#assassination

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balmy condor
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I'm okay with it

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I've accepted myself

blazing jewel
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would you get the im going to actually stay warm style or the anime style

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choose wisely

grim jay
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Not an experience you will miss. They are made of hard materials

royal lantern
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thats why the jump stun in freeholdt is the worst debuff in the game

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instant -40% dps

blazing jewel
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even though ive done that key 20 times now

royal lantern
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(and i always get stunned cus i jump all the time for turning while moving)

blazing jewel
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when my guildies say dont forget to jump to get your damage buff

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I fall for it every time

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my one singular brain cell activates every time they say jump and damage

hollow dirge
royal lantern
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adadadad spam optimization sims when??

tacit wedge
hollow dirge
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true

tacit wedge
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jumping out of an aoe is also proven to be more efficient

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The evoker had their fun, it's time for Blizzard to bring Fangs of the Father 2.0

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it's related to the black dragonflight

hollow dirge
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And please , don’t make them look like tuna on a stick

tacit wedge
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like, new mega-dungeon will have shards of legendary weapons

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there's rumors of Ashbringer in the revamped Naxxramas

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i just want my legendary daggers again

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just a crumb of nostalgia please

royal lantern
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but no cata staff/daggers

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in a fking dragin expansion

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when both legendarys are dragon themed

scenic sky
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With that logic you should swap Vanish and Feinth 😛

royal lantern
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i didnt bind tea

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otherwhise people could think im Bri*ish

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🤢

tacit wedge
balmy condor
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also I think he just bricked himself out of roles

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oh he's red now

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W

scenic sky
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Yeah i didnt ment to have outlaw

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had assassin on for odd reason

tacit wedge
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Fangs is just pure nostalgia, i was like 12 or 13 when i got them on my first rogue ahri_shy

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i mean, Tarecgosa only existed for this questline

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then she prob did the Blizzard move of taking a very long nap until she's needed again

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check the lore

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Oh right

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she's in the staff

royal lantern
# tacit wedge there's shard of a fking lore that only exist in NON-CANNON BOOK*

"hey, what iconic items can we use as a callback?"

"what about the Staff that Casters got in a questline that showed how Kalec turned into the Blue Aspect, and has a entire story with a Blue Dragon that bounds with you and dies in the end, but keeps living as a spirit with them to assist you?"

"hey, what about the Daggers that Wrathion created for the Rogue, to assist him in defiance of his corrupted Legacy, and so they the hero can save the world with them? fits aswell"

"nah, random Seed from a non-canon book lol"

tacit wedge
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or what about Atiesh

floral shoal
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Instead of new legendary I would love a new questline to upgrade my Fangs to current ilvl.

royal lantern
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its not new legendarys

tacit wedge
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They're prob talking about Evoker new wepaon

royal lantern
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mega dungeon has trinkets or something like that, that are callbacks to old legendarys

tacit wedge
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weapon

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the callback to Azzinoth who just summon an elemental

royal lantern
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i rather dont have a legendary weapon for my class

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it always feels bad dracthyr_kek

floral shoal
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With all the new Upgrade tech imagine quest rewards to put any old item you own on the champion or hero path or whatever. Blizzard could do so much with this

scenic sky
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Idea is nice, but how would they do that? Cause would it force people to legion class order hall quests line to obtain it for the people who didnt play legion? Dont think they would force that upon people.

tacit wedge
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idk, i feel rogues are a good target for callbacks

floral shoal
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Also any crafted items from all expansions should be able to get infused with sparks.

tacit wedge
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fangs of the father, azzinoth, thunderfury

royal lantern
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outlaw artifact apperance

tacit wedge
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Ye ye

terse orchid
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Azzinoth was already appropriated away from us 🥲

tacit wedge
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Azzinoth combat rogue is iconic from TBC era

terse orchid
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They never should've made demon hunters a class. Should've just removed Sub, made DH a midrange glaive throwing rogue dps spec and let warlocks keep their demon form fun

floral shoal
tacit wedge
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Legion iteration was bad

scenic sky
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I do understand o fangs are even from Cataclysm, would like it to give the wings then aswell 😛

tacit wedge
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Nether Portal should be baseline and summon demons based on shards spent, not based on cast

tacit wedge
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I just love having wings

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playing with the 1st boss trinket instead of the anvil, because it's just 1% dps loss

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and it has wings

scenic sky
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Valid reason 🥲

royal lantern
blazing jewel
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glaive throwing spec

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cooked

cerulean walrus
terse orchid
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Eh, I just dislike the sub spec fantasy and having a ranged option would've been great

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even if it was only mid-range (like current ret)

winter gale
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Which slot looks best for Patch?

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Belt?

gaunt moat
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I've made a little edit to luxtho's to track 4p tier bonus nature damage bonus.
I don't know if I can export a single aura out of his pack and it'll work. but if anyone's interested i can try.

tacit wedge
drifting cosmos
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War 3 is a thing

tacit wedge
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like, on what do you want that ranged spec to be built on? the old throwing finisher we had?

tacit wedge
terse orchid
tacit wedge
balmy condor
terse orchid
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More like cordana felsong in vault of the wardens

tacit wedge
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Not Cordana from warcraft3? :(

terse orchid
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never played it

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I was a battle for middle earth boy

blazing jewel
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Wow needs a lancer class

tacit wedge
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A what now

blazing jewel
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A spear class

tacit wedge
deft flicker
tacit wedge
tacit wedge
blazing jewel
tacit wedge
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like y'all are just "we need X class" then gives the most lukewarm take on a class that brings nothing and has no substance to make at least 2 specs out of it

tacit wedge
blazing jewel
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Yea but rogues cant use spears

