And deadly as fuck dots
#assassination
gusty mirage
I loved the undocumented changes to the timings btw
that was actually so insanely cool of them
the ones from 2 weeks ago
10/10
eager sorrel
It's so anti melee with a pushback + pool under the boss + lines that come from the boss and track people + peel off to do adds because some idiot decided to hit it below 50%
quiet oar
Sarka prison is almost over
quiet oar
Ohh
quiet oar
Yeah i can imagine
keen spruce
also many many kills on 10.1.5 release
quiet oar
Yeah everything they did with this Boss
keen spruce
when it was basically heroic
quiet oar
Was so Bad
keen spruce
with more health
gusty mirage
instead of just turning it into a target dummy that does nothing
keen spruce
for about 5 hours
gusty mirage
they just keep tweaking it
for no reason
idk how hard it to accept that the boss is just bad and nerf it into the ground
quiet oar
I mean its fsirly easy now right?
gusty mirage
like it's not fun to play for anyone
keen spruce
it was like a 100-150 pull boss pefore the changes for late ce teams
gusty mirage
I mean yeah but it's not even fun
quiet oar
Yeah ok
keen spruce
which is like kinda okay for that part of the raid for late ce guilds
gusty mirage
garbage boss
keen spruce
the way trap activated could have been neat
if they were like hands on a clock
that take a bigger and bigger pie outta the room
or you divide it up for better tac destruction management
tbh those fkin golems drive me crazy
going CC immune for no reason
quiet oar
Because range dps didnt know what the Plan was
keen spruce
like bruh why can you not just pick up a tool
then click on a trap
why add an extra step
burnt latch
Is the trap debuff dispellable
Nope
quiet oar
Well
dusk summit
Do we know if Iridius fragment is fixed in terms of simming?
dusk summit
gotcha, I have hourglass and mirror and just wondering if I should be going for higher Ilvl fragment as well as bombdispensor/nelth trinket.
keen spruce
bomb + nelth/ominous/dice/beacon
is your normal go-to trinket setups
all good for different reasons / situations
i think mirror is okay
yeah mirror probably right behind those
along with like anvil
dusk summit
i planning on mirror and bomb when I get that
keen spruce
sandglass also decent iirc
can't remember which mega dungeon trinket was better
but just ignore fragment
it's not worth pursuing unless you're a fresh 70 and happen to get one before any other trinkets
dusk summit
buddy is say fragment is bis for him but if its simming wrong I dont see how it it but apparently thats what people are using (boomy)
gilded oasis
It's simming wrong for sin. Idk if it's simming correctly for other classes. I know some classes want it
royal lantern
It's simming wrong for sin. Idk if it's simming correctly for other classes. I k...
the "problem" is that mutilate counts as 2hits and takes 2stacks away eith 1cast
cus thats how mutilate works
keen spruce
ye very specific problem with mutilate in sims
fragment very good on a lot of wizards
gusty mirage
ye very specific problem with mutilate in sims
go quicksim fragment
and check the stacks
it's actually really funny
cerulean nest
ambush doesnt automatically use up the sepsis buff right?
feel like it randomly is tonight for me
gaunt moat
It does, unless you have a blinside proc active
silk bane
u guys lucky I didnt let my intrusive thoughts win cuz oh boi I had the most cooked assassination rework idea known to man. pretty sure if I said it here, I would get sent straight to the looni bin. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
teal iris
u guys lucky I didnt let my intrusive thoughts win cuz oh boi I had the most coo...
now i'm curious
silk bane
u cant tempt me. Im not going back to the bin. theres rats there. the rats made me crazy. 🐀
frigid kestrel
u cant tempt me. Im not going back to the bin. theres rats there. the rats made ...
storm belfry
fleet whale
Assassin needs help
blazing jewel
no u
sweet dawn
blazing jewel
the face of a true sin rogue player
spice spire
A gamer
gaunt moat
I have a code review for job interview at 12pm. It's now 6am. Not even tired.
Advice?
runic hinge
Sleep 2 hours but no more
gaunt moat
Too stressed to sleep too 
storm forum
Stab something
Like go to your kitchen and find a knife and a cabbage
And just go to town
I usually go for onions, so I can put them on sandwiches later
gaunt moat
spice spire
I usually go for onions, so I can put them on sandwiches later
Brother (or sister tbf never asked) I ask this very seriously, are you good?
storm forum
I'm a brother and I am not good
spice spire
What’s wrong sir?
storm forum
If it makes you feel any better, a therapist taught me that one
I no longer see that therapist
storm forum
But I do sometimes chop onions and tomatoes when I'm extra stressed
It's like a little impromptu meal prep
gaunt moat
I never thought the advice i was gonna get would involve knives
storm forum
????
spice spire
You see chopping and stabbing are two very different things 
storm forum
It's the rogue discord, why are we not giving more knife-based advice?
gaunt moat
We're ethical assassins
storm forum
Huh, I guess. As far as knives go, I think cutting veggies is definitely on the ethical side of the spectrum.
