assassination

[subtle tundra]

Speak with yo wallet

[slim hamlet]

I did

But then I got summer break and don't know what to do with my time

[minor gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-throw-angry-guy-out-of-milk-gif-14265412

[subtle tundra]

Me neither. I started drinking again

I remembered how happy I used to be from drinking beer

Goated drink

[slim hamlet]

based

[cunning nest]

That's what I do, too. But sin Situation is only reason #1, #2 is the fact that I cannot under stand why Blizz really released that augmentation thing.. As if PI wasnt enough, lol

[rotund oak]

amazing logs btw,bigchad 👌 (not joking)

[limber lion]

Hey don't stroke their ego too much

[quiet oar]

Have you seen his Clip on sarka

Where He barely survive with cloak

On this little death pools

[limber lion]

Nvm he's a beast

[woeful meteor]

Scana 100 average Waiting Room

[exotic hazel]

So is a rework for 10.1.7 happening? Sorry if it's been asked, I've not scrolled back through far

But can't find much info

[balmy condor]

10.2

[exotic hazel]

Thanks bud, any inclination on when we'll start seeing more info? Or is that a silly question

[woeful meteor]

probably once 10.2 ptr cycle starts

[balmy condor]

we'll see info when we see patch notes for 10.2

[exotic hazel]

Gotcha

I'm optimistic after seeing the Pala and Mage reworks

[balmy condor]

I don't have an opinion until I see what the changes are

[deft flicker]

Mage rework is probably the scale of what we can expect

[exotic hazel]

I'm already pretty happy with how Assa and Sub plays in general

But I'm far from an experienced opinion

[spiral pasture]

both specs are incredibly fun, if they pull that off with rogue it will be a very good rework

[deft flicker]

I have hope. Not the best thing to have but rogue has had a lot of interesting stuff over the years, so there are a lot of things to pick from

[spiral pasture]

i really hope they look into spec identity more, like make assa do most of its dmg with dots, make sub do most with finishers etc

[frozen iris]

I wonder what they are going to change. As far as I’m aware rogue doesn’t have a rune of power like thing that they could just remove.

[spiral pasture]

kinda do

altho not nearly as bad

[frozen iris]

And would that be?

[spiral pasture]

slice and dice

[deft flicker]

Doesn’t need to be exactly the same thing

[royal lantern]

slice and dice

symbols of death

like

[drowsy parcel]

dragontempered blades

easiest delete of my life

[royal lantern]

both are abilitys that might aswell dont exist

ye DtB aswell

capstone that is more or less Just "do x% more dmg"

[spiral pasture]

idm symbols, i think it can be used as a nice spell to build talents/tier sets on

[royal lantern]

cool

never happend a single time

since it exist

just a mindless ability you slam on cd 99% of the time

THIS is the first tier since forever where you dont always use it on cd

and its still braindead and stupid

like, "10% more dmg" omg such a big BURST WINDOW ability

[spiral pasture]

yh i mean

there is some truth

but i dont see symbols as a hassle or an ability that makes the spec feel worse for no reason, unlike slice

[deft flicker]

Yeah

[frozen iris]

Really? I don’t mind slice and dice. Especially as assassination. Any idea of what you would like to see added?

[spiral pasture]

would also like to see some new cool capstones for sub, like db is mega boring and rotten idk, im not a fan but i havent touched it too much

gsw should also probably not be a capstone? same for dtb

[deft flicker]

Assa has it up pretty much permanently via Cut to the Chase. Outlaw had it up via Grand Melee. Sub has it up whenever it matters via Premeditation

[royal lantern]

Had it up

[deft flicker]

Idk why keep it in when you can jist adjust any autoattack interactions and remove it and nothing will change

[frozen iris]

That’s fair, looking at it from that perspective.

Be a sad day for me when it goes but it essentially is just do it once and then forget it. I like the way assasination plays at the moment, don’t mind dtb but it is a boring pick. I m excited to see if they come up with something completely new. And hopefully the removal of exsang

[spiral pasture]

also i really hope they make haste better, idk how, but make it better, esp for sub

rogue should not be excluded from bl, pi etc. feeling good

[quiet oar]

BL for my Sub is like 1,5K gain

Its the worst Raidbuff for me

[deft flicker]

I don’t think haste can ever be good as a secondary for energy-based classes

[spiral pasture]

ofc it can be

[deft flicker]

That’s just how we function

[quiet oar]

I mean isnt hunter the same ?

Ah probably not

Nvm

[spiral pasture]

no hunter scales very well with haste

even feral is decent

compared to rogue and monk at least

[deft flicker]

So this is what haste gives:

• reduced gcd (whoops we don’t get that)
• reduced cooldowns on some abilities (so far rogues and feral don’t get that, idk about ww tho. But also what would you give that to)
• cast speed (whoops)
• autoattack speed (with SnD currently being a thing this is very diluted)
• DoT tick rate (sin and feral special, others don’t have nearly as much DoT damage to make it good)

[keen spruce]

feels clunky

idk why tier symbols and normie symbols don't just add together

the time one them

on*

[spiral pasture]

theres absolutely no reason to not make haste do something else for rogue

[keen spruce]

maybe so sub rogues don't fall asleep while playing idk

[deft flicker]

Hunter gets reduced gcd and bomb cooldown IIRC

And cast time on MM

[quiet oar]

Yeah

[spiral pasture]

it can be very boring like giving some % vers based of haste, or something more interesting, but theres ways of doing it

[quiet oar]

Yiz could do the same

to like SD

Symbols

Bte

[deft flicker]

Just make vers give more vers then

[quiet oar]

Shiv

[spiral pasture]

what would that fix

[quiet oar]

Or you need a talent that converts haste into Energy procs

Like you have 20% haste, you get 20% chance that your attacks get you 20 haste or smth like that

[spiral pasture]

theres so many ways of making haste not useless i just gave a random example of how to do it in a very boring way

[deft flicker]

What would haste giving vers fix?? You start getting useless stat to get more useful stat but at a significantly lower rate??

Nah, your stat budget is too limited to spend it on a Carrefour vers

[spiral pasture]

you are focused on the specific example way too much

dont have to have haste as our best stat, just something to make it nice to have when lust or pi is up

[deft flicker]

You have infinite energy

That’s kind of it

Idk what else you may want that other stats/talents don’t cover already

[quiet oar]

Anticipation

[spiral pasture]

oh yes i want that

[quiet oar]

[deft flicker]

Every 10% haste give you an extra cp to store??

