#assassination

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keen spruce
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wait i thought we goin at 5:30

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did i woopsies

blazing jewel
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Stacked a group with 3 rogues

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No knife dead

agile osprey
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4 weeks of doing that

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no knives

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and idk i coulda swore it was 8

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idc either way

blazing jewel
keen spruce
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lemmy do this aram rq

blazing jewel
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-1k dps

keen spruce
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my b amigo

pure moth
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830 est like usual

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Im still driving home

blazing jewel
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my sim wants so much haste

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this is wack

keen spruce
agile osprey
pure moth
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Loading game. Be right in

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The earliest im ever around is now. Never sooner

tight atlas
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yall hard switching to the big sark add or just tossing a rupture garrote and full send on sark?

blazing jewel
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depends on what your comp needs

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but most just dot add and swap back to sark

agile osprey
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@keen spruce @pure moth he isnt alone

agile osprey
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holy fuck

balmy condor
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wish I was bis

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I'm still missing like 4 pieces

pure moth
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you both were in outlaw.. holy shit

agile osprey
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we are the worst funnel group

keen spruce
balmy condor
keen spruce
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we're actually

balmy condor
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no shot

keen spruce
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the dumbest people alive

pure moth
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no wonder why we've seen the same trinket over and over

keen spruce
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I've been in OL loot spec for months

balmy condor
keen spruce
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i just wanted to collect some weps from vault

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idon't even know why

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i haven't played that spec since season 1

gilded oasis
past forum
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Plundering your own loot

ruby birch
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so

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i tried playing assa

subtle tundra
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miau

ruby birch
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13% sophic uptime

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25% crit on bomb, 30% on envenom with 45% crit stat

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pog

dawn haven
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pog

past bobcat
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I just got this on a kill

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Should I go buy a lotto ticket LMAO

hearty field
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Hey, I pulled Mark of Dargrul from Vault, is it really that bad? It sims substantially worse than even Accelerating Spyglass in aoe and that seems really strange to me.

balmy condor
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yes

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it's aoeful

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but yeh thing is super garbo

blazing jewel
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@balmy condor check sophic

blazing jewel
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I love this game

hearty field
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Dang, oh well. Means I can trade trinkets now lmao

blazing jewel
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only 18% class trinket too

balmy condor
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dude my nelth trinket procced perfectly between my deathmarks

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very sick

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my wafting devotion didn't proc until 2 min in

ruby birch
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this game not real

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how come sophic and crits were never a problem last tier man

dawn haven
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:)

balmy condor
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they were

spice surge
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Shouldve been a bigger problem even since sophic gave proportonially more agility last raid (since you had lower overall agility)

dawn haven
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I found a better one

ruby birch
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look at that class trinket uptime too

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sheesh

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i love my options, 0 crit beacon, 25% crit bomb, and 10% uptime nelth trink pOg

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every week is a low roll on all bosses G5ICANT

dawn haven
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2 procs unlucky

past bobcat
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@balmy condor talents for experiments? Full ST or cleave?

balmy condor
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full st

balmy condor
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@blazing jewel

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where you at dude

earnest remnant
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imagine being ful bis

blazing jewel
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I was on bomb duty qtpie

earnest remnant
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and getting shafted like that

balmy condor
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imagine

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you're simming higher than fuu's sheet

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and you get absolutely dumpstered

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by some fool who needs like 5 items off sark

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@indigo ether idk bout your rogue tbh

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seems sus

indigo ether
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yeah hes retrialing starting next week

blazing jewel
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bro eat my ass

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NOT HAVING A GOOD TIME TONIGHT

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ill link your feral log in here rn

sudden canyon
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10.2 ptr when

earnest remnant
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@blazing jewel kekdog

blazing jewel
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im putting this in my guild this

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that is gold

earnest remnant
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get the full picture from his stream

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i cropped something out

indigo ether
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3 bombs

blazing jewel
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@balmy condor where full image

earnest remnant
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just go on his stream

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its there

ruby birch
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assa too hard for me this tier i guess

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not a gigachad proccer

earnest remnant
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just dont play nelth trinket

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its that easy

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OCE is the way

ruby birch
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some of those bosses

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were with bomb

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bomb beacon

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its sophic too, i just dont know whats wrong w me this tier

earnest remnant
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like i did 157k on kazzara with 19% sophic

ruby birch
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as assa?

earnest remnant
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yeh

ruby birch
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wanna see my crits?

earnest remnant
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pretty much hit 50 on all of em

ruby birch
earnest remnant
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also my kill time is like 2:34

ruby birch
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3:37

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46% crit

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idk

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this was sophic

earnest remnant
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im enjoying assa in raid quite a bit

ruby birch
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i really just dont know what it is man, neither sub nor assa have changed in gameplay, yet it's so much harder to parse this tier

earnest remnant
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since we are in speed kill mode

ruby birch
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like i am actually having to struggle to even try to parse idk how

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and its not uptime problems or anything like that

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every time i do shit damage, crits are low and sophic is low

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its so sadge man

earnest remnant
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we kills bosses so fast, that most of the time the dmg is okay anyway

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ofc some bosses that isnt the case like Echo and Sark

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cuz we skip alot of the pad

ruby birch
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yeah i mean this that i posted in sub channel

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this was an assa kill on echo

inland dirge
ruby birch
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and again, my crits were stupidly low

