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@spice spire hope you're having a good Friday
I refuse. I pray yours is going great and you have a great weekend (this is a threat)
ya Im baking 5 million cookies this weekend gonna be great
well Monday I guess. I'll count that as my weekend
whatcha cookin
There must be someway of removing weapon poisons from Plater bars right? trying to figure out why but no luck so far
Haha great, thanks ❤️
An entire weeks worth of meals

Oh was actually on the path of trying that. Great!
lil bro doesnt want to see iron wire? BUT THE DOPAMINE HITS
damn god speed
Bake these for me too ty
No 
worth a shot
I think I'm taking my rogue to reclear next week. How do I play DTB? Or should I count on our burst classes being cracked and the fights to all end in 40 seconds and just keep playing KB?
For some reason it looks like i have 2 numbers counting simultaneously down on each debuff, anyone know why?
Hmm yea, i dont have it ticked in settings, which i thought would be why
yeah its usually conflicting countdown addons. usually your nameplate + something else.
Omni cc addon was the problem 🙂
ah makes sense, i disabled that a long time ago lol
usually that one causing that issue 🙂
Havent played Sin in ages, all the other specs i played, dot management was indifferent mostly. So just preparing for next patch. There must be someway of making your dots animate/flash when close to expiring?
There's a few addons/WAs that can do that for you
Fly plate buffs is what I use and it makes DoTs in pandemic a little dimmer
Most weakaura packs come with glows when dots enter pandemic range (are close to expiring and are safe to refresh). It doesn't do so in the base UI anywhere, though
i think its that setting in plater
Thanks Miscin, i ended up just uninstalling omni cc and using the in-game setting instead, worked aswell. Good to know 🙂
Actually thought I could make the dots animate when expiring through the Plater addon. Dont like the look of most WA's
anyone know of a way to add a condition to a weak aura bar when the garrote was casted with the improved garrote buff? tried a couple diferrent ways but nothing is working very well
i have it white like this for when its in pandemic but just want the same thing but green or something for when its empowered
There's a few different WAs that track empowered garrote
you could probably copy the conditions and stuff over
yea i tried to mimc the luxthos icon one but couldnt get it funcitonal
here mine https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf
It's not something that you can just condition
You have to do tracking with custom code
It's an icon tho, not a progress bar
You could probably convert it to progress bar, but you'd have to think about some things like how to handle showing the cooldown vs the dot timer
thank you i will check this out
Are these new buffs from today's patch notes? Are we really getting more buffs? Does anyone have a breakdown of % increase overall or should I just calculate it myself?
Hello friend
It’s for 10.2
Head on over to #tww-assassination for more info 🙂 (See pins there)
Thank you!
Can you share your plater profile?
So what changed, too dumb.
lmao
You replied to a message from 3 months ago

Think its pretty obvious, but ya'know. Just a throwback to when you kind of responded like a dick to a question.

All good

You can ban me now
Bro i have no idea what you’re on about
lmao
you were mean to him 3 months ago
shame on you
wait
That’s 2022
Some ppl are good at holding grudges
Talent not working
They only fixed nightstalker 9 months after that
And by then kingsbane was bad
And then shadow dance sucked
At least your name checks out
Cause whateven
I don’t even understand what you’re mad about tbh
Basically, I watched your recent video, and had a flash back to that. Remembered you were just a dick about it. I don't really care who wants to take your side, because ultimately, all you had to do back then was not be a cunt tbh so
Cya
????
super villain origin story level shit going on

imagine living so rent free in someones head that they come back 15 months later to call you a dick
We had a pin back then with experimental builds and people came in constantly talking about snapshotting when it wasn’t a thing
Just don’t take everything so personally idk
@slim hedge sincerely though, whiplash from this aside and reading back over it a couple of time. It wasn’t really aimed at you specifically at the time, but If it bothered you that much to remember it this long after, I am sorry. I do poke fun at people, all the time, for all sorts stuff, but it’s not meant to be mean spirited or evil or whatever you would like to call it. Regardless of the intention, my words came across as a personal attack to you, and you shouldn’t have to feel that way. Hope getting it off your chest gave you some closure, have a good rest of your day
If you were at blizzcon I would choke you
And that one is mean spirited
proc a rupture 2p in dance and its a dot that does 1.1mil over 16 sec xD
Dumb
They left the server
Unlucky


He still watching your YouTube vids making you money. Just mad af about it.
nah I mean it could've come off as a personal thing
I get it
I poke fun at stuff, people think I'm being mean, I'm just having a good time
just internet text chat things
isn't the first time, won't be the last
is what it is
this isnt the first time someone has called you a dick because of a comment from 15 months prior?
I just assume your tone is incredulous at all times and it never comes off as mean
i mean he mightve just been having a bad day or something, i can understand it
just a bit weird
incredulous is such a good word
usually the backlash comes a bit quicker than that 
people called him a dick over comments he never made in the first place
what do you think

please remind me, which boots are we going with in 10.2
toxic thorn, but I'm still checking some other combos
slimy is off the table though
losing the haste is a deal breaker
thank you
Can I get that deal?