Although now I'm tempted to give some unethical knife-based advice
Like, you don't need to sharpen your knives if you steal enough of them
gaunt moat
Don't take it the wrong way
But I don't think you are the right person to take advice from
storm forum
If you take advice from me
Ur in a dark place
I figured you were already in a sufficiently dark place if you're asking for job advice in a class discord server
Also I slept for like 3 hours last night I'm being extra unhinged tonight
gaunt moat
I'm mostly in a "fucked up sleep schedule" place and there's no one to talk to at 6am
blazing jewel
storm forum
If you just wander around while it's dark out
Bring a knife though, just in case
Or to threaten someone to talk to you I guess. I never did that one but I guess you could if you were really desperate.
Ok I just reread that
And I need
To sleep
runic hinge
I used to walk around and talk to strangers when I was drunk and I regret that now
storm forum
Please don't walk around in the dark with a knife
Yeah I remember why I don't do that anymore
gaunt moat
You're scaring me
storm forum
Last time I did I got some real wild confessional baggage
spice spire
The sun goes down
runic hinge
We’ll get em next time
spice spire
I miss you every day mister lanille
Even if you betrayed your old pfp
I’m glad ur here
near osprey
what the fuck happens in the sin channel? Are you all stabbing people in real life? I'm never leaving the outlaw thread again.
storm forum
I have never needed to actually stab someone
spice spire
what the fuck happens in the sin channel? Are you all stabbing people in real li...
we shoot the shit waiting for energy to regen
Enjoy doing 79 apm and equally 0 damage bozo 
storm forum
The threat of a bearded man with a knife at 4am is usually enough to deter confrontation
spice spire
(This is a joke)
near osprey
I'll enjoy doing 0 damage, but mainly because I'm trash
haughty flicker
i swapped to sin because i do the same or more damage in raid but dont give myself carpal tunnel
big win
spice spire
I'll enjoy doing 0 damage, but mainly because I'm *trash*
Amen brethren
Just like me ong
near osprey
I've been playing it mainly to ignore mechanics. I just tell my raid leader "sorry I can't do AOE damage" and just tunnel vision the boss
spice spire
Dog if you’re playing outlaw it’s one button 
storm forum
I don't know why I started playing sin
near osprey
Dog if you’re playing outlaw it’s one button <:ICANT:1030537928235040859>
to clarify, I've been playin 'sin to avoid doing aoe damage. I came in to ask a question but I forgot when I realized ya'll are wandering in the dark stabbing people
storm forum
I feel like I need to clarify that I have never actually stabbed anyone
Ok I realize I need to ammend that statement
I have never stabbed anyone in the dark
I stabbed someone by accident in fencing class
storm forum
The swords have blunted tips with wire wrapping things, but my thing broke
....
Man
I didn't think of that
near osprey
near osprey
❤️
storm forum
Uhhh yeah
near osprey
thanks for the chuckle before bed, night all
storm forum
I have totally stabbed people
storm forum
In the dark or otherwise
spice spire
Or you can just say “I’ve never stabbed anyone.” Ezpz
storm forum
Definitely with poisoned knives like a real assassin
I tell that lie every day in real life
I want an original lie
One that screams out "I'm insane(ly edgy)"
spice spire
“I play assassination rogue and disc priest.” Is enough of one
storm forum
Yeah but that's not a lie
Man I'm glad no one plays assassination or disc
If my guild saw what I said in these spec channels
Ok actually maybe it's ok
I'm not doing anything unethical
blazing jewel
“I play assassination rogue and disc priest.” Is enough of one <:kekdog:90720703...
anyone that says this needs schizo meds immediately
the strong kind
blazing jewel
blazing jewel
yea uhh same 
@spice spire
storm forum
My guilds have always had an outlaw rogue and an hpriest, that both would prefer to not swap specs
spice spire
Not even the top 3 rogues in your guild 
vale shore
so I can get away with "ima tunnel the boss now. good luck with the adds"
storm forum
I miss when I did more st damage than the uh dk in my old guild
He eventually remembered to swap out of his m+ talents
runic hinge
Last tier I beat my whole guild every fight. This one wasn’t as successful
spice spire
quake the type of dude to enjoy CT in single target
Okay and
blazing jewel
vale shore
storm forum
Fellow CT on ST enjoyers
blazing jewel
Last tier I beat my whole guild every fight. This one wasn’t as successful
bro I got beat by an aff lock on magmorax
storm forum
Isn't aff like rly good rn?
runic hinge
bro I got beat by an aff lock on magmorax
I was consistently beating everyone until the warlock got fragment and class trinket in the same week
blazing jewel
runic hinge
Our enhance shaman can also high roll above me. But this week I got bomba so maybe I’ll take back top spot
oak sky
<:Seedge:998669760915054622>
I miss seedge in game
blazing jewel
when you fail a mechanic but get to publicly shame yourself in front of the raid
oak sky
when it was on twitch emotes v2
deft flicker
I miss seedge in game
Mages can still seedge for a while
oak sky
deft flicker
Or is that a different kind of seedge??
