nothing will change and you'll have the update exsng
#assassination
quick idol
limber lion
The "Alpha" here is what you would change to change the transparency
gaunt moat
We'll see. sometimes things just break when you update. but yeah, if it's just gonna be minor changes like that, then i'll bring in only the specific WA
limber lion
So you click on the Rogue Utility group, click "Display" at the top, click the "Extra options" in the middle to open up the settings
then change the alpha there
slate crown
The more base-line Weakaura functionality your auras use, and the less custom stuff, the less stuff will break with updates
quick idol
I tried to simplify my WA and removed kick from it. My kick indicator is on the mob cast bar
If i can kick
or when kick will be available
limber lion
I tried to simplify my WA and removed kick from it. My kick indicator is on the ...
Yeah that's fine too
I have bigwigs timers directly on top of my combo points as well
quick idol
I have bigwigs timers directly on top of my combo points as well
I'v seen this more and more these days
Should give it a shot as well
limber lion
Yeh been like this since Legion for me, don't have to ping pong my eyes around the screen
Only stuff that's over 10s away will be displayed far away next to the map
Because it's not something I need to react to immediately
quick idol
Yeh been like this since Legion for me, don't have to ping pong my eyes around t...
Oh ok ! I'v seen many streamers with that during past month and believed it was a new trend
gaunt moat
I think the biggest modification to functionality was to KB and shiv, so that shiv would glow when KBs at 6s or if i got 2 charges of shiv and KB is applied but not shiv.
limber lion
But stuff that happens within 10s I can instantly react to when I see it pop up
limber lion
I think the biggest modification to functionality was to KB and shiv, so that sh...
But that's not custom lua or anything, that's just using base weak aura options
Stuff like that does not break with updates
slate crown
I'm a fan of reducing icons, though can't reduce them all. Like I made Thistle Tea into these little bubbles instead of an Icon. They're typically a staple of both Sub and Sin, and the info I need from them is gained from when my eyes are quickly glancing in this area anyways, and, IMO for me, it's easier to interpret the presence of icons as a number of charges rather than reading the number "2". Anything that can reduce any amount of processing time.
gaunt moat
yeah
that's really neat
i like that
can you share it? (just the thistle tea part)
limber lion
I'm a fan of reducing icons, though can't reduce them all. Like I made Thistle T...
Yeah there's some people who make (or used to make) super duper customized weak auras without any bars or stuff like that
Like a head around the frame, whose eyes would track Shiv count and if both are lit you're at max stacks
You can get super creative
And avoid the bar/icon system most of us have in place
gaunt moat
That was kinda the idea with the sepsis Aura I made.
But also because at some point sepsis was used to use ambush
slate crown
Sure let me make sure there's nothing silly in them like random comments
spice surge
Yeah there's some people who make (or used to make) super duper customized weak ...
Famously the my little pony ui from the world first garrosh 10 man kill 
slate crown
Ultimately I think that weakauras #1 priority should be that you look at them as little as possible. Pretty fancy weakauras that look cool and flashy go against their purpose. You want to make split second decisions based on what info they convey, you could make an artistic masterpiece that is ultimately inefficient and is counter productive
limber lion
Like this guy is tracking Adrenaline Rush with the bottles, RTB with the wheel in the middle, combo points in the middle with the kraken thingy
Can get pretty creative
gaunt moat
That looks amazing. but i could never use that.
the information is too hard to parse
he also made on for sin i see
limber lion
The Sub one is even more dank
Yeh
Looks super cool and whatnot, but it's just not for me lol
mellow osprey
that looks like it should be the default UI
limber lion
But yeah, completely custom elements
Just to show it's possible to do a lot of stuff and be super creative
This shit was done like 5+ years ago as well
Imagine the possibilities now
mellow osprey
boys after not having played rogue for the entire expansion because of the most stupid reason ever, i might come back for 10.2
slate crown
I removed the screenshot setting from the Tea aura before uploading, but just a heads up you can use this to anchor them to your energy bar aura
mellow osprey
hype
gaunt moat
thanks
spice surge
https://youtu.be/pUhdIdXQYOI?si=NP8M_T05yUAqytD6&t=83
Look at this monstrosity of weakauras
mellow osprey
that is fucked up
mellow osprey
as much as i love customizing my UI i also wish addons weren't even allowed and everyone saw the same exact thing
the duality of man
spice surge
https://twitter.com/bigmoranirl/status/1687220632419799041?s=46&t=OAFq8ai0C0pTDj...
Have weebs gone too far?
quiet oar
I mean @keen spruce has almost a pepe interface
void mesa
the pepe UI from shmeeps is sick
gaunt moat
@slate crowncool works perfectly
slate crown
They turn orange when the charge is about to come back, I think I set it to 10s by default, of course feel free to customize in conditions
gaunt moat
i was literally just about to ask about it
slate crown
There are obvious drawbacks to doing it this way, like you can't tell if they are 50 seconds or 30 seconds away but... is that important? I haven't been in a situation where that is important imo, so didn't show it. Again personal preference. Also you can't see the Mastery buff duration but again, do you ever make decisions based on if you do/don't have the mastery buff? I don't, so yeeted it. If there comes a time where we will in the future I'll adjust
gaunt moat
I can still keep the thistle tea icon on the side where it is right now for the whole CD if i want to.
And i never tracked the mastery buff either
modest karma
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
gaunt moat
it might be useful for KB but i doubt we'll play around it
But I'm thinking of changing one thing
I have a habit of using tea when I have too much energy
Maybe i'll make them red, and then change to green when i'm at like a 150~ deficit
slate crown
Now just wait for your energy bar to reach down near the bubbles and only use tea when it's down there. I make my energy bar change color when I'm at a 115 deficit, doesn't immediately mean use tea every time, but it calls my attention to how low I am so I start thinking about it
Though I could probably increase that deficit, I think I originally created this condition for sub where you only have 150 energy instead of 170, either way what I have works for me but the concept is good, deficit -> color change. Also who knows how much this'll change with 10.2
craggy basin
Anyone have a good WA for tracking improved Garrote
split veldt
hmm, turned the alpha to 100 but it's still dim
slate crown
@craggy basin
slate crown
hmm, turned the alpha to 100 but it's still dim
Check conditions on any of them (they're probably all similar conditions, though ones that provide buffs are probably different), that's also a place where that often changes
deft flicker
Though I could probably increase that deficit, I think I originally created this...
