yeah but I only post here
#assassination
red atlas
does sepsis allows improved garrote to be used?
main vessel
why don't you post in my ass
gusty mirage
does sepsis allows improved garrote to be used?
yes
runic hinge
Chef up in the kitchen
signal sonnet
is there a list for what crafted gear we should focus, as far as embellishments go? If I'm blind and overlooking it, do let me know, too.
main vessel
you laugh, but.....
is the anvil hardening?
orchid wind
hey guys, got a question about my sim, so i'm pretty bad at simming. but i simmed my old 4p, with new 2p/2p so 2p/2p is stronger for me basically yea ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3pkybo3crHjad2cYkUAeXs
regal crest
Is the difference between Ensang and Fatal Concoction significant? I feel like I keep fumbling my ensang/deathmark
balmy condor
hey guys, got a question about my sim, so i'm pretty bad at simming. but i simme...
that's what it say yeh
orchid wind
that's what it say yeh
tysm
balmy condor
Is the difference between Ensang and Fatal Concoction significant? I feel like I...
f...fatal conc?
that should never even be a choice to take
idle inlet
How important is it to keep track of my envenom buff uptime? Should I be trying hard to keep uptime on it?
balmy condor
irrelevant importance
you're gonna be clipping it
basically constantly
because you have to dump cp/energy
regal crest
f...fatal conc?
Wasn't there another talent we could be take last tier?
median flicker
Hey! So I've used Wow analyzer to look at my logs, However I dont see what I'm kinda doing wrong rotationally. I mean sure my garrote and rupture uptime could be a bit better however my sim is saying i should be at 85k. However im hitting like 65-70ish I'm Cedren https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qnBPWAczmbj8KDQF#type=summary&boss=-2&difficulty=0
Any big pointers or like anything that im personally doing poorly on would be wonderful feedback.
balmy condor
Wasn't there another talent we could be take last tier?
improved poison if anything
spreadsheet has non-exsang options for every build though
hexed basin
Zaqali mythic is buggd right now right?
balmy condor
wasn't bugged for us
pastel garnet
Yo when doing a like 3-5 min raid boss should i save my 2nd Deathmark for 1 min to line up with exsanguinate or just use on cd?
hexed basin
wasn't bugged for us
are phoenixs there in p2? lioke 15 of them
grim tangle
they do no damage
grim tangle
well not literally zero, but it's very little
idle inlet
@median flicker your energy usage could be better and you could use more shivs. Also you might of lost damage doing mechanics too and you didn't use a potion
balmy condor
was between 13-18% of our damage taken in p2
on our kill was about 15%
definitely scary when they pop their damage and you gotta soak
median flicker
<@145430544161701888> your energy usage could be better and you could use more s...
I apologize if I sound ignorant but when u say my energy usage what would you mean?
idle inlet
So you had times where you had full energy and didn't use it so you lost out on energy that you were making while capped
You lost 520 energy in your kazzara fight
median flicker
Oh jeez ok. Idk if the wow analyzer is counting when i died on our kill at around 5 mins or not.
idle inlet
It doesn't matter cuz you don't generate energy when you are dead lol
Also for some reason I can't pull up your almagmation chamber kill on wow analyzer
Another thing to look out for is make sure all your sim settings are correct and raidbots isn't giving you any buffs that you didn't have in your fight
median flicker
Hm ok I dont think anything was generally wrong w/ the sim i double checked it. But capping energy is def not good lol. did you happen to notice anything else?
idle inlet
Not really honestly I have the same issue you do. Missing damage and I don't know where it is lol
wind condor
Anyone ripped aotc? We got 3/9 tn so gonna try for aotc and then experiments monday, not sure how long sark takes tho
idle inlet
I'm just wondering how close to your simmed dps do you have to get to be doing good
balmy condor
Anyone ripped aotc? We got 3/9 tn so gonna try for aotc and then experiments mon...
Sark is easier than amalg
wind condor
Oh hell yeah. I really enjoy the tuning this tier, seems like rashok taking sub 30 pulls for the big boys too
Give me a 6 week tier plz
hexed basin
okay well wtf tht fight was insane on mythic Zaqali... got kill on last pull of night
phoenixs and adds go ham
balmy condor
Oh hell yeah. I really enjoy the tuning this tier, seems like rashok taking sub ...
