#assassination

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balmy condor
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well you watched a bellular video

thorn fjord
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No idea who Bellular is lol

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guildy posted this in our disc

slim hamlet
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Bellular vids were sick once

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now they're just omega hyper clickbait ONLY

balmy condor
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he's a very popular wow youtuber that eventually branched out into more general gaming news

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and now all his wow content is just clickbait ripped from reddit

gaunt moat
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@slim hamlet also we already know the changes

slim hamlet
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50% clickbait 50% direct hate

thorn fjord
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Damn Realz be creepin in the rogue disc at 230 in the morning?

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Gotta respect the commitment kekdog

slim hamlet
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I mean

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He is the rogue dev

burnt latch
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Timezones PepeLaffington

slim hamlet
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Lurking in the shadows

gaunt moat
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That's my time lol

thorn fjord
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dont destroy my fantasy

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I'd like to imagine it was 230 in the morning

gaunt moat
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he should be 8 hours behind

slim hamlet
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Thats when I wake up

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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yooo

gaunt moat
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If you fly in an airplane you time travel starege

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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if u sleep u time travel

thorn fjord
royal lantern
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sometimes i think

slim hamlet
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i dont

royal lantern
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there are people here that read all the shit we write

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they just dont comment

gaunt moat
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If you raid when you're really tired, you can also stop time starege

thorn fjord
royal lantern
slim hamlet
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I mean thats fun to do in the bad discord channels

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Would only be fun when patch notes are hitting in here

thorn fjord
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Good thing we never get patch notes

slim hamlet
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yeah

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first week of dragonflight

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holy

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bring me back exsangyay

gaunt moat
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I still have PTSD

thorn fjord
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I think it was fun for us regulars tbh lol

slim hamlet
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When puzzle box, what poison, when exsang

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I was sin noob and was still fun

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But I also have multiple brain cells

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maybe even in the double digits

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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no

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mine now

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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I rolled need and won fair and square

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U would only use it for tmog anyways

balmy condor
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arguably more annoying

thorn fjord
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its the calm before the storm

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Wait till the patchnotes finally get released

quiet oar
balmy condor
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bro if PTR drops and like 2 seconds later some clueless sprout wobbles in and asks what best stats are now

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I'm gonna lose it

slim hamlet
thorn fjord
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Thats why you have us here... To help keep you sane bro

balmy condor
quiet oar
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Sin will be caster

balmy condor
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it's not working

slim hamlet
thorn fjord
balmy condor
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idk

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I hope my pin will be enough

quiet oar
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For that

balmy condor
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but I'm also fully aware that no pin and no faq and no guide

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that I will ever write

quiet oar
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People need to read them

balmy condor
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will ever be enough

slim hamlet
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Didn't even see you added new pin and I've been here for a while

thorn fjord
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I mean we still have people coming in here asking about fragment

slim hamlet
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so definitely won't xd

balmy condor
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help

slim hamlet
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Yea

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But I had no reason to look up there

harsh anchor
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How do I tell there's a new pin tho

balmy condor
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I hate you all

slim hamlet
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xd

quiet oar
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Wtf

thorn fjord
slim hamlet
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The absolute worst thing is people unironically asking deadly vs instant poison

sweet dawn
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We broke him

slim hamlet
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like read the tooltip??

harsh anchor
quiet oar
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Whispyr

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You good?

balmy condor
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and it didn't help

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not one fucking bit

slim hamlet
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I mean

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You shouldnt need to

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10 year old me not knowing half english would be able to know from the game it self

balmy condor
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shouldn't being the key word

royal lantern
thorn fjord
slim hamlet
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Is it worth to go max ilvl puzzle box > season 2 trinkets?

quiet oar
royal lantern
thorn fjord
slim hamlet
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Is kingsbane good in dungeons?

balmy condor
thorn fjord
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Oh god we gotta stop before he kills us

slim hamlet
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Do I exsang before or after vandetta?

quiet oar
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You make a three sixty

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Pray to whisp

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And than press exang

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500k dpa

slim hamlet
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Do I have to emote the prayers or is it irl thing?

royal lantern
quiet oar
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Both

slim hamlet
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damn

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a lot of work

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Is it only in opener or always?

balmy condor
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how bout that

slim hamlet
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with and without PI?

quiet oar
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Everytime you press exsang

slim hamlet
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holy

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Would it be optimal to just stay on my knees or should I switch on and off the gaming chair?

balmy condor
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if I link a video in the pins so people don't have to read, would that help

slim hamlet
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no

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lol

quiet oar
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You can stay on kneea

slim hamlet
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The problem is not people not liking to read, it's simply just not knowing pins are a thing

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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I didn't when I first joined

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or something close to that

balmy condor
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so you're saying every major patch we just gotta rename the channel

slim hamlet
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staregeYep

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But also

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People still didn't

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xd

quiet oar
balmy condor
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I hate my life

earnest remnant
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@balmy condor saw kb best log assault kb bis now?

