#assassination

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burnt fjord
spice spire
gilded oasis
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@spice spire hope you're having a good Friday

spice spire
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I refuse. I pray yours is going great and you have a great weekend (this is a threat)

gilded oasis
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ya Im baking 5 million cookies this weekend gonna be great

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well Monday I guess. I'll count that as my weekend

spice spire
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You work on the weekend insanecat

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Baking is fun.
I have so much cooking to do tomorrow kekdog

gilded oasis
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whatcha cookin

junior pulsar
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There must be someway of removing weapon poisons from Plater bars right? trying to figure out why but no luck so far

gilded oasis
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Yes there is

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(im logging in, not just not answering)

junior pulsar
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Haha great, thanks ❤️

balmy condor
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add debuff to blacklist

spice spire
gilded oasis
junior pulsar
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Oh was actually on the path of trying that. Great!

gilded oasis
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lil bro doesnt want to see iron wire? BUT THE DOPAMINE HITS

gilded oasis
gilded oasis
spice spire
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No SoCute

gilded oasis
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worth a shot

storm forum
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I think I'm taking my rogue to reclear next week. How do I play DTB? Or should I count on our burst classes being cracked and the fights to all end in 40 seconds and just keep playing KB?

junior pulsar
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For some reason it looks like i have 2 numbers counting simultaneously down on each debuff, anyone know why?

storm osprey
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addon prob

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plus the cooldown tracking in settings

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who knowssssss

junior pulsar
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Hmm yea, i dont have it ticked in settings, which i thought would be why

gilded oasis
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yeah its usually conflicting countdown addons. usually your nameplate + something else.

storm osprey
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might be a plater setting

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yeah

junior pulsar
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Omni cc addon was the problem 🙂

storm osprey
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ah makes sense, i disabled that a long time ago lol

gilded oasis
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usually that one causing that issue 🙂

junior pulsar
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Havent played Sin in ages, all the other specs i played, dot management was indifferent mostly. So just preparing for next patch. There must be someway of making your dots animate/flash when close to expiring?

storm forum
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There's a few addons/WAs that can do that for you

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Fly plate buffs is what I use and it makes DoTs in pandemic a little dimmer

slate crown
vivid swallow
junior pulsar
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Thanks Miscin, i ended up just uninstalling omni cc and using the in-game setting instead, worked aswell. Good to know 🙂

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Actually thought I could make the dots animate when expiring through the Plater addon. Dont like the look of most WA's

vivid swallow
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anyone know of a way to add a condition to a weak aura bar when the garrote was casted with the improved garrote buff? tried a couple diferrent ways but nothing is working very well

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i have it white like this for when its in pandemic but just want the same thing but green or something for when its empowered

sweet dawn
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you could probably copy the conditions and stuff over

vivid swallow
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yea i tried to mimc the luxthos icon one but couldnt get it funcitonal

slate crown
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It's not something that you can just condition

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You have to do tracking with custom code

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It's an icon tho, not a progress bar

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You could probably convert it to progress bar, but you'd have to think about some things like how to handle showing the cooldown vs the dot timer

vivid swallow
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thank you i will check this out

potent forge
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Are these new buffs from today's patch notes? Are we really getting more buffs? Does anyone have a breakdown of % increase overall or should I just calculate it myself?

slate crown
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Hello friend

slate crown
potent forge
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Thank you!

pure mauve
slim hedge
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So what changed, too dumb.

balmy condor
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Brother you gotta be a bit more specific

slate crown
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lmao

balmy condor
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You replied to a message from 3 months ago

forest crypt
slim hedge
runic hinge
slim hedge
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All good

forest crypt
slim hedge
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You can ban me now

balmy condor
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Bro i have no idea what you’re on about

haughty flicker
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lmao

earnest remnant
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shame on you

balmy condor
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Wait

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That was

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A YEAR AND THREE MONTHS AGO

haughty flicker
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wait

balmy condor
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That’s 2022

tough gorge
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Some ppl are good at holding grudges

haughty flicker
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unhinged

balmy condor
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Kingsbane didn’t even snapshot back then cause nightstalker wasn’t working

slim hedge
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Talent not working

balmy condor
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They only fixed nightstalker 9 months after that

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And by then kingsbane was bad

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And then shadow dance sucked

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At least your name checks out

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Cause whateven

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I don’t even understand what you’re mad about tbh

slim hedge
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Basically, I watched your recent video, and had a flash back to that. Remembered you were just a dick about it. I don't really care who wants to take your side, because ultimately, all you had to do back then was not be a cunt tbh so

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Cya

balmy condor
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????

haughty flicker
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super villain origin story level shit going on

forest crypt
balmy condor
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Bros pinging me cause the game is different 15 months later

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My bad

haughty flicker
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imagine living so rent free in someones head that they come back 15 months later to call you a dick

balmy condor
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We had a pin back then with experimental builds and people came in constantly talking about snapshotting when it wasn’t a thing

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Just don’t take everything so personally idk

earnest remnant
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cursed timeline whispyr

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sub's rupture now does like 2x assa rupture

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🙂

balmy condor
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@slim hedge sincerely though, whiplash from this aside and reading back over it a couple of time. It wasn’t really aimed at you specifically at the time, but If it bothered you that much to remember it this long after, I am sorry. I do poke fun at people, all the time, for all sorts stuff, but it’s not meant to be mean spirited or evil or whatever you would like to call it. Regardless of the intention, my words came across as a personal attack to you, and you shouldn’t have to feel that way. Hope getting it off your chest gave you some closure, have a good rest of your day

balmy condor
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And that one is mean spirited

earnest remnant
balmy condor
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That’s just internal bleeding on crack what

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We can’t even have internal bleeding?

earnest remnant
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100k every 2 sec for 16 sec

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that can crit 🙂

balmy condor
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Dumb

earnest remnant
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and it snapshots

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so cringe af

balmy condor
shy pecan
balmy condor
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Maybe they’d accept it in a dm

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We’ll try

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Probably have me blocked though

slow needle
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Or is it just not updating for me?

balmy condor
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Probably not updating