royal lantern
when you fail a mechanic but get to publicly shame yourself in front of the raid
can just Play holy Priest for that, even more visible
quiet oar
when you fail a mechanic but get to publicly shame yourself in front of the raid
Mages with alter time
signal badger
sark down, thank god, now we pray for good next tier
balmy condor
sark down, thank god, now we pray for good next tier
cobalt hemlock
sark down, thank god, now we pray for good next tier
grats man!
vestal wren
sark down, thank god, now we pray for good next tier
congrats
subtle tundra
Man I'm glad no one plays assassination or disc
my guildies have snitched on me
for what i said here
cyan stratus
Quick question, how much mastery do you want as an assa rogue?
hollow dirge
as much as you can get 😄
cyan stratus
Also aren't we getting energy starved with so little prio to haste?? in ST I mean
keen spruce
a bit
normally around like 1:30 into the fight when you run out of tea before your 2nd deathmark
robot will normally want you to pick up some haste though
once your crit and mastery and ilvl get high enough
but it's all pretty fluid
even with like 16% haste you're still gonna have energy valleys where you're out of tea and kinda just vibing hoping for blindside procs
just not something to worry about
clever sapphire
"proceeds to go grab a coffee because no tea, no dm, no blindside procs"
scarlet orbit
i played with my sub gaer assa at zskarn so 0 haste and some trys i had no issues with energy and some i was through my teas really quick
deft flicker
I don’t think it’s something haste can easily fix
keen spruce
you would need criminal amounts of haste
to solve any energy starvation issues
just enjoy the downtime to change your music or something
deft flicker
Yeah
clever sapphire
as assa you can just vibe
cyan stratus
usually I try and use tea on the opener, then kyrian, and then kyrian/Sepsis. Is that 2 little use of tea?
Because then I should've recharged 2 stacks when I get deathmark up again, and then I have 1 free use of team throughout the downtime
balmy condor
usually I try and use tea on the opener, then kyrian, and then kyrian/Sepsis. Is...
Sorry I’m not understanding, you’re using tea with kyrian and sepsis?
cyan stratus
Yes
balmy condor
Yeah stop that
balmy condor
You use tea for energy
cyan stratus
then sepsis + kyrian
balmy condor
The tea during opener is just to get it on cooldown
Otherwise you’re not using it “with” anything
cyan stratus
okay
balmy condor
You’re just hitting it when you know you’re not going to overcap the energy
clever sapphire
But Mr Queen Whispyr von Roguestein, tea gives Mastery so it must be good to use it with dmg cooldowns 
(not fronting anyone, just memeing about the mastery on tea)
balmy condor
cyan stratus
But Mr Queen Whispyr von Roguestein, tea gives Mastery so it must be good to use...
ngl that was my initial thought, but if that is not the case then I will just adjust
balmy condor
Tea in beta sucked without the mast but they can’t buff the energy much higher so they added the mastery but then if it’s too much mastery it just turns into a burst cd so it was just enough mastery to buff it passively without changing the gameplay but now everyone sees mastery and goes coocoo for coco puffs
subtle tundra
🥺
clever sapphire
ngl that was my initial thought, but if that is not the case then I will just ad...
ye that happens a lot, seeing as that would be a correct assumption when lookin at it for the first time
balmy condor
cursed lore
cyan stratus
At how many targets do you stop trying to maintain garrote on all enemies?
My guess would be 3, but honestly no clue
balmy condor
you try to maintain garrote just for the energy in aoe
can only ever maintain 3 cause the cooldown
so you just cycle it
balmy condor
yeah rupture the same idea
if you need more energy, time for more rupture
otherwise it's back to env/ct
cyan stratus
Wish there was a way to extend the garrote dot, for dungeon purposes
cyan stratus
When will the rogue rework be live?? 10.2?
balmy condor
it's planned for 10.2
vapid sierra
That’s what most people are thinking
vapid sierra
Did it get announced for 10.2?!?
balmy condor
talents get moved around and changed and shit
vapid sierra
I thought it was speculation with most people saying it’ll come 10.2
balmy condor
Did it get announced for 10.2?!?
idk, would you trust ion saying it in a wowhead interview as "announced"
cyan stratus
idk if it's just me, but exsanguinate seems super bad for a 3 min cd no?
vapid sierra
Stupid question, Who’s ion?
vapid sierra
idk if it's just me, but exsanguinate seems super bad for a 3 min cd no?
It’s bugged and shit to use
cyan stratus
oh, what is the bug?
vapid sierra
<a:rotating_skull:1105379925034274826>
Ah Oopsies
vapid sierra
I think duplicating dm or something
balmy condor
they know more than me
vapid sierra
^
I’m so out of loop with wow, gotta get back in when I get back
Should be paying more attention to wowhead tho
And to who’s in charge 💀
balmy condor
it's aight, nothing changed in the last 4 months
balmy condor
but yes, we were supposed to get changes in 10.1.5
and then some unfortunate circumstances occured
vapid sierra
Didn’t the designer have personal issues?
balmy condor
and they had to post-pone
vapid sierra
If so hope they doing well
balmy condor
Didn’t the designer have personal issues?
a sudden death in the family yes
vapid sierra
That’s unfortunate
Understandable for why it’s getting pushed
So how come your not calling it a rework and more of a talent change?
