assassination

[balmy condor]

If you fail singing you actually can’t get a degree

[gusty mirage]

"You're a lawyer is this legal in my state?"

like bro idk

[balmy condor]

Same with piano

Everyone’s gotta play piano

It’s just a core skill for music majors

[gusty mirage]

good, piano's sick

[balmy condor]

(I cannot play the piano)

[blazing jewel]

I would get a name change and make a new disc account after that

[sharp falcon]

0% crit?

[royal lantern]

is murder legal in my state

[gusty mirage]

in my totally unbiased take on piano (I played piano growing up)

[gusty mirage]

idk everything's legal in germany it seems

[royal lantern]

actually 49% with flask and runes

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

49% crit on 4000 targets and 0 crits

Brb

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

also what kind of pulls are your tanks doing in keys

god damn

are they pulling 4 dungeons?

[royal lantern]

you know those situations whisp man

[spice spire]

Fok simulator

[gusty mirage]

in one pull?

[wooden radish]

if FOK gained more CP depending on the number of targets you hit like how SS (sub) works, it could definitely make it easier to spread ruptures

but we have IC now for that

[royal lantern]

then its just ss, that would be stupid

[balmy condor]

Uh oh I don’t have a calculator that can do that many sigfigs

Uh

[loud light]

just pull one of those trees in brackenhide and afk til there are 4000 lashers

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

[royal lantern]

it should somewhat play into assassinations thing

[earnest remnant]

i want oxi to sing me to sleep

[wooden radish]

well not sure what else you'd want if you want it to give more than 1 cp

[royal lantern]

and not be "SS 2.0, the non-weeb version"

[gusty mirage]

sorry gotta churn out side quest guides for d4 bro

time is money friend

[earnest remnant]

[blazing jewel]

I heard he’s really good at singing payphone after listening to it for hours on sark

[spice spire]

On sark?

[gusty mirage]

and nelth*

[earnest remnant]

i listened to it with him

[spice spire]

Man’s listening on echoes

[spice surge]

💵 💵

[royal lantern]

oh god, did i made whisp do math

[gusty mirage]

whispyr does it to himself

it's not your fault

[balmy condor]

1.91 E-1170% chance to not crit on 4000 targets with 49% crit chance

[royal lantern]

IT WAS JUST AN EXEGARATED EXAMPLE MAN

[blazing jewel]

Write that down write that down

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

hyperbole is not welcome here

[drifting cloud]

@earnest remnant when are u 3 healing sark

kill some bosses fast

[earnest remnant]

no clue

[gusty mirage]

the man procs cheat on p1 clears, they're already 3 healing it essentially

[spice spire]

2 healing*

[gusty mirage]

oh

I thought you tagged whispyr

my b

[spice spire]

[drifting cloud]

kinda toxic

[earnest remnant]

we did something funny today

we stacked Amalgamation

on pull

[spice spire]

How did that go?

[earnest remnant]

uhh

fine?

[blazing jewel]

I bet your two target went crazy

[earnest remnant]

its only like 200% dmg increase

[gusty mirage]

dw @blazing jewel I'll stream reclear next week so you can see the shit show and laugh

you'll get your laughs in dw

[royal lantern]

"just cloak it bro"

[spice spire]

Boss devs when they see colour cheesing their work 4 months after launch punching the air rn

[blazing jewel]

Dude my guild did the speed strat on assault and forgot to soak the door TWICE

[gusty mirage]

back to back to back to back to back hall of famers btw

[drifting cloud]

hardly a speed strat if he lives to slam it 2nd time!

[earnest remnant]

only think we with stacking amalgamation is that

[blazing jewel]

It’s because I wasn’t in clearly

[earnest remnant]

you get hit by something

u dead

[blazing jewel]

No I meant they wiped and then died to the same thing the second time

[balmy condor]

Alternatively it would be a 1 in 1910000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance

[drifting cloud]

oh

[balmy condor]

Oh I missed a backspace

[spice spire]

O

[gusty mirage]

so tryan should play the lotto

got it

[loud light]

so you're saying he needs more crit

[blazing jewel]

I am once again asking for AP to spread dots to shived targets

[royal lantern]

hey, thats the same dropchance some items in monsterhunter have

[balmy condor]

Shut the fuck up kyle

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

124 zinogre kills and no skygem btw

i hate you capcom

[earnest remnant]

git gud

[blazing jewel]

Kill lizard smh

[sharp falcon]

so assuming 1 fok per second, how long past the heat death of the universe to get 1cp on a fok with 49% crit into 4000 enemies (on average)

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Hmmmm

[spice spire]

9.1 actually

(The patch)

[blazing jewel]

Tryan getting grilled right now

[royal lantern]

im used to it

dont worry

[balmy condor]

god damnit man

[royal lantern]

sark firebreath grilled my ass tonight allready a couple times

[balmy condor]

I just want one programmer to bend the laws of their programming language and not integer overflow

is that so much to ask for

[gusty mirage]

is NAN seconds like naan bread?

[blazing jewel]

[gusty mirage]

because naan bread is delicious

[spice spire]

Ur delicious

[gusty mirage]

I'm telling your wife

[blazing jewel]

And George

[spice spire]

She knows

He doesn’t, he’s too dumb

[balmy condor]

no NAN is like your grandmother, lovely lady, makes a mean humus

[royal lantern]

just like me

[spice spire]

Just like me

Ong

[gusty mirage]

I've met my grandmothers once each in my life, 16 years ago

[runic hinge]

Just like me fr fr

[gusty mirage]

one of them had bad alzheimers and didn't recognize me

sad times

sorry

26 years ago

time flies when you're a depressed millennial

[royal lantern]

i was about to sleep and you give me depression

[spice spire]

Amen brethren

[gusty mirage]

yeah

I know

[sharp falcon]

"you also twist the blade, causing all of your Bleed effects to advance by 2 sec, triggering an instant tick."

is this the relevant portion of SC that you're referring to in this case

[balmy condor]

realz what kind of hell hole have you led me down

[gusty mirage]

the people who asked

oh

I thought he was gonna dunk on me

[balmy condor]

yes

[gusty mirage]

this is awkward now

[blazing jewel]

Tryan there are lots of people willing to sing a lullaby

[balmy condor]

google is just giving me 0 results now

I'm scared

[sharp falcon]

you pulled back the veil

the gods of our simulation don't want you to know the truth

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

personal achievment of the month: did a hyperbole that resulted in whisp getting scared

[balmy condor]

you get 100 tradepost dubloons for that one

or whatever they're called

[gusty mirage]

I need more

[royal lantern]

im sitting at 5k man

[gusty mirage]

so I can get my scorpion mount

[balmy condor]

idk my quest is still bugged I can't access the post

[gusty mirage]

someone help pls

[balmy condor]

they told me to talk to a guy during the intro quest and I guess he didn't want to hear it

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

aight this is actually getting silly

[royal lantern]

allright, getting some sleep

whisp, stop chasing it, or i will silently edit the number to something bigger

[balmy condor]

it would actually be easier with a bigger number cause I could simplify this is a googolplex

but it's not big enough for that atm

an a centillion is too small

[gusty mirage]

is this what you do before raid every time?