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And spears look cool

tacit wedge
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we're even getting bard next patch

hoary night
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tacit wedge
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everyone can use spears, it came for free with your 2-handed ability

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making a class using only 1 type of weapon is stupid and it only worked in Legion because borrowed power

blazing jewel
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I love that sin is basically off topic 2

terse orchid
tacit wedge
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sin has 3 moods
OT2
slow-mode because something big happened
Whispyr going insane because he found a new tech/build

blazing jewel
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Sepsissepsissepsissepsis

proven lake
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Hey guys ? Does toxic patch scale with ilvl ?

balmy condor
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no

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it simply doubles the effect of your toxic boots

tacit wedge
proven lake
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Ok Ty !

tacit wedge
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Vengeance is not "blood dk but in leather"

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but i'd delete Evoker to bring Kingsbane back

gaunt moat
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People actually want Exsang/Sepsis/KB build like we don't have enough buttons Cring

tacit wedge
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never said i wanted exsang KEKW

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i just want KB

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also i mean, yeah we have a lot of buttons

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but come on

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it's not like we have high apm

gaunt moat
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we're average apm, i clock at 52-53

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but that's not the issue

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more buttons to maintain and sync are starting to be overwhelming

tacit wedge
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KB was kinda fire and forget

gaunt moat
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you sync it with shiv

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and DM

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that's hardly fire and forget

tacit wedge
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it naturally synced with DM because it's a 1min cd

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and you press shiv twice during KB

gaunt moat
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(I'm not trying to make a case against KB, just that sin has a lot of stuff going on already)

tacit wedge
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not the hardest imo

tacit wedge
gaunt moat
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alright i'll try to export and hope it'l work for you and not totally delete all your WA 😄

tacit wedge
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but idk, i usually press my buttons on cooldown and if it sync, it sync shrug

royal lantern
tacit wedge
royal lantern
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you are missing lore i gues

gaunt moat
tacit wedge
left loom
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Cloak works for Kazzara beams on mythic to not move at all ??

tacit wedge
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you mean running into a pool and use cloak to stand in the pool?

left loom
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i need to run anyway casue beam will not dissapear right ?

tacit wedge
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in mythic, you drag the beam into a pool

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so yes, you have to run anyway

clever sapphire
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im pretty sure you do it on heroic too already

tacit wedge
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cloak will just avoid taking damage

clever sapphire
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mythic you just cant cross beams

tacit wedge
royal lantern
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beam starts doing raid dmg when they stay for to long

left loom
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any tips for rogues to increase uptime on boss ?

gaunt moat
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hope to not get mechanics starege

tacit wedge
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boss hitboxes are deceptivly large, you can soak a lot while staying in range with acrobatic strikes

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hope to not get mechanics

royal lantern
gaunt moat
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I lost 20 seconds on pull cause i had a laser, and other people always ran for the pool i was going for

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@royal lanterncome play DD boardgame with me 🥲

tacit wedge
clever sapphire
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die, get battleresed, now you only lost 5 seconds instead of 20 xD

royal lantern
gaunt moat
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leave work

tacit wedge
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we have assigned pools for the 5 melees of the raid

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and there's still ranged that goes for it

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like bruh, fck off, let the warrior have the one close to boss

clever sapphire
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
tacit wedge
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you can just blink behind a pull and blink back to safety

balmy condor
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why are we tracking the 4pc now

blazing jewel
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To feel better about the 4p

gaunt moat
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pretty much hah.

balmy condor
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fair enough

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track4fun

gaunt moat
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I just got 4p yesterday. i wanted to to make it feel like it does something

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but i dunno, maybe it's worth to envenom more during that time for PB? (i know CT also does some nature now)

balmy condor
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the convo in #1065730164077645916 about that seems to be in heavy aoe, but I don't think it changes gameplay much really

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most people were already spamming envenom pretty hard for poison bomb

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and that's even if poison bomb hits all the targets

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which is rarely a given tbh

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so the whole "envenom instead of CT" thing feels more like a sim fix

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than an actual change in what you're doing

tacit wedge
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post deathmark, i just maintain CT on 6+ targets and use Envenom as my dump, instead of using CT for that

balmy condor
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I think in practice it's going to be pretty rough to actually realize that gain

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have to hit the middle most mob in the pack

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and hope mobs aren't spread out too much

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bit of a roughie

tacit wedge
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PB procs
a mob in the pack instantly do an aoe
tank has to drag the whole pack out of the PB

gaunt moat
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Well blame yourself, you're the one who said "think of DM as a 45s buff" and that incepted the idea to do that

balmy condor
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They aren’t mutually exclusive

gaunt moat
balmy condor
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Maybe I should add my “exsang your Deathmark” tech into dslice too

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That ones 6.5%

balmy condor
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Number big

balmy condor
tacit wedge
balmy condor
tacit wedge
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All this time i thought tanks were moving the packs out of PB because they thought it was a negative ground effect

royal lantern
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i dont need to see enemy aoe stuff

gaunt moat
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As if you could see anything anyway with huge tauren warrior spinning like a madman

royal lantern
royal lantern
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you mean female belf

gaunt moat
royal lantern
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female belf, the "human fighter with no backstory" of wow

tacit wedge
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using so many toys that changes my appearance that the only way i remember i'm playing bloodelf is arcane torrent kekw

subtle tundra
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We will get a bandaid that gets called a fix

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See you in 11 0

young briar
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Ooo bois, updated to rank 12 😛

royal lantern
tacit wedge
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Blizzard reverting Deathmark for obscure reasons and it's Vendetta again, with the Legion artifact powers

balmy condor
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Maplestory better game once again and it’s not even close, we get a skill transparency slider for friendly players. Doesn’t turn down particle density, just makes them more see-through, and at 0% turns them off completely