Isn’t sin getting the most overhauled he cause of aoe?
And aren’t they touching rogue tree because of the 2% extra damage nodes that do nothing?
balmy condor
"rework" has a pretty big weight behind it
vapid sierra
Fair enough
vapid sierra
Revision would be a better word?
balmy condor
I would assume most of the single target stuff for example on sin stays the same
balmy condor
class tree wise we might see a couple new utility nodes and they probably remove some damage nodes
but like
vapid sierra
Could see them buffing kb
balmy condor
I don't want to over-hype the changes right
vapid sierra
Fair enough
balmy condor
cause if I'm running around calling it a rework
and then it's like 3 pointers removed, exsang redesigned, 1-2 new aoe talents
people will lose their shit and be like WE WERE PROMISED A REWORK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and that's a headache I don't want to deal with
vapid sierra
No that’s the one channel I don’t visit
balmy condor
the doomium factory
vapid sierra
I learnt how to play sub since it’s somewhat meta? And then never went back to that channel
Outlaw memes about being zoomers and all that
Sub is that but 1000 times worse
balmy condor
it's mostly like the outlaw players that rerolled sub for the +1.2% better m+ performance and they're screeching that sub isn't even playable anymore because augvoker meta and rogue being a bad target and you can't ever play rogue again because it's so shit and no one would ever invite you
vapid sierra
they don't call me a hooker
I’ve never called you a hooker
Only a professional entertainer
vapid sierra
it's mostly like the outlaw players that rerolled sub for the +1.2% better m+ pe...
Yeah, same thing with raid, half of outlaw went to sub
balmy condor
they don't call me a hooker
the only hook you have should be in your mouth u dumb duck
vapid sierra
vapid sierra
vapid sierra
and realized i have no fuckin idea how to play sub
Dude it’s brainless
keen spruce
u say that
balmy condor
you kinda gotta know what you're doing tbh
vapid sierra
Click stuff on cd, almost always the same globals in dance
keen spruce
then they start talkin about rupture timings and finality and gloom blading in dance and stuff
keen spruce
and i'm like yo i just refresh that shit like i'm playing sin and occasionally put it on several targets
vapid sierra
In dance our dance?
balmy condor
but once you memorize some stuff it's good to go
vapid sierra
As in sect tech as second finisher
keen spruce
yeah it's a little piano fingers in the opener
balmy condor
yeh like in dance you gotta do the same shit and then out of dance you're doing finality nonsense
vapid sierra
And dance in st on low cp into gb
keen spruce
and kinda specific in dance
balmy condor
shits weird
vapid sierra
yeh like in dance you gotta do the same shit and then out of dance you're doing ...
Exactly
Once you memorize your dance window
Your good to go
keen spruce
i didn't even know wtf that little finality icon was in my afenar package until like 2 weeks ago 
vapid sierra
Light work
keen spruce
and i'm almost 3200 
cyan stratus
How bad is a kingsbane build?
keen spruce
bad enough to not play it
vapid sierra
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
balmy condor
kingsbane 
keen spruce
pawnsbane 
vapid sierra
It’s just a refresh rupture out of dance if you have it buffed and it’s < 10 seconds no?
And what are the finality optimizations?
vapid sierra
Fair enough
vapid sierra
Outlaw for me on raz
balmy condor
well yeh but it's me
balmy condor
if I have to play outlaw on prog it's the actual end times
vapid sierra
We had big attendance issues
vapid sierra
if I have to play outlaw on prog it's the actual end times
Why
keen spruce
my eyes kinda glazed over when i was reading it
vapid sierra
Outlaw is actually fun
keen spruce
the finality stuff
balmy condor
famous outlaw hater
keen spruce
it's not that complicated though
just weirdge
you don't worry about pandemic
just always refresh before dance but sometimes not
keen spruce
i had fun running giga long arms in s1
balmy condor
also roll the bones is dogshit
keen spruce
but my fingies started hurting
RTB very silly
just had a weak aura tell me to reroll or not
vapid sierra
just always refresh before dance but sometimes not
If you have the buff you just refresh before dance and that’s it?
vapid sierra
but my fingies started hurting
Yeah that’s my only issue, after progging diurna for three hours a night my hands would hurt
junior lagoon
I like the cp extending outside my hp bar, while I still overcap them anyways :D
vapid sierra
I mean i mashed buttons tho
keen spruce
but like yeah with finality up
before dance
then like 3rd and 4th between dances or something like that
it's all mapped out
i just ignore it
and it seems to make very little difference
but i also don't play sub in raid
so like idc about optimizing damage
i'm spending like 30% of my globals gouging and cheap shotting shit
cuz meta sewer demons
have flippers instead of hands
and dont use cc or kicks
vapid sierra
No one kicks and expects the rogue to deal with the shit
Are there optimizations for sin to be made?
