assassination

[balmy condor]

They have a legendary staff

[mystic osprey]

True

#1 rank that's not an evoker plays on my server, what a chad

[half dawn]

damn

logging now is tough

[pure moth]

All good. We running tonight at 830est?

[thorn fjord]

Right!

I’ll be back at a pc in about 15

[balmy condor]

All good

[mystic osprey]

What dagger is it?

[half dawn]

why is livelogging so bad fml

if you livelog multiple runs of dungeon / raid, only the fisrt one shows up in wow anaylser?

the fuq

i must be doing something wrong

[balmy condor]

timestrike dagger nick of time

from the megadungeon

[balmy condor]

you should be able to just select a different fight

[half dawn]

can you check if it works for you? I can only see my VP run

I'm trying to look at my Kazzara pull

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ww3gz9aY4vjMmdJc#fight=last

wait

nvm

i had to click refresh on the website

boomer

[mystic osprey]

I thought fang of sundered flame was better

[keen spruce]

[half dawn]

Why does WoW analyser mark some of my envenoms in red (when rupture is low on timer) when I never drop rupture?

[balmy condor]

not for offhand

[half dawn]

Here's an example: https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Ww3gz9aY4vjMmdJc/69-Heroic+Kazzara,+the+Hellforged+-+Kill+(2:44)/Corecollapse/standard

[balmy condor]

I mean it says it right there don't it

[gilded oasis]

right

[balmy condor]

Try not to cast Envenom with less than 3s left on Rupture, as it may cause you to miss pandemic-ing Rupture.

[half dawn]

No no, I saw that, but idk i didn't miss any just strange it was red.

I guess its to avoid a bad habit

[balmy condor]

if rupture has 2 seconds left on it you're cutting it real close

cause you envenom, then you have to mut mut

[half dawn]

its just a gamble I'll get enough CP for animacharged finisher

[balmy condor]

yeh pretty much

[half dawn]

wait no

[bold cliff]

20+ keys don't yield mythiv upgrade track gear at the end, however it does yield mythic track from vault?

[half dawn]

I know what I did

I did late ruptures

because I used the animacharge shit

ability

to insta cast full after envenom

[balmy condor]

16+ keys yield mythic track from vault

[bold cliff]

ok, but none of them yield it from end of dungeon?

[half dawn]

anyway, still dogshit dps

[balmy condor]

no

[half dawn]

fml

[timber meadow]

@balmy condor so this guy also fucked up and used his sepsis on ambush intead of garrote?

was just grabbin some of the top logs from kazza

[gilded oasis]

oh man who would make that mistake... 4 times on one fight last night

surely not me

[timber meadow]

LOl ive been making it a bunch today - just wanted to make sure im not missing somethin

like if i udnerstand the rule correctly, then that image is a mistake

[gilded oasis]

that log coulda been ambush procs though, not the sepsis buff

[balmy condor]

nah

easily could've just double procced blindside

[timber meadow]

nah

it was as mistake

according to wowanalyzer at least

unless it also doesn't track bs

[balmy condor]

link the log

[half dawn]

I don't think I'm ever beating my Rashok log from June this season (rank wise not dmg wise) o7

[timber meadow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/F8ngZLjhVPzGmCbN#fight=5&type=casts&source=62&view=timeline

[balmy condor]

he ambushed with blindside

[timber meadow]

okay so wowanalyzer doesn't track bs

when its giving you those suggestions

[balmy condor]

that's a @main vessel ping

[timber meadow]

cause if you plug that log in

you'll see the first shows up as red

[balmy condor]

I don't really get why it would do that

it should be checking for aura removal event

[half dawn]

dont think wow analyzer is perfect, it will tell you holding vanish for 2nd deathmark is bad

[balmy condor]

and blindside doesn't remove the aura

so the sepsis buff should persist after the ambush gets cast

idk

[runic hinge]

If boss is gonna die before the imp garrote from the first cast of sepsis runs out is it better to use second sepsis cast on ambush?

[balmy condor]

technically it is

[half dawn]

wait is it actually bad to do hold now?

and better to hold sepsis for it?

last patch iirc you held it for DM

[balmy condor]

you can use the 1:30 sepsis for the 2 min deathmark

as per this

in the faq

[mystic osprey]

I was thinking if you're running bone spike it's different

[half dawn]

yeah i thought so, cool to know I'll try it

[gusty mirage]

surely

[half dawn]

I hope they don't change assa up too much for ST

[mystic osprey]

I watched your video so I know this 🤓

[half dawn]

I fucking get so rock hard playing this spec on ST

[balmy condor]

🤓 learning about things make you learn things

[mystic osprey]

Those assassin rogue vids were actually banging though thanks for them

[balmy condor]

my pleasure

[gusty mirage]

do you need me to login?

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yes

wogin

[mystic osprey]

Is 121k overall on a 17 BH 435 decent would you say?

[balmy condor]

yeah sounds okay

[mystic osprey]

I'ma have to Sim

[gusty mirage]

am I tanking or rogue

[mystic osprey]

You can use dungeon slide right

Slice*

[half dawn]

yeah but dungeon slice wont replicate your run

best to just log it and compare runs with others / run the same level multiple times to see how you do

[mystic osprey]

What's best for mythics

[half dawn]

but this also depends on routes

slice

but there are dungeons you will do much higher overall than others

like BH or Ulduman

[balmy condor]

probably tank?

idk

@thorn fjord @brazen zodiac @gilded oasis @winged veldt

who else

role call time

[mystic osprey]

Just rogue tank bro

[thorn fjord]

I’m in

Turning pc on

Four rogues one @gusty mirage ?

[balmy condor]

oxi is rogue

found guild tank

need 1 more rogue

[gilded oasis]

I can log over in a sec

[balmy condor]

nice

[thorn fjord]

You can have oxi suggest me when you guys are ready to go

Parked outside of dungeon

[gilded oasis]

is it listed

[thorn fjord]

oxi isnt currently in a group so not sure if its up

[thorn fjord]

He got two pieces of loot

Neither of which were the dagger

[balmy condor]

YEP

[winged veldt]

Just got home. Still need me?