[spice spire]

Tf you mfs smoking this am

[deft flicker]

Bald yellow man

[spiral pasture]

i will never accept the take that haste is only this thing ant it cant be anything else because ?? reasons

[deft flicker]

(the ability)

[spiral pasture]

haste alrd functions differently for energy classes

[deft flicker]

What else do you want haste to do then??

[quiet oar]

Nah Anticipation in general

[spiral pasture]

it can be different in a positive way also

[quiet oar]

Would be nice

[deft flicker]

Ye that’d be cool

[quiet oar]

Especially for Sub and Outlaw that got many wasted CPs

Assa doesnt waste so much CPs right?

[deft flicker]

Yeah

[normal otter]

tbh now, how hard does blizzard want to rape assa rogues? I mean just look at the mega dungeon literally nearly second boss goes intoi phase and looses all fkin dots

who is designing this?

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[keen spruce]

rare shmeeps not involved in deep fried morning takes

[quiet oar]

"Morning"

[keen spruce]

it's 9:30

[quiet oar]

Damn american

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

6:30 PM

[spiral pasture]

why is it fried to want haste be not garbage

[balmy condor]

this is so much of a non-issue

[quiet oar]

atm

In Season 3 it would be shit

But

[normal otter]

its just one example for game designers which are balancing with two esyes closed

[quiet oar]

Who the fuck plays Assa in Keys anyways

[keen spruce]

are you in denmark too @quiet oar

is everyone in here danish

[balmy condor]

yeah but it's a bad example cause it doesn't matter

[quiet oar]

No im German

[normal otter]

wat

[quiet oar]

Which is the same timezone as denmark

[balmy condor]

you have to refresh your dots once cause a phase

oh no

the horror

[quiet oar]

Because denmark is literally our hat

[balmy condor]

-90% dps I guess

[keen spruce]

Yo, was geht ab

[quiet oar]

Dont worry, Afflis, Shaodw, Owls will complain load enough

[balmy condor]

it just doesn't make an impact

[quiet oar]

Nichts bei dir, Jo whispyr was geht bei dir

[keen spruce]

that was all i know in german

[balmy condor]

ich lese grad irgendnen schwachsinn, normaller mittwoch abend wohl

[normal otter]

it doenst make any difference if you loose more than half of your duration of the deathmark dots? 😄

[quiet oar]

Es ist mittwoch mein kerl

[keen spruce]

Ja, chef

[thin scroll]

Mein Deutsch ist schlecht. Ich mag Kartoffeln

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

There are so many germans here

and Frenchies

[balmy condor]

if you're pushing deathmark in a way that loses you half cooldown to a phase push you're the idiot idk man

play better

[normal otter]

xD

[quiet oar]

Savage Whispyr at its best

[balmy condor]

that's not even flame

that's just reality

literally don't do that

it's stupid

[normal otter]

ye its reality. I delay my deathmark for morchie which goes into phase every 15 secs

[balmy condor]

[normal otter]

its w/e im just salty, blizz devs are delusional as fk

[balmy condor]

blizz devs are doing fine you're just choosing to complain about random shit

[keen spruce]

droppin a fully stacked agony on aff lock on morchie

[balmy condor]

it's very easy to find anything at all to complain about

if it isn't the phase pushing people will find something else

[keen spruce]

they waited until dragonflight to add a single duck to the game

bad devs

[blazing jewel]

Poisons are stinky

And sticky

[keen spruce]

ayo am i a poison

[normal otter]

nah its not about finding a way to complain. They are just spitting on the spec atm. nothing more. There is 0 work from blizz devs on that class just excuses that they want to wait for the right people. BUt its fine. I just guess everyone has another sight of things.

[keen spruce]

[agile osprey]

shmeeps is /u/fuckswithducks confirmed?

[keen spruce]

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

They will definitely look into that

When its M+

[normal otter]

i bet 100bucks they wont in the first week 😄

[keen spruce]

i mean... I'd rather they delay the rework for the lead rogue dev to do it

[quiet oar]

I didnt say they will look into that in the first week though

[keen spruce]

instead of having a few interns slap something together to ship it on 10.1.5

[strange python]

Interns designing Assa would be terrifying. It would be interesting to see how we could get worse tho

[balmy condor]

y'all think there's enough dooming or does it need more

[cobalt hemlock]

more doom

[strange python]

I've got a few more in me

[winged quail]

always more

[blazing jewel]

I LOVE SIN ROGUE UWU

[keen spruce]

why doom when you can coom

[deft flicker]

Every 5% haste we get another cp slot. Thoughts??

[strange python]

I doom, but I still play it lol

[balmy condor]

headche

[royal lantern]

UWU

[balmy condor]

wouldn't even do much

[quiet oar]

Sin has Doomblade

So

[balmy condor]

might even be something that you don't even play around

[cobalt hemlock]

its in our blood

[quiet oar]

As long as you spam Mutilate

[keen spruce]

rOwOgue

[cobalt hemlock]

born in it molded by it

[blazing jewel]

Make sure to use your 19cp rupture during lust

[balmy condor]

at some point you would just be generating so much you would lose envenom uptime

[woeful meteor]

1 rupture pre fiught huge

[quiet oar]

[keen spruce]

twist the knife buf

[agile osprey]

Fuck it lets make poison bomb a cast while we're at it

[quiet oar]

Toxic Blade is just shiv right?