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Very based 2D game

balmy condor
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3D humans mad IRL cause 2D better

blazing jewel
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Do you play a rogue in maple story

balmy condor
gray crater
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2D>3D

blazing jewel
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Also peak DFO >>>> 3d games

balmy condor
royal lantern
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its 1of the few things ff14 does better aswell imo

can turn animations for teammembers WAY lower or conpletely off, and can do the same for yourself aswell

blazing jewel
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Going to say it for all the melee homies

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Fuck spear of bastion

balmy condor
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Real

blazing jewel
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Blinding circle of swirly hiding

royal lantern
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spear or bastion and wild spirits

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aka

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"gl hf melee"

blazing jewel
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Why cant we get something like that

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Can we make poison bomb cartoon slime color and x3 the size

tacit wedge
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WoD smoke bomb

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🙂

balmy condor
tacit wedge
balmy condor
royal lantern
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tbf, sarkarerth by himself is allready a hatecrime with that

legit impossible to see the CONSTANTLY SPAWNING SWIRLYS in p3 cus its a light purple, on a arena that is blue/purple by default and has purple soak effects, purple spell effects and purple ground effects near the meteors

and thats without player animations

gaunt moat
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Just did like 5 uldamans in a row trying to get ring, lsat one mage gets it.

blazing jewel
royal lantern
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like, sorry, but that fight is just stupid with animation clarity

marble hemlock
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Giving a pure DPS class a non-dps raid utility was a mistake, change my mind

storm onyx
blazing jewel
marble hemlock
tacit wedge
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the raid utility :
shroud before boss pull

balmy condor
royal lantern
marble hemlock
tacit wedge
marble hemlock
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No

tacit wedge
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and not Smoke Bomb from WoD

balmy condor
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Rogue makes everyone do 10% more damage for 5 seconds after breaking stealth

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Shroud now usable in combat

tacit wedge
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Kidney shot gives Prey on the Weak even if it doesn't stun

marble hemlock
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Talking about the only melee DPS with raid utility that isnt a DPS gain

gaunt moat
balmy condor
subtle tundra
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Hey hunter has no utility at all

balmy condor
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Physical cringe

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You win

subtle tundra
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But being bm and having assigned all mechanics is basically utility

royal lantern
tacit wedge
gaunt moat
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our issue is with the feral that always jumps before timer

storm onyx
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Boomie!

late surge
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spriest

marble hemlock
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Rogue should be the jack of all trades that it is in every other game. Pickpocket a class, get their raid utility until you steal a new one. That way you don't HAVE to bring class XYZ, you just bring a rogue with that buff/debuff yoinked

royal lantern
tacit wedge
tacit wedge
royal lantern
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yes

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tbf

tacit wedge
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i want that tbf

royal lantern
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i rather dont have to spend 30min pre-raid Pickpocketing enemys for some shity buffs

tacit wedge
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Purifying Crimson, stoneskin Crimson etc

royal lantern
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vanilla ass gameplay

marble hemlock
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So it takes 20 seconds

tacit wedge
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i'm thinking about that a lot, because lately, i've been malding hard from getting a bleed in Brackenhide and having to wait 2 eons to be able to stealth again

royal lantern
gaunt moat
marble hemlock
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Symbiosis was cool as fuck

tacit wedge
tacit wedge
gaunt moat
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yeah but too hard to balance

clever sapphire
tacit wedge
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"dont you guys wants to use your emergency heal that's on a 5min cd for a minor inconvenience that can be fixed with a hot?"

royal lantern
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you mean 1,5min for racial

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🦊

gaunt moat
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Also rogues gained "Growl" from symbiosis which was very HUH

tacit wedge
royal lantern
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evasion tank man

tacit wedge
clever sapphire
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realise rend is only good because they dont have to apply it with pressing rend, but with random other buttons that do dmg

tacit wedge
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charge>thunderclap>Rend on 6 targets

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😩

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Ackchually, sometimes you press Rend for better rage management

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Rend = 30 Rage
Thunderclap = 40 Rage

hollow dirge
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when I ask my wife if I should thunderclap, she tells me to put down that small dirge and relax

tacit wedge
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HUH?

storm onyx
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I wonder; if they are going to let all this lvl and gear catchup system stay, would they finally implement a real character development/progression apart from this global amnesia sesons systems...

tacit wedge
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the only amnesia is about that sword in Silithus

tacit wedge
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we keep getting gear

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and levels

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and new talents

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until the talent tree is so complex, we get to pick 1 out of 3 talents in a row, and we unlock a row every, idk, 15 levels

flint tusk
storm onyx
# royal lantern like what?

Current design is divided by seasons, with nothing from previous staying relevant and only character progression is linked to gear. Expansions are like starting game as lvl 1 at lvl 60-70. All accumulated knowledge is lost etc.

royal lantern
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i mean, yeha

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how else do you wanna do it?

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having to grind out vault first so you can enter abberus?

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we had that during vanilla/tbc, and there is a good reason it doesnt exist anymore

storm onyx
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No, what I mean is not that you need to run content linear

tacit wedge
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atunement quests are a mistake

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Cincime typing a whole essay on how WoW should be

storm onyx
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But we forgot all about how to socket our armors, glyphs, and many more stuff. they don't carry over. Any "world changing" thing becomes absolute

tacit wedge
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i miss old glyphs...

flint tusk
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blizzard have already said they don't want anymore big borrowed power system as that is what you're describing

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so in theory there shouldn't be anymore of the peaks and falls we've had between expansions

storm onyx
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Tradeskill knowledge is not BIG borroved system tbh

flint tusk
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honestly i don't even know WHY we need expansions as opposed to a big patch with how big some of the patches are now

shut owl
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I would appreciate the old glyph UI system, if only to manage my 308 glyph of water elemental forms on my mage. (none of which are seen because lonely winter lol)

tacit wedge
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more glyphs pls...