[balmy condor]

nah

I looted boots and gloves

[winged veldt]

Shit just seeing the newest messages

Fuck man 😦

Trash game confirmed! You got my loot luck I had with bomb :/

[balmy condor]

:/

that's not the loot luck I want

[thorn fjord]

Watch tho

Next tier you’ll get the m+ version super quick

[winged veldt]

I hope he gets it immediately based off this shit lol

[gilded oasis]

I hope he doesn't

[winged veldt]

Lmao

[coarse bear]

for sark p2, if I want my main focus to be the boss during 1st and 3rd recollection, but we still need a little help with them, what dots do I put on the recollection? just like one garrote and one rupture? (assuming I dont waste a sepsis rupture)

[balmy condor]

yeah

you always dot the big add

the first one should get obliterated by people's cooldowns with haste buff

I dot it with gar/rup when sark flies away

the second set you have vanish

so you vanish gar the add then sark

[coarse bear]

oh shit your right

[balmy condor]

the third set you don't really have anything for just kinda hit it with stuff

and pray that your arcane mage held cds

[coarse bear]

so I garrote/rupture the 1st add before popping cds into boss?

[balmy condor]

nah

straight into boss

[coarse bear]

ive been playing sub for the last 277 pulls and havent touched sin for a few months but were omega behind on boss dam so I am learning assasination again to hopefully help

[balmy condor]

https://youtu.be/Gc7Ag1r2tjc?t=396

this might help

it's timestamped

to where I go over sark

[gilded oasis]

shameless

[balmy condor]

basically front to back

[static glacier]

now to win gold in mental gymnastics olympics to prove whispyr's vids aren't relevant

[gilded oasis]

🤣

[balmy condor]

[thorn fjord]

Damn I never thought of using vanish there but it makes total sense

[brazen zodiac]

I am stuck on a train.

Send wee woo.

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/be-doo-be-doo-minion-despicable-me-alert-warning-gif-11970734646175466629

[winged veldt]

Yea tryan I think put me on the cooldown usage for sark before I started on it. Def helped a lot for me personally.

[main vessel]

What up

[balmy condor]

wowanalyzer sepsis tracker thinks u r big succ if you use blindside proc during sepsis buff

but it should only be big succ if you ambush without blindside proc during sepsis buff

ambush with blindside is gud

[main vessel]

🧐

Alright

[signal ridge]

gearing up alt rogue....it's incorp week

;sad

[balmy condor]

how bout you incorperate my balls into your dinner

[signal ridge]

it's soup night

you'll hurt

[balmy dome]

do y'all have a command for log reviews?

[balmy condor]

yep

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy dome]

ty

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy dome]

how do I request a more in depth one? used the wowanalyzer and it was very nice but I think I was mostly correct

[balmy condor]

then you're mostly correct

there's nothing else to say besides the stuff wowanalyzer will spit out

[balmy dome]

gotcha, ty

felt I was doing well and parsed a 47 so I am like what can I do better lol

[balmy condor]

more gear more procs faster kill

[pure moth]

@agile osprey @keen spruce im logging in

[agile osprey]

Hey guys I can’t tonight I’m sorry. Having a work issue 😦

[pure moth]

all good. hopefully your work issue is an easy fix

[keen spruce]

loggin in

if u still wanna run it @pure moth

oh wait nvm someone called out of my friend's raid

i have to go fill

[pure moth]

you have the weapon, it was mook that didnt right?

[solid mica]

how tf yall doing 150k on rashok

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-vibes-emmit-fenn-who-dat-music-gif-18494627

[solid mica]

lol

that gif is fire

feel like im playing pretty well and can't hit 140

[keen spruce]

mook has it

[pure moth]

ah. well we can run it whenever

[keen spruce]

maybe tomorrow normal time?

[stoic phoenix]

just proc 2x sophic and class trinket during all 3 deathmarks, ezclap 150K

[solid mica]

tru

get gud i guess

[pure moth]

thursday same time would be better

[keen spruce]

all the same to me

[pure moth]

ok

[solid mica]

rng +external meta bis

[candid geyser]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[main vessel]

made an issue for it to remind me: https://github.com/WoWAnalyzer/WoWAnalyzer/issues/6409

[balmy condor]

fantastic stuff

[main vessel]

I can't fix it while I'm in raid

just letting you know

:3

[balmy condor]

fix raid please

want to die

[main vessel]

god I wish

this is pain

[coarse bear]

how much dmg does sin lose taking wound poison? Id imagine quite a bit

[gusty mirage]

a lot

[balmy dome]

Sorry to ask - but I felt like I played this super well and parsed a 9...

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/VdPGRjvfqzrm72x1/52-Mythic+Rashok,+the+Elder+-+Wipe+12+(6:44)/Rolynd/standard

[timber meadow]

random question but im kinda curious - how much dps is properly using your sepsis buffs worth vs. doing eveyrthing else correctly but if you were to just purposely not consume sepsis with garrotes

[earnest remnant]

Granted im kinda new to apl work but i tried something

[timber meadow]

jesus

goes ham

empowered garrotes do work though so makes esnse

[blazing jewel]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrowdedPluckyPepperPermaSmug-2V9vzjzM0RAMgW4g

@earnest remnant

I got slappy hands

on nelth

[earnest remnant]

lmfao get fucked

[blazing jewel]

on top of that

they forgot to put my name in the portal list

[sullen hollow]

ezd

ez

take back ups

[timber meadow]

is there a significant gain in purposely playing around ep uptime vs. just getting ep naturally from full sending envenom?

playing around ep is fun but i was curious how beneficial it actually is

[limber lion]

Not that beneficial really. Don't worry about it

[earnest remnant]

okay a bit more realistic, this just shouldnt do the whole sepsis-garrote-shiv thing

cutting out the garrote part

this just refreshes garrote normally within pandemics

there will be some overlaps where its gets consumed

[median flicker]

got bis trinkets, like 4 weeks before next patch let's go 🙂

[plucky canopy]

Still not an owner of the big bomb 😔

But maybe today 🙏🙏

[dark token]

Any EU folks who have nick of time wanna donate to my 2 boss run

[earnest remnant]

i can help

if you get a group going

[dark token]

ayo i need 1 more volunteer

ill get a group going

[earnest remnant]

they werent happy with that

[dark token]

im finishing

its not bad to replace 1 dps

everyone left tho

oh well

[viral meadow]

where's the best place to get a log analysed? I've thrown it in wow analyser but there's not really any glaring issues

[balmy condor]

Then there’s no glaring issues

Nice work

[viral meadow]

i got a 21 on experi @109kdps. Just wondering where the rest of my damage is, and if it's just gear.

[balmy condor]

21 but analyzer says nothing

Is unheard of

Link it

[dark token]

could just be bad gear

[viral meadow]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Mzh1wXryaPmN8jtG/16-Mythic+The+Forgotten+Experiments+-+Kill+(3:53)/Sgrillz/standard/overview

[grim jay]

Well. Gear, killtime..

[viral meadow]

already know I missed vanish and tea on pull

[balmy condor]

My brother in christ

[dark token]

you didnt press vanish?

