die a week later

[spice spire]

Bold of you to assume that in a wow server

[low quartz]

New to assassination and gotta admit - struggling a bit!!! In any shadowdance window, is the goal to get a rebuffed garotte, rupture and Kingsbane? Does it matter WHEN in the dance, per se?

[storm forum]

its true, I do not reproduce

[gentle burrow]

Maybe some do mitosis

Idk

[shy pecan]

Don’t do it

[gentle burrow]

Or are like fungi

A shrigma rogue

[spice spire]

You want the KB as early as possible. And you want the longest possible bleed timers many are just macroing dance and KB together

[gentle burrow]

Rogues are the embodiment of the cambrian explosion

[jagged iris]

Does sudden demise seem bugged? I've noticed it doesn't always proc for me. Maybe I have I miss understood but it seems like it should one shot everyone when below 35% and dots is 150% current health? I'm seeing alot of enemies slowing ticking down and not just exploding suddenly in demise

[spice spire]

It’s a weird balancing act

[storm forum]

Usually KB first, then gar, then rup, thats mostly to use KB ASAP so it lasts all of DM

[spice spire]

The check timer is off I think I read this am

[jagged iris]

Love that

[low quartz]

yeah I think thats where I spiral a bit hahaha - like, do I want to re-extend garotte and rupture towards the end of my dance to REALLY extend the buff - essentially cutting the existing dot short - or nah?

[storm forum]

ok I kind of like this one. every tier after I play rogue, I die and play something else, then my spore eventually blooms into a new me and I play rogue again or something idk I hate this now get out of my head rogue fungus

https://tenor.com/view/head-spongebob-gif-20612177

[glossy imp]

man idk if I like assa rogue after the rework, this is a sad day

[cinder geode]

sin is feeling rlly fun to me idk about you

[glossy imp]

i wish garfield i wish..

maybe just need more time

[slim hamlet]

outlaw angle

[gentle burrow]

If garfield is having fun u know the spec is fiya

[spice spire]

Big Garf has spoken brethren and sistren

[slim hamlet]

I am atheist tho

[gentle burrow]

U cant argue against someone so passionate about lasagna

[spice spire]

Assassination ✅
Lasagna ✅
Mondays ❌

[gentle burrow]

U know only truth is coming out of their mouth

[cinder geode]

i was trying out all the specs today and outlaw was the only one that felt weird to me

[gentle burrow]

Luv' me sin
Luv' me sagna
'Ate mondies
'Ate outla'

Simple as

[spice spire]

Jokes aside, I’ve seen long time sin players hate it, and love it

[cinder geode]

i felt like i was getting nrg starved in like 2 seconds

[spice spire]

So it’s just a personal preference

Yeah

[slate crown]

This pvp quest

is so bad

It's just spawn, die spawn die spawn die

get 1 spark or 0

[clever sapphire]

its pvp

what do you expect

fun?

[slate crown]

almost done at least

[gentle burrow]

Mf went into pvp expecting to have fun

[slate crown]

No no

This not for fun

[manic quartz]

How to add condition or something to weakaura so that it doesnt show when youre in stealth ? im sure its super simple but i just cant figure it out

[slate crown]

I just want 1k rep

[muted ridge]

yo what's the timer we should ask for PI?

in opener or so

[clever sapphire]

at deathmark

[spice spire]

What cursed said

[muted ridge]

before or after DM?

[spice spire]

And if you ask about a different timing ur an idiot (I already did that

On dm

Like roughly 8s

You press dm

[slate crown]

Many priests get a weakaura

[spice spire]

Priest light pops up

[slate crown]

that tells them when a major is used

[spice spire]

They press pi

GG

[muted ridge]

Got it

cheers Oxi

[spice spire]

Wait

So I need to change my name

[slate crown]

y

so based

[spice spire]

People just think I’m oxi

I could never be that perfect

[tropic shard]

can someone send me good m plus talents pls

[desert inlet]

Not a boots fan anymore

[spice spire]

I am no longer a boots addict

[sand burrow]

This is really the best Sin has felt in a long time. My rogue back in wrath was mut spec, and it was a ball to get those dank crits and ticks. Hasn't felt that good since.

[spice spire]

It’s in the pins in the guides

[shy pecan]

🙂

[clever sapphire]

im sending a picture now, not burnt out yet from answering these questions xD

[sand burrow]

(any typos are because my phone dumped my saved words last update.)

[desert inlet]

Yay someone still likes him

[spice spire]

Fraudulent!

