assassination

[runic hinge]

Realz isn’t even the pvp balance team. He’s the rogue dev

He doesn’t do tuning

[cunning dust]

he was one of the best pvp rogues back in the day

[gusty mirage]

nah man it's his fault

clearly

and ours

for "wanting things changed"

[strange python]

class trinket or chromatic essence

[proven jasper]

You have a point but it would make sense we’d be in there with the bodies

[gusty mirage]

essence more consistent, trinket can be big damn if you proc during CDs

[strange python]

i feel like its easier to r1 with class trinket

[cunning dust]

you guys, glad i confirmed u are messing the stuff up

[strange python]

yea essence is garbage

[subtle kiln]

we’re having a pvp shadowdance conversation in assa channel.

[cunning dust]

im returning to pvp channel

[gusty mirage]

ya just need some giga crits

[subtle kiln]

on god wtf is this

[gusty mirage]

good, and don't come back. thanks

[proven jasper]

I KNOW

WHO BRINGS UP DANCE

[runic hinge]

It’s true. We have much influence over what happens

[proven jasper]

IN ASSA CHANNEL

[gusty mirage]

pvpers

who else

[subtle kiln]

zac

[proven jasper]

u cracked fr

Zac has a pass

[subtle kiln]

just saying

[strange python]

even heroic class trinket feels better

[gusty mirage]

he is my adopted child, so he gets free reign

[proven jasper]

yes

[gusty mirage]

especially when it comes to muting @ebon notch

well that was a nice clown fiesta

tldr for people who just showed up

[proven jasper]

Needed that tbh

[gusty mirage]

stop ruining pvp for pvpers by wanting your specs to function in a way that's fun for you

ok?

your needs are RUINING pvp

[subtle kiln]

maybe just fking use the talent tuning knobs in pvp and adjust whatever the hell you need to

[gusty mirage]

if you're going to leave, leave

[subtle kiln]

guess who back

[gusty mirage]

stop typing in here

[proven jasper]

🤡

[subtle kiln]

back again

[runic hinge]

This is too much

[proven jasper]

HAHA

[subtle kiln]

clown pop denied

[runic hinge]

2spooky4me

[final star]

[subtle kiln]

back to using all my shadowdance burst to beat the shit out of the 12 year old dishwasher that stopped working.

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

[subtle kiln]

fucking kids

[proven jasper]

HAHAH

im crying dude

[gusty mirage]

wait

can we revisit @desert inlet playing hunter in bfa

wtf

that's grounds for a ban imo

[balmy condor]

What did I open the channel to

[ebon notch]

What happened lmao

[gusty mirage]

pvper came in here crying that we're ruining pvp

[ebon notch]

Did you purge

[gusty mirage]

with our "sims"

and something about 100 points

and how vendetta is better than deathmark

[ebon notch]

I remember when oxi personally patched pvp out of the game

[balmy condor]

I just read through it jesus

not one coherent response

[gusty mirage]

it's true, I also did all the sims to personally show the wow team how to ruin pvp

[ebon notch]

Insane

[ember mural]

Incoming reddit post

[gusty mirage]

that's so 2022

I want a Threads about me

[runic hinge]

Oxi bullying everyone out of rh again

[gusty mirage]

true

especially with my sims

[subtle kiln]

have a X post

[gusty mirage]

aren't those reserved for saucy DMs?

[subtle kiln]

no that’s tinder

[gusty mirage]

oh

[subtle kiln]

and door dash

[gusty mirage]

door dash?

is that how I get them to stop charging me $20 for a burger and fries?

a lil gawk gawk 2000?

[subtle kiln]

read dasher reddit

some hidden gems

[quiet oar]

Ty for the tldr, sounds cursed

[blazing jewel]

Oxi is so mf hot on god frfr

[ebon notch]

simp

[drifting cloud]

that guy has 32k posts in pvp

[blazing jewel]

Make him uncomfortable it’s your turn

[ebon notch]

uh

pass

[proven jasper]

I seriously thought this was a joke until i checked

[subtle kiln]

we don’t joke about post counts in this discord

[versed mica]

What did I miss, the post was deleted LOL

[vestal wren]

yep

[quiet oar]

Fuu 500k messages

Damn

[balmy condor]

wait

that means guy passed fuu

[vestal wren]

guy did pass me yes

i

would

need

to

type

like

this

to compete

[limber hollow]

.

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

macro an ahk script to spam #bot-spam when you go to sleep

[vestal wren]

(i already got annoyed at myself half way through that)

[blazing jewel]

He’s coming for you

[balmy condor]

oh buddy

you don't know

[vestal wren]

moroes has even more if you include the log channels

[subtle kiln]

this seems pin worthy

actual burial

well done fuu

[vestal wren]

its a joke, also sorry for bringing not staying on topic

we can go back to #assassination related talks

[subtle kiln]

you are on topic for #assassination

[runic hinge]

Okay so about making ic put deathmark on every target

[vestal wren]

its great that Nightstalker finally has a reason and talent combo so it does not feel left out on #assassination

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vestal wren]

is it worth the trade off?

[runic hinge]

Wait your assa ST and dslice sim 1700 dps apart?

[proven jasper]

is there an explanation of how ns works for sin?

like

is it only true stealth?

[vestal wren]

yes, because dungeon slice does not sim with all raid buffs

[quiet oar]

You los rc with night Stalker?