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ig the echo crits werent that terrible, envenom was ~8% lower in crit

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but procs were just not happening, and when they did it was at terrible times

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like one of my sophics + trinket happened as i had to run out

grim tangle
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please buff sub rogue so the sub rogues go back to their channel

ruby birch
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i swear i just didnt have any of these problems last tier

ruby birch
grim tangle
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I'm crying?

ruby birch
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ive been playing assa along with sub the whole time

grim tangle
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buddy you been crying about crits for an hour

ruby birch
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discord provides timestamps

grim tangle
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crits are not why your parses aren't as good as you hope

ruby birch
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and you still miss it that hard

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lmao

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you must be actually clueless

grim tangle
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try to improve your play instead of just whining about your procs

ruby birch
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you're right dude

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not like i played assa last tier

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or anything

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"improve your play bro"

ruby birch
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it is literally the same talent setup

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which is why im complaining about the state

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good job

fierce tulip
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yellow is out of control

ruby birch
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the gameplay hasnt changed at all

fierce tulip
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this is more of a red thing

blazing jewel
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wait wait wait hold on

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@earnest remnant @balmy condor aint no way im getting roasted for sark

earnest remnant
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yeh u are

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L bozo

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full bissed

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getting rinsed

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by whispyr

blazing jewel
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???????????????????

earnest remnant
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xD

balmy condor
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get rinsed

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idiot

ruby birch
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that's 4 kyrian druid buffs

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0 dps gain for assa

spice surge
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Lmao

blazing jewel
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lil bro got prescience too

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HUHHH

spice surge
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Get smoked bozo, take the L

balmy condor
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gets removed tho who cares

blazing jewel
earnest remnant
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3% more sealfate chance

blazing jewel
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crit poison tick energy

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its the game changer

earnest remnant
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SURELY

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then why did you lose to me?

balmy condor
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holy cope

dawn haven
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Still doesn't help you beat Whispyr tho

balmy condor
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scana is overdosing

earnest remnant
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i didn't get prescience or pi

balmy condor
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someone call waaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance

earnest remnant
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where lilbro at with his glowy sark cape?

spice surge
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Sark cape actually dogshit on sark

blazing jewel
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im joining the secret second rogue disc

spice surge
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Procs downstairs

blazing jewel
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I will not stand for this toxic behavior

earnest remnant
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better than a normal cloak so ill take it

spice surge
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+10 cloak ilevel batchest

ruby birch
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wait a minute

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speaking of sark cloak

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thats not rng right?

balmy condor
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ofc it is

blazing jewel
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it is

ruby birch
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WHAT IS THIS UPTIME

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THIS ISNT REAL

blazing jewel
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yea its insane

dawn haven
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L

silk bane
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it has pretty low uptime tbh

ruby birch
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shit got SHADOWSTEP uptime

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is it supposed to be that low on echo

sonic schooner
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World of rng

ruby birch
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i thought sark cloak was just fixed every set time interval if someone take dmg bam

balmy condor
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it procs maybe twice a fight

ruby birch
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that shit's a proc too

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OF COURSE it is

blazing jewel
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@earnest remnant no troll this time why am I shitting the bed

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I need help

earnest remnant
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sark cloak is fairly consistent if u do the same shit every week

balmy condor
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pleb's fault

earnest remnant
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atleast from the logs i went over

earnest remnant
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git gud bozo

dawn haven
sonic schooner
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This tier I've decided to not pay attention to parses / details

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Was the best choice of my life kekdog

blazing jewel
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actually getting shit on

earnest remnant
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this is all i look at

blazing jewel
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we did have a buyer for almost all the fights ive been in

earnest remnant
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THE SPEEEEEEED

dawn haven
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SPEEEEEEEED

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THE FAST

ruby birch
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med % on sark 99

blazing jewel
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bro we almost had a 7min experiments in main raid

ruby birch
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go next

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you guys failed

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re-make guild

dawn haven
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Wait yeh wtf

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L bozo

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I'm talking about the 99 median on sark btw

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tragic moment

earnest remnant
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we had some int weeks

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unfort

sonic schooner
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So bad a pink number

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Actually should disband

dawn haven
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I love that zaqali is on youtube but no other boss is.

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According to wcl

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Padge strat

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7million evokers

earnest remnant
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it requires us to link the video

dawn haven
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ah, I'm brain damaged

earnest remnant
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according to tiktok we should get banned

dawn haven
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I didn't realise it had to actually be linked to wcl

earnest remnant
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so there is that

dawn haven
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huh

earnest remnant
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they are calling us exploiters

ruby birch
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tiktok?

dawn haven
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Bro you've been reading wowhead comment sections too much

ruby birch
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is colour getting into tiktok drama

earnest remnant
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someone made a tiktok about the assault kill

ruby birch
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ye how dare you guys read the range on the abilities

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and then

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use the abilities

earnest remnant
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some of those people really like to talk as they know why we summoned people

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one guy thought we buffed the entire raid with aug

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xD

ruby birch
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isnt it literally just to not waste the buff on wrong targets

earnest remnant
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yep

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it has a 100 yard range

ruby birch
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yeah

earnest remnant
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so you just make sure its only the people you want to have the buff thats within that

ruby birch
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so people just accept summ after the buffs

earnest remnant
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its quite simple really

ruby birch
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ye i mean its literally just reading the tooltip

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then minmaxing it

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lmao

gusty mirage
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why are there a bunch of blue names and sub icons talking about colour's assault strat

earnest remnant
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you just open this and read

gusty mirage
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in my assassination channel

earnest remnant
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excuse me

dawn haven
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Bro your name is orange

earnest remnant
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it was an assa rogue that did the kill buddy

ruby birch
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^

earnest remnant
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very relevant

gusty mirage
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not really

dawn haven
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Green names are more relevant than orange names in the Sin channel. Poison is green.

silk bane
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truuuue

dawn haven
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Dead people are blue.