Well, you might want to tweak the deficite quite a bit with a 300 energy pool
slate crown
Oh yeah for sure, I haven't worked on updating my stuff yet till 10.2 is more settled but there's going to have to be adjustments
gaunt moat
Yeah changing the bar color makes a lot more sense
split veldt
Check conditions on any of them (they're probably all similar conditions, though...
ah, yes there was alpha settings in conditions too
ty
victory
slate crown
You probably want to check each individually, because probably not all of those use the same conditions, but you can right click an aura and Copy Settings -> Conditions, then Paste Condition settings onto another aura. Be careful with it but it's a shortcut that can come in handy
gaunt moat
they actually look even more visible against a darker background
slate crown
Nice
Might conflict with the orange color, but you can adjust that to something else
gaunt moat
Don't tell realz, but 90% of the reason i want SnD removed, is so that i won't track it on my WA 
craggy basin
<:dracthyr_sip:1002333380056195112> <@184193890142781440>
sorry didnt see the tag, thanks a lot!!
mellow osprey
Don't tell realz, but 90% of the reason i want SnD removed, is so that i won't t...
100% of the reason i want SnD removed is that when it was first removed I used the same hotkey for garrote and I still mess up the buttons to this day
gaunt moat
muscle memory is a blessing and a curse
slate crown
Ugh one thing I hate about Afenar though is that there are a bunch of sections in weakauras that don't get removed when you uncheck them. Like Afenar's old version of the Energy bar used the Load code section to add info about changing colors, but now that's not necessary. But if you check the Load box, all that code gets loaded and run, which breaks the bar until you reload ui.
Just not cleaned up
quick idol
Is PI a big deal for assa or not ? For raid tonight our UH and demo are not here and i have 3 of them to assign
blazing jewel
Not really
Kinda okay with a spriest because 2 mins like up but it’s still not a prime target
blazing jewel
Likely not super important unless you are getting hard dps checked on a boss
spice surge
Assa is definitely a good PI target, just not the best like Dev, Unholy or Demo
Probably better to give to assa than BM
gaunt moat
Is PI a big deal for assa or not ? For raid tonight our UH and demo are not her...
This will help prioritize PIs
quick idol
It's written
quick idol
blazing jewel
And if they don’t they have a disclaimer
blazing jewel
If you scroll towards the bottom of the pi page you can see when the apl calls for pi
quick idol
I'v legit never seen the other charts ahaha
gaunt moat
BM doesn't have an Asterix next to it's name, so it should be accurate
balmy condor
external_buffs.power_infusion=6/126/246/366
No
external_buffs.pool=power_infusion:120
limber lion
It's true
clever sapphire
gonna be first time on mythic magmadog, anything i should pay attention to? as far as i know its just do dmg and live
blazing jewel
Don’t go swimming in lava
spice spire
Also GM sleepyhead
balmy condor
Hello
clever sapphire
aight so kinda how i imagined it
spice spire
How u feeling this am
balmy condor
Feeling like busting a move
signal badger
How are you awake rn
shy axle
is there a situation where you would play instant + deadly or do you always use amp > deadly > all?
spice spire
Currently amp > deadly > rest
balmy condor
clever sapphire
well magmadog so easy, joined a guild to trial in, 11th pull got the kill
we dont talk about logs tho
signal badger
Personally I find it hard to live on that fight, tho I tend to have 20 stacks after we start moving the boss
stark ravine
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
astral wharf
quick opener question: Does it make sense to pull a TT on the opener? feel like mine sits on 3 stacks too long if I dont, even if its kinda wasted
plucky canopy
Hi guys, i need some help... startet working on my sin game a bit, but i feel like i am doing something kinda wrong.. anyone able to review my rashok log? appreciate any advise u can give me 🙂 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AVpPcXqa2hrRC9wY#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=4
clever sapphire
quick opener question: Does it make sense to pull a TT on the opener? feel like ...
you use it with dm on pull
im pretty sure its in the opener picture even
blazing jewel
quick opener question: Does it make sense to pull a TT on the opener? feel like ...
Even outside of pull if you ever hit 3 during an encounter just send it
tribal spear
can i use cold blood to guarentee a crit for the beacon trinket?
void mesa
No
spice spire
is 65k ST good for 428 ilvl?
This means nothing.
Do you have 4p? Trinkets? Weapons? Just compare it with your sim and that should tell you if you’re in the right direction
spice spire
Kinai log review
full summit
Sim says 73k 😭
spice spire
8k off.
How long were you hitting whatever. Was it 5m? 10m? 400m?
Did you follow basic guidelines of the spec? Chances are you’re fine
full summit
5m's
spice spire
But just rawdogging stats and saying is this good tells us nothing 
Logs help this though!
spice spire
I mean logging your dummy sessions
full summit
Oh you can log those?
spice spire
Yes
spice spire
Just run live logs while you’re hitting a dummy. Should run anything you do
hushed fable
raider.io app allows you to toggle logging automaticly. But you can also do it manually by entering /combatlog in chat to start logging and then /combatlog to stop it. To upload log you'd need warcraftlogs app.
full summit
got it alr thank u tho
fallen forge
whats our opener for st in our m+ talent setup?
brittle basin
dumb question, deathmark isnt a snapshot of the current bleeds on the target right? refreshing bleeds isnt an issue? (outside of empowered garrotes)
spice surge
Its not a snapshot no
vast swan
I'm doing M+ in DF for the first time ever, running with a static team and we're doing 17s/18s. Even though sin is... not great for M+, I feel like I should be doing better dps than I am. Would someone be willing to let me DM them a log and tell me what I'm doing wrong in a non-flamey way?
gusty mirage
sure
gusty mirage
#assassination-faq has recommended builds
old obsidian
for ptr?
spice surge
#tww-assassination pins
old obsidian
xD
old obsidian
thx (: (?)
fallen forge
in 2-4 targets do we mut or fon for combo point generation?
gusty mirage
in 2-4 targets do we mut or fon for combo point generation?
3+ you use fok as a builder
fallen forge
how do yall compare your st damage on like magmorax if you have an aug evoker in the group? i cant tell how close to the sim im getting without that buff
spice surge
how do yall compare your st damage on like magmorax if you have an aug evoker in...