[shy pecan]

no u

[spice spire]

@slow needle

Is the true #1

[spice spire]

I never have liked him

I loved him

[desert inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/number-one-mr-krabs-spongebob-hat-it-was-his-hat-gif-16998256

[sand burrow]

Is this the "brainbleach all of shadowlands build?"

XD

[gentle burrow]

Pretty sure theres a weakaura or addon u can share with ur priest that tells u when to pi

Or tells the priest

Ive seen priests use that

[spice spire]

There is

Keep reading

[sand burrow]

It's called "GivePriestGoldBeforePull.exe"

[spice spire]

Nah we’re one of the best targets this tier

Without bribe

[sand burrow]

Don't tell UH DK that...

[gentle burrow]

Im a rogue i dont read

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[spice spire]

I did and ruined his day week month and year

[gentle burrow]

Instead of reading i could be doing damage and pickpocketing

[sand burrow]

Pickpockets "A Steamy Romance Novel"

VENDORS

[gentle burrow]

Can we pin this and quote it every time someone says sin is bad

We do some propaganda

A lil trolling

[spice spire]

We do enough of that in channel

[sand burrow]

Wait, let me get the DK class discord...

[spice spire]

No need to pin it

[sand burrow]

Don't go in the outlaw thread, it looks like reddit right now.

[gentle burrow]

That duck goes hard

[sand burrow]

Idk, that duck looks like he's gonna cut ya.

[spice spire]

@keen spruce irl

[gentle burrow]

Thats just outlaw channel in general

[spice spire]

When someone says that I have to

[sand burrow]

Lmao, true. It's become an RP channel.

[gentle burrow]

Outlaws are an endangered species let them be

They have 1 good thing since...

Idk

When was the last time

They had something good

Let em be

[sand burrow]

When they were combat, and KS was a one shot.

[slim hamlet]

perfect in your own way

[sand burrow]

I loved combat PvP in wrath, because 8s stunlock into killing spree was hilarious on priests

[spice spire]

Okay all, behave I’m going to work again

[midnight mist]

no

[rare jackal]

spatter on nelth 🌰

[sand burrow]

Yeah, break is about over dammit. I also forgot to open my vault last night >.<

[marble hemlock]

time to party

[glossy imp]

nvm i was just missing acro a lot, ig i will be an acro andy

[spice spire]

Sir you have a chat to maintain

[midnight mist]

nah bro im tired

[amber blaze]

Y we are quite a few who pointed that

[midnight mist]

I will leave them be

[tawdry gulch]

any1 have a opener for aoe / st in m+?

[gentle burrow]

Zac what gear should i farm

Jk

Luv u

Zac rn

[clever sapphire]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[gentle burrow]

Outlaw ch on fire lmao

[slow needle]

@shy pecan I did my time as the understudy to take this place.

I shan't tolerate an imposter coming in to try and usurp my place.

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

@shy pecan

[shy pecan]

Hey

[ivory ridge]

Is there any point in using Crimson Tempest on aoe now?

[spice spire]

Yes

[shy pecan]

Fixed

[gentle burrow]

All my homies hate quake

Jk i cant hate quake

[spice spire]

(You should, I’m poop)

[low quartz]

in your shadow dance window, do you try to refresh garotte once or twice? (once at the beginning and once towards the end)

[royal lantern]

once

[timber meadow]

is there somethin we can link to rl for pi?

[ivory ridge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[sand burrow]

Intellect plate, so you can learn to read.

[strange python]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/power_infusion

[timber meadow]

thanks

[nimble tartan]

what happened to otl

[gentle burrow]

?

[slim hamlet]

?

WAIT

WHY DO I HAVE ER EMOTE

[gentle burrow]

Exposed

[slim hamlet]

I only want KiR 😠

[worn fossil]

whats wrong with wowhead

it destroys my browser lol

[abstract jacinth]

What ended up happening with Ambush for Caustic Spatter, did blizz decide to add it or not add it or do we know yet

[balmy condor]

ambush got added

[slim hamlet]

ye

[balmy condor]

the tooltip didn't get updated

will at some point

but ambush does trigger it

[slim hamlet]

Gotta keep it consistantly inconsistant with tooltips

[abstract jacinth]

awesome, thanks! rewatching your ST youtube video now Whispyr

[limber radish]

is it worth to macro SD and KB together? is there a world where u press one but not the other?