[vestal wren]

it did sim higher

[misty holly]

My single target sims higher than dungeon slice, because I include buffs with that but no buffs (besides heroism) with DS.

[vestal wren]

but you can go with rc too, probably best to sim it with your gear

eleem mentioned that he sims higher with er+ rc (and nightstalker)

[quiet oar]

Only er is only 1 empowered cp right

Rc does the more cps get empowered thing

[vestal wren]

options might be close

but i am not certain people would rly trade off utility for such a low dps increase

[quiet oar]

It might feel slower

[runic hinge]

I mean still. The difference between sub and OL ST and dslice is like 20k

[vestal wren]

as mentioned, it might be that er + ns sims higher for your gear

[vestal wren]

that has multiple reasons

#1 assassinations aoe damage isn't that great

[runic hinge]

Yeah obviously lol

[vestal wren]

#2 mobs might die too fast to give full benefit to bleed effects in the sim

[runic hinge]

It’s just I didn’t realize the difference was that stark

[vestal wren]

it is probably lower in keys

because mobs surivive longer, so you can theoretically get more value from bleed effects

[runic hinge]

True. Assa feels better once I hit like 19ish and get ic for every pack

[desert inlet]

wtf you tried to ban me while I was in the shower??

[blazing jewel]

We don’t shower here smh

[spice spire]

Bro?

I shower twice a day dog tf u mean

[blazing jewel]

We sit here and ferment until 10.2

[strange niche]

Finally someone else that showers twice a day

[spice spire]

I developed the habit during Covid

[vestal wren]

once a day typically, only twice if i get dirty / sweaty

[blazing jewel]

Twice a day is superior

[strange niche]

I can’t go to bed dirty but I hate going to work without showering

[blazing jewel]

Get too dirty at work it’s a requirement

[quiet oar]

And He isnt even talking about the actual working

[desert inlet]

I'm a NEET who lives off of my tribal revenue share and yt/twitch money

[blazing jewel]

Uhh yea I’m like a stripper or something

[blazing jewel]

That’s the life

[quiet oar]

Strip down for me while repairing this toyota

[blazing jewel]

You and the cat

[blazing jewel]

385 an hour bozo

[spice spire]

I sweat overnight while I sleep so I have to shower for work, had to come home strip and shower. Just kinda got in the habit of it

[blazing jewel]

How often does George shower

[desert inlet]

stinky

[blazing jewel]

He seems like a stink

[spice spire]

Not enough

He’s a stinker

[desert inlet]

[spice spire]

Man, I just didn’t wanna give my fiancée Covid, I’m not a stinker

[gray crest]

gotta get george to enjoy the water like lily. she basically gets a bath everytime we water the plants

[quiet oar]

You are expensive man

[blazing jewel]

I wish I got that

That’s the shop fee for me to uhh “strip on your Toyota”

[quiet oar]

[desert inlet]

you should strip on toyotas under the table

[blazing jewel]

Okay I am a stripping Toyota

Open my doors and call me dirty

[quiet oar]

[runic hinge]

You’re dirty

[quiet oar]

Hello dirty

[blazing jewel]

What do we do until patch

[runic hinge]

Same thing we do every day

Cook some wack shit

[quiet oar]

Raidlogging only

[desert inlet]

baldur's gate 3

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

Show you play time scana

[blazing jewel]

We need to get quake to stream csgo

Uhh I think I’m at like 160

[blazing jewel]

Not home right now so I can’t check

[quiet oar]

Cant be Real

[desert inlet]

what game that is?

[gusty mirage]

maple story

has to be

[quiet oar]

Im calling it

Whispyr played terraria

6000 hours

[blazing jewel]

RH terraria server

[final star]

what fucking game does this mf have 276 days played in

that isn't wow

[balmy condor]

here you can guess another one

[final star]

disgustang

[woeful meteor]

Thoughts on 4pc sepsis in Sark p1 @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Factorio

[final star]

that's probably poe or something

[woeful meteor]

[balmy condor]

hes good, hes good

aight

whoever gets this

is cheating

[final star]

cookie clicker

[spice spire]

Wallpaper simulator

[balmy condor]

[final star]

[spice spire]

Didn’t see that coming

[final star]

my condolences

[balmy condor]

for the record you were close, poe is higher tho

[runic hinge]

Damn I woulda guessed that

[final star]

I don't have that much even

and I only got to like eagle

[runic hinge]

Bc that’s like my exact playtime for Csgo too

[woeful meteor]

I outdpsed you filthy PI abuser with it in P1 so it's superior

overall my sark try today was so good and then I have to run bombs

[balmy condor]

it's also not up for p2 in time

[woeful meteor]

it is

beat you in p2 as well

[balmy condor]

dog legit isn't

unless you're clipping garrotes

it is not up

[woeful meteor]

thats true

but is there any downside of extending imp gar during pandemic with imp gar?