[balmy condor]

yeah

kinda

[gusty mirage]

I liked it better when you sent me weird tiktoks

[balmy condor]

WAIT

I will do it by hand

[blazing jewel]

Send him the ferret crossing the mountain

That’s a classic

[runic hinge]

So tru bestie

[balmy condor]

or maybe like

some recursion

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

isn't there some way to exponentiate through squares

[shy pecan]

Ask Lorentz, he should know

Is this what a daily life in the sin channel is? Calculating ridiculous probabilities?

[tacit otter]

same nonsense, less iq i would say

[balmy condor]

aight well

we got to 1.156e1057 heat-deaths of the universe

it's very difficult to shrink that number into something that can be conceptualized

[cunning needle]

can you put that in scale of bananas?

[sharp falcon]

admittedly this was the reason behind the question, even if a somewhat silly question... number was so small my brain wants to think "very small chance" even when I know "zero" is closer to reality. It's still absurd, just slightly easier to have some context

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

I'm working the angle of "possible ways to order every grain of sand on earth" atm

[sharp falcon]

oh no

[cerulean nest]

can someone remind me the epic defensive setup for magmorax?

elusiveness?

[uncut isle]

Does anyone know how Echoing Reprimand works? Does it basically mean I only need to fill up combo points until it occupies the supercharged slots?

[balmy condor]

it empowers the "slot"

so you get to a blue slot

use a finisher

it eats the empowerment, makes a big finisher

so like if the second slot is empowered, you get a total of 2 combo points

and then you finish

if you have 3 combo points you overshot it and it wouldn't be empowered

[uncut isle]

Ahh! That makes sense. So when I'm doing the rotation, i gotta make sure my combo points don't exceed the blue slots?

[balmy condor]

you play as you would normally

and if you land on one

you would finish

[uncut isle]

alright! thanks for the help!

[sharp falcon]

Follow-up Q for Crimson Tempest - Which are you? (Elaborate as to why, if you so desire!)

A: "I like using CT in single target."
B: "I do not like using CT in single target."
C: "None of the above, your question is dumb, and I can explain why..."

[ebon temple]

@balmy condor did you ever figure out corrupting vs vers from last night?

[balmy condor]

B

[balmy condor]

was there something to figure out

[sharp falcon]

I don't normally try to infuse my opinion into these types of things, but this time I'll make a note that i'm "B", but it's a soft preference, i don't HATE using CT single target and can understand why some might find it interesting. Just a preference

[tacit otter]

i would say im also a soft B. i dont mind using it in st but in my imaginary world where i'd use kingsbane, maybe sepsis etc. i have no desire to use ct in st

[ebon temple]

i just saw someone post vers vs corrupting sims and you said you were gonna look at stuff

mb if it was just kinda nothing

[balmy condor]

oh yeah that's just cause paul has good gear

there's nothing special about corrupting or vers

corrupting blows vers out of the water in terms of damage

[gusty mirage]

@tacit otter I solved the sim fuckery btw

all it cost me was $25 for a race change

[tacit otter]

whispyr how does the uptime of crit phial work in sims? just chooses randomly where the procc is or how?

[tacit otter]

from what to what?

[gusty mirage]

nelf to velf

now toxic thorns sims higher

[tacit otter]

significantly higher?

[keen spruce]

welcome to velf

[gusty mirage]

-200 to +100

so kinda yeah

[keen spruce]

huuuuuge

[gusty mirage]

300 dps swing

idk how or why

I did it for the tmog, none of my tmog sets looked right on nelf

[tacit otter]

also mast/vers recraft?

[gusty mirage]

nope

[drifting cloud]

[gusty mirage]

that's with vers phial too

roughly even w/ crit phial

[ornate zodiac]

what do you guys macro Bomb dispenser to?

[gusty mirage]

I have it macro'd to shiv

because I'm lazy

not recommended

[keen spruce]

shift+2

[blazing jewel]

I think mine is on 6 for sin

and shift 5 on sub

[tacit otter]

with crit

that yours is even with that is just funny

[gusty mirage]

yeah I give up on making it make sense

I just shove this spark up my ass or just craft a 447 oh

to use until I get a sark dagger

[blazing jewel]

are all your other slots 447

because your oh is a cosmetic item

[gusty mirage]

OH is 0.2 dps

only things bigger are chest/cloak

[blazing jewel]

does oh gain more value on sin

because of mut

[gusty mirage]

prolly

idk

also I'm not simming crit phial anymore

[blazing jewel]

I know for sub its basically the worst slot due to having low stat budget

[gusty mirage]

fuck you alchemists and your snake oil

wat

[drifting cloud]

booooooooo

[gusty mirage]

it has "low stat budget" because OH weapon dps also matters a bit

[drifting cloud]

im now cloak + crit phial + toxic boots gamer

506k hp

[gusty mirage]

huge

[drifting cloud]

maybe speed instead of stam on boots?

[gusty mirage]

I'd have to drop engi for alchemy on my rogue for me to even consider using crit phial

and I'm not doing that

I like all my old school toys

whispyr's been typing and stopping for a while

should we be worried

[drifting cloud]

can I stop exploding so I can get 75 alchemy

[gusty mirage]

I've been trying to experiment corrupting rage on my pally

for the last 2 weeks

and I just keep exploding lmao

[sweet dawn]

Muti and envenom

[balmy condor]

okay well, I have a way to conceptualize it now but you're not going to like it.