[balmy condor]

np

[slim hamlet]

In weird m+ scenarios possibly

[limber radish]

talking only raid ST

[slim hamlet]

Then no

[inner swift]

anyone has like a default m+ talent to share if possible

[balmy condor]

read a guide

they're in the pins

[slim hamlet]

[glossy imp]

can you read the guide for me? @balmy condor

[slim hamlet]

Why u no use macro?

[glossy imp]

and download info to me ty

[shy pecan]

Bedtime story

Read by Whispyr

[balmy condor]

[shy pecan]

Whispyr whispering “Hiya”

[nimble tartan]

ive been duped…

goodbye…

[slim hamlet]

wat

[white lance]

wheres my hunger for blood icon

[azure surge]

Is there really any negative besides the lack of utility in M+ to swap Iron Wire for Twist the Knife?

[gentle burrow]

Whispyr i have a question

[slim hamlet]

The negative is giving away the single best utility in the game for incredibly minor dmg increase

[gentle burrow]

Since youre german, do you wear these?

[slim hamlet]

Everywhere in northern europe

besides the flag

[glossy imp]

in aoe it says to mutilate to refresh caustic, but say you're in dance, should you ambush instead if you need to refresh?

[slim hamlet]

ofc

[spice surge]

Ambush refreshes it too

[glossy imp]

ok so would you say its a good idea to do one of those fancy macros that swaps mut with ambush if ambush is available?

[slim hamlet]

no

just have ambush on the same key in stealth

[thorn fjord]

You’re either German, a hippie or a dad if you’re wearing these

[glossy imp]

oh ok

[slim hamlet]

blindside automatically changes your mutilate to ambush

[glossy imp]

good idea

ty

[grand trail]

Assa kinda insane in raid

[nimble tartan]

im back again pi is strong

[slow mortar]

I wear those (without socks) and am part German, like tie dye and a dad 👨

[thorn fjord]

The trifecta

[clever niche]

Did some m+ tonight, feels real good honestly. Also sudden demise rips in time walking

[slow mortar]

@thorn fjord the little one also likes the fancy colors

[clever niche]

Aww very cool

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

pick a site

[thorn fjord]

Does he have a pair of Birkenstocks too?

[nimble tartan]

huh

[nimble tartan]

wdym bro

[slow mortar]

His chubby cheeks are soooo chubby

[nimble tartan]

i was on bloodmalley

[slim hamlet]

outlaw or sin

[nimble tartan]

bro i cant ignore the pi

[slim hamlet]

wtf

[nimble tartan]

outlaw without pi outcranks natty sin rogue but the juice is the juice is the juice

[slow mortar]

Not yet cause he a fast growing boy

[slim hamlet]

My initial KB hit just did 125k

[cunning frost]

do i craft a weapon with my first spark?

[slim hamlet]

prolly not

if u wanna minmax

[clever niche]

Yeah KB hits like a truck

[nimble tartan]

if i dont get a weapon somehow by 2nd craft i will

[slim hamlet]

Same

[nimble tartan]

but also last tier i crafted weapon first and didnt regret it

[slim hamlet]

I will craft boots with first

[nimble tartan]

max ilevel weapon is sick af

[slim hamlet]

And patch/weapon depending on rng with 2nd

U get 2nd spark legit 2nd week of season anyway

So fast

[clever niche]

My friend lucked out, has 2 460 daggers

[cunning frost]

how?

[clever niche]

Not mad at all

[slim hamlet]

So he has already spent all his crests

[balmy condor]

you mean 450 right

[nimble tartan]

how u get 460 already

[balmy condor]

surely

[slim hamlet]

No u can get 460

[balmy condor]

tell me he didn't spend his crests

on world drops

[clever niche]

Sorry typo

[nimble tartan]

chad

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[nimble tartan]

he said fuck the min max

chad move tbh

[slim hamlet]

Kinda based ngl

[clever niche]

Yeah he has no stones or crests

[slim hamlet]

gaming to game now not in a week

gotta farm those emerald seeds for 20 rep faster

[slim hamlet]

The weapon I got was outlaw weapon because I forgot to switch

gg

[nimble tartan]

rate this spec difficulty 1-10 i aint play this since mf uh…shadowlands CN

am i too old for sin

[balmy condor]

oh my god

[junior pulsar]

Do you crimson tempest on 2 targets?