[balmy condor]

pandemic is not clipping

[woeful meteor]

then I'm lost eli5 pls

[balmy condor]

you have your stealth garrote, that's 18 seconds, you then extend it with a vanish, that's another 18 seconds, that's 36 seconds

you come up at 2:00

ain't up

I tried it on prog and it was always off by 5 seconds

[woeful meteor]

but when I sepsis at 30 gar is at 6 sec so in pandemic range

[balmy condor]

yeah but then you clip the second garrote

well I guess that happens normally in the opener anyway

so that would cancel

idk if it's up for you pog then

fuck sepsis

hate this shit

[woeful meteor]

sepsis runs 10 sec second buff lasts 10 sec that's gar back to 4 sec once the buff would run out

[balmy condor]

how much did your sepsis do in p1

[woeful meteor]

740k

730*

[balmy condor]

yeh that's not bad

my sepsis normally like 530-590 depending on crits

[woeful meteor]

ye it's 545 in yesterdays kill

same time I had sophic during it you didn't so whatever

wont change a thing and fuck parsing this cursed ass tier

[balmy condor]

all the rng shit

I'm just gonna say that sepsis during opener is better because higher change your nelth trinket and sophics proc at the start of the fight and that's better than tier set

that's my cope

[spice spire]

Seethe bozo

[grand trail]

what im reading, i cant pandemic extend imrpoved garroted with another improved garrote (vanish) ?

[balmy condor]

bro if sophic and nelth trinket procs during opener, and I have potion, I legit go from like 9k agi to like 16k

shit is dumb fucking stupid

and I got 0 control over it

doesn't proc? L

[blazing jewel]

Less thinking with sepsis in opener

[balmy condor]

you're not reading very well

[grand trail]

im confused and tired

[balmy condor]

it's okay pookie put the phone down it's sleep time

[grand trail]

when i just find out that i can drop shorter sprint for 200 dps with NS

[balmy condor]

bro if people start playing 1/2 NS

I'm actually gonna throw a fit

[blazing jewel]

Bro the worst part of this spec rn is that ER 3 and sepsis 2 come up at the same time and both dots are falling 2s before they come off cd

I got beef with that

[balmy condor]

actual simdps apes

[grand trail]

well im sub player so im use to 2min sprint

but douzble step is refreshing

[blazing jewel]

What do they even swap for it

[balmy condor]

what about sepsis gar dropping and you go to vanish but er comes up

[blazing jewel]

I missed this

[balmy condor]

you drop the er improvment

and just play solo er

[blazing jewel]

What the fuck

Is that

Would that actually feel awful for energy management

That’s like half the point of er

[balmy condor]

you gotta do this

[runic hinge]

Wow that’s ugly

[grand trail]

or you can just play NS

that was like 190dps for me 😄

you lose just 1min sprint

im not doing either

[balmy condor]

190 dps

margin of error is like 140

[grand trail]

suree

but im use to 2min sprint 😛

[blazing jewel]

Sprint is actually useless this tier

Thoughts

[grand trail]

idk i messed opener on two bosses today so this wont save me

[balmy condor]

idk if the energy management would be the issue, but the bigger thing is like you gar snd er -> whoops not on an animacharge

reactionary openers

are not it

[final star]

0.2% for NS for me

[grand trail]

unless you play opener from FAQ than i do not matter that much i guees

[balmy condor]

crazy!

[blazing jewel]

Idk I just feel that ER saves you so many mutilates over a boss fight

[balmy condor]

yeh that's sorta why it's like that

[final star]

I WILL NOT EXHIL HERE

[balmy condor]

guys how much haste do we want with nightstalker?

[final star]

what is the crit cap

[balmy condor]

you know whats crazy to me lowkey

[blazing jewel]

!stats

[balmy condor]

the like

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

level we go to

to min-max for 0.1%

and then there's just a mountain below that

[final star]

I saw that assa takes improved sprint

[balmy condor]

of people who are like yeah idk what that acronym is

[final star]

and then I saw NS removes that

[balmy condor]

yeah idk what sepsis is

I'm just gonna play bone spike instead

holding shiv for deathmark? nah I'm just gonna slam on cd that's probably fine

[blazing jewel]

I feel like for a lot of us we minmax because the tools are there and once you understand them a bit it’s not difficult to do

So it’s like a why not scenario

[balmy condor]

in some situations sure

but at what point does it go from a "oh easy" to just chasing raidbots dps

[blazing jewel]

And most importantly

It keeps us sane in reclear

[balmy condor]

raidbots ain't vanishing until dm

it's like 1.1 or 1.2% worse

depending on the kill time

[blazing jewel]

I was explaining that to our dh and he said can’t you just use it in the opener how does holding a 2 min for 2:15 make sense

[final star]

sepsis

[balmy condor]

yeh

turns out if you're flooded in ways to get improved garrote

and vanish's only purpose is improved garrote

it kinda fucking sucks

[final star]

having the benefit of stealth garrote for like half a minute might as well hold it til big dam

[grand trail]

i dont like this holding vanish for second dm, feels bad

[final star]

rogue is very well designed ok

[balmy condor]

then don't hold it

[blazing jewel]

I know rogue has a lot of defensives but I feel making vanish a defensive or a mobility cd is the play

[balmy condor]

just have to use brain power

and plan cds more

which people already brainmelt over

[desert inlet]

it is a mobility cd if you're slowed

[blazing jewel]

[clever sapphire]

i almost felt insulted, then realised i barely sim 131k and dont give a shit about it

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean that's fine

I don't recommend sepsis to any rogue that asks

[final star]

Would you recommend it to me in a cold winter evening over a cup of cocoa?