The time it takes for you to not crit on 4000 targets with a fok at 49% crit chance, is roughly equal to the following situation:

If you conceptualize one heat death's worth of time, which is 1.7e106 years, as a single card in a regular deck of playing cards. You then you take 9 decks of these playing cards, and shuffle them together. You then give one of these mega decks to every grain of sand. But not every grain of sand on earth, every grain on sand in the universe, if every planet in the universe had an earths amount of sand. And then each of these cosmic grains of sand shuffled their deck of heat-death cards at a rate of 1000 times a second, until the heat death of this universe. And you then believe in the multiverse theory and repeat this sand-heatdeath-shuffling-until-heatdeath experiment across an amount of universes equal to total amount of unique combinations to arrange every particle in the universe in a straight line. And then if you as the god of this unholy experiment perceived the heatdeath of any one of these unique-combination universes of heatdeath-card-shuffling-cosmic-sand-grains in a single second, and you lived for a heatdeaths amount of god time.

Then, and only then, would you have a number that is 600 digits long instead of the previous 1057

I also have to raid now

so

that kinda cut it short

[sharp falcon]

monka

[ember mural]

[sharp falcon]

god bless, and next time feel free to tell me to fuck off LOL

[blazing jewel]

this is what happens when whisypr doesnt want to do sark in an hour

[balmy condor]

also I didn't do my maplestory dailies

and in trying to calculate how many ways you could arrange grains of sand, I found out it would take my computer 1200 years

so I had to take a different route

[thick sail]

Guys

Deadly Poison shouldn't be a talent

[spice spire]

Tell your local friendly rogue dev to fuck off

(This is a joke if any of you do that, I’ll sternly talk to you)

[thick sail]

Are they like, ever gonna do anything to assassination? I heard we were getting a flat % buff to all offensive abilities, did that go through already? I don't see any assassination changes in the 10.5.1 patch notes

[balmy condor]

yep that already happened

we're getting rogue talent changes in 10.2

[thick sail]

God. Jeebus. Oh! Well that's fun news

So we're on the horizon then!

[strange python]

I want a stern talking to but don't want to insult realz. What do

[balmy condor]

haven't you had enough of those

[strange python]

😦

[balmy condor]

too soon?

[strange python]

It's been awhile

[balmy condor]

chasing the high

I get it

[thick sail]

Can they like...

Put Blindside in a better spot so more builds can take it?

Make Doomblade less garbage?

Move Acrobatic Strikes up the tree so more builds can take it?

Make Find Weakness not a completely garbage talent for Assassination? I love Shadow Dance, but taking like, 3 gimp talents in a row makes taking it really hard to justify

Put Iron Wire in a less idiotic spot?

Do something to Arterial Precision to make it viable?

Make Flying Daggers -- a talent further down the tree -- better than Thrown Precision, which is almost the exact same talent, just objectively better (and earlier in the tree)?

Make Improved Poisons 7% and 1 talent point?

Give Venom Rush and Fatal Concoction multiple access nodes so we're not pigeonholed into specific (often unexciting) talents in order to get fun ones?

Also maybe, delete Internal Bleeding and Intent to Kill and replace them with something desirable?

Alacrity either needs a significant nerf, or they need to buff the crap out of Lethality, if my intuition is correct

It also sucks that the bottom of the rogue class tree paths are all straight lines. Many other classes have multiple decision point options. Ours is just like, "hurr durr, you want Echoing Reprimand and you don't want Recuperator? Too bad, fuck off"

Also wild that the two options of our class ultimate node is "make Echoing Reprimand really good and significantly change your rotation, or waste a talent point"

Could maybe buff the crap out of Deeper Stratagem and put that at the bottom of one of the paths, and make it a legit capstone

Pretty sure they could afford to buff the crap out of Blackjack to give it some viability in PvE (keep it at the paltry 6 seconds for PvP, but for PvE it should be at least 15)

Scent of Blood and Zoldyck should both be 2 point talents to encourage build variety

Poison Bomb and Dragon Tempered Blades should swap places. DTB should only apply 1 extra nonlethal poison, and they should buff the crap out of Poison Bomb to make it feel more impactful.

[maiden sierra]

not sure if bro is wenting his spec frustrations or if he had a whole whishlist of changes saved up somewhere

[thick sail]

Make it feel like an actual capstone. DTB currently is way too good and completely passive, it's almost impossible not to take in most content, which kills build variety

[maiden sierra]

though he do be kinda spitting facts there and there

[thick sail]

I've been a rogue a long time. These talents have some good in them, but just so much bad that could be so easily fixed

[maiden sierra]

yeah current talent state is soo stale that it feels like shit

[thick sail]

Yup

[maiden sierra]

at least in season 1 we had 2 builds, for half a season....

[abstract jacinth]

dear god I am so bad, 9% parses lol, someone save me

[blazing jewel]

chefs in here tonight

[maiden sierra]

have you tried hitting the boss and reapplying bleeds?

[abstract jacinth]

apparently not well enough lol

[maiden sierra]

were you doing mechanics?

the secret in parsing is ignoring your raid leader

[abstract jacinth]

eh I'm going wrong somewhere, I think not hitting sepsis rupture immediately is dooming me

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GbF6M4AwBdhmW3Nn/#fight=6&type=damage-done

[maiden sierra]

you died 50 sec before wipe, that will do it.

[abstract jacinth]

even making it to the end my parse is always low, lived to end of this fight and same parse lol
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GbF6M4AwBdhmW3Nn/#type=damage-done&fight=10 , ignore fight 9 i griefed

[maiden sierra]

we are a heavy uptime spec, any downtime leads to considerable loss. 50 sec of not hitting a boss is very hard hitting on parses

[abstract jacinth]

yeah thats true

[maiden sierra]

30 sec downtime from death

searing slam huh. have a keybind for a healthpot, crimson vial, healthstone. always ready to top yoursellf alone and always use faint on searing slams to mitigate damage

[abstract jacinth]

I appreciate the advice, I'll work on that thank you

[woeful meteor]

1. What other build would need blindside? it's something you only need on 1/2 Targets both of these builds already take it anyway and unless you move it away from zold the other execute talent it wont be viable in m+ as long as IC exists
2. Doomblade will always be garbage it's a boring mut dmg increase and the dmg based on poisons part is lethal dose now
3. this, eventhough that is more of an law/sub issue rn
4. armor pen is kinda useless on a spec that has bleeds which ignore armor anyway and poisons which are magic unless you wanna change what find weakness did all the time
5. true
6. it is viable in the irrelevant niche that talent fills it's just a remove angle for it or overbuffing it to a point where ap/dtb is the best st build
8. they are both giga boring themselves so idk
9. they are both giga in pvp
10. alacrity already got nerfed and running double lethality is already bis if you want to sacrifice a ton of gameplay for 0,2% dps at best
12. resounding clarity isn't even bis 2/2 lethality is better, no point for reverb toi exist tho
13. Deeper is so insanely boring pls dont
14. Blackjack is an incredribely niche talent and wont be useful in pve without a rework
15. That's just a nerf, looking how dashing 2 point works
16. DTB only non lethal is useless and poison bomb is giga cringe, procs are so fun I love not having control over dmg, dtb sucks aswell tho just remove both

[candid dragon]

anybody else feeling energy starved as assassin?