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Idk

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Discord sucks at that

runic hinge
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He still watching your YouTube vids making you money. Just mad af about it.

balmy condor
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nah I mean it could've come off as a personal thing

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I get it

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I poke fun at stuff, people think I'm being mean, I'm just having a good time

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just internet text chat things

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isn't the first time, won't be the last

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is what it is

haughty flicker
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this isnt the first time someone has called you a dick because of a comment from 15 months prior?

runic hinge
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I just assume your tone is incredulous at all times and it never comes off as mean

haughty flicker
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i mean he mightve just been having a bad day or something, i can understand it

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just a bit weird

balmy condor
balmy condor
royal lantern
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what do you think

vocal oracle
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please remind me, which boots are we going with in 10.2

balmy condor
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toxic thorn, but I'm still checking some other combos

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slimy is off the table though

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losing the haste is a deal breaker

vocal oracle
gilded oasis
balmy condor
shy pecan
ember mural
gilded oasis
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Open parentheses jk ofc close parentheses

drifting cloud
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(unless)

gilded oasis
static coral
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is it worth upgrading gear still or just waiting for new reagent and crafting from scratch?

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mainly asking in regards to weapon

shy pecan
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If you can craft something and have extra resources, it just means you have a 447 going into 10.2

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Though (and don't quote me on this), you might be able to find some items near 447 from questing in the new zone?

storm forum
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i wish i was at blizzcon so whispyr would choke me

shy pecan
ember mural
balmy condor
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I mean if someone walks up to me and asks me to choke them

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I'm gonna do it

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but HUHHH

gilded oasis
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Man

drifting cloud
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booking a ticket

gilded oasis
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I hope wowgrandma asks you

shy pecan
gilded oasis
haughty flicker
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please

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please

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someone go to blizzcon and do that

gilded oasis
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I'm going but I'm not that degen

ember mural
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need a whispyr live stream on twitch walking around blizzcon choking people

gilded oasis
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Unless I'm drunk maybe

storm forum
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and make sure ur filming without sound so it seems like whispyr just choked you for no reason and we can get him cancelled

gilded oasis
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And I actually knew whispyr more

balmy condor
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maybe a couple drinks and you would know me more

ember mural
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buy him a vodka red bull

balmy condor
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do not

ember mural
balmy condor
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I am fine drinking welch's grape juice

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like a 4 year old

storm forum
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the finest wines it is

balmy condor
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me and alcohol do not mix

gilded oasis
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I only offer cookies

balmy condor
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are the special cookies

gilded oasis
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I'll be the idiot walking around with 200 cookies cause I brought them but had 0 plans and parties this year to bring them to

gilded oasis
balmy condor
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lame

gilded oasis
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You're lame

shy pecan
balmy condor
haughty flicker
gilded oasis
spice spire
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Do not give whispyr alcohol

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He calls me Diet Pepsi when you give him alcohol

balmy condor
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give me weed though

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I've never done one weed

spice spire
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Yeah vouch

balmy condor
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but I'm sure it'll be perfectly fine

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and I will have no interesting side effects

spice spire
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Surely

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Just gonna preemptively tell zine to get well soon

balmy condor
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@rigid mango what are you even up to these days mr sir

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these used to be your stomping grounds

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what happened

spice spire
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He got sick

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With the league addiction smoge

rigid mango
rigid mango
spice spire
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(It’s both of us)

rigid mango
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🤝

spice spire
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🤝

rigid mango
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It’s late go to bed man

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It’s way past your bed time

spice spire
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Yeah okay and?

rigid mango
spice spire
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Had dinner with friends for a friend’s birthday

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Mad?

rigid mango
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Bro had to say friends twice just to make it sound believable

spice spire
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There’s an apostrophe in one bozo

rigid mango
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Yeah ok nice deflect

spice spire
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How about you deflect DN buddy?

rigid mango
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Was gonna post degen shit but aint the place is it

spice spire
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Nah otherwise I’m gonna have to actually delete stuff catattack

rigid mango
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I don’t post that kinda stuff peepoPolicestop

spice spire
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Never

rigid mango
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Not in here

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I am nice kind and appropriate

spice spire
rigid mango
forest crypt
blazing jewel
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@rigid mango zyn check

eternal heath
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Man I forgot how bad rogue feels at lower levels and in timewalking

balmy condor
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sudden demise helps a ton with that in 10.2

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but yeh

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rn it's gigashit

eternal heath
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I am just working on leveling and good god it feels bad

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Had a blast with ele shaman until later levels

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Was looking into rogue for 10.2 since we were apparently low on melee for raid

rotund oak
shy pecan
rotund oak
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ppl being able to learn stuff is priceless

balmy condor
lofty tiger
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Yo, been gearing my rogue in prep to witch mains next season.
But I'm a bit unsure whether to make my crafted embelished gear now, or to wait for the new patch/season to drop then make it with new mats.. what would you guys suggest?

balmy condor
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you'll have to make it with new mats next patch regardless of what you do now

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just for the item level

lofty tiger
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So it's probably worth saving the gold and just crafting them fresh next patch?

balmy condor
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if golds a concern, then yeah

lofty tiger
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Gold is always a concern 😄 ty 🙂

fickle latch
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Hello can someone link me a good minimalist Assassination Plater Profile if possible, thanks.

gusty breach
rigid mango
outer cairn
fickle latch
latent copper
little moth
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so ive done the raid on normal and heroic for the last 4 weeks in a row and no trinkets have even dropped what dungeon trinkets should i farm in the mean time>

grave tide
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anyone for a link to Fuus spreadsheet? cant find it for looking

spice surge
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
spice surge
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But its also not updated rn

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So its not really helpful to link it OMEGAKEKW

grave tide
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its fine, i want it for later

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thanks ❤️

gusty mirage
grave tide
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how we looking for crafted gear in the next patch? we sticking with the same or changing? whats the thinking so far? got 2 rogues to pick from and one has current crafted already..

spice surge
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Whatever you have crafted right now has very little impact on the next season

grave tide
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ok so fine to crack on with my OG brill.