[balmy condor]

imagine getting pi during lust, sitting at 80% haste, and having to mutilate 9 times in a row to fill your 22 combo point slots

[blazing jewel]

Twist this

[quiet oar]

Idk if you want that tbh

[royal lantern]

PEAK GAMEPLAY ACHIEVED

[deft flicker]

Fun

[keen spruce]

poison bomb 3 part ability where you rifle through your pockets for mats, brew a poison, then throw a phial at the ground

and u have to have bottles in your inventory

and flowers

just like the good ol days

[royal lantern]

aka vulpera racial

[deft flicker]

Sold

[keen spruce]

[deft flicker]

Gimme poison brewing

[winged quail]

what if no exsanguinate? not sure if been mentioned b4

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

you probably the mfer that designed metal playground slides that sit in the sun all day

[keen spruce]

[agile osprey]

That 22 combo point exsang gonna rip tho

[deft flicker]

Unfortunately, no

[keen spruce]

it's been 17 weeks since i've used a finisher, i've been mutilating day and night waiting to fill my combo points

[agile osprey]

[blazing jewel]

Your energy would be so piss trying to build with no dots

[quiet oar]

Just use RC

[royal lantern]

wdym, getting 2nd degree burns while sliding was fun

[balmy condor]

well you would get your dots up first obv

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

would be gar mut rup like usual

[keen spruce]

can you imagine the opener

[balmy condor]

and then you would mut mut mut mut mut mut

[blazing jewel]

[agile osprey]

By the time I'm done building boss is in execute and my dots do moderate damage

[winged quail]

I have it on firm authority from the top minds of this discord that Sin isn't a dot class

[balmy condor]

they ain't any top minds that I've heard of

[deft flicker]

But I remember tearing pants apart on a… idk how do you name the big balloon trampoline slides

[quiet oar]

Step 1: have 22 CPs
Step 2: Use RC
Step 3: get CP empowered to 7
Step 4:????
Step 5: Cry

[keen spruce]

you'd never get to envenom

just keep rupturing

[blazing jewel]

[deft flicker]

Never leaving the fun part

[quiet oar]

But if you achieve getting an 22 CP envomen

[tight compass]

But with 22 CP, would we be viable in m+ with 22cp Crimson 💭

[quiet oar]

this guy appears

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-plink-cat-meow-gif-27396868

[strange python]

Just get high crit, pull big, profit

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-scropts-gif-27699673

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/plonk-twitch-cat-gif-27494506

[runic hinge]

No because my fok only ever gets me 1 combo point

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-half-blink-gif-27531609

[agile osprey]

The sad thing is, this is likely a more engaging conversation about the future of rogue gameplay than anything that has ever happened within Blizzard's doors

[tight compass]

story of my life

[runic hinge]

How am I gonna get to 22

[keen spruce]

bruther imagine trying to build CP in AoE

with 22 cp

[quiet oar]

Just crit wdym?

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

30 seconds of fok and the pack is dead

[balmy condor]

I struggle forming sentences this dumb

[clever sapphire]

RC points split up onto those 22 points, sounds like fun

[tight compass]

Classic rogue gameplay no ?

[gusty mirage]

oh are we back to complaining about blizzard again

what a new and refreshing topic

[keen spruce]

no

[quiet oar]

Yes

[main vessel]

I don’t think I’ve seen you manage it once

[royal lantern]

just copypaste some stuff that gets brewed up in #subtlety

[deft flicker]

No, we have cookage

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-mods-modsareasleep-discord-meme-gif-23110527

[main vessel]

And you’ve talked about microwaving chicken nuggets

[keen spruce]

we're cookin up some deep fried haste ideas

[gusty mirage]

like the guy who was angry about 10.1.7 having no rogue changes yesterday?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-pizza-among-us-among-us-meme-sussy-gif-24581549

[winged quail]

oh hey one of the top minds has appeared

[agile osprey]

Let me doom @balmy condor

[clever sapphire]

you cant eat chicken nuggets 2 hours after they are made, throw it out

[gusty mirage]

wtf

[balmy condor]

channel took an extra helping of stupid pills this morning

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/sounding-gif-24179006

[blazing jewel]

You guys missed the dude in sub yesterday saying that the DB double dipping was fixed because he did less damage in prog

[keen spruce]

oxi can i interest you in max CP haste scaling

[main vessel]

That’s not what I meant

[blazing jewel]

That was good

[gusty mirage]

YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ME WITH THAT ONE MR. RYLER

[keen spruce]

ayo that one was based

[gusty mirage]

not today satan

[balmy condor]

I don't think you understand what you're asking for here

[quiet oar]

Im glad i missed that

[gusty mirage]

no

go back to bed

you sick fuck

[keen spruce]

it wasn't my idea

[gusty mirage]

idc

I'm blaming you

[strange python]

New talent: Corrupted Exchange
1 point node
Increase haste by 50%, but lose 50% stamina.

[blazing jewel]

What evidence do you have. Uhh I do less damage

[keen spruce]

but it was jokes

[deft flicker]

It was mine

[keen spruce]

okay not deep fried

[gusty mirage]

I'm still blaming shmeeps

[clever sapphire]

if we are cooking, make poison bomb proc off of every finisher you do

[keen spruce]

spoon in the microwave ideas

[gusty mirage]

but you should also take a nap just in case

[balmy condor]

I have no problem letting people doom, but it might involve some mutes

[clever sapphire]

imagine you press CT and half the mobs get poison bomb under them

[agile osprey]

[deft flicker]

In 2-3 hours I definitely will

[royal lantern]

just woke up from a nap

felt good

[blazing jewel]

Cat girl erp mutes

[deft flicker]

20am local time

[runic hinge]

Poison bomb proccing off ic rupture

[quiet oar]

Im literal God Gamer it has to be Evil Blizzard

[clever sapphire]

when was the last time you muted someone in assa channel btw? just out of curiosity

[royal lantern]

now THATS something i could get behind

[gusty mirage]

I think my fav part of all the dooming is people think we don't understand the frustrations, we play the class too guys

[strange python]

And give it a chance to reproc after the first proc. Imagine going into a pull if 30 mobs and the Assa rogue just wipes it all with one finisher

[gusty mirage]

but "OMEGALUL NO ROG CHANGEZZ??>!?!?! BLIZZ WTF" for the 1800th time in the month

kinda gets old

and annoying

[royal lantern]

understand it and probably put more thought into it

[balmy condor]

uhhhhhhh

[quiet oar]

Ill tell you

[blazing jewel]

Can you rework us now mr blizzard please I need it for the .7 patch it’s highly impactful

[quiet oar]

When 10.1.7 Drops

[spice spire]

What happened

[quiet oar]

ROGUE BAD WHY NO CHANGE FUCK BLIZZ

[keen spruce]

then they call us blizzard apologists and delusional

[deft flicker]

Funny part is despite all of that we still love the class

[gusty mirage]

like yeah rogue sucks, trust me look at my message history

I'm very vocal about my displeasure

[spice spire]

Pretty sure I was the last

[keen spruce]

when we're really just saying "we agree that we would like some changes, you're just bein a dik head"

[gusty mirage]

but the people getting mad at no 10.1.7 changes are frankly dumb as fuck

[clever sapphire]

just watched the new baki season

[vestal wren]

[gusty mirage]

almost as dumb as the guy who rolled in here 1 week after we got aura buffed and goes "NO ASSA CHANGES? GUESS I'LL STAY UNSUBBED"

[agile osprey]

Worse assa = less assa players = I parse better

Im fine with it either way

[keen spruce]

^

[balmy condor]

the last actual big mute in assa was in april, I muted a guy in wow-general in may

[keen spruce]

now we just need scana to stop so i can ladder up again

[royal lantern]

man, some stuff there is WILD allright

[strange python]

I wouldnt complain if I didn't love the class.