[balmy condor]

maybe

but like sbs is legit 1% worse

[blazing jewel]

Marshmallows or no marshmallows

[balmy condor]

and infinitely easier

if you're not some giga parsewhore

you will never notice

[burnt latch]

[balmy condor]

even regular mythic andy progging rashok or magmorax or whatever right now

deadass just play bone spike

it's just so much easier

[burnt latch]

Sepsis aint really rocket science either tbf

[balmy condor]

for 95% of the community, it is

[final star]

ya with a little handheld torch to brown the top 😳

[vale mulch]

Bone spike is more fun imo

[final star]

I press sepsis

I press other button

I press shiv

[flint tusk]

plus bonespike gives you ranged uptime but that's splitting hairs

[balmy condor]

vanishing on cd and then holding sepsis for 10 seconds to cover the 2 min dm and waiting on the buff after sepsis expires and not slamming your shivs for it

that's a fucking mountain of thinking

[clever sapphire]

a fellow bonespike enjoyer i see

[balmy condor]

that the vast majority of the community

simply can't, or won't do

[flint tusk]

and thus leading to even lower than that 1% difference

[vale mulch]

It doesn’t go away until they die. What’s not to enjoy?

[spice spire]

Mood

[clever sapphire]

i mean i liked stepsis too for a few weeks

[spice spire]

If you bonespike an ally while they’re corrupted it goes away when the debuff goes away

[balmy condor]

Idk how anyone can seriously tell me that sepsis isn't confusing as fuck when we had people in season 1 confused on whether or not they re-cast bone spike if the target already has the bleed

there's a gap between those two things skill and knowledge wise

[spice spire]

True

[balmy condor]

that you simply cannot bridge

[burnt latch]

Anything is confusing if youre stupid

[clever sapphire]

not if you kill them before, in that case it was on them till the end

[burnt latch]

[final star]

I'm confused a lot

[balmy condor]

it ain't even that they're stupid

they just don't play at that level

[spice spire]

You’re literally in the wrong chat brother

[clever sapphire]

more like not giving enough fucks to bother with that amount of minmaxing

[final star]

now what

[balmy condor]

if it's not "slam cooldown on cooldown", it's difficult

[spice spire]

In my experience, you’re about to ask me how much haste you should have to play sin

[final star]

I may be British but I'm not THAT British

[spice spire]

Nice filter evade

🫡

[final star]

[spice spire]

Whoops

[clever sapphire]

just the right amount

[burnt latch]

U dirty dog

[final star]

I am new to ROgue what is the Crit cap

[spice spire]

[burnt latch]

I should go for another mystical raid arc

[spice spire]

My guilds needs the warcieft

[burnt latch]

I’m a wanted man

Loads of requests to come play coming in on the daily (high wr guilds only(1.5k))

[final star]

you are legally obligated to play dk now

that you have asscandy

[blazing jewel]

Whisp guy

[blazing jewel]

Do you have a cheat sheet of kill times where it’s worth to delay sepsis

And vanish on cd

Asking for a friend

[burnt latch]

That sounds terrible

[subtle kiln]

this is your goaL

[final star]

[burnt latch]

I decline the offer

[final star]

offer acceptably declined

[blazing jewel]

Nothing but speed

[burnt latch]

decline acceptancy accepted

[subtle kiln]

I can maybe off your a scath if my brain unscrambles

[final star]

biggest trade offer to date

[spice spire]

Reprogging echoes?

[burnt latch]

Dude the guild that i helped on echo last week went again this week

The logs werent a pleasant watch

[subtle kiln]

no but just been struggling to keep enough focus

[spice spire]

No I mean that’s what you’d be doing

I feel you tho

[subtle kiln]

w/e

i don’t actually mind it

[burnt latch]

Going from multiple sub 1% pulls to this

I dont understand how ppl keep their sanity playing the game like this

4 changes in roster per raid, reprog

[royal lantern]

good old re-progress

[woeful meteor]

If sepsis sticks around post rework/seems to be viable going into 10.2 I'll probably write it for me, can send it to you then

[blazing jewel]

[grand trail]

reprogress is worst but we lost couple of our best people to better guilds after sark kill and now every raid is with different people

atleast we have smooth raid with no wipes but still

we got like 0 good trials in return so far 😄

[dawn haven]

Same thing happened to my guild last week because of new trials and a bunch of roster changes. I was on bench for Sark/echo and it turned out that I was just afk for the whole night.

I was in for first boss, they did skip then I just played bg3 for the next 3hrs lmfao

[blazing jewel]

Which one of you has a spriest alt

I need to dethrone @balmy condor next week

[balmy condor]

my 100 got locked

it'll live on my parse page forever

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

don't care

[blazing jewel]

NA lock in time is the best

@earnest remnant Sunday night lock in is good too right

[final star]

@balmy condorI forgot to say that going 4CP ER with NS is within margin of no 4CP ER by dropping a lethality for me but 0.2% gain for losing improved sprint

[balmy condor]

my head hurts

[balmy condor]

yeh

[final star]

I can't push my buttons, my head hurts, I'm having an aneurism

[balmy condor]

that's cringe

cringe talent page

[final star]

no imp sprint is yucky

10.2 is our last bastion of hope for this class

this expac

[blissful forge]

is the assa sim in fuus shit with buzzing or hissing rune?

[spice surge]

Default is crit runes

[blissful forge]

aight

[spice surge]

But haste, mastery and crit can all be good depending on what stats you have atm

[blissful forge]

ye i will just run multiple sims with different runes selected

[river ember]

When you pop sepsis after opener are you immediately overwriting your existing garrote with the empowered one or holding until first empowered buff is about to expire?