Open parentheses jk ofc close parentheses
(unless)

is it worth upgrading gear still or just waiting for new reagent and crafting from scratch?
mainly asking in regards to weapon
If you can craft something and have extra resources, it just means you have a 447 going into 10.2
Though (and don't quote me on this), you might be able to find some items near 447 from questing in the new zone?
i wish i was at blizzcon so whispyr would choke me


Man
booking a ticket
I hope wowgrandma asks you

Yo. I got a ticket you can buy kekw
I'm going but I'm not that degen
need a whispyr live stream on twitch walking around blizzcon choking people
Unless I'm drunk maybe
and make sure ur filming without sound so it seems like whispyr just choked you for no reason and we can get him cancelled
And I actually knew whispyr more
maybe a couple drinks and you would know me more
buy him a vodka red bull
do not

the finest wines it is
me and alcohol do not mix
I only offer cookies
I'll be the idiot walking around with 200 cookies cause I brought them but had 0 plans and parties this year to bring them to
Only specially made with love but no drug
lame
You're lame


I meant that full of love
Yeah vouch
@rigid mango what are you even up to these days mr sir
these used to be your stomping grounds
what happened
Me lift heavy circles and play cs

I’d take playing league over this ded game old man
One of us has crippling depression you old bitch
(It’s both of us)
🤝
🤝
Yeah okay and?

Bro had to say friends twice just to make it sound believable
There’s an apostrophe in one bozo
Yeah ok nice deflect
How about you deflect DN buddy?
Nah otherwise I’m gonna have to actually delete stuff 



Man I forgot how bad rogue feels at lower levels and in timewalking
I am just working on leveling and good god it feels bad
Had a blast with ele shaman until later levels
Was looking into rogue for 10.2 since we were apparently low on melee for raid
Love the new stuff uve done man 🔥
Something something banana something
ppl being able to learn stuff is priceless
ty
Yo, been gearing my rogue in prep to witch mains next season.
But I'm a bit unsure whether to make my crafted embelished gear now, or to wait for the new patch/season to drop then make it with new mats.. what would you guys suggest?
you'll have to make it with new mats next patch regardless of what you do now
just for the item level
So it's probably worth saving the gold and just crafting them fresh next patch?
if golds a concern, then yeah
Gold is always a concern 😄 ty 🙂
Hello can someone link me a good minimalist Assassination Plater Profile if possible, thanks.
i played both for a while, if you are really old, wow is better
You freaks ruined my snus
is it possible to combine this WA and Quazzi? the Pandemic Highlight and Deathmark/Kingsbane is very good
so ive done the raid on normal and heroic for the last 4 weeks in a row and no trinkets have even dropped what dungeon trinkets should i farm in the mean time>
anyone for a link to Fuus spreadsheet? cant find it for looking
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
dice from freehold & hourglass/mirror from the megadungeon are your best bets
how we looking for crafted gear in the next patch? we sticking with the same or changing? whats the thinking so far? got 2 rogues to pick from and one has current crafted already..
Whatever you have crafted right now has very little impact on the next season
ok so fine to crack on with my OG brill.
Since
- A. You can get effectively infinite amount of this season's sparks
- B. New season has new sparks anyway
But for more info check out #tww-assassination pins or ask questions
I'm new to assassination and had a question. The opener for sepsis for assassination says you want to save your 2nd sepsis buff to reapply the garrote. However when i try to do that mutilate consumes the sepsis buff. Am I doing something wrong or have things changed?
youre a legend, thanks @spice surge
!wa
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
Have you got ambush macrod into your mutilate at all?
no, just the basegame mutilate on my bar
Does the action bar change when you gain the sepsis buff? I can’t remember I don’t have stealth paging on.
it does
Maybe your ambush is in the same spot as mutilate
omg yes thats it. My stealth and out of stealth bars are identical except for the fact that i put ambush where mutilate is
okay i can fix that. Thank you lol that makes so much sense now
I would put ambush on a totally different keybind including in stealth
^
i was so lost trying to figure out where the hell my buff kept going and if i was missing something crucial about mutilate
nah you just got bamboozled by action bar paging
luckily i did that part already, just wasnt smart enough to not place it in mutilates spot
i appreciate the help. I dont want to think about how long that realization wouldve taken on my own
Should only matter until 10.2. I think we’ll be able to remove ambush completely on sin bars anyway then
i actually improved a few it's a christmas miracle
it just took like
several PIs every fight

puny assault numbers

shape up buddy
Did you say pi
i have befriended a white wizard
and can scam PIs on occasion
u just gotta bribe them with like
poptarts
n stuff
you have better logs than me!
scana already blocked you when you wrote pi
No shmeeps too handsome and powerful to block
That’s just a plater profile