[deft flicker]

Was that the Dieslow going wild??

[gusty mirage]

quake sent someone to perma purgatory for calling me dumb

[blazing jewel]

Tyrannical mods

[runic hinge]

That was my thought as well

[clever sapphire]

you probably will have to step up your game when 10.1.7 drops

[balmy condor]

channel doesn't move fast with nearly enough people for me to be handing out mutes for every deranged take

[drifting cloud]

truth = ban smh

[gusty mirage]

CFs aren't mods bozo

[quiet oar]

Dooming everytime M+ gets mentioned

[keen spruce]

that guy was poppin off

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

We’re not

[gusty mirage]

they're given moderating abilities when you apes don't learn how to behave

but they have zero expectation to moderate anything

[blazing jewel]

That was the dudes 19th schizo rant of the month

[spice spire]

I’m a glorified chatter

[balmy condor]

Im fully prepared to give time outs and slow mode the channel into oblivion at any given moment

[keen spruce]

dogs can't be mods

they don't have thumbs

[gusty mirage]

and ducks can't play wow

checkmate

[deft flicker]

With a bone spike and a George

[blazing jewel]

He’s a dog with glasses though

[subtle tundra]

even me?? 👉 👈

[spice spire]

I too remember 10.0.5.

[gusty mirage]

this channel was on slowmode every other day

[vestal wren]

true

[clever sapphire]

deathspike coming in 10.2, callin it, best ability

[spice spire]

Yeah it was

[runic hinge]

It was wild times

[gusty mirage]

which people got mad about, wild to think about considering they play assassination

they should be used to slowmode

[spice spire]

I don’t think this’ll ever happen

[runic hinge]

I remember like 5 straight days of slow mode happening at some point

[clever sapphire]

werent those the exsang times, so they were used to 3 min "bursts"

[runic hinge]

People just popping off in here

[gusty mirage]

that's what I'm saying

[blazing jewel]

Burst this

[spice spire]

Ok

[clever sapphire]

ah, after i read out loud what i said slowmode made sense xD

[vestal wren]

#outlaw had the most slow modes

[keen spruce]

outlaw gets wild

[runic hinge]

Never been there

[subtle tundra]

good

[blazing jewel]

Outlaw after the cp gen nerf

[keen spruce]

i muted it

[gusty mirage]

made no sense these mfers should be used to afking for 2-3 minutes at a time

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

[blazing jewel]

Was so funny

[agile osprey]

Frankly I'm happy shit pops off here, in my experience the other class discords are far less interesting

[vestal wren]

i could make a slow mode counter for fun, but i think shadows would come at me if i woul do that

[blazing jewel]

I CANT PRESS PISTOL SHOT FOR 12 CP EVERY GLOBAL REEEE

[cobalt hemlock]

i like to thing they added ducks into the game because of platinum wow video just asking why are there no ducks

[balmy condor]

It’s a real issue honestly, people have been getting more and more unhinged over time

[deft flicker]

Chat’s moving too fast so I just wanna say I stabbed a finger with a toothpick, scissors and its own fingernail and now it hurts

[keen spruce]

i've seen some good conspiracy theories about ducks in wow

before this xpac

[blazing jewel]

[vestal wren]

whispyr is correct, we have more extremes now

[quiet oar]

I mean muslce memory was fuked at first tbh

[gusty mirage]

like having to tell someone that typing "lol we should mail him a bomb" isn't okay is troubling AF

[quiet oar]

That felt bad

[agile osprey]

[tight compass]

wtf are people

[keen spruce]

[cobalt hemlock]

is it actually that unhinged what

[gusty mirage]

idk man people getting mad unhinged over numbers on a screen in a video game

[keen spruce]

WoW Karens

[quiet oar]

Did you "rupture" it

[clever sapphire]

okay, so this is a serious question (not). If i tell someone im gonna beacon their home, would that mean tactical nuking them irl?

[subtle tundra]

idk, telling you friday
barbenheimer scheduled for then

[void mesa]

[gusty mirage]

[tight compass]

not if you misspell beacon as bacon

[blazing jewel]

If my green number doesn’t go up I’m mailing Oxi a 3d model of my nuts made out of chunky peanut butter

[keen spruce]

no it's more like throwing a tomato and their house. PvP damage scaling on trinkets yknow

[deft flicker]

Sort of

[clever sapphire]

fack i never write beacon actually, always say bacon

[gusty mirage]

jokes on you I like peanut butter

idiot

thanks for the free food

[blazing jewel]

Yea but who likes chunky

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[quiet oar]

[gusty mirage]

free is free

wtf

[clever sapphire]

ah true it would be pvp, atleast i wont get arrested

[keen spruce]

i'm gonna send oxi an irl puzzle box

[gusty mirage]

imagine never living in poverty scana

[keen spruce]

full of my pubes

[gusty mirage]

check your privilege brother

miami boy

fixing exotic cars

[gusty mirage]

I just got a fresh fade @blazing jewel AMA

[blazing jewel]

Going to sue Oxi for harassment

[clever sapphire]

you know the best part about dooming in assa channel? it always ends with oxi flirting with someone.
Change my mind

[blazing jewel]

Did you get adidas stripes

[gusty mirage]

okay save this screenshot: I will accept discord DMs as a form of electronic service

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/improvise-adapt-overcome-bear-grylls-gif-10468556

[deft flicker]

Or it begins with oxi flirting

[runic hinge]

It’s the circle of life

[deft flicker]

A neverending cycle

[runic hinge]

Or uh doom

[blazing jewel]

Oxi lives in the Midwest so he is within driving distance of Midwest Furfest

[gusty mirage]

I'd never flirt with scana

I can do better

[blazing jewel]

It’s just factual

[cobalt hemlock]

so does that mean i should just doom enough and oxi will flirt with me?