slim hamlet
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I remember we all fucking flaming the guys not reading the pins even when the channel was named it

quiet oar
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If you arent exactly on this ststs

slim hamlet
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I thought 34% was max crit

quiet oar
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It wont work

harsh anchor
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Assassination can't be the only spec/channel that deals with this joesmile

slim hamlet
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I think there's just more information about other specs

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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Much more noob questions here it seems

earnest remnant
balmy condor
earnest remnant
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tbf can just send them my way

balmy condor
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I leave those shits on read

slim hamlet
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make chatgpt make an answer

woeful meteor
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where racoon madge

earnest remnant
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gives me some content

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Stealthi here

quiet oar
thorn fjord
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We love raccoon

royal lantern
balmy condor
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I'm not going to reward idiot behavior with an answer in my dms

royal lantern
balmy condor
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I ain't google

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I ain't logs

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I ain't raidbots

quiet oar
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But whisp

thorn fjord
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That’s wild that random people would just dm you

slim hamlet
quiet oar
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Can you Tell me when the Best pvp Streamer streams

balmy condor
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there's a billion things you can figure out by simply opening your eyes, reading whats on the screen, reading a guide

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that's why they're there

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guides exist

earnest remnant
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its a thing we quite enjoy is watching people try and copy what we do and not really understanding how it works

balmy condor
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for this reason

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so you don't have to ask

earnest remnant
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like in SL we had people try our Anduin int 2 skip strat as their prog kill

royal lantern
balmy condor
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wowhead posts legit weekly log analysis of the specs

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from heroic

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mythic

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boss damage

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overall damage

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if you can't even find the info yourself, just look at that

slim hamlet
balmy condor
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I don't get it

thorn fjord
royal lantern
slim hamlet
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HOLY

royal lantern
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like

balmy condor
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community literally has an IV feed directly into their skulls with knowledge and can't take advantage of it

royal lantern
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bfa had the highest amount of geniuely good raids in a Expansion lol

slim hamlet
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I was noob in BFA so idk, but sanctum being good is sick take

quiet oar
balmy condor
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sanctum was good though

thorn fjord
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It was really good

slim hamlet
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aintnoway

earnest remnant
royal lantern
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Early KT and Sylvanas where bad

earnest remnant
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so u sure about that

royal lantern
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the rest was allright or good

slim hamlet
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Only boss I really liked was painsmith and guardian

thorn fjord
royal lantern
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painsmith was goated

slim hamlet
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If I played mythic all the way I think I would like scripe guy

balmy condor
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the only way this discord isn't helpful is if you ask legit the dumbest questions imaginable

earnest remnant
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found it

balmy condor
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and even then you'll be told where to find the info

slim hamlet
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based blue namer

quiet oar
earnest remnant
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no clue

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dont think so

spice surge
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Completely unhelpful community

quiet oar
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Oof

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How dare we

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Not doing it instantly

slim hamlet
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true

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where is oxi

balmy condor
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oh he also literally joined yesterday

quiet oar
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Like why the fuck Do we get paid

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And not help

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Oh wait

slim hamlet
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True

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Get paid in minus brain cells

woeful meteor
slim hamlet
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m+ logs are only for cooldown usage, dmg taken and other weird shit like that

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change my mind

balmy condor
royal lantern
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i mean, yeha, but thats logs in general tbh

slim hamlet
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Well

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Yea i suppose

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half the logs from season 1 I saw were legit just obvious things like using exsang on dm

thorn fjord
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We all know its @spice spire fault

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Not helpful enough imo

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and Oxi is scary

spice surge
spice spire
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?

thorn fjord
shy pecan
balmy condor
spice spire
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Real

royal lantern
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first you always say "trust the sim bot, trust the sims bro"

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and when we use the bot that tells us how to play its wrong

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smh my head, mixed signals

shy pecan
balmy condor
keen spruce
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my favorite is when people hyper focus on their opener and ask why their damage is low. then link a log with like 45 seconds of downtime, 600 energy wasted on tea, and 80% rupture uptime

shy pecan
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Yup, it’s just opener. Not the 5% uptime on your dots over four minutes, downtime, energy capping, etc.

hushed fable
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Or Arcane Mage, especially from Legion 👀

balmy condor
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why my damage not look like this?

gusty mirage
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because then I know my friend shmeeps is happy

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:3

shy pecan
balmy condor
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most unhelpful discord fr fr

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we take a certain level of pride in our ability to never be not unhelpful

quiet oar
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Huh

shy pecan
quiet oar
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Was this like Triple negative

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Never not unhelpful

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Its Too late

void mesa
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Honestly, after talking with a few people and being with a few discord for wow, this is like one of the rare gem of useful and chill chat

balmy condor
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I'm sworn to a strict policy of unhelpfulness

quiet oar
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Typical shadow

keen spruce
quiet oar
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Fuuu the only mod that is helpful

