assassination

[balmy condor]

we played it pretty safe with bolstering this week

I'm like 115-125ish

last week I was in the 140's

I assume with a giga pull fort week can probably get into the 150's

now that I have tier as well

idk, m+ damage is always very hit or miss

you can time the easiest, most buttery smooth key of your life

and do like 120k

[tacit wedge]

Just play?
IC from stealth, maintain CT deathmark enforcer, use correct battle potion

[balmy condor]

and then you can do a ridiculously brutal key at the same level that ends in shambles

and you're doing 170

and you're like whelp

that sucked

[tacit wedge]

I usually gravitate around 95k overall on FH, depends on how frequently i could IC from stealth and if i was inted by sharks

[outer urchin]

which version of the sim should I sim on for the updated logic for sepsis+exsa?

[raven knoll]

From what I see I do anywhere between 100-113k. I do a lot of FH since I want the trinket. I use Potion of Shocking Disclosure as battle potion it was cheaper 😄

[tacit wedge]

We almost timed a 18 FH with 40 death

[balmy condor]

its not in raidbots yet

[outer urchin]

thanks

[balmy condor]

you can put that into the custom apl

under your sim

and it should work

[raven knoll]

We didnt time +17 with 20

[tacit wedge]

How

[balmy condor]

we timed a 20 earlier with 12

it was

interesting

our tank pulled the turtle while we weren't in the arena and all the spectators just one shot us

[tacit wedge]

I don't use shocking because i ca''t be bothered having 2 keybinds for the same purpose

[tacit wedge]

Had a death on Tothrak due to that
Kited shark to a red puddle
Get bumped
Die

[potent topaz]

With Sepsis/Exsang build Vanish keeps being a backup for emp. Garrote, if sth goes wrong, right?

[balmy condor]

yep until 2 min deathmark

same logic

[potent topaz]

k, thank you

[raven knoll]

I used it 5 times and it is not that huge. Once on single target tho

[pseudo hamlet]

What does "something wrong" even means in that context?
Wouldn't it be better to always pair Vanish+empowered Garrote for the Death Mark only?

[outer urchin]

worked, thanks

[potent topaz]

probably @pseudo hamlet

[normal mist]

In the sepsis no enxs build, do we hold the second dm to pair with vanish?

Tried the build yesterday in the raid and my logs improved by a mile, i kinda enjoy the build

(normal raid still tho)

[frigid kestrel]

Vanish should auto be up for the second DM since you do not use it in the opener

[normal mist]

Oh frick i was doing it wrong

I was vanishing when the second sepsis proc garrote dropped I'm an idiot

Ofc my dm vanish where desynced for like 40 secs

[gentle gyro]

when you roll a 98 and the last person rolls a fucking 99

end me

[earnest timber]

When do I Irideus Fragment in the Exsang / Stepsis build?

[balmy condor]

Final Sepsis Update:
Round-up post is in #1065730164077645916 (or direct link here <#1065730164077645916 message>)

Updated for the final changes as of <t:1684832117:R> (FAQ is now updated):
Whispyr's Spreadsheet (!whispyr)
Fuu's Spreadsheet (!fuu)
FAQ
Wowhead
Icyveins
Method
Sims

[balmy condor]

macro it into deathmark like normal

[spice surge]

Stepsis technology advancements

[earnest timber]

Thank you!

[exotic hazel]

Still waiting for the tech of Mutilate turning into Ambush when we get a proc

Hate having it as a keybind on its own 😂

[indigo ginkgo]

make an alt mod key

[exotic hazel]

Bandaid fix but yeah I don't like mod keybinds 😭

[balmy condor]

!bs

[prisma monolith]

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
This should be seen as a "lazy" option, and is not recommended. It can be hard to control and requires a third-party macro addon to expand the games base functionality. We recommend ALWAYS keybinding ambush (either with a modifier, or an entirely different key)
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

[balmy condor]

you can do this

and get laughed at

for being a loser

also would brick sepsis for you forever

so

ya know

[exotic hazel]

Sounds like an average day

[balmy condor]

but if you don't wanna play sepsis, it works good enough

[exotic hazel]

Do you not see

The sexy sepsis icon

Right next to my name

[balmy condor]

pick your poison

[indigo ginkgo]

i just use
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt] Ambush; Mutilate

[exotic hazel]

I'm assass

I want all the poisons

[balmy condor]

Only thing I can offer you is ligma

[blazing jewel]

Which poison does the most damage help

[exotic hazel]

Nope. Not doing it.

[blazing jewel]

Is it cyanide

[balmy condor]

Instant poison, because it’s the only one subtlety can use

[exotic hazel]

Depends... Does Chloroform count if it includes what I do in the interim?

[blazing jewel]

Guys help I accidentally drank the instant poison but it’s not instantly killing me !whispyrredbullcheck

[balmy condor]

I ran out during raid today

But that’s okay

I got a donation

[blazing jewel]

You guys almost got Cheeto guy down

[balmy condor]

Red Bull reserves will refill

[exotic hazel]

Hurr sure assass so bad

Guys such a doomer

Doesn't mention sepsis once

[blazing jewel]

Where sepsis

[balmy condor]

That’s cause I didn’t expect them to give sepsis a 40% buff by putting it on our mastery whitelist

Considering they didn’t seem to give a shit about that all of shadowlands

[exotic hazel]

Sepsis oneshots in SL PvP is what made me roll Assa

Glad it's now back

For PvE

[balmy condor]

It got cucked in 9.3 pve as well

Because no mastery

Second times the charm

[rocky ruin]

Whispyr wouldnt that make more mastery even better for sepsis

[exotic hazel]

"We haven't heard anything rogue-wise for 10.0.7... Maybe the Devs just cooking man, maybe we just got to let them cook until 10.1 you know!" - @balmy condor (March 2023)

Poor, sweet, innocent man had hope for an Assa rework in 10.1

[blazing jewel]

Sin is being dry aged at this point

There isn’t any cooking going on yet

[exotic hazel]

The Devs haven't even been out hunting yet

Let alone started cooking

[deft flicker]

Whispyr has occupied the kitchen, devs have nowhere to cook

[random fossil]

Soooo slam shiv on cd no matter what even if stepsis is around the corner?

