assassination

[subtle tundra]

🐱

[sudden canyon]

it doesnt make me feel better.

[balmy condor]

Then don’t do it idk

[sudden canyon]

is tea something that is always only used when u get the full 100 energy. Mastery not worth lining it up with anything?

[gilded oasis]

I'd take some poison tea rn

in minecraft

[balmy condor]

In opener when you’re capped on 3 charges you send one with Deathmark because you can and might as well

Otherwise 100 energy

You can technically try and starve yourself on purpose when a shiv is coming and then get the 100 energy and the mastery together and claim superiority

But it’s usually pretty difficult to line those up consistently

Especially with mechanics and such

So if you see an opportunity snag 100 energy

You usually just grab it

[sharp falcon]

now i want tea

[balmy condor]

I’m more of a Red Bull guy

[gilded oasis]

you would be

[balmy condor]

Zero sugar though obviously

Gotta be healthy

[burnt latch]

Ull get 2x daggers when it does bless u, one with leech too dontnworry

[deft flicker]

Tea is good

[sharp falcon]

i cant really do energy drinks anymore, though coffee is consumed almost daily in the morning

yes tea is also good, but it's too late for caffeine, instead there is only suffering =*(

[deft flicker]

I never was a coffee person. No idea why, just don’t like it

[balmy condor]

Tea tastes like dirt
Coffee tastes like dirt
Energy drink taste like battery acid

Battery acid > dirt

My thought process on the matter

[balmy condor]

Now that’s a job for an honest god fearing American, amen

Also no shot Tennessee has mountains right

Ain’t Tennessee still flatland

Where’s my Tennessean

[bronze pike]

realz saw tooples sin fix :(

but not mine

mod abuse

[balmy condor]

@spice spire mountain check

[signal badger]

petition to add this emote

[deft flicker]

No clue, not an amogus

[balmy condor]

Dm it to me I’ll add when I get back to a desktop after my flight lands

[real lion]

the appalachian moutains?

[balmy condor]

Now you’re just making up words

Too many A’s in that one

[signal badger]

❤️

[balmy condor]

Sorry I don’t believe in your geographical gerrymandering sir

If you shrunk the earth down to the size of a cue ball, it would one of the smoothest objects in existence

You’re telling me mountains are real after hearing that?

No shot

[deft flicker]

Yes

[real lion]

that's impossible that implies it's smoother than your brain sir

[deft flicker]

Mountains are real, their sweat is all over the shops

[balmy condor]

I have you know I have proof that my brain has a deep crevice

Observe

[real lion]

[deft flicker]

Just let Tennesseeans have jobs okay

[balmy condor]

They all have jobs being the only ten-i-see

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/olof-lmao-gif-18649922

wait

what fkin language is that

i'm keepin it

[balmy condor]

Swedish maybe

[gusty mirage]

keep this

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

Why’s it so sideways

[drifting cloud]

[keen spruce]

idk tight shorts

[deft flicker]

Your this is safe, Oxi

[spice spire]

Appalachian mountains idiot

[balmy condor]

Y’all keep saying that

But I’m telling you

[spice spire]

Bruh

[balmy condor]

No shot

[spice spire]

There’s no shots

[balmy condor]

Too many A’s

[spice spire]

The great smoky mountains

Smoky the fucking bear man

[balmy condor]

Fictional character?

[spice spire]

Yeah

Just like tennessee the state

Get woke

[balmy condor]

Tennessee was just an anime all along

I knew it was too good to be real

Like Japan

[marble hemlock]

Or women

[deft flicker]

These do exist

[marble hemlock]

Can't anybody tell me these things are real

[deft flicker]

You were likely raised by one

[spice spire]

ain't no way you just said Tennessee was too good to be real

[keen spruce]

people thinking Tennessee was a real place

[balmy condor]

Alongside the small town of Uzgen, Kyrgyzstan

[marble hemlock]

Is Tennessee the Belgium of the USA? We all pretend it exists even though it doesn't?

[spice spire]

yes man

[keen spruce]

george very friendly carryin pepo around

[marble hemlock]

Was about to say, that looks like George

[spice spire]

george is mad because I raided tonight

[deft flicker]

Belgium was made as a neutral ground for Brits and Germans to sort out their stuff

[balmy condor]

Tennessee is like the middle of Germany, like you know there’s Mannheim, and you know there’s Frankfurt, and you know there’s Köln, but there’s just a bunch of stuff between those places that one can only assume haven’t been rendered yet

[gilded oasis]

@spice spire got any of those 447 noose around?

[spice spire]

I'm on zskarn

so yeah

[gilded oasis]

Oof

[marble hemlock]

What did you raid? The fridge with a block of tofu?

[marble hemlock]

Fair. Or Bielefeld.

[keen spruce]

does george not raid tuesdays?

https://tenor.com/view/doge-type-typing-dogecoin-gif-22440104

[spice spire]

no he doesn't

[balmy condor]

Bielefeld only exists in a quantum state where someone has to imagine its existence in order for it to be real

[deft flicker]

Which I already do

[balmy condor]

The moment no one thinks about Bielefeld it disappears

[deft flicker]

You’re safe to move in

[marble hemlock]

It's one of those places people say exists, but you've never met anyone who's been there and can provide proof

[balmy condor]

I’m sure they have a museum or something

[frozen iris]

Is there something weird going on with logs. Says everybodys parses for today werew 100%?

[spice spire]

There was a partition today

It’ll adjust in the morning when logs are “set”

[frozen iris]

Ah okay thanks

[bronze pike]

Mine said 0 :(

[frozen iris]

Yeah I had one like that as well. I was like wtf.