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Frfr

keen spruce
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fuu the only mod that doesn't call me a hooker

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or imply it

quiet oar
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I mean

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You cant change what you are

keen spruce
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my raid team calls me "off the meds" now

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whenever i die

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cuz i showed them whispyr's list

balmy condor
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sounds like you did it to yourself

keen spruce
dawn haven
loud hearth
shy pecan
balmy condor
dawn haven
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But guys my 15 log might become a 16 if I switch my mastery gear to crit gear

balmy condor
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just earlier we had a question which sim to take

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and they linked 2 sims

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within margin

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one with haste gems and the other with mastery

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it just

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idk

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number doesn't change -> doesn't matter?

dawn haven
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How to ruin Whispyr's day with 2 sims.

balmy condor
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imagine eating compute time on raidbots servers for gems just for it to tell you that it's irrelevant

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and then still not believe it

quiet oar
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But the cap

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And the breakpoints

dawn haven
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Because it's a robot, surely a human has a better answer.

balmy condor
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real

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just like chess engines

quiet oar
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Isnt whisp a bot

balmy condor
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wtf do they know

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dumb chess robot probably cheating

silk bane
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but wha tif hekili tells them that they need to change 1 gem because theyre going over stat dr by 3 crit, and if they dont they parse a -72?

balmy condor
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it doesn't take into consideration real world factors, like stress, or humidity

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how can we trust it

dawn haven
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Bro, if my fingers are cold then I can't play as well so my sim should be lower to account for this.

slim pebble
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Haste or mast for chrom orb?

balmy condor
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whichever

quiet oar
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Sim it

dawn haven
balmy condor
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or take the all stat one

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ask your raid leader first to see if all the buffs are even covered

quiet oar
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Literally fake sim

slim pebble
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I've been sub for awhile so I have 1% haste so I was thinking haste?

balmy condor
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sounds good

slim pebble
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But I'll sim to be sure

dawn haven
quiet oar
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True

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Sim types /cast gloomblade in Chat

balmy condor
quiet oar
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Real chad

loud hearth
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Raidbots clicks all buttons, just very fast ALOO

dawn haven
loud hearth
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If you get good enough at clicking, you too can be as good as raidbots

dawn haven
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Finally, someone is on my side.

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For the first time in 9yrs.

quiet oar
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Raidbots doesnt consider my dog Peeing on the floor

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Like how can a bot not predict that

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Fr

balmy condor
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I actually use a second mouse, taped to the first mouse, so that I can click with my ring and pinky finger as well

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that means I click twice as fast

spice surge
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What you peeling brother

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A banana?

balmy condor
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puts me ahead of the competition

quiet oar
spice surge
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Fixed ruined it shitty autocorrect

dawn haven
balmy condor
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every raid fight is just a race from one gcd to the next, and brother I'm losing

quiet oar
dawn haven
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Apparently some classic players used my stream to say that "Classic gameplay" (clicking) can compete with "Retail gameplay" (keybinding) to show that retail is easier than classic.

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But I have seen nothing so far and it makes me sad

balmy condor
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yeah I'm old too

dawn haven
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Bro I'm 19

balmy condor
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are you a double amputee

quiet oar
balmy condor
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are you clicking an on-screen keyboard

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I don't get it

dawn haven
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I am speed

quiet oar
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Bro the game is older than you

dawn haven
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almost

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I'm a few months older than WoW

quiet oar
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Yeah true

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Depends on month

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Bro played right after being born

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Fr

dawn haven
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Imagine raid leading at 1yrs old

quiet oar
dawn haven
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When I say my life is WoW, you better not test me.

quiet oar
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How Do you get to wow

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Except family

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Or friends

dawn haven
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I played so much of WoW casually until Shadowlands

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That's when I started raiding mythic, when I finally began to despise WoW.

quiet oar
slow needle
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Decided to run a droptimizer for Sin just to see what I may want to grab from reclears. All my gear is tailored towards Sub/Outlaw so 0 haste and not as much mastery as may be liked. No shot Mythic class trinket is worse than a normal beacon.

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Is this just one of those get more haste and it'll change things?

woeful meteor
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ye

slow needle
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Yeah I'm currently in the promised land of 0 haste.

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That makes sense.

dawn haven
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For me atm class trinket sims the same as my M OCE that was 1400 dps higher than mythic bacon

woeful meteor
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or whatever that is it's hyper cursed considering essence is bis and a 1,6% loss for you

royal lantern
woeful meteor
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obviously depends what you selected for essence

slow needle
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What ever was default tbh.

dawn haven
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Default is crit I believe

woeful meteor
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default is all stats no team buffs which is kinda bad

dawn haven
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oh nvm that's worse

woeful meteor
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could also be crit but def no team buffs

dawn haven
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Yeh team buffs are auto set to 0

slow needle
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Lets just throw it in there as Haste. Hang on I'll run it again. Also wearing some rings I had in my bag with some haste on them xD

woeful meteor
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all buffs > crit for me last time I simmed Shruge

dawn haven
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Wait

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I know how to ruin the Sin chat

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4577 Critical Strike
2643 Haste
686 Versatility
4595 Mastery (4025 without OCE)

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The exact stats of the BiS sin sim for ST using dtb build currently.