With exsang build and 1 shiv charge

[balmy condor]

I mean sure yeah but sbs is also affected by mastery so it’s not really gonna change much

[terse orchid]

Will running sepsis let me not feel guilty for weighing my party by not running sub in m+?

[pseudo hamlet]

Whispyr actually making more notable changes to Assa players than WoW Devs

[balmy condor]

That’s what it say

[balmy condor]

Sepsis in m+ is troll please don’t do that

[random fossil]

Sweet sweet

[sick aspen]

but we're already playing sin, might as well troll all the way 😛

[terse orchid]

Math taught - x - = + tho

Maybe trolling as a troll rolls it right back into good?

[random fossil]

Time to make my shiv WA scream at me again like it did in Shadowlands

[balmy condor]

Surely

!ts

[prisma monolith]

<t:1684493044:f>

[balmy condor]

3:45am

Nice early bed time

[pseudo hamlet]

Gn Whisp

[ionic matrix]

has anybody looked at puzzleboxing 10 seconds before pull, so that iredeus comes up as you exsang deathmark.

and seeing if its worth a shit

and then puzzleboxing every time 20 seconds before irideus

[cunning nest]

Isnt Box CD other trinkets by 30 seconds?

[terse orchid]

Yeah think so, specifically because of the abovementioned combo being abused by uh dk

[vestal wren]

sleep well, i did re-run the sheet sims yesterday (top section sims) with your apl from #1065730164077645916, is there a diffrent to the pinned one?

[ionic matrix]

ahhhh I didn't see. Thought it was 20 like others

[cunning nest]

It was, but they fixed it in the läßt few weeks

*last

[true garden]

Ayo do we play sepsis in dungeons too now ?

[winged star]

no

[royal lantern]

you dont play assa in dungeons

cus the dungeons fuck the spec so hard, its not even funny 🙂

[winged star]

how so, I'm playing assa in dungeons without issue but only doing 18/19's right now at least

[royal lantern]

try doing brackenhide endboss last week pre-nerfs as assa

or VP

aka "add spawns that needs to die instantly"

and cry

good dungeon design btw

[winged star]

vp was rough that is true, but not really a problem now

[night delta]

We tried a 18 VP last week with 3 melees

holy moly we suffered

[rocky ruin]

how much a socket worth on wrist and waist against a no socket

[storm onyx]

was +10 ilvls last raid content

[true garden]

i hold my ground quite fine in dungeons

[subtle tundra]

assa in m+ is troll

man i played 2 assa keys yesterday

a 20 vortex and a 20 fh

i was screaming

literally fucking malding on discord

havent been that pissed in a long time

[brazen lantern]

Those are fun with premade ngl

[viscid spear]

don't pull patting trash mob before Matriarch

[frigid kestrel]

What do you me Exang

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[rocky ruin]

why?

is fun everything dies so fast and if IC is not ready well fuck me

[sick aspen]

what an interview, that class balance part is wild

[rocky ruin]

best part
When it comes to determining what changes are needed, they look at both internal metrics and public data. Another big question is player representation - how often they're able to find groups for different types of content. What the community thinks of various specs is more important than what their raw tuning numbers suggest, and how often they're invited to groups (or not) is an important metric.

i think all ppl think if they me in keys saw fuck i thought he was sub

[subtle tundra]

instead of a 500 word essay ill just play sub

[rocky ruin]

Varas i know

i play some keys as sub and its just a different world

[subtle tundra]

i just start screaming

when i use everything i have

and my dps is just not there

[royal lantern]

huh

what did i miss

[sick aspen]

korean webzine interview on wowhead with ion, Outboxer pasted the crazy part.

[austere fulcrum]

Do we have overall bis gear ? raid / m+ combined ?

[gentle gyro]

answer is always

[thorn fjord]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[austere fulcrum]

thank u

[velvet ridge]

I just wish we had something man. I feel decked out in gear, but just can't compete in st or aoe rn, idk getting kinda sad this patch

[subtle tundra]

We don't get buffed in m+ cause sub and outlaw are good and in raid we perform good in hc so we don't get buffed there either

[scenic sapphire]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[terse orchid]

"good". Still get outshone by sub without having the benefit of our stat prio being the same from ST to AoE, the way sub pretty much has

[gusty mirage]

Our stat prio for ST and aoe isn’t pretty much the same?

[terse orchid]

Doing raid bosses with no haste feels like hell

[thorn fjord]

Why that’s what ER is for

[gusty mirage]

Doing raid bosses with 10% haste or 15% is unnoticeable

[thorn fjord]

Try 4% bb

🤣

[terse orchid]

2% lol

[thorn fjord]

Still pretty Chillen tho

[gusty mirage]

I mean 2% vs 10% is 0.8 energy every tick

[thorn fjord]

You’ve got tea and ER to help with that

[gusty mirage]

If y’all can feel 0.8 energy, kudos

[subtle tundra]

I play 3% and its ok

[thorn fjord]

If I smoke enough pot I can feel my hair growing

[undone eagle]

Where can I find current openers for ST bosses pls?

[gusty mirage]

Okay Mr. Bath Salts

[undone eagle]

!opener

[gusty mirage]

Y’all are wild down there in Miami

[gusty mirage]

Open the pins and click the link brother

Has the opener with exsang and without exsang

[thorn fjord]

We’re tired

[gusty mirage]

Same

Bath salts and chill soon?

[thorn fjord]

[subtle tundra]

Feels like Miami where I live

27 degrees

Fuck

[undone eagle]

40 in vietnamn 😎

Was 44 last week

Help

[gusty mirage]

One second lemme convert that to stupid units and I’ll respond appropriately

[thorn fjord]

It’s hot and sticky and it’s been raining a lot again

[undone eagle]

In a few years asia will hit 50 degrees then rip

[gusty mirage]

111 Fahrenheit

How is everything not melting?