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Poison kills people.

gusty mirage
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fantastic take

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except I can make people disappear forever

ruby birch
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think outlaw likes oranges

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outlaw = pirate

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pirates eat oranges

gilded oasis
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no they dont, thats why they get scurrvy

dawn haven
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all the outlaws have scurvy bro

earnest remnant
dawn haven
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they don't eat their oranges

ruby birch
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damn true

gusty mirage
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this man wanted to play gloomblade in shadowlands

ruby birch
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dont

gusty mirage
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his takes are as fried as his name

ruby birch
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remind me

earnest remnant
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preferably to the Maldives

ruby birch
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my name has cursed subtlety

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with lingering shadows

gusty mirage
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I hope they buff lingering

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fuck you guys

ruby birch
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also fuck you gloom was good in shadowlands

gusty mirage
ruby birch
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WM was just an insane talent

gusty mirage
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so it wasn't good

ruby birch
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gloom was literally our second best talent option

gusty mirage
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got it

earnest remnant
ruby birch
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in the whole true

ruby birch
gusty mirage
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doesn't matter how good it is numerically if it's inferior to its direct competition

earnest remnant
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true and based

gusty mirage
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if it's an either or

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idc if it's better than shadow focus

ruby birch
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fake news

earnest remnant
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if u aint first

ruby birch
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backstab is cringe

earnest remnant
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u last buddy

ruby birch
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and nobody likes backstab

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gloomblade is just a superior choice

earnest remnant
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2nd place is just the first loser

gilded oasis
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sorry I dont know a sin rogue move called gloomblade

ruby birch
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you know what

gilded oasis
ruby birch
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fuck you alchemists

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you'll never get kingsbane back

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NEVER

gilded oasis
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good

dawn haven
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Bro that hits home

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wtf

ruby birch
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and you know what

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i hope they fix exsang

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and buff it

gusty mirage
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I do too

earnest remnant
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just kill bosses in 30 sec

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then its good xD

gusty mirage
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doesn't twitch prime have like 18 splits to run?

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shouldn't you be busy on a tuesday night sir?

ruby birch
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what the

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18 splits

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we dont do any splits

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i was doing a sale just now

gilded oasis
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they dont need splits for m+

gusty mirage
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jps

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my friend

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you're morningwind's replacement

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so I just automatically hate you by default

ruby birch
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who the hell is that

dawn haven
gusty mirage
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sorry friend

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WOAH

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this mfer

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just who'd morning

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aint no way

gilded oasis
gusty mirage
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bro get back toyour cave

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get out of my channel

earnest remnant
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tbh

gusty mirage
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how dare you come in here and disrespect an assassination legend

earnest remnant
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ive got no clue who it is either

spice surge
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Damn oxi be on that zaza today. Lets go

ruby birch
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sry bro i dont keep up with the alchemists

gilded oasis
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I havent heard that name in so long

earnest remnant
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morningwind

gusty mirage
earnest remnant
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was that the m+ guy in bfa?

gusty mirage
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you're missing your weekly cry about augvoker meeting

ruby birch
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what the

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ive never cried about augvoker

earnest remnant
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i vaguely remember the name from twitch for some reason

gusty mirage
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bro don't act like sub doesn't spend all its time crying about augvoker

spice surge
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If only it was weekly

ruby birch
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im the opposition

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augvoker should stay

spice surge
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It is unfortunately Daily

ruby birch
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and they should make aug stronger

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and add more aug specs

gusty mirage
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they're upset at augvoker when fire mage exists

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imagine

dawn haven
ruby birch
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ive actually never seen sub talk about aug actually

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have i just missed all the convos about it

gusty mirage
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bro eleem messages me updates

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daily

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yes

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teach eleem

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pls

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he's losing his mind

earnest remnant
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lmfao

ruby birch
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ye im not as active in this disc as i used to be before

earnest remnant
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poor eleem

ruby birch
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life get in way, so i only come here after raids and when i dont loot nick of time

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or sometimes on the toilet

spice surge
dawn haven
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That's my home wtf

dawn haven
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How'd you get that photo

desert inlet
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free bread!!

gilded oasis
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god id love some bread rn

earnest remnant
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ahh shit the mashocist is here

gusty mirage
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explain how I managed 138.8 on the most scuffed kill ever

earnest remnant
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cranker

gusty mirage
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I was one of 4 people left

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lol

earnest remnant
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lol

desert inlet
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big execute uptime

gusty mirage
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portals are hard on week 3848383

dawn haven
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pumper

gusty mirage
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ig

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bro dead ass like 10 people died to portals

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we went from everyone alive to half the raid dead

earnest remnant
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you have me beat on nelth

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fak

gusty mirage
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just get 8 procs on call to suffering