[balmy condor]

[nimble tartan]

or am i gonna be ok

[balmy condor]

yes

[slim hamlet]

prolly 8

I think it's likely the hardest m+ spec now

Much more to think about than most specs

[nimble tartan]

ok m+ forsure its hard cause u gotta be sick

i mean st only

im law in m+ bro

[clever niche]

Plate spin sassination

[slim hamlet]

ST is hard if u gotta think about it

Once we have done it for 1-2 weeks it should be easier

Same thing again and again

[snow kindle]

do we tea when we deathmark

[nimble tartan]

trueee

[clever niche]

For sure, takes time to bed in

[nimble tartan]

just gotta get reps in

[slim hamlet]

Tea last 6 secs of KB

for giga optimizing

[nimble tartan]

im tryna understand it without havin played it yet

mashallah

[slim hamlet]

otherwise just for energy

[clever niche]

Feels so satisfying every pull though in m+ caustic + kb burns packs down

[snow kindle]

Also we are finish on four correct or rather 4 and above

[clever niche]

Finish at 4+

Less combo point waste

[junior pulsar]

Did a key with KB being very low overall. You put it on highest hp target and then attack that target right?

[sweet dawn]

I just did a key with KB being 5th, most of the damage KB does in keys is actually the cleave from Spatter

You shiv > dance > kb then shiv when the 1st runs out

and vanish last 3 seconds if you have it

make sure you mut before the KB and again before spatter runs out

[clever niche]

I need to practice st opener, it's busy but I like it. Shame the guilds on raid break until 14th. Might do lfr for a laugh

[slim hamlet]

I probably do lfr too

smort

[timber meadow]

assasin burst pretty thick tbh jesus

[halcyon falcon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[low quartz]

I have a question - at point 19, are you reopening with a garotte or ambush after vanish

[slim hamlet]

2nd highest burst in the game

[slim hamlet]

ambush probably

[timber meadow]

behind no pi dk?

[balmy condor]

neither

[slim hamlet]

Since you will want to extend the garrote at the latest point

huh

[slim hamlet]

Yes their first burst is higher than ours

[balmy condor]

it's supposed to be env gar env

if you can't get env gar env the next best would be gar env gar env

[slim hamlet]

3cp envenom?

[balmy condor]

5

[slim hamlet]

how

[balmy condor]

shrouded during deathmark gives cp for each garrote

[slim hamlet]

oh

makes sense

[indigo mulch]

This opener is hard man

[low quartz]

5-head, love it - also, I think im just too stupid for this spec hahaha

[indigo mulch]

😐

[slim hamlet]

Just download a hacker wa that tells u the precise opener

or

castsequence it up

[indigo mulch]

Yeah no :C

[nimble tartan]

i need that

[slim hamlet]

Sorry not allowed

[nimble tartan]

venth boomkin had a wa for their burst it was lit

[slim hamlet]

ofc boomkins had

[indigo mulch]

Is there even a weakaura for that?

[slim hamlet]

idk

but you could probably make one

[indigo mulch]

It seams silly. Why wouldn't you want to learn the spec yourself? D:

[slim hamlet]

without too much difficulty

[indigo mulch]

Honestly you could prob castsequence the entire opener though lmao

[slim hamlet]

yea

with it being max-2 cp now

[balmy condor]

not a great solution though

[nimble tartan]

i need that

[balmy condor]

cause rng on seal fate gets in your way

[slim hamlet]

Having to move for 1 sec

gg

[night delta]

In the Dance ST build, if you have difficulties maintaining env buff aswell as >150 energy, do you feel its acceptable to ditch master assassin for twist the knife ? or is that really too much of a loss ?

[nimble tartan]

i know a mage fire who cast sequence his whole combust

[indigo mulch]

I mean, you could never beat using your own brain to do the rotations lol

[nimble tartan]

goated

[slim hamlet]

Should never matter with max-2 now right?

Will always be 2 casts

[indigo mulch]

What is a good amount for KB burst though?

[balmy condor]

yeah until you mut and get 4

[indigo mulch]

The max i've been at is 1.2mil

[low quartz]

also - all of our finishers can/should be used at 4+cp?

[balmy condor]

yes

[slim hamlet]

yea but you said max-2 and max-1 was basically same so clicking it at 4 is still good no?

[nimble tartan]

dam i was lowkey good at sin in cn i forgot!!!!

[indigo mulch]

I can't get over 1.2mil on the first one, and thats being kind of lucky.