You can check logs to see how much damage youre doing without the augs extra added damage
fallen forge
You can check logs to see how much damage youre doing without the augs extra add...
oh how can you separate the aug extra added damage in logs?
spice surge
It is seperated by default
fallen forge
oh okay sweet ty
light warren
yo, just wondering if anyone has explanation why a haste ring is simming 0.3% better then mastery ring?
i thought crit mast was our main stats
granite grail
Because different stat values will be better
You dont want to just giga-stack two stats and thats all you have
The only spec that I know of that full builds one stat to the ends of time is aug, and that only because all of their secondaries suck
runic hinge
Just sim yourself
granite grail
^
light warren
i did
granite grail
What did the sim say
granite grail
Okay then the haste ring is better, I dont see the problem
light warren
i want to know why
granite grail
Because stats dont have a static value and they always change depending on how much of a stat you already have
light warren
but if the mastery ring is worse does that mean i dont want anymore mastery?
spice spire
No
That means you want haste more than you want mastery
It’s not an “I want it or I don’t”
It’s an “I want it all but some more than others”
granite grail
It literally varies by gear
light warren
ok but what i dont understand is if we are all running the same gear the stats should be simular
granite grail
Thats why gear compare and top gear exists on raid bots
Is to see what you specifically want
light warren
except now i have zero idea what i want
granite grail
Thats why you sim it
spice spire
“Ahhh I want haste because I have 6k crit, makes sense”
light warren
yea i dont want to just find gear and then sim
granite grail
It also changes depending on the fight you are simming
Bad news, that literally your only method of determining which gear you actually want
spice spire
yea i dont want to just find gear and then sim
Unless you’re rain man or there’s a mega busted borrowed power (think frost shards craving crit), at a certain point, this is what you gotta do to maximize output.
You can follow loose guidelines
But at a certain point
You’ll be simming every piece
granite grail
This is simming a 447 belt with various stats on training dummy, which is where i'm testing 95% of the time to see if i'm doing stuff correctly. Crit haste is simming above crit mast
granite grail
I've heard call to suffering is a sim trap, because it has such a high variance
same sim on patchwork
Same sim on patchwork, but this time with buffs active
The sim is telling me I want more haste, and in content where I dont have every buff crit is better. Unless you've got the ability to sim every single combination in your head 15000 times, i'd just sim it with raidbots for every piece of gear you get.
light warren
so if every slot was crafted how would we know what we want
hushed fable
We use gear compare with multiple variants of stats on each and every piece.
granite grail
light warren
i just dont udnerstand how if we all farmed the exact same peices how could we not know which items would be better
granite grail
i just dont udnerstand how if we all farmed the exact same peices how could we n...
not everybody has the same exact gear
Thats the problem
It's less about which pieces of gear you have and more about the amount of each stat you have
light warren
no because i would farm the same geir
winged veldt
So you are wanting a bis list is what I am gathering lol.
granite grail
Then why are you simming if you are going to only use the bis list lmao
light warren
because im told to sim
hushed fable
You can't farm some pieces. You can only pray to rngesus to have it in a vault. Keep in mind that trinket from Harlan at 441 and 447 alone can make your stats differ.
winged veldt
The issue is some of that list is going to be things such as daggers from mythic sark and so on and so forth that not everyone could farm so there is no list except go sim the gear in raidbots
Because without 1-2 pieces of it then the whole list changes due to stats you have or don’t.
light warren
for me i would just farm it
granite grail
Everything is time gated, pal
winged veldt
I don’t think you actually grasp what we are saying
hushed fable
How do you farm cloak from Sark then?
spice spire
no because i would farm the same geir
You would then need to farm all items from all mythic bosses and nick of time.
Until you’re near the end, that bis list does not matter at all
light warren
well yeah i would just use whatever till i get there
spice spire
Unless you have the ability to farm the end game content to the top %, you’re not going to have a best list
And the answer is “sim it”
winged veldt
But then you arent optimal and would use raidbots anyways til then
spice spire
Loosely your farming dragonfire, name a second trinket from raid, and nick of time for offhand
winged veldt
Plus anyone able to farm the top % does exactly what everyone is explaining to you to do lol
granite grail
I've tried, guys. I don't know how else to put it
hushed fable
Unless you have the ability to farm the end game content to the top %, you’re no...
Even then it may not be possible due to rare drops that everyone wants. If we use Sark cloak as an example where everyone wants one, and you have something like 26 weeks of a tier, if it does drop every 4 mythic kills or so, there is a chance that you wouldn't get it anyway.
light warren
I udnerstand siming every peice
but what im saying is i need a goal of what to farm
winged veldt
Bruh it took me 16 weeks to get a fucking bomb lol
spice spire
but what im saying is i need a goal of what to farm
Mythic bosses are 90ish% of the drops
granite grail
The goal is whatever sims the best
winged veldt
^
spice spire
The rest is just 447 pieces for tier that you can catalyze and just high ilvl pieces
earnest remnant
quake my beacon finally crit on Assault
plucky canopy
but what im saying is i need a goal of what to farm
Make a droptimizer for every content, take that as your goal, and once u get one item from it, redo the droptomizer and you have a new list to run after 🙂
granite grail
after playing for a while you usually get a sense for what would sim the best
earnest remnant
rank 5 as assa
spice spire
Okay goodbye friends I hope this gear arc ends wells
earnest remnant
i need you to rate my new wa
earnest remnant
28sec
winged veldt
29 seconds lol?
earnest remnant
was the fastest we hve done
winged veldt
Jesus
earnest remnant
Okay goodbye friends I hope this gear arc ends wells
rate it
pure moth
quake my beacon finally crit on Assault
29 seconds...
keen spruce
Heyyy that’s pretty good
light warren
i jsut dont get like. if i farm one item that says is better it could make a different item i already have worse
which then changes everyrthing i need to farm
plucky canopy
Could be, or make a item you already have better
keen spruce
Nano were talking about fractions of a % when changing secondaries
All you need to farm is ilvl
earnest remnant
shmeeps 100% crit KB again
keen spruce
Once you have lots of ilvl
earnest remnant
i need to go buy a lotto ticket
keen spruce
Get some crit and some mastery
granite grail
I think my ui would give people a stroke
keen spruce
Then slap on some haste if the robot tells you to
Then sacrifice a goat to get good sophic and trinket procs
And gg
winged veldt
Then sacrifice a goat to get good sophic and trinket procs
This is the most important
granite grail
I have a steady supply of goats on hand
winged veldt
He has the secret to the proc gods somehow lol
earnest remnant
@keen spruce i love how dumb details look with 4 augs in the raid
that was Rashok when he died
went from 208k on details to that in 1 dm
keen spruce
We’ve only killed echo since august came out 
inner temple
yea i dont want to just find gear and then sim
at your level of play, i would just worry about item level, once you top out your item level for your prefered content (normal/heroic/etc.) then you can start worrying about getting those specific spots to have exact stats the robot tells you to
light warren
well m+ 22's and mythic raid. not on rogue rn since its alt
but i just want to get as min max as a i cna
safe ore
What are the stance ID's for Assassination Rogue
granite grail
Just had an insanely free key and then the enh shaman decided today was the day to do sub 60k overall at 435
indigo epoch
hate that, sorry m8
nimble tartan
runic hinge
but i just want to get as min max as a i cna
The robot mix maxes for you
light warren
yooooooo
gaunt moat
congrats!