[jade abyss]

🤣

[jade abyss]

I like bielefeld nice place in my opinion :x

[tired night]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gN9JSjGhx7BLnXYix6bc4v Even with like major recrafts and stuff I still cannot get even close to my sub or outlaw sim damage. Is there some major piece of gear that starts to creep it over?

[royal lantern]

no

assa just sucks lol

[frigid musk]

Is it normal that i lose like 40k ST if i spec into the m+ Build ?

[deft flicker]

Yes

[clever sapphire]

I dont know the exact numbers, but ye you lose a shit ton of ST dmg

[frigid musk]

crazy

[cunning vine]

Is this opener still accurate? just noticed on logs that some rogues does garrot>rupture>tea>sepsis>snd>er>shiv>dearthmark and pump very hard

[clever sapphire]

Yap

With yap i mean its accurate

You can er instead of mutilating to 5cp

[quartz lance]

Sim damage is one thing. How do you feel it is when you're actually playing? I find Assa a bit more consistent when in raid because of the fact that I can play around potential downtime a bit easier

[blazing jewel]

I think the vast majority go garrote snd er rupture sepsis dm shiv

[cunning vine]

thx, ill just stick with guide, was just wondering

[boreal valley]

I got my mythic beacon

[royal lantern]

gz

[cerulean nest]

anyone else's guild losing their minds over sark cloak wearers before we've even pulled the boss in question?

[limber lion]

Wtf

Link me one log that does this

Opener logic is very minimal but that is just so demonic and bad

[quick pumice]

My guild just made half the raiders swap to sporecloak on nelth after 1 raid night

[gusty mirage]

whaduhek

[quick pumice]

People were just dropping to molten heart dots.

Idk, I kept running sark cape and I had no issues surviving. But that's prob just cause this class is immortal

[gusty mirage]

giving half the raid sporecloaks is a lot of damage

idk if that's the play tbh

it's still a relatively tight dps check

[quick pumice]

But on our second night with like half the raid on sporecloak we managed to reach p3. So I guess it's working 🤷

No one dies to ambient dmg anymore, just to brain lag

[gusty mirage]

yeah sporecloak is goated for survivability

and assuming everyone's doing decent damage it shouldn't be much of an issue

augvoker should cover most of that loss by itself

[quick pumice]

Yea, a lot of people were complaining after last week when they were told to change. But after last night I don't think anyone cares anymore. The dps loss was barely noticeable but the survivability was huge

[gusty mirage]

the sporecloaks will make p1 sark significantly less miserable for your healers as well

because even the nerfed version is a stupid amount of damage going out

[quick pumice]

I'm not even gonna think about sark until nelth is dead

I think im the only person in my raid that is actually having fun progging nelth lul

[agile osprey]

Man if they try and make me take off my Sark cloak....

[spice surge]

Did they even nerf p1 damage? I thought it was only the "go down dot" they nerfed

Or well, i guess you have it at the end for a little bit

[gusty mirage]

I wanna say they nerfed the fire dot that periodically goes out

]

[spice surge]

Ah ye mb

Was it nerfed by 33% like oblivion

Or just 10% like they said

[gusty mirage]

that one was just 10%

[ebon notch]

Wasn't it bugged when they nerfed it

And it ended up being 33%

[gusty mirage]

no

that's oblivion

[ebon notch]

Oh he said like oblivion

I misread

[gusty mirage]

you silly beach

[ebon notch]

Wtf

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

No that’s @thorny pond

[thorny pond]

yo

Sin meta yet?

[spice spire]

Haha muted

[thorny pond]

😦

[vestal wren]

10.2 maybe

[thorny pond]

Good enough for me. We gearing

[spice surge]

Getting my full expidient corruption setup ready for 10.2

[ebon notch]

Yo sin meta yet?

[spice spire]

@midnight mist

Glhf

[tired night]

So if it sims so much lower why does assassin seem to perform pretty on par with sub on a lot of fights?

[ebon notch]

Wtf

[midnight mist]

Yo sin meta yet?

[gusty mirage]

it's fine

if you get PI on cd

you almost do as much damage as the worst dps

[spice spire]

Ii hope every spec but outlaw gets touched and you’re stuck with KiR for another tier

[midnight mist]

Wtf

[spice spire]

[midnight mist]

Toxic cf

[gusty mirage]

bro

@spice spire why are you bullying zac now

first solo and now zac???

[spice spire]

My mastery is through the roof

[gusty mirage]

this is unacceptable

[spice spire]

Keep it up and guy’s next

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

but solo and zac are off limits to bullying

that's my line in the sand

and I will ban a mfer

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nTgEG8rLR5TpdWCaDbo7EV

finally got the 130k

[sweet dawn]

Another "sims tell me to go haste/mastery gems" enjoyer

[royal lantern]

they tell me that cus i just crafted the neck

and cba doing a sim with all gems replaced

@balmy condor i send a guildmate that sim(spriest player) and his first reaction was "130k with that gear?? is the apl broken for rogue?? no way its that low"

[tired night]

So if sin sims so much lower than sub and outlaw why does it seems to be performing decently well compared or sub on ST?

[spice surge]

Idk what you are talking about

It sims a couple of thousands under sub and generally perform roughly the same

Worth keeping in mind that whenever somebody in the wow community calls something "awful", "dogshit" or "terrible", its usually like 5% worse

[royal lantern]

5%?

you mean 2% lol

[solid mica]

Yeah wdym, all rogue specs perform equally as dogshit

[vestal wren]

send him a outlaw sim

[nova saddle]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[cerulean nest]

do you just drop the toxic patch if you run sporecloak?

[boreal junco]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[spice spire]

Yes, what else would you drop?

[cerulean nest]

thanks!

lol

[spice spire]

Also that sounds like a smart ass response but I promise that isn’t the intention

[wary ice]

Keep the patch lose the shoes

[spice spire]

[trim fern]

Hi all, it's been awhile since I played WoW so this might be a silly question, but is it just me or do Rogues just randomly exit stealth in PvP?