[balmy condor]

I didn’t even have to scroll

It was just there

[viral meadow]

Yeah probs just downtime actually

didn't even consider lol

[balmy condor]

What’s the story here

[viral meadow]

adds during breath

[balmy condor]

But it didn’t hit anything

[viral meadow]

but if I take top parse

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/6nFM9prcWRwKQLyq/14-Mythic+The+Forgotten+Experiments+-+Kill+(3:04)/Stealthi/standard

still energy capping

[balmy condor]

[dark token]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/JV7D1YCMKNgypZR6/2/3 heres a top log for comparison

[balmy condor]

Idk why there’s so much downtime

[dark token]

its experiements

maybe it counts the afk

oh its mythic

still there is some downtime in p3

[viral meadow]

breath p3, charge p1 dunno.

[balmy condor]

Yeh but like not that much right

Idk where it’s calculating that much energy waste

Seems obscene

[viral meadow]

for mine, or for most? I've only looked at two top parses for myth experio

is it calculating 100 energy?

not 170?

[balmy condor]

Guess it is just downtime

Weird fight

[dark token]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/LMamAWC2Thb6GDdp/6/117 i just did a kazarra

[balmy condor]

Idk use vanish

[dark token]

seems fine i think

sin is kinda too fast atm

its not a bad playstyle but needs to be a bit slower

you have to spam

[viral meadow]

is it weird for 450 nelth to sim lower than 437 OCE and 441 Bomb?

[dark token]

esse is op

[dark token]

yeah luxthos Wa still buggy when i sepsis, rip

[royal lantern]

OCE is consitant

echo trinket is rng gamba

like, if you wanna go for highest possible dmg, Echo wins cus you can gamble high uptime

but then you have other pulls where it doesnt do shit

[craggy nimbus]

A 441 dice simmed higher than a 437 OCE for me in a dungeon slice tho. Didn't try ST sim yet.

[dark token]

make sure ur toggling the right buff

and all allies

[viral meadow]

Ah, that would explain why top parses have nelth trinket

[quiet oar]

If it high rolls big deeps

[onyx sandal]

Hey guys, so I'm currently progging on Experiments M, and am considering swapping to sin for it. I have a basic understanding of Sin, but, is there any particular thing for 2 target cleave in terms of talents?

Is it an example where bone spike actually is better because you can keep a shit ton of spikes on the 2nd guy to make it easier?

I know about rupture/garotte on 2 targets for energy and all that, but, is that really about all you do? Thanks for info! 🙂

[strange python]

Sophic devotion sucks

[craggy nimbus]

Ah alright, I just assumed it did that on it's own. Thanks, I'll look into it later!

[limber lion]

Yes, and maintaining CT. SBS only stacks once, you cannog stack multiple ones. Just one per target.

If you don't play CT, then all you do on 2T is just maintaining Gar/Rup and all poisons on secondary targets and that's it

[strange python]

when is a good time to refresh garrote? i havent played this spec in a while but i see people refreshing it at 10 seconds? i remember it was more like 6 seconds or less

also people dont vanish garrote anymore?

[thorn fjord]

Pand starts at 5s

[thorn fjord]

Currently in ST you’re holding vanish for your second DM where you’ll vanish -> garrote into the dm

[willow kite]

Wait is nick of time actually good?

I'm running 2x 447 crafted atm

[spice surge]

Yes

[slate crown]

Nick of time is BiS offhand

(441 version, not heroic version)

[willow kite]

Neat, I've got it unupgraded in inventory 😎

[open root]

hi guys , is that okay i ask about opener here ?

[sweet dawn]

Sure thing

[open root]

[Stealth] > [Garrote] > [Slice and Dice] > [Echoing Reprimand] >[Rupture] > [Sepsis] > [Garrote] > [Deathmark] > [Shiv]

or we use [Sepsis] befor [Garrote] from [Stealth] get runs out

[limber lion]

No Garrote after Sepsis, otherwise fine

You use the free Garrote from it much later

[open root]

do we use 2 tea on opener ?

[limber lion]

One tea

[open root]

after [Deathmark] ?

[limber lion]

Sure

[open root]

Thank you so much

[balmy dome]

Do you not vanish on opener anymore?

[limber lion]

No, Sepsis is used for all improved garrotes

You vanish just before the 2min Deathmark

[balmy dome]

Gotcha ty

[manic quartz]

Should i use 2nd shiv charge for when DM ends or send back to back?

[limber lion]

b2b

[manic quartz]

ty

Gonna try Assa for first time in this expac 😒 trying to get some of the muscle memory back for assa 😄

[balmy dome]

Can anyone tell me why my dps is so low? I feel like I'm playing it well.

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/VdPGRjvfqzrm72x1/52-Mythic+Rashok,+the+Elder+-+Wipe+12+(6:44)/Rolynd/standard/timeline

[limber lion]

Poor Shiv usage, should always aim to have 1-2 Shiv's every DM. Use them b2b. Dropped for like 4 seconds during first DM.
Not super duper amazing gear at this point of the expansion.
Probs not good procs.
No Windfury

Never use Sepsis procs on Ambush. Maybe you had a Blindside proc but the Analyzer isn't aware, idk.

Here you got a charge of Shiv back at 1:48, but you sent it immediately. Shoulda probs held 20-25s for Deathmark and used 2 Shiv's there instead.

[balmy dome]

ahh

is it better to use the shivs in DM or right before

so like shiv > dm

or dm > shiv

[limber lion]

Same here, no point using Shiv just before Deathmark comes off cooldown.

You can always sit on 1 charge, you do not have to use it on cooldown

Better to use 2 Shiv's during Deathmark instead of 1 Shiv 20s before Deathmark and 1 Shiv during it

[balmy dome]

gotcha

that makes sense

sorry to repeat - you use shiv inside of DM

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter if it's Shiv - Dm or Dm - Shiv, but if you use it 20s before Dm, it's just inting

[balmy dome]

gotcha

lmao perfect

thank you so much

[limber lion]

Np, good luck king

[balmy dome]

❤️

One more question, sorry Ceve. Do you want to use shivs during sepsis or nah?

[thorn fjord]

1 shiv for when sepsis dot is active

You should be able to sepsis then shiv… and then DM should be coming back up and by the time it is you’ll have 2 charges of shiv again that you pair with dm

[royal lantern]

the rule is

you want 1shiv for sepsis (it covers the full duration when you do sepsis->garrote->shiv)

and 2shiv if possible for dm

its 2charges, just try to not overcap charges outside of sepsis/dm windows

[balmy dome]

that makes a lot of sense

[limber lion]

Or rather Sepsis - Gar - Shiv or Sepsis - ANY GCD - Shiv

Because Shiv would not otherwise last until the Sepsis bonk at the end

Gotta use one gcd in between

[balmy dome]

okay tysm

trying to optimize so I'm not grey parsing lmao

[thorn fjord]

yeah missed the Gar

I'll usually sep gar shiv

[half dawn]

hey fellas

whos ready to get tilted

EZ

[onyx sandal]

Sorry, I was away, what is SBS?