light warren
does that item drop at 447 at all?
slate crown
Not this season no
granite grail
Sin is so funny in m+
static glacier
inb4 we're forever farming nick of time
light warren
whats so good about it?
granite grail
Timestrike is p good
void mesa
I just noticed the flavor text
What a joke, I'll never drop one ever 
runic hinge
I just noticed the flavor text
What a joke, I'll never drop one ever <:dead:932...
This week for sure
void mesa
unironically I gave up and aint even doing it Just waiting for next season at this point
light warren
I just noticed the flavor text
What a joke, I'll never drop one ever <:dead:932...
i mean u see it
split veldt
"Vanish is HELD for the 2min Deathmark"
so this means we dont use it all until 2 min?
void mesa
Exact
void mesa
To a degree
Your 2nd sepsis will overlap into the start of DM #2
And once that garotte goes into pandemic you vanish-refresh
dark arrow
been looking at relearning assassination. When you first use death mark do you want to refresh your bleeds even if they were just refreshed or no? just trying to get the rotation down. opener is straight forward, just need practice, and general rotation is super simple, just the rotation when you click DM i'm not 100% on yet.
also is beacon worth using? I see some sin rogues using it but some are not.
balmy condor
been looking at relearning assassination. When you first use death mark do you w...
Refreshing doesn’t matter, it’ll copy the bleeds on the target and you’ll just refresh as normal
Only thing to be aware of is making sure you have improved garrote
dark arrow
Only thing to be aware of is making sure you have improved garrote
and thats where the vanish comes in right? to vanish dm and garrote for the improved garrote?
balmy condor
Correct
dark arrow
simple enough!
dark arrow
Correct
now what about beacon? I saw you in warcraft logs and was looking at your best parse on Kazzara to just look at trinket usage and noticed you were not using it. Looked at wowmeta to see what data was being collected for trinkets with sin rogues and it seemed like some people use it and some doesn't. I have it and use it for ST ( mirror of fractured tomorrows seems to be doing more in AOE as I only have heroic beacon) playing sub. Trying to figure out if I should use it and when to pop it.
balmy condor
Beacon isn’t bis
That’s really bout it
Gets beat by other stuff
I have the other stuff
So I’m trying to get the class trinket to proc
If it doesn’t proc, L
Beacon doesn’t crit, same L
But according to sim on average the beacon is worse so I’m gonna take my chances ya know
dark arrow
ok i'll scrap using beacon. I looked at your sheet thats linked in the FAQ but didn't see a bis list or sims as i'm guessing your going through the ptr 10.2 stuff.
drifting cloud
well beacon is the easiest to get, the other 2 are very rare and you prob have to vault them because even if they drop they wont likely go to a rogue
they just have different rng behind them like whisp said, so yeah just depends what you have
balmy condor
ok i'll scrap using beacon. I looked at your sheet thats linked in the FAQ but d...
Yeh I’m pretty much done with anything non 10.2 atm
drifting cloud
Id love to gamba on class trinket but 14 weeks into farm I dont have it
dark arrow
only trinkets I got is beacon, bomb, mirror, and cull to suffering. fuu's sheet says irideus fragment and bomb is bis, but wasn't sure how accurate fuu's sheet is vs what you had put together (which I see is now gone lol)
balmy condor
Big focus shift is towards 10.2 and that’s where all the attention is going
balmy condor
only trinkets I got is beacon, bomb, mirror, and cull to suffering. fuu's sheet ...
Irideus isn’t simming properly
Which is problematic
It’s simming about 18% higher than it should
dark arrow
Big focus shift is towards 10.2 and that’s where all the attention is going
don't blame ya, its some huge changes it seems, i'm chilling and waiting for you guys to have fun playing around with that all, and to tell us what to do when it drops lmfao
i'm too dumb to figure it all out on my own. you guys are my rogue gods that decree all things rogue 😛
pure tide
any1 got a macro thatll mutil but swap to ambush when it procs?
earnest timber
whats book of shadows command?
dark arrow
any1 got a macro thatll mutil but swap to ambush when it procs?
I don't think thats even possible tbh... I could be wrong though
spice surge
Its not possible no
pure tide
ya i figured lol
balmy condor
whats book of shadows command?
book of shadows doesn't exist
we didn't get a lot of community input on stuff so it ended up just being like 3 of us having to test an entire expansions worth of mechanics multiple times
and the burden was insane for the little payoff it had
so we stopped doing it
earnest timber
Oh ):
broken valve
what is the best race in all of wotlk for rogue?
balmy condor
better off asking a classic discord probably
our only resource for classic is telling people to not come here for classic
light warren
OK this is why simming makes no sense to me
i simmed this ring earlier and it said it was an upgrade
now when i do dropitmizer the ring I REPLACED is now better
in the same ring slot
that makes ZERO sense
plucky canopy
Whispyr do you have something similar to your music programme for setting up cooldowns? Seems very handy for that purpose, but I just found excel (which is okay but not great)
plucky canopy
now when i do dropitmizer the ring I REPLACED is now better
Timestrike dagger 👀👀
light warren
which means that when i get one new better item it makes all my other items bad and i need to re sim everyt single gear peice
i dont have the ring anymore
plucky canopy
Get it bag
light warren
I CANT
plucky canopy
Why?
light warren
I just got my mark of dargul back today because it simmed higher but then when i put it on it simmed lower
plucky canopy
Hold stuff until u are absolut sure u won't need it again
light warren
it makes zero friggen sense
drop said mark was 0.4% better
so i go get it back
then i sim it when i have it
and its 2.4% worse
plucky canopy
I does, cuz stats are way more complicated than just one sim (that's why stats sims are not good)
blazing jewel
mark of dargul is sim bait
probably shouldnt wear it regardless
unless you are down cataclysmic for trinkets
light warren
blazing jewel
yea dont wear dargrul
light warren
no its why simming doesnt help because it will say one thing and then not be true
blazing jewel
did you replace the correct trinket the sim called to change
light warren
yes
plucky canopy
St oder dungeon slice sim?