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idk

earnest remnant
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cant

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i dont play that trinket

dawn haven
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Just crit more

ruby birch
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what a loser

dawn haven
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4head

ruby birch
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i play nelth trinket all the time

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i love that trinket

earnest remnant
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OCE is da way

ruby birch
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never seen it

balmy condor
dawn haven
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Bro no more vers 4 you

gilded oasis
ruby birch
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the zucc from cloak?

earnest remnant
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sark cloak

gilded oasis
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sark cloak

ruby birch
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you can get multi-zucced?

dawn haven
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Yep

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It's fun

ruby birch
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wtf

blazing jewel
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the sark cape stays on during sex

earnest remnant
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with your parses today

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u aint getting any

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buddy

indigo ether
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scana somehow 0 bomb

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im malding

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100 or retrial

blazing jewel
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boomkin talking

spice spire
# indigo ether im malding

Greetings and salutations mister pleb, upon log inspection of scana, I a CF (very prestigous title btw) recommend a retrial cuz he's poop

indigo ether
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thank you kind sir we will take your opinion into consideration when we bring scana's case before the jury

spice spire
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might I suggest two of your finest previous rogues, mister pleb. Vel and Rae to log inspect him

spice surge
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Perhaps limit his consumption of milf manor during raidtime to improve performance

blazing jewel
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@balmy condor got r3 pepehands

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couldnt catch you

balmy condor
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Skill issue

earnest remnant
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washed

blazing jewel
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idk why I sent pot early

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but I did

peak bobcat
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I was livid

spark scaffold
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grand trail
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pulled 450 dagger from vault can i have atleast heroic cloak ๐Ÿ˜„

prisma vortex
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what buff do you guys pick for chromatic essence trinket?

grand trail
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The one which sim highest for you it can be any as they sim 150 DPS apart

brave zenith
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hey yall im on mythic mag prog does ass feel good for it just killed skarn tonight

balmy condor
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Dunno, bout as good as anything else

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It does single target damage

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Mag is a single target boss

prisma vortex
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@grand trail damn you sim ~140k? can you show me your gear plz

balmy condor
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140 is all the sark gear, max ilvl tier, bomb dispenser, class trinket, and sockets

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Well, without sark cloak itโ€™s pretty difficult obv

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But just find the highest ilvl gear pieces in the raid and craft the rest at 447

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Good to go

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I got belt today

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So bit higher than that

prisma vortex
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damn you sim 139k as well wtf

balmy condor
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Yeh

prisma vortex
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im coming from sub gear so im only simming 130k which is kinda low imo

balmy condor
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Is all your shit vers

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And beacon?

runic hinge
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Iโ€™m at like 135 and I havenโ€™t killed a mythic boss

prisma vortex
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half half and with beacon

balmy condor
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Gotta replace the beacon

grand trail
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You need some haste and Vers into mastery, I sim 139 would be over 140 if get cloak or time dagger

balmy condor
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As long as you have mythic tier and full crafted 447โ€™s with sockets you should be able to 135 easily

prisma vortex
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135k easily? my sub rogue sims 134k

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ok thanks

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i am going to get some haste and get rid of beacon and see from there

balmy condor
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Yeh shouldnโ€™t be bad

tired night
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What are common mistakes on sark because I just did god awful and trouble figuring out where went wrong. I thought it was just hold CDs for phase transitions, dot the big add and repeat opener on boss. Then keep dots active on big add and proceed as normal

blazing jewel
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thats basically it

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your damage will go way up in p3 due to execute

gilded oasis
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and will look low in p2 due to the others who are padding.. I mean killing adds

blazing jewel
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can try to fish for poison bomb procs on the grouped adds but thats mostly pad

gilded oasis
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should be decently high at the end of p1 then I would look at boss damage after that, take out add pad

tired night
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We are also having to stop DPS so he doesnt phase right after adds are spawning in P2. More add damage might actually be nice lol

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Even boss damage im not that high. How much does 6min deathmark spike it?

quiet oar
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Dps Stop what

tired night
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I'm also not multidotting anything except the big add really and a random one in P3

gilded oasis
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thats fine

quiet oar
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You pushing him to 40%?

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Or is it 45%

tired night
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I think 45 but yeah we are phasing like riiight as the 3rd wave of adds spawn if we dont stop damage. And going down with all adds up is not a great time lol

gilded oasis
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push harder phase before they come out haha

tired night
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Ideally next week we can beat that but idk might be close

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That is the plan for next week

quiet oar
tired night
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How many adds is it optimal to garrote/rupture for boss damage? And do you still do it during the haste buff with deathmark or just ignore multi-dotting entirely?

gilded oasis
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just big add. can build your points on boss and tab to rupture and just be back on boss. DM doesn't matter you're gonna miss like 1 global ideally, 2 if you garrote

tired night
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Do you try to throw out 3 improved garrotes with each vanish in P2 and 3?

royal lantern
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first breath you just do a normal garrote+rupture on add, it dies cus everyone is hasted and the actually real dps classes do dmg