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rogue basically has none beside the funny pickpocket one

storm onyx
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Nothing staying relevant each expansion is a catering approach and it breaks real character progression in core.

flint tusk
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it's heavy copium but that's all we have to go on if they keep their word on just continuing to build on systems

storm onyx
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Even minor things they throw in the bin tbf

flint tusk
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as opposed to refurbing each .0 patch

tacit wedge
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the other issue with borrowing power, beside the obvious "it's gone at the end of the patch/xpac"

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is the ungodly amount of layers it adds

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like bfa
necklace, then farming azerite for the levels, so you can unlock all the rings, then the punchcard, then the cloak, then corruption

shut owl
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we don't talk about bfa .0 Azerite armor

storm onyx
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Glyph system, Azerite gear customization added "choises" and depth. wish they stayed. If you look at azerite armor system as a tool to armor customisation sys, it was great tbh

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Now we have that flexibility by our tree tho

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kind of

tacit wedge
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yeah kind of

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not every class/specs has the same flexibility

shut owl
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azerite armor was just tier with extra steps

lean fossil
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i just want class weapons back like they had in legion

shut owl
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most of them had one thing you required somewhere to actually impact your rotation and then you stacked a bunch of the generics on the rest of the slots. not a ton of customization

balmy rose
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
storm onyx
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Had impact on what/how we did depending on scenario/choice

shut owl
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from the viewpoint of having to micromanage the hellscape of loot distribution for a RWF wanna be guild at the time; there was effectively no real choice during .0/.1

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not seeing sepsis in dungeon slice sims makes me sad :<

storm onyx
dusty trellis
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who got neltharions call trinket ? what is uptime in 18+ keys ?

ocean wolf
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Is there a whispyr rotation-recommendation when playing exsang+sepsis?

royal lantern
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pins mate 🙂

tacit wedge
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is class trinket getting popular? feels like more and more people come here to ask about it, thought it was bad

pure moth
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If you have "bad" trinkets it might be an upgrade for some people temporarily, until they get something better. sims said it was .5% better for me. so minimal. Think im just going to keep incarn on for the crit

tacit wedge
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true

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i'm using anvil despite being "bad"

pure moth
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after comparing logs, the only real difference is my crit level. and i lose alot of crit without incarn until i get other items

spice spire
spice surge
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Well because its a "class trinket" and has really high ilvl i think a lot of people assume its going to be bis for everything for everyone

spice spire
marble hemlock
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Blizzard finally taking a cue from Path of Exile, sadly they do it by adding nonsensical descriptors to stuff like droprates.

tacit wedge
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the only very rare loot that keeps eluding me is the drake transmog thingy sad

spice spire
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Drop rate low™️

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(I’ve always seen one drop)

marble hemlock
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We got 2 in our 2nd week but like

tacit wedge
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i've never seen the Rasza one

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i've nevez seen the hellforged one

marble hemlock
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I hate very rare items with a passion

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It's a cheap way to make people keep doing farm raids

tacit wedge
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i just want my mount to have an unfathomable amount of drip

spice spire
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The only very rare item my raid has seen is zenith tier

marble hemlock
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I think we got like

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7 or 8 daggers already

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2 from sarka normal, 1 from sarka hc, 1 from kazzara mythic, and like 3 from kazzara heroic

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Kinda weird

tacit wedge
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i get all the daggers kekw

subtle tundra
tacit wedge
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i just hoard them because i can

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i already have sarka N and a crafted one

subtle tundra
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Cause we have had more cloaks from last boss than trinkets and bomb dispensers combined

tacit wedge
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it took me so long to get my 4P because "i do so much dps, i'm not on high priority"
cue the clown show of yesterday

thorn fjord
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Got my heroic beacon last night dracthyr_blob_dance_animated

tacit wedge
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i dont have AOTC Cring

thorn fjord
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Two of them dropped too

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Pretty wild

tacit wedge
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gonna find a new guild soon

marsh grail
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random question

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but when simming for pi

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how do i add multiple pi's and not just one at X seconds into the fight

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profileset."power_infusion"+=external_buffs.pool=power_infusion:120

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i want to also include 240 in this example aswell

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in the same profileset

marble hemlock
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but we have had 4 dispensers so far

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and 5 beacons

marsh grail
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wait im dumb i was using the wrong fucking thing aaaaaaaaaa

tacit wedge
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y'all are looting dispensers?

gusty mirage
spice surge
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The fact that cloak has like 6-7% uptime is kinda oof

normal mist
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How good is beacon for assa and where should he enter the rotation? (Sepsis no enxs)

normal mist
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Yes, that's the idea

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The question is "when" in the opener

gusty mirage
balmy rose
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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then on CD

normal mist
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Thank you Tryan!

subtle tundra
gusty mirage
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Compared to a what? 424 cloak?

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Because I have a 441 cloak and it’s nowhere near 1k dps for me

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It’s like 400 dps lol

subtle tundra
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441 underrot

gusty mirage
storm belfry
winged veldt
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I’m convinced I will never see a bomb lol. 2 normal and 2 heroic kills and our guild has seen no bombs lol 😂. Also no cloaks and only 1 beacon hahahaha!