plucky canopy
And all three said to get that ring from BH and now all three want the FH ring back?
plucky canopy
Can u link those three sims, maybe there is something more to it
plucky canopy
It is not
plucky canopy
Clearly something is wrong with the above one
light warren
its no buffs
plucky canopy
That changes a lot
plucky canopy
Aoe talents for St?
light warren
talents are the same in the sims
plucky canopy
But with aoe talents
light warren
yes
but they are both aoe talent sims
one isnt using stand one is aoe
they are both the same talents
plucky canopy
Yes, but you will have other stats good in ST as in AOE
light warren
but its the same
plucky canopy
It is not, its one with aoe fight and one with ST fight
If you could link those sims we maybe able to help you 🙂
light warren
so how do u gear for st and aoe
plucky canopy
If you are looking for m+ gear, you need to sim both (St and aoe) and think about how to get the best of both worlds. It's not just an right/wrong thing
But since aoe is mostly more dominant in m+, you can value the aoe sim a bit higher
light warren
is it possible to gear for 25+ keys and mythic raid in one set
plucky canopy
But don't get to lost in simming for the last .1% upgrade, your gameplay and decision making is way more important
It is, but I don't think I would be optimal, you will have pieces you swap around. I am not sure how assa stats change for aoe, but for some classes you want to change trinkets or a piece or 2 for different stats
Trinkets you will ne fine with anything from class trinket, experiments trinket, bomb dispenser (maybe the mega dungeon trinket) or even beacon
If you not looking for timing cutting edge keys, you are fine with not getting the last 0.1% best gear (and spoiler you problay never get everything anyway)
light warren
i play like 10 hours a day
plucky canopy
Just enjoy the game, sim yourself from time to time, build up a stock of different items so you can adjust to different scenarios
light warren
Yo whats the main way to get 447 gear? my first toon took me weeks to get ilvl so i slowly got 447 gear from vault. but rogue has only taken me couple days to get 441 so what do i farm now?
crafted gear?
gaunt moat
Great vault by doing +16s
Crafted gear with item that increases ilvl
Mythic raid
granite grail
u think thats low dps?
Thats like 4k lower than mine under the same settings and im 5 ilvls lower, so idk. Could just be trinkets though
light warren
Wow
what trinkets?
because if i sim with call to suffering and dispenser its still only 120
idk how to get 4k higher
can i see your sim
granite grail
I have dispenser and harlans die
light warren
oh the difference was i had corrupting rage uptime at 10% and u have 100%
thats mine with 100% uptime
granite grail
Oh, tbh. Dont use corrupting rage
light warren
is it a br aswell?
granite grail
Swapped phial to elemental chaos and its simming 123k, rather than 124k from an 80% uptime rage
And 80% uptime is not reasonable in prog imo
Yeah, you can add bres to it
light warren
in content i dont use potions or aug runes. i use glacial fury phial
dunno if its bad
granite grail
I use potions, but not aug runes. Elemental Chaos is probably the best flask to use
granite grail
Yes/no. Suffering is really rng based. If you get lucky procs its better. Die is just more consistent
granite grail
No. Megadungeon dagger is supposed to be better
vagrant obsidian
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
clever sapphire
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uL5qvBzdQygfP6pbaDCPze
putting sockets in your neck would also probably help
a gem into your ring
pure moth
is it wrong stats or smth?
the passive damage from the 441 dagger makes it better than a 447
timestrike does roughly 1k ish damage
lapis venture
Hello, das anymore know a YouTube where i can See the Changes to rogue in next Patch? Iam Not smart enough to do the Math and Kind of Like to watch a Video from people that are smart about rogue and next Patch. Thanks you !
Does *
But maybe how it "feels"?
Okay x)
limber lion
But maybe how it "feels"?
Feels good
Whispyr had plenty of Assassination videos on his Youtube
fast zodiac
the passive damage from the 441 dagger makes it better than a 447
the 424 timestrike dagger sims 0.3% better than a 447 crafted for me :S
gusty mirage
Hello, das anymore know a YouTube where i can See the Changes to rogue in next ...
Whispyr started a YouTube channel that should cover most of what you’re asking
modest apex
Does the effect of nick of time stack or would a 441 dagger in main hand with better secondaries be better?
clever sapphire
sim it, but im gonna assume better stats are better
limber lion
Whispyr started a YouTube channel that should cover most of what you’re asking
Hey I said that already
The vids are honestly pretty good
I wish I had a similar resource when I was starting out
gusty mirage
Hey I said that already
hey I saw that after I typed what I did
also ur cute
xoxo
spice spire
I wish I had a similar resource when I was starting out
I had u when I was restarting 
frigid pilot
Are you guys using sepsis garrote last possible time to chain into pandemic?
deft flicker
Are you guys using sepsis garrote last possible time to chain into pandemic?
First one - at once
Second one - close to the buff falling off
frigid pilot
And is that like giga necessary or is it like a .3% increase
grim tangle
I wish I had a similar resource when I was starting out
yeah its really nice for new players like me
clever lake
Yo guys, not a rogue enjoyer.
But I am wondering, assa rogue in my sark prog is running crimson tempest. how good/bad is that? is it good for funneling?
agile osprey
Pretty cringe. I'm still progging but adds don't stay alive long enough for assa to be relevent
void mesa
And if its just the big add, CT doesnt do enough to justify
agile osprey
Funnel big add
clever sapphire
sounds like trolling with extra steps
void mesa
Does he run IC? 
clever lake
IC?
agile osprey
clever sapphire
bonespike aight, ct, now thats some different shit
void mesa
Indiscriminate Carnage
void mesa
if he does ask him to run wound poison 🙃
clever lake
bottom right talent
nah he doesn't
clever sapphire
well atleast he doesnt troll that hard
agile osprey
Homie reading this rn 
void mesa
Cuz yeah, you dont gain much or lose toooo much taking CT, but casting it on that low target count/uptime doesnt bring much
clever sapphire
filthy padder, he should read it
clever lake
Homie reading this rn <:monkaS:585734084014374922>
he is banned from here im pretty sure :p
clever sapphire
send pic 👀
you first 
void mesa
you first <a:PeepoBlushExcited:1083777735060627496>
i can send my talents, but not my logs 
agile osprey
Did brother just drop a zoldyck point for ct?