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2nd breath you do vanish->dluble garrote add->last stealth garrote on sark, out a rupture on add and then blast sark again

last breath you put normal rupture+garrote on add, if you need to focus it or can do boss dmg depeens on group dmg, i can ignore it in my group and just stay sark after the 2bleeds

tired night
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Is energy pooling around elaborate planning a thing? One thing I'm noticing looking at logs now is way less envenoms and wondering if that could be why? But with haste buffs Im not paying attention to it

blazing jewel
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dont track it

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ignore it

quiet oar
#

Dont Stress about the Best Logs.

tired night
#

I have way higher reprimand uptime than the handufl of similar kill times I've looked at, wondering if thats part of it. From trying to make sure planning doesn't drop

#

And not always just sending if I land on one

gilded oasis
#

dont force trying to get your ER points either, you should naturally land on them just doing your rotation then use when you do. No use trying to game it. and yeah dont really need to look at Elaborate planning its just there

#

sometimes you get lucky and land on all charged points in a row and sometimes it takes longer

tired night
#

See im trying to play around planning to max uptime so if I land on one but energy is highish and I can still use another mut for example. Idk if thats ultimately costing me finishers tho

gilded oasis
#

don't. if you land on one, send it, its a full CP finisher

short forge
#

guys ... I have a problem ... no matter how I sim my main and off hand, the Nick of time dagger seems to be better than any other options and its ilvl is only 441
I'm playing craftet 447 dagger in my main hand and nick of time 441 as my off hand - the only upgrade I'd get is when I get sark myth dagger on ilvl 450 as my main hand..
is the nick of time dagger really that freaking strong!?!?!?

gilded oasis
#

yes, read pins

short forge
gilded oasis
#

441 nick of time is bis OH right now

short forge
#

gotcha :))

gilded oasis
#

๐Ÿ™‚ grats on your dagger

short forge
#

i think i got it the very first time in went into the mega dungeon ^^

gilded oasis
#

lucky

royal lantern
#

so a offhand with some kind of dmg proc is more or less always the strongest one avaible

tired night
#

im going crazy looking at this log of this Rashok log with an identical kill time, near identical casts, resource gain and waste, and identical damage breakdown but im 10k behind. Finally found what I'm doing wrong, I just need to literally double my amount of sophic devotion procs

#

Just need to get 9 in 5:20 instead of 4. Skill issue

ornate zodiac
tired night
#

Yes

ornate zodiac
#

ahhh

tired night
#

I honestly did not realize it could swing that much lol. That is full 1:15 more uptime on a potion's worth of stat my god

ornate zodiac
#

cucked

tired night
#

Im sitting here like a conspiracy theorist because we have damn near identical gear too so idk how tf all his stuff was hitting just a liiiitle harder

#

Turns out I just need to get gooder at buffing myself

royal lantern
#

like, be lucky with weapon enchants+ echo trinket uptime and you are high

earnest remnant
#

only had 19% sophic on my banger kazzara

ornate zodiac
#

uptime during CDs = giga

earnest remnant
#

not gonna talk about it being a 2:34 kill timer

royal lantern
#

lmao

#

pinged the wrong guy

earnest remnant
#

around 20-22%

royal lantern
#

raccon man

earnest remnant
#

Assault has 0% uptime on sophic

#

didn't need it tho

balmy condor
#

I was at 23-24% on sophic and class trinket for rank 1 sark

peak lake
#

More than uptime, it's the alignment on cooldowns that counts, I'd rather have 15% uptime on my DMs than 25 on my off-peak phases ๐Ÿ˜„

earnest remnant
#

cooldowns on cooldown

tired night
#

So I have learned is that sitting at 6+ CP and not using a finisher until elaborate planning is at 1s is unnecessary, and that I need to proc sophic more

earnest remnant
#

less thinking more button smashing

#

garrote goes brrrrt

tired night
#

I'm a returning player so energy pooling is just a habit I just assumed didn't go away. Just that planning replaced envenom. Will press more button next time

lethal wadi
#

Guys one question im lost, does anybody know which channel i should looking for best beacon time use? in Sin and sub

#

i Searched but im not good on discord

clever sapphire
#

sub after your first shadowstrike

lethal wadi
# clever sapphire sin after your ER cast

Emm Thanks man!
You mean Garrote into SnD Into ER into Rapture then Deathmark and beacon? or no rapture & deathmark just ER and beacon after that rapture and deathmark?

royal lantern
#

after that use on CD, never during DM

clever sapphire
#

what the fox said

#

oh wait if you follow rota you dont er on opener

clever sapphire
lethal wadi
#

you have to paint

#

talented

clever sapphire
#

thats all i needed to hear, swapping away from playing rogue and becoming a painter

#

gonna paint the new monalisa

#

with a pumpkinhead and bonespikes

muted aspen
#

Hey, guys!
Would you please help me figure out how to make simcraft run with versa flask instead of crit one?
And also, how can I tell simc to use another weapon rune?

muted aspen
#

Thank you! :)

vestal wren
#

the crit flask is stronger

#

vers is a good baseline tho

gusty mirage
vestal wren
#

^ i just wait for exsang to get a rework to be a great ability in 10.2

spiral pasture
#

make it something a cool passive like autos can advance your dots

gusty mirage
#

I have no trust in any other part of the wow team, but I believe in that man

#

he's done right by us the entire time

grand trail
#

Got Sark dagger oxi, seems like you got someone else dagger

night delta
gusty mirage
#

we rolled one off for tmog

#

lol

grand trail
#

Nice

gray horizon
#

Finally onto Sark prog! Think I'm going to switch back to the one true rogue spec. How's sin feel on the fight?

snow kindle
#

Rogue easily the most useless spec on sark you just fill whatever you raid team needs

royal lantern
#

450 beacon in vault

#

man passing 450 items hurts

gray horizon
sour elm
#

Its a tough fight for the rogue bois

pure moth
#

Still doable

tulip kernel
#

have we heard anything about rogue rework?