[deft flicker]

Of doom and bloom

[gusty mirage]

if imma flirt with anyone it's 100% @verbal mantle

man's beyond a snack he's a whole ass meal

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-cockateal-loreal-smooth-hair-gif-5715274

[blazing jewel]

Pinging Dadsen in a spec channel

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I could DM him but then I wouldn't be able to make you jealous

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/253265515206803467/1114894944876900363/20230528-192643-571bb606-2bc1-4674-bb2d-c0f39e658637.0.pic.gif

[verbal mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-budgie-buddie-dorito-eating-gif-26296271

[gusty mirage]

[verbal mantle]

[agile osprey]

Oxi just testing the waters with Ravenholdt's HR rn

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-duck-gif-8158518

[deft flicker]

Man I want a cheese braid now

[strange python]

If my sim is telling me to add haste to my build, should I just ignore it and stack more crit/mas? Been seeing a lot of Assa with super low haste doing the biggest numbers.

[clever sapphire]

you do whatever the mighty robot god tells you

[royal lantern]

when the sim overlord tells you haste is good, is probs cus haste is good for you at that point

[quiet oar]

Trust the 🤖

[keen spruce]

lots of people multi spec and crit/mast has the best average coverage

but if robot says haste then just take haste

or don't

it probably doesn't matter that much

[clever sapphire]

also where did you see those assa with super low haste? i didnt see a single assa this season besides in dungeons when lvling

[strange python]

Well I started in BFA, so I never learned to play Sub so trust the bot for Assa damage I suppose.

[keen spruce]

i mean there's probably some old logs

where people were runnin 0% haste

idk i have like 16% now or somethin

[strange python]

Could be old logs I'm seeing. I will do as the bot decides and put double wafting on for ST

[keen spruce]

wait hol up

if you do keys on assas

just go sophic

on weps

unless u have like infinite gold

[strange python]

I'm carrying a large amount of enchants most of the time. It's great selling for convenience in raid.

[royal lantern]

man, i do keys as sub and have the haste enchant cus i cant be assed swapping enchants

[strange python]

I wish I understood how Sub CDs all functioned together. It always feels so clunky to me and things get out of sync fast.

[royal lantern]

you use them on cd

thats it

[gilded oasis]

Just slam em

[royal lantern]

mate

[gilded oasis]

Full send no stop

[clever sapphire]

they dont function at all, thats the secret

[royal lantern]

sub is legit 1 of the easiest specs in the game in DF

[clever sapphire]

sectec cold blood is your only cooldown

[royal lantern]

1 of the biggest mistakes is overthinking stuff

just slam on cd

[clever sapphire]

anything else is just for visuals so you get the "omg i did dmg"

[spice spire]

Only thing I’m slamming is the block button on all you sub mfs

[royal lantern]

i can be a dom for you

[clever sapphire]

i legit did more dmg getting an echo proc than when i slammed all my cooldowns on sub

[spice spire]

Bottom if i’ve ever seen one

[royal lantern]

yes

[gusty mirage]

zar heir to the void when????

[gilded oasis]

Hahahaha you funny

Give us about 2 months and a round of nerfs

Saw the beginning of p2 once. 5 melee and 3 healers and tanks were alive

Maybe 2 healers

[gusty mirage]

I believe you'll lead them to victory

[spice spire]

Krill issue

[gilded oasis]

Ill do my best

[gusty mirage]

I'll try to sneak into your stream and send you good juju

[gilded oasis]

Unfortunately no one listens to my ideas or suggestions or rants

[gusty mirage]

sin rogue problems

no one listens to us ever

[gilded oasis]

True

[spice spire]

That activated my fight or flight on the spot

Sorry

Try that again

[clever sapphire]

[blazing jewel]

[exotic hazel]

Are Fang Adornments worth crafting onto my weapon?

[spice spire]

No

[frozen iris]

Nope

[blazing jewel]

[exotic hazel]

Which embellishment should I go for?

[frozen iris]

Toxic boots plus toxifies patch on bracers. The asssassination faq has this info as well

[spice spire]

We have a lovely #assassination-faq for all tips tricks and general questions

[slim hamlet]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/bis-gear beautiful site made by our savior

[gilded oasis]

Monka

[exotic hazel]

Yeah well asking got my answer too ya sarcastic fucks 😂

Thanks a bunch 😄

[blazing jewel]

[slim hamlet]

What Scana said

[gilded oasis]

Wasn't whispyr just shit talking that BIS list

[clever sapphire]

you turn to sarcasm after you see the same questions every day

[slim hamlet]

Yea but it has embellish

which was the question

[clever sapphire]

ah the wowhead bis list is shit because he has to fill the bis list with items out of that content

[exotic hazel]

Maybe turn off the discord for a day and breath a sigh of relief 😂

[gilded oasis]

I can't type my fucking fingers are frozen. Nerf this AC

[slim hamlet]

The bis list is just everything with mastery and crit no?

[clever sapphire]

me personally still answer everything when im in the mood or its not answered for a while

[slim hamlet]

When puzzle box @clever sapphire

[clever sapphire]

or i just hit the person with or

[spice spire]

Wait what was sarcastic there

[clever sapphire]

i think its still sitting in my bank

surely its gonna be busted because of a bug one day

[slim hamlet]

I kept it in my bags

my love

[deft flicker]

DC that AC

[clever sapphire]

caster rogue when

[royal lantern]

cease

[slim hamlet]

Also keeping my heroic storm eaters

just in case

[clever sapphire]

i already felt like a caster with grieftorch in pugs last season

[clever sapphire]

ye me too, i love that trinket

[slim hamlet]

hm

what would a 4th rogue spec be

[strange python]

Let's just change Outlaw to a ranged spec that uses Bows/Guns so Hunters have more gear competition.

[slim hamlet]

say they wanted to make supp spec for rogue

Poison buffs for sure

Maybe the thing outlaw had with cdr in df ptr

[frozen iris]

There’s a manwha I read that has a character with that premise

[slim hamlet]

manwha

wtf is manwha

[frozen iris]

Korean manga

[slim hamlet]

oh

But actually rogue could have a sick support spec

[clever sapphire]

i was already stealing all the bows and guns for transmog last season

fully prepared for that

[deft flicker]

Rogue used to have stuff like Expose Armor

[clever sapphire]

i wanna support the enemies so i can kill all those pesky fotm players

[slim hamlet]

^

[strange python]

A cannon barrage aoe that's like rain of fire/Blizzard. Pistol shot and between the eyes still get to exist.