[woeful meteor]

compared to the other 2 yes compared to any other expansion no

[thick sail]

1. I'm not sure if you realized this, but M+ has both AOE trash and single target boss fights, it's an incredible talent to have on bosses even if it's useless on trash

2. Yes, we agree it sucks, so let's rework it

3. We agree

4. Yes, but I specifically said "make it not useless for assassination." I'm aware assassination doesn't need armor pen, but I guess I should have been more specific: change the talent so it's useful for assassination. It's incredibly dumb having one of the near-capstone talents being completely useless for an entire spec.

5. Yes

6. They should mash Arterial Precision and Tiny Toxic Blade together as one capstone talent, then add another interesting talent node (utility or survivability) and put it where TTB is.

8. I like Poison talents, I think a lot of people like the poison aspect of the class fantasy. I also really love Venom Rush, and it feels great with Blindside.

9. Uh I mean I haven't looked at high level PvP but it's surprising to me if cutting 10 seconds off a Shadowstep is considered "giga" in PvP. This talent could literally just reduce the cooldown of Shadowstep with no Deathmark restriction and it would probably be fine.

10. I know Alacrity was nerfed already, that doesn't change my opinion. It's dumb that this talent is a prerequisite for Deeper Stratagem. Makes zero sense.

[ember mural]

[arctic current]

@abstract jacinth someone mentioned on here a while ago about shadowstepping mid leap and I gotta say that helped me a ton. I think delaying your last death mark to sync up with pot is good to if your not doing that. I don't see any reason why you can't have 100% uptime on this boss.

[thick sail]

12. Right, but Resounding feels much better to play, so it could use a buff, just have it animacharge all our combo points. And yes, change Reverberate to something else, what a God awful and uninspired, lazy talent.

13. Yeah I'm not sure you understood my point here, but when I said "make Deeper Strategem a capstone" I didn't mean "keep it as a lame flat % buff," I meant let's change it into a fun talent by stapling another active effect onto it.

14. It'll be useful in M+ if they increased the duration to 15 seconds (in PvE only).

15. Make them 2 points but keep the 3 point values? Come on man, lol that's clearly a buff

16. Yeah again, DTB is boring AF. Again, conceptually, making Poison Bomb an ultimate node would mean adding an active usable effect to it in addition to what it does so it feels more impactful

And no, nonlethal-only DTB isn't useless. Move it way down the tree to an earlier node and everyone's gonna take it in PvP

[tall atlas]

Is realz the rogue dev

[cunning needle]

no im the rogue dev

[tall atlas]

Im the rogue dev

[balmy condor]

I look away for an hour

and we're making the longest numbered list

I have ever seen

[woeful meteor]

🙂

[keen spruce]

i didn't even know we could count that high

[abstract jacinth]

good shout thank you, I'll try that next time

[tall atlas]

I don’t get why we are listing shit

What’s going on

[cerulean nest]

starting on nelth next week

god help us all

[ebon notch]

Bro there's too many words in this channel what's going on

[balmy condor]

I have no idea

[shut owl]

my cp's are already higher than I can count

helperz

[ebon notch]

I have a weakaura make a noise when I'm on the right combo points

I don't even have a tracker

[abstract junco]

Re: Crimson Tempest in ST, I'm also B - "I do not like using CT in single target." But, it's also the same soft preference, neither here nor there kind of thing. Speaking entirely through the lens of gameplay, the first cast of CT in a packed house, full-send IC pull feels solid imo, especially when it's layered on a successful PB. While I'm also in the possible minority of liking ER gameplay, I do wish animacharged nodes 100% guaranteed that bomb in the opener. It usually lands. Sometimes it doesn't. Separately, subsequent CT's just don't feel quite as powerful as that initial hit. I would much rather be multidotting by hand and have that skill check reward better damage.

I also sort of agree with a lot of the above re: issues with IC, but I'd hate to lose the cooldown timing of the AoE silence/DR - this basically took what I loved about SL Sin M+ and made it a bananas cooldown. My only real personal critique of the ability is the way it puts us disproportionately at odds with Spiteful, insofar that (and this is definite skill issue territory) losing restealths loses you the silences/DR. I wonder if CT could somehow be reworked to serve as a 45 second cooldown home for those effects specifically?

[ember mural]

[rapid forum]

Did you guys kill today whispyr?

[storm belfry]

[balmy condor]

we did

I was well above r1

and then the last dispel I clipped a hole

and fell through

was very unluck

but boss ded

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

[thorn fjord]

alot of tldr goin on here

[ember mural]

tldr: lists

[blazing jewel]

450 beacon acquired

this was so fucking funny lmfao

@balmy condor @earnest remnant

[balmy condor]

450 beacon was a downgrade for me

[spice spire]

Number 9 on the meters tho

(Idk where actually it’s a meme about rogue on sark)

[empty hinge]

@balmy condor how excited are you for the rogue changes that are coming from 1-10

[blazing jewel]

I got rank2 and im below my guilds boomie

very cool

[balmy condor]

Do you have a link to the changes

@empty hinge

[blazing jewel]

wait how

explain

[balmy condor]

447 dice strong

[empty hinge]

I was talking about the changes that should’ve been released with 10.1.5 and they’re not coming out

[balmy condor]

Yeah

What changes are those

[empty hinge]

Nothing so far

[balmy condor]

Okay

[somber sparrow]

sometimes when i look at a log in wowanalyzer, it seems like it's not tracking improved garrotes correctly... anyone else feel the same when using garrote from sepsis?