Apart holding cds to fit the fight profile better
balmy condor
not really
keen spruce
like.. maybe try to hold one shiv leading up to dm so the 2nd charge comes up for more shiv uptime
basically nothing tho
keen spruce
i don't think that's really that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things
when your parse is gonna depend on your sophic uptime and trinket procs
not your shiv optimization
keen spruce
uhh I think it only really matters on nelth and sark
cuz you're stopping damage on nelth in p1
vapid sierra
Like 5 minute you’ll hold third dm for potion
keen spruce
and you lose most of a sepsis if you use it in p1 sark
oh yeah
like... between 5:30 and <6m
ig
vapid sierra
Am I thinking of it wrong? With dm+ exsang we do holding and stuff, sep+ dm we don’t do anything
vapid sierra
Apart 5 min
keen spruce
sep + dm there's no holding on a normal fight
cuz your 3rd sepsis on cd gives you imp garrote coverage into the start of your dm
then you vanish garrote during that 2nd dm
in pandemic
basically all lines up pretty cozy
blazing jewel
you hold your last DM for pot
I’m going to hold you until pot 
gaunt moat
you hold your last DM for pot
gilded oasis
you hold your last DM for pot
only thing I hold is gme
spice spire
so magmorax
How long of a fight is magmorax 
quiet oar
How long of a fight is magmorax <:hmm:671849797119901710>
5:45
gilded oasis
at least 2 mins
spice spire
Ahh carry on then
gusty mirage
only thing I hold is gme
okay grandma lets get you back inside
cerulean nest
Im probably missing something stupid here but can someone tell me why the sim I ran today with the exact same gear is 2000dps less than one I ran earlier?
omg its 7 mins
celest ruin
5 mins vs 7 mins
cerulean nest
LMAO
somber sparrow
but to be fair, you were right that it was the exact same gear 😄
cerulean nest
yeah I was so confused
gusty mirage
errant swallow
loud gull
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
strange python
Any kind soul that can share their opener on mythic echo to me in a dm or something ? I feel like I'm doing something wrong
blazing jewel
Should just be the normal opener
keen spruce
normal opener but vanish gar in pandemic for your imp garrote
and hold 2nd dm if you guys are ahead on dmg in p1
if you're behind on dmg then just send everything like normal
strange python
fair maybe just the vacation break I had thats gotten me rusty.
spice spire
Real
gaunt moat
I just never use my CDs, I'm ethical.
gaunt moat
You also bloodlust on phase 1
ebon notch
what boss
keen spruce
nelth
spice spire
Ur mom
gaunt moat
keen spruce
okay am i being trolled now
you don't even need to scroll up
to see my answer to that
ebon notch
idk notter said it so it must be true
balmy condor
Who the fuck lusts on pull on nelth
keen spruce
notter is an untrustworthy propagandist
balmy condor
That’s some cursed shit
ebon notch
shmeeps does
blazing jewel
That’s still cursed
keen spruce
WE HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO P2 YET 
ebon notch
shmeeps are you planning on clearing nelth next tier or
gaunt moat
wow one excuse after another, it never ends shmeeps eh??
keen spruce
THAT WAS LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO
ebon notch
these strats are not ideal
spice spire
you finished progging assault heroic yet
I’m 1.5 off of m rashok man tf
gaunt moat
gaunt moat
You guys still need to nail down phase 2
but after that, it'll be like 10 pulls
keen spruce
the hardest part of p2
ebon notch
I need him to send me some nocco
too expensive to ship
blazing jewel
too expensive to ship
I bought “Alani” this shit takes like sunscreen
ebon notch
wtf is that
gaunt moat
the hardest part of p2
I think you'll also take time to figure out where to stand on 3rd add
spice spire
I bought “Alani” this shit takes like sunscreen
Which flavor
gaunt moat
there's like 5 safe pixels
spice spire
Some of them taste awful but they have like 2/3 good flavors
spice spire
Ass
They have a Halloween one, witch’s brew that’s insanely good
And then the cherry wherever I’d also good
But really sweet
balmy condor
I think it might have been the shaved ice flavor
My nickname in high school
blazing jewel
drifting cloud
why is daps flaming in here wtf
gilded oasis
ebon notch
why is daps flaming in here wtf
i didnt flame anyone wtf
short forge
guys, bloodmallet shows that the iridius fragment is simming 2nd best option, is that sim correct?
balmy condor
blazing jewel
I don’t trust you purple man
short forge
thank you! :))
balmy condor
I don’t trust you purple man <:Susge:888573531468734555>
I'll send you whimper mp3 on god don't tempt me
blazing jewel
Bark woof bark bark
blazing jewel
Quake have you been getting these too
blazing jewel
ebon notch
https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923750073499648/1134211112053...
wtf wasnt flame
spice spire
Dog even my dog guild cleared that week one 
balmy condor
<:kekdog:907207037757296710>
I flipped it on and the first words out of my mouth were "hi daddy quake" and he was ready to stab me through the screen on the spot
I've never felt someones fight or flight trigger so intensely before
spice spire
Legit almost ripped a fastball into the wall
keen spruce
daddy quake 
blazing jewel
“Kiss me through the phone daddy quake”
spice spire
balmy condor
daddy quake <:ALOO:1099033558691106856>
balmy condor
quake's block list is about to quintuple
spice spire
From 1-5, makes sense
gusty mirage
go eat butter sandwiches
balmy condor
wtf that's my thing
spice spire
wild lantern
go eat butter sandwiches
that sounds banger rn tbh
balmy condor
wait do you eat butter sandwiches too jez
ebon notch
post whimper.mp3
spice spire
too
wild lantern
wait do you eat butter sandwiches too jez
wait have we not had this discussion
gusty mirage
wait do you eat butter sandwiches too jez
you eat saltines with margerine?