If it’s like heroic then they’ll hit zskarn/nelth and it’ll wreck
spare lodge
When to pop Irideus Fragment in opener? Exsan build atm
balmy condor
Macro it into dm
spare lodge
merci :))
signal sonnet
lemme rephrase my earlier question - is there a specific item to target for the toxified armor patch? or will any crafted suffice?
signal sonnet
thanks
pastel garnet
Yo when doing a like 3-5 min raid boss should i save my 2nd Deathmark for 1 min ...
any1 know?
balmy condor
Using cooldowns together is always better than not using cooldowns together
As long as you aren’t missing a cast
pastel garnet
but its a whole ass min tho?
frozen gorge
4 min : delay exsang / 3 min : delay dm
pastel garnet
ah okay ty
balmy condor
but its a whole ass min tho?
“As long as you aren’t missing a cast”
If a fight is less than 2 minutes
You’re not getting a second Deathmark
If a fights less than 4, you’re not getting a third
pastel garnet
❤️ ty
runic hinge
Can’t miss a cast of exsang if you don’t run exsang
next dune
This is the way
balmy condor
So true
gaunt moat
Better forget about exsang, surly it's gone in 10.1.5 
runic hinge
And tbh on prog I don’t like running it anyways because I’m more likely to mess it up than have it be that beneficial
runic hinge
Better forget about exsang, surly it's gone in 10.1.5 <:starege:9231972720644260...
I hope you’re right
subtle tundra
Better forget about exsang, surly it's gone in 10.1.5 <:starege:9231972720644260...
I will not cause I'll have to play it in m+
steel spire
damn assas kinda fucks with 2p
median flicker
Just wait till 10.2 we will do dmg then
balmy condor
damn assas kinda fucks with 2p
What’s it fucking
oak sky
your dad
gaunt moat
HUGE
gusty mirage
And heroic 2+2 is 0.3%better for me
huge gains
mine was 0.8%
I could really feel the fucking
gaunt moat
do you think it's worth using my aspect crests on dagger?
I'm too afraid to use any crests at all. didn't upgrade a single item.
steel spire
had a rogue doing well with 2p +2p and i couldnt tell if he was spamin ct
gusty mirage
do you think it's worth using my aspect crests on dagger?
I'm too afraid to use ...
yes
steel spire
looked like bladeflurry
gusty mirage
447 dagger will be used until you get the 450 from mythic sark
eventually you'll be drowning in aspect crests
gaunt moat
i thought hero tier goes to 441
gaunt moat
oh, the crafted one, i see.
gusty mirage
yea
gaunt moat
Didn't sim yet, but is offhand worth it?
gaunt moat
got some work orders to get to 
silk bane
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
gaunt moat
If you thought trying to time CDs for optimal use in simc was bad.
wait until augment evoker.
gusty mirage
just wait for the spreadsheet
of who gets more dps w/ the cdr
or the 80000 people asking for it
every tier
cold spoke
god that spec is so dumb
gusty mirage
warlocks and mages
you think that
but people come in here asking for the most random spreadsheet floating around
gaunt moat
warlocks and mages
damn you, i was gonna write "let's not pretend it's not gonna be warlocks"
steel spire
prob warriors and monks
royal lantern
gaslighting the world into "im the best and BALANCED around it!!!!!!!!" until they get it
like always
and yeha
gusty mirage
"Does anyone have the spreadsheet on how much DPS assassination gains when it's a full moon and my enhancement shaman scratches his left ear 2 times before dropping WFT?"
royal lantern
horrible horrible spec idea
gaunt moat
should just blacklist any log with augmenter
ancient rain
Should lose 1 day of game time when u pick up a cdr orb
cold spoke
i mean the idea is ok but
cold spoke
doubt it ll work out very well
cold spoke
weird that they went for it despite how hated pi is
cold spoke
cant wait for another prog without windfury
steel spire
if lock lost demo for dh priest should lose pi to simp lizard
balmy condor
cant wait for another prog without windfury
I was wondering why I’m not in windfury, and then realized I have a frost dk, 2 warriors, and a feral druid that have prio
strange python
just lie and say its better for you
cold spoke
our enhance dont want to play
but somehow we dont have a replacement for 2 tiers
1/3 bosses with wf so far
subtle tundra
I was wondering why I’m not in windfury, and then realized I have a frost dk, 2 ...