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Here’s to praying to the vault gods lol

cunning nest
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Pray to the vault!

unreal coyote
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
chilly crypt
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vestal wren
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i love how both sheets have diffrent tier slots, but the same result

royal lantern
gusty mirage
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I have 3% haste on my sub set I might as well delete my rogue

tacit wedge
vestal wren
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slime boots help getting rid of it

gusty mirage
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true

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without them I'd have 4%

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I can't get the cowl + eranog ring to go away

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doesn't help that I don't drop rings

spice surge
spice spire
gusty mirage
viscid spear
royal lantern
#

"guys look, i have such a low idea about secondarys, that i think its cool to litearlly go into a negative ammount catPOG "

gusty mirage
#

I CAN FEEL THE DIFFERENCE OK?

marble hemlock
#

Same

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When i hit 34% crit smilemk

limber lion
#

More EB procs

#

Love it

gusty mirage
royal lantern
limber lion
#

But!

#

I have literally almost nothing planned for summer

#

Maybe I can game for a month and then quit again for 10 months

winged quail
#

I have 3% haste with slimy boots and haste still sims as my lowest secondary lmao

#

just sub tings

limber lion
#

Good

limber lion
#

Balancing work, uni and vidya geims

#

Idk how some of you do it

gusty mirage
#

a lot of caffeine and nicotine usually

limber lion
#

I'm halfway there then

oak sky
limber lion
#

That's also me currently actually

oak sky
#

Ill have work and games this summer happ

limber lion
#

But it's uni and work

oak sky
#

Ill probably let irl get in the way this summer tbh

#

Might take another break from raiding so i have more flexible free time

#

And just play other shit

limber lion
#

Yeh that's a good plan

royal lantern
grim jay
austere fulcrum
#

whhat do u guys prefer as Phial ? I feel like versa flask is not doing good in Raid

royal lantern
#

vers is still best iirc peeposhrug

austere fulcrum
#

i feel like elemental chaos is bettter than that even

royal lantern
#

and why should it not feel like its doing good, they all are passive stat boosts lol

#

you dont "feel" any difference at all

grim jay
limber lion
limber lion
austere fulcrum
limber lion
#

The only reason?

#

Not the fact that it increases your dps more than elemental chaos as well?

#

lol

#

better in every way

violet jackal
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
limber lion
#

It's either Vers or Corrupting Rage

#

Other phials are not even in the same ballpark

mellow creek
#

Hey aspiring Sin player here: I got a quick question I hope someone can answer for me, in the sepsis build, what's the logic on the 4 min DM? do you hold Sepsis an entire minute or do you just send it on CD? or is it more like send it if you would lose out an entire additional cast otherwise save it? couldn't see anything on the faq nor the pin regarding that part

limber lion
#

Because it's definitely there

#

But basically you send everything on cooldown, except for Exsanguinate

mellow creek
#

Clearly I am blind thank you!

limber lion
#

No worries, good luck!

limpid narwhal
#

hey guys, is sepsis worth playing with again

#

bone spike simmed higher before

spice spire
#

Yeah check the pins sim yourself yada yada

limpid narwhal
#

ty buddy

#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
frigid kestrel
#

Speaking of phials did they do some sort of a hot fix on it or something? It use to break stealth and now it doesn’t. I’m wondering if it was a fix or some weird interaction with Slime Boots

#

Also I’m speaking on Corrupting Rage damage

spice surge
#

Yes they fixed the random proc breaking stealth

#

The proc from taking damage still breaks stealth though, as does the class trinket

#

So hopefully those get changed too Surebud

gaunt moat
#

can toxified armor patch embellish a weapon?

deft flicker
#

No

royal lantern
#

only armor pieces

#

doesnt work on cloaks aswell iirc

ionic fox
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dawn kelp
keen spruce
#

Basically limits it to belt or bracers unless you’re doin 4pc with one off set leather

supple snow
#

guys any addon / WA for tracking Sep timer?

spice spire
supple snow
#

thanks a lot

gloomy lake
#

finally out of HOI prison lol

#

do we line this up with deathmark or exsang?

royal lantern
#

dm ofc

#

dm and exsang are lined up 90% of the time anyway

gloomy lake
#

so first dm and 3rd dm

royal lantern
#

ye

gloomy lake
#

its a 3min cd

royal lantern
#

and both are a exsang DM

gloomy lake
#

word

royal lantern
#

just macro to DM and forget it exists

dusty trellis
#

pls pin opener for sepsis without exsang , i am braindead

rain oyster
#

Am brain dead. Was able to find by brain dead self

royal lantern
#

click the blue assa TC research

#

has all informations

olive wagon
#

Sepsis better now than bonespike?

dusty trellis
#

thnks

spice spire
#

Pins have all the info u need friends

#

Trust

gaunt moat
olive wagon
#

i'm dumb though. don't understand all the info there =p just wanna know which one is better overall now XD

gusty mirage
#

besides the cancer 2nd boss

gaunt moat
#

ring

gusty mirage
#

is that my way out of eranog prison?

gaunt moat
#

for me it's like 600 dps more

gusty mirage
#

thank fuck

#

cause I dropped a 431 helm

#

haste mastery

#

kind of a banger

gaunt moat
#

there's even a better ring in raid, but uldaman has best farmable

gusty mirage
#

chances of us getting any rings out of raid over a caster tho

gaunt moat
#

yah.............................