keen spruce
spice spire
@gusty mirage get me out dog
gusty mirage
or do you butter actual bread
keen spruce
can i come
gusty mirage
because you're not a psychopath
balmy condor
wait have we not had this discussion
I put peanut butter and butter usually
keen spruce
i wanna leave now too
gusty mirage
I put peanut butter and butter usually
she puts margerine/butter between two saltines
ebon notch
butter sandwhiches are a great depression meal right
gusty mirage
and calls it a butter sandwich
wild lantern
I used to eat saltine crackers with margarine in between them and then squeeze out the margarine through the lil holes like silly string
gusty mirage
butter sandwhiches are a great depression meal right
the only depression greater than having jez tank a key for you, yes
ebon notch
balmy condor
I used to eat saltine crackers with margarine in between them and then squeeze o...
I do this with cheese whiz
balmy condor
it don't hit the same
gusty mirage
I do this with cheese whiz
yeah because that's normal
wild lantern
I do this with cheese whiz
this is why we're friends
we have the weirdest mind melds
gusty mirage
I'm bonding here
you can bond with someone other than jez
wild lantern
cheese whiz is imitating cheese
gusty mirage
you don't need anymore of jez in your life
she's your toxic trait
she brings out the worst in you
gusty mirage
cheese whiz is imitating cheese
and you imitate a sane human being
you should love cheese whiz
wild lantern
cheese whiz is actually unholy I can't eat it
but margarine on saltines
that shit hits different
gusty mirage
but you can eat fucking margerine?
spice spire
I’m tempted to mute her
gusty mirage
you're actually disgusting
gusty mirage
you're a gross human being
spice spire
She’s a real person
spice spire
I refuse to believe it
wild lantern
and james is an idiot for having married you
I've been telling him that since the altar
spice spire
That was a real sequence of bullying holy
wild lantern
Told him I was gonna hide the marriage certificate because he can't return me without the receipt
balmy condor
ebon notch
and james is an idiot for having married you
wtf
wild lantern
man still thinks he married up
gusty mirage
he grew up in new england right?
wild lantern
no, San Diego
gusty mirage
even worse
gusty mirage
"Yeah fuck good weather let's go where it's winter 8 months out of the year"
balmy condor
winter is good weather fuck you
spice spire
better EU ping
Touch grass I beg
wild lantern
winter is the best weather what the fuck
gusty mirage
says the guy who's never shoveled snow
balmy condor
I HAVE SHOVELED SNOW WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
balmy condor
GERMAN SNOW UP TO MY WAIST GO FUCK YOURSELF
ebon notch
Touch grass I beg
no u
blazing jewel
gusty mirage
GERMAN SNOW UP TO MY WAIST GO FUCK YOURSELF
thank god you did it on vacation
not at 6am so you can back out of your driveway to go to work
ebon notch
this channel is where the mods come to shout at each other
blazing jewel
@spice spire blue slush slightly better
balmy condor
not at 6am so you can back out of your driveway to go to work
it was 8am and I had to shovel a 50 foot driveway so we could go to a funeral
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> blue slush slightly better
Not a big blue slush fan (in general, not just there specifically)
ebon notch
we're lucky hataro hasn't discovered this channel yet
wild lantern
this channel is where the mods come to shout at each other
this happens every time I get pinged
gusty mirage
it's always mfers from warm climates (and jez apparently) who always say "SNOW IS SO COOL GUYZ"
spice spire
I can ping him
wild lantern
it's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me
lucid birch
He’s talking about <@753767488524910613>
sup
ebon notch
this happens every time I get pinged
do you actually play outlaw
spice spire
See above papi, sorry made a bad joke
gusty mirage
do you actually play outlaw
yeah she needs grapple to farm her tmog faster
wild lantern
do you actually play outlaw
on my absolute ratshit alt yes 
spice spire
it's always mfers from warm climates (and jez apparently) who always say "SNOW I...
Literally my future wife
wild lantern
and by play I mean do dailies and world content
blazing jewel
it's always mfers from warm climates (and jez apparently) who always say "SNOW I...
Drifting in snow though 
keen spruce
i'd shovel daddy quake's snow
gusty mirage
Drifting in snow though <a:catyes:832201432337874954>
yeah I love drifting in snow on the interstate
spice spire
I’ve had to shovel snow like 6 times ever
gusty mirage
it's so fun
spice spire
And nah
wild lantern
yeah she needs grapple to farm her tmog faster
specifically yes with the mog in the deadmines
spice spire
i'd shovel daddy quake's snow
Blocked
balmy condor
do you actually play outlaw
I tried to teach her to play assassination, or subtlety, but she played outlaw and went "it fun" and then logged off
actually just an irredeemable human
gusty mirage
finally something we agree upon
wild lantern
I tried to teach her to play assassination, or subtlety, but she played outlaw a...