You can literally rig the sim
balmy condor
Yeh but I have something called integrity
subtle tundra
I dont
gusty mirage
I was wondering why I’m not in windfury, and then realized I have a frost dk, 2 ...
assassination gets more than fury does though
subtle tundra
Uhhc it's dr atnos
gusty mirage
green juniper
8 normal 5 hc bosses and 0 drop …
cold spoke
any enhance that wants to join my raid pls join i need windfury
gusty mirage
this man trying to poach depresso rogues
scenic thunder
What are the 2 best current embalishments for assassination?
cold spoke
balmy condor
What are the 2 best current embalishments for assassination?
The ones in the pins
cold spoke
@balmy condor how did mythic go
balmy condor
you have 2 fury warriors how are they getting wft over you
Cause the difference is actually 0
grim tangle
I'm switching to sub if I ever lose wft
cold spoke
I'm switching to sub if I ever lose wft
great solution 
id rather be benched than do prog without wft
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> how did mythic go
We yolo’d kazz, then yolo’d assault (we wiped for an hour), then had a bad strat on amalg for 30 min
And then didn’t kill
cold spoke
blazing jewel
We yolo’d kazz, then yolo’d assault (we wiped for an hour), then had a bad strat...
did you get daggers?
blazing jewel
I just finished splits and the only item I got was heroic anvil lmfao
scenic thunder
The ones in the pins
So is the slimy boots and the toxified armor patch right?Cool
Its worth to put the armor patch in my crafted dagger?Or are we going to replace quickly?
balmy condor
if you can find a way to get the patch onto a dagger then feel free to do so
would have to have some giga sick hacks
scenic thunder
Oh, sorry for that, i didn't know that is just for some specifics slots, I'm new to this expansion
balmy condor
yeh
gotta put it on some random piece
usually bracers or boots
but boots ain't an option
hollow vault
does anyone have a garrote wa that shows true stealth/sepsis/normal
i fr have goldfish brain and overwrote tn 
gaunt moat
Luxthos's WAs do that.
I also posted here a fix for it to work with sepsis
open reef
fast Q - after sepsis expires our next garrote is with SS ?
steel ridge
I like how blizzard specifically hinted at mage, hpal and rogue redesigne in 10.1.5, yet rogue is the only one not mentioned in first set of Patchnotes 
since mages get shroud, do we get spellsteal?
or maybe bloodlust?
hollow vault
cheat baseline 
clever sapphire
No, we get to be the new support melee spec
Evoker is the ranged support, we will be melee support
true basalt
Evoker is the ranged support, we will be melee support
I’d like that
serene fossil
I like how blizzard specifically hinted at mage, hpal and rogue redesigne in 10....
Hinted at? Where?
umbral monolith
Heyo. Someone reported a sub rogue appearing as Assassination in Details, is that something anyone else has noticed?
serene fossil
Heyo. Someone reported a sub rogue appearing as Assassination in Details, is tha...
Ive seen sub rogue appear as outlaw
umbral monolith
Interesting. And you were playing Outlaw at the time?
serene fossil
Its just the little icon, when you click on the name it shows sub stuff
serene fossil
Interesting. And you were playing Outlaw at the time?
Yessur
umbral monolith
Are there any basic rotational spells that are used no matter the spec, but that have overrides on Assassin and Outlaw?
hollow vault
yeah tn omr was showing as sin on details for some reason
but breakdown law abilities like norm
tropic tundra
It happens sometime when you swap specs in one instance
umbral monolith
No
serene fossil
Are there any basic rotational spells that are used no matter the spec, but that...
Shadowstrike replaces ambush for sub
umbral monolith
It happens because of spell overrides
tropic tundra
Oh really
serene fossil
Evis doesnt exist for outlaw, its dispatch
umbral monolith
GetSpellInfo from blizz being dumb with spell names.
Dispatch would do it, and for assassin?
tropic tundra
I had the same issue with feral druid showing as other druid specs, good to know
serene fossil
Dispatch would do it, and for assassin?
Ambush doesnt exist for sub, sub has shadowstrike
umbral monolith
Interesting
cunning nest
Heyo. Someone reported a sub rogue appearing as Assassination in Details, is tha...
Happened to my on wednesday, toi
*too
umbral monolith
Ambush doesnt exist for sub, sub has shadowstrike
My apologies. I meant any spell that Assassination has that would be a direct override of a normal rogue spell that Sub uses.
serene fossil
My apologies. I meant any spell that Assassination has that would be a direct ov...
Oh, eh well idk of any except the ambush for outlaw instead of evis, sin and sub share a lot tho, maybe thats an issue too?