[slim hamlet]

or am I misunderstanding

[balmy condor]

ye I guess

[slim hamlet]

Castsequence

https://tenor.com/view/jhnnycrwsh-forsen-nymn-batchest-twitch-gif-24086134

[indigo mulch]

I'm using notter's WA for KB but i still can't get a decent opener :C

[nimble tartan]

need it so baddd

[indigo mulch]

[timber meadow]

if i isolate like a 3s window im getting around there without pi but taking into account the entire opener on pull, im peaking around 300-350k from what ive seen

[indigo mulch]

I mean I'm just focusing on how much i can do with KB, cause thats more or less what the build is all about. The fluff in the middle is easy.

[nimble tartan]

have to find a pi macro keybind.. wtf

lifes hard

[timber meadow]

so yeah i gave you your answer

gettin similar max kb burst

[indigo mulch]

How much dmg is that with kb? :p

[timber meadow]

oh nm i had one kb spike over 6m idk how to read this shit lol

[indigo mulch]

rip

[slate crown]

I should just re-post my burst window to wago

[timber meadow]

just lookin at the log so maybe im dumb

[spark scaffold]

[slate crown]

My pack comes with a "How much damage did you deal in X window" tracker. For assassination it's KB, for sub it's Dance. For outlaw it doesn't exist because...

[balmy condor]

that's dps

[slate crown]

I should make it standalone

[wispy quail]

Are there any existing DoT trackers like this one for Sin?

https://wago.io/mi9vOgJTH

[timber meadow]

oh okay, yeah iono

[indigo mulch]

Is that the bar WA you made the other day? I remember seeing it. The one with breakpoints on the bar when to use what

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[wispy quail]

It’s a plater script, but I don’t know how to build it or if it would even be worthwhile for Sin

[slate crown]

No, it's something different

[spark scaffold]

i know its a bit irelevant now, but out of curiosity has it been explored doing KB a bit later in the current deathmark so your last 2 ticks benefit from the tier set?

[indigo mulch]

show me.

[slate crown]

It's this, but for kingsbane https://wago.io/btp6W6TP_

[nimble tartan]

whats this wa

[spark scaffold]

in the screenshot i posted the last tick was 1.3mill only because of the tier set

[nimble tartan]

i need that king

[slate crown]

I need to re-post it standalone but don't have time right this moment

[slim hamlet]

just put it in your DM button

[slow needle]

Search for "Notter" in this channel.

[indigo mulch]

Can you dm me when you do have the time to sort it?

[timber meadow]

so you're just looking for how much dps you do in your entire kb window? or somethin else

[slate crown]

Yeah

[indigo mulch]

Cheerios.

[wispy quail]

I have Luxthos’ group and yours @balmy condor . I like that feral one because the nameplate changed colors based upon which dots were up. Im struggling keeping track on big pulls.

Or do one of the other ones already do that?

[slow needle]

Nvm, I just went and found it @nimble tartan #assassination message

[indigo mulch]

No, i'm looking kb dmg only. How much dmg i can do with kb during the opener.

[nimble tartan]

thank you!!! @mr boots

[timber meadow]

ah i see, so how much dmg the kb ability specifically does in its entire duration in opener

[slate crown]

I should say mine isn't kingsbane damage, it's "How much damage did you do with everything, during kingsbane". Notter's is specifically kingsbane damage

[onyx crane]

I am having a discussion on how sudden demise works...
is it that it works like a touch of death type of execute?

[indigo mulch]

Its fine, I want to try all of them. Anything that can help my boomer brain learn faster.

[timber meadow]

would it be this in the log? this was my opener on kaz and i just isolted to only kingsbane as the dmg source

[slate crown]

Notter hello 🙂

[gaunt moat]

No PI, but with aug buffs.
sophic procced. and all hits were crits.

[indigo mulch]

[timber meadow]

yeah i think mine is prob a better example, didn't have any externals basically 3.1 seems def right though with procs and shit

[slow needle]

What is your crit chance?

[gaunt moat]

I'm not in raid anymore, but alone it's at 40%

[slow needle]

Just wondering how likely it is.

[near osprey]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

not specifically for that functionality, it changes for kingsbane, caustic, and deathmark to keep track of cooldown'd targets

[slow needle]

So for 8 Kingsbane ticks to all crit you're looking at 6.5% chance.

Nice.

[balmy condor]

yes

[slow needle]

Wait no.

0.065%

I multiplied by 100 in my head and on the calculator xD

[gaunt moat]

it would be higher, prescience gives 3% crit, i dunno what else increases it

[balmy condor]

master assassin is 30% on top

40% base with 30% ma and 3% prescience is 73%

[slow needle]

Okay, 3% from presc gives it 0.11% for all of them.