[wary ice]

#pvp might have more dedicated info if there's bugs or stuff like that but my guess is it's just dots or something ripping you out of it

[trim fern]

Thanks, i'll try that channel.

[jovial verge]

Finally got my bomb

praise be

Its recommened to drop beacon with bomb to make it less hassle right?

[wary ice]

I thibk you just beacon 20s after u bomb tbh

[gusty mirage]

nah just do this opener:
gar > snd > ER > Rupture > Beacon > rest of the rotation

[rain oyster]

What about the cursed beacon into vanish technique on pull 🌝

[pure moth]

!ambush

[prisma monolith]

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
This should be seen as a "lazy" option, and is not recommended. It can be hard to control and requires a third-party macro addon to expand the games base functionality. We recommend ALWAYS keybinding ambush (either with a modifier, or an entirely different key)
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

[tired night]

You don't wanna use that macro with sepsis

[jovial verge]

business as usual then

that's good - I was feeling sentimental about letting it go after all this time

[gilded oasis]

just never loot a beacon, its that easy guys

[spice spire]

Real

[gilded oasis]

do I just grieftorch in place of beacon tho?

sure do

[spice spire]

I didn’t get that either

[gilded oasis]

I got pretty lucky with that one and boon

[spice spire]

And boon

Bis m+ trinket still

[gilded oasis]

oh dang I should pull mine out

I cant imagine using that as another class. I only use it on rogue cause cloak evasion and step can save me from most things lol

our monk used to use it and just die 2 seconds later

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

I vendored mine to end temptation

[spice spire]

Bless

[royal lantern]

out of context thats a weird one, ngl

[gilded oasis]

I never vendor anything, you might need it in 3 expacs

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

I never rolled need on the boon btw

I was voluntold I'm getting it

[spice spire]

Hoarder

[gusty mirage]

I rolled tmog for the meme

and they gave it to me

[royal lantern]

we got 3x the echo sword on mythic

on the kill this evening

[gusty mirage]

love that for you

[gilded oasis]

better than being voluntold to do bombs on p3 sark

[gilded oasis]

with the way theyre making old things relevant I gotta

you should see my bank

[gray crest]

fellow p3 bomb doer

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I mean

[spice spire]

I’m horrified and don’t want to

[gusty mirage]

not like rogue is useful on sark

apply your atrophic and get carried

[gray crest]

we have 2 rogues on sark

[spice spire]

Aren’t you literally on a spec that doesn’t like haste?

[gray crest]

and they wont drop one of us (me)

[spice spire]

2 rogues is wild

[gilded oasis]

I feel useful #3 on boss dam

[spice spire]

That’s like sark on mega hard mode

[gilded oasis]

we have 2 rogues

[gusty mirage]

are your warlocks and uhdk afk?

[gray crest]

our comp was kinda cursed tbh

[gilded oasis]

No uhdk, one warlock cant stay alive for more than 45 seconds

[gusty mirage]

no uhdk???

[gilded oasis]

no

[gilded oasis]

our dk went lock

[gusty mirage]

[gilded oasis]

our ele sham (sitting here) is now going resto so the pres voker can go aug.. 200 pulls deep

[royal lantern]

now have the 450 BiS 2hand weapon in my bag so i can link it to random paladins in dungeons

and no 450 dagger

[gusty mirage]

I've killed sark 5 times

no dagger

4 full mythic vaults

no dagger

I've seen 3 sark cloaks and 2 beacons

⭐

[royal lantern]

classic

[gusty mirage]

I've gotten the belt, the gloves, the cloak

[royal lantern]

and the 1 night you are not in for a kill

3 daggers

[gusty mirage]

yep

[frozen iris]

Is that from the megadungeon?

Nvm disregard im dumb

[fresh mist]

does anyone have a plater profile that makes it easy to see which mobs have garrote, rupture, and crimson tempest on them?

[dark token]

same ive killed sark 3 times and only looted dagger, beacon, tier, cloak, belt, and gloves

still missign 2nd dagger

[gusty mirage]

Imma ban you

[winter gale]

I killed it once and I dont want to rekill it 😂

[dark token]

neltharion is way more annoying to rekill imo

sark is really scripted and mistakes dont insta wipe u as much

[keen spruce]

the tiniest violin

for CE reclearers complaining about loot

[gilded oasis]

lets get em duck boy

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Krill issue tbh

[royal lantern]

the worst players get the best rng, you know it man

[gusty mirage]

don't you have a mythic essence?

I don't wanna fucking hear it

you had a chance at the mythic call to suffering

and you volunteered it away

[keen spruce]

no heroic

:c

[gusty mirage]

you've seen a heroic essence?

and call to suffering?

and I'm supposed to feel bad for you?

[runic hinge]

Look up ceverion’s

[keen spruce]

yes

[limber lion]

Yeah he's plater is apparently pretty good

[gusty mirage]

he smells tho

he quit on me

kind of a dick move tbh

[oak sky]

Real

[balmy condor]

Yeh classic rdps denter

[frozen iris]

Saw a heroic call to suffering drop, first time I seen it drop . Sub rogue got it and said it would good for m+, after I offered gold.

[balmy condor]

You offered gold for a heroic call to suffering?

You must be down horrible

[frozen iris]

Yeah haven’t been that lucky for trinkets. Have not seen a beacon drop either. I do have have a 438 dice and 441 bomb.