#

nice that sounds great

#

really hope assass has a moment in the spotlight next tier

#

tired of sub fr fr

gusty mirage
#

then play assassination

vestal wren
#

^ all 3 specs are perfectly fine choices in raiding

balmy condor
quiet oar
#

I love it

pine ore
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
past forum
#

Playing with sepsis in pve to turbo extend imp garrote is really fun. The last time I played sepsis assa was with the sofi tier set in pvp, where you just dotted, kidney shiv, vendetta, and selfie cammed while your target melted. Was fun maybe 3 times but after that it got old

royal lantern
#

smh my head

proven jasper
#

Imagine not playing what you love and enjoy pepe_chad

nimble tartan
#

me playin my sexy blood elf when i can gain 500 dps bein tuaren

royal lantern
#

imagine

#

looking at wow modles

#

and thinking "sexy"

#

you guys need some grass asap

subtle kiln
nimble tartan
#

bro this channel is full of red names flirting and sexting in public

#

yall cant tell me nothin

subtle kiln
nimble tartan
#

disgustin!!

subtle kiln
royal lantern
spice spire
nimble tartan
loud sparrow
#

Is there were I come to shit talk scana

spice surge
#

Feel free to shit talk scana in any channel

quiet oar
#

@blazing jewel Im here to shittalk you

spice spire
#

You need permission from his owner first, Pleb

#

Also that mf changed his name again

loud sparrow
#

Whatโ€™s the problem with scanas logs? I know she has been working hard to improve them

#

She made us remove her from doing bombs this week ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

spice spire
#

She ICANT

quiet oar
#

Oxi is flirting with Europeans to move here

spice spire
#

Wait until he sees the threads ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

spice surge
#

You though the "log" in log review referred to warcraftlogs? Cute

royal lantern
#

finding work as a laywer in other countrys is.........fun

spice spire
royal lantern
#

iirc its "do international law, no other real options" and thats it

spice surge
#

๐Ÿ† reveiw

royal lantern
spice spire
#

The hog review

runic hinge
spice surge
#

We are in dire need of 10.2 ptr

gusty mirage
#

legit question

#

why do europeans use a comma instead of a period for decimals?

#

I wanna learn something today

main vessel
spice spire
#

?

#

Iโ€™d never

spice surge
main vessel
spice spire
#

Now thatโ€™s something I can stand behind ๐Ÿซก

main vessel
spice spire
spice surge
#

Wikipedia says it used to big a big longer line but when it was typeset some countries chose a comma and some chose a period, depending on how frequent the symbols were used for other things

#

So obviously england couldnt be like the french

#

The way we butcher animals and how large the parts are/what theyre named is also different depending on whetheryou use the french or the english one

deft flicker
#

We donโ€™t use the โ€œmark every 3rd digitโ€ thing almost ever either

royal lantern
#

5 sark kills and 0 daggers

grand trail
#

i got mine from vault today

#

dagger happy

woeful meteor
#

@blazing jewel whats your best sark dmg on bomb duty?

past forum
#

I didn't play sin very much if at all in S1. Was DTB always superior or did something happen to make it gap KB so much?

royal lantern
#

they where roughly equal at launch

#

then they put DtB and KB on the same talent slot

#

and it died a painfull death

past forum
#

ohhhh it wasn't a choice node before, got it

royal lantern
#

ye, KB was in place of the BEST TALENT EVER

#

Arterial presicion

#

who the hell gave that shit green light, honestly man

runic hinge
#

I donโ€™t think ap is a bad talent but maybe it shouldnโ€™t be a capstone

#

I like the idea of aoe shiv and shiv increasing bleed damage but it just doesnโ€™t compete

past forum
#

it's in a really weird spot for being an aoe/cleave spell

deft flicker
past forum
#

being behind zoldyk, blindside, and 2 mutilate talents feels weird for an aoe spell

runic hinge
#

Iโ€™m hoping that ct gets moved to be accessible with very few talent points like blade flurry and bp and ap gets moved into that spot. Or something like that

deft flicker
royal lantern
#

bonespike: you cast mutilate less often

#

where is it? behind a mutilate amp

#

(and fuck those SL shit abilitys, nuke all of them from all classes)

cunning dust
#

leave my bone spike alone

#

glad we had it back from SL

spice spire
#

I had to double check the chat

cunning dust
#

best shit for the spec from that xp

versed mica
#

SL abilities are fine, the only rogue one that doesn't do anything to change rogue gameplay is flag

#

The other ones are good

desert inlet
#

Flag was my favorite :)

versed mica
#

I do wish they changed their aesthetic to regular rogue abilities tho

#

Feels weird

cunning dust
#

flag is good for bursting

#

doesnt matches the spec, that is it

versed mica
#

Well yeah, but it does nothing to change rogue rotation

#

You just press it on cd while at full combo points

#

Line it up with your big abilities

#

It did sort of change things with the covenant leggo tho

#

Bc more stacks = more CDR

peak bobcat
#

10.2 our tree is going to be insane guys

#

Rogue will be fotm and assassination will be the coolest and most fun spec in the game