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(Also as a reminder please do not actually use this to guage anything, I only used this to itemise because I was literally full BiS gear. Sim your gear.)

slow needle
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Okay, yeah. Getting 10% haste has made a difference xD

dawn haven
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pog

slow needle
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And ally buffs.

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Doubt I'll get my hands on one tbh.

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Unless its from Vault a bunch of people higher on the list for their main spec than me wanting to dabble during reclear.

dawn haven
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I had to get mine from vault, my whole raid team was higher on the list than the 2 rogues.

slow needle
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So is OCE/Bomb preferable to Nelth in a BiS setup?

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I thought it was Nelth due to ilvl.

dawn haven
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It is whenever it starts simming higher ig

woeful meteor
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it's pretty euqual

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nelth can high/low roll oce is always the same

dawn haven
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It's identical for me compared to OCE

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But yeh it has the factor of either being high or low which can technically make it better than OCE if you're lucky.

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Or worse

slow needle
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Fair enough. I wanna play Sin a bit so just trying to work out the gearing path of things I can probably grab as drops and stuff I want from vault.

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Even if things may not be immediate obvious upgrades.

gusty mirage
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always wonderful

woeful meteor
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Not true considering how hard I lowrolled my performance for destiny raid release this week

gusty mirage
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doesn't make you less wonderful

woeful meteor
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you on the other hand are always wonderful hug

storm forum
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can i come back to rogue?

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the priest discord is scary

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i changed my pfp

void mesa
storm forum
gusty mirage
spice spire
storm forum
void mesa
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That seems like dog nepotism Susgers

void mesa
blazing jewel
harsh anchor
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aug or key is dead

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true and real

light warren
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what raid utility do we have?

balmy condor
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Atrophic

light warren
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so, im assuming as assassin i would never get a slot over a monk or shaman?

earnest remnant
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ideal comp would pretty much always have 1 rogue in

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for the 3% dr

balmy condor
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3% dr was pretty big on sark

earnest remnant
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as much as 3% isnt "needed" people will still build raid comps around it

light warren
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hmm. I currently am the only monk in my raid team but dont enjoy ww that much and looking to switch is why i am asking

balmy condor
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What level do you play at

light warren
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heroic

balmy condor
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Switch

light warren
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but like

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we clear it easy

balmy condor
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The ideal comp stuff we’re talking about aren’t even really necessary for a CE guild

light warren
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we are also building for mythic next raid

balmy condor
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Then recruit a monk

light warren
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nah we dont fail heroic

balmy condor
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Unless you’re going for like top 150-200 region just play whatever you think is the most fun and get enjoyment out of. Trying to be the hero of the group to fill a raid buff and being miserable playing it isn’t going to do you any good when you’re wiping to the same mechanic for 80 pulls in a row

willow barn
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Guys any specific Tipps for a new Assa player

blazing jewel
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read faq and learn how sepsis works Okay

balmy condor
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Maintain everything and then press envenom

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And then press all your cooldowns

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And then press envenom again

gaunt moat
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@balmy condor Is PTR live yet

balmy condor
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Brother it’s 10:45 on a Monday

gaunt moat
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I was making a joke at that person that asked that FeelsWeird

balmy condor
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Then ping them

gaunt moat
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But the joke is to ping you

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haha

blazing jewel
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@balmy condor what do I bind shiv to

vestal wren
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bind it to F

keen spruce
gaunt moat
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you macro it to envenom

balmy condor
blazing jewel
gaunt moat
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By brain is fried from playing zelda for like 10 hours.

deft flicker
rotund oak
blazing jewel
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25

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as of very recent

subtle tundra
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Congrats!! Boy or girl?

blazing jewel
subtle tundra
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The child, I mean

rotund oak
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your voice sounds alot older coz i was certain u were much younger yup

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was in conflict,had to ask

subtle tundra
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You're pregnant 😊

blazing jewel
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hot

blazing jewel
rotund oak
balmy condor
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the car exhaust fumes age him three times as fast as normal

blazing jewel
rotund oak
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Are u ok?Hope its not somekind of condition

blazing jewel
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lol

balmy condor
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oh it's a condition alright

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I'll tell you that

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he parks in the handicap spot at work

rotund oak
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wtf

blazing jewel
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bruh

rotund oak
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that means u know each other

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which implies he's german too

balmy condor
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intimately familiar

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give me one more week alone with the guy and I'll get a shower selfie