[subtle tundra]

Uh

Get better ig

[gusty mirage]

Wtf

Bro that’s insanely hot

[thorn fjord]

Yeah that’s bad

[gusty mirage]

And it’s probably humid as fuck too

[thorn fjord]

Like trash can melting bad

[gusty mirage]

[subtle tundra]

Thanks

You're hot too

[gusty mirage]

[viscid spear]

New Jersey summers suck, the air is so thick it feels like you're in the broiler

[gusty mirage]

And it smells like piss

#NewJerseyThings

[subtle tundra]

Come to romanoa

Not editing

Leaving it like that

[gusty mirage]

I want to visit Romania

[subtle tundra]

Only issue is plane ticket price

Everything else cheap af

For you american

[gusty mirage]

Bucharest looks cool af

[subtle tundra]

Has its cool places

[gusty mirage]

Plus every Romanian I’ve met has been very fun

Nice people too

[subtle tundra]

Wowee

Tbh the Romanians that are the bad kind stay around other Romanians like themselves

[frail geyser]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[subtle tundra]

So you don't really get to know them

Also I recommend our mountains they beautiful

🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴💪💪💪💪

[thorn fjord]

i bet youre beautiful too Varas

[agile osprey]

As much as I’d love to do a European trip, I’d settle for just getting out of Ohio for a week at this point….

[subtle tundra]

Ohio 🇭🇺

[subtle tundra]

[green juniper]

Guys how do i highligt tanks at raid

[bitter cargo]

romanian gamer here

[green juniper]

Like they have their own group

[subtle tundra]

Too bad you're outlaw, could've been so based

[bitter cargo]

only for keys, I raid as sin

[subtle tundra]

My point still stands

[bitter cargo]

lol

[gusty mirage]

factual

[gusty mirage]

be careful what you wish for, you might end up somewhere worse

like indiana

[thorn fjord]

Indiana > Ohio tbh

[gusty mirage]

absolutely not

[thorn fjord]

Its closer to Chicago LOL

[gusty mirage]

those bath salts are getting to you

[drifting cloud]

yes, and?

[gusty mirage]

I would rather spend my day in Dayton than Indianapolis

you crack head

[thorn fjord]

You are crazy

[gusty mirage]

nah fam

you're crazy

[thorn fjord]

Im going to Daytona next month actually for CEO

Crack heads everywhere

[gusty mirage]

bro I was so confused

until I realized you were talking about Daytona Beach

I was like why are you going to a race track

[thorn fjord]

Yeah hehe

CEO gonna be lit tho... First major for SF6

Jebaily used to host it in Orlando but the venue in Daytona is so much better

[balmy rose]

is sin faq getting updated any soon?

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[agile osprey]

Homie in for a real surprise when he shows up in Dayton, expecting Daytona

[safe swift]

yo stupid question but can i skip all the campaign on my alt if i did everything on my main? but my main is on a different realm

[thorn fjord]

LOL i totally read Daytona and not Dayton @gusty mirage lolol

[gusty mirage]

fr

Dayton's nice though

just not the kinda nice he's expecting

[thorn fjord]

I'm all about taking it easy

[gusty mirage]

I mean you can take it easy in Dayton

well

most parts of dayton

[agile osprey]

Daytons not bad. I’m in the NE tho. Crakron hits different

[gusty mirage]

oof

heroin country

[chilly viper]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[agile osprey]

yeah but we got swenson's tho

[gusty mirage]

swenson's goated

as much shit as I talk about Ohio

people have been very nice down there

esp considering I have a michigan plate

[agile osprey]

In Columbus they get a little nuttier about that

My sister went to OSU, it was great as I got to go to all the OSU/Michigan games for dirt cheap

I've never seen a city go so crazy

[clever sapphire]

I think you can skip all the S1 stuff, cant skip new zone stuff

[undone eagle]

If I dont wanna craft the boots, its fine to go for crafted 447 dagger and embellishment?

with fang adornments

[clever sapphire]

I crafted dagger, then slimy belt and toxic wrist

Well i mean slimy shoes

With s1 spark

[undone eagle]

u took fang adornments on ur dagger?

[clever sapphire]

Nah

I have the food thingy on my dagger

Slimy on shoes and toxic patch on wrist

[undone eagle]

ah the one lasting through deaths and 100% time ?

[agile osprey]

I started with dagger, then I switched to boots patch and it was roughly 3-4% for me. I would sim it

[undone eagle]

im not making this very big of a deal im just gonna push like 20-22's , no mythic raiding

[gusty mirage]

I was actually treated the nicest in columbus

[undone eagle]

i dont want it to be so hardcore so thats why im asking if its fine going for fang on my dagger 447

?

[clever sapphire]

Ye that one, costs some gold but atleast less food usage. Considering i cant use cookies in dungeons, even better

Dunno, sim dagger vs slimy + toxic patch

And then decide

[undone eagle]

i dont wanna go for the boots xD

[gusty mirage]

you can always remove the fang later

with a recraft

[agile osprey]

True

Plus your dagger will say +1 sparkle

which makes it bis

[undone eagle]

right, but besides the slime toxic, fang is 2# bis right?

[gusty mirage]

not sure tbh

[undone eagle]

OK its w/e thnx anyways

[gusty mirage]

but it's more damage than running just one embellishment

so you're not really losing out on anything

[undone eagle]

its still max 2 embellishemnt right? xD

[gusty mirage]

ya

[undone eagle]

pog

[gusty mirage]

so even if its not super optimal

[undone eagle]

s1 i had fang on dagger and master boost on ring

[gusty mirage]

it's better than just running one embellish

ya know?

[undone eagle]

yep

[clever sapphire]

But tbh if you dont care much about bis embellisg, just run whatever you want

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

just make sure you have 2 to maximize your dps, even if its not giga optimal

[undone eagle]

umm how come Torc of Passed Time > Lariat in crafting pref?

i check on wowhead reccomendations

ah cuz lariat counts as emb?