Well a lot is too much but they share a few
balmy condor
My apologies. I meant any spell that Assassination has that would be a direct ov...
I think the spell ID for assassinations shiv changes from subs shiv, so if the sub rogue is dispelling an enrage for example that might cause it
not quite sure how improved shiv works with that
serene fossil
Wait, maybe its the vanishes
balmy condor
vanish is the same
serene fossil
Bc i know most weakaura packs have 3 distinct vanish auras for each spec somehow
balmy condor
that's wild
serene fossil
Yep
umbral monolith
The technical reason is:
Details stores all the spells cast by a player. They used to be stored by ID, and now they are by Name. In order to convert between names and ids, GetSpellInfo is used.
The issue is: GetSpellInfo, when used to lookup by Name, will return spells that are overridden. So Outlaw would see Evis as Dispatch, even if you looked up Evis.
Sooo, I need to update the list it sounds
You know what would be SUPER from Blizz? A WAY TO FIND OUT SPECS AND PET OWNERSHIP WITHOUT HAVING TO GUESS
pseudo hamlet
Heyo. Someone reported a sub rogue appearing as Assassination in Details, is tha...
If it's just you then you can try to report it. If it's someone - don't worry, other people can change their names/icons in Details afaik.
umbral monolith
If it's just you then you can try to report it. If it's someone - don't worry, o...
I'm a details dev
royal lantern
details is just doing funky stufd, did the same at DF launch iirc
idk, sorted itself out later on 
umbral monolith
That's cause I fixed it!
royal lantern
pseudo hamlet
I'm a details dev
Ok, but just saying - if you saw someone with sub icon, even though he was Assa - they could just change it 😄
balmy condor
eazye what are you on about lmao
umbral monolith
Changing the spec icon, no.
pseudo hamlet
You cannot change spec icon in the details? 😮
Ok I see that I can only change the name, lol, my bad, sorry just woke up
I could have sworn there was an option somewhere to change the spec icon, must have mistaken it with some other addon
hollow vault
it's ok gm eazye
steel ridge
Hinted at? Where?
In the preview bluepost
river lichen
assa now the top class?
distant hinge
Shadow Priest is
river lichen
rogue class i meant
umbral monolith
I could have sworn there was an option somewhere to change the spec icon, must h...
I believe nicknames can add an icon next to the name, but not replace the spec one.
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
subtle tundra
What's the chances our 4p gets changed now
brazen zodiac
aw :c
tacit wedge
the exsang opener is garrote>snd>garrote>rupture>echo>garrote>vanish>garrote so vanish will always be synced with deathmark, right?
balmy condor
that's the worse dps version, but it sync, yes
tacit wedge
that's the worse dps version, but it sync, yes
i mean, that's the one you suggest in the guide 
the better one is using vanish AFTER exsang?
tacit wedge
our kill timers are all under 5min 
balmy condor
that's fine
it's still an upgrade
as long as you're able to get the full benefit of deathmark at 2:15 rather than 2:00
pseudo hamlet
the exsang opener is garrote>snd>garrote>rupture>echo>garrote>vanish>garrote so ...
Shouldn't the third Garrote be actually Rupture and SBS before the vanish in that sequence? 
true garden
why all the garrote ?
tacit wedge
Shouldn't the third Garrote be actually Rupture and SBS before the vanish in tha...
ye mb
so hit exsang>deathmark straight after SBS
pseudo hamlet
so hit exsang>deathmark straight after SBS
From FAQ:
pseudo hamlet
that's what i said
Exsang+DM after Vanish+Garrote, not SBS.
But yeah, can be used after SBS if you use Vanish+Garrote after Exang window(the second point from that image). 😄
marble hemlock
<:starege:923197272064426075> <:starege:923197272064426075> <:starege:9231972720...
can you make a video about openers akin to the "what is the best pet" video?
tacit wedge
Exsang+DM after Vanish+Garrote, not SBS.
what
i said if i delay vanish+garrote, the opener becomes garrote>snd>garrote>rupture>echo>rupture>SBS>exsang>DM>Vanish>Garrote
or i'm going insane
pseudo hamlet
i said if i delay vanish+garrote, the opener becomes garrote>snd>garrote>rupture...