#

i've done like 7 uldamans today, saw ring drop twice. for someone else.

gloomy lake
gaunt moat
#

Eternal sentry's ring

gloomy lake
#

im using eranog ring and annulet

#

still bis from what im tracking

thorn fjord
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gaunt moat
#

use what sims best for you

gloomy lake
#

yeah i think pulsing veins from UR sims better only if it has a socket and its like .47% better

earnest cradle
#

is onyx amulet worth it for assa this season?

gloomy lake
#

pretty sure its bis for every spec

earnest cradle
#

oh nice

thorn fjord
#

We did it boyz

#

Sin simming higher in ST than my sub

rain oyster
#

Mines got 1k on sub until I get a bomb dispenser or beacon for sun. Have fragment of sin. Sepsis fuuuucks

#

It’s gameplays so smooth

#

Actually like exang for once

#

Which is a shocker

thorn fjord
#

I dunno why or how but i've been funneled a ton of gear so far

#

got beacon yesterday

rain oyster
#

Bomb dispenser went to trial who a week later rescinded his trialstarege

#

Haven’t seen one since

spice spire
#

First beacon drop went to the brm for obvious reasons

rain oyster
#

Our sark drops were trash too. Daggers and belts everywhere when I already have 447s

#

Vault tomorrow Prayge

#

Kinda crap that we killed 3 mythic and there’s nothing good off 1st three. Basically wasted vault slot

clever sapphire
#

i mean you could get a mythic tierpiece

strange python
spice spire
#

Why

#

Is he last prio

#

Is your raid lead special?

strange python
#

Dunno. Raid lead thinks DPS trinket should go to DPS players first.

#

Even though it was 10k for him and 3k for the rest of us

#

Our raid leads usually pretty on point about stuff, was a weird call.

woeful meteor
#

did he also give torch to tanks last in 10.0?

spice spire
#

I’d mostly agree

#

But when one is such a large gain over another

gusty mirage
#

if brew didn't crit that trinket for 2.5million

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

I would understand that

#

but wtf

spice spire
#

Exactly

#

WoO busted

#

Just fucking

#

Listen man

strange python
gray crest
#

What is it about brm that makes that trinket insanely good?

#

I'm not familiar with brm

limber lion
woeful meteor
#

Weapons of Order Buffs everything

limber lion
tepid lichen
#

They can buff it with one of their cds

gaunt moat
#

is there a way to remove the healthbars from nameplates?

limber lion
#

Depends on your gear, but full bis is Scalebane + Neltharion ring

strange python
#

How did sepsis exsang sin and rotten sub become the meta. Outlaw unironically least cancer this patch

limber lion
#

Sepsis Exsang Sin is arguably the best iteration of Sin in a while

#

Or so I've heard

rain oyster
#

Sepsis exangs fucccks

#

Rotten AINTNOWAY

#

Outlaw in 2023 Pepepainsiguess

woeful wigeon
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
main vessel
#

@spice spire did you like my shitpost

spice spire
#

I didn’t see it papi

#

Lemme check

#

Wait

#

This is a troll

main vessel
#

that was the shitpost

spice spire
proven jasper
unborn geode
proven jasper
#

too many exang haters

gloomy lake
#

Pretty sure exsang Sims higher

limber lion
#

It does

#

1 for 2 on the pretty sure

rain oyster
#

I fkn hated exang till it made sense with sepsis

#

Am exang enjoyer now

proven jasper
#

I mean shit it makes ur dps go brrrrt so

#

i like it

rain oyster
#

Like as soon as your exang garrote drops you have your 2nd sepsis garrote

#

It’s hot

unborn geode
#

well i should have worded that better, playing without mangaging exsang is better... exsang does sim higher than no by a few percent

proven jasper
#

Its so sexy i know

#

Its so hot when u get that pandemic sepsis garrote after ur dm+exang run out 😩

gaunt moat
hexed basin
#

echoing reprimand

proven jasper
#

^

#

Kyrian ability

unborn geode
#

i got it as i was thinking about it... looked at hte tree and was like ... duh

proven jasper
#

hehe

gaunt moat
#

thanks

unborn geode
#

@balmy condor the top link in your chart under DTB for sepsis with exsang the quick link to the sim is showing KB as the final not DTB...

balmy condor
#

Just got out of bed

#

Me have been case of the sleepo

gaunt moat
unborn geode
balmy condor
limber lion
balmy condor
unborn geode
#

shuts down fast and walks away

lost sentinel
#

hmmm, storm eater's boon is still relevant for M+?

balmy condor
#

Yep

lost sentinel
#

neat... item restoration ftw lol

unborn geode
#

before when we were using SBS we would exsang before DM but now its after?

teal iris
gaunt moat
raven knoll
#

We didnt use exsang before

balmy condor
#

What

#

We used exsang

unborn geode
#

we did, but i thought it was before the DM, and now its used after so during or after it expires?

balmy condor
#

We still use before dm

#

Hasn’t changed

#

Exsang usage is identical

unborn geode
#

okay... for some reason i was reading that all backwards... i guess i need more sleep -_-...

tacit wedge
#

Officers wanted to bench me on H Sarka for "low add dps" when 5 of our dps were under 60k

#

i'm already in a better guild

unborn geode
#

the only fight i can see a sin sitting on is Assault of the Zaqali do to the AoE required. the rest i don't see a reason

#

granted thats if you also don't play sub on the side to just switch to

teal iris
unborn geode
#

assault is aoe phase 1... cleave to st phase 2

balmy condor
#

not if you never enter phase 2

unborn geode
#

i'm confused

balmy condor
#

just simply kill the boss

#

no adds spawn

#

no aoe

#

gg

unborn geode
#

uh... okay then...

balmy condor
#

although then sin isn't great either because you get thrashed on burst

cunning nest
#

Pro Tip

winter gale
#

Which tierset slot ideally I do not want?