Oh yeah, that is also a thing.

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/UootxwOhT

No screenshots yet, just a baseline wago page but the link is there

[grand trail]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slate crown]

I'm working on finishing my alt's rep grind so I can finally log back into my rogue

[slim hamlet]

WHY YELL

[slate crown]

So close D:

to 10

[grand trail]

cos caps is my mic mute

[slow needle]

He mutes himself so he can shout at us.

[balmy condor]

kingsbane is 7 ticks, the first 3 are within dance, the last 2 is with vanish.

so we have 5 ticks at 73% crit, 2 ticks at 43% is 0.73^5 * 0.43^2 gives 0.0383

convert to percent

you got a 3.83% chance of all your kb ticks critting

it's actually higher than that but I'm not redoing my math

[strange python]

!Whispyr

[balmy condor]

cause deadly precision is another 5%

and icba

[gaunt moat]

I don't know how to read numbers. but basically it was one in a million chance.

[timber meadow]

how can i tell in a log if a particular kingsbane dmg instance was a crit?

[balmy condor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JfhrtNkB6px3T8aY#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=21&start=666696&end=669697&ability=385627

this was a crit

[strange python]

where the sims at

[gaunt moat]

Select your character, Select Kingsbane, zoom in on the timeframe of a single kingsbane

[balmy condor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JfhrtNkB6px3T8aY#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=21&ability=385627&start=668738&end=671739

this was not

[gaunt moat]

under the crit column you will see the crt %

[timber meadow]

so just looking at the bar size? or is there something im supposed to be lookijng at outside that

oh nm im dumb i see

thx

so does this mean that every one of my ticks crit since the crit % is 100?

[strange python]

fuu sim still uses thorns. did the sim change or is it still supposed to be 2 silver linings?

[gaunt moat]

yes (to owen)

[onyx crane]

so here's a thing... a guildy of mine hates the proc on mutilate because he cannot use caustic splatter when blindside procs

[timber meadow]

ah okay, nm then didn't realize they all crit prob bad example then thx for the lesson lol

[balmy condor]

no

that's not what that says

[gaunt moat]

no?

[balmy condor]

that says the original hit crit

[gaunt moat]

oh

[balmy condor]

and the ticks had a 57% crit rate

[gaunt moat]

so disregard, i also had 57% on ticks

[timber meadow]

gotcha, so in order to see which ones specifically crit you'd have to narrow the timeline tick by tick?

if you really wanted to know which 57% were the ones that crit for wtvr reason

[balmy condor]

yes

[timber meadow]

ye my big boi crit so gg ig?

[night delta]

In the Dance ST build, if you have difficulties maintaining env buff aswell as >150 energy, do you feel its acceptable to ditch master assassin for twist the knife ? or is that really too much of a loss ?

I'm having a lot of trouble atm

[slate crown]

From my testing a week or so ago, TTK's best tradeoff was actually Imp Poison

[distant fox]

after this mini hotfix or whatever? since well.. 12h ago my weakauras worked, now everything is fcked on my rogue, anybody got issues aswell (luxthos)? wanted to go to dummies

[night delta]

hmm ok

[slim hamlet]

you're not supposed to be able to keep 150+ energy + 100% envenom

[balmy condor]

why is that an issue

[trail mica]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[royal lantern]

ignore that sanguine blades exist

you dont play around it

its a passive dmg gain that sometimes happens, thats all

[night delta]

well dunno, feels like i'm missing something when i sometimes get streaks where i lose up to 4 seconds of env buff and i'm also spent below 150

[balmy condor]

perfect

as long as you're chaining envenoms

you're doing it

[nimble tartan]

that the pooling practice wa do

[slim hamlet]

Just dont do that inside KB and we guchi

[gaunt moat]

did you update luxthos? he has a new version

[night delta]

well ok then i'll stop worrying

[royal lantern]

you chain envenoms, no matter the energy once you get going

[nimble tartan]

when u guys say chainin env u mean tha buff

?

[royal lantern]

when you are bellow poopyblades range, thats it, just keep going until you drop the chain

[slim hamlet]

just keep pressing envenom

[night delta]

i guess yeah they mean you gotta pandemic it

[slim hamlet]

for 4pc

but might aswell get used to it

[royal lantern]

when you start pooling up again or during cd windows it gets running again

[royal lantern]

tbf, pandemic is not a big thing with 4cp finishers

its still ~6 sec most of the time

[night delta]

out of habit i'm staying at 5+ finishers, less strain on my muscle memory

[nimble tartan]

do i send env insta 4cp or wait a lil to pool bro

[royal lantern]

cast envenom at like, 2 seconds

[nimble tartan]

ok

[night delta]

wasn't going at 4+ instead of 5+ cp a very very minor gain anyway ?