Serated none spoke, yes? And it only stacks one per target? That... Kinda sucks. So it is pretty shit then for experiments, right?

[heady drum]

gz mr

[gusty mirage]

everyone in your raid, that's who

[half dawn]

i just noticed this was from NM not HC but w/e

time for HC to see if i get it again KEKW

beacon isnt even good on assa tbh but i wanted it for a long af time

[gusty mirage]

it's not terrible fwiw

it's just kind of a pain in the ass when you get the bomb dispenser

[half dawn]

i have bomb already

and nelth trinket

what I've been using pretty much all season since i got both week 1

or week 1 and week 2 something like that

[silver escarp]

Hey guys, does the dagger from the mega dj will keep the "special" stat for MM+?

[dark token]

what

[gusty mirage]

yes it will keep the timestrike, meaning we're in dawn of the infinite prison

[silver escarp]

Yea that's what i thought.. The timestrike can auto an other time right ?

[gusty mirage]

any ability has a chance to proc it

[silver escarp]

Okay that's nice. + since they nerfed craft we will want it max ilvl

[gusty mirage]

[silver escarp]

Thanks for the answers

[gusty mirage]

that's what I'm here for

[silver escarp]

The hype is actually killing me

[pallid kite]

hey guys just wondering , what is your rotation on m+ for aoe and st? im 429 and to me it seems like im doing low dmg

[vast loom]

check #assassination-faq

and wowhead

[pallid kite]

what should be overall dps in a mythic and dps for a st raid

[onyx crane]

200k

[onyx sandal]

So, as I mentioned earlier. Going to give Sin a try on experiments M today. I am heavy crit with good vers/mastery. Slimy boots. VERY low haste atm. Gotta practice before raid today!

[balmy condor]

This could be an Aug evoker saying numbers

[onyx sandal]

Should I use my empowered garrote on ST and just keep debuffs on the off-target boss? Is it worth throwing my knife as my means to "keep poisons up" cheaply on the 2nd boss?

[limber lion]

Never throw your knife

[onyx sandal]

I know I need to keep rupture/garrote rolling on both targets. And to keep poisons on the off target while ST the main one.

[limber lion]

You want empowered garrotes on as many targets as possible

Spread them if you can

[onyx sandal]

So when I sepsis, I should garrote one target, then put it on the other guy ASAP?

Also, should I likely hold things for execute range if they are close?

[latent copper]

how du i use Sepsis correctly or what to use inside Sepsis. WowAnalyzer said i use Garrate Bad. Is ist Sepsis - Shiv - garrote and Garrote again 3secbefore it ends?

[onyx sandal]

I could be wrong, but, I think so? Lol

Did you cut a current garrote super early or something?

[strange python]

Welp I'm doing rogue on Sark prog instead of feral, any tips ?

[flint tusk]

don't die

[balmy condor]

Sepsis garrote shiv, wait until close to the end of the second buff, then garrote

[onyx sandal]

Do we play around trying to maintain Elaborate planning/spacing out envenom?

[balmy condor]

No

[onyx sandal]

Gotcha, ty 🙂

[half dawn]

whats the strat in NL 1st boss for Assa?

Do you bother dotting up any of the adds or do you go full ST and have your group deal with them

[soft shale]

you can rupture one about to die to get full energy if you're low

[frozen gorge]

what is the best draconic flight to support (essence trinket) ?

[soft shale]

you can check it on a sim it is pinned in #tc-research

[rugged warren]

worth it i guess

[willow kite]

Sorry for ping blade, but I wanted to confirm something here. Usually when playing ST sepsis I see people do:

imp garrote -> snd -> mutilate (just one? or to 5cp+?) -> rupture -> sepsis -> dm -> shiv + tea -> echo. reprimand -> envenom -> imp garrote

.. into normal ST APL

Which opener is correct?

[keen spruce]

technically the one on wowhead

but a lot of us just do the one blade posted cuz we're lazy ig

idk

the difference is negligible

[willow kite]

yeah, going through some of the highest parses I'm honestly seeing a different opener for every player

[keen spruce]

openers don't rly matter as long as you cover all of the fundamentals

[willow kite]

Yeah, key points like shiv timings are still the same - differences seem more to be like how early they sepsis

where one might sepsis similar to above and do garrote further into the sepsis, and another parse simply pops sepsis a bit later, but does sepsis -> garrote -> shiv

straight off

[half dawn]

do you use CT on 2 target cleave or is it better to stick to envenom after dots are up

[keen spruce]

yeah they're roughly the same

dps wise

just more of a comfort thing

[open root]

All good brother, i saw that mutilate too , is that because of (Doomblade Mutilate deals an additional 20% Bleed damage over 8 sec.) ?

[grim tangle]

pretty sure I'm the only idiot who does that delayed sepsis thing

[limber lion]

Nah

Doesn't matter

[rain mortar]

ayee!!!! lets gooo first CE

[spice spire]

Grats homie

[balmy dome]

Any suggestions? https://wowanalyzer.com/report/MktL7gWp2HTbrdhc/3-Mythic+Rashok,+the+Elder+-+Kill+(6:16)/Rolynd/standard/overview

[balmy condor]

As in like reading what that says to you

Or

[balmy dome]

More so what to improve, I've read over it - it's all green as I was talking about last night but it's a 20 parse...I remember you saying bad gear etc but I wanna make sure I"m at least rotationally sound.

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

Looks like it’s kinda complaining about sepsis/tea stuff, and a couple of envenoms at less than 5cp

[balmy dome]

Gotcha, such a nuance spec lol

I like it though, just haven't played it much ty for the help.

[balmy condor]

Np

[timber meadow]

is there anyway to control your call uptime? saw the top kazzara log had like over 30% uptime

which is.... crazy right?

like im getting ~12-15%?

and his fight lasted a minute longer wtf

its just rng right?