Does anyone feel extremely weak this week thus far in Mythic+? Ive just done 3 21's, BH i got 150k Overall, Neltharus i got 92k overall and FH i got 118k overall, zero deaths, no Evoker buff's just flat damage and i feel like im slowly slipping, getting worse every week, 443ilvl, 38% crit, 12% haste, 60% mastery, 9% verse, No beacon but Loaded Dice and Domb Dispenser. Anyone else in same boat? Also has Indiscriminate Carnage always been capped at 8 targets or am i having a mind blank?
Can I play Wound* poison this week or just stick Outlaw?
Shouldn’t feel any weaker than a normal week, and yes, carnage has always been 8 targets
If you’re gonna ever play wound poison on Assassination you might as well just afk at the start of the key
Thought so but wasn't sure, ty 🙂
Np
Just feels like im a wet noodle, every weeks felt really good besides this one. Maybe im doing something wrong, ill check my spec again, i may have accidentally changed something. thank you
Can someone tell me where to find the plater option for highlighting the border for Pandemic on debuffs like so
ty vm, do you have an import sting for that? doesnt exist in standard plater
weird
this should work
thanks 🙂
np
is there an easy way to give my garrote wa a glow or smth if its an improved garrote so i dont have to track in my head?
im using this https://wago.io/Morc3MOxZ
tracks ur garrote EMP'd or regular and ss'd
do you happen to know what triggers and conditions i need to copy into my current one to make it do the same stuff?
hold on
if u open the wago link it has the conditions screenshooted
dunno ifu can custom that into ur wa but its there
i did the same trigger and condition that makes it change text color but doesnt work for smh, maybe i fd something up tho
you wont be able to copy and paste the triggers/conditions from that one to a different already existing one
its easier to use that already working one as the base and make the edits you want
i think u need to create one from scratch
yea it works fine as is, i changed it to a bar with border pixel glow for empower cause i find it easier to see quickly
as opposed to the color changing text
yeah u can do that ig
but its there once u override the pandemic its obv u have an emp garrote
im using a package and wanted to just incorporate a glow/text change into it instead of yeeting the one in the package and then putting another one where the old one was
not sure how to do that, empower garrote requires custom code to track properly and i couldnt find a way to make it copy over properly with just copying conditions and triggers
seems easier to just mimic the position and display settings of the one you have, stick it in the package, and delete the old one
idk tbh,this WA just made me even more happy about playing sin this tier for raids
cant wait to raid
did that now, last issue remaining is: it doesnt show up in the aura pack until i actually apply it (checked load already, has no restrictions)
can u make a smol clip of u testing it?
to see how it functions
dont expect anything,jsut check the glow
thats gonna be in the triggers somewheer probably
i its loaded for sure
if*
in the trigger 1: aura, drop show on to always
its default to aura found i think
this is what it looks like out of combat
then it pops up once i use it
On not at my pc so cant screen shot but im pretty sure if you change the trigger 1 “show on” drop down to always, that will fix it
this?
i found it shows as soon as i target an enemy
im not using WA groups,making everything alone or grabbing whatever looks like it isnt a burden or distracts me butcool to know it works man!
works as soon as i target smth but not always, thats still annoying lol
is the whole group hiding when you have no target or just the garrote
cause the garrote by itself will always show once you change tht drop down
also it doesnt show the cd of garrote unlike the old one but well, its not like thats an issue usually
so its something with the group
the whole group shows always
Yea you will need a separate trigger for that, that wa only tracks the aura
im trying but i cant make it work smh, guess itll have to do like this
which pack are you using?
devlin
checking show when unit does not exist will fix it disappearing
same place as the show on drop down
im a fucking donkey, thank you, i checked and unchecked that earlier but nothing happened, now it works