[drifting cloud]

wtf why not its pretty decent

[balmy condor]

Cause you just farm a dice and call it a day idk

[drifting cloud]

lmaooooo

[balmy condor]

He has a 438 dice and a 441 bomb

[drifting cloud]

rather pay a few 100 for that trinket that run more than 3 freeholds

[balmy condor]

0 reason to buy a nelth trink

[drifting cloud]

surely it beats the dice by alot

[balmy condor]

Not really

[drifting cloud]

I guess the good part of dice is good chance you get it traded to you in a pug

and drops for everyone

or well, almost

[dreamy quail]

hell i cant get a bomb trinket to drop for me..lose the roll everytime it does drop

[warm void]

had to get my bomb dispenser from one of the weekly quests

[wind condor]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[signal badger]

i got a heroic one from the weekly then we dropped one on mythic

[thorny pond]

Tale as old as time

[past bobcat]

Better to run as assasination without a windfurry in raid?

[balmy condor]

No

[cerulean nest]

neltharion down boys

[balmy condor]

[void mesa]

thats a giga trinket woah

[storm forum]

[cerulean nest]

pretty hype

[dense herald]

Wait wasn’t call to suffering 8seconds of primary? Or has it always been 12

[balmy condor]

always 12

the voker one is 18

warlock is 10

[peak bobcat]

Running bombs on sark

[gaunt moat]

I just ordered a new PC and it has RTX 4080.
I will never financialy recover from this

But at least I'll be able to run around Valdrakken smoothly

[spice spire]

onlybuns (bunnies you sick fucks) when

[spice spire]

[gaunt moat]

For the full set you gotta subscribe

[spice spire]

I didn’t expect this man

[gaunt moat]

YOU ASKED FOR IT

Now you must live with it

and pay

[spice spire]

[glacial lantern]

What's making ambush proc off itself?

[runic hinge]

Blindside

[glacial lantern]

Oh it's ambush

i missed the part where ambush could proc ambush

Is deathmark still a pure st cd?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[glacial lantern]

I don't know, it seems to me that blizzard is determined to keeping assassination as the third wheel spec, it doesn't do more st damage, but it does less aoe, than the majority of the specs in the game

It's just kinda crazy that they seemengly think this is ok

Indiscriminate carnage is a significant st dps loss, but even if you go full st, you still won't do as much damage as many other specs in that game, that do better aoe at the same time

[cerulean nest]

third wheel spec bro im pumping

[runic hinge]

There’s a rework in 10.2 coming. Have faith brother.

And yeah, assa loses a lot for bad aoe damage and does decent single target but isn’t the best, I still think it’s fun af to play tho

[glacial lantern]

It's the main reason why i pretty much always played sub or outlaw, also because they are generally faster paced, but with the talents assassination downtime is not ultra high

For the rogue specs ofc, i have a lot of alts

[vapid sierra]

I dont inherently think it’s bad to have some specs slightly worse then others

But blizzard is doing it wrong

It should be based on skill ceiling imo, something like bm shouldn’t do the damage of like arcane or a more complicated spec

[white orchid]

playing without wf feels so bad feels like I do no damage lol

[vapid sierra]

Lmao

Wf is all passive no? Sin doesn’t get energy from auto attacks the way outlaw does

[glacial lantern]

Yea but slightly worse, not a lot worse

Like, i don't see a reason to ever play sin rogue especially in m+ when sub is an option right now

[vapid sierra]

Oh yeah

For sure

[glacial lantern]

They need to fix this, there cannot be such a massive discrepancy

[vapid sierra]

I’m not talking like survival during voti levels of bad

[vapid sierra]

It’s getting fixed lol

Give it another 4/5 months for 10.2

We get ptr before then

[glacial lantern]

I would like to try sin rogue, but at the moment, if i played sin rogue i would definitely miss out a lot of damage

[vapid sierra]

It’s simple

Sub in keys

Sin in raid

Problem solved

[vapid sierra]

It isn’t that drastic

Sin rogue issues come from playing it not the damage imo

As in it has the damage for 20’s

But manual dotting is iffy

[rustic flare]

I hope they get it figured out in 10.2 or whatever hand wave they have for it currently. Its my favorite spec but between the new talent tree and ability reworks it can be real miserable to play in dungeons

[frozen iris]

I have faith that something good will come. Also excited to see what the new tier sets bring.

[rustic flare]

It has to come around eventually right lol

[keen spruce]

oh hey are talkin about upcoming cha-

[rustic flare]

[gusty mirage]

4/5 months? Tf you getting your info from cuz

[vapid sierra]

I mean around November no?

Wait shir thats 3

[gusty mirage]

You realize we’re in august right?

[brazen zodiac]

:o

[vapid sierra]

Bro time flew ever since summer vacation started to be honest

[gusty mirage]

That vacation got your sense of time all fucked up bro

[vapid sierra]

I’m still in may

I literally told one of my friends today I need to run 20’s to fill vault up for tmr

[gusty mirage]

10.2 is going to be either before or right after blizzcon

[vapid sierra]

Turns out yesterday was Tuesday

[vapid sierra]

When’s blizzcon?

[gusty mirage]

Early November

[vapid sierra]

Shii

They haven’t had one I. Years no?

[gusty mirage]

I don’t see 10.1.7 being more than a 5-6 week patch

Tbh

Ain’t enough content in it

[vapid sierra]

^

Probably just more tuning

[gusty mirage]

It’s already been 3 months since 10.1 dropped

[vapid sierra]

Feels like longer

[gusty mirage]

Anything longer than 6 months just doesn’t match their new timeline

[vapid sierra]

Good thing I’m working on an alt for once, that’ll keep me busy

[vapid sierra]

Do we know how many more raids we get this expansion after aberrus?