[balmy condor]

Yep

Proc more

Just do it

[timber meadow]

am i buggin or is 33% like stupid

[balmy condor]

That’s why he’s rank 1

[timber meadow]

okay ye

just checkin LOL

[balmy condor]

Average is a bit under 20% I think

Around there

[timber meadow]

okay so my comparison log got really unlucky and he got really lucky making me think it was even more absurd than it was

but ye 33% still kinda wild

[balmy condor]

Just wait till you see a 40%+ sophic log

[timber meadow]

[keen spruce]

[timber meadow]

i mean this guy got 33% call uptime + 23% sophic

thats still pretty gang shit

[void mesa]

"L pull just proc more bozo"

Were full rng based for high end parsing

[rain mortar]

Anyone willing to take a quick look at this and let me know if there are any major problems? Going to main rogue next tier so need all the help I can get https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DqZt4TbvMaBAhYxW#fight=4&type=damage-done&source=29

[strange python]

One of the top kaz logs is 53%

[balmy condor]

Plug it into wowanalyzer

[balmy condor]

Yeh, 2023 parsing

Very advanced

[strange python]

I hate it tbh. I swing from 85-90 range to 99 range depending on sophic/trinket. It's pretty unfun.

10% sophic+trinket is sleepmode

[timber meadow]

so garrote should be the first global used after sepsis (except for in the opener)?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[timber meadow]

in the opener it should just be the first stealth ability used after sepsis but should try to let your initial empowered garrote tick before overwriting with the sepssis empowered garrote

[timber meadow]

gang shit

also i was using vers cause i didn't think it was that big a deal

but crit actually lets me change stats on my gear and shit

[timber meadow]

in opener, would you ideally garrote as close to the first sepsis buff falling off as possible to maximize the duration of your initial empowered garrote?

[balmy condor]

Doesn’t make a difference in opener

You still have the second sepsis garrote

No matter when you cast the first the second will max pandemic

I guess unless you purposefully try to like sepsis gar dm shiv or some shit

But that first sepsis garrote in your opener is just there to bridge the gap from the opener garrote to the second sepsis garrote

[timber meadow]

gotcha so just fit it in whenever it makes to build cps

but dont matter for reasons you said due to the second overriding anyway

[agile osprey]

FINALLY

DONE

[blazing jewel]

it works pretty well to use the first sepsis garrote as a way to hit an anima cp

[fallen forge]

does feint work on zskarn beams?

[balmy condor]

Ye

[fallen forge]

tyty

[paper otter]

heya, the second sepsis - do we hold it untl second death mark ?

[balmy condor]

Not fully

But you can delay it for about 10-15 seconds to make sure it covers the whole Deathmark

[dark token]

I thought you use on CD and vanish to cover the end of the sepsis garrote at around 2:00-2:10

[balmy condor]

Yeah, that’s the easiest option

[edgy basalt]

Hi here. Do you use maccro in assa? Maybe shiv with thea? Mark of death with popo burst ?

Or its not a good idea ?

[balmy condor]

I have no fucking clue what popo burst is

But no

There aren’t any macros

[edgy basalt]

^^ i mean potion for opener.
But ok ok

[balmy condor]

Potions probably okay I guess

Might not be ideal for some of the bosses next tier with increased damage phases

[edgy basalt]

Ok. Thx

[devout jasper]

hey guys, can anyone help me for log review mythic, i already use analyzer

[clever sapphire]

and what seems to be the issue with analyzer?

[devout jasper]

in my amalgam fight i didnt use sepsis’s second stuff for improved garrote

and some times my finishers are wrong because dot uptimes are have 4 or 5 sec

[clever sapphire]

well sepsis one is more big, dots should always be up. It shows as as a problem when you cast envenom with 4 sec on rupture/garrote, because if you mess something up and the dots falls off its a problem

[devout jasper]

yea true sometimes i didnt get crit so i cant reach 5 cp

[earnest remnant]

Sounds like you need to pay better attention to dot timers and their pandemic ranges

[devout jasper]

i’m using luxthos for timers and wa says 7-8 for rupture and 6-7 for garrote

is that timers are true?

[earnest remnant]

rupture 8.4 at 6 cp and
garrote 5.4

[devout jasper]

hmm okey

[scarlet orbit]

do i refresh rapture in pandamic or before it runs out?

[earnest remnant]

well those 2 would be the same thing

pandemic range would be before it runs out

[scarlet orbit]

yea then waiting for it to run out was buffed garrott then?

[earnest remnant]

yeah improved garrote

you let run out

[clever sapphire]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[clever sapphire]

@scarlet orbit

[gilded oasis]

Guys plz stop saying pandemic

[grim jay]

do you mean to say we should let your memory of the questions run out instead of refreshing in pandemic window?

[spice spire]

Yeah too bad that Covid is endemic now

Checkmate liberal

[gilded oasis]

Covid was just the flu in a costume checkmate bozo

Also I hope you have a nice Thursday @spice spire

[spice spire]

Brother I wish, maybe then I wouldn’t have mild PTSD

And no

[gilded oasis]

Yes I demand you have a good Thur

I'll drive over and kick your shin

[spice spire]

Gotta find me first bozo

And that requires coming to nashville. Wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy

[gilded oasis]

I'll be in Chattanooga watch out

[spice spire]

I love chatt

Very underrated town

[gilded oasis]

Yeah it's kinda cute.

[spice spire]

But then you have to drive through monteagle to get here

L bozo

[gilded oasis]

They have a nice giraffe that likes lettuce

[spice spire]

Oh that’s right you’re a zoo fiend, right?

[gilded oasis]

Yeah idk why I hate them and it's sad but I like to look at animals

We're going on an underground boat trip Fri. Maybe I'll get left behind

[spice spire]

Yeah same.
It’s natural.
I’m not one to judge that because I feel similar.
Underground boat

[gilded oasis]

Gonna be pog

[spice spire]

Have fun, I do enjoy Chattanooga a bit, city on a river that isn’t Knoxville is

[gilded oasis]

I'm johnny Knoxville welcome to jackass

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/tennessee-football-tennessee-vols-volunteers-rocky-gif-25275315

Close enough

[dark token]

what is a good 2 target opener with the single target build? debating putting up additional ruptures/garrotes or just sending my sepsis DM and doing that after

[sweet dawn]

Probably something like garrote > snd > garrote target 2 > mut > rupture > reprimand target 1 > rupture > sepsis > dm > shiv?

[spice spire]

Why wouldn’t you just er rupture and skip the Mut?

[halcyon arch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tough dawn]

@balmy condor Mate, somewhere i can find your plater settings?