now the cooldown problem im not sure, i think something in the custom code is not letting it show even with a separate trigger
if i read the triggers correctly it doesnt have a cd trigger
it doesnt, i added one though and it still doesnt work
mildly infuriating that it doesnt show cd
cant get this empower garrote WA to track CD
it only tracks the aura and a normal CD trigger doesnt seem to work for some reason
giving it a smol number top right corner would be enough already
u can just make a smol custom wa next to this to track it if u want ,not icon,jsut a big fat number count
I will take a look, my empowered tracker has the Cd tracked on it if you want that in the meantime
i could use that as well tbh but i linked the wa the man tries to work on
its the one im currently using
Yup, that's why I said "in the meantime", going to look at that one too
this is mine if you want: https://wago.io/zxhRObQLf
Links to others in the wago too
I was able to get that other one to show a Cd too, just added a CD trigger, placed it into trigger 2's position, added a text with %2.p, made conditions to show the text when trigger 2 on cooldown and desaturate or whatever else
Let me know if you want more details on updating that other one specifically or if you're just content with mine, all g
i just imported yours and it was easier to fit into my pack than the old one, didnt even have to adjust the size n everything sooo ill use yours from now 
aight ill do, so far its pretty self explanatory tho (which i like), white if normal, blue if empowered, blue action button glow if next one will empower and no empowered running currently
Action glow is also pandemic
white action glow = unempowered pandemic, which will not show up if it's currently empowered
yeah thats what i saw from hitting dummy for 10 minutes
love it ngl
do you have the whole thing available in one pack?
White action glow is intended to say "It's safe to cast"
Which also, btw, shows up if your current is empowered, and your next is empowered, and your current one is in pandemic (but empowered)
It will show blue then, because you can pandemic your empowered
This last point is less important in 10.2 because of how we sequence garrote
But in 10.1 with sepsis it's helpful for me at least
I have a link to the whole pack in the screenshot but it's not a fully released pack, I'm still making adjustments near daily. The standalone auras linked out from Garrote and a few others I have public because I feel fine about them.
Also the full pack has some adjustments that don't work perfectly for 10.1 because of Talent changes
aight, gotta grab the whole thing when the full 10.2 version is up and running 😄
If you want it, knowing it's being frequently updated, here's my personal backup wago for the whole pack. Also it's not exactly intended as perfect for everyone, it's just my personal pack the way I like it but people were asking so if you want it you can use it too. Wago is marked as hidden for now https://wago.io/s2JVzLWHs
(Also it has way more focus on Assassination (and slightly less on Sub), and not much focus on getting fancy stuff for OTL, as I mostly main assassination)
tbh thats good bc im trying to go more sin than law for next patch and a weakaura with that more in mind is nice 😄
straight to my bookmarks 
after understanding the tea bubbles and the envenom bar aswell as repositioning stuff where i want it i gotta say this is an amazing aura pack 
do we know how much our keystones are dropping when next patch hits?
next week is the last week to get one done right?
Hey I don't understand how you play the cds right after the opener
Do you just use it on cooldown at 1m30, use improved garrote on both stealthed abilities, and simply vanish garrote right before going in deathmark?
I've read faq but i still can't figure it out
so on a normal fight you don't vanish in the opener
your 1:30 sepsis refreshes your garrote with empowered
then the 2nd part of sepsis you garrote again in pandemic
and that will run through the start of deathmark
then vanish garrote during deathmark in pandemic
to keep the empowered garrote running
at 4m you can either delay your DM a bit to line up with vanish or just send it and lose a bit of empowered garrote time
hmmm i think my mistake is that i'm not consuming sepsis with garrote on the second time
does mutilate consume the buff ?
or only ambush/garrote?
Only ambush or garrote
But if you have ambush in the same spot as your mutilate button on your stealth bar
That would do it
ok so it might be because i have ambush as a replacement for mutilate in my stealth bar
i guess that's useless right anyway?
you always want to garrote out of stealth as ass
and not ambush, correct?
yeah currently you never want to ambush w/ the sepsis proc
now i'm runnin 2 bomb on sark 
thanks for the answers! last question, does blindside ambush procs consume sepsis?
no
oh that's great, thanks!
yo when do you guys recommend to use cloak or feint in M sark p3
cloak is kind of free use
unles you're getting a meteor
then save it for that
feint duress dispells
and soaks
alright thanks!
KB time
omg finally
Neltharion mythic done. second tier 1 off full mythic clear.
for some reason guild got gigahardstuck
Ye, was super frustrating we got a 0.5% wipe tonight also then getting hard stuck at the end of P1 >.< like HWAIKNRAKWNR
been there 
indeed. my parse is uhm yeh. it's proper sad being top 3 for all of the pulls then get deep in p3 and people just blow me up xD
CLASSIC

hard to parse on that fight on prog cuz you're just cranking the boss in p3
once we recleared I was RPing as a sub rogue just ripping fan
almost the entirety of p3

Sin doesn't have any m+ prepull abilities, right?
the only one is indiscriminate carnage as far as i know, and thats gone in 10.2
Stealth 
ar=>rtb=>snd
oh wait thats outlaw

when everything you do = outlaw
was it ever explained why we wear kingsbane on the back instead of on the side of the pants like other daggers? It looks very strange...
WE WILL BE POWER INFUSING @keen spruce ROGUE