spice surge
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Since

  • A. You can get effectively infinite amount of this season's sparks
  • B. New season has new sparks anyway
somber garden
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I'm new to assassination and had a question. The opener for sepsis for assassination says you want to save your 2nd sepsis buff to reapply the garrote. However when i try to do that mutilate consumes the sepsis buff. Am I doing something wrong or have things changed?

grave tide
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youre a legend, thanks @spice surge

velvet bridge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
viral meadow
somber garden
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no, just the basegame mutilate on my bar

viral meadow
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Does the action bar change when you gain the sepsis buff? I can’t remember I don’t have stealth paging on.

gusty mirage
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it does

viral meadow
somber garden
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omg yes thats it. My stealth and out of stealth bars are identical except for the fact that i put ambush where mutilate is

gusty mirage
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aren't you glad action bar paging isn't an option to disable?

somber garden
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okay i can fix that. Thank you lol that makes so much sense now

gusty mirage
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need to download custom action bars for it

viral meadow
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I would put ambush on a totally different keybind including in stealth

gusty mirage
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^

somber garden
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i was so lost trying to figure out where the hell my buff kept going and if i was missing something crucial about mutilate

gusty mirage
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nah you just got bamboozled by action bar paging

somber garden
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luckily i did that part already, just wasnt smart enough to not place it in mutilates spot

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i appreciate the help. I dont want to think about how long that realization wouldve taken on my own

viral meadow
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Should only matter until 10.2. I think we’ll be able to remove ambush completely on sin bars anyway then

keen spruce
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i actually improved a few it's a christmas miracle

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it just took like

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several PIs every fight

earnest remnant
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puny assault numbers

blazing jewel
earnest remnant
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shape up buddy

blazing jewel
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Did you say pi

keen spruce
keen spruce
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and can scam PIs on occasion

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u just gotta bribe them with like

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poptarts

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n stuff

subtle tundra
keen spruce
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just don't look at the sark one

drifting cloud
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scana already blocked you when you wrote pi

blazing jewel
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No shmeeps too handsome and powerful to block

outer cairn
spice spire
sweet dawn
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You get not only any PI... BUT SEVERAL?!

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What I'd give to taste PI

gusty mirage
green pulsar
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Does anyone feel extremely weak this week thus far in Mythic+? Ive just done 3 21's, BH i got 150k Overall, Neltharus i got 92k overall and FH i got 118k overall, zero deaths, no Evoker buff's just flat damage and i feel like im slowly slipping, getting worse every week, 443ilvl, 38% crit, 12% haste, 60% mastery, 9% verse, No beacon but Loaded Dice and Domb Dispenser. Anyone else in same boat? Also has Indiscriminate Carnage always been capped at 8 targets or am i having a mind blank?

green apex
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Can I play Wound* poison this week or just stick Outlaw?

balmy condor
balmy condor
green apex
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Thought so but wasn't sure, ty 🙂

balmy condor
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Np

green pulsar
vernal spruce
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Can someone tell me where to find the plater option for highlighting the border for Pandemic on debuffs like so

balmy condor
vernal spruce
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ty vm, do you have an import sting for that? doesnt exist in standard plater

balmy condor
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weird

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this should work

vernal spruce
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thanks 🙂

balmy condor
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np

serene fossil
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is there an easy way to give my garrote wa a glow or smth if its an improved garrote so i dont have to track in my head?

rotund oak
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tracks ur garrote EMP'd or regular and ss'd

serene fossil
rotund oak
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if u open the wago link it has the conditions screenshooted

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dunno ifu can custom that into ur wa but its there

serene fossil
vivid swallow
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you wont be able to copy and paste the triggers/conditions from that one to a different already existing one

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its easier to use that already working one as the base and make the edits you want

rotund oak
vivid swallow
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what are you trying to chang about it?

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change

rotund oak
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idk,personally i found it pretty cool as it is

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so i just grabbed as it is

vivid swallow
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yea it works fine as is, i changed it to a bar with border pixel glow for empower cause i find it easier to see quickly

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as opposed to the color changing text

rotund oak
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yeah u can do that ig

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but its there once u override the pandemic its obv u have an emp garrote

serene fossil
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im using a package and wanted to just incorporate a glow/text change into it instead of yeeting the one in the package and then putting another one where the old one was

vivid swallow
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not sure how to do that, empower garrote requires custom code to track properly and i couldnt find a way to make it copy over properly with just copying conditions and triggers

rotund oak
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yes exactly

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if u are not familiar with coding u prolly cant custom it

vivid swallow
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seems easier to just mimic the position and display settings of the one you have, stick it in the package, and delete the old one

rotund oak
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idk tbh,this WA just made me even more happy about playing sin this tier for raids

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cant wait to raid

serene fossil
rotund oak
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to see how it functions

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dont expect anything,jsut check the glow

vivid swallow
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thats gonna be in the triggers somewheer probably

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i its loaded for sure

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if*

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in the trigger 1: aura, drop show on to always

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its default to aura found i think

serene fossil
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then it pops up once i use it

vivid swallow
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On not at my pc so cant screen shot but im pretty sure if you change the trigger 1 “show on” drop down to always, that will fix it

serene fossil
rotund oak
serene fossil
vivid swallow
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is the whole group hiding when you have no target or just the garrote

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cause the garrote by itself will always show once you change tht drop down

serene fossil
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also it doesnt show the cd of garrote unlike the old one but well, its not like thats an issue usually

vivid swallow
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so its something with the group

serene fossil
vivid swallow
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Yea you will need a separate trigger for that, that wa only tracks the aura

serene fossil
vivid swallow
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which pack are you using?

serene fossil
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devlin

vivid swallow
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checking show when unit does not exist will fix it disappearing

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same place as the show on drop down

serene fossil
vivid swallow
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now the cooldown problem im not sure, i think something in the custom code is not letting it show even with a separate trigger

serene fossil
vivid swallow
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it doesnt, i added one though and it still doesnt work

serene fossil
slate crown
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what's the WA issue?

vivid swallow
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cant get this empower garrote WA to track CD