Could be fun

[slim hamlet]

But you both have things that makes sense to buff your team, and also debuff the enemy

damn now I want it

[strange python]

I've written this up along with a healer spec a while back. It was before the new talent system though. There's some really cool things that can be done with either

[slim hamlet]

Healer rogue

[frozen iris]

Alchemist spec

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[slim hamlet]

Would be kinda cool yea

[royal lantern]

i mean, you guys realise that the rogue class tree doesnt allow a "support" rn right

[slim hamlet]

I feel like it would be hard making a different ability than just "use pot"

but im not creative

[strange python]

Melee healing with thrown vials for pool heals, buffs/debuffs via venoms or poisons, double int daggers on healer to make casters cry.

[royal lantern]

and

blizzard should just delete the idea anyway

[blazing jewel]

Atrophic best support talent right

[royal lantern]

biggest mistake they did

I HOPE YOU SEE THAT BLIZZ

[strange python]

Fan of Syringes

[slim hamlet]

not happening

too many casuals loving it

unlucky

[deft flicker]

Cannonball Barrage, a talent from Legion??

[strange python]

Not rn, but that doesn't mean it can't change in a rework.

[slim hamlet]

I would like for support to be a thing, if it worked with deatils/logs correctly (which significantly reduces the amount of unique spells they can make) and if they had like minimum 5 supp specs

[royal lantern]

nah

fuck "support"

death of the game

[slim hamlet]

why

if it doesn't matter to you

but other like

I don't see a reason not to like it, or at least not hate it

[strange python]

Aug is a ton of fun to play and is a lot of fun to have in group for bigger numbers. I enjoy the implementation so far.

[slim hamlet]

Haven't tried it

doesn't look fun to me

[clever sapphire]

make all healers support

then im fine with support specs

[slim hamlet]

And I don't know if it's fun to play with, right now it's "fun" because its so omega op that you can just roll your face in 3 keys higher than your normal key level

actually don't know how much a difference the change they did made

[strange python]

You get to play a mini game of upkeep the Ebon Might or keep the party alive. It's a lot of utility. But if your DPS for, you're useless

[slim hamlet]

Haven't done a key with thme yet

[strange python]

The nerf didn't do too much. The numbers are a bit lower, but it plays the same overall

[royal lantern]

because it turns the game even MORE into "2 classes are the protagonist, everyone else just exists for mandatory buffs"

inc

if we get more "supports"

[slim hamlet]

yeah it sucks that some classes just works 20x better with others

[royal lantern]

the raidcomp will be "tank/healers, dps specs that bring mandatory raidbuffs and then stack "supports" for mage/warlock"

[slim hamlet]

which is why there would need to be minimum 5 of them for it to work mo

[strange python]

Hence why it's now capped to 5 max on any one person

[clever sapphire]

hunters are complaining that they dont have a spot. Give them a support spec where their pets run around the players and give them some drinks or whatever

[slim hamlet]

But anyways, with the changes it seems like they want it to be more of a dps than support anyways

[royal lantern]

+every class that will get a "support" will see its normal dps options beeing dead by default if blizzard wants "supports" to do the same dmg as a normal dps

[royal lantern]

ah yes

the good free 5 raidspots you have

oh wait

you dont

[strange python]

They are not good in raid. They are very good in keys.

[slim hamlet]

yea

arent they like mediocre in raids

[strange python]

You probably only want 1-2 augs in raid max

[slim hamlet]

or have I missed something

[royal lantern]

"you only want 2 mandatory supports"

cool

very cool

[slim hamlet]

6 man dungeons 1 supp 1 tonk 1 healer 3 dps

yes

[royal lantern]

🙂

[spice surge]

Theyre far from mandatory for raid

Very far

[slim hamlet]

i dont see how 2 supps is bad for a full raid team if there are more than one support

biggest issue is there is only 1 of them

imo

[strange python]

Agreed.

[royal lantern]

also very cool that the mage/warlock can drool on the keyboard even more and you will never be close to them, you just exist for your raid buff

feels very nice to not be a actual dps anymore, just a spreadsheet mark that gets filled

[clever sapphire]

it would be 2 supp, 1 dps, 1 SP to PI the 1 dps

[swift moss]

if you have a even half decent dk + lock combo double aug is top dps by like 10k

[spice surge]

Theyre a dps, if they do more dps than other dps they are good

If not theyre not good

[slim hamlet]

Besides in m+

[royal lantern]

even if they do the same dps, they are too good

[slim hamlet]

where they bring so much extra stuff

[royal lantern]

way to much group survivalbility

[slim hamlet]

that they can be lower dps and still get inv

[swift moss]

• 20k healing and armor for tanks

[royal lantern]

if aug and dev do the same group dps

aug will ALWAYS be better

cool balance

[slim hamlet]

Just like how rogues was good even when they did less dmg than many other specs in m+

[spice surge]

No?

[slim hamlet]

what

[royal lantern]

what has dev that aug doesnt have?

same base evoker stuff+more things

[strange python]

Damage

[spice surge]

Different damage profile

And damage

[slim hamlet]

what

[spice surge]

Imagine second boss of shadowmoon

Or something similar as aug

For example

[strange python]

You don't have the same kit on Aug. You have some parts of it, but nowhere near the same kit.

[slim hamlet]

there is no shot dev is picked over aug if they do same overall

[royal lantern]

it woudl have healer add hp eleem

[slim hamlet]

if we still talking m+

[royal lantern]

lets be honest lol

so they can kill it

[spice surge]

Were talking raid

Or atleast i am

[royal lantern]

shadowmoon and raid?

[spice surge]

Yes, mechanics that happen in dungeon can happen in raid

And vice versa

[strange python]

Assa is even a good target for Aug buffs. It's a good thing to have at least 1 in raid.

[slim hamlet]

hmm

[spice surge]

Thats like saying assa is always better than sub because it has burst (st)

[royal lantern]

except you wont get buffed

it stays in ranged group lol

[slim hamlet]

Augvoker has to minmax a lot of shit in raids afaik

so maybe there I could see devoker being brought, but still the raid being so much more tanky just because of aug

[strange python]

Get a better Aug player. Ours stays in between and moves during the fight. I'm getting Ebon Might several times through every fight.

[spice surge]

Its not group based

[strange python]

It's "technically" considered ranged for mechanics. But they realistically will be moving all over the place and buffing different people. High burst DPS benefit a lot from the big primary bump.