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I'm working him up to it

blazing jewel
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hot

runic hinge
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Assa channel is just so passionate

void mesa
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wheres oxi when people are getting all flirty and shit

balmy condor
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he's sleeping

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(In my bed)

earnest remnant
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he is with me

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he is my wife

balmy condor
bronze pike
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can i ping you whispyr?

balmy condor
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no

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everyone else can

rotund oak
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if u wanna get banned

balmy condor
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but specifically you can't

rotund oak
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from all internet services

bronze pike
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mod abuse

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screenshotted

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sending to proper authorities

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:(

earnest remnant
balmy condor
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scammed

rotund oak
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stealthi living up to expectations,marking his territory

balmy condor
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@blazing jewel surely tomorrow right

earnest remnant
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aint no way

balmy condor
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and megadungy daggy

earnest remnant
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you getting a cloak before me

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i will not stand for it

balmy condor
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silence augvoker slampiece

earnest remnant
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parse check?

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yeah i thought so

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l nerd

blazing jewel
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PI BUDDY

earnest remnant
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im about to end this mans career

blazing jewel
#

I was about to type

balmy condor
blazing jewel
#

(hes looking up my logs right now)

balmy condor
#

your turn

earnest remnant
#

hmmge

#

u had pi?

blazing jewel
#

what boss is that lol

earnest remnant
#

kazzara

blazing jewel
#

if I did I did not know it lmfao

earnest remnant
#

got pi

#

and got gapped

blazing jewel
#

wait hold

earnest remnant
#

unfortunate

blazing jewel
#

I know what happened

#

look when I got piu

#

pi

earnest remnant
#

2:15

#

anymore excuses?

balmy condor
#

execute pi btw

blazing jewel
#

wasnt using it as an excuse its just funny

#

that its a singular PI

#

I think the boomie that was getting it died

#

@indigo ether

earnest remnant
#

and this

#

and still got gapped

#

smh

blazing jewel
#

just wait

hallow sonnet
#

Be nice :)

blazing jewel
#

we will get the executive opinion coming in here

#

need pleb to wake up

balmy condor
#

yeh its definitely not that color kills every boss a full minute faster right

rotund oak
earnest remnant
#

only 30 sec faster here

balmy condor
#

well kazzara yeah

blazing jewel
balmy condor
#

you're running out of time to actually be faster

#

gotta start counting kill times in negative numbers

blazing jewel
#

some bosses when you do that its impossible to parse though

#

like their sark

earnest remnant
#

nelth as well

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you can only go for boss dmg parse on Sark

#

nothing else

#

i would need some stupid af rng

balmy condor
#

that's how I got my rank 1

earnest remnant
#

to get close to rank 1 overall with 1 set of adds

blazing jewel
#

I think now that my rogue is in alt raid

#

PIs will be coming my way

balmy condor
#

I'm unsure how I'm supposed to do even close to 157k on kazzara tomorrow

earnest remnant
#

new rank 1 procs btw

#

wtf

blazing jewel
#

was cts in dm/tier set

earnest remnant
#

thats some vile ass up time

indigo ether
vestal wren
#

12 sophic procs dracthyr_love + 13 suffering procs

blazing jewel
#

good morning pleb

#

can you defend me from angry man

earnest remnant
balmy condor
#

stealthi I think I need coaching, how do I make my sophic and cts proc during my cooldowns

earnest remnant
#

dont ask me man

#

i dont know how either

indigo ether
#

he paid for pi that pull but the healer fucked up their macro btw

balmy condor
#

I'm fucked then

vestal wren
#

you need to put skill points in luck, its easy

blazing jewel
balmy condor
indigo ether
#

oh it mustve been a random pi

ebon notch
#

gotta be

balmy condor
#

it gets better

#

I got my vers yoinked

earnest remnant
#

whispyr xDDDD

balmy condor
#

right when I pressed my deathmark

ebon notch
#

wtf is usurped from beyond

earnest remnant
#

sark cloak

balmy condor
#

that's the cloak debuff

#

when someone yoinks stats from you

ebon notch
#

oh lmao

earnest remnant
#

not that good rng on that

balmy condor
#

terrible

#

I'm sick of 1 rppm bullshit

earnest remnant
#

we go to the moon this coming reset trust

vestal wren
earnest remnant
#

40% sophic uptime trust

#

all of it in dm windows

#

100%

rotund oak
#

aint happening

vestal wren
#

*shadow dance window

balmy condor
#

It's insane how I'd rather sophic proc twice as often for half the agi

earnest remnant
#

im in speed mode no sub playtime for me atm

balmy condor
#

because this shit is ridiculous

ebon notch
#

i shouldve brought this up with my chat with realz

#

ill remember it for next time

rotund oak
balmy condor
rotund oak
#

u ape 😄

balmy condor
rotund oak
#

hi

balmy condor
#

I LOVE SOPHIC

vestal wren
#

at least we don't play cowl anymore

balmy condor
#

whats the issue with cowl

earnest remnant
#

spicy one on pull on my rashok whispyr

blazing jewel
earnest remnant
#

rest was of em was just taking the piss

balmy condor
earnest remnant
#

TRUE

earnest remnant
#

bring back bfa / sl wep enchants

balmy condor
#

my magmorax was great

#

after 4 minutes

slate crown
#

Are any of the other weapon enchants more consistent to the point that they would be feel-craft preferred over sophic droughts?