What
Its one of the things people like about it 
can pi me any time 😊 👉 👈
Yes I for example It just looks like shit. No idea what Blizzard has thought with DAGGER to stick on the back....
Back carrying was actually a pretty popular style
The position is just a bit off if you talk average daggers
And carrying a dagger in the ingame back carry position would actually be more practical than the swords, even the 1h ones. How it looks is subjective tho
You probably have the worst class visually for that aswell tho 
i seriously love the dagger but not on the back :c
In my opinion, there should be options for how you want to hold the weapons. Whether at the side or at the back.
and that the undead get a straight back :V
SoD?
sanctum of domination

yes well but you can not run solo yet. It will probably take 5-6 years until we can run shadowlands solo.
timeslicer
think its from old hillsbrad
Which sanctum dagger looks good 
sanctum dagger looks like swords..
betrayer's shadowspike
the red ones are dope
Nah no way
so you love swords ofc
dagger that looks like swords? 😄
peasants 😄
welcom to 99% of wow "daggers" lmao
the game where daggers are swords
swords are claymores
and a 2hand sword is a chunk of metal
1st person to actually reckongnize that
that's just stupid from blizzard. Just like the oversized shoulders.
that is why i love Blade of Brutal Sacrifice / Fallen Warlord's Mindcarver/ Ruinous Gutripper
alliance BfA season1 PvP dagger
legit the only dagger in the entire game that looks like a dagger
sadly cant use it anymore cus faction locked :c
new to assasins and didn't find this info on internet is it possible to macro mutilate to swap with ambush if it procs out of stealth proc?
Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
This should be seen as a "lazy" option, and is not recommended. It can be hard to control and requires a third-party macro addon to expand the games base functionality. We recommend ALWAYS keybinding ambush (either with a modifier, or an entirely different key)
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message
I like the titansteel daggers but even those look like swords
something like this should be homemade by blizzard in my opinion. Something like this is worth its weight in gold
well, it is a work around
and it is far from perfect
as mentioned, 10.2 will add a home brew option
but it makes things a lot easier instead of the blunt macro game from blizzard
but only mutilate and ambush right?
yes
Would be practical to use at sub with cold blood and sectec or shuriken storm with shuriken tornado
or thistle tea with symbols of death..
you can macro cold blood and secret technique on subtelty
i don't think thats a problem
subtlety is a bit outside of the scope of this channel
but tornado by iteself is poorly designed
yes just came into my mind
i think flagellation and tornado serve similar purposes
and tornado is bad for player feedback
it has a lot of edge cases it works not intuitively (like not getting cp from shadowblades)
the first cast is delayed and the window to use finisher is tight
a lot of things to fail/learn, for a spell with mediocre impact
for tea, it comes down to the energy economy of the spec
i am not sure how complex it is for assassinaiton in 10.2
but i remember outlaw did use tea mostly for the mastery buff
tea can be interessting as a talent but always depends on the energy economy and if the economy is good it becomes a lot less fun of a key to play around.
iirc still just for energy
It is still used for energy
But in 10.2 the energy economy is more prominent
So same tool same purpose, different environment
!sheet
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
I’m going to hop into the mage tower finally but I have seen two different builds. One focuses on AP and the other on IC with DTB. Anyone have experience on which one they would recommend? Seems like FoK spam is pretty common with both?
I think the strat from Legion still applies. Basically just keep your bleeds up while dealing with the BS. Think the time to finish it is a little tighter now. Can’t remember.
Shuriken Tornado, to me, does not feel good to use
welp. no ce for me this tier. feels so good to have put in that much time and effort for nothing while the rest of the team got it
My guild actually got everyone CE on the reclear this time. Usually someone ends up missing the reclear(s), or there isn't time for one.
if it wasn't my first then it is what it is, but yeah, bad feels
Don't feel bad. My GF and I were shooting for Keystone Hero this season. She's non-competitive though and only ever wanted to do 1-2 dungeons a week. We only made it to 2415
And I was doing as the most cursed M+ spec in the game, assassination. We only did PUGs, and assassination seemed not very good for PUGs
Sin is fine for pugs and easy to get KSH with. Not to diminish your effort but a bit of a different scale
idk if I would call it the most cursed m+ spec 
I had a lot of fun with in m+ but I’m weird so