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[undone eagle]

So in my case if i wanna skip the boots

i can go for lariat and dagger with emb, thats pog ye?

xD

[clever sapphire]

I mean problem with lariat is, it becomes good with many sockets

[undone eagle]

yea.. need to go for the huge sockets

else ill just skip it and go for stuff like ring and add that mastery boost emb

[clever sapphire]

Tbh i have too little idea about what to craft well thats why i just use the bis list xD

But lariat is probably good longterm

[agile osprey]

I just don't see a good reason for not going with the boots/patch

unless you don't have a crafted piece to put patch on I guess

[nimble tartan]

yooo

[velvet nacelle]

@agile osprey want a terrible/bad reason? i used one of my sparks to upgrade my engineering wrists already so i gotta wait 2 weeks now

[agile osprey]

This man holds the forbidden knowledge. We have much to learn

[velvet nacelle]

i'm an engineer so it was like "hey i can just upgrade one of my own pieces!"

and bres wrists are incredibly useful with my idiot friends in M+

so i figured "i'm gonna use these all expansion, might as well upgrade these and my dagger first"

unrelated note, anyone know how to turn on the crystal in the raid?

i've been in pugs sometimes that have the crystal turned on so you can teleport to zskaren and sark, and others where it doesn't have any teleports

[red swift]

if I still only have the old set, no pieces of the new yet, is it worth to try the sepsis build or should I stick to the old sbs one?

[uneven hamlet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/68KikDeTUPNmraErzggPVM Ima a sepsis lover now

[velvet nacelle]

@red swift i was simming pretty similar on both and i didn't bother switching til i got the 4 piece and, even though it was just a few days, i regret not getting the practice in

muscle memory is a bitch

[red swift]

that's kinda why I don't wanna switch rn, I'm alting on that rogue and haven't played in a while so I'm not feeling like trying to learn something new right now unless the difference is big

[velvet nacelle]

having the 4 piece, even though i'm playing it poorly, i went up like 10-15k dps

but i only have like two fights of new set data vs last weeks parses

and i feel like i had less mechanics on those fights this week

[turbid heath]

any sepsis WAs you guys recommend?

[undone eagle]

I can put same enchants + quality on both daggers right?

For example 2x Sophic Devotion q3

[turbid heath]

yup

[spice spire]

@gaunt moat made a nifty one

https://wago.io/Lgy47ma7G

[velvet nacelle]

aren't we doing shadowflame enchants now?

[royal lantern]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[pseudo hamlet]

even better... we go one sophic and one wafting!

[oak sky]

Fuck sophix

[honest lagoon]

Hi y'all. How is assa in m+? I want to play hard mode DPS this season up to +20.

[gentle gyro]

it is doable, but you will be less effective than outlaw and sub

or differently, you will have to put in a lot more work than the other two specs to get the same result

[honest lagoon]

What I want to hear 🙂 Cheers.

[frigid kestrel]

How does Bomb work? Should I just macro it with something frequent that I cast? I don’t have it, but reading the tooltip it looks like you use it consistently

Like should I macro it with Envenom or just keep slamming it when it’s up?

[flat kiln]

It's not 100% optimal to macro it but if you don't care about min/max could be easier

[royal lantern]

its ok

not unplayable by any means

[thorn fjord]

I macrod it to all my builders essentially and it still fucks

[royal lantern]

but you put in a lot of effort for mediocre numbers at best

[dark token]

fuck shadowflame

zdps enchant

sucks in aoe

[royal lantern]

who cares about aoe

aoe is padding

[vital haven]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

The pinned one has exsang changes, unsure if you got those in

[gentle gyro]

sepsis on cd or try to sync it with something
I can't read the faq, carry on

[storm onyx]

I had posted this in general but: Has anyone encountered their Kicks and Kidneys interrupting multiple mobs?
I think I might be getting very rarely multiple interrupts on a singe cast. Couldn't catch the interaction yet.

[vestal wren]

sims the same, so should be in i assume ^^

[balmy condor]

Ah nice

[zinc turtle]

Could someone explain why I cant add a Toxified Armor Patch to Slimy Expulsion Boots please?

[storm belfry]

Useable. I have no issues and am competitive to other specs

[spice surge]

You add them to another crafted leatherworker item

Not the slimy boots

[storm belfry]

Has to be put on another item

Yeah as said above

Like I’m gonna put mine on crafted bracers jn 2 weeks

[zinc turtle]

ahhh ok which slots can it be applied too?

thansk

[gusty mirage]

any crafted armor slot except for cloak

so helm, shoulders, chest, bracers, belt, etc

[honest mantle]

parsed a 96 in Heroic neltharion 😄

[deft flicker]

Slimy Expulsion Boots already have an embellishment, you can’t put another one (toxified patch)on them at the same time

[gentle gyro]

there really should be an npc at target dummies that resets your cds

[worldly solstice]

@honest mantle nice man

[frigid kestrel]

I was saying the same thing last week, like it should be basic to do that by now.

But I’m assuming Blizz thinks someone clever will abuse it somehow

[hollow vault]

if youre purely just practicing rotash, you can hit dummies in the order hall and reset cds by q'ing for the proving grounds

the dummies are just low level, so insta in exe range is annoying

[gentle gyro]

was practicing the sepsis opener

[hollow vault]

yeah it'll change rotation just with the blindside procs; but nice to be able to reset exsang at least

p lame no practice tool though for sure

[gentle gyro]

i need to develop some muscle memory for openers, I can't just read the sequence and pull it off instantly. just takes a couple tries, but still annoying

to wait for deathmark every time

[hollow vault]

yeah proving grounds is the only way afaik to reset cds, could just ignore bs procs and hit mut like normal

[undone eagle]

guys

could someone explain why i got green logs on Hc sark when i did 80k DPS?

i killed 18 may just like these guys

i dont rly understand how logs work but why ??

its all about parsing around same ilvl?

[flat kiln]

When you look at top 100 rankings WCL color codes by top 25 pink, top 100 orange, etc. But the actual color is just based on your % from all the kills. Only 200 public logs so if you're rank 175/200 it'll be green

[grim jay]

noone cares about ilvl parses

they are ass

[subtle tundra]

this guy smart!

[undone eagle]

i hope not xD

[spice spire]

Not that many have killed yet

[drifting cloud]

the ranking being purple doesnt mean anything

[undone eagle]

but if we say 500+ people killed it and most of them are under 80k

[spice spire]

Wouldn’t 175/200 be gray

[drifting cloud]

500 havent killed tho

it has 224 logs

[undone eagle]

nono in the upcoming weeks, ill still be at same number cuz it logged 18 may right?