void mesa
What else would he drop for ct
clever lake
Did brother just drop a zoldyck point for ct?
yes sir
clever sapphire
iq points
void mesa
at least he didnt drop sepsis xd
spice spire
he is banned from here im pretty sure :p
It’s gotta be bad to be banned from here 
Either way
Yeah Ct kinda troll
void mesa
put that point back into zoldyck
clever lake
goddamn HF
void mesa
gonna be better on the big add and Sark
clever sapphire
dropping zoldik for some small aoe is like huh
void mesa
likely to do more dmg overall anyways
spice spire
Oh god it’s hyper fox
grim tangle
hyperfox is banned?
spice spire
Idr if banned or perma’d
spice spire
Nah
void mesa
🥺
spice spire
It legit doesn’t matter and I don’t relish slandering others
(I’m the wrong person to ask)
void mesa
fair enough, youre too reasonable for my dumb wants
You're good quake, keep doing the good work 
earnest remnant
did you see my screenshot last night
void mesa
(I do nothing)
someones gotta do it
spice spire
did you see my screenshot last night
I’d rather not think about it. Bastard
earnest remnant
wdym
void mesa
and np Undercover, best of luck on prog
earnest remnant
my cute ass raccoon wa
spice spire
my cute ass raccoon wa
Oh I did not see that
I thought you meant the beacon crit parse
void mesa
do you have a new wa stealthi?
spice spire
Also I legitimately cannot mentally parse the sequencing youd need for a sub 30 second kill
earnest remnant
spice spire
Oh
earnest remnant
Just saying
i made that wa
and first sub kill in raid in 4 weeks
rank 1
it works
void mesa
damn
earnest remnant
100% effective
void mesa
stealthi just built diff
spice spire
Stealthi a freak fr
grim tangle
all the good rogues are playing sin now.
earnest remnant
Also I legitimately cannot mentally parse the sequencing youd need for a sub 30 ...
wanna know the best part?
i use a cast sequence for that boss
im to lazy
void mesa
is the raccoon an ability or just 
spice spire
earnest remnant
its sectech
void mesa
lmao
earnest remnant
you can tell cuz he is covering his mouth with his paws
void mesa
Call of the Raccoons
earnest remnant
to keep it a secret
spice spire
How do you cast sequence with beacon 
void mesa
You need a mod where the shadowclones are replaced by raccoons coming out of trash cans
earnest remnant
press the cast sequence once
violet jackal
all the good rogues are playing sin now.
are they? because i'm still getting memed on everywhere i go for being a 10 player spec
clever lake
are they? because i'm still getting memed on everywhere i go for being a 10 play...
if assa is 10 player spec, then what is survival?
spice spire
if assa is 10 player spec, then what is survival?
2 person
violet jackal
there are only 3 survival hunter in the world we know this already
void mesa
havent seen any
spice spire
Anyone who plays survival is a GIGA chad
grim tangle
are they? because i'm still getting memed on everywhere i go for being a 10 play...
no I was just joking, nobody good plays sin, you can tell because I'm rank 1 allstar by like 15 points and I'm trash
earnest remnant
my surv hunter is called twitlonger
void mesa
tell him to rename to xlonger
spice spire
Miss the days where Cev terrorized the leaderboards 
violet jackal
same
spice spire
Now we just have randos like yellowr-tichondrius and oxxi-area 52
violet jackal
don't forget #25 whispyr on M sarkareth 
void mesa
If I had a guild running Mythic I'd help you guys parse higher
by filling the lower ranks
but i think raid dead until next tier
spice spire
My hopes for parsing are gone. Still clearing at this point means my only hope is GIGA pad
violet jackal
filthy
spice spire
And I’d rather die than pad
void mesa
i had like 1 kill for the first 3 bosses
then all the guilds I tried out with broke down
void mesa
And I’d rather die than pad
honorable 
earnest remnant
i need to stop trolling on Sark
think ive sent my DM just as he jumps up 3 weeks in a row now
thats not it
violet jackal
CD timing on that fight felt so off, but was correct
spice spire
Happens to the best of us
violet jackal
don't forget to get yourself a little going down juicer for the 6/7 min window
violet jackal
das wild
spice spire
That’s colour
violet jackal
I think we killed around 7:38/7:45ish
earnest remnant
our kill timers are rather short
violet jackal
ah must be one of them hall of famers i see
earnest remnant
think we got wr 50 this tier
violet jackal
I too aspire to be as great as thee one day 
spice spire
0:28
violet jackal
freeiest boss in the raid
earnest remnant
just have 4 augs
raid becomes quite quick then
something crazy tho
14 sark kills in total on mythic
not a single time
has the cloak dropped
spice spire
violet jackal
we saw a cloak first kill 💪 but no dagger 😢
spice spire
rare items are great man 🙂
Ur bound to be missing something
You can’t be handsome a lawyer and good at WoW without missing something (oxi too)
balmy condor
ah must be one of them hall of famers i see
Ain’t even hall of famers, their guild is just famous for speed killing and cheesing fights late in the tier, this time it was Aug breaking the raid
earnest remnant
feel like cheesing is the wrong word
gusty mirage
feel like cheesing is the wrong word
but I like cheese
spice spire
Pushing the boundaries of a boss to see what is possible
light warren
im lactose intolerant
earnest remnant
we arent abusing augs like we did for the 1 assault kill or anything
its legit just 4 augs
and then under heal the bosses
thats not really cheesing them is it?
gusty mirage
whatever you say Stealthi, Famed Slayer of Parses
gusty mirage
is it something that'll continue to make me feel inadequate at rogue?
it was not, in case anyone was invested in my question
balmy condor
thats not really cheesing them is it?
I mean speed killing strats I guess slightly different
But it’s getting there
silk bane
it was not, in case anyone was invested in my question
now im intrigued. tell us more mr oxi
smoky horizon
Do I even play around the 4pc?