[balmy condor]

Wago.io/p/whispyr

[tough dawn]

❤️

[earnest remnant]

@balmy condor but how cringe is this kill timer for assa man

-.-

[balmy condor]

[earnest remnant]

did not think it was gonna be that quick so my 2nd dm was just send on cd, outside of execute -.-

[halcyon arch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[drifting cloud]

? xd

didnt you kill it like 4:10 before, but yeah thats fast

[earnest remnant]

i was sub i think

[drifting cloud]

are u cooking sark today you said next week

[earnest remnant]

when we did 4:10

next week

our hpal is gone

[drifting cloud]

we got the important bosses

kazzara and assault

crazy you just do them all first try

[half dawn]

i think im addicted to playing assa in keys

should i be looking at overall parse % or key % btw? IDK if any of those values are relevant

[drifting cloud]

theyre mostly not, key parses are weird in general

its mostly about the level and timer, not so much with your dps

[half dawn]

ah right

i thought they'd be useful to compare v/s other rogues

[neat plank]

it's not useless but it's hard to compare yourself Vs. not only different comps but different size pulls, affixes, etc.

[half dawn]

yeah i feel you

man its anoying this week tanks dont wait 4 seconds to kill 1 spiteful before pulling boss

stealthless opener

[clever sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZDPFk_Zog&t=1s

all i got to say

if the man himself talks 30 mins about it, nobody shall complain

[half dawn]

cool video thanks for linking

[vestal wren]

can i have a tl;dr video about it

[clever sapphire]

stealth no matter, its just , do big damage now

[sullen gyro]

Stealth is a nice to have

And iron wire is occasionally high value

[drifting cloud]

wait the video

is actually 33min long

[clever sapphire]

yep

[balmy condor]

I didn’t want to have to make a part 2

[shy heron]

#assassination message

[quiet oar]

But but

Garrote?

[shy heron]

Believe it or not, covered in the tldr

[half dawn]

man

i got turbo destroyed on BH by this destro lock

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fkN3GhPrgyA69M2H#fight=last&type=damage-done

[gilded oasis]

The electric boogaloo

[onyx sandal]

I just wanted to share, last night I went Sin AND WE KILLED EXPERIMENTS!

[balmy condor]

Let’s goooooo

[quiet oar]

Looking forward to All the 30 min Videos for every boss

In the next Tier

[onyx sandal]

I went from Sub to Sin, instantly did 30k more dps in burst. That kinda made me mad. Lol

[quiet oar]

I mean sub is all about little dmg Windows

Not about high burst

[onyx sandal]

Well I mean, also sub is shit at 2 targets.

Lol

[spice surge]

Just you wait until 10.2 man

[quiet oar]

Ye i know

I dont even know what to play first

When Patch Drops

Probsbly outlaw

[onyx sandal]

Outlaw I heard just is 20% better than everyone else.

[spice surge]

Dhs and bm are up there with them, but also its ptr numbers, they dont matter much

Outlaw is gonna get a chunky aura nerf and be reasonable

[half dawn]

Outlaw will prob get nerfed

sadly

btw is it more useful to post logs or recordings of keys to get tips on how to improve

[strange python]

Bring back DFA Sub rogue from legion

[royal lantern]

secret tech is dfa 2.0

litearlly fills the same purpose but without the animation lock+forced movment of DfA

[timber meadow]

Bm?

[winged veldt]

BM hunter

[timber meadow]

Didn’t realize bm was tuned well on ptr?

[grand swan]

What could be a reason that my Deadly poison is doing less damage than other Sin rogues on a specific boss?
can provide logs if that helps but i believe to be following the prio order etc correctly..

[balmy condor]

could be improved poison being untalented, lack of melee hits so lack of poison hits, a big difference in mastery/haste, bad envenom uptime for some reason, large ilvl differences

[grand swan]

Sorry shouldve given more info:
Ilvl only 2-3 off, im simmed for optimal as much as i can with what i have, only missing one or two optimal pieces. Same talents. Just can't seem to get my parses to compare with people in same range. generally floating around 50 .My sims aren't valueing haste quite as much as some others seem to value it but im following the sim ..

[balmy condor]

plug it into wowanalyzer I guess

[grand swan]

ill try that thanks

[silk bane]

i want a whole series now.

isnt it ironic that whispyr needs to pi himself IRL, just stacking abck to abck green apple monsters, to keep up with in game sin energy?

#NERF VW

[balmy condor]

need to pi myself irl to make my videos 20% faster

[main vessel]

Just drink a Red Bull

It’ll give you Wings

[balmy condor]

I used to be a redbull drinker

[spice spire]

Green apple monster gives you top tho

[balmy condor]

but I do be cutting sugar out

and sugar free red bull

is actually ass

[spice spire]

Sugar free Red Bull my goat

It tastes so bad I’m guaranteed to be awake

[balmy condor]

its crazy how like coke zero can taste pretty much just like coke

[spice spire]

That was my secret for the 3 hour sleep era

[balmy condor]

but sugar free red bull tastes like the piss of someone who drank a regular red bull

[spice spire]

I’d crush two in the am and awake all day

[silk bane]

??? sir??? whos giving you top?? sir???

[spice spire]

[silk bane]

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

you know how like it's carbonated so it's tingly right and then like you crack one open and it fizzes

[silk bane]

just like me fr fr

[ember mural]

sugar free venom my goat

[silk bane]

lowkey no calorie monster goes hard though

I used to drink a lot but then I replaced it with coffee.... not the best decision ive ever made since im now drinking like 4-5 a day...

[fallen forge]

fellas how bad is 11% sophic and 13% suffering trinket uptime on a boss

[balmy condor]

well below average

[gilded oasis]

You're gross

[fallen forge]

cringe the one time we kill mythic zskarn i get doggy proc

[pure moth]

@agile osprey @keen spruce late night mega? 🙂

[quiet oar]

Thats always the case

[keen spruce]

[fallen forge]

dw it was only my second night of mythic prog i'll surely get good procs if we reclear

[keen spruce]

anyone got a tank alt that can come do the first two of dawn rq

[quiet oar]

I can Tell you out of experience. People will wipe on bosses Till you get Bad procs

[grim jay]

Even 4-5 coffee are probably healthier

But what can I say

Im a sucker for Monster Ultra Zero aswell

[quiet oar]

Monster mango loco

[grim jay]

The green paradise and Lewis hamilton ones

[quiet oar]

Doctor one is also goodge

[grim jay]

But I kinda only drink a few in hard weeks

Else I moved away from energy and coffee

[quiet oar]

Thats good, i Drink Too much of them

2-3 a week

[earnest remnant]

[grim jay]

I mean one of them a day is theoretically fine, but yet again all the unknowns and weird studies about sweeteners

Theres always x is unhealthy, y is fine, no y now is unhealthy

[quiet oar]

I dont know if that indicates you Drink more or less

[grim jay]

Id expect stealthy to drink more

[quiet oar]