[distant fox]

fresh download not even updated the old one to prevent issues but the new one has lots of lua errors with his custom tigger

[nimble tartan]

im hittin the dummy in my brain rn

[gaunt moat]

I found that it was kinda difficult to chain envenoms and also waiting for 80% energy and also keep bleeds up.

[slim hamlet]

well

because u dont

[nimble tartan]

why we gotta have so much energy

[slim hamlet]

we dont have infinite energy

poggies

[royal lantern]

when you wait for energy, you drop envenoms

thats the point

[gaunt moat]

i am

[night delta]

maybe that'd be easier if we heavily stacked haste

[gaunt moat]

but i'm saying it drops a lot.

[night delta]

but i guess we don't so

[slim hamlet]

prolly not

[flint tusk]

stacking haste gets us a whole 1 extra apm

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jhnnycrwsh-forsen-nymn-batchest-twitch-gif-24086134

[royal lantern]

~80% energy = you chain envenoms as long as possible, it will either stop because you run out of energy or because re-applying bleeds will end it, when it ends you wait until ~80% energy again

thats it

[royal lantern]

dont you dare bringing that up

[night delta]

not talking apm, rather maintainening env and sanguine uptime

[trail mica]

Is there a simulation command on discord?

[distant fox]

i got a lot of haste and with st build im swimming in energy, it feels like it. and procing like 5 ambush ina a row helps a lot xD

[flint tusk]

yeh it gets you maybe 1 mutilate extra

[slim hamlet]

well that only goes up with more apm

[nimble tartan]

ohhh this made it v easy to understand

[gaunt moat]

Hard to say what's the issue. i didn't encounter it. might be somehing was imported inccorectly or some setting you messed with / renamed/ dragged

[nimble tartan]

thank you for explaining

[royal lantern]

HASTE.DOESNT.DO.SHIT

🙂

[slim hamlet]

Just watch Whispyrs videos

fr

[distant fox]

do you mind a PM?

[balmy condor]

you realize those are the same thing right

[royal lantern]

you dont suddenly go from "oh i need to pool" into "i have endless energy xddddd" because of haste

[nimble tartan]

i will later

[royal lantern]

haste does litearlly close to 0 in your energy gain

[nimble tartan]

are u guys doin the alt farm thing

[night delta]

env sure, sanguine uptime has nothing to do with having high apm though ?

[royal lantern]

if anything crit has more value

[slim hamlet]

my 3rd today

batchestiiiiiing

[night delta]

sanguine uptime is balance of energy gain vs spent

[royal lantern]

do i look like an idiot

[flint tusk]

stop stealing my luck bro

[nimble tartan]

idk bro…

[balmy condor]

APM is the act of having more energy gain vs spent

[slim hamlet]

One of my guildies had 4 before I even got done with main quest

[royal lantern]

i did story, grabed the dragonriding runes and did some world event for fun

thats it

[nimble tartan]

i just want someone to tel me its not worth

[slim hamlet]

life?

[royal lantern]

idiots that grind their eyes out for a rune as if thats gonna make a difference

yeha sure, the rune is what is gonna stop you from progress, just ignore that if you play in 1 of the 10guilds where that is the case, you just buy the runes from the AH

[balmy condor]

more haste is more energy, doesn't matter if that energy is in the form of APM or envenom uptime or sanguine uptime or whatever you want to use to measure it

no matter how you measure it

it's not significant

[night delta]

If you look it that way yeah that sounds correct

[nimble tartan]

it gonna give me bigger dps tho bro

bigger wang

[balmy condor]

what other way is there to look at it

[slim hamlet]

the other way

[royal lantern]

the left way

[slim hamlet]

duh

[balmy condor]

it's not an opinion

that's just

how math works

[slim hamlet]

Everything is an opinion

[nimble tartan]

true

[night delta]

just feels like, you know, +30% haste feels like it should be more than 1/55th of your energy budget, if it does indeed raise apm by a measly 1

[strange python]

Some things are theories

like gravity

[nimble tartan]

are we like uhdk where all that matters is our pi burst and we just pressing buttons for fun but its baby

until we go agane

[cerulean nest]