[flat kiln]

true

[spice spire]

Oh you used an example

[undone eagle]

yee xD

[spice spire]

I thought that was the direct bit

[uneven hamlet]

rank 1 is 106k+ I think

most are private

[tardy oak]

if im gearing and have a baby rogue what would be a good trinket to craft in the interim before I start farming for bis gear? an alch stone? one of the idols?

[spice spire]

Uh one or the darkmoom decks iirc

[cunning leaf]

sin simming 133k now on fuu s spreadsheet :O, anybody care to explain ?

[balmy condor]

3500 words of theorycrafting just to get hit with it

hate to see it

[cunning leaf]

so short answer sepsis, ty!

[subtle tundra]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[storm forum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[storm forum]

Optimizations making my boy Kingsbane suffer

[balmy condor]

kingsbane gained

[storm forum]

Gained less than the other builds it seems.

[balmy condor]

oh for sure

but gains are gains

[storm forum]

Gained -% on the sheet

[hollow vault]

be the change you want to see

[storm forum]

Let me doom pls

[royal lantern]

kingsbane RISING?????

[spice spire]

No

[fleet pagoda]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[toxic burrow]

I miss the days when my guild had two enhancement shamans. One rerolled to the FotM Paladin (he had also chosen shaman back then since it was FotM as well). The other went elemental because "we have too muć melee dps." From two Windfuries to none.

[woeful wigeon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[keen spruce]

do we still need to use the custom apl or is raidbots up to date now with sepsis logic n stuff?

[balmy condor]

the pin will update

[safe swift]

what is our best stats atm in s2 ?

crit / mastery = versa?

[pseudo hamlet]

crit >=mast > haste>vers I guess

[flat kiln]

But there's just no way around simming with current stat prio. Haste is my best stat atm

[toxic burrow]

Nothing to see here.

[safe swift]

and for crafting it's slimy boots and toxified patch in bracers or waist ?

[fleet pagoda]

something that won't occupy a potential tier slot i'd presume

unless you're down bad on gold you can always change where that emblishment is

[spice spire]

I saw that

[thorn fjord]

swapping from cow

It’s a shit race

What y’all think orc or nelf

[fleet pagoda]

@balmy condor hey dude thank you for all the updates and communicating the sepsis updates/nuances of running it ❤️

[fleet pagoda]

if you do a lot of M+ nelf is huge value. especially with iron wire

[balmy condor]

np

[royal lantern]

🦊

[viscid spear]

💅

[thorn fjord]

I’m a subber

Prob a nelf angle I guess

[royal lantern]

our tc is vulpera

question over

[fast stag]

Hi, I start the game (1 month) I play rogue assa. Currently I have an ilvl of 417 for you my average DPS should be how much on a dungeon? Because I think I'm under it.

[fleet pagoda]

that's even bigger value than night elf

[spice spire]

Loaded question. There’s a lot of variables that go into how your DPS goes.
That being said, if you’re below like 60k, somethings gone wrong

[fast stag]

I am French, is there a French on the server who knows the class well and who would be kindly to give me some advice? Thank you!

[toxic burrow]

Hey, what's that over there?

Garrotes.

Just having a hard time beating a sub rogue, especially since he's 8ilvls higher and the gear gap keeps widening.

[spice spire]

Pay the priest to yoink him

[fast stag]

I am between 50 and 70k maximum. . Overall

[runic hinge]

I use the engi toy to swap to vulpera whenever I can. Meld too good tho

[thorn fjord]

I just dont want to lose the crit

But i keep dying to shit on account of the shitty Tauren hit box and not being used to it i guess

alot of funky shit happens in keys where it looks like im outside of the mechanic but i still take dmg

[runic hinge]

Nelf does flips. Vulpera does flips. That’s pretty much your options

[storm forum]

Cowards play dwarves for bleed removal

[toxic burrow]

Impossible. He's the favored child. Hell, he's already getting Blessing of Summer from another of his buddies.

[storm forum]

You have to make it sound like it's beneficial

Tell them shadowstrike does bonus damage if it blinks you to the target

[toxic burrow]

Lol. But what type of low-down, dirty rogue would just lie like that?

Taking notes.

[royal lantern]

worgen has flips aswell btw

they even had BACKFLIPS

but blizz changed that into normal frontflips during bfa

[runic hinge]

Yeah but their armor is ugly

Well, how they look. Also they run weird.

This is all subjective obviously. But I’m pretty partial to Nelf.

I did 8 flips in a row once

[royal lantern]

could be male belf sprint/stealth

[runic hinge]

I have only played female. Even when I was horde I used the haunted locket to be female Nelf. I think the animations are the best

https://www.wowhead.com/item=68806/kalythas-haunted-locket

30 minute duration with 15 minute cd is op

[weak horizon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[wispy hazel]

is it worth to craft the slime boots before a weapon if I dont have an enhanced crest or whatever

[balmy condor]

doubt it

[main vessel]

Is it worth it to play assassination when I can just not

[ebon notch]

[gusty mirage]

I'll kiss you on the mouth

[main vessel]

[spice spire]

It is

Because then you can hang out here for info and shitpost

[storm belfry]

Human or Nelf

Those are the two I live by for rogue

[storm belfry]

Me first!

[main vessel]

I got dibs

[storm belfry]

How bout we kiss first oxi can get second??

[main vessel]

I like the way you think

[storm belfry]

[spice spire]

🤨

[honest mantle]

Female Nelf master race

[hollow cedar]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[versed mica]

Sin wants to get rid of eggnog ring yeah?

[gusty mirage]

eventually yeah

[lost sentinel]

the sin ST raid double poison rotation hasn't really changed, right?

[wide bolt]

Is raidbots up to date with all the sepsis stuff?