NO
YOU FUCKER
ABSOLUTELY NOT
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
YOU TOLD ME
YOU BITCH ASS
keen spruce
but yellow name
wild lantern
THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PLAY SIN
keen spruce
wild lantern
BECAUSE I WANTED TO PLAY SIN IN NATHRIA
gusty mirage
THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PLAY SIN
please refrain from typing in all caps and typing like infinitedude
wild lantern
BUT YOU SAID NO
balmy condor
sure I did
keen spruce
sin didn't exist in nathria
wild lantern
and you told me to play outlaw instead
so I fucking played outlaw like a good little raider
balmy condor
because you had to perform in raid
spice spire
BECAUSE I WANTED TO PLAY SIN IN NATHRIA
You mean the tier where it was like omega dogshit (I assume not 9.0.5)
ebon notch
sin in nathria was garbage for 70% of it
balmy condor
yeah
keen spruce
sin before .5
wild lantern
yes, and that's fine
balmy condor
sin was unplayable in nathria
keen spruce
wasn't a real spec
balmy condor
I still tried to teach you to play sin
wild lantern
but he keeps saying "she just played outlaw and gg"
keen spruce
it was doin like 70% of the damage of normal class
spice spire
Like I had a purple parse doing 2.8k dps week one
gusty mirage
it was doin like 70% of the damage of normal class
and like 20% of the damage of a boomkin
wild lantern
no you fucking liar I tried to learn sin and you said ARRRR YER A PIRATE NOW
spice spire
That shit was not good
gusty mirage
spice spire
no you fucking liar I tried to learn sin and you said ARRRR YER A PIRATE NOW
Mf play sin rn then
ebon notch
balmy condor
I'm just naming countries bruh
spice spire
Not like you’re doing much as feral when we’re doing keys (when btw)
wild lantern
Not like you’re doing much as feral when we’re doing keys (when btw)
maybe this weekend actually? But maybe, it depends how bad the campfire is tomorrow
ebon notch
germany irreperably changed whispyr
balmy condor
maybe this weekend actually? But maybe, it depends how bad the campfire is tomor...
are they doing ANOTHER one?
spice spire
maybe this weekend actually? But maybe, it depends how bad the campfire is tomor...
This weekend is probably a no unless Sunday works
wild lantern
This weekend is *probably* a no unless Sunday works
in theory yes - we discuss later 
spice spire
Because I’m being forced to do things 
wild lantern
are they doing ANOTHER one?
yes, for patch 1.1.1 notes
spice spire
🫡
balmy condor
yes, for patch 1.1.1 notes
lack of d4 development can be blamed on devs having to constantly sit hostage in front of a camera and apologize profusely
ebon notch
@drifting cloud you watching tgp with us tomorrow?
ebon notch
@drifting cloud fk u
drifting cloud
<@113078189701513216> fk u
lmao
ive got lost ark raids but prolly not till midnight
ebon notch
ive got lost ark raids but prolly not till midnight
the raids are at midnight or
drifting cloud
tgp is till midnight right?
ebon notch
ye
lusty ermine
why do we do the sepsis opener from the FAQ in that order instead of garrote > slice > echo> rupture>deathmark>sepsis?
limber lion
That is exactly what we do
It just hasn't been updated because the gain is small (typical opener stuff) and the rogue rework is coming soon so it's a bit of a waste of time all in all
You won't notice the difference between doing what the FaQ suggest and what you suggest
I do prefer the latter one myself more rotationally
lusty ermine
ahhh alrighty then, thanks! do we know anything about the rogue rework?
void mesa
Soon(tm)
limber lion
Nothing as of yet, just that it's supposed to arrive with 10.2
thorn fjord
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
lusty ermine
should we still be using that WA in FAQ for the garrote timing with sepsis?
limber lion
I mean
If you want to?
I don't, I have my own weak auras
You def want something to track it, but you don't have to use that specific one.
lusty ermine
i'm just slightly confused cuz it pulls up twice from just one cast of sepsis, and I'm not sure if I should garrote immediately on the first, and wait till last second on the 2nd, or just wait till last second on both
deft flicker
i'm just slightly confused cuz it pulls up twice from just one cast of sepsis, a...
Garrote asap on the first and hold the second till you’re in pandemic. This way you get as much empowered garrote time per sepsis as possible (like 40s or smth)
During opener this matters a bit less since you have the opener garrote empowered, so first sepsis one should just be pressed at some point, but you still hold the second
lusty ermine
ahh ok thank you!
gaunt moat
i'm just slightly confused cuz it pulls up twice from just one cast of sepsis, a...
(Hi, I made that WA)
It shows up twice because Sepsis gives you the "Sepsis" buff on cast, and then it gives it you again after 10 seconds.