earnest remnant
#

our magmorax is so fast i need to bribe our pala for cdr

balmy condor
#

no

#

all the weapon enchants are the same proc rate, except the effect is simply worse

#

you can run 1 sophic 1 wafting

#

which then technically splits the procs

vestal wren
balmy condor
#

I tried that this week

#

it fucking sucks

#

you just get two things that don't proc

balmy condor
ebon notch
balmy condor
#

just stand in melee with the rest of the melee

#

idk

#

cowl was never an issue

ebon notch
#

insane 15s damage window

balmy condor
#

where I'm holding shiv for sepsis

#

and not doing anything

ebon notch
runic hinge
ebon notch
#

get some tarot cards, we gotta check when im proccing in the fight

balmy condor
#

wait it's crazy

#

2 shivs

#

during my procs

#

well, the sophic didn't cover the other one

ebon notch
#

bro wdym you arent getting procs when you want

#

2 whole shivs?

balmy condor
#

yeah I had 2 waftings on shiv and 1.2 sophics

#

actually giga parse strategy

scarlet orbit
#

how can i get this timeline stuff for buffs in with different buffs in wcl?

ebon notch
#

find the buff

#

and click the + icon

vestal wren
#

you just pin the buffs

ebon notch
#

pins it to the top

scarlet orbit
#

ah thanks alot

ebon notch
#

no u

balmy condor
#

lets see if I can find a single instance in my reclear last week where I had sophic wafting and trinket line up

#

aight forget it

#

I'm already over it

earnest remnant
#

gotta get that OCE whisp to cut down that rng stuff

ebon notch
#

good thing its not tilting you

#

:^)

balmy condor
oak sky
balmy condor
#

like actual upgrade need it

oak sky
#

oops this isnt off topic

earnest remnant
#

you will have it in your box tmrw

ebon notch
oak sky
#

yea

ebon notch
#

ur licking fucking toilet seats or what

earnest remnant
#

or today

#

is it tuesday?

earnest remnant
#

idfk

balmy condor
#

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

ebon notch
#

or will i catch smth

balmy condor
#

who decided these fucking procs were a good idea

oak sky
balmy condor
#

I just wanna talk to the guy

oak sky
#

no egirl to ghost me through this covid

#

what?

ebon notch
#

HAHAHAH

#

join RH voice rn andrew

oak sky
#

nono talking to irl friend

#

anytime tomorrow tho

quiet oar
#

Did someone play with heirloom dagger and sl enchant already?

balmy condor
ebon notch
#

u have covid dont talk to them irl

#

wtf

balmy condor
earnest remnant
quiet oar
#

Gloomblade wanted to try this

balmy condor
#

dogshit game

oak sky
#

ive been in my room all day

#

😵

balmy condor
#

nelth on pull, wafting for the first half, nelth on third, and then my fourth deathmark was dry

#

I have 3 procs

#

not a single one during my last deathmark

ebon notch
#

proud of u

balmy condor
#

how does that happen

ebon notch
#

it sims well cause of averages

#

but doing a 3 min pull and getting 1 proc

#

makes you wanna shoot yourself

balmy condor
#

call to chaos is looking fine in my logs tbh

#

it's the least offensive one

ebon notch
#

fr

#

im jealous

balmy condor
#

its my weapon enchants that are off in fucking tibet

#

what am I supposed to do with this

silk bane
#

I feel like they want this idea of 'powerful proc' to be a thing, and then you feel good (

#

when u get it??

#

idk

#

cuz u dont even notice it since its passive

#

but then people who track these thigns just get fraustrated

oak sky
#

the minigame of buying the enchantment and putting it on your weapon is good enough i think

silk bane
#

like im not sure why something that doesnt effect gameplay should be procs like this

earnest remnant
#

its mostly just annoying for people trying to minmax

balmy condor
#

yeah I mean they want the proc to be good and big and feel good when you get it

but then they never add a proc that feels good

earnest remnant
#

when you have such massive swings in dps

balmy condor
#

I don't think heroic andy feels anything when sophic procs

earnest remnant
#

just in pure 1 rppm bullshit

oak sky
#

literally just high uptime low impact please

balmy condor
#

heroic andy looks at details and goes "wow my dps was higher that pull, I must've played well"

silk bane
#

thats the thing though, if the proc itself doesnt change your gameplay, then it just becomes a bother when you dont get it

balmy condor
#

and then it was an augvoker and a sophic proc on pull

#

like it isn't even a good feeling for the people who don't track it

#

it's just a complete failure

silk bane
#

like the upside of oh nice i got a call proc during dance is so miuch worse than the WTF BOSS IS IMMUNE AND NOW IM PROCCING IS THE HOME DEPOT NOOSE STILL SALE STILL GOING?

balmy condor
#

when the people that do track it are losing their minds because it's trash, and the people that don't track it can't notice it

#

why does it exist

gaunt moat
#

So remember how I said i have no internet.
Turns out someone litteraly cut the wire for me and two other apartments. what a piece of shit.