[versed mica]

It does, you have to rotate your character 360 degrees before each envenom

[wide bolt]

wait nvm i see the custom apl in pins

[versed mica]

That's why it's called a rotation you see

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

The sepsis 360

[gusty mirage]

that's one way to increase the apm

keep you on your toes, if you will

[versed mica]

New .5% minmax, rotate when applying poisons to your weapons

By the way, I'm gonna try macroing this to envenom:

https://www.wowhead.com/item=200160/notfars-favorite-food

[thorn fjord]

What race is your rogue @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

night elf

[vapid sierra]

i got some questions about sepsis

first does anyone have a wa to track the free stealth ability?

and in the opener after we do sep>dm>blah>blah>garrote

is that garrote the first or second sep garrote

[proud basin]

i believe there is pins about the opner

[vapid sierra]

well i read them

and they didnt ansswer the question

[proud basin]

there was a WA floating aroud somewhere

prolly on wago as well

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/a4RNXiGN8

[storm belfry]

Pucker up pretty boy. You are next

[vapid sierra]

fuck i use guys edit for that

ill use that for sin and the other one for outlaw

[balmy condor]

This is answerable by just reading sepsis tooltip my guy

[vapid sierra]

the first im guessing?

[balmy condor]

If you cast sepsis

[vapid sierra]

im just double checking

[balmy condor]

You get 1

You use that

Sepsis ends 10 seconds later

You get the second

[weak horizon]

anyone else feel like the annulet procs vary a lot from pull to pull?

[balmy condor]

You hold it

[balmy condor]

It be like that

[vapid sierra]

ah so the big rings on your edited weak is just the second one?

[weak horizon]

can't wait until i can drop this annulet

[balmy condor]

The rings are the timer

[spice spire]

Say less

[balmy condor]

If it gets into the big section and turns red, you’re good to refresh

[vapid sierra]

kk ty

[weak horizon]

i know the pin says the annulet is bis, but the sim sheet doesn't use annulet, is it basically even with other best options?

[balmy condor]

It’s like -0.2

You have to have the 450 ring off mythic end boss

[weak horizon]

oh damn

[balmy condor]

And then pull 1 of 3 rings out of your vault at 447

And then you can replace it

Well, once you socket them too

[weak horizon]

lmfao

i see why it's listed as bis in the pin now

[balmy condor]

So get CE, farm mythic sark for the ring, fill +20 vaults until your eyes bleed praying for a drop, then get 2 shit vaults so you can socket them

And then you’ll replace annulet

And if you want to replace it in keys, you repeat the process but you need a different 447 ring from your vault

Ain’t that fun

[spice spire]

I love rings that stay bis

From .7 patches

[violet talon]

Why is everyone in a hurry to replace annulet? It’s basically bis and you already have it. One less slot to worry about imo.

[weak horizon]

kinda surprised they haven't nerfed it since they explicitly said they didn't want it to be bis in this tier

i think for me it's how much my damage swings pull to pull based on its procs

[violet talon]

They explicitly said they DID expect it to be relevant throughout the tier…

[weak horizon]

right

but not bis

[storm belfry]

Cause holding onto old gear is shit

I’m not playing classic here

I’m playing current WoW

I want to get upgrades

[versed mica]

And why do you want upgrades?

Current WoW is all about never getting the drops you want

[storm belfry]

[violet talon]

WoW armory has shown it as level 443 since it came out. They should just hot patch it to make that ilvl show in game. Problem resolved for ilvl chasers.

[storm belfry]

Not chasing ilvl. Just stupid design to have old gear remain bis in current content

[versed mica]

I don't mind it tbh. Just one less thing to worry about honestly lmao

I also like the extra self healing from blood stone

I'm bad at dodging mechanics so it's bis for me to live

[spice spire]

That’s the only part I like.
It’s like the 9.1 stones from shadowlands.
I hated winds of winter but missed the shielding 🙂

[oak sky]

Acquisition was dog the crit storing rng double dipping was dog

[storm belfry]

I wouldn’t mind it. But we have like 3 pieces

[oak sky]

But the mini buffs were definitely fun

[storm belfry]

That are basically bis all season

That’s p lame

[oak sky]

Judt a liytle thing to grt

Just a little thing to get

Jesus

Stroking

[storm belfry]

Are you okay bro

[oak sky]

(My cock)

[storm belfry]

Have me worried

[oak sky]

Its just mobile kb

[storm belfry]

[oak sky]

Thats me when i

[versed mica]

Onyx cock ring

[violet talon]

What three pieces are bis that you aren’t upgrading?

[main vessel]

I can do this without playing assassination

[spice spire]

[violet talon]

There’s annulet. That’s it. Everything else you’ll be upgrading or replacing.

[storm belfry]

Well yeah 2 sorry

Forgot we can drop the fire ring

Bless

[versed mica]

Outlaw got me holding into heroic eggnog ring

[storm belfry]

The other for m+ is boon. Even tho I love it just make some damn good trinkets man.

[versed mica]

[spice spire]

HEROIC

Nah delete outlaw

[storm belfry]

Wait heroic?

That’s just sad

[spice spire]

Mines good for a long time because mythic + socket

But god damn

[versed mica]

I could replace it at some point I think? But I still got it lmao

[storm belfry]

Not as sad as my guild doing weekly M Eranog runs for mains

[spice spire]

Us this weekend

[versed mica]

At least it has a socket on it

[storm belfry]

We are doing it on our optional nights

But you know everyone is showing up LOL

[spice spire]

Yeah same

Sunday

[storm belfry]

Bless you

[versed mica]

I thought your PFP was nsfw for like 5 minutes

[storm belfry]

Bro what

LMAO

What the hell could it be

[versed mica]

I thought he was SUCJING COCK

[storm belfry]

LOL bastard

[versed mica]

LMAO

[storm belfry]

Don’t do Mikey the goat like that man

[versed mica]

Tbf I'm on my phone so your PFP is tiny

[storm belfry]

Yeah same atm

At work

[versed mica]

Same

Sneaking on your phone to look at nsfw discord pfps be like

[storm belfry]

KEKW

nah I ain’t doing shit

I am watching ellesmere atm

On the work pc

It’s slow

[versed mica]

They don't monitor your computer to see if you working?

[storm belfry]

I am the manager at a boutique (fancy antique) hotel so no

Just waiting to close at this point

[versed mica]

Sounds like a chill gig

[storm belfry]

Yeah it’s slow season rn

[versed mica]

I sorta do that

Except it's a house not a hotel

[proud basin]

what do we do for big dam outside of IC in M+?