Tbf you cant live perfectly healthy without spending huge amount of money

[grim jay]

I do on other food

[earnest remnant]

i drink alot more than that

[quiet oar]

Yeah but i mean in general

[grim jay]

I spend like 400-450 on good

[quiet oar]

I mean you are a raccoon

[grim jay]

Food a month

[quiet oar]

You have to be up All night

[earnest remnant]

id probably guess that im slightly addicted to caffeine

[quiet oar]

Caffeine addiction

[balmy condor]

I’m not addicted to caffeine

cracks open my 17th can of monster

[earnest remnant]

i drink like 800ml of coffee during my first 3 hours of being awake

and then maybe 1-2 energy drinks during the evening

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-funny-fall-gif-21290971

steallthi and his heart at the ripe age of 25

[fringe fern]

How hard is assass to get into? I've played 10 years of feral druid

[earnest remnant]

i do eat healthy and workout alot, so atleast we got a bit of counter weight

[quiet oar]

Working out with energy in Hand

To get the heart pumping really hard

[grim jay]

Literally BANGING in his chest

I used caffeine pills during my earlier days

For training

[earnest remnant]

now imagine if we took preworkout as well

now that would be a banger

[earnest remnant]

about the same tbh

there isnt really anything overly complicated about rogue in general anymore

[balmy condor]

I walked up a flight of stairs, so I’m gonna reward myself with a donut and a vodka redbull

Amen

[earnest remnant]

ah, the heartattack cocktail

man of culture ic

[quiet oar]

That happens already when i take the steps instead of the elevator

[storm forum]

I want a donut

I want a glazed donut so fucking bad rn

[fallen forge]

[balmy condor]

If you provide the donut I’ll glaze it for you

Might take me like 30-45 minutes though

[storm forum]

[fallen forge]

give me 2 minutes i can do it for free

mr marathon out here tryna flex

[storm forum]

Fuck wait I should've rolled with it

Is so donut shaped

Glaze that pls

[grim jay]

Glaze deez

[quiet oar]

Okok Mr marathon

[balmy condor]

I’m not that impressive, I need a short break in the middle for a monster

[quiet oar]

Whisp flexing on All of us Sprint warriors

[keen spruce]

whenever i get donut cravings

i regret ordering them

cuz u cant door dash like

one donut

then u end up eating a box of donuts

and wanna die

[tough dawn]

@balmy condor Shadow dance works with Carnage? Shadow dance = stealth? Shadow dance trigger subterfuge? When is good moment in rotation to use Shadow Dance? 🤔

[balmy condor]

I assume this is for 10.2 and you’re just in the wrong channel, so in order:

Yes, yes, no, on cooldown synced with kingsbane check pins in #tww-assassination

[tough dawn]

Thanks a lot. I am new with wow discord channels so i am sorry for mistake

[balmy condor]

Np

[spice spire]

Hater

[fallen forge]

what's a good improved garrote uptime % for bosses?

[grim jay]

100% of the ones you could fit into the fight

[austere snow]

Hi guys, I'd like to swap from sub to assa and thus stats are a clownfiesta atm. Can someone tell me what's the minimum % of haste required in order to function?

I'm not a lazy fc.k so i simmed myself ( https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vvGLQq8MRFwpeZqAQbe9fP ).

[grim jay]

There is no minimum

And we dont sim statweights

[austere snow]

Goal is ST dps since M aberrus progress

[austere snow]

Oh...I see. Then I guess my best approach is to recraft items according to sims and check them constantly since haste will obv drop after 1-2 items, correct? @grim jay

[grim jay]

You just throw whatever you have in topgear sim and let the robot pick whats best.

You can add all the crafted versions to topgear #tc-research message that way

And you dont need to do any resimming

[austere snow]

Alright! Sounds cool

Thx a lot

[grim jay]

And really abandon stat weight sims, they are outdated and unreliable for gearing

[uncut walrus]

Any way to make the recount not refresh when on dummies ?

[light crater]

With the nerfs to the embellishments.... do we want to run with lariat again instead of toxic+boots?

[spice surge]

Dynamic overall

[soft shale]

embellish are kinda wip because the new ones are super underpowered

chances are there is a new tuning pass

but if they don't change anything linen might overtake others

lariat is also kinda sus

[timber meadow]

is there any good reason to track amp poison stacks in aoe? i kinda just figure it'll get used and not really change rotation but figured id ask

[slate crown]

I don't think there's any decision that is changed based on amp poison stacks. I don't track it at all

[timber meadow]

yeah that makes sense to me

[half dawn]

is using voice of silent star recommended

Over regular cloak?

I lose about 25k hp with voice and idk

[somber sparrow]

It’s just a super minor dps increase

[vagrant obsidian]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[muted ridge]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[muted ridge]

what did I even expect

[warped plank]

hey yall, im curious as to who took the toxic thornwraps over slimys? im seeing a lot of people running slimy and im just wondering if people have noticed a difference at all?

[proven jasper]

People that run slimy usually multispec into sub or something

Thorn is better for assa but its not a big difference

[warped plank]

ah i didnt know if the extra vers would help a bit in keys

over the haste for tick damage i assume?

[proven jasper]

Iirc i think its more about the haste loss

Sub/outlaw dont really care about haste as a stat

[raw oasis]

Sorry if this question was answered somewhere but in retail (not PTR), is there any gain from letting Improved Garrotes fully expire and then starting a new non buffed one or is refreshing just before it expires fine?

[amber blaze]

Sin need to restealth in order to perform.

[amber blaze]

no you lose the last / 2 last ticks of improved if you do this

[balmy condor]

No

[amber blaze]

so there is a gain in letting it expire

[clever sapphire]

my man reacted with a bait emoji to the man himself

and he isnt even pink

end of story

[amber blaze]

I'm still learning don't mind me

[timber meadow]

whats the difference between and in wow analyzer? like one is "perfect" and one is "good" but iono what wowanalyzer thinks is the difference to make that classification

[balmy condor]

You can see the timing on it under

The good one you probably cast shiv but late

[timber meadow]

gotcha i see

[merry raven]

oh, Whispyr is awake - watched your energy video, noticed that despite frequent comments about how much APM is "too much" but I dont think I heard you say at all where you'd actually like the APM to land. Obv its all preference, but was curious where you'd personally consider ideal APM

[timber meadow]

sick kill time

[balmy condor]

50ish

[merry raven]

so not too much lower. im still trying to get out of an "always be pressing something" mentality so i found that vid quite interesting

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tree-fiddy-south-park-lock-gif-5759991

[balmy condor]

Yeh it’s still pretty drastic though

Like going from 57ish to 50

Is like nearly 15%

[merry raven]

so generally speaking, you're just vibing and autoattacking during envenom? assuming bleeds are up and not in a KB window, etc

[timber meadow]

is this a mistake? i purposely hold vanish for my 2nd deathmark cause i dont need vanish on opener and all the good logs i used to catch back up with assa on were doing this

[void mesa]

Totally fine

[timber meadow]

or are you supposed to like hold sepsis

and send vanish earlier

aight so wowanalyzer just needs to be updated to not count that as a mistake?