Need some help on stat %. I'm curently 43 Crit 3 Haste 63 Mastery 15 Vers. Is this pretty well rounded or should i be looking to cutback on something and add to another? Thanks for any help.
item level is the best stat, just sim topgear and dont even look at the actual %
there arent specific stat weights or break points
Ok thanks, just wasn’t sure if I should play around and balance it.
i mean there probably some optimization
just sim your character to find those small improvements though
not something we could answer for you
Sorry to hear that mate, but at least you're in an environment that might catch it next time. I doubt I'll see past whatever the midway wall in mythic is any time soon
I did this last week with m+ IC build and idk if it was bugged but I did way more damage than what I think it was tuned for. Was way ahead on time
Our tier set this season is much juicier than last for it I feel like
@outer cairn try doing 1 M+ a week in all PUGs with your girlfriend tanking -- who barely wants to even be playing wow -- and see if you can hit KSH
It basically feels like mythic raiding
you could do keys on your own too
Oh
That's the other stipulation
We met in wow and when she moved in, we vowed never to play without each other
So no
We have the exact same M+ rating lol
It's quite exciting doing up to a +18 only to find out she in fact had not been tanking a boss correctly all the runs prior and now we can't actually time the run because we can't kill the boss because she doesn't know how to do Underrot's last two bosses (I guess we were just facerolling up to that point)
Then that's our run for the week, hopefully we get that key next week. Except we won't see that dungeon for another 3 weeks, and by then she's forgotten lol
I mean, if that is the situation then its not about the specs you played.
And shouldn't even warrant a mention.
You just didn't play the game.
For perspective, I do about 20k more DPS as Subtlety, so it seems like it's worth a mention. If I'd been playing sub, the times we barely missed the timer (for whatever reason), we probably would've made it.
I like the playstyle and the class fantasy of assassination, but in M+ this season it was pretty cursed
It was easily capable of doing much higher keys than 18s though sooo 
I mean, sure, but let's see someone in 443 gear PUG and time a +28 in assassination gear
I'm not sure pugging a +28 without voice com is even possible
I'm sure it is.
You seriously think that someone can PUG a +28 without voice com as assassination is possible when 28 is the highest key anyone has ever done this season as assassination
Fascinating take
Not sure which region you're in but I know someone who was pugging around 26s/27s without coms.
+30 is the highest key 👍
And you doesn't specific pugging a +28 as assassination without coms.
Just a +28.
And this was before they redid the dungeon scaling.
you can 4sure do a 28 UR in a pug as Assa without comms
Which made 28s easier than the 27s.
What
Oh, I see. You didn't read it as though it was a comment directly from my previous comment
My bad, yeah, I meant as assassination
I did.
I definitely can't do that
But I read it as a 'I don't this specific circumstance is possible. I'm not sure this slightly more generalised form is even possible which further illustrates the fact that the specific one isn't possible either'.
Yeah, fair, poorly worded on my part
git gud
@earnest remnant can you do it with your girlfriend tanking though when she doesn't know how to tank the last two bosses though lol
Well, all the time relative to the amount of people still doing 28s.
i made the wise choice to not play video games with my partner
so i dont have to suffer
I'm too old and I don't have the shotcalling braincells I had 20 years ago. I tried researching her role as tank, but as a non-tank, I just can't
VALORANT
yeah not shot she gets me to play that
I just started solo queueing for PvP while she runs around and collects treats for the holiday event so I can feel like I'm achieving something
Without a trinket
Or PvP gear
@keen spruce
This late in the season
If she doesn't want to play the game but you do.
Why not just talk to her?
And come to an agreement that you shouldn't be stopped from doing things because of her general lack of interest.
Wdym, Valo is fun for at least a short time.
Then the rage starts to seep in.
And then the toxicity.
And then you have cheaper holidays.
It's a fair point. She actually told me she felt bad she's holding me back and I can queue for M+ solo, but then I felt sad and guilty, and didn't want to hit that benchmark without her. So, shrug
It's just a number
It's fine guys. IT'S FINE 😎
id rather repeatedly have my pinky toe get caught on the leg of a table when i walk past
That can be arranged Mr Stealthi.
i absolutely despise valorant
Is it a game issue or a community issue?
game
Ahh fair enough.
i couldnt care less about the people playing it
i grew up playing CoD league and CS:GO
so
i might be a part of the problem LOL
Well if you're fine with how things are then fair enough. Sounds to me like she doesn't really wanna do it but is willing to at least do a bit with you which is cool on her part.
Yeah I have to steer myself away from competitive PvP games.
I dunno what it is about PvE in WoW but I'm much happier to not be constantly stressing about becoming better. Can't do that with competitive games with MMR.
Not to say I don't want to improve, I just don't feel stress over it.
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
!logs
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
Seems like we can't ask for log reviews anymore, but is there something I could've done better this pull?
or done something wrong
except the extra garotte at the start

It’s minimal sequencing stuff
But you’re only competing against speed clears
I don’t understand the snapshot part thio
if you use a normal garrote
it overwrites you empowered garrote
so you need to let empowered garrotes run down to 0
Garrote from sepsis = empowered ?
yes
Or from vanish
both
from stealth empowered
the talent is when used from stealth, which you get from vanish and sepsis
Perfect, tyvm guys