[blazing jewel]

the first one you can kind of fit it whenever its a good time

like 1cp off of anima point or if its going to run out

second one you want to hold as long as possible

[blissful forge]

hmmmm

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/okrVLtvmLyrCt1WbrvJnwH

do i swap to assa?

sim seems juiced ngl

[balmy condor]

if you want to play it, play it

[subtle kiln]

weird take, but play what you enjoy

unless it’s just a sim flex 💪🏻

[tacit leaf]

is this the place where I can ask for someone to help teach me sin again since I've been out from wow for a year?

[strange python]

!fuu

[balmy condor]

faq and wowhead/icyveins usually are the go-to recommendations

we don't really have "brand new" type resources aside from those

[gray horizon]

i have a really dumb question, that i should prob know the answer to already

does master poisoner affect atrophic poison?

there's no way, right?

[spice surge]

it does yes

[gray horizon]

...

oh wow

that's def better than 10 less energy for feint

[balmy condor]

from 3% to a whopping 3.6%

[gray horizon]

still better!

[balmy condor]

true

[gray horizon]

i've been so greedy this whole time

[final star]

that extra 0.6% man

[gray horizon]

[blissful forge]

i kinda want but i dont know actually, im not familiar with current assa playstyle at all

but it looks bonkers for farm

for boss damage thats why i did the sim

[tacit leaf]

what would be the next step from that? if any

[balmy condor]

next step from written guides and the faq?

nothing really

just gameplay

faq should have basically everything needed

[gray horizon]

the opener is outdated tho

[balmy condor]

It’s not :)

[gray horizon]

!!!

isn't it gar snd ER rup sep DM shiv

omg

there's text

that just proved me wrong

i only know how to look at pictures im sorry

[balmy condor]

It’s impossible to have every variance and every disclaimer and whatever all in an image

Makes it very difficult

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-brain-loading-gif-20731521

[past forum]

the opener says that you CAN er first instead of mutilate, is there any circumstance where you'd do it as written with mutilate first? just curious

[balmy condor]

Yeh, you’d mutilate if you want to do like 25 more dps

The mutilate version is technically better

Everyone just kinda collectively agreed that er first “feels better”

And I ain’t gonna edit the images constantly for that kind of thing

[void mesa]

Can I ask how it ends up better? Just out of curiosity, not out of opposing the idea

Or is it just a mysterious robot thing?

[past forum]

big envenom right at the start of dm i'm assuming but i'm just people not robot

[balmy condor]

You guaranteed an ER envenom during dm shiv, and delay Deathmark for 1 extra second which can help amp poison stack timing in dm

[void mesa]

ahhh

[balmy condor]

Versus a flat duration increase on rupture

[void mesa]

I guess rupture duration is more convenient than it is actually "better"

[balmy condor]

It covers the full Deathmark regardless

You won’t notice the difference in that regard

It just feels weird to people to sit there and press mutilate 2, maybe even 3 times

Instead of just hitting er

[past forum]

spending charged points on rupture is better qol but worse damage, yeah?

[void mesa]

Yeah

[blazing jewel]

wouldnt the er envenom also have a higher chance for poison bomb during DM

if the dm poison thing even works on PB

[balmy condor]

Chance for pb yes

Dm poison thing I have no fucking clue what you’re talking about

[blazing jewel]

doesnt dm amplify poison damage while its up

might be remembering the tooltip wrong

[balmy condor]

Dm doubles amp poison

[past forum]

im glad i asked, cause getting a thicc envenom right after dm sounds better to me

[balmy condor]

Amp poison buffs envenom

Poison bomb is in fact different from envenom

[rapid prism]

what trinkets are being used by assa in M+?

[balmy condor]

You can tell because it’s called poison bomb and not envenom

[balmy condor]

Whatever sub is using

[blazing jewel]

wclogs would like a word with you

[balmy condor]

Merging damage by source is not equal to merging random bonus effects in your head because you’re a dentbrained parse whore

[blazing jewel]

lmfao

in my head I thought there was a damage amp on dm along with the double everything

I indeed was not correct

[balmy condor]

Maybe your guild can teach you how Assassination works

[blazing jewel]

real

I dont understand dots

let me go play outlaw instead

[vital haven]

wait im noob sin player

when do you send vanish

[blazing jewel]

[vital haven]

plz halp

[blazing jewel]

no u

[proven jasper]

u have 2 vanish at the start of combat to get in stealth

[past forum]

with sub it's (usually) better to send a bomb then beacon after dance. is it true with sin or better to beacon first?

[balmy condor]

Beacon after rupture before dm

[past forum]

whoa hold the phone my anvil sims better now, get lobbed u stinky bomb

[balmy condor]

Yeh anvil good if the fight lasts long enough

[blazing jewel]

anvil really depends on your kill time

[balmy condor]

If you’re stealthi you’d never run anvil in your life

[past forum]

my guild's kills are still on the longer end of kill times

[balmy condor]

Fucking 2:20 kazzara

[blazing jewel]

their sark kill time is more demonic

5:51 sark

???????????