#

wth.

balmy condor
#

just so that people can have a 10% swing in dps from one pull to the next?

#

for fun?

quiet oar
#

Cts proccing everytime you go down in sarka

silk bane
quiet oar
#

Love it

ebon notch
#

rnging rank 1 sure is a dopamine thrill

quiet oar
#

The void squid while collecting haste buffs

balmy condor
ebon notch
#

parse monkeys

#

who else

balmy condor
#

I'm not logging in to try for rank 1 and praying for sophic

#

I'm logging in because it's reclear

#

and I would've logged in anyway

#

who are all these people that keep playing because sophic proc rate is low

#

and it's forcing them to log in more

#

tell me daps

#

give me a name

ebon notch
#

me

#

if i dont get rank 1 im literally worthless as a human being

balmy condor
silk bane
#

im pretty sure its making the 'parse monkeys' wnana play less if their parse is somewhat heavily influenced by 3 bs 1 rppm procs.

balmy condor
#

even if such people exist

ebon notch
balmy condor
#

I don't think blizzard is designing weapon enchants to get a couple hours more play time out of the 3 dozen of those guys in the world

ebon notch
#

you just have to beat the averages

#

by having more logs

ebon notch
#

hours played is a very valuable metric to the suits

balmy condor
#

daps are you reading what I am saying

ebon notch
#

i hope so im not sure

#

im a bit sleepy

balmy condor
#

it doesn't feel like you are

#

no metric is getting influenced because sophic is 1 rppm instead of 2 or 3

ebon notch
#

oh ye probs not

#

small scale stuff like that not rly

#

but it all adds up right

balmy condor
#

no

ebon notch
#

either way its shitty and not very fun to have to deal with

balmy condor
#

0 + 0 is 0

silk bane
#

like the people who really wnana parse, they get to parse once a week anyways. and they woulda logged on anyways to do the reclear cuz its raid time

#

and now they have to deal with a bunch of procs that can heavily influence their dps

#

and now we're back at home depot rope sales

blazing jewel
#

casual

silk bane
#

Scana everyday I learn from you. thank you for your wisdom ALOO

quiet oar
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

he's an eepy boy

ebon notch
#

wtf

royal lantern
#

yeha, sorry daps, but thinking "sophi procrate exists to pad gametime" is some "they track the menstrual cycle of women trough the xbox kinect to sell adds" shit

ebon notch
#

i mean rng where its not needed exists purely to extend gameplay hours

#

gonna be hard to convince me otherwise

royal lantern
#

not everything exists as some malicous conspiracy to pad gametime by higher ups

#

are there things? yeha sure

ebon notch
#

you'd be surprised fam

#

they are very good at making money

balmy condor
#

idk

#

that's a pretty miserable outlook to have on game companies

royal lantern
#

reminder that most dev's work at gaming companies cus they really REALLY fucking love gaming

#

like, otherwhise you would not work in that branch

ebon notch
#

the suits that is

royal lantern
#

ofc there are ideas that just exists to keep you playing, but if you think all dev's are out for your money like oxi is for coffe, idk man

ebon notch
#

gaming has become a horror show over the last few years

misty holly
#

random procs have always been around.

royal lantern
#

2023 is 1 of the best years for gaming in the last 2 decades mate lol

misty holly
#

Crusader was a monster swing

royal lantern
#

like, only 2017 comes close

misty holly
#

parsing culture, however, has been around for less than 10 years

balmy condor
#

idk bout that

#

parse culture and speed kills and shit was definitely a thing in wrath

#

they just weren't as loud because they were more "elitist" or whatever word

#

logs have gotten better

#

and bigger

#

and easier to use

#

but the underlying culture has always been there

inner pier
#

@rigid mango Hey, I was thinking of going back to playing assa rogue and was wondering if vulpera is bis now?

misty holly
#

Whispyr was playing Vulpera for a bit, so I think they must be.

balmy condor
royal lantern
#

i had the #2 zskarn assa log for a couple days as vulpera

#

so yeha

#

best

#

(kill racials allready jesus christ)

austere fulcrum
#

hours away from 10.2 PTR

balmy condor
#

yeah hours

#

somewhere between 1 hour and 1000 hours

austere fulcrum
#

isnt it comin with next reset ?