Like save up Shivs or do you just ignore it and let it be w.e.
runic basin
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
true imp
gearing up my rogue. just how bad is sin vs sub in keys (10-20 range)
cuz.. i can't describe how much i hate current sublety
gloom > evis. shuriken > black powder. not fun
spice spire
gearing up my rogue. just how bad is sin vs sub in keys (10-20 range)
If everything gets blown up, you feel bad
If not
You feel good
light warren
Yea i invite warriors who do 300k plus in aoe pulls and im at 150k because there is no dmg for me to do lol. im just farming in 17's and it feels sad but still more fun then sub lol
so when i sim crafted 447 vs my 441 gear on ST its this without buffs and 0.1% with buffs
is there a way to sim all possible enchants on the piece to figure out the best stats
void mesa
Just add more piece to the sim options with the different stats combinations
In Gear Compare, just duplicate the gear set and change secondaries
In Top Gear just click the + and change secondaries on the item
light warren
is there a difference between Mastery/Haste and Haste/Mastery?
stats are equal on crafted right
void mesa
Same thing yeah
hushed fable
There is a diff only on pieces with 1 stat ie. Engi stuff. Then it always takes the 1st stat.
cerulean nest
is the podcast from today on YouTube already?
spice spire
No
cerulean nest
lit
chrome holly
hey, so i've come back to rogue for rework after vault and it looks like the auto md wa/macro has stopped working? anyone got a fix other than the good old fashioned way
loud light
hey, so i've come back to rogue for rework after vault and it looks like the aut...
assuming you have an updated WA, the macro might need to look like either "/click AutoTankMisdirect Leftbutton" or "/click AutoTankMisdirect Leftbutton 1" depending on your settings
chrome holly
yeh pulled fresh just in case but the button bit i dont have on my macro so sounds like its that
loud light
one of them simulates a keydown click and the other is a key-up depending on when your abilities fire, I forget which is which
neon burrow
Late to the party, but do you think assn will be more viable in all content going forward?
balmy condor
yes
candid geyser
@balmy condor Father this is unacceptable.
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> Father this is unacceptable.
Son I got 25 things to do
Maybe m+ testing on ptr
But nothing planned
📺
balmy condor
You can stream while doing all the 25 things <:stream:532947270283558912> 📺<:ti...
Idk if I can contractually stream writing wowhead articles
candid geyser
That's fair. Father always working. But I understand. It's to provide your son the best content.
P.S. new vids were awesome
candid geyser
Did you know you waved for 1min 25 seconds in the tier vid 
quiet oar
Hiya
balmy condor
Did you know you waved for 1min 25 seconds in the tier vid <:catPOG:841305669428...
Small wave
quiet oar
Whisp
Im honest with you
The Podcast with your Drunk Persona
Wouldve been hilarious
blazing crystal
Quick question. Do I have to use echoing reprimand? I absolutely hate the ability. This is primarily a question for PvP.
storm belfry
Everybody wants a piece of the drunk whispyr man
Hey lol
storm belfry
full summit
How to stop energy issue? 😄
void mesa
Maintain rupture/garotte uptime, make sure you have poisons and snd up, use tea when you need it and not just for mastery
light warren
tbh i have energy issues even on target dummys
balmy condor
whats your definition of "issues"
light warren
having to auto attack for like 3 seconds without casting
light warren
thats normal?
balmy condor
yes
light warren
constantly?
balmy condor
I mean I think you're over-doing the "constantly" part of that
but fairly regularly yes
light warren
ok
well then mv
nvm
in that situation do i just wait for energy to regen or cast as soon as possible
light warren
yea it happens durring mutilate env spam
balmy condor
same time different fight
I mean it's pretty dense though tbh
wcl saying I have 62 apm
light warren
so do i wait for like 100 energy or do i just cast mutilate when i get 50
balmy condor
in that situation do i just wait for energy to regen or cast as soon as possible
you can pool but kinda not worth atm, so do whatever I guess
pooling poorly is worse than not pooling at all
light warren
yea
does only using 3 poisons also lower energy regen?
im not currently doing that but in m+ i so badly want to remove crippling poison
balmy condor
what
a majority of your energy is from bleed ticks
as long as the target has a poison it'll give energy back
balmy condor
torc like the neck?
light warren
ye
balmy condor
it's a 447 neck
so
about as good as any other 447 neck I guess
if you don't have a 447 neck it'll be better
if you have a 447 neck you might be able to craft one and get better stats
but would just be a sidegrade
full summit
dis good right?
light warren
yea wish i had that
full summit
you'll get it soon
I was gonna make torc but then i got the neck so imma make torc for outlaw
shy pecan
The neck's fine, yeah
granite grail
Tried to do a dungeon as sub to get a feel for it. Did 2 packs
Walked out
swapped to sin
I cannot play sub it feels so bad
light warren
Yea i hate all the pressing of none gcd spells in a row for opener
mighty pine
wcl saying I have 62 apm
how do you check apm on wcl?
balmy condor
tables -> cast
mighty pine
i only see cpm
mighty pine
ahh
balmy condor
is the same thing
mighty pine
hmm
it seems i am breaking 100 apm then on multiple fights
time to re-evaluate my spec choice
balmy condor
outlaw PoV
past bobcat
sullen gyro
Cpm on warcraftlogs includes a lot of things you aren't actually pressing
Like I'm pretty sure seal fate and ss procs count as part of cpm
median flicker
That is incorrect. WCL only accounts for buttons that you press, including trinkets.
No seal of fate anywhere
median flicker
This is for Assassination specifically. Outlaw and Sub do track the additional combo points generated
I literally was typing ab that lol
Which scrolling up, you're talking ab Outlaw so its slightly irreleveant
sullen gyro
I mean you're not getting 100 cpm as sin which is what was mentioned earlier
This specific log I grabbed has 120 cpm apparently
127 actually my bad
Looks like fan the hammer is also throwing fake casts
So outlaw should probably be closer to 70ish cpm
Which sounds about right to me with the high uptime on adr dropping your average gcd under 1 second
deft flicker
So outlaw should probably be closer to 70ish cpm
More like 80 with the amount of off-gcd stuff going on but yeah
sullen gyro
Tbf I wasn't wrong 80 is closer to 70 than 130
balmy condor
It’s true
deft flicker
In a vision
It was whispyred to you in a dream by a bowling ball
balmy condor
Bro after my vodka redbull
Them finger holes on the bowling balls
Ya know
You turn 5’s into 9’s
I turn inanimate objects into maybe’s
We are not the same
deft flicker
Them finger holes on the bowling balls
Consider talenting into this
balmy condor
Consider talenting into this
Notter foaming at the mouth rn
deft flicker
Also idk I have criminally low bowling experience for the amount of fun I had actually doing that
balmy condor
I’ve been bowling 18 damn years and I’m criminally bad for how impressive that sounds
sullen gyro
I bowl once every 4 years play two games and get sub 100 on both
balmy condor
Rng probably
sullen gyro
Yeah I'm just unlucky I could go pro if I just got better rng
deft flicker
I’ve been to a bowling alley like 3 times total
Don’t even remember what I scored. Probably low af
I feel like I’m getting old because I know I could’ve probably spent more time doing that, even if as a hobby, but for some reason I didn’t. I wish I did. Could’ve been a different man
oak sky
when i went this past week i sucked tho
deft flicker
Unlucky
median flicker
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
gaunt moat
Thanks @austere fulcrum for bringing it up to my attention
WAs update broke the shiv indicator color in the sepsis WA
fixed in the new version
https://wago.io/Lgy47ma7G
@keen spruce fyi
flint tusk
Thanks <@367807129299451907> for bringing it up to my attention
WAs update broke...