#

( it already is )

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
#

Terros - 5min

#

magmorax 5min 10s

royal lantern
# gusty mirage do you though

do i now get some big math where the energy you save from bonespike results in the roughly same amount of mutilate casts, and it doesnt really matter

gusty mirage
#

nah I don't bother with math

#

that's whispyr's job

peak bobcat
#

based

gusty mirage
#

I'm here to shit post and chat with the homies

royal lantern
#

giga based

gusty mirage
#

it costs you a few mutilates for sure

gusty mirage
#

and I think the lethal dose constant dot helps make up the dif

#

ya know

cunning dust
#

tbh just wanna vendetta back

gusty mirage
#

no you don't

royal lantern
#

thats a take

#

for sure

gusty mirage
#

vendetta is worse than deathmark in every single way

royal lantern
#

a bad one, but a take

desert inlet
#

Give me my off gcd button back

gusty mirage
#

but it helps with sepsis

royal lantern
#

good thing vendetta was on the gcd for the last 5+ years now

cunning dust
#

i do

#

fuck deathmark

#

dont gaslight me

royal lantern
#

yeha sure

gusty mirage
#

you're gas lightning yourself thinking vendetta was any good

#

and I'm for it

final star
#

deathmark is also shit

cunning dust
#

im not, u were messing all my fkn tree since u wanted to tryhard w sims

gusty mirage
cunning dust
#

starting w exsang

royal lantern
#

generic dmg amp on a 2min cd that you pressed on cd

is better then a more specific dmg amp that interacts with your kit atleast somewhat on a 2min cd you press on cd

gusty mirage
#

shadowblades is absolutely dogshit

final star
#

100%

#

but that doesn't diminish that deathmark is also shit

royal lantern
#

3min shadowblades

gusty mirage
#

deathmark isn't shit though

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

that's the difference

cunning dust
#

it is

gusty mirage
#

whether or not you think it is

#

does not make it shit

desert inlet
#

idk the only diff I feel is the gcd

final star
#

deathmark is less piss

gusty mirage
#

numerically it's better than vendetta

desert inlet
#

so it's worse

gusty mirage
#

in every single way

royal lantern
final star
#

but nonetheless piss

royal lantern
#

like bruh, you talk about legion shit here

final star
#

give rogues a proper cd blizz

royal lantern
#

vendetta off the gcd was a time where Guy was not even an adult

final star
royal lantern
#

thats how long its not that way

gusty mirage
royal lantern
grim tangle
#

they literally removed it from the gcd at the end of SL

runic hinge
#

Wish we could get a cd that was more of a self buff than a single target debuff. Maybe weโ€™d be too generic then tho

desert inlet
earnest remnant
gusty mirage
#

I love how sub rogues were crying up a fucking storm when assassination got IC and Deathmark

#

and now we have sub rogues rolling it

#

"ITS PISS"

#

wild

desert inlet
#

true animation for deathmark is sick

proven jasper
#

I love DM clowning

earnest remnant
#

DM is nice actually feels like a cd

desert inlet
#

it's just rampage but rampage animation is sick

runic hinge
#

Ic should also apply death mark to all those targets

final star
#

I never cried about anything assa got

runic hinge
#

Boom. Fixed our aoe

gusty mirage
proven jasper
gusty mirage
#

Push and I actually got into an argument

#

during beta

#

like a legit heated argument

cunning dust
gusty mirage
#

over all the shiny toys assassination got and how sub got "shit"

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

always

final star
#

exsang omeg

gusty mirage
#

it's old man vibes ya know

cunning dust
#

i rather prefer to have a flat dmg increase

#

instead

gusty mirage
#

I mean

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

it is a flat damage increase

#

it duplicates your bleeds and poisons

cunning dust
gusty mirage
#

it's literally a 100% increase

royal lantern
#

lol

#

pvp

cunning dust
#

we are the reason u are famous

#

and you are the reason

#

we got nerfed hard

earnest remnant
cunning dust
#

cuz u are messing all our stuff

royal lantern
#

pvp player

#

that shit explains everything

cunning dust
#

fake rog

royal lantern
#

i mean, yeha sure

#

pvp it knda sucks when dwarfs can dispell it i gues

#

but who cares about the minigame mode

gusty mirage
royal lantern
#

pet battles are more serious endgame kekman

final star
#

the 30 people who play it

cunning dust
royal lantern
#

(pet battles are really fucking deep btw, shit is insane)

cunning dust
#

then ask to have wound poison improves removed

gusty mirage
#

They missed an opportunity giving PvP its own talent tree

cunning dust
#

instead messing the tress

#

with ur opinions

desert inlet
#

why play wow pokemon when I have real pokemon

gusty mirage
#

why am I being tagged in your rant with someone else

desert inlet
#

but fr vendetta was off gcd in shadowlands ur crazy

earnest remnant
#

no

#

lol

cunning dust
#

because ur sims makes us being nerfed

#

maybe

final star
#

no it wasn't

proven jasper
earnest remnant
#

it was on the gcd bud

gusty mirage
#

my sims?