!wa
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
My seasonal recap was vicious lol
I got memed on in wowhead writers chat
it's uh
not an uncommon thing
Uhoh
Lol
I'm gonna be responding in my guild only with gifs of Tigger
Join me, and we can confuse maybe 12 guilds, making them think we were actually feral the whole time
why would u wanna be confused for feral
Happy Halloween
Mine said the same thing
I'm assuming its gonna say that for most rogues 😛
I don't. I just enjoy being mildly unhinged when the insomnia hits
I'm just looking forward to suprising the shit out of people on how well Sin performs in m+ now with the new kit
assa gonna be the new meta im calling it, we replace fire mage in the god comp
now we want the pi and evoker buffs
idk about that, but waiting for people to see Sudden Demise proc on lower keys and be confused as shit
people in lower keys dont even know whats happening, they are always confused
thats the secret
I already surprise people with big numbers in keys. I'm excited, but also mildly anxious for next season lol
i wanted to get on ptr last night and actually test it all but no servers were up
put this tier behind me and focus on being one of the better sin rogues this next one
If i understand it correctly, assa will be viable again ? Maybe better than sub in pve in the next season?
better? no idea, playable in every content? yes
Was thinking if it was better than sub in ST, perhaps m+ cause of the rework. Would be nice to play assa again
when 10.2 hits will we be using kingsbane in any talents either for raid or m+?
kingsbabe is bis
It was the one spec I was missing 
I've played with every spec
and I did like 40% of the keys I normally do
yall aren't even trying are you
I did about 40% of the keys I normally do too.
Only like 200 total this season
Usually that’s not even how much I do on my rogue
I did 58 keys :)
I had low key count this season too sadgers
been nice since prog was finished... Just been hanging out playing other games
Spending time with friends and fam lol
doing gods work
Im a simple man
DISGUSTING
Too bad it doesnt say what specs i ran in raid
Pretty sure i played more sin than sub in raid
wanna help me get timestrike daggy? 😉
For sure
just dmed you ❤️
Less sightings than Bigfoot
dw realz cooked the shart so good im boutta snort that shit all thru 10.2
Realz is PSH reencarnated
Hey Whispyr, how bad is the frenzying signal flare?
is it at least better than that other terrible trinket I ended up with?
Well, its simming better in Single target, but worse in AOE, hmm
It’s not great
Well, I'll use it anyways
Sims are accurate
I usually end up the ST burner anyways
So if it’s better at
is it safe to craft sporecloak now or wait for 10.2?
IIRC, we wait. We only replace 447 toxic patch with max ilvl sporecloak
but that was like 3 ptr patch cycles ago so idk
but like, you could craft one now
cause the mats will be cheaper now than later early in the next patch
and then you only pay for recraft reagents?
Our main work horse crafter quit the guild cause he got benched on sark 😑
So next tier is gonna really suck with all that
our main warlock quit cause he didnt get benched on sark
imagine getting declined for researchers event twice in a row
need big ilvl for this one I guess
huh
Someone say they need a LW?
I currently run quazii’s plater profile but I really like the way poisons and bleeds show up on targets in whispyrs, is there any way for me to like copy and paste that part into the plater I currently run?
my plater is public on wago, as well as the mod I use for pandemic
but the rest is just debuff targetting
I have been looking at quazi's though
maybe I try to merge
I’ve been using his since start of season two and I really like how he’s set up the different bars for m+. Also, hiya ❤️
hiya
hiya
will assasination be good in m+?
Sure
better than now?
Yea
No CD?
Carnage doesn’t have a cd
It’s a passive
fro mstealth?
Yes
give me the book
the papyrus
I’ve been releasing videos about all of this for weeks and there’s an entire channel dedicated to 10.2
You’ll figure it out
Here you go 
There’s a whole ptr channel with pins and videos
whats the diff between parse % and key %?
whats key %?
U should write a book. Or a YouTube channel or somethin’ Why u keeping all that knowledge a secret sir?
True
its prob like ilvl % in raid logs where it is just whatever?
i have no idea
maybe key% is for that specific key and level (ie, 20 FH vs 18 FH) and Rank% is more broad?
maybe how much of the key was completed since raid logs have a % wipe but the same doesn’t apply
Parse key% is how much damage you did comparatively to the same spec doing the same key. And your key% is how high your key level was compared to all key levels completely by your spec
I see rank % on the left and key % on the right - you mentioned parse key % and key %
can you clarify that piece?
I think I got confused a bit with rank% and parsing. But tbh looking at my own logs I’m more confused than I was when I made that statement
ha no worries, thx anyway
I have no idea what key% is at all
i always thought key % was how you did compared against other playrs of your spec in that key at that level
and the other was just like comparing all key levels of your spec
Maybe rank% is ranked against all assa rogues and key% is just that particular key level
so like for something like healing - you cant really compare somene who did a 12 vs. someone who did a 24 cause the person doing the 24 will always have higher hps
so key level is what you would use if you wanted to see how you did vs. other people doin a 12
i think this is correct
iirc
what is rank % and what is key %
Blue parsing even in keys
so that would support my logic - you did really well against all assa rogues but when you narrow it down to just assa rogues that did 23 of wtvr key that is you would do slightly worse
Probably doesn’t help only 39 assa rogues have done a 23 uld or higher
Not many people to parse against
so i do think the one on the right is just comparing you against your spec at that specific key level
and on the left you're being compared against all assa rogues of this key for wtvr key level
Makes sense
*have logged
That’s true
many many people at the top-end dont log their runs
or at all levels, really
still great ❤️
Tbf there isn’t that many assa rogues with higher io
Maybe next patch there will be more
More assa rogues but maybe I push higher as well
yeah I'm going to try and push higher next patch too, I think if I really try I can reach 2.5k
Based
Based on what
huehuehue
hey guys, why does ominous chromatic Essence (437) sims lower then elementium pocket anvil (437)? its abou 1k dps difference
Double check if your OCE is simming with the other buffs, also fight duration favors the pocket anvil, but sim fights are for the most part longer. Outside these 2 factors, sim is right
ahh alright so thats why i may play with OCE and Harlans, even the Anvil sims higher ?:)
Depends on what content you're doing and if your group has the other OCE
okay well normally m+
Based on the lore
!whispyr
Whispyr's Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
anyone has single talent with nightstalker for sin?
BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIFJSCigEAAAAAAAJB4AJCAAAAAAANCSJJRSSSapkISCJEJWQA
how is there always a 3k io rogue on our server?
Probably because I whispered her at the end of last season and said I was gonna be number 1. Then I got within 30 points and she pushed another 150 
And my guild stopped logging on to do keys
if i do every fort key on +31 i can get title 
go get 'em duck man
smh, bacon should be 100% of your damage
if you do me, you can get the title of oxi-fucker
how's that for a consolation