[balmy condor]

So what am I supposed to be excited about

[empty hinge]

Despair

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t support sepsis

[spice spire]

Sepsis hasn’t been added yet

[somber sparrow]

ok thanks

[deft flicker]

What’s your opinion on void??

[empty hinge]

Idk be hyped about it maybe exsang rework idk

:_(

[balmy condor]

Is there an exsang rework

[empty hinge]

:_(

[deft flicker]

The all-encompassing nothingness that appears empty at first glance but the longer you stare into it the more you begin to realise it’s not like other voids people are talking about, it’s a different nothingness

[balmy condor]

I’m not sure how I’m supposed to have an opinion about the conceptual idea of change

[oak sky]

personally i have an opinion on the idea of change

its bad

rogue is perfect

just like sylvanas

[blazing jewel]

our queen

[spice spire]

Ur both awful

[blazing jewel]

quake

come on man

she bad

[spice spire]

Badly designed maybe

[empty hinge]

Idk have a positive opinion about the unknown

[runic hinge]

I thought about the future for longer than 39 seconds and now I must drink poison

[ember mural]

you gotta make a list

[balmy condor]

List made

Now what

[ember mural]

ive gotten a turkey on last frame before, probably my best bowling game

proud of you son

[balmy condor]

Thanks

I got shin splints last week

It really hurts

:3

[ember mural]

foam roll and do tib lifts

[balmy condor]

Yeah and crank my dads hog

Pause

Imagine bowling 226 and losing by 30

[blazing jewel]

ayo

[balmy condor]

Idiot

[ember mural]

(i suck at bowling)

[balmy condor]

145 is good

[balmy condor]

You can see my first game was a 146

Warm up game

Don’t mind don’t mind

[deft flicker]

Whispyr the Grandma Flexington impersonator

[balmy condor]

I’ve been bowling for 17 years

You’d hope I was okay

[deft flicker]

You are

“Okay” is a very vague thing

Do you enjoy bowling??

[royal lantern]

he works in a alley

[deft flicker]

Ooooh that sounds fun

[spice spire]

Ur too old

[deft flicker]

Wonder what his top-5 weird bowling alley screens is

[balmy condor]

True

[balmy condor]

We have an LED light that makes shapes on the wall and one of them is a stripper on a pole

[spice spire]

I’m pretty sure he was sent that joke ad nauseam in 2019

[balmy condor]

That ones fun

[reef nacelle]

i averaged like 150 in league bowling when I did it like 15 years ago...but on one night, I somehow got on a streak, hit 7 strikes in a row, and wound up with a 254. hot damn was my opponents pissed lol

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean happens

That’s the curse of handicap

Lot easier to shoot 100 over average at 130-150 than it is at 180-190

[reef nacelle]

haha yeah. best night of my bowling career.

won most improved average too, another unfair award I stole from a more regular bowler lol

[balmy condor]

[reef nacelle]

got a triplicate badge too, because I bowled like shit the first two games, 113 or something...got to the 10th frame in game 3, had 113 going into the last frame...said fuck it and guttered it for the badge :P

[balmy condor]

I would too

Triplicate is really hard

[deft flicker]

Rare achievement >

[balmy condor]

Yah

Feat of strength

[drifting cloud]

yo whispyr gratz

I saw the 3% wipe then I took a nap

[balmy condor]

[teal badger]

is there any chance for assa to be most broken rogue spec next tier?

🥺

[snow kindle]

I wouldn’t even say it’s that far behind sub

Sin owns on ST fights

They should’ve made sin do more ST though. outlaw has cleave sub has add burst n decent ST

[scarlet orbit]

sin also suffers from being the worst spec in m+ so some poeple stick to sub because they can play it in m+ and raid where its both pretty good

[snow kindle]

If only they made sin more aoe and more magic dmg

[uneven summit]

Sin still in theory sims ahead of sub right, but the 4% buff will change that i assume

[vestal wren]

there is always a chance

[snow kindle]

On 99th percentile boss dmg sin is ahead

On overall dmg no

[vestal wren]

next tier is 10.2

[regal sable]

wats bowling

?

[shy pecan]

Fun chill game

[deft flicker]

The art of making cereal

[regal sable]

ooo

[royal lantern]

with a microwave ofc

[deft flicker]

Mmmmmmm

[gaunt moat]

@balmy condor Grats!

[balmy condor]

ty

[royal lantern]

sark down?

[balmy condor]

yessir

130k at like 10% hp remaining

and then I got booped on a hole

nice hitbox btw

those purple stripes

are me getting slurped by the hole

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[vestal wren]

well congrats

[balmy condor]

tyty

[royal lantern]

gz my man

[royal lantern]

oh, so what happend to me

dying to some bullshit in the last few %

and you saw it comming, admit it

[balmy condor]

yeah except you weren't cruising a comfy 130k 8% away from a kill, 5k dps above the rank 1

I am

not tilted

[royal lantern]

no, i was top dps on all echo pulls

like, all of them

[balmy condor]

HUH?

[gaunt moat]

don't get him started on his echo kill

[balmy condor]

brother get out

run for the hills

[royal lantern]

and the kill was the shit pull with no beacon crits, no sophic procs+grief dead

[blazing jewel]

r1 has 4 pis

[balmy condor]

I'm well aware

me in 7:02

rank 1 with 4 pi's

in 7:02

the no PI was at 127

I was re-arranging guts buddy

[royal lantern]

💀

[blazing jewel]

does r1 do the go down at 15% strat

[balmy condor]

yeh

[royal lantern]

btw whisp, what are you doing with the big add as assa

[blazing jewel]

I compared my dps at 7 mins

and mine is ass

[balmy condor]

rank 1 no pi doesn't go down either

[royal lantern]

focus? bleed up? just fok a bit? fully ignore and slam boss?

[balmy condor]

which is prolly why its' 127

but like

fuck

[earnest remnant]

Git gud kyle

[blazing jewel]

7:02 im at 122

[blazing jewel]

wait hello

[balmy condor]

in p2?