#

dont tell me no now pls

balmy condor
#

or the reset after that

#

or maybe even the reset after that one

#

could be the one after that as well

#

or after that

#

we have no idea

austere fulcrum
blazing jewel
#

@earnest remnant hey umm mr rogue man I saw you were playing !kingsbane on assault of the zaqali. can you pretty please update your BIS sheet for rogue gearing I want to do big dps like that on the big assault man

bronze pike
#

late to the party

#

but i think twlight dev should be a enchant, nerfed for balance but same model for visual stimli

royal lantern
blazing jewel
#

stealth man didnt run mirror trinket

#

it must be bad

royal lantern
#

touché

keen spruce
#

just use fragment and don't press mutilate Smartgers

blazing jewel
#

galaxy brain

quiet oar
#

Just proc blindside

steel ridge
grand trail
#

I was big believer that we get ptr with this reset but whispyr corrupted my mind and I don't think so more 🙈:(

#

There was no hints or information about 10.2 at all. I think we get some of that before ptr

rare jackal
burnt latch
hearty reef
#

You guys using the same ST build for echo?

blazing jewel
#

Same build for every fight

hearty reef
#

my raid group is using lust for adds phase and i feel like im missing a ton of dmg not running CT or IC

blazing jewel
#

Taking those talents makes your st piss

clever sapphire
#

you are missing a lot of dmg running CT or IC

blazing jewel
#

Adds are pad on that fight

hearty reef
#

ikr

blazing jewel
#

Your aoe for nelth is praying your poison bomb procs when they’re grouped

#

And the 3k damage your fan hits for kekdog

clever sapphire
#

and that fan actually gives you more than 1 point dracthyr_kek

hearty reef
#

yeah fok not givng me full cp is very trollish

#

but i think sin has a very nice niche for phase 2

#

im delaying Dm for the voice spawn and putting garrote and rup on nelth and voice

blazing jewel
#

Sins niche rn is bossfuckerx (sort by boss damage and ignore the all damage section)

hearty reef
#

nice dmg

#

if im not wrong i should get 4 bleeds that way

#

very nice funneling

#

about ig and subterfuge interaction: if i would run subterfuge from main tree, would all garrote i press from stelth vanish be IG?

clever sapphire
#

why would yo do that is the question

hearty reef
#

2 targets

#

vanish and put ig on both

blazing jewel
#

You kinda get that already

clever sapphire
#

but its built into ig

hearty reef
#

??

#

holy shit im blind nvm

#

ty

blazing jewel
hearty reef
#

so subterfuge is completely useless for sin?

#

kek

blazing jewel
#

Huge ambush value

hearty reef
#

lmao even

grand trail
clever sapphire
blazing jewel
#

Stop the cook

#

Nonono

blazing jewel
clever sapphire
#

but only if you get blindside procs after, now you need procs for a top log

#

sounds like fun

quiet oar
clever sapphire
#

even more procs*

blazing jewel
#

That’s going to be me in main raid today

royal lantern
#

echo with trials?

blazing jewel
vapid sierra
#

They’re making you play the superior dot spec?

blazing jewel
#

Ptr when

blissful forge
#

atleast you dont need to play enha like me besad

#

i mean its fun but the consistency with storm build is just yikes

grand trail
#

Wish we have enha

clever sapphire
blissful forge
#

is this a real question?

clever sapphire
#

ye, im pretty sure like 90% of shamys play elementalist

blissful forge
#

no way sherlock, on sark/echo/zskarn ye

clever sapphire
#

shamy discord bamboozled me, i once asked and they told me storm sucks

peak lake
#

Finally sarka is dead yey, ending with a 119k on boss dmg without monk

vestal wren
#

big gz

peak lake
#

.2 announcement waiting room now ye ?

vestal wren
#

10.1.7 waiting room

#

^ ping system introduction

peak lake
#

I'm looking forward to being able to farm Dawn's dagger in the next tier so I never see it drop :))

spice surge
#

No bait ping either, which is for the better

vestal wren
#

yet

#

no questionmark ping yet

#

i think it is fairly limited

#

you can't do stuff like ping a cooldown or mana bar

slate crown
#

afaik you can put them in macros and do @target etc

midnight mist
#

But I wonder how it would work

#

Since a lot of people play without bars really

slate crown
#

Like make a ping macro which also shows an icon to everyone

midnight mist
#

Just with wa

#

So you couldn't just click ping a spell

vestal wren
#

similar to league of legends

slate crown
#

"CD ping and this is my CD I'm pinging you about", you can't do this now but it would be interesting

vestal wren
#

when you can ping cooldowns

#

or stuff and it would post sth in chat

#

pings allow some additional form of communication

midnight mist
#

Ye it's quite cool

vestal wren
#

also would make pugging a lot easier

nimble vector
#

is there a reason the class tree without resounding clarity isn't recommended even though it sims higher?

clever sapphire
#

unless you have a talkative group

vestal wren
#

possible

#

i have my chat sorted in tabs