440 Aug gives about 2000+ primary during Ebon Might

400k Envenoms feel great.

[royal lantern]

yes, main buff is proximity, and they sure as hell wont change 24/7 bettwen ranged and melee for the "optimal buff uptime" when they can just afk in ranged and buff the ussual suspects for 0,5% less "performance"

[strange python]

Sounds like you have a lazy dragon. Some people don't play the spec to just AFK, some are actually trying to buff the team as best they can.

[royal lantern]

• you know, ranged targeted mechanics

[strange python]

During those windows, sure they can sit in ranged and buff the warlocks. But once the ranged targeted mechanics stop, they can buff strong melee with high burst too. A good Aug will mix with both groups for better damage for the group.

[keen spruce]

ain't no lizard

moving around a raid grou

p

to optimize buffs

[strange python]

Ours does

[keen spruce]

show log

fake news

lizard propoganda

[royal lantern]

thats some "pool for toxicblade so you have 3x envenom" stuff

cool, sure

EVERYONE will do that

and it will totally make a difference

[spice surge]

2 out of 4 are ye

[keen spruce]

gib logs monty

[keen spruce]

that's a screenshot not a log

[strange python]

Ebon Might on 1 pull Rashok

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CVmXhpTtBKGzPnLf/
Pull 18. Ours starts in melee, then moves to ranged. Then goes back and forth

[keen spruce]

wait hol up

[fleet pagoda]

I respect people who even remember those phials exist

[keen spruce]

idk why i asked for this log

i have no ideas how evokers work

[spice spire]

This is ur shtick

[strange python]

[keen spruce]

but his ass is using that phial

[royal lantern]

killed mythic zskarn

3 bombs dropped

I SMELL A DISPENSER COMMING

[keen spruce]

ayoooo

[fleet pagoda]

anybody elses' TopGear/GearCompare sims insist on higher haste? I'm at like 1800 and I can't get away from it without simming lower

[royal lantern]

bro

its re-clear

we are CE lol

[keen spruce]

oh yeah

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

i forgot ur a gamer

[royal lantern]

cus haste is a decent stat for assa and you probs have a shitton of crit/mastery allready

[strange python]

Mine sims the same

[fleet pagoda]

I have maybe 4.4k crit and 4k mastery i'd assume both would be desired a bit higher still. does the call to suffering skew things in favor of haste?

[burnt latch]

The trinkets not hasted since ptr iirc

[fleet pagoda]

unbuffed* i guess a little over 5k crit in sims

[strange python]

I'm running Anvil and Bomb Dispenser. It still wants me to get haste.

[royal lantern]

has nothing to do with trinkets

its litearlly

haste is decent for assa

thats it

@blazing jewel

[strange python]

Grats!

[fleet pagoda]

[keen spruce]

haste is gud stat

[runic hinge]

I have like 20% haste now

[strange python]

I agree, I was just making the comparison that trinkets arent the reason why it's telling him to get haste

[keen spruce]

oh i replied to the wrong person

i don't read gud

[runic hinge]

I can regem from haste/mastery to mastery/haste for 8 dps

[strange python]

Big ups

[keen spruce]

i will report my optimal gems momentarily

[strange python]

It's haste/mas for me

[deft flicker]

Asking what gems people use is the modern version of moms asking us to wear sweaters because they feel cold

[keen spruce]

more like telling people to change the charms on their crocs to improve their 100m sprint times

[deft flicker]

What’s the base speed in the game in m/s??

Can we run a sprint while Sprint is active??

[keen spruce]

speed is measured in teemo's per fortnight

[deft flicker]

[deft flicker]

I’ll need my freedom converter

But like it’s not 10

Or is it

Are we just beeg af

[keen spruce]

[deft flicker]

Nah it can’t be

But also we can close the distance to casters very quickly

[keen spruce]

you just get a 40yard class

have then stand at max range

[keen spruce]

then time yourself running from them to the target dummy

[runic hinge]

Might be worth

[keen spruce]

it just wants me to change my epic gem to mastery

i will not be doing that

[deft flicker]

Also melee zone is like 4.5m

Which still feels small

So everyone must just be beeg af

[keen spruce]

yeah acrobatic strikes adding 3m

is kinda wild

if you think about it

lol

[deft flicker]

My dwarf is probably 8m tall atp

[royal lantern]

acro is like what?

almost 50% range increase?

[deft flicker]

+3

60%

[royal lantern]

ye, its insane

and a drug

[deft flicker]

Omegatrue

[royal lantern]

pick it once, cant go without it anymore

[deft flicker]

Flying daggers 20m FoK was funny

[keen spruce]

fentynal strikes

[deft flicker]

Hope the rework makes it more accessible

Well, for those 2-3 outlaw builds that have to sacrifice big damage talents for it

Others seem to have no issue taking it

[keen spruce]

wacky waving inflatable arm pirate

was my favorite part of s1

standing on the outer ring of wise mari

I just took the 3-5% damage hit

inappropriately long arms are priceless

[royal lantern]

outlaw not having acro is criminal

[deft flicker]

We have Deft in spec tree, but that’s not really takeable either (and requires flurry)

Also the vibes of bears with 15m attack range in Torghast

[ebon lichen]

Can anyone educate me on how echoing reprimand works? I’ve read the wowhead guide which just says to use the charges? Do I have to have exactly the number of combo points as the “charged “ one is on, or so long as I have a charged one in my total combo points I can send a finisher?

[void mesa]

You need to match the number. So when you use ER, you get the 2-3-4 animacharged, meaning that if you have one of those (2-3-4) combo points and send a finisher, it will count as 7 and remove the animacharge

[keen spruce]

basically ER lights up 3 cp

if you use a finisher on that number of CP

it eats the charge and pretends its max cp

[ebon lichen]

By 2-3-4, does that mean it can be one of those 3, but not all of them? So if it’s on two, I need to hit 2 CP to activate the 7pt finisher?

[keen spruce]

all of them

so you have 3 different opportunities

to get a 7cp finisher

any of them*

so you ER rupture in your opener

[fleet pagoda]

you'll know you'v'e used the charge because the blue shading goes away and it'll be red/normal again

[keen spruce]

that will eat one of them

[void mesa]

Are you using the talent after ER?