[drifting cloud]

probably 2

[vapid sierra]

Oh shit so we’re gonna hit roughly thr middle point at 10.2

[quiet oar]

Trust me, that doesnt keep you busy, you get it geared so fast

[gaunt moat]

wtf???
I'll have you know that I've been doing the chromi daily quests every day, and only had the same quests repeat like 4 times! 😠

And also the whelp daycare was fun for like a week! 😠

and! ahh

[quiet oar]

Old man does boomer content

[gaunt moat]

hmm oh yeah, the hourly rift! if i grind it for another year, i might get all the mounts

oh wait

he was talking about 10.1.7

nevermind. yeah you're right, there's no content in it

[quiet oar]

Heritage armor?

Its about 1 hour of content!

[gaunt moat]

but I'm a blood elf. i already did my heritage quest

[royal lantern]

hey

that questline was perfect

[gaunt moat]

Yeah for a week

i'm not complaining

it was nice

[royal lantern]

when the bronze whelp said "there is pollen outside and dust inside, everything makes me sneeze"

it hit to close man

i suffer the same shit

[gaunt moat]

but now i'm missing one quest there to get the achievement, and it never shows.

I also feel dust inside

[keen spruce]

just do keys

infinite content

https://tenor.com/view/morning-sunshine-haggard-stress-cat-just-woke-up-gif-15750669

[quiet oar]

I read your desperate tries

Wont do

[clever sapphire]

What are these "quests" you guys keep talking about? I only know about group finder and raid finder

[quiet oar]

[clever sapphire]

I only ever did story quests

[gaunt moat]

So I've been thinking.
WHAT IF sin got a 5% damage buff?
It's been a while since the last time
I think we're due

[blazing jewel]

Would put us at what 138 sim?

I didn’t think rogue was getting any tuning until .2 so the outlaw stuff was a surprise

[floral saddle]

How is windfury for us? does anyone have a sheet?

[gusty mirage]

Bloodmallet maintains the PI/WFT stuff now

[vapid sierra]

Fuck I woke up early

[royal lantern]

my gues is

assa would do ~5% more dmg

[sharp viper]

crazy

[gaunt moat]

Checks out

[floral saddle]

Thank you, didnt knew that yet 🙂

[gaunt moat]

Still at least 3 months until then. They gotta throw us a crumb, right?

[solid mica]

you wanna be as shit as possible before rework so it's juiced

[gaunt moat]

Let's pretend we won't get nerfs one week after it goes live

[cobalt hemlock]

if we gonna be good one week into nerf straight to trash tier its gonna be dooming season

[gusty breach]

https://media.tenor.com/bD9vHNiR1rQAAAAd/boom-mind-blown.gif

[night delta]

Whoa there nostradamus

[night delta]

One thing blizz is very responsive about rogue : applying the nerfbat when slight superiority is percieved

[royal lantern]

man, idc about numbers that much

just wanna my spec to play good

[gaunt moat]

I want to see a long list of sin changes.
I've never seen such a thing ever.

[solid mica]

I want warlocks to cower in fear they wont even be brought to raid cause youd rather have 5 ŕogues

[royal lantern]

ha

hahahahahah

ahahahahahahhahahah

sure

suddenly you wont need 1-2 gates anymore

[wary ice]

not with poison slide 😎

[clever sapphire]

And hearthstones, and soulstones so you dont have to run

[royal lantern]

why soulstones

just dont wipe

[clever sapphire]

Ah ye right

What if blizzard just made it so you spawn at the boss that killed you

Small misstype

[sweet dawn]

average Dratnos reads patch notes video

[clever sapphire]

Nah it would be more like "assa 5% dmg buff, that means assa going to be topping the meters in M+"

[spice spire]

Aight logging out

[glacial lantern]

Is there a reason why people are not using tiny toxic blade? It sims significantly higher than any other 1 point in that row

Well aside sepsis and bone

Oh wait

ofc

[void mesa]

🙃

[balmy condor]

We love to see it

The realization hitting

[deft flicker]

We will have our own gates

[proven jasper]

Lost another soldier this day

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/the-little-mermaid-sebastian-he-knows-horrified-gif-26340120

[agile osprey]

I’m getting so bored on Nelth prog that I’m making a game out of mitigating echoing fissure damage.

[clever sapphire]

that seems to happen to most rogues progging bosses, they look at their hps and feint/cloak usage more than dps (atleast from what i have seen so far)

[royal lantern]

thats all melee dps tbh

like

dps in p1-p2 is not a race cus you need to stop in p1 anyway at the end, and in p2 you have a 99% chance to hit the immunity

and when you have 1-2 people dead in p3 its a wipe

so you spend the entire progreess waiting for ranged dps to figure shit out

fun

[clever sapphire]

if only ranged dps were as smart as meele dps

smh

[deft flicker]

Do you have a mage??

[clever sapphire]

oh im just complaining, i dont raid

[burnt latch]

horses are pretty cool

[deft flicker]

You can try to fix tgem by using Arcane Intellect

[deft flicker]

True. Never was a horse fan, but they are rather cool

[ember mural]

[cerulean nest]

alright lads

I need Sark tips

prog begins tonight

[cerulean walrus]

Do the stuff

[sweet dawn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dm69zsXRtYNzPZ54Fv4oMT we did it bois, we broke 130

[balmy condor]

p1 will be painful as fuck, two options. Most common is cloaking the glimmer at the end of the phase, but you can try to cloak the second breath. Usually on the second breath it's common to get an external (I got cocoon every pull, seli got guardian spirit I think, etc). P2 you can try to funnel the big add but you're going to do pretty pathetic damage regardless, so usually just end up smashing boss. Throughout the whole fight you will be using sepsis to cover deathmark, vanish is on cooldown to extend outside of that

[cerulean nest]

gotcha

so you're extending every sepsis garrote you can with vanishes

man looking at the charts is depressing for this boss

is going subtlety a wiser move to be more helpful?