[versed mica]

And they aren't guestz, they are adults with mental illness

[storm belfry]

We own a house also as a bed and breakfast but I do nothing for it lmao

Oh damn

[runic hinge]

Pray

[rocky sluice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[storm belfry]

Depending on target count I open w a few garrotes on mobs then finish that max cp w CT. Then I fok rupture say 3 targets in a pack of 5 or 6 then just fok CT if moving or fok evenom if pack is staying still

[proud basin]

gotcha, i mean i sorta do the same but i feel i cant keep up.

would really not like to have to be sub lol

[storm belfry]

I mean it may feel lack luster for sure

But I never feel like I’m behind

[proud basin]

untill you look at the meters XD

[storm belfry]

No I keep up for the most part

Unless I’m with a priest and they are feeding the lock PI but then I just fall behind on bosses a bit

But overall end of dungeon I’m right there w em

Granted these ppl aren’t amazing players most likely but still. Even last season Doing 23/24 I never felt behind in dps

[proud basin]

gotcha. i must hit buttons harder then lol

[main vessel]

ain't nothin wrong with doing that for the homies

[spice spire]

Topple confirmed homiesexual respect

[main vessel]

[vapid sierra]

when do we drop shrouded suffocation for 3 zoldycks?

just when we want more low hp execute?

[lost sentinel]

can the sarkareth black hole be immune with cloak of shadows?

w/e the soak one is called

embrace I think

[ionic matrix]

@lost sentinel almost sure it can.

Believe we had a mage take it and block on our heroic kill

But cant confirm 100%

[somber fractal]

it can. i have

[tiny axle]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[brazen zodiac]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[oak tangle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[ionic matrix]

need some help boys

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KqDVRFZQPGt9CvAn/#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=27&start=18282&end=314359

sim says my test dummy is 79.5

major discrepancy seems to be in deathmark damage being 33% lower than sim

raidbots.com/simbot/report/eT1s7RZn9shtWd6ccGwnjp

[oak tangle]

missed the sepsis garrote before exs/dm

[ionic matrix]

on third deathmark?

[oak tangle]

first

and your second dm is like delayed 30s

also nvm on the delay

[ionic matrix]

its not delayed, the combat log didnt start until like 18 seconds because im at dummy and someone else was hitting for 18 seconds before I started.

[oak tangle]

din't realise the fight timer didn't start at 0

[ionic matrix]

all good

yeah I see my garrote fuck up in opener

thanks

[fallen raven]

how is 2pc+2pc for m+ generally? cause iirc the voti 4pc was huge and the 2pc sucked in dslice?

[oak tangle]

on this one you didn't refresh the rupture before exsang

[frigid kestrel]

Can we immune Door slam on Assault?

With CoS or Evasion?

[balmy condor]

I doubt you’d notice much of a difference between any combo

[fallen raven]

yeah probably true, especially with ilvl diff

i stopped playing relatively early in s1 too so i've still got 395 shoulders

[tawny pike]

is the shoulder supposed to be our offpiece on the tierset?

[royal lantern]

there is not really a offpiece for assa

[tawny pike]

we're supposed to use a 5 piece?

[fallen raven]

probably easiest to just put crafted gear in the remaining slot

use it for toxified patch

[tawny pike]

this is getting confusing...

from what i read on the guides it said that we're supposed to craft dagger > slimy boots > wrists with toxified patch

it didn't mention any other crafts

[fleet pagoda]

to get the most out of your boots, you'll want another crafted item to use the toxic patch. i think it's assumed you have a crafted bracers/belt from previous season that you can upgrade at some point in this season

[fallen raven]

yeah any item can be used for the patch

[keen spruce]

not a wep

but otherwise yes

[fleet pagoda]

nor the boots themselves

[keen spruce]

probably don't use a cloak in case of sark cloak

and he also drops a 450 belt

so ideally bracers

but for most people it doesn't really matter

and you can recraft later

[fleet pagoda]

otherwise probably just get whatever tier you can and fill in the last spot and collect gear as you go so you can shuffle and optimize as you get better stuff 🙂

[fallen raven]

yeah wrist/belt are the safest, especially if you're unlucky and get 4pc after the third spark

but you can't really mess up too hard

[fleet pagoda]

use sims helps a lot when in between starting fresh and chasing the bis loadout

[tawny pike]

i thought we were supposed to go like

Slimy Boots + Spore Colony Shoulders

[balmy condor]

Shoulders are bugged

[tawny pike]

oh i see

[indigo totem]

If you dont plan on doing M Sarky, belt is fine for toxic patch as highest ilvl items wont likely be a thing to worry about, afaik bis lists assume full mythic/high key clears

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean if you’re not mythic raiding

You actually just full craft every slot that isn’t tier

Double daggers, probably helm, equip the other 4 tier, wrist with toxic, cloak, belt, slimy boots, craft yourself 2 rings, a darkmoon trinket, and then bum a trinket from a random +12 you stumbled through drunk at 3:30am on a Thursday

And you’re 445 equipped

GG

[oak tangle]

currently chillin at 433 on my spriest having won no loot from heroic and not touched mythic

[balmy condor]

Yeah

It’s actually free

This is probably the most casual friendly gearing system they’ve ever introduced

Shit is crazy

[oak tangle]

i told my raiders i expect 420 for heroic raid this week

kek

drakes get you free 424

[balmy condor]

We reclear normal next week because it upgrades to 441

Mythic gear

Out of normal

Insane

[oak sky]

nah normal caps at 337

437

[balmy condor]

close enough

[oak sky]

[oak tangle]

what's 4 ilvl at the end of the day

[runic hinge]

We act like it’s a lot but my friend wouldn’t recraft his lariat from q4 to q5 because he said it didn’t matter. And maybe he was right. He’s also poor af so he probably couldn’t afford it.

[gusty mirage]

at the rate most people do content

he's right

it doesn't

[runic hinge]

For sure. It’s like 150 dps on 5 minute patchwerk or something like that. But I am not gonna be the dude rocking q4. I’m gonna green parse in my max level crafted stuff.

And then I’m gonna call him poor

[gusty mirage]

BASED

[fallen raven]

yeah it definitely doesn't matter, but crafting's a thing where you can easily get the extra ilvl

whereas i'm probably not gonna run hoi dozens more times hoping for a hero track trinket for the extra 4 ilvl

[runic hinge]

Same. I pulled a champion outta there first run and I’m not gonna be in there trying for that little upgrade. But if it happens good enough.