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it only tracks the aura and a normal CD trigger doesnt seem to work for some reason

serene fossil
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giving it a smol number top right corner would be enough already

rotund oak
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u can just make a smol custom wa next to this to track it if u want ,not icon,jsut a big fat number count

slate crown
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I will take a look, my empowered tracker has the Cd tracked on it if you want that in the meantime

rotund oak
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its the one im currently using

slate crown
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Yup, that's why I said "in the meantime", going to look at that one too

serene fossil
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if its no effort for your id like you to throw it here

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tyy

slate crown
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Links to others in the wago too

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I was able to get that other one to show a Cd too, just added a CD trigger, placed it into trigger 2's position, added a text with %2.p, made conditions to show the text when trigger 2 on cooldown and desaturate or whatever else

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Let me know if you want more details on updating that other one specifically or if you're just content with mine, all g

serene fossil
slate crown
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Glad to hear it 🙂

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lmk if you have any questions, I'm generally here chatting

serene fossil
slate crown
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Action glow is also pandemic

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white action glow = unempowered pandemic, which will not show up if it's currently empowered

serene fossil
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yeah thats what i saw from hitting dummy for 10 minutes

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love it ngl

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do you have the whole thing available in one pack?

slate crown
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White action glow is intended to say "It's safe to cast"

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Which also, btw, shows up if your current is empowered, and your next is empowered, and your current one is in pandemic (but empowered)

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It will show blue then, because you can pandemic your empowered

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This last point is less important in 10.2 because of how we sequence garrote

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But in 10.1 with sepsis it's helpful for me at least

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I have a link to the whole pack in the screenshot but it's not a fully released pack, I'm still making adjustments near daily. The standalone auras linked out from Garrote and a few others I have public because I feel fine about them.

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Also the full pack has some adjustments that don't work perfectly for 10.1 because of Talent changes

serene fossil
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aight, gotta grab the whole thing when the full 10.2 version is up and running 😄

slate crown
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If you want it, knowing it's being frequently updated, here's my personal backup wago for the whole pack. Also it's not exactly intended as perfect for everyone, it's just my personal pack the way I like it but people were asking so if you want it you can use it too. Wago is marked as hidden for now https://wago.io/s2JVzLWHs

Pack of standard trackers. I focused on information important for making decisions, and try to not display purely inform

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(Also it has way more focus on Assassination (and slightly less on Sub), and not much focus on getting fancy stuff for OTL, as I mostly main assassination)

serene fossil
serene fossil
cerulean nest
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do we know how much our keystones are dropping when next patch hits?

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next week is the last week to get one done right?

thorny aurora
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Hey I don't understand how you play the cds right after the opener
Do you just use it on cooldown at 1m30, use improved garrote on both stealthed abilities, and simply vanish garrote right before going in deathmark?

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I've read faq but i still can't figure it out

keen spruce
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so on a normal fight you don't vanish in the opener

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your 1:30 sepsis refreshes your garrote with empowered

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then the 2nd part of sepsis you garrote again in pandemic

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and that will run through the start of deathmark

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then vanish garrote during deathmark in pandemic

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to keep the empowered garrote running

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at 4m you can either delay your DM a bit to line up with vanish or just send it and lose a bit of empowered garrote time

thorny aurora
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hmmm i think my mistake is that i'm not consuming sepsis with garrote on the second time

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does mutilate consume the buff ?

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or only ambush/garrote?

spice surge
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Only ambush or garrote

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But if you have ambush in the same spot as your mutilate button on your stealth bar

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That would do it

thorny aurora
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ok so it might be because i have ambush as a replacement for mutilate in my stealth bar

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i guess that's useless right anyway?

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you always want to garrote out of stealth as ass

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and not ambush, correct?

gusty mirage
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yeah currently you never want to ambush w/ the sepsis proc

keen spruce
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now i'm runnin 2 bomb on sark Stare

spice surge
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Truly a hero

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Sacrificing his parse for the greater good of the guild

thorny aurora
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thanks for the answers! last question, does blindside ambush procs consume sepsis?

drifting cloud
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no

thorny aurora
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oh that's great, thanks!

cobalt hemlock
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yo when do you guys recommend to use cloak or feint in M sark p3

keen spruce
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cloak is kind of free use

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unles you're getting a meteor

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then save it for that

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feint duress dispells

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and soaks

cobalt hemlock
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alright thanks!

keen spruce
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someone had to leave so we just called raid/tier

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now i get to watch football

flint tusk
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omg finally

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Neltharion mythic done. second tier 1 off full mythic clear.
for some reason guild got gigahardstuck

keen spruce
#

last 2 bosses are pretty finickey

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not a lot has to go wrong to wipe

flint tusk
#

Ye, was super frustrating we got a 0.5% wipe tonight also then getting hard stuck at the end of P1 >.< like HWAIKNRAKWNR

keen spruce
#

been there despajj

flint tusk
#

indeed. my parse is uhm yeh. it's proper sad being top 3 for all of the pulls then get deep in p3 and people just blow me up xD

keen spruce
#

hard to parse on that fight on prog cuz you're just cranking the boss in p3

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once we recleared I was RPing as a sub rogue just ripping fan

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almost the entirety of p3

blazing jewel
#

sending this to your raid lead in 4k

onyx sandal
#

Sin doesn't have any m+ prepull abilities, right?

vivid swallow
#

the only one is indiscriminate carnage as far as i know, and thats gone in 10.2

wild beacon
#

Stealth starege

rotund oak
#

oh wait thats outlaw

wet agate
#

when everything you do = outlaw

rotund oak
#

u r so wrong

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its trolling period

magic meadow
#

was it ever explained why we wear kingsbane on the back instead of on the side of the pants like other daggers? It looks very strange...

blazing jewel
#

WE WILL BE POWER INFUSING @keen spruce ROGUE

spice spire
blazing jewel
grim jay
#

Its one of the things people like about it starege

vestal wren
magic meadow
grim jay
#

The position is just a bit off if you talk average daggers

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And carrying a dagger in the ingame back carry position would actually be more practical than the swords, even the 1h ones. How it looks is subjective tho

magic meadow
#

that looks good..