[royal lantern]

ye

[balmy condor]

why don't I just link vod

hold pls

[blazing jewel]

did you like my clip

[royal lantern]

cus im at work and cant watch it

[earnest remnant]

Havent watched it

[blazing jewel]

its top tier

[balmy condor]

I'll explain and link

you can watch later

[earnest remnant]

Just woke up

[royal lantern]

[blazing jewel]

went bowling with the raid

[balmy condor]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1865293931?t=1h41m47s

aight that should be timestamped to 1:41:47

so you're downstairs, collect your funny things, you come up, rupture the boss, sepsis gar deathmark shiv. Boss will fly away, you bait adds 1, fok rupture garrote the big add, then full slam boss when he comes back to melee. The haste buff is gonna melt that one

you do your thing, whatever, boss about to fly away again, refresh your dots on sark to make sure you don't drop anything. Bait adds, rupture big add, then vanish double gar big add, and then run out and hit sark with the 3rd gar. Technically shouldn't be double gar on the big add, should only be 1, but it lives the full duration and I can't be fucked tabbing back to re-garrote so I just pandemic the vanish it and call it a day idk. Then just full on sark again (on early prog I hit the big add quite a bit with fok funnels because we were shitters)

add 3 same deal except you got nothing for it this time so it's just refresh dots on sark, bait adds, rupture, garrote, back to sark (again, on prog I was full pumping the add until the raid figured it out)

[royal lantern]

so yeha, put dots on add, and use big dots on add togheter with boss if possible

gotcha

[blazing jewel]

I found on second add

[balmy condor]

you should always refresh dots on sark before he flies away

every time

[blazing jewel]

as breath comes out

you can vanish garrote sark and garrote the big add as it spawns

[balmy condor]

so what I said

[blazing jewel]

you do double garrote weirdge stuff

on the big add

very sussy actions

[balmy condor]

I 2x gar the add and then 1x gar sark

and sark already had gar

so it's max pandemic on both

how is that sussy

it's just 2 target

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

[blazing jewel]

I lost r1

by 300dps

imagine if the boys had r1 and r2

we go again on reclear

[balmy condor]

I'm not reclearing for another month

[blazing jewel]

no you go again

[royal lantern]

was ahri in the kill?

[blazing jewel]

ahri did big dam

[balmy condor]

ya

ahri big dam

#2

big slam

[blazing jewel]

did you guys kill with the same strat youve been doing

[balmy condor]

ye

[blazing jewel]

hmmge

that seems really good for sin cds

most kills with the 15% go down you barely get dm usage off

[balmy condor]

it's pretty gud ya

[blazing jewel]

my dm was at 7:03 and the boss died at 7:21

[royal lantern]

how do you handle going down later on, go 10stacks, or go out asap cus its not worth it?

[blazing jewel]

if your guild is going down together at p3

you will have a singular tank stay up

and bait the meteor in a spot

get the dispel knock mechanic

dispel themselves

then everyone comes up

which is usually close to the max time you can stay down

[balmy condor]

we don't :D

the dispel knock scana's talking about is just a lock gate for us

and then we just game

don't get hit by swirls 5head

and heal more

[royal lantern]

yeha idk, only 15pulls in, so i didnt really check p3 yet

[balmy condor]

loser healers

[royal lantern]

im dying in p1 and resist the urge to press cloak

F U N

[blazing jewel]

cloaking the end of p1 is 100% the play

[balmy condor]

yeah

[blazing jewel]

your healers will figure out p1 healing

[balmy condor]

you just idk

need to get an external for the breath

or something

I got cocoon for the breath every pull

[blazing jewel]

id recommend pre using phial and then heal potting after the soak breath

[balmy condor]

seli was getting guardian spirit

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats why im resisting the urge to press cloak

[blazing jewel]

im not sure if it was just a me thing

but I noticed immues werent dropping stacks in the breath

[balmy condor]

that's just you

[blazing jewel]

was like 1 in every 10 pulls

[balmy condor]

stacks were dropping fine for me

[blazing jewel]

it happened to me and my guilds ret

multiple times

[balmy condor]

I think it's actually just the breath

our blood dk would stand dead center of the breath and not get cleared

[blazing jewel]

like I would be in cloak just standing in it for the entire cast

[balmy condor]

no ams or anything

shit just bugs

for no reason

[blazing jewel]

and then suddenly notice I still have 2 stacks

[strange python]

Hey so

Im trying to learn more on classes I'm not used to in this game and honestly Rogue is one of them

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559441805045661706/1123674257776443402/Skill.gif

[blazing jewel]

I knew from the second you sent that it was going to be a skill issue meme

[strange python]

I need help on some basic ideas, more or less would they be good for Solo content?

[balmy condor]

depends on what you consider solo content I guess

and how hard you're optimizing for it

[strange python]

More or less just general quests, dungeons and stuff

[gaunt moat]

Rogue solo content

[strange python]

Maybe running old raids at amx

[balmy condor]

it's not the most mobile class for running through the 2600000 corridors of black temple every week

but like

you can world quest and do rares and shit just fine

like every other class

Idk if it's much easier or better

[strange python]

See I wanna main Outlaw but like I always got confused on what should be going tino como points, i mostly spend full points on rupture and slice and dice, then rest on evirsrate

*Evistrate

[balmy condor]

yeh

sounds like rogue

[regal sable]

the trick to outlaw rogue is complaining about BF target cap at least once every 2 weeks

you'll fit right in

[balmy condor]

yeah

and you have to stop typing in complete sentences

just start typing

in like

sentence fragments

and then

you hit enter

basically just in reflex

no matter what

[royal lantern]

its always a simple priority list you just learn

[strange python]

Like im coming back to take a break from FF14 and i finally got used to DH, Shaman and Spriest

Warlock as well

DK I sadly dont enjoy as much anymore

Fury warrior I can play

[royal lantern]

but like yeha, keep things lime dots/buffs up, and then its just "dump cp into a instant dmg finisher cus there is nothing else to use cp on"

[strange python]

BM and Marksman hunters are easy

[royal lantern]

if you can actually play DF dh with momentum well, Rogue is not a problem tbh

[strange python]

Paladin im need to replay still, mage im meh about, monk i can't stand lol, Evokers are just wonky for me, and I just dont touch healers

[regal sable]

not

really

sure

if

[strange python]

I play Havoc DH

[regal sable]

you're trying

to call me

out

with

that one

[royal lantern]

no, its because guy types like that

[balmy condor]

I mean we like meme-ing on guy

[regal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[balmy condor]

but everyone types like that

[regal sable]

yea

idk anyone who doesnt

[royal lantern]

seli

[strange python]

So If im levelling, Icyveins says to do subtlety

[regal sable]

i dont know any person*

who doesnt

[deft flicker]

Can’t send a message without sending a message at least once per message

[scarlet orbit]

whisper is that your garrot shines like that when its about to expire a plater script?