The WA tracks your sepsis buff (among other things)
There are probably alternatives if you don't like the WA I made, it's personal preference.
lusty ermine
(Hi, I made that WA)
It shows up twice because Sepsis gives you the "Sepsis" buf...
ahhh alright thank you. It's not that I don't like it, I just wanted to clarify. I'm using it and it's very helpful imo
gaunt moat
(Also, keep in mind the sepsis debuff on target is only applied on your cast, and runs out after 10 seconds. it's not applied again.)
lusty ermine
do we still NOT vanish during our opener, and only use it for our 2nd deathmark?
deft flicker
killed zskarn
Did you get the bombas??
deft flicker
do we still NOT vanish during our opener, and only use it for our 2nd deathmark?
No need to, opener + sepsis give enough garrotes for the entirety of deathmark
lusty ermine
well, wouldn't it let you use a free ambush, since you aren't using vanish otherwise anyway?
deft flicker
Free ambush doesn’t really do much because you have a lot of extra energy + want to proc poisons from Mutilate
runic hinge
You’re talking a very small amount of dps at best and you want it to line up with second dm more than anything
lusty ermine
ahh ok that makes sense
keen spruce
Did you get the bombas??
on my warlock? 
deft flicker
on my warlock? <a:HUHHH:1042955029595828295>
Yep
keen spruce
no but they gave me tier
deft flicker
keen spruce
then i had to explain magmo to them
i was just there to fill a spot cuz people were missing and my friend asked 
i can't take this kinda pressure
pulsar plover
I've heard a lot of speculation about rogue rework. It's coming with 10.2 at the latest right?
deft flicker
I've heard a lot of speculation about rogue rework. It's coming with 10.2 at the...
It is confirmed as a part of 10.2, but other than vague “tree reshuffles, new stuff added, bad stuff removed” no news so far (and probably won’t be for a while)
pulsar plover
10.2 is end of the year I assume?
gusty mirage
there's an updated one sir
runic hinge
Oh snap
storm forum
Oof
gusty mirage
once upon a time tiny toxic blade was a capstone
runic hinge
I think my dad passing away was the worst day of my life. Couldn’t imagine already being back at work with all the heathens in here bleating about needing buffs
He’s a real one
gusty mirage
I think my dad passing away was the worst day of my life. Couldn’t imagine alrea...
yep, also partly why I shit on everyone who decides to be a giant baby about it
storm forum
Dude if I was him, I woulda tracked down every doomer in this discord and had them banned
gusty mirage
we wanted to 
runic hinge
Definitely woulda screenshotted nasty dms and had them sent to the mods
pulsar plover
Wait rogue dev is in this disc server?
runic hinge
Sometimes
gusty mirage
the people who posted screenshots of 10.1.7 and cried up a storm
I wanted to send to the void
legit just straight up ban
storm forum
I feel like we all knew something was up with him for months, we're people really that nasty about it?
runic hinge
Deservedly so
deft flicker
the people who posted screenshots of 10.1.7 and cried up a storm
The 19%
gusty mirage
I slammed someone in sub the other day with "I'm sorry the imaginary numbers on your screen aren't high enough to hit that magic dopamine level"
storm forum
I've mostly been dooming in the disc discord so I think I missed that hete
blazing jewel
I slammed someone in sub the other day with "I'm sorry the imaginary numbers on ...
being competitive vs others of the same spec is fun
but always wanting to be #1 overall is cringe
velvet haven
for the assassin boys
gusty mirage
for the assassin boys
storm forum
Beeg
blazing jewel
the knife is such a common drop
gusty mirage
no ddagger
velvet haven
oxi i got my bomb dispenser and my nelth trinket
blazing jewel
no sark dagger
velvet haven
this week
gusty mirage
I've seen the heroic nelth trinket drop once
and it went to a spriest
and I cba pugging and free rolling
I'mma get depresso
its okay guys
sark dagger or nelth trinket in vault for sure this time
right?
blazing jewel
are you guys planning to kill sark every week
gusty mirage
ya
blazing jewel
dagger seems to be a common drop
deft flicker
sark dagger or nelth trinket in vault for sure this time
Hopefully
gusty mirage
dagger seems to be a common drop
is the kaz dagger a common drop too?
cause we've only seen 1 of those on mythic
velvet haven
cause we've only seen 1 of those on mythic
o_O
gusty mirage
I got my kaz dagger last week
I killed sark with a heroic OH sark dagger
it's just my life with end boss daggers
in seppy
never saw the dagger off lihuvim
ever
or the rygelon dagger until the last raid of 9.2.5
before prepatch dropped lol
at least my pally's juiced 🥲
pulsar plover
Wait Pen now you've downed Sark, how did you deal with the Sark adds as sin?
velvet haven
yea on my crimson vial button
gusty mirage
2nd kinda unnecessary tbh
pulsar plover
Wait where does all the leech come from
gusty mirage
leeching poison
velvet haven
Wait Pen now you've downed Sark, how did you deal with the Sark adds as sin?
i just sustained rupture and a garrotte on big add
gusty mirage
you get a free 5% leech for poison
velvet haven
my dps parse is dogshit
velvet haven
true
gusty mirage
just do what I did
velvet haven
XD
pulsar plover
Wouldn't it be better to run sub and pad on adds