[keen spruce]

then you just keep doin your normal opener/rotation

[ebon lichen]

All of them at once, or individually? When I check my combo point WA for example it shows combo point #2 as blue, however i can use 3 or 4 CP as the activated one?

[keen spruce]

and if you land on one

[keen spruce]

you're using the wrong talent below ER

[ebon lichen]

Ahhh ok that makes sense then. Thank you guys. I was super confused practicing last night lol

[keen spruce]

reverberation is for pvp normally

[royal lantern]

the talent is actually extremely simple tbh

[ebon lichen]

And just for clarity, you only get one charge of these enhanced combo points? Once you use it you wait for it to be off cooldown before you get another set?

[keen spruce]

yeah

[spice spire]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

so every time you ER you get 3 bonks

[void mesa]

I think having the WA + the wrong talent made it look way more confusing than it needed

[royal lantern]

like, you use it at 0Cp when ready and instantly send a finisher cus you will be at 2 or 3 cp from ER cast alone

and then just use the finisher you would normaly use whenever you hit a charged cp

[keen spruce]

but they're available

until your next ER

[ebon lichen]

Awesome. Thank y’all.

[spice spire]

And it’s better to not force them with like fok or whatever.

[keen spruce]

so you'll almost always use them all just by playin normally

you don't need to target them

[spice spire]

99% of the time you hit them naturally

Yeah

[fleet pagoda]

if you manage to not use them all before ER is off CD again, it'll dismiss the charges you have not used yet, too.

[keen spruce]

ye

[spice spire]

One brain cell, the duck and the dog

[ebon lichen]

Ya I think the wrong talent thing was confusing the hell out of me.

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-duck-bestfriends-pet-oops-gif-17530844

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Me and @keen spruce irl

[runic hinge]

Too cute on god

[keen spruce]

classic shmeeps rubbin his nuts on quakes ear

[spice spire]

Why you gotta ruin it

[keen spruce]

classic quake carrying shmeeps

there

https://tenor.com/view/ducky-puppy-dog-duck-bestfriends-gif-23347868

[spice spire]

Nah I’m

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-duck-dog-climb-flag-gif-16417051

ayo why are there so many dog/duck gifs

[deft flicker]

Two great tastes that taste great together

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/babysit-besties-bff-cute-animals-adorable-gif-14224934

[deft flicker]

[keen spruce]

o this one look kinda like quake dog

[runic hinge]

[strange python]

how do you parse on echo

the ads die so fast now

[thin scroll]

I got a 95 heroic parse on echo by being one of the few surviving dps on p3 and getting lucky with poison bomb procs with a ton of adds

So, kill your friends

[strange python]

was thinking mythic but yea maybe ill just kill my friends

[thin scroll]

It's their fault for doing so much aoe dmg

[royal lantern]

same way you parse on all fights

be lucky with procs

[spice spire]

Beacon the lock, trust

[void mesa]

Does friendly fire count on overall dmg? Asking for a friend

[jovial verge]

I am progging Echo at the moment, killing it tomorrow most likely, I swear my damage on it feels so random

granted I am using beacon/class trinket

but I go from big pumper

to big sadder

[agile osprey]

I like to cc our lock's demons

[strange python]

[spice spire]

Yes actually

But sbs falls off once they’re no longer corrupted

I’ve tested the dark tech

[void mesa]

Did you really try to sbs your whole raid

I was thinking 1 point CT memeries xd

[spice spire]

Yes

[royal lantern]

you do consitent dmg on p1-p2

and then gamble on PB procs during adds in p3

and, well

the ussual

"does sophic proc? does beacon crit? does class trinket proc?"

[keen spruce]

if you beacon the boss during MCs

the splash will also almost kill people

[polar cape]

Thats when you target an MC and hard comit instead of woopsie it cleave off boss

[jovial verge]

I struggle with timings a little p2, lose a lot of damage their

we push p1 really fast now and always have to stop damage, so deathmark timing feels akward as well

but yeah when I don't mess up P3 is usually where its just all over the place with praying for procs

[warm sleet]

Is Sin full crit/mastery for raid or do you want some haste?

[frozen iris]

Sim it

It’s the best/easiest way to find out

[keen spruce]

robot answers all but normally some haste will be good

[warm sleet]

thanks, I'm trying out Sin for Zskarn prog

[soft shale]

that will be rough

[keen spruce]

full crit mast is fine though

if that's what you're wearin

[soft shale]

just remember you can shadowstep to people instead of boss if his ass is on fire

[gusty mirage]

shit boss

[soft shale]

or the lines are coming down

[gusty mirage]

actually the worst boss ever fucking made

[keen spruce]

nerfed zskarn not that bad

[soft shale]

also you can survive up to 2 stacks with feint

[keen spruce]

only moderately cringe now

[gusty mirage]

nerfed zskarn is still a shit boss

[soft shale]

annoying

for sure

[gusty mirage]

it's just throwing a bow on a piece of shit

and saying "look how pretty it is now"

[warm sleet]

its an awful boss

im not having fun

[gusty mirage]

fuck that boss

and fuck whoever thought it'd be cool

[keen spruce]

let's make the adds go CC immune for no reason but to annoy everyone

let's make them have to click on a dead add

[gusty mirage]

absolutely dogshit

[keen spruce]

then click on a trap

then use an extra action button

[gusty mirage]

the saddest part of zskarn

the mechanics are cool individually

but it's like taking a wagyu steak and putting it in a blender

[balmy condor]

oxi wake up new fkbambam

[warm sleet]

its like they are purposefully trolling us with these mechanics. I'd rather have M painsmith with a really scripted fight that is at least consistent

[gusty mirage]

[keen spruce]

scripted fights are fun

if they're technically challenging

[gusty mirage]

GUAP

[balmy condor]

GUAP GUAP GUAP GUAP GUAP

[gusty mirage]

yeah the overlaps are almost as horrendous as the dev crying on twitter that people cheesed his terrible boss

[quiet oar]

All that Things with dev and how they handled the Boss

Was so bad

[gusty mirage]

200 odd guilds cheese the boss

"LETS FIX IT MID WEEK"

like oh okay

[quiet oar]

It was almost the worst decision

I dont think you could have chosen a worse out come for this

[gusty mirage]

or how about you eat the L

and just accept the boss sucks

[frigid kestrel]

Proggin on this shit now and confused that CoS is damn near useless

[quiet oar]

Just the RNG

The Group bait rather than boss bait

And nasty fucking overlaps