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wth is that

#

This just looks totally out of place....

grim jay
#

You probably have the worst class visually for that aswell tho kekdog

magic meadow
#

i seriously love the dagger but not on the back :c

#

In my opinion, there should be options for how you want to hold the weapons. Whether at the side or at the back.

grim jay
#

That has been requested for ages

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Maybe one day it will be possible starege

magic meadow
#

and that the undead get a straight back :V

rotund oak
#

outdated

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try something better

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way better wpn mogs

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like the ones from SoD

magic meadow
#

SoD?

rotund oak
#

sanctum of domination

grim jay
magic meadow
rotund oak
#

think its from old hillsbrad

grim jay
#

Which sanctum dagger looks good kekdog

magic meadow
#

sanctum dagger looks like swords..

rotund oak
#

the red ones are dope

magic meadow
grim jay
#

Nah no way

rotund oak
#

much better than those u are using

#

10/10

magic meadow
#

so you love swords ofc

rotund oak
#

i love everything that makes sense

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try sinister revenge

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if u want daggers

magic meadow
#

dagger that looks like swords? 😄

rotund oak
#

u can also so for the leggo daggers 2nd stage iirc

#

the red ones

grim jay
#

Challenge Mode dagger is fire

rotund oak
#

peasants 😄

royal lantern
#

the game where daggers are swords

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swords are claymores

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and a 2hand sword is a chunk of metal

rotund oak
#

1st person to actually reckongnize that

magic meadow
#

that is why i love Blade of Brutal Sacrifice / Fallen Warlord's Mindcarver/ Ruinous Gutripper

grim jay
#

The SoO heirloom dagger was kinda cool aswell

royal lantern
#

legit the only dagger in the entire game that looks like a dagger

#

sadly cant use it anymore cus faction locked :c

lime raptor
#

new to assasins and didn't find this info on internet is it possible to macro mutilate to swap with ambush if it procs out of stealth proc?

vestal wren
#

it is

#

!bs

prisma monolithBOT
#

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
This should be seen as a "lazy" option, and is not recommended. It can be hard to control and requires a third-party macro addon to expand the games base functionality. We recommend ALWAYS keybinding ambush (either with a modifier, or an entirely different key)
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

vestal wren
#

but

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you don't need to do this at all in 10.2

#

because it will automatically change

lime raptor
#

omg

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nice

vestal wren
#

big qol

blazing jewel
magic meadow
#

something like this should be homemade by blizzard in my opinion. Something like this is worth its weight in gold

vestal wren
#

well, it is a work around

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and it is far from perfect

#

as mentioned, 10.2 will add a home brew option

magic meadow
#

but it makes things a lot easier instead of the blunt macro game from blizzard

vestal wren
#

thats why its added in 10.2

#

it is a qol change with no downside

magic meadow
vestal wren
#

yes

magic meadow
#

Would be practical to use at sub with cold blood and sectec or shuriken storm with shuriken tornado

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or thistle tea with symbols of death..

vestal wren
#

you can macro cold blood and secret technique on subtelty

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i don't think thats a problem

#

subtlety is a bit outside of the scope of this channel

#

but tornado by iteself is poorly designed

magic meadow
#

yes just came into my mind

vestal wren
#

i think flagellation and tornado serve similar purposes

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and tornado is bad for player feedback

#

it has a lot of edge cases it works not intuitively (like not getting cp from shadowblades)

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the first cast is delayed and the window to use finisher is tight

#

a lot of things to fail/learn, for a spell with mediocre impact

#

for tea, it comes down to the energy economy of the spec

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i am not sure how complex it is for assassinaiton in 10.2

#

but i remember outlaw did use tea mostly for the mastery buff

#

tea can be interessting as a talent but always depends on the energy economy and if the economy is good it becomes a lot less fun of a key to play around.

royal lantern
slate crown
#

It is still used for energy

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But in 10.2 the energy economy is more prominent

#

So same tool same purpose, different environment

vagrant obsidian
#

!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
hard gazelle
#

I’m going to hop into the mage tower finally but I have seen two different builds. One focuses on AP and the other on IC with DTB. Anyone have experience on which one they would recommend? Seems like FoK spam is pretty common with both?

outer cairn
#

I think the strat from Legion still applies. Basically just keep your bleeds up while dealing with the BS. Think the time to finish it is a little tighter now. Can’t remember.

thick sail
#

Shuriken Tornado, to me, does not feel good to use

outer cairn
#

welp. no ce for me this tier. feels so good to have put in that much time and effort for nothing while the rest of the team got it

gilded oasis
#

😦

#

such a feelsbad

storm forum
#

My guild actually got everyone CE on the reclear this time. Usually someone ends up missing the reclear(s), or there isn't time for one.

outer cairn
#

if it wasn't my first then it is what it is, but yeah, bad feels

thick sail
#

Don't feel bad. My GF and I were shooting for Keystone Hero this season. She's non-competitive though and only ever wanted to do 1-2 dungeons a week. We only made it to 2415

#

And I was doing as the most cursed M+ spec in the game, assassination. We only did PUGs, and assassination seemed not very good for PUGs

outer cairn
#

Sin is fine for pugs and easy to get KSH with. Not to diminish your effort but a bit of a different scale

gilded oasis
#

idk if I would call it the most cursed m+ spec grumpSquirrel2

runic hinge
#

I had a lot of fun with in m+ but I’m weird so

rough creek
#

Need some help on stat %. I'm curently 43 Crit 3 Haste 63 Mastery 15 Vers. Is this pretty well rounded or should i be looking to cutback on something and add to another? Thanks for any help.

drifting cloud
#

item level is the best stat, just sim topgear and dont even look at the actual %

keen spruce
rough creek
#

Ok thanks, just wasn’t sure if I should play around and balance it.

keen spruce
#

i mean there probably some optimization

#

just sim your character to find those small improvements though

#

not something we could answer for you

shut owl
bold temple
shut owl
#

Our tier set this season is much juicier than last for it I feel like

thick sail
#

@outer cairn try doing 1 M+ a week in all PUGs with your girlfriend tanking -- who barely wants to even be playing wow -- and see if you can hit KSH

#

It basically feels like mythic raiding

outer cairn
#

you could do keys on your own too

thick sail
#

Oh

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That's the other stipulation

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We met in wow and when she moved in, we vowed never to play without each other

#

So no

#

We have the exact same M+ rating lol

#

It's quite exciting doing up to a +18 only to find out she in fact had not been tanking a boss correctly all the runs prior and now we can't actually time the run because we can't kill the boss because she doesn't know how to do Underrot's last two bosses (I guess we were just facerolling up to that point)

#

Then that's our run for the week, hopefully we get that key next week. Except we won't see that dungeon for another 3 weeks, and by then she's forgotten lol

slow needle
#

I mean, if that is the situation then its not about the specs you played.