[gilded seal]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

@storm forum see, look, kingsbane isn't even red anymore

it's yellow now

[storm forum]

Let's fucking gooooooo

[red atlas]

is iredeus fragment good for sin?

[balmy condor]

one of the best

it is oversimming a bit though

[hexed basin]

u like raid horn?

[balmy condor]

no

hate it actually

an aoe trinket that's targeted on you, that does damage to you

and the damage isn't even good

terrible

[wide ridge]

the secret to get a 447 irideus frag on vault is to upgrade one to 441 the day before

[pure moth]

^ exactly

[balmy condor]

and then it gets fixed in sims and it drops like a fucking stone on the rankings and I can pepelaugh everyone for farming ti

I actually dont know how much of an impact it has

it didn't seem to bad with sbs exsang

but we mutilate a lot more with sepsis now

so I'm like

a little scared

[supple snow]

I have it. It’s sitting in my bag while I’m still using Icon and the new green raid trinket.

No Idea what it’s called

[balmy condor]

might get some slurs in my dm's from angry wowhead users who will blame me personally for saying the trinket is okay in my guide

that's always fun

[wide ridge]

what

that actually happens?

no shot

[supple snow]

Just exang frag and take your hands off keyboard. GAINS. 😂

[balmy condor]

I updated my guide one time because the info was slightly out of date from current theorycrafting

and like it changed the legendary recommendation

during shadowlands

so dude just went into my dm's and ripped a hard r

[wide ridge]

some ppl are just unhinged

weirdos

[balmy condor]

yeh

idk

people just don't really understand how changes work in the game

just because it's 10.1 now

and it was 10.1 two weeks ago

doesn't mean it's the same thing

one hotfix to put sepsis on mastery whitelist

that's like a 40% buff to sepsis

[wide ridge]

facts

[balmy condor]

if the patch notes said "sepsis damage increased by 40%"

people would lose their shit

but the average wowhead user won't see that

they're like oh it's a hotfix

and then get surprised when sepsis just ramps out of nowhere

and it's not like I don't understand, trying to keep up with every bleeding edge new TC find, its rough

even regulars in ravenholdt can't keep up sometimes, even I can't

but you just gotta take it as it comes ya know

breathe a little

[eternal vortex]

honestly its a breath of fresh air playing something else beside the usual sbs ngl i know its basicly the same with a bit difference but then again

[wide ridge]

yeah i love sepsis

haven't tried the sepsis exsang yet

[balmy condor]

I just feel like people don't know how fast things move, like "oh is there a video guide"

[eternal vortex]

i know it was a shit ton of work for u and thank you for your hard work

[balmy condor]

any video guide on assassination from before this monday

is out of date

[wide ridge]

[balmy condor]

like you're a youtuber, you release a 10.1 guide on patch day

get fucked idiot

[wide ridge]

time to make a click baity thumbnail and make another video

SEPSIS BIS NOW? WHAT??!

[balmy condor]

INSANE NEW ASSASSINATION BUILD????

[supple snow]

Just do youtube shorts and send 5 vids a day.

[balmy condor]

the real tech

I spend an hour writing up a 2500 word explanation about sepsis and why it's better now and how to play it

and there's still questions that people ask rightfully so that aren't answered in it

just take that

and put it into a 35 second youtube short

send it bois

idk, it's not like I don't want to make video content for people

I think it would be very helpful sometimes

but trying to find 1. the time for it, and 2. the right format and delivery

holy fuck

[spice spire]

The amount of effort would be insane

[supple snow]

😂 sepsis BiS now. The new assassination build is sepsis and easy to play. Just press it on CD

One vid done

Next

[spice spire]

Like legitimately

[wide ridge]

and we appreciate every bit of effort there whispyr

[balmy condor]

like how do you take a 25 minute script

and make it into a video

that doesn't instantly turn into garbage the next hotfix

[spice spire]

Until someone else finds a small 1.0% gain

[balmy condor]

and still keep watch time up

cause you know someone will fast forward

and miss everything

[spice spire]

Also rework supposedly in 10.1.5

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Which is like

[balmy condor]

do not speak of 10.1.5

[spice spire]

A month away

[supple snow]

So you know how we use sepsis now? If not watch my previous video. It’s better to use garrote on proc.

Second video do e. Next

[spice spire]

Or whenever catalyst opens probably

[balmy condor]

10.1.5 is a trigger word for me

you're invading my safe space

[wide ridge]

no way

[balmy condor]

with your trigger word

[eternal vortex]

oh shit i completly forgot about 10.1.5

[balmy condor]

it's at least 2 months dw

[wide ridge]

do we even know 10.1.5 changes for rogues?

[balmy condor]

but like

I can't wait for realz to drop a nuke

[wide ridge]

im afraid

[eternal vortex]

we better get some wing or something and make assa great in m+

[spice spire]

I started it

[spice spire]

Mf got 25 unanswered kills

Damn

[wide ridge]

reduce deathmark cd to 1min like they did with paladin wings Pog

[eternal vortex]

[spice spire]

The decrease deathmark time legendary becomes a capstone

[balmy condor]

gonna make assa channel look like the golden guardians after a baron fight on god

[eternal vortex]

and then the reality hits and assa gets 0 changes

[spice spire]

REAL

Do not ever deny Nicholas “Inero” smith his goated status ty

[supple snow]

Lole

NA lol gaming

[balmy condor]

hey hey

we have uh

2015 doublelift

and uh

xmithy for one split

and uhhhhhh

that's it

end of list

[eternal vortex]

NA lol scene

[supple snow]

Don’t forget about all the imports

[wide ridge]

and tyler1 the goat

[eternal vortex]

EU is as bad as NA rn

[supple snow]

Can’t say this is totally wrong.

Eu is looking trash laltely

[eternal vortex]

ye, since 2020 its a downhill

like a very steep one

[balmy condor]

Like assa

Damn

Gottem

You’re all losers

(I’m Better than you)

(Don’t look at my parses to verify that claim)

[eternal vortex]

[supple snow]

Yeah specially 18-20 was hope

[eternal vortex]

if G2 wouldve win in 2019 it would be a lot different i think