[balmy condor]

when the sepsis/dm garrote drops you vanish it yeh

[gusty mirage]

for sark?

[balmy condor]

sub is equally garbage it just does more add damage

[cerulean nest]

yeah. I'm equally comfortable on both

[balmy condor]

which like

can help I guess

[gusty mirage]

you're just swapping some boss damage to adds

and you get like almost no benefit fromt he haste

[cerulean nest]

right

[gusty mirage]

at least assassination gets a decent chunk of damage from the 50% haste

but what you play depends on what you want your job to be

do you want to prio boss damage?

play assassination

if you feel like you need to help with adds

play sub

[cerulean nest]

I mean what I want and what the raid thinks they want from me are potentially different things

but yeah I'll start sin

[gusty mirage]

because sin cranks p3 boss damage

like swap to boss damage on sark

and assassination is less depressing

compared to overall

[cerulean nest]

yeah that's what I usually do lmao

still riding the high off getting class trinket last night

just a vibe week figuring out p1 now

[gusty mirage]

dw the uptime on the class trinket will kill that high for you real quick

lmao

[clever sapphire]

dude oxi let the man have some enjoyment before he gets into sark prog

[gusty mirage]

wdym he's going right into sark prog

sark prison is a dark one for the yellow class

[cerulean nest]

also like

sporecloak/vers phial from the jump you think?

[nova flax]

Definetly vers phial

Rogue isnt in tons of danger in p1 if u feint well

If ur healers are giga struggling u can sporecloak. Id see how it is without it first though

[cerulean nest]

fosh

[balmy condor]

do not sporecloak

please for the love of god

[woeful meteor]

What to do when your guild forces sporecloak https://www.wikihow.com/Leave-a-Guild-in-World-of-Warcraft

[cerulean nest]

bro you think I want to? the guild almost had WW3 over me wearing sark cloak on nelth lol even though I took no damage

[balmy condor]

if you have to sporecloak to survive p1 your healers need to get their shit together, not you

[clever sapphire]

just tell them you dont have any sparks left

[cerulean nest]

can't wait to have this discussion

[nova flax]

I think like early on you might wanna consider not wearing sark cloak while your healers figure shit out

But once theyve got it down you can swap back to it

[marble hemlock]

A shame there was no sporecloak when you were 4 healing kurog

[nova flax]

Though sark cloak on sark is pretty beans. Psure it procs during down phases most of the time

[spice spire]

[cerulean nest]

is sporecloak its own item, or can I craft a 447 and then later on put the embellishment on it

[woeful meteor]

own item

[cerulean nest]

bleh

[balmy condor]

they were already assigning every personal anyway

[marble hemlock]

"everyone craft the shield neck so we can 4 heal next week"

[woeful meteor]

wasn't kurog dps check kinda hard at the start as well?

[vestal wren]

• race change vulpera
• install https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/owospeak

[balmy condor]

it was

that's why we decided to 4 heal prog

and then bled out

[woeful meteor]

[royal lantern]

exsang got into your raidteam

[balmy condor]

we swapped to 5 heal and killed in like 2 raid hours

but it was because we progged so much of the fight already right

not because we were actually surviving

[woeful meteor]

only thing I remember about vault is, that we 4 healed broodkeeper on prog, which was like the second public 4heal. And I have no clue what even was remotely hard to heal about that boss, it kinda just feel over in 8:20 min while everyone else need another 40 sec on average

and there wasn't a point in p1/p2 that felt scary

[atomic star]

damn just got home and the first thing i see in discord is my guild disbanded LOL

rip me

[runic hinge]

Any good drama?

[atomic star]

nah not really

people just tired of lack of progress and were leaving and GM said fuck it and disbanded instead of rebuilding

[clever sapphire]

happened to my last 4 guilds

should rename myself to "Cursedloc, the destroyer of Guilds"

(only been in 4 guilds)

[vestal rivet]

Does the stealth ability from sepsis apply the damage bonus from casting from stealth?

[balmy condor]

yes

[vestal rivet]

So i was looking at logs and what would be the benefit of vanishing ur 3rd dm? Since sepsis is up. Or was this a mistake

[balmy condor]

depending on when the boss dies you would get your last sepsis cast during the tier set after dm in that situation

3rd dm would be at 4 min though so sepsis naturally wouldn't line up anyway

[main vessel]

check dm

[balmy condor]

check dn

[main vessel]

damn

[balmy condor]

if you don't like your guild, leave?

I see

[warm void]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[nova flax]

Whispyr is fuggin cold bro

[balmy condor]

if you just drop into a public disc, shit on your own guilds prog and the raiders in the team

it's time to go

[drifting cloud]

youre supposed to shit on other guilds

like whispyrs

or oxxis

or scanas

[woeful meteor]

consequence my favourite sark prog guild

[ebon notch]

i learnt the hard way that shitting on guildies in public ends badly

[spice surge]

I only clown on scana when i do 50 more dps than him on magmorax, but now his top logs are like 3k over mine so

[ebon notch]

wait scana pumping??

[spice surge]

So now i take the L

Ive been getting the big circles on recent kills too so its doomed

[spice spire]

I only shit on my own guild when I’m the GM and it’s my fault

[wide ridge]

average gm behavior

[spice spire]

Retired 🫡

[burnt latch]

Shit on me i dare u to poop

[ember mural]

Who is oxxi

[drifting cloud]

[ebon notch]

doesnt matter

like at all

in fact its probably worse

cause you're shitting on a larger group of people

[gusty mirage]

wtf

[analog mica]

on Echo during the last section before the 1st add comes out, is holding Deathmark during that 2nd sepsis and sending it after the add comes out with vanish better?

my guild stops dmg pretty much when it comes up to bait lines before pushing

[balmy condor]

on Echo during the last section before the 1st add comes out

huh

like

end of p1?

end of p2?