Let's say we have 6CP total, we're currently at 5cp and I need to refresh garrote, is it better to press garrote -> finisher @6cp or finisher @5 cp -> Garrote
Or doesn't matter (considering full energy and both would be in pandemic range)
I see myself doing the first option like 90% of the times and I'm wondering if I'm missing out on few envenoms in a let's say 5 minutes fight
On 10.1 I don't think it matters much
I do the same
But on 10.2 you likely will want to do the latter
If you have enough CP to envenom finish, you want to and shift extra cp into the next envenom, you need to keep the chains going
(For the new tier set)
so probably an ok habit to break soon
I still can't believe that finish on any number of CP was almost an option
@gusty mirage is this your client?
quiet boomkin
your kind are on shaky ground here
It isn’t generic rogue though. It’s sin
Didn't ask
you'll see this in gchat as soon as i swap the names 😄
Damn
Yup, I almost sent it to raider discussion lol
lemme steal the glory!

alright, submitted
Someone needs to make a template so I can just fill in my own name
real
Under recent developments discovered by Ravenholdt, also known as the Rogue Discord of Rh. It has come to my attention that rogue name will hereby be, going forward, the best target for Power Infusion.
With written agreement to all the following clauses, my client, hereby referred to as rogue name will consent to play Rogue in the guild your guild and any other name the guild may be known as in perpetually.
Clause 1
A dedicated player, “the Priest,” will be required to give Power Infusion to rogue name in each encounter. The Priest will be played in every encounter rogue name is played (so all encounters) as a means of boosting his/her DPS to astronomical numbers.
Clause 2
rogue name and the Priest will never be asked to “swap off boss” or “stop DPS”. Stopping damage or swapping off boss is never the correct decision.
Clause 3
rogue name and the Priest call first dibs on all major upgrades. This includes, but is not limited to, the following.
- Trinkets
- Tier
- Weapons
- Any item that is a higher item level
Clause 4
Upon completion of the tier, the terms of this agreement are complete, and the Priest may relinquish his/her Power Infusion for any target of their choosing.
I, have read and agree to all the above statements.
x (Signature)
I typed this on my phone
Sorry in advance
I feel like it would be easier to have somewhere to put your name once and then have you be referred to "the Rogue"
You have to make sure it’s air tight
It’s a lot like bird law
why would you do this to yourself?
I hate myself?
understandable
New Power Infusion User Application Amirdrassil, the Dream’s Hope Under recent developments discovered by Ravenholdt, also known as the Rogue Discord or RH, it has come to my attention that Assassination Rogue will hereby be, going forward, the best target for Power Infusion. With written agre...
Bless up
!FUU
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Bless you
you can also do a find and replace for "the Rogue" to your name
Trying to figure out how I get my signiture in there
Whatever you want bby
UwU
Oh no my guild has actual lawyers and they're reviewing the document

somone got a good weakaura to track rupture/garrote?
I'm looking to get into Sin this patch
Is there a vid or somewhere to read up on "how to play" kinda thing with all the new changes?



