#

Or it's pretty much the same

balmy condor
#

you don't really want to avoid any of them

#

they're all good

#

maybe you replace head, or maybe you replace chest if you find the perfect 447

#

but it's hard

winter gale
#

I get you

#

Ty

tacit wedge
unborn geode
#

i was going to say... sin barely starts going if you kill him in 50 secs... granted that seems like something a top in mythic guild will do not the average guild

trail mica
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
unborn geode
#

sitting for add dmg as far as i konw is more or less showing there are other issues they need to cover for if adds are taking to long to die

thorn fjord
#

Where are we fitting fragment in on pull?

runic hinge
tacit wedge
proven jasper
#

couldnt you just play the m+ build on assault

tacit wedge
#

he really thought it was about to FoK>Rupture every add

proven jasper
#

i did on normal i think

#

and it did fine

#

havent done heroic assault yet but

#

i guess youd probably lose too much damage

unborn geode
#

its a weird fight... other than like 2 adds and boss the rest die fast

proven jasper
#

just pray for PB procs!!

#

ez

unborn geode
#

LOL... i play a cleave ST build on the fight... ST but drop VR for CT and just go... its not the best or most effective way to play it but i wasn't bottom so i had no complaints

woeful wigeon
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
unborn geode
tacit wedge
#

but the arcane mage doing 50k was untouchable :)

rain oyster
#

Benching in heroic WTFF

tacit wedge
#

i'm in a better guild now, got 2 offers within the hour i updated my wowp :)

unborn geode
#

i want to go farther than just a AOTC guild but i know i'm only so so

runic hinge
#

I would like to do more than aotc but work sucks

unborn geode
#

granted my guild think i'm really good because i do full click over keybind... i just can't switch styles

runic hinge
#

Just try to orange parse and flex on the guildies

unborn geode
#

??

limber lion
#

What does full click mean? As in you click your abilities?

unborn geode
#

yes... i don't use any keybinds

limber lion
#

They think you're good because you click your abilities? I'm confused

#

Yeah uhhhh

rain oyster
unborn geode
#

they think i'm good because i keep up with them and place top 5 in the guild on some fights

rain oyster
#

Use key binds it makes you 10x better at the game

#

You need your mouse in FoV

limber lion
#

Clicking is super bad, but you do you

#

Doesn't really matter if you're not doing any high end content

rain oyster
#

True

royal lantern
#

that sounds more like your guild is really bad

#

and you are the only guy that presses stuff in the right order

unborn geode
#

keybinds don't magically make you better at the game

gloomy knoll
#

they do

#

they shorten reaction times and free up your hand

#

that's an instant improvement

rain oyster
#

Free up the hand for other stuff eyebrows

gloomy knoll
#

it's not mandatory for all content but it is better

proven jasper
#

a lot easier to move your camera when you're not clicking abilities

gloomy knoll
#

or your character

#

in general

proven jasper
#

ya

rain oyster
#

I move by holding down right mouse and strafing. Would never be able to click abilities

gloomy knoll
#

people can get hof by clicking a majority of their buttons so it's not like it's impossible to play the game

#

it's just worse

limber lion
gloomy knoll
#

yes

#

a tank i used to know

limber lion
#

Oh yeh, tanks are a bit of a different topic

gloomy knoll
#

i also know a ret paladin who clicks who was probably 50-100 wr below hof

royal lantern
rain oyster
#

Imagine an outlaw rogue clicker

royal lantern
#

lol

rain oyster
#

I’ll be impressed af

proven jasper
gloomy knoll
#

yea raid tanking is prob easier to do it lol

proven jasper
#

imagine fury warrior clicker

royal lantern
rain oyster
#

OSU on the action bars 🤣

royal lantern
gloomy knoll
#

well a lot of clickers do like

#

1-5 and then click the rest

#

apparently

proven jasper
limber lion
#

Tanks don't necessarily want to use up every single gcd

proven jasper
#

but its the same thing ya

gloomy knoll
#

at least the people i've met do it that way

limber lion
#

Whereas dps players generally do

proven jasper
#

super low gcd

#

mashing ur keyboard

#

or your mouse

#

i guess

limber lion
#

The problem with clicking is that you have to coordinate your mouse around the screen and looking at your bars and where you're clicking

#

Instead of looking at your character or weak auras

royal lantern
unborn geode
#

who looks at their bars?...

limber lion
#

You'll just randomly die out of the blue because you're looking at your Envenom icon instead of your character

limber lion
#

How do you click your abilities if you don't look at your bars

#

and where you click

#

That's not a thing

rain oyster
#

Clicking the naga keybinds kekW

#

Jokes aside I just got nostalgia the first time I played wow and clicked like a madman peeporeallyhap

tacit wedge
grave ferry
#

I have the opener on its own action bar and click my way through it. Works 100% every time.

proven jasper
#

holy fuck

#

600iq

limber lion
rain oyster
#

Sequencing 🤯

unborn geode
#

never look longer than a quick glance for procs

earnest remnant
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

@earnest remnant learning the forbidden assa tech

#

instead of rotten?

earnest remnant
#

no, just doing research for Sark

royal lantern
#

suuuuure

gray hazel
#

Are you guys using numbing or atrophic poisons in keys?

unborn geode
#

numbing for me... its seems to do more for packs than atrophic

#

my view on it

limber lion
#

Honestly doesn't really matter as long as you just use something

rain oyster
#

Atrophic for high tyr, numbing for fort for the tank friends

royal lantern
#

numbing for everything with pugs and fort, cus numbing reduces the dmg a tank takes by a good chunk, and makes interupts more easy

spice surge
#

Id say just play numbing until you find a situation where you feel like you need atrophic

royal lantern
#

but like, 90% of the time its numbing

#

ye, atrophic beeing "needed" is like, +27keys on tyrannical lmao

weak horizon
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gray hazel
#

Awesome, thanks!