#

And shouldn't even warrant a mention.

#

You just didn't play the game.

thick sail
#

For perspective, I do about 20k more DPS as Subtlety, so it seems like it's worth a mention. If I'd been playing sub, the times we barely missed the timer (for whatever reason), we probably would've made it.

#

I like the playstyle and the class fantasy of assassination, but in M+ this season it was pretty cursed

slow needle
#

It was easily capable of doing much higher keys than 18s though sooo Dracthyr_shrug

thick sail
#

I mean, sure, but let's see someone in 443 gear PUG and time a +28 in assassination gear

#

I'm not sure pugging a +28 without voice com is even possible

slow needle
#

I'm sure it is.

thick sail
#

You seriously think that someone can PUG a +28 without voice com as assassination is possible when 28 is the highest key anyone has ever done this season as assassination

#

Fascinating take

slow needle
#

Not sure which region you're in but I know someone who was pugging around 26s/27s without coms.

slow needle
#

And you doesn't specific pugging a +28 as assassination without coms.

#

Just a +28.

slow needle
earnest remnant
#

you can 4sure do a 28 UR in a pug as Assa without comms

slow needle
#

Which made 28s easier than the 27s.

thick sail
#

Oh, I see. You didn't read it as though it was a comment directly from my previous comment

#

My bad, yeah, I meant as assassination

slow needle
#

I did.

grim tangle
slow needle
#

But I read it as a 'I don't this specific circumstance is possible. I'm not sure this slightly more generalised form is even possible which further illustrates the fact that the specific one isn't possible either'.

thick sail
#

Yeah, fair, poorly worded on my part

earnest remnant
slow needle
#

But its definitely possible.

#

People do 28s all the time with comms.

thick sail
#

@earnest remnant can you do it with your girlfriend tanking though when she doesn't know how to tank the last two bosses though lol

slow needle
#

Well, all the time relative to the amount of people still doing 28s.

earnest remnant
#

i made the wise choice to not play video games with my partner

#

so i dont have to suffer

thick sail
#

I'm too old and I don't have the shotcalling braincells I had 20 years ago. I tried researching her role as tank, but as a non-tank, I just can't

earnest remnant
#

yeah not shot she gets me to play that

thick sail
#

I just started solo queueing for PvP while she runs around and collects treats for the holiday event so I can feel like I'm achieving something

#

Without a trinket

#

Or PvP gear

austere fulcrum
#

@keen spruce

thick sail
#

This late in the season

slow needle
#

If she doesn't want to play the game but you do.

#

Why not just talk to her?

#

And come to an agreement that you shouldn't be stopped from doing things because of her general lack of interest.

slow needle
#

Then the rage starts to seep in.

#

And then the toxicity.

#

And then you have cheaper holidays.

thick sail
#

It's a fair point. She actually told me she felt bad she's holding me back and I can queue for M+ solo, but then I felt sad and guilty, and didn't want to hit that benchmark without her. So, shrug

#

It's just a number

#

It's fine guys. IT'S FINE 😎

earnest remnant
#

id rather repeatedly have my pinky toe get caught on the leg of a table when i walk past

slow needle
#

That can be arranged Mr Stealthi.

keen spruce
earnest remnant
#

i absolutely despise valorant

slow needle
#

Is it a game issue or a community issue?

earnest remnant
#

game

slow needle
#

Ahh fair enough.

earnest remnant
#

i couldnt care less about the people playing it

#

i grew up playing CoD league and CS:GO

#

so

#

i might be a part of the problem LOL

slow needle
# thick sail It's fine guys. IT'S FINE 😎

Well if you're fine with how things are then fair enough. Sounds to me like she doesn't really wanna do it but is willing to at least do a bit with you which is cool on her part.

#

Yeah I have to steer myself away from competitive PvP games.

#

I dunno what it is about PvE in WoW but I'm much happier to not be constantly stressing about becoming better. Can't do that with competitive games with MMR.

#

Not to say I don't want to improve, I just don't feel stress over it.

warm void
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
chilly viper
#

!logs

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

chilly viper
#

Seems like we can't ask for log reviews anymore, but is there something I could've done better this pull?

#

or done something wrong

#

except the extra garotte at the start

spice spire
#

It’s minimal sequencing stuff

#

But you’re only competing against speed clears

chilly viper
#

I don’t understand the snapshot part thio

keen spruce
#

if you use a normal garrote

#

it overwrites you empowered garrote

#

so you need to let empowered garrotes run down to 0

chilly viper
#

Garrote from sepsis = empowered ?

keen spruce
#

yes

chilly viper
#

Or from vanish

keen spruce
#

both

vapid skiff
#

from stealth empowered

#

the talent is when used from stealth, which you get from vanish and sepsis

chilly viper
#

Perfect, tyvm guys

vapid skiff
covert citrus
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
shut owl
#