[strange python]

I also mainly rely on Icyveins for the levelling talent stuff

Cause im not good at that stuff on my own

[royal lantern]

sub and outlaw are both good for lvling, assa just sucks for lvling by the fact that its dot focused

[deft flicker]

Subtlety has the most frontloadeddanagw, which is good for leveling. You sneak up, hit Shadowstrike, thing’s dead, move along

[royal lantern]

use wowhead, whispyr is litearlly the wowhead guide writer

[strange python]

XD Nono I understand, I just always rely on that for levelling talents

[deft flicker]

But I usually stick to a certain spec while getting to max level so I can learn it better

[strange python]

I get that

I just wanna try and get used to all the classes lol

[vestal wren]

it is a side effect

you can get a response quicker

[strange python]

See I started playing back in 2020

[vestal wren]

by not writing the full response

[strange python]

Grinded all the reputation for all the allied races

XD

[vestal wren]

but split it up in smaller chunks

[regal sable]

i do it because

i spent a lot of time

in vc

[strange python]

But Im so used to being given so many damn talents

[regal sable]

with no mic

so

[vestal wren]

its inefficient, but a habit of people who want to answer first

[regal sable]

i can type at the rate

people read

or speak

so its more fluid

but now i do it outside of vc

[strange python]

So should I not worry about having something like Kidney shot on my bars

(i turn on up to 5 bars)

(Side ones are my toys and mounts)

[vestal wren]

there is a positive to it tho,
you split up information, so one message can't be overwhelming

[regal sable]

btw does anyone have any information about the rogue rework

[vestal wren]

this is actually terrible to read, does not feel fluid

[royal lantern]

there are only 3 allied races you need anyway

[oak sky]

10.2 probably

[regal sable]

like what their goals are

[vestal wren]

10.2

[strange python]

I mean I got them all

[regal sable]

i just want dance to not be longer than 40 sec cd in the new ver of rogue

[vestal wren]

kidney is a nice button in m+, rarely need it in raiding

[strange python]

Oop, sooo should I wait to do rogue then or

(I dont plan to do actual raid, maybe lfr only but thats it)

[vestal wren]

if you want to play rogue, go for it

[strange python]

XD i just dont wanna be murdered a ton lol, I wanna try and get the hang of outlaw, also for lore

[balmy condor]

on the nameplate?

or on the weakaura

[regal sable]

u should

write the

faq

like this

[balmy condor]

writing the FaQ like that might give the zoomer some time to recover their attention span between words

kind of a smart idea

[royal lantern]

also need a subway surfers clip at the bottom

[oak sky]

you could just have guy do it hes an expert

[vestal wren]

[balmy condor]

just wait till discord ads un-skippable sidebar ads

it's gonna be lit

[deft flicker]

Hey at least it fits on my phone screen that way

[balmy condor]

as opposed to it also fitting on your phone screen the other way because it just makes a new line automatically?

[regal sable]

me when im playing subway serfers with the icyveins, faq, and wowhead guides open simultaneously while watching whispyr on twitch and a video format M+ guide

[balmy condor]

you're actually vile

[royal lantern]

@strange python btw, you said you played ff14, i gues Sublety will be a bit more easy to grasp then, because it plays a bit simmelar to ff14 dps rn by beeing a very static rotation with low amount of variation

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-of-the-uchiha-naruto-shippuden-gif-23019113

You

[royal lantern]

no weeb shit

out

[strange python]

Yeaaa Thats more my thing

Like Fury warrior is easy to understand

[regal sable]

between liking exsang, playing shadow dance on assa for a month and this
which was ur first clue..

[balmy condor]

bold move from the furry lets see how it pans out

[deft flicker]

Yea, let my phone h
andle making new li
nes because it can d
o that so well

[strange python]

Like class rotationts that are easy for me are: Havoc, Demonolgy, Spriest, Fury, Bm, Survival,

Arcane

[balmy condor]

??????? is your phone drunk why is it making new lines in the middle of words

[deft flicker]

The screen is smol

[balmy condor]

thats..... not actually a reason

[royal lantern]

hey, im maybe a furry, but have enough respect to not be a weeb

[deft flicker]

Then idk it might be

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

new line on nearest whitespace is a formatting and accessibility feature of every phone running any normal operating system developed past like 1985

[balmy condor]

I'm about to send you the most difficult 2 minute video to watch

just to see if you can make it

[vestal wren]

tik toks are usually shorter than 2 minutes ^^

[deft flicker]

CreditReport.com commercials are not

Or maybe they are. Never bothered checking that

[strange python]

So they say use Flagellation on Icy veins but not on subtely? I figured that ability would be really good

[royal lantern]

there was an discovery a week ago that made other talents "better"

for sublety, you can or cant play flag, both build are equal tbh, its just that no-flag is recommended cus less buttons=less chance to do mistakes

[vestal wren]

whats wrong with flagallation

you can read the pin in #subtlety

basically can play 3 talent combos, and 2 of them are actually good

(sry )

[royal lantern]

not sorry

fuck the rotten lol

[vestal wren]

that sounds wrong

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

[strange python]

(Just like to use Shadowland abilties when they gave them in our rotations lol)

[limber lion]

I'd rather not

[royal lantern]

y'all are more horny then me sometimes

actually impressive

[deft flicker]

Ye

[balmy condor]

my god

I would never

how dare you insinuate such a bold claim!

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-shibe-shiba-inu-shiba-great-bonk-shibe-gif-25164188

[scarlet orbit]

sry was not here on the nameplate

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's plater

[scarlet orbit]

could you share it? tried to make something like that but failed...