#

Yeah, i wont be doing anything higher than 22 prob

#

just want my portals usually hah

pseudo hamlet
#

Some leaders in M+ asked me if I've got 2pc/2pc set instead of 4pc? (I just put note with "4pc" whenever I apply)
Why would they ask such a thing?

gaunt moat
#

I dunno if it's just gear diff or what
but this tier I feel like I perform way better since I returned to wow. Last tier i've beem garbage.
But it's also very hard to compare to other players when there's only like 200-300 sin parses with vast ilvl difference.

#

I used to be good 🥲

spice spire
#

Idk man.
I just press buttons, boss is kill, endorphins, then the voices return

thorn fjord
#

Do the voices tell you to find Burritos?

stiff laurel
pseudo hamlet
thorn fjord
#

4p doesnt get ahead until 434ish

#

And you can use the Helm

#

Helm is hot dog water

spice spire
#

!logs

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

spice spire
#

Is a solid help

#

If you need something beyond the basic go over, have no issues helping 🙂

main vessel
#

and Whispyr is adding Sepsis support

#

I'm very proud

spice spire
gray crest
spice spire
#

I already got the first one ready daynoted

gray crest
#

quake is toxic now... noted... peponote

spice spire
#

now? 🤨

#

Damn was hoping he’d ask hmm

gray crest
#

ive only seen wholesome quake

#

even your toxicity is wholesome

winter gale
#

Assa ST seem to be nice atm

#

Im still 2p but on ST I’m always up there

spice spire
#

It’s okay

fathom finch
#

Quick question: What % Haste should I be shooting for running Sin in Raid?

spice spire
spice spire
fathom finch
#

Essentially, single-target PvE situations.

spice spire
#

Whatever sims best? Use that item

tropic rover
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tropic rover
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
languid pier
#

Anyone know if the Harlan's Dice proc increases with ilvl?

fathom finch
#

I'm asking because the Spreadsheet (Fuu) shows using Wafting Enchant on MH....a Haste enchant. And the Gems are Crit+Haste.

languid pier
#

They have different builds

#

but sim the same

spice spire
#

Yeah there’s no set shtick.
It’s really just whatever sims best, slap it on

fathom finch
#

Hmmm....both spreadsheets show BiS setups using Wafting on one. For me, when I sim Wafting is only 100 dps behind double Sophic.

harsh harbor
#

Where did i see a chart for equivalent ilvls of the eranog ring for rogue specs?

balmy condor
#

way up in tc research

#

but its not accurate anymore

trail mica
#

4 set buffs slimy boots?

spice spire
#

No

night crag
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
hollow vault
#

ermm, is leeching poison not workin for anyone else sanger

#

have untalented locked in & retalented

#

swapped specs

#

nothin

tacit otter
#

poisons applied?^^

steel spire
#

Have to reapply after brez

hollow vault
#

wasn't brez'd

#

unless just mass rez after a pull you mean

#

yo wait it worked that pull

#

???

tacit otter
steel spire
#

Ya leeching needs fix

#

🙏🏾

hollow vault
gusty mirage
#

it's annoying as fuck

fleet pagoda
#

oh wait wtf how long has this been a thing

balmy condor
#

a crumb of context sir

fleet pagoda
#

whoops, didn't realize i was so late to seeing the last bits. the leeching poison issues

wind condor
#

If you have a prog fight where you’re in execute for awhile, could droppikg SBS and picking up 3/3 of that poison/bleed node be worth?

balmy condor
#

But you wouldn’t do it with sbs I think

#

It happens with sepsis on mythic rashok

#

You drop exsang and run double shiv venom rush, drop shrouded put the extra point into zold

#

It’s giga min-max though and sorta completely unnecessary imo

west swallow
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
echo jay
#

am I wrong or is the sepsis exsang and sepsis noexsang builds in the tc post about sepsis the same exact thing? @balmy condor

balmy condor
#

Hmmm

#

They aren’t

echo jay
#

Ignore me, I see that now, Idk what I was doing. sorry for the ping!

balmy condor
#

Np, you edited it in

#

So it didn’t actually ping me

echo jay
#

ah ok good deal. its too late and I clearly was copy/pasting wrong lol

balmy condor
#

Pings only work on message send

#

Good luck king

echo jay
#

thanks for all you do!

balmy condor
#

My pleasure

balmy condor
#

aight

clever sapphire
#

thats a scary aight

balmy condor
#

we gonna try something

grim jay
#

Never ends well

clever sapphire
#

next thing we see whispyr has cold blood instead of sepsis

rocky ruin
#

nah KB is returning

clever sapphire
#

returning if you have the clown transmog on clownpepe

rocky ruin
#

you dont like kb?

clever sapphire
#

i love it

#

thats my problem

rocky ruin
#

then pray

#

and in 11.0 is good again

clever sapphire
#

my temporary fix is sepsis build

royal lantern
clever sapphire
#

and without cttc

royal lantern
#

ofc without cttc

clever sapphire
#

wait even better, you add shadowdance into the mix instead of er

balmy condor
#

Need a Check

  • who
  • can
  • see
  • this
  • formatting

If you can/can't see the formatting, please react to the message accordingly. I tried it earlier in a pin a couple weeks back and it didn't work, but it seems to maybe be working everywhere now hopefully? FaQ boutta be a lot cleaner if it does

hollow vault
#

works on mobile dogJAM

royal lantern
#

on phone and can see it

balmy condor
#

kinda pog

#

the URL stuff doesn't work

#

which is a bummer

royal lantern
rocky ruin
balmy condor
#

used to be able to Google

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and it would hyper link

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I guess like that

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and it would just say "Google" and be linked

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but I can't get it to work

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think they removed that

hollow vault
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would be clean sadge