[balmy condor]

Dude stealthi telling me that they might try to skip the second set of adds on sark

Made my head explode

[blazing jewel]

I like to think my guild has some blasters and my cope is we have alts in for our recent kills

but a full minute under our kills

what the fuck is that

[gusty mirage]

stealthi's just better

and hotter

[blazing jewel]

he is

[gusty mirage]

how does that make you feel

[blazing jewel]

they even gapped rank 2 speed

one of their augs is at 200k dps at the end of p1

[balmy condor]

They giga stack Aug tho

[spice surge]

Turns out augmenting big burst classes leads to big bursts

[balmy condor]

Like everyone’s simping one guy

[gusty mirage]

shut the front door

[spice surge]

Ye stacking them on the same target also makes it even better

[blazing jewel]

and they had double arms warrior taking the boss to pound town p3

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor babe log into poe

I found a new project

[balmy condor]

Uh oh

[gusty mirage]

it just requires a mirror and 120 divine fee

[balmy condor]

What

[gusty mirage]

we just one shot ubers

trust

get our money back in no time

[balmy condor]

Jesus

[earnest remnant]

press 1-2-3 better i dunno

[blazing jewel]

what are you feeding orby to delete every boss

[earnest remnant]

4 augs

its literally just that + he is good at the game

so it helps

[blazing jewel]

bro

hes a pandaren

HUHHH

[earnest remnant]

we made fun of him for losing to me on boss dps on Sark

and that he blue logged assault on our 30 sec kill

good memes

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

@blazing jewel bro you deadass look like a man and a woman had a child

[gilded oasis]

[blazing jewel]

?????

have you even seen what I look like outside of this pfp

[balmy condor]

Yeah

You don’t remember the nudes in our DM’s?

[blazing jewel]

nice

never forget the cheeks

[gilded oasis]

[blazing jewel]

I just sent him a fresh one

[spice surge]

Everyday this channels strays further from #assassination

[solid chasm]

damn where mine

(my bad)

[blazing jewel]

eleem you want one too

deeny is too pure

[balmy condor]

Help me

Please

[gilded oasis]

nice

[balmy condor]

I’m melting

[spice surge]

Thought that was your speedometer at first

[balmy condor]

It’s 90 outside

I can’t even open my windows

[gilded oasis]

i have my space heater running in my room rn cause my house is so cold

wanna visit

[balmy condor]

Yes

[solid chasm]

bruh

it was like 95 today

and im like thank god

[balmy condor]

It was 98 here today

And it was 90 at 10am

And now it’s 7pm

[gilded oasis]

toasty

[solid chasm]

its 12 less than it was like last week

[balmy condor]

And still 90

[gilded oasis]

my phone says 93

[runic hinge]

65 here

[gusty mirage]

57 here

[gilded oasis]

Oxi we're talking temperature not your age

smh my head

[cerulean nest]

yo how tf do we get the blossoms in p2 to be consistent. we have like 6 total melee, all in a perfect little line, where they should be, and its still wildly different pull to pull

i dont get it

[balmy condor]

if you pixel stack on top of each other it reduces the variance a lot

but it'll still randomly spread itself for no good reason

we legit just full stack on a tank in a pixel and that usually works good enough

[versed mica]

well there's your problem, it's set to 69 on heat

in needs to be set to 69 on cool 😎

[balmy condor]

I'm glad someone noticed

my heat is usually set to 70 but I knocked it down to 69 for the meme

[versed mica]

well I wasn't pointing out the meme, I thought that part was obvious

[gusty mirage]

weird that you're in a guild called elitist jerks

cause you can't be elitist about your WR

[gilded oasis]

tru. should be grey parsing world 900 jerks

I'll bring this up in the next monthly meeting

[gusty mirage]

also figure out why Ion crafted his helmet crit mastery in 9.0

thanks

as a resto shaman

[gilded oasis]

for the lulz Im sure

needed more crit heals

[runic hinge]

The low tonight will be 53. I think next week we will see the last 80 degree days of the year here.

[cerulean nest]

also there's no chance I would take wound poison to help with p3 adds right?

we're havoc and arms-less

[distant birch]

Loosing to much dps i guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

Havoc+armless should be fine

But if you are alone for the health reduc then i assume you dont have the choice

[cerulean nest]

nah like we don't have a havoc nor an arms war

[gusty mirage]

midwest?

[runic hinge]

North east

[distant birch]

If you have nothing to counter that. I assume that you need to switch only on P3 then. (depends if you have an issue is this part)

@cerulean nest

[gilded oasis]

I could be wrong but I think with cleave and maybe 1-2 focus they should die without healing reduce. Its probably not worth the cast to change poisons, reduced damage, then cast to change back potentially unless you just play all of p3 with wound. but maybe it is worth it.. id just try without and if they become a problem then maybe. Should be good enough with kicks/stops and cleave

[cerulean nest]

yeah I doubt I'm gonna do it

but it was thrown out as an option and I'm just making sure I'm not crazy saying that's a massive loss for me

[distant birch]

As i said before you are loosing dps for sure. But overall, if you have an issue with the health reduc then you should try to switch (only on P3) and you will see whats going on.

Even more if you dont have any Havoc or war idk

[balmy condor]

you would just dps through it

I can't imagine the p3 adds giving your raid such a hard time that you would need to swap to wound specifically for them

[quiet oar]

If you have a dh

He should skill mortal dance

[quiet oar]

Or could

Im dumb

Im sorry Mr whisp

[balmy condor]

it's okay, I struggle with reading sometimes too

[quiet oar]

If you werent sin

Wound poison wouldnt be that big of a loss but as sin its probably more?

[balmy condor]

correct

[quiet oar]

How much loss?

Do you know that?

[balmy condor]

bout 5-6%

but that's not including the time it takes to sit there and re-poison

cause poisons replace the oldest first

so you would sit there, cast wound poison

it would replace your oldest

and then since you play dtb

when you go to swap back

you would have to sit there, cast a poison

which would replace the good poison you have left

and then sit and cast again with the other poison

to replace wound

[quiet oar]

Oof ok not worth it. What classes have heal reduce?