English is a beautiful language

[royal lantern]

or the earth beeing round

[strange python]

not an expert, but it doesn't feel like that to me - sure a lot is in that window, but a lot is outside of it too

[night delta]

like, over the course of a minute, the difference between 20% and 50% haste really generates energy for just 1 mutilate ? that feels wrong, even if it's how it maths out

[nimble tartan]

mfs in da dreamgrove maxin rep while im her dreams cause im maxin reps at the gym

[balmy condor]

30% haste is more than 1 apm

idk where that numbers coming from

[strange python]

You guys forget - haste might make you gain more - but it also makes you spend it quicker
💥

[balmy condor]

but 30% haste is insane lmao

[slim hamlet]

no

[balmy condor]

30% haste is like 4500 haste rating or something

unfathomably large

[night delta]

Kil saying "yeah maybe 1 mutilate extra" when i talked about what would happen if we stacked haste

[slim hamlet]

I can fathom it

[night delta]

which btw was not meant as "we should stack haste"

[nimble tartan]

i wonder what our bis stats lookin like if we know we gettin pi

[balmy condor]

hyperbole then

[lilac sage]

30% haste is 3 energy per second, over a minute it's 180 energy or ~3.5 mutilates

[slim hamlet]

prolly no different

Since it doesn't give you less if u got more

[royal lantern]

its a bit more cus dots tick faster, but yeha, its such a minimal gain

[lilac sage]

It's actually a bit more than that if you have Dashing Scoundrel and DoT ticks

[balmy condor]

adding 1000 haste took the APM up by 1.2

[slim hamlet]

Yea Venomous Wounds exists too

[flint tusk]

^^^^ i never said anything about getting 30% haste

[slim hamlet]

It would be quite a bit more with 30%

[night delta]

anyhow, my point was, with more energy/sec with higher haste, the equilibrium at >150 energy should reasonably be quite easier to attain while maintaining our other maintenance (again, not saying that's what we should do)

[balmy condor]

that's around 6% numerically

[balmy condor]

do you know

how much haste that would need

to reach that point

where you're just >150 all the time

[slim hamlet]

just perma bloodlust bro

[flint tusk]

perma PI and bloodlust Nod

[royal lantern]

WE ARE BFA HASTE CORRUPTION STACKING AGAIN

[slim hamlet]

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna check it actually

[slim hamlet]

nerd

[balmy condor]

I'll start at like 14k haste

and go from there

idk

[slim hamlet]

inb4 u only need like 8k

xdd

[royal lantern]

there are 2 things that make whisp check stuff

genuiely good questions

and really really dumb stuff that will never be a thing, but HE NEEDS TO KNOW

[slim hamlet]

Betting on 17.4k

[shy pecan]

6.9k

[radiant quail]

7.4k

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-cooper-bbt-sleep-i-dont-need-sleep-gif-5115394

[flint tusk]

Notter can i just say bro. i love this kingsbane WA

[slim hamlet]

Actually I am going 15.8k

[balmy condor]

the top is hits on rupture, the bottom is hits on sanguine blades

actually reasonably good guess by me

[royal lantern]

the wa is the only thing that makes me do KB somewhat correct

[flint tusk]

same xD

[balmy condor]

15k haste might be enough

[night delta]

what apm does that leave this at ?

[slim hamlet]

how much % is that?

[night delta]

like 98%

[nimble tartan]

who got the opener cast weakaura

[slim hamlet]

So perma BL and PI

[balmy condor]

that ones 61.6

[slim hamlet]

pog

14k haste = 4 more apm

[night delta]

now trick question, how much apm is the bare minimum to maintain env buff and garrote and rupture

[balmy condor]

aight yeh we got there

15k haste

[night delta]

i bet it's way less than 61.6

[balmy condor]

no, you've made me sim enough dumb shit I tire of your games jester

[slim hamlet]

You told us we could mould you as we wished

[flint tusk]

i'll mold you alright

[slim hamlet]

I dont wanna 😦

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-come-here-chain-gif-13123758

[night delta]

yeah I wasn't really asking for a sim here, my point was (and I know that's gonna sound silly again), that there's a break between increasing apm and increasing buff/debuff uptime. At some point, you just get 100% and APM changes nothing

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/fluffy-gabe-iglesias-gabriel-iglesias-i-dont-wanna-dont-wanna-gif-17563254

[marble hemlock]

welcome to the club @night delta

its a small but powerful society

[flint tusk]

of copium

[slim hamlet]

and despair

[royal lantern]

and cats