[balmy condor]

Technically you should be using it after your opener and then having the sepsis cover the 2 min Deathmark

But it’s pretty minor

[timber meadow]

ahh okay

wlel thats easy enough to do

just didn't see any logs doing that (ims ure they're there i prob just misssed em)

[void mesa]

Like it depends on killtime

[timber meadow]

yeah 100%

[void mesa]

Cuz on some timer youd probably even delay sepsis to hit execute + dm and shit

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t really

It’s the same casts regardless

[timber meadow]

well same # of casts but if you can hold sepsis for execute why not?

or your just saying it doesn't matter in terms of sending your vanish in opener

ngl im kinda confused how my log isn't even like 90+ in heroic lol... i make a few mistakes but like its pretty fuckin clean on wow analyzer

and i had decent uptime on sophic+call as well

like 20% each

[void mesa]

Ilvl?

[timber meadow]

i mean im 444 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P3Yv7RGXgWcqTnrz#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=10

kill time is the only thing about the log that was pretty fucked

3:50

[void mesa]

3:50 is giga scuffed

And yeah, i mean at this point in the season, people are mega farming, so high parsing is getting tough

Like bottom parsers just... dont play anymore

[timber meadow]

seems like i played fairly perfectly (like i made enough mistakes that i wasn't expecting an omega parse) but like 90+ for sure

was just a lil wild lol dont actually care

yeah thats ture and i just startd my rogue like 2.5 weeks ago lol

[balmy condor]

Welcome to 10.1 parsing

[timber meadow]

well retsarted im obv not new to rogue

[void mesa]

Wheres the slot machine gif

[timber meadow]

just like need omega call + sophic ?

[void mesa]

And a wft and a good kill timer

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Burst class

Any time you’re not killing shortly after your burst

[void mesa]

Youre down a whole windfury dude

[balmy condor]

You’re losing damage

[timber meadow]

i had decent of both (20-25% each) and relatively perfect-ish play for 90+

i honestly think it was the kill time

3:50 is like omega fuckety fucked

[void mesa]

4:01 might be worse

[timber meadow]

xD

sepsis is kinda cool though, i like it a lot better than spike

[void mesa]

Yeah

But all-in all, parsins to 90 is a lot of stuff out of your control sadly

[timber meadow]

oh dude im dumb

i shoulda left group

completely forgot asbout wft

[void mesa]

Like if you'd be missing specific raid buffs (like you are), you're already down a lot

Wft is huge on sin

[timber meadow]

thats like 5-8% yeah?

of just free dam

[void mesa]

Idk the percent but its the biggest raid buff for us iirc

[timber meadow]

yeah jesus so wft+a sick kill time

[keen spruce]

it's like 4-5k dps iirc

[void mesa]

Like, no DH/monk = dmg loss as well, same for War shout

[keen spruce]

so more like 3%ish

[timber meadow]

and that parse coulda been omega ... but i see what yall are sayin

lotta external factors

[void mesa]

If youre hitting 80+ consistently without a group farming your parse, youre chilling imo

(Maybe im just coping but yeknow)

[timber meadow]

oh yeah im not worried bout it more just was kinda interesting to see

usually im like straight 99s in heroic but thats just cause you play earlier in the tier

[void mesa]

Pull to pull I feel I play the same, wowa says I play the same

And I get 95 and 84 so idk

[timber meadow]

when noobs play

[void mesa]

Trick is play tuesday night on new partition xd

[timber meadow]

lmfao

true

[keen spruce]

or just be stealthi

and kill bosses in like 14 seconds

[void mesa]

Being in Colours should be auto dq

(Jk love you raccoon)

[gusty mirage]

true

[leaden sundial]

Is there any way that i can min max bomb dispenser on single target on assasination rogue ?

[keen spruce]

press it on cd

[leaden sundial]

thanks. So macro it is

and never need to think about it

[keen spruce]

if you have no on use trinkets then yeah macro is fine

if you're using beacon it's worth considering having it's own keybind

[flint pond]

Anyone got the hypergrab emote

[gusty mirage]

[flint pond]

Ty king

[sweet dawn]

where2get from??

[flint pond]

Right here

[strange python]

What build is the best for Ass?

Do I use sepsis, or dragon tempered blades

[clever sapphire]

huh

you have.... both in st?

[strange python]

Well I am trying to figure what the best build for M+/ST for Ass.

[sweet dawn]

ACtually joins server

[clever sapphire]

and in aoe you just dont have sepsis

[strange python]

Hmm.

[clever sapphire]

#assassination-faq message

this is st

[strange python]

This?

[clever sapphire]

thats the build you dont play

[strange python]

Oh okay.

[clever sapphire]

even says not recommended

[strange python]

Gotcha

So the one you posted I should use.

[clever sapphire]

for M+ or raid

i still didnt fully get your question

[strange python]

M+

Well, right now I am just leveling.

[runic hinge]

I played it in last week in a couple 22’s and a 23 just to throw people off.

[clever sapphire]

during leveling its whatever, assa leveling is probably the worst rogue spec to lvl on

[clever sapphire]

i was triggering whispyr with it when it got discovered

[strange python]

I was playing Outlaw.

[clever sapphire]

outlaw probably still better i would say

[strange python]

Wanted to try something different.

[clever sapphire]

but all rogue specs suck for leveling

sub just sucks the least amount

[strange python]

Oh okay.

[clever sapphire]

for leveling go with the build i sent you

[runic hinge]

Tbh I have a lot of fun with it but your boss damage is just nonexistent

[strange python]

I am.

[clever sapphire]

and replace sepsis with bonespike for the time being probably

[strange python]

Thanks.

[clever sapphire]

because sepsis is not really taht pog for leveling i would assume

[clever sapphire]

ye and thats the part i dont like about the build

[runic hinge]

I do my keys with a demo lock getting pi so I just let him kill bosses for me

[clever sapphire]

well i do pugs

and there have been moments where i was top boss dmg with that build, that should sum up why i dont like the build

[runic hinge]

I have done very little pugging outside crest farming this patch. Keeping my sanity intact

[clever sapphire]

i have lost it a while ago