cunning dust
#

im getting all the crap cuz u wanted 100 points in sims

#

im tired of this

#

ngl

final star
#

quit

#

cya

cunning dust
#

i won't

gusty mirage
#

let's rewind here

earnest remnant
#

lol

final star
#

then stop typing words

cunning dust
#

im just camping you in the world quests

gusty mirage
#

it's apparently my fault because of my sims that the wow team is ruining the talent tree for pvpers

final star
gusty mirage
#

with all those sims that I run and the spreadsheets that I make

earnest remnant
#

4sure assa got nerfed in pvp because it was to good in pve content

cunning dust
#

the fault

final star
#

I DM realz every sim I do

cunning dust
#

is because you wanted to remove stuff

gusty mirage
#

TIL I'm whispyr and/or fuu

final star
#

to get us nerfed in pvp

cunning dust
#

favouring pve

gusty mirage
#

I wanted to remove stuff?

final star
#

thank god

cunning dust
#

messing with another branches

#

u wants aoe in assa right?

earnest remnant
#

gonna suggest realz to make rogue unplayable in pvp

final star
#

you are an incoherent mess stop typing

cunning dust
#

i won't

gusty mirage
#

where did I want to remove stuff

#

considering you decided to tag me and include me in your little rant

earnest remnant
#

if u think we have any pull as to what gets changed

#

LOL

cunning dust
#

else i won't

subtle kiln
gusty mirage
#

you tagged me because I replied to your comment that it's the pvp balance team

#

not me

cunning dust
#

let me see again

gusty mirage
#

got it

#

you're for sure not totally unhinged

desert inlet
#

ok well either vendetta or shiv was off gcd

#

but I thought it was vendetta

subtle kiln
#

unhinged in here. woah.

proven jasper
#

Bro is fed up ๐Ÿ’ฏ

cunning dust
#

nah you just kept me chatting for deathmark

gusty mirage
proven jasper
#

deathmark is cool ๐Ÿ‘

gusty mirage
#

it was on the gcd for the entirety of bfa

desert inlet
#

was it just like a half global or something

subtle kiln
#

bring back vendetta base sitting in stealth

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

and no one had a problem with it

cunning dust
#

if you wanna me leaving this place

desert inlet
#

I played hunter in bfa oxi!!

cunning dust
#

then let me talk w realz

#

cuz im sure

proven jasper
#

Alright bro

#

Call him up

subtle kiln
#

lol

cunning dust
#

he is not getting into the pvp thread

#

cuz he is priorizing this

subtle kiln
#

wow forums

gusty mirage
#

you know what he is/isn't prioritizing?

subtle kiln
#

pvp balance team

final star
#

LOL

royal lantern
# desert inlet was it just like a half global or something

no, a full normaly gcd

they wanted to go away from "use everything at once" macros going into BfA, so they put all major CD's into the GCD, vendetta included

deathmark is on the gcd yeha, but it also does dmg when you use it and is not "point at the enemy and do nothing else" like vendetta was

desert inlet
#

I didn't know about bfa mb

gusty mirage
#

guys realz doesn't go into pvp

#

you heard it here first

subtle kiln
gusty mirage
#

crazy how a simple search would prevent all of this

#

instead of you walking in here, and trying to fight with people cause you're angy assassination sucks in pvp

subtle kiln
#

iโ€™m angry pvp sucks

runic hinge
#

(Itโ€™s not even that bad)

subtle kiln
#

can we kiss?

gusty mirage
#

and I'll give you the same response I give people who are upset assassination is bad at m+, push N, click sub, click activate

#

problem solved

cunning dust
#

from when

#

was that arrival?

gusty mirage
#

doesn't matter from when

#

you said he doesn't go in there

cunning dust
#

it mattrs

gusty mirage
#

not really no

cunning dust
#

it is

gusty mirage
#

YOU made an absolute statement

#

that he never goes in there

proven jasper
#

get help please

gusty mirage
#

and that was a false statement

cunning dust
#

lemme see

gusty mirage
#

you claim he doesn't care about pvp

#

yet there's tons of pvp centric talents in both the class and spec tree

subtle kiln
#

the dude literally comes in here on his free time when not working randomly looking at all the spec and pvp shit for rogue and dh. stop being an entitled dipshit.

gusty mirage
#

the only benefit vendetta had over deathmark in pvp

#

is you could see people who went into stealth

cunning dust
#

nothing

gusty mirage
#

both could be bopped off

cunning dust
#

about this last 2 months

#

he arrived last time in beta

#

ofc i still recall

#

cuz i asked him to bring sbs back

subtle kiln
#

when wil pvp enjoyers realize blizzard likely gives less of a shit about them than pet battles and naxx transmits.

gusty mirage
#

so he does go into pvp then

#

got it

proven jasper
cunning dust
#

how can i be entilted just for asking to pay attention to pvp

#

cuz u are getting all the spotlight?

subtle kiln
#

taylor swift gets the spotlight

gusty mirage
#

idk why that's shocking to you considering that pve is the majority of the game

subtle kiln
#

we get the refrigerator light

cunning dust
#

because it is?

final star
#

is this guy british

#

cos he's dumb as hell

cunning dust
#

same as u

proven jasper
#

refrigerator? Id say were more like the freezer

cunning dust
#

for being so narrowed

#

and wanting baking all dmg in shadow dance

proven jasper
#

what

subtle kiln
cunning dust
#

making it awful for tuning