[blazing jewel]

wait hold on

whispyr swaps tauren

boss dies

??????

the missing link

[vestal wren]

you should switch to tauren too

https://tenor.com/view/cow-gif-26468388

[vapid sierra]

Not sif 😦

[blazing jewel]

I think I go velf

close to the same damage

and not a cow

[vestal wren]

you miss out on the extra hp

[blazing jewel]

thats a healer mechanic

[vestal wren]

that you need because you forget that the hitbox is bigger and fail dodging shit

[royal lantern]

blizzard should still kill racials in any instanced content

[balmy condor]

sorry I giga forgot to respond

https://wago.io/p/Whispyr

the plater and the wa as well are here

[balmy condor]

it's true

I think I also go velf though

[blazing jewel]

1k dps was the missing X factor

[balmy condor]

now that I don't need my lockout

brother it was more than 1k

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

I was cranking hard today

left was tuesday

even just comparing p1's

it was +5500

just outta nowhere

no clue why

I swapped my heroic beacon for my heroic bomb dispenser

and swapped tauren

oh and used augment runes I guess

but llike

5500

kinda a ton

I was up 13k in p2 overall

man what the fuck was I doing on tuesday

[royal lantern]

crying

malding

[balmy condor]

I do that every day

I got CE today and during the kill pull I was malding

[spice surge]

Just getting better uptime and playing better

[blazing jewel]

Exactly what happened during my kill lmfao

Whispyr I have something for you

[balmy condor]

died on kill pull and the first words out of my mouth were "fucking son of a bitch I hope we wipe"

I'm literally just perma-mald

[blazing jewel]

What the fuck was this p1

[balmy condor]

HUHHHHHHHHH?

I had this cranker p1 today

but 145 is crazy

[blazing jewel]

I mean that’s maybe just a gear diff or something

I think I have a few ilvls

[balmy condor]

I'm trying to find my highest p1

I think it was that

yeh

lot of 130's

that's the only pull I have over 140

[blazing jewel]

I think I was averaging 130ish for p1

On mobile so it’s hard to sort

[balmy condor]

we're chucklin

[blazing jewel]

Average p1 for all pulls past p1 was 132 tonight

145

Had to have been the music or something

[balmy condor]

my average p1 tonight was 129.8

[blazing jewel]

Wait hold on

[balmy condor]

gear diffy

[blazing jewel]

You aren’t using beacon

[balmy condor]

despair

[blazing jewel]

That’s probably why

P1 looks worse

[balmy condor]

yeah turns out my 447 dice

actually just beat it

[hollow dirge]

btw, for people rocking beacon/bomb combo, probably worth 2s prepull beaconing into vanish into normal rotation, not a major difference, but cd comes back up faster, and you get bomb charges into boss faster too.

[balmy condor]

it's not

do not

that's int

[hollow dirge]

because?

[balmy condor]

because this is when I vanish on sark and nelth

you fucked yourself out of a vanish cast

for 0 good reason

other than prepulling beacon for fun

instead of just casting it 5 seconds into your opener

[hollow dirge]

well on specific bosses where you can't follow the regular cds, might not be good

but otherwise, I see no problem with it

[balmy condor]

yeah you're right

lets just do a different opener

and make a bad habit

so when we get to a boss

[blazing jewel]

There isn’t much benefit because all the raid fights that won’t give you an extra cast

[balmy condor]

that doesn't work

[hollow dirge]

I have no habbit issues, I plan my shit out

[balmy condor]

we can then do the old way

now I learned how to do 2 things

for no benefit

instead of just doing 1 thing every time

[hollow dirge]

well to each their own, I have no trouble changing an opener for difference in two buttons every now and then

[balmy condor]

it's not about your ability to do so

it's about why would you

[hollow dirge]

because I like not casting during nice energy overflow

[balmy condor]

you're suggestion changing something that gives no benefit and is objectively worse on like half the fights in the raid

what's the point

[hollow dirge]

in fact, I hate casting. in fact, as soon as I have better, throwing the beacon out

[balmy condor]

instead of just being consistent and doing the same thing every pull, now you're adding thought into something that didn't need any thought

it's just

why

why would you do that

[hollow dirge]

i told you why, and you might not have the same preference and thats fine too

[scarlet orbit]

Thank you

[balmy condor]

idk

it sounds giga insane to me

to complicate something like that

but whatever floats your boat

[hollow dirge]

for me, complication is casting during cds

not casting prior to cds

but as I said, to each their own

[balmy condor]

you think going gar snd mut rup beacon

is more complicated

than prepull beacon vanish gar

it's not even in cooldowns

every cooldown comes afterwards

idk man

if you're happy with it, you're happy with it

but don't recommend it to people like some insider tech

that gets me boiling

[hollow dirge]

i do indeed. with the fact that boss mechanics might come in too, and delaying might mean you just poped another bomb via macro. or alternative, get another keybind in for bomb so it doesent happen, which is also more complicated

and you boiling means I might not be as hungry as I was just now

[balmy condor]

what boss mechanic could possibly ruin your opener 4 gcds into a fight

please

list any fight in the last 5 expansions

where a mechanic screws you over

in the first 5 seconds

[hollow dirge]

oh don't get me wrong, but I don't want to go there, as it's the least relevant point anyway

[balmy condor]

You’re the one who brought it up wtf you mean you don’t want to go there

[hollow dirge]

either way, complication only comes from you having a habbit of doing something else, so it's more complicated to do this another thing. outside of that, its by no means more complicated

[hollow dirge]

i don't want to go and search bosses for early mechanics, but I know it happened a few times that I poped bomb and delayed beacon by mistake

[ancient laurel]

just a quick question, are there any good trinkets in the new megadungeon?

[balmy condor]

So skill issue

[hollow dirge]

for sure

[balmy condor]

Aight

Good talk I guess

[balmy condor]

Not really, no

[subtle tundra]

i have NEVER popped bomb before beacon

not once.

[hollow dirge]

you're just god king roguevald

[subtle tundra]

no, i dont have bomb

[untold mortar]

kek

[jovial verge]

mood

[hollow dirge]

[untold mortar]

Iron Juggernaut 🤡

[ancient laurel]

alright, thank you!

[balmy condor]

What mechanic did iron jugg do in the first 5 seconds

I remember nothing happening until like 25 seconds in

[blazing jewel]

Who the fuck is iron juggernaut

[balmy condor]

Boss from siege of orgrimmar

[blazing jewel]

Bro that’s like 19 years ago

[hollow dirge]

the big iron scorpio

been a while for sure 😄

[balmy condor]

Yeah and that’s lowkey the point

[untold mortar]

thought the clown emoji shows my sense of humor

[blazing jewel]

Kazzara probably had more mechanics than that boss

[untold mortar]

but prolly no