[analog mica]

the last section with the bombs in p1

[drifting cloud]

it just depends on your guild, you can do alot of different things

[analog mica]

err

the section where you are when add 1 spawns

[drifting cloud]

if p2 boss check is easy for u can even send it on adds, also depends when you plan to lust in p3

[balmy condor]

yeah

I always sent on boss end of p1

[woeful meteor]

he means holding second till rougly 2:40

which idk seems cringe

[gray horizon]

Bro i feel this in my SOUL right now

[balmy condor]

I dm'd boss, second add, and then p3

I think

[gray horizon]

Whispyr sliding into Nelth’s dms 🥴

[balmy condor]

holding DM that long I think just loses a cast doesn't it

[drifting cloud]

most likely yes, but if youd lust start of p3 for example youd then just hold a cast anyways

[woeful meteor]

most people on prog lust at 6 min

[balmy condor]

well yeah but if you hold dm for first add, it comes back up for 3rd and you hold

but if you dm second add, you have it back for the lust

[analog mica]

[woeful meteor]

so not slamming on cd becomes very weird you loose a full cast or atleast a cast during lust

[analog mica]

we lust after 2nd portals

[balmy condor]

oh

[drifting cloud]

then slam on cd

[balmy condor]

yeah

[analog mica]

ight

[woeful meteor]

2nd portals

[balmy condor]

2nd portals is pretty normal

[woeful meteor]

first portals is 6 min

[analog mica]

we got to like 16% no lust so we figure send after portals = kill

[drifting cloud]

isnt after first portals the normal one I forgot been a while and well yeah we kill stuff fast so its even weirder

[woeful meteor]

which is like perfect lust time

[balmy condor]

I might be remembering wrong idk

but like boss dies pre 7 min now right

so lust at 6 makes sense

if that's first then yeh whack

[drifting cloud]

dont think it dies before 7 for prog

[woeful meteor]

it doesnt even die pre 6 on farm for us

[balmy condor]

you guys are going till enrage on farm?

[woeful meteor]

nah

dies during third ports basically

[drifting cloud]

looking at speed numbers of this reset people seem to kill this boss super slow

I guess they still giga hold p1

[woeful meteor]

ye

[gusty mirage]

yep

and they hold p2 now too

so they all have CDs at the start of p3

pop lust & CDs

[woeful meteor]

And since I trial I wont complain about strats for now

[drifting cloud]

our kill today was 6:30 with a buyer

[balmy condor]

we lust second portal that's why it didn't sound weird at first

that was tuesday

[gusty mirage]

I got murdered on tuesday

[drifting cloud]

yeah our brains are full on speed strats by now

[gusty mirage]

someone jumped into my portal and killed me

[drifting cloud]

3 heal whole raid

[gusty mirage]

ryler

when are you 2 healing sark

on stream

[drifting cloud]

maybe next week? not sure

[gusty mirage]

gonna stream for me?

[drifting cloud]

def not

[gusty mirage]

does azor stream

wait

2 heal

hunter

nvm

[drifting cloud]

wdym we already 2 healed it

its kinda not worth, just doable

[gusty mirage]

how does he live anything

[drifting cloud]

if you had really good dps setup

youd murder the boss

[gusty mirage]

ya we 4 heal it still? I think

[drifting cloud]

like 2-3 priests, 3 augs, some uhs

[gusty mirage]

we come up in p3

and the boss is at like

8%

lol

and just dies

[drifting cloud]

we had multiple p1 wipes because of too much dps

boss starts to channel glitter at like 63.5

so if beam hasnt exploded you insta wipe

[gusty mirage]

wild how impactful aug is bro

like we push to like 45-46% in the p2->p3 transition now

and the boss just fucking melts

[drifting cloud]

today they pushed before 3rd add with a buyer lol

this game man

[gusty mirage]

check DMs

in like 2s

[drifting cloud]

but yeah for 2 heal I think all dps is in, because we dont have that big of a roster

maybe 1-2 extra when you need 16

[cerulean nest]

p1 is chaotic af

so fast moving and messy af

[lusty ermine]

anyone know where I can get a log on mythic rashok reviewed?

[spice spire]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[main vessel]

it doesn't have support for Sepsis yet

[spice spire]

That could be posted and clarified for someone easily though

Vanish usage skewed

Let’s see that timeline, aight we Gucci

[main vessel]

Ye, I’m just mentioning it because I harass Whispyr about it weekly

[spice spire]

Man just got back

Harass me papi

[regal sable]

ok but only since u asked

[main vessel]

Man told me he was going bowling

Comes back 15 minutes later and says never mind

[drifting cloud]

think you should ping him and ask again just incase

[balmy condor]

dads fault not me

[main vessel]

Is it still a no

Ryler said to ask again

[balmy condor]

he is now snoring so loud I can't hear my music on my headphones

[gusty mirage]

throw peanuts at him

[balmy condor]

I plucked one of his eyebrows and he didn't wake up

[gusty mirage]

sharpie time

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

[signal badger]

Ty for adding this whispyr

[frozen iris]

Does sepsis work with shrouded suffocation?

[gaunt moat]

Do you mean if the "as if used from stealth" garrote you use while you have the Sepsis buff benefits from shrouded suffocation?

If that's what you meant, then yes, since this count as using garrote from stealth.

[frozen iris]

Okay thanks . That answered my question.

[balmy condor]

np

[quiet oar]

You back in murica?

[balmy condor]

also notter meant improved garrote, you dont get the combo points from shrouded

[balmy condor]

ye

[quiet oar]

How was the fight?

[balmy condor]

pretty chill tbh

we were in a brand new a330

so was smooth af

[quiet oar]

8 hours fight?