My seasonal recap was vicious lol

balmy condor
#

it's uh

#

not an uncommon thing

shut owl
#

Uhoh

balmy condor
#

plenty of people never had an assa rogue alongside them

#

apparently

shut owl
#

Lol

shut owl
#

I'm gonna be responding in my guild only with gifs of Tigger

#

Join me, and we can confuse maybe 12 guilds, making them think we were actually feral the whole time

sonic zinc
#

why would u wanna be confused for feral

outer cairn
#

Happy Halloween

outer cairn
shut owl
#

I'm assuming its gonna say that for most rogues 😛

shut owl
outer cairn
#

I'm just looking forward to suprising the shit out of people on how well Sin performs in m+ now with the new kit

clever sapphire
#

assa gonna be the new meta im calling it, we replace fire mage in the god comp

#

now we want the pi and evoker buffs

outer cairn
#

idk about that, but waiting for people to see Sudden Demise proc on lower keys and be confused as shit

clever sapphire
#

people in lower keys dont even know whats happening, they are always confused

#

thats the secret

shut owl
#

I already surprise people with big numbers in keys. I'm excited, but also mildly anxious for next season lol

outer cairn
#

i wanted to get on ptr last night and actually test it all but no servers were up

#

put this tier behind me and focus on being one of the better sin rogues this next one

hollow girder
#

If i understand it correctly, assa will be viable again ? Maybe better than sub in pve in the next season?

clever sapphire
#

better? no idea, playable in every content? yes

hollow girder
leaden timber
#

when 10.2 hits will we be using kingsbane in any talents either for raid or m+?

brittle basin
#

kingsbabe is bis

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

I've played with every spec

#

and I did like 40% of the keys I normally do

#

yall aren't even trying are you

spice spire
#

I did about 40% of the keys I normally do too.
Only like 200 total this season

#

Usually that’s not even how much I do on my rogue

grim tangle
#

I did 58 keys :)

gilded oasis
#

I had low key count this season too sadgers

thorn fjord
#

Hi friends

#

I havent done a key since August lol

royal lantern
#

based

#

fuck shit+

thorn fjord
#

been nice since prog was finished... Just been hanging out playing other games

#

Spending time with friends and fam lol

fallen forge
thorn fjord
#

Oh recaps are up nice

#

Lets see this sillyness

#

lol

midnight mist
#

this is sin channel

#

what happened

thorn fjord
#

Im a simple man

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

Too bad it doesnt say what specs i ran in raid

#

Pretty sure i played more sin than sub in raid

cerulean nest
thorn fjord
#

For sure

cerulean nest
#

just dmed you ❤️

subtle tundra
#

and then sharted aswell

midnight mist
#

I see

#

Interesting

outer cairn
fallen forge
thorn fjord
#

Realz is PSH reencarnated

arctic hare
#

Hey Whispyr, how bad is the frenzying signal flare?

#

is it at least better than that other terrible trinket I ended up with?

#

Well, its simming better in Single target, but worse in AOE, hmm

spice spire
#

It’s not great

arctic hare
#

Well, I'll use it anyways

spice spire
#

Sims are accurate

arctic hare
#

I usually end up the ST burner anyways

spice spire
#

So if it’s better at

naive crane
#

is it safe to craft sporecloak now or wait for 10.2?

keen spruce
#

i mean you should have like 10000 sparks and crests

#

so idk i just made one jic

storm forum
#

IIRC, we wait. We only replace 447 toxic patch with max ilvl sporecloak

#

but that was like 3 ptr patch cycles ago so idk

#

but like, you could craft one now

#

cause the mats will be cheaper now than later early in the next patch

#

and then you only pay for recraft reagents?

thorn fjord
#

Our main work horse crafter quit the guild cause he got benched on sark 😑

#

So next tier is gonna really suck with all that

storm forum
#

our main warlock quit cause he didnt get benched on sark

gilded oasis
#

imagine getting declined for researchers event twice in a row

#

need big ilvl for this one I guess

storm forum
#

huh

outer cairn
#

Someone say they need a LW?

west swallow
#

I currently run quazii’s plater profile but I really like the way poisons and bleeds show up on targets in whispyrs, is there any way for me to like copy and paste that part into the plater I currently run?

balmy condor
#

but the rest is just debuff targetting

#

I have been looking at quazi's though

#

maybe I try to merge

west swallow
#

I’ve been using his since start of season two and I really like how he’s set up the different bars for m+. Also, hiya ❤️

balmy condor
#

hiya

storm forum
#

hiya

lime raptor
#

will assasination be good in m+?

balmy condor
#

Sure

lime raptor
#

better than now?

balmy condor
#

Yea

lime raptor
#

lower indiscriminate carnage cd?

#

or different build

spice spire
#

No CD?

balmy condor
#

Carnage doesn’t have a cd

spice spire
#

It’s a passive

lime raptor
#

fro mstealth?

balmy condor
#

Yes

lime raptor
#

used to be 45 cd?

#

now passivew?

#

holy

balmy condor
#

I would suggest maybe reading some stuff

#

If that’s a surprise to you

lime raptor
#

give me the book

balmy condor
#

You gotta lot to catch up on

#

I ain’t giving you a book

lime raptor
#

the papyrus

balmy condor
#

I’ve been releasing videos about all of this for weeks and there’s an entire channel dedicated to 10.2

#

You’ll figure it out

spice surge
#

Here you go Surebud

lime raptor
#

ok do you do better dmg to single target?

#

in m+

runic hinge
timber meadow
#

whats the diff between parse % and key %?

storm forum
#

whats key %?

timber meadow
#

thats what im wondering

#

its in M+ logs

mental flicker
gilded oasis
#

its prob like ilvl % in raid logs where it is just whatever?

storm forum
#

i have no idea

#

maybe key% is for that specific key and level (ie, 20 FH vs 18 FH) and Rank% is more broad?

delicate raft
#

maybe how much of the key was completed since raid logs have a % wipe but the same doesn’t apply

runic hinge
timber meadow
#

can you clarify that piece?

runic hinge
timber meadow
#

ha no worries, thx anyway

runic hinge
#

I have no idea what key% is at all

timber meadow
#

i always thought key % was how you did compared against other playrs of your spec in that key at that level

#

and the other was just like comparing all key levels of your spec

runic hinge
#

Maybe rank% is ranked against all assa rogues and key% is just that particular key level

timber meadow
#

so like for something like healing - you cant really compare somene who did a 12 vs. someone who did a 24 cause the person doing the 24 will always have higher hps