[balmy condor]

warrior and dh

[quiet oar]

Feral?

[balmy condor]

don't think so

[quiet oar]

Monks have one

But its st

[balmy condor]

if it's really an issue it's probably worth for the monk to cleave the add one by one with it

int a couple gcds

versus making the rogue afk casting poisons for like 10 seconds

[quiet oar]

I mean you lose a bit of Boss dps

But with the enrage shoved back in timings

Shouldnt be an issue

[balmy condor]

yeh

[slate crown]

Could you make a macro that does cancelaura lethal poison

Then apply wound

So it only takes one cast

(Still probably not worth)

[balmy condor]

that would actually be even worse

[quiet oar]

It was movement speed decrease

For feral

[balmy condor]

cause you'd still run into the issue

like you have poison 1 and poison 2

doesn't matter what poisons they are

the number here being the order they were applied

so you cast poison 3, which replaces 2, since that's the oldest

and then in order to get poison 2 back

you would need to cast it, replace poison 1, which is now the new oldest

and then re-cast poison 1 to replace poison 3, which is the next oldest

cancel-auras don't do shit for that

the only thing you could do is cancel-aura one of the poisons

which would just mean you have to apply them twice

and you're sitting with only 1 poison on

which is even worse

[quiet oar]

Oh whisp i know another class

Warlocks Legion strike

Felguard

[slate crown]

I think there’s a hunter pet as well

[quiet oar]

Or hunter pets

Yeah devilsaur

[slate crown]

But like if you have Deadly and Amp up, cancelaura Deadly, cast wound, you’re saying if deadly was younger than Amp, the wound cast would overwrite Amp instead of applying Wound?

[balmy condor]

if you have deadly and amp up, cancelaura deadly, cast wound, you'd have amp and wound, and then you would need to cancelaura wound and cast deadly

that's the only way it would work

1 macro wouldn't cut it

if you just cancelaura deadly and cast wound

then amp would be the oldest

so you would be overriding the amp

so you have to get rid of that one too

[slate crown]

Well sure but you can have 2 macros side by side you use for the swap. It’s still downtime that other classes won’t have to be sure

[past forum]

or you could just go buy one of the old pvp trinkets that puts a heal absorb on, that might be good too

[balmy condor]

that might be the worst idea I've heard

you wouldn't even be able to swap out of it

so you're suggesting getting a dogshit trinket, losing probably more damage than just running wound the whole fight

and just suffering

all for like

2 sets of adds

at the end of the fight

that's FOR SURE not the move

but yeah double cancelaura macro saves a cast so that's technically better

but like lisonna said, none of this is even worth talking about

cause you just don't do it

[past forum]

oh i was being sarcastic

surely there's a hunter who can just play MS pet

or something better than all this

[balmy condor]

yeh

there's like 15 solutions before we need to start thinking about how to minimize the loss for a sin rogue

[slate crown]

I mean I assumed at a baseline this is comparing sin impact to no other MS, clearly a sin rogue doing this is the worst of all options

Other than just not having anything, if that’s even worse which it might not be

[quiet oar]

And tbf

Wound poison is only 24% without the Talent for the Extra 2 Stacks

[past forum]

yeah for the sake of this hypothetical where your raid has 0 havoc, ww, arms, hunter, demo, etc i think it's probably better to just deal with it

[clever sapphire]

just make some of the other classes who lose like nothing by cleaving, target cleave

[royal lantern]

leave the raid then

[quiet oar]

Anyone played with anvil here as sin

[peak lake]

250 dps gain with this, not sure it's worth it :p

[balmy condor]

no one's playing it

so take that however you'd like

[peak lake]

ho wrong image

most of fight sprint 1 mn is useless so

Fun thing u were talking about wound on sarka, guild asked me to play this yesterday cuz our havoc is on vacation. I just told them to fuck off

But was wondering the los of playing wound whole fight

[balmy condor]

5-6%

[peak lake]

The fury gonna pad for me or goes arm fk it

[balmy condor]

warrior should def go arms

[peak lake]

ofc

[balmy condor]

arms cranks that fight

[peak lake]

we're switching comp every week cuz of summer

pretty boring

[balmy condor]

tomorrow is september

you're still suffering from summer roster in september?

[quiet oar]

Its Not September

[blazing jewel]

where is whispyr man

I need to acquire a r1 amalg

[balmy condor]

that's why I said tomorrow is september

[blazing jewel]

when there are 2 targets how do you do the opener

[quiet oar]

You get me with my Bad reading again

Stab me whisp please

[blazing jewel]

we will crowdfund whispyr exactly 3 redbulls

[balmy condor]

gar1 gar2 snd er rup -> normal, spread the second rupture after

[blazing jewel]

would spread the second be after the full dm or just after you press the dm shiv

[quiet oar]

But tbf isnt September Summer

It Sure feels like it

[balmy condor]

sure but what fucking lunatic takes a summer break in september

[balmy condor]

after the dm

[blazing jewel]

rodger

thanks fam

[balmy condor]

np

[blazing jewel]

r1 amalg for sure next time

[quiet oar]

The people who want chill vacations without Kids with Summer vacations

[quiet oar]

You are alway my r1

[blazing jewel]

im washed

no r1s

tiramil time to rise up

and get rank 0

[quiet oar]

Best i can Do is 0 log

Take it or leave it

[lavish hazel]

Scana is a beast

I think

Idk

[midnight mist]

Nah scanna is just an opp

[lavish hazel]

An opp

Ok Ziak

@midnight mist how can you be 24/24 here

Are you sleeping tho ?