Legend. I only recently played with this on thursday and it helped so much. The timer thing did confuse me 😅 why it was there sometimes. Figured i was doing something wrong 🙈
gaunt moat
crap, i wrote envenom indicator in the WA description instead of shiv, can't edit that now 😂
gaunt moat
Legend. I only recently played with this on thursday and it helped so much. The ...
By timer you mean when it turns red?
You know what. FUCK IT, I'M ADDING A TIMER
you can't stop me
flint tusk
Yeh the little count down thing. After the first proc was used
gaunt moat
I'm confused, there is no countdown currently
flint tusk
Is that not what the green to red thing does?
gaunt moat
Ah yeah, i was just not sure if you meant that.
But now i've added an actual small timer, let me know what you think
(you'll have to reimport)
flint tusk
Honestly that’ll be amazing! Got 3 places i can look for shiv already but always forget to clip it…
Should be too hard on myself 2nd raid of using sepsis all season 😅 used to be fine with kingsbane it’s on the same keybind as well!
fallen forge
does dungeon slice work for simming m+ as sin rogue?
balmy condor
yep
fallen forge
sweet ty
flint tusk
That looks to be working perfect @gaunt moat
I made some changes to it's location as i'm a 'boomer' and blindside and that even though they're literally different colours! was fucking me up xD
gaunt moat
Yeah, it's not something I'm happy about that its confusing, but I also kinda like that it's the same texture.
gaunt moat
i tried making the sepsis smaller, but then it looked bad
whispyr just used a different texture for his
You know what. i have an idea.
gaunt moat
It's really dumb though, so uh. let me make it first and then get your thoughts
flint tusk
that's all part of designing something though. pretty much impossible to get something 100% first time. so the effort you've done for this is very much appreciated as i can't do this i can just resize and move stuff around xD
clever sapphire
that's all part of designing something though. pretty much impossible to get som...
I even fuck that up sometimes, i try to move something and my whole wa just breaks xD
Once i tried to make it so zacs WA shows up on outlaw and whispyrs on sub and assa. Neither of them showed up and when they did i had pistol shot showing when specced assa
Im not touching wa's
flint tusk
oh don't! i tried to be smart with a poison reminder WA all i wanted to do was change it so it did wound/crippling in a certain spec. (it was setup for this already) but it was doing instant for both left click and shift left click. somehow i managed to change something on completely the wrong spec and i had to just redownload it as i had no clue what i messed up
some of the WA's are so expertly crafted and the amount of intricate detail is honestly insane.
gaunt moat
ok, sorry for bad picture, but what do you think about something like that for when you get a blinside proc
or is it bad cause it's redudnant
clever sapphire
oh don't! i tried to be smart with a poison reminder WA all i wanted to do was c...
Exactly, im not touching shit, besides moving around. Not even resizing unless its in the custom options xD
gaunt moat
@flint tusk thoughts? 
flint tusk
I personally think and offset so you've not got to worry about blindside would be better.
Unless you was doing a value add where you had a timer for the blindside along with the arrow? might be getting a bit extra though
fallen forge
do we spam crimson tempest in aoe or just to keep the dot up and then spam envenoms for poison bomb?
clever sapphire
Both viable, if poison bomb hits a lot of mobs during your tset proc its better
smoky horizon
I usually keep Envenom buff rolling and the rest is pumped into Crimson
Another question:
Do I play around the 4pc on Live? Like save some Shivs or do you just keep trucking and let it be whatever like the 2pc?
balmy condor
You can slam a shiv after your Deathmark as it comes up if you don’t need to hold for anything like sepsis
Commonly in opener
You would 2x during Deathmark
And then the 3rd shiv comes up during your tier
Sepsis is still a minute out
So you can slam a shiv there during the tier bonus
But like given the option of slamming shiv during Deathmark, or holding it till after
You always slam during Deathmark
smoky horizon
Ow eeh Im not playing Sepsis atm, just SBS. The difference between those is huge or?
balmy condor
Nah
Like 1%
But even better then
Nothing to hold for
Slam the shiv during tier set chief
Good to go
flint tusk
Sadge no dagger again
smoky horizon
You are an absolute legend Whispyr. From my contact here with you and the occasional contact in Infexious his discord you seem so involved so I just want to let you know it’s all appreciated by people like me who would like to spend more time to get knowledgeable but can’t
spice spire
Paid actor (whispyr is amazing I agree)
earnest remnant
only thing that would make whispyr more based, was if he played sub and not assa
pure moth
aint infexious still a bad source of information? lol
earnest remnant
tbh he never really was, atleast not from SL onwards
its just yt content gets outdated so fast
pure moth
ah
earnest remnant
its why not alot of people wanna do it
pure moth
yeah i remember the early days when it was just beyond bad
gaunt moat
okay, this is weird, i must be missing something
But why can poison knife apply lethal poisons twice in one hit?
It doesn't happen all the time, but sometimes it adds a stack, and then after a short delay, another stack
Same deal with other poisons, like instant poison
slim hamlet
Poisoned knife in KB window confirmed 
gaunt moat
It looks like it triggers when you "throw" and then again when it "hits"
gusty mirage
Always been a thing with PK iirc
That’s how pvpers were one shotting people season 1 bfa with the poisoned knife Azerite trait
granite grail
@balmy condor my fridge wont let me open youtube. You win this time
gaunt moat
Poisoned knife in KB window confirmed <:poggers:652288776021999626>
Unofrutently you still apply more poisons with a mutilate
spice surge
It looks like it triggers when you "throw" and then again when it "hits"
Doesnt it reset deadly (dot) or something like that? I know it resets the wound stacks down to 1 regardless of what you had before
spice surge
Oh they did indeed fix the wound thing