#

so key level is what you would use if you wanted to see how you did vs. other people doin a 12

timber meadow
#

what is rank % and what is key %

runic hinge
#

Blue parsing even in keys

timber meadow
#

so that would support my logic - you did really well against all assa rogues but when you narrow it down to just assa rogues that did 23 of wtvr key that is you would do slightly worse

runic hinge
#

Probably doesn’t help only 39 assa rogues have done a 23 uld or higher

timber meadow
#

right

#

exactly

runic hinge
#

Not many people to parse against

timber meadow
#

so i do think the one on the right is just comparing you against your spec at that specific key level

#

and on the left you're being compared against all assa rogues of this key for wtvr key level

runic hinge
#

Makes sense

runic hinge
#

That’s true

marble hemlock
#

many many people at the top-end dont log their runs

#

or at all levels, really

#

still great ❤️

runic hinge
#

Tbf there isn’t that many assa rogues with higher io

#

Maybe next patch there will be more

runic hinge
#

More assa rogues but maybe I push higher as well

grim tangle
#

yeah I'm going to try and push higher next patch too, I think if I really try I can reach 2.5k

spice spire
#

Based on what

haughty flicker
#

huehuehue

true drum
#

hey guys, why does ominous chromatic Essence (437) sims lower then elementium pocket anvil (437)? its abou 1k dps difference

void mesa
#

Double check if your OCE is simming with the other buffs, also fight duration favors the pocket anvil, but sim fights are for the most part longer. Outside these 2 factors, sim is right

true drum
#

ahh alright so thats why i may play with OCE and Harlans, even the Anvil sims higher ?:)

void mesa
#

Depends on what content you're doing and if your group has the other OCE

true drum
#

okay well normally m+

runic hinge
maiden ginkgo
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
indigo comet
#

anyone has single talent with nightstalker for sin?

woeful meteor
storm forum
runic hinge
#

And my guild stopped logging on to do keys

keen spruce
#

if i do every fort key on +31 i can get title smile_dog

runic hinge
#

ez pz

#

get after it

storm forum
#

go get 'em duck man

lime raptor
#

im doing it right?

#

xD beacon OP

storm forum
#

smh, bacon should be 100% of your damage

gusty mirage
#

how's that for a consolation

void mesa
keen spruce
storm forum
runic hinge
chilly viper
#

Let's say we have 6CP total, we're currently at 5cp and I need to refresh garrote, is it better to press garrote -> finisher @6cp or finisher @5 cp -> Garrote

#

Or doesn't matter (considering full energy and both would be in pandemic range)

#

I see myself doing the first option like 90% of the times and I'm wondering if I'm missing out on few envenoms in a let's say 5 minutes fight

slate crown
#

On 10.1 I don't think it matters much

#

I do the same

#

But on 10.2 you likely will want to do the latter

#

If you have enough CP to envenom finish, you want to and shift extra cp into the next envenom, you need to keep the chains going

#

(For the new tier set)

#

so probably an ok habit to break soon

chilly viper
#

right

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good point

storm forum
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I still can't believe that finish on any number of CP was almost an option

visual walrus
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@gusty mirage is this your client?

slate crown
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LMAO

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It has begun

gusty mirage
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your kind are on shaky ground here

visual walrus
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Side bar

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Show me proof and I'll make sure our council considers it

hexed willow
visual walrus
inner temple
hexed willow
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Damn

slate crown
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Yup, I almost sent it to raider discussion lol

inner temple
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lemme steal the glory!

soft shale
inner temple
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alright, submitted

runic hinge
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Someone needs to make a template so I can just fill in my own name

nimble tartan
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real

inner temple
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there yougo

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Power Infusion Bull Shit*

spice spire
# runic hinge Someone needs to make a template so I can just fill in my own name

Under recent developments discovered by Ravenholdt, also known as the Rogue Discord of Rh. It has come to my attention that rogue name will hereby be, going forward, the best target for Power Infusion.

With written agreement to all the following clauses, my client, hereby referred to as rogue name will consent to play Rogue in the guild your guild and any other name the guild may be known as in perpetually.

Clause 1
A dedicated player, “the Priest,” will be required to give Power Infusion to rogue name in each encounter. The Priest will be played in every encounter rogue name is played (so all encounters) as a means of boosting his/her DPS to astronomical numbers.

Clause 2
rogue name and the Priest will never be asked to “swap off boss” or “stop DPS”. Stopping damage or swapping off boss is never the correct decision.

Clause 3
rogue name and the Priest call first dibs on all major upgrades. This includes, but is not limited to, the following.

  • Trinkets
  • Tier
  • Weapons
  • Any item that is a higher item level

Clause 4
Upon completion of the tier, the terms of this agreement are complete, and the Priest may relinquish his/her Power Infusion for any target of their choosing.

I, have read and agree to all the above statements.
x (Signature)

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I typed this on my phone

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Sorry in advance

soft shale
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and at the end you put "the game"

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so that they lose

storm forum
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I feel like it would be easier to have somewhere to put your name once and then have you be referred to "the Rogue"

spice spire
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It’s a lot like bird law

inner temple
spice spire
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I hate myself?

inner temple
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understandable

storm forum
spice spire
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Bless up

spark scaffold
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!FUU

prisma monolithBOT
storm forum
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you can also do a find and replace for "the Rogue" to your name

runic hinge
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Trying to figure out how I get my signiture in there

storm forum
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no idea

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Oh, I should add "swap specs" to Clause 2

runic hinge
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You can add a drawing

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Under insert

royal lantern
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insert what

runic hinge
storm forum
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UwU

storm forum
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Oh no my guild has actual lawyers and they're reviewing the document

gusty mirage
naive crane
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somone got a good weakaura to track rupture/garrote?

upbeat maple
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I'm looking to get into Sin this patch
Is there a vid or somewhere to read up on "how to play" kinda thing with all the new changes?

spice spire
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Videos are also up on whispyr’s YouTube channel