Or how long?

[balmy condor]

11:30

we did it in 11 tho

bit ahead of schedule

[quiet oar]

You can play wow now again

You missed it?

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

Mods in ravenholdt shine

Zac also gets 0

[spice spire]

Zac isn’t a mod tho

[balmy condor]

I got cat griefed tho

[quiet oar]

These fucking feral

[balmy condor]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongBumblingRaccoonBleedPurple-Bo8EETVzJ5JC1iNs

[quiet oar]

Ngl

[spice spire]

I think it’s pronounced cat girlfriend

[quiet oar]

I mean you have an excuse for that

I had a 0 on my first kill, because i didnt press cloak with Black hole

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

got a 60something on my first kill, idk

im unable to get a good magma/echo parse lol

everytime we kill them its a garbage Pull where i had 0sophic/trinket uptime and had to run out all the time

i love rng procs

i love them

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[quiet oar]

I had this on magmo 2 Times now

Run out with spit

And die

[royal lantern]

yes

[quiet oar]

Have you done the emote and pfp your self?

Or your gf?

[balmy condor]

like who made them?

[quiet oar]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

I commissioned them

from an artist named akaeii

she also did my discord pfp

for my anniversary with my gf

[quiet oar]

Ohhh

[balmy condor]

she does all my artwork :)

[quiet oar]

Til that your pfp is male

[balmy condor]

yah

the emotes are all a female character based off my features

the hair color and eyes and shit

[quiet oar]

Yeah thats why i thought your pfp is female tko

[balmy condor]

but the pfp is based off a real image of me and my gf

:)

[quiet oar]

Nice

[spice spire]

Whispyr my queen

[quiet oar]

There some Talented artists out there

[balmy condor]

real

[quiet oar]

Whisp ear my Queen?

[spice spire]

I wish

Whispyr flew over me and didn’t even think about me 😦

[balmy condor]

yeah I'm a big fan of the bots that DM you that they need a commission badly so they can pay rent and then when you ask for their work they send you the most deranged twitter page of your life with the most dogshit AI generated art you've ever seen

[quiet oar]

Im really curious how this will work out with AI

Wasnt there a scandal that an AI had stuff from artists without asking?

[royal lantern]

had?

thats all ai "art" does lol

[quiet oar]

Yeah i know, but there was something

[balmy condor]

https://flickr.com/people/195266481@N08 based on this shit, it's gonna be a while

the art style isn't even consistent

[royal lantern]

wdym, the amount of fingers is consistent bettwen 4 and 17

[balmy condor]

M[,L']];;;;;.NK] ;[

fucking cat

but yeah idk

the AI art bots

are deranged

[quiet oar]

The cat has spoken

[royal lantern]

didnt even knew whisp has a cat

[spice spire]

He has two

[royal lantern]

and never saw a cat Pic (from the animal atleast)

[balmy condor]

Left is Linux, right is Frosty

Frosty is almost 10

Linux is around 7 months

[quiet oar]

Linux

[royal lantern]

cat

[balmy condor]

He runs fast, is sleek, and has low overhead

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-gif-27475997

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

And frosty?

Is slippy

Cold

And wet?

[balmy condor]

no

frosty is a snowman

fkin idiot

never heard the story?

[quiet oar]

Nah

[balmy condor]

this generation man

[royal lantern]

man, whats snow

[quiet oar]

Its from 69

Im from 98

Tbf there were newer Episode

[spice spire]

Frosty did what

[quiet oar]

[blazing jewel]

Linux smol

[quiet oar]

I expected a plink from you

You have changed man

[blazing jewel]

I’m addicted to bg3 so I’m not here as much

[quiet oar]

We lost him

[blazing jewel]

It’s goodge

Go play it while wow is dead content

[quiet oar]

I play escape from tarkov now

Patch dropped

[gaunt moat]

I'm waiting to get my new pc next week so i can play too

[cobalt hemlock]

its crazy good man

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

Any askers?

[gaunt moat]

Why are you bullying Scana

[spice spire]

That’s what I do

He’s too smug gotta bring him down a peg

I artificially bully I go until it actually bothers someone and then be supportive

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

It’s a vicious cycle, trying to be a hater and a pal

[blazing jewel]

Quake just for that

If I ever somehow met George

I would look at him

And not pet him

[spice spire]

ThTs a lie

Val just left and George apparently peed on the couch 😦

[blazing jewel]

Deserved

[spice spire]

I haven’t slept since 3 am yesterday and I’m at work for 11 more hours. If anyone deserves to pee on the couch it’s me

[blazing jewel]

Play bg3

Then you can stay up for another 24ezpz

[keen spruce]

I reinstalled TF2

[night delta]

Summer update be like

[cobalt hemlock]

probably one of the better shooters nowadays

[subtle tundra]

its too slow for me... and all i want to see is the sex scenes...

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-24239187

[subtle tundra]

I DONT CARE

I KNOW WHAT I WANT

[royal lantern]

go to r34 then sheesh

[night delta]

Tbf there's an element of immersion and interactivity to this not really found in other forms of media

let a man be

[keen spruce]

i'm gonna immerse my foot in your ass

[night delta]

kinky

not my fetish tho

(my fetish is feeling good playing sin)

[clever sapphire]

damn you must be starved for your fetish at this point huh

[night delta]

I havent censored in 9 months

[clever sapphire]

ye i can smell you through the monitor, of course you wouldnt shower as a tauren smh

[royal lantern]

ah

so you are into C&B torture

gotcha

i dont judge, dont worry

[clever sapphire]

i found a rare breed of assa rogue in my lfr gearing fest

AP DTB player on ST bosses

[night delta]

that's the secret shiv tech, guy lives in 10.2 already