[midnight mist]

Ye I sleep

[lavish hazel]

When

[midnight mist]

From like 1AM to 7AM everyday

[lavish hazel]

Uh

Ur eyes are burning

I Hope you have glasses with blue lights filter

I forgot mine today btw Im mad

[midnight mist]

Wdym

You mean for being on the computer all day?

[lavish hazel]

Yes

[midnight mist]

Kinda is my work + studies + passion so

[lavish hazel]

It doesn’t change the glasses factor

[midnight mist]

Can't really do anything about that

I don't have no glasses

[lavish hazel]

Do you have it thats my question

Damn

U should

I also work on screen all day I do have glasses

It changes life

[balmy condor]

U boutta

[midnight mist]

Why

[lavish hazel]

For your eyes

Obviously

[midnight mist]

Do staring at screens actually bad

Or is that a myth

From old people

[lavish hazel]

Is it a real question

[midnight mist]

Yes

[lavish hazel]

It is bad yes

Can’t really explain in Eng but blue lights fuck your eyes up and looking close for something fcked the settings of ur eyes

Idk how to explain

If you are on screen 15h/day it’s a game changer to have glasses

I saw the difference immediately when I got it

[clever sapphire]

thats the reason i sometimes just go out and stare in the distance

to let my eyes readjust

[lavish hazel]

Ye

Smart move

[midnight mist]

What

[lavish hazel]

I look at the windows

Between boss

Lmaoooo

[midnight mist]

Uh

Bro idk my eyes don't hurt?

[lavish hazel]

Because ur young

[clever sapphire]

play augvoker, you can do it mid pull too

[midnight mist]

Im not young anymore

Already 23

[lavish hazel]

Think to the future even if we probably dead in 10 y

[midnight mist]

Almost 24

[clever sapphire]

mine either, but it helps your eyes in the longterm

[midnight mist]

If you think about it

That's like

[lavish hazel]

I have the same age and we are young btw

[midnight mist]

A quarter of your life

[clever sapphire]

i mean i wont wear glasses, but i will keep staring outside whenever

so my eyes dont forget how to focus into the distance

[lavish hazel]

That’s some serious stuff

[clever sapphire]

i also dont have any eye problems, got pretty good eyes from what i have realised

i can read shit some people cant even with their glasses and whatnot

[midnight mist]

My eyes are fucked up

[lavish hazel]

Ok Itachi

[midnight mist]

I can't see far

But like

Not that far

[lavish hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/taupe-moumoute-top-gif-20680805

[midnight mist]

And I don't have glasses

Because like 5 years ago when I went to get some

I was told everything was fine and I didn't need glasses

Even tho I knew I needed some

[clever sapphire]

just get your eyes lasered, and rtb if you can see or go blind

[lavish hazel]

Lmaoooo

[midnight mist]

I'm way too lazy

[clever sapphire]

wait how did theey not realize that your eyes are shit

but you knew about it

[midnight mist]

Idk

[lavish hazel]

Bro outsmarted doctors

[midnight mist]

I couldn't read the blackboard at school anymore

Had to sit in the front

And yet apparently everything was fine

I'm still mad at these mfs

[clever sapphire]

thats not how its supposed to work

sue them

[midnight mist]

[clever sapphire]

they told a guy who has eye problems that he is fine

[midnight mist]

Ye

[clever sapphire]

where is oxi when we need lawyer takes

[lavish hazel]

Btw I have a guildie who has 2 fingers fcuked off he went to SOS hand in France and they say you have nothing wrong, he couldn’t even move his finger

[midnight mist]

I had to force them to actually give me glasses, but I just ended up with some useless one with almost no correction

Fast forward now

I can see even less but I don't need to see anymore

[near valley]

Legally blind mofo

[midnight mist]

[clever sapphire]

damn just come to austria, i got a few bruises because a car hit me and i got 1 week off school and got paid 1k so i can repair my bike

[near valley]

Who paid u 1k for ur bike?

[lavish hazel]

R u ok

[midnight mist]

I mean I'm french we have pretty decent health care and shit ye

I just got unlucky

[lavish hazel]

Insurance i guess

[midnight mist]

Happens

[near valley]

Should have gone to specsavers

[clever sapphire]

it was some insurance thingy, where im actually working now. We pay like 40 euros a year or so for it

[lavish hazel]

Huge

Austria looks nice tho

I almost did and internship there

[clever sapphire]

i could even fall off a cliff and if i call them there they will send a rescue team no matter where i am

so pretty insane when i think about it

[midnight mist]

I mean I think thats like

[clever sapphire]

time to climb a mountain without rope

[midnight mist]

everywhere

but USA

[burnt latch]

even USA has mountain rescue

[clever sapphire]

ye its got quite a few nice places

[lavish hazel]

It depends tho

[burnt latch]

its pretty normal to have you know, rescue services

[lavish hazel]

In France if you break your leg at skiing out of a pist you have to pay tho

[clever sapphire]

but dont you pay some insane money in the USA for it?

[lavish hazel]

I guess you do

[clever sapphire]

i have no idea about these things ngl

[burnt latch]

idk

[blazing jewel]

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