No, no! Don't do that.
pseudo hamlet
Do not use garrote immediately after the Exsang/DM. Use it after the Garrote finishes.
tacit wedge
Do not use garrote immediately after the Exsang/DM. Use it after the Garrote fin...
bruh i'm not that clueless
i know i shouldn't overwrite a exsang dot
true garden
<:monkaGIGA:553261628301377547>
pseudo hamlet
bruh i'm not *that* clueless
I took that in consideration after seeing this message:
Better safe than sorry!
pseudo hamlet
Yeah, but not everyone knows that and sometimes you see total new players here asking the same questions and they just don't have a clue! 😄
balmy condor
you'd be surprised how little that's a given for some people
limber lion
To some people maintaining dots at 100% is not even a given
balmy condor
I got a dm last week asking if we use garrote on cooldown
tacit wedge
To some people maintaining dots at 100% is not even a given
understandable, for me it's a given since i was playing affliction before moving to sin
pseudo hamlet
How can we use garrote on CD if it requires stealth?
static glacier
Ayo I have my own home brewed non exsang opener I used last patch
flint tusk
Deathmark > exsang followed by non vanish garrote rupture right after is the only way.
Giving Whispyr an aneurism over here
balmy condor
45 energy for no upfront damage, overwriting almost 20 seconds of garrote, for 1 cp
sounds worth to me
static glacier
Gar-snd- gar -echo-rupture- sbs- box - dm - shiv - env—— whenever you want to inside dm vanish - gar - env - gar
static glacier
I reckon with sepsis I’d delay it til after shiv
royal lantern
To some people maintaining dots at 100% is not even a given
do i rupture in aoe as sub???
tacit wedge
using box in 10.1 
tacit wedge
truely is
static glacier
You’d just remove box and trink with dm if it’s buff
keen spruce
gar->KB->gar->snd->vanish->gar->dance->ambush 
tacit wedge
KB???
flint tusk
keen spruce
don't do that plz
static glacier
I personally like dance
keen spruce
i just opened the talent tree and typed things in
static glacier
It’s a new spin on things
echo surge
Hi all 🙂 I had a quick question. Is it better to 2p + 2p early on, or wait to get 4set? Would ilvl of the tier set make a difference? I am currently also using the Flaring Cowl with the Eranog ring, so swapping out the headpiece at the moment is not an option.
Thank you in advance!!
keen spruce
comes back to drop the hottest shitpost of 2023
yes chef o7
balmy condor
Hi all 🙂 I had a quick question. Is it better to 2p + 2p early on, or wait to g...
2+2 at equal ilvl should be better than old 4pc
but that's a sim question
limber lion
Hi all 🙂 I had a quick question. Is it better to 2p + 2p early on, or wait to g...
Thats a sim yourself question
tacit wedge
Hi all 🙂 I had a quick question. Is it better to 2p + 2p early on, or wait to g...
sim it
flint tusk
He’s only been away that long due to trying to create the kingsbane build from 10.0 sounds like.
tacit wedge
He’s only been away that long due to trying to create the kingsbane build from 1...
brother still stuck in Legion
pseudo hamlet
Hi all 🙂 I had a quick question. Is it better to 2p + 2p early on, or wait to g...
According to my sims the 2+2 is +0,1% difference to 4PC(from Vault) with similar ilvl. So I'd say... sim yourself! 😄
echo surge
Thank you all! Can anyone help me with how to sim this as I am very new to sims?
velvet ridge
Thistle tea should have a cast time, and a bigger mastery buff to make it feel like I pressed it
balmy condor
!simguide
prisma monolithBOT
Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights
For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.
keen spruce
I've always been here
balmy condor
just drop it into gear compare
keen spruce
we were just wiping to raz for the last month and I had nothing to type
echo surge
@balmy condor Thank you very much kind sir
keen spruce
except taht we were still wiping to raz
balmy condor
probably the easiest way at least
echo surge
Appreciate the fast assistance
tacit wedge
Thistle tea should have a cast time, and a bigger mastery buff to make it feel l...
Mezuki caught posting the worst take of the day, asked to leave #assassination
echo surge
Hahaha 😄 Last question. I saw that there is a new Sepsis build going around. This I presume is better after we get the new 4p as Sepsis is being buffed with the 4p nature damage buff correct?
versed fiber
is the assassination FAQ not updated here or am I just blind ?
balmy condor
Hahaha 😄 Last question. I saw that there is a new Sepsis build going around. Th...
depends on puzzle box mostly from what it seems
if you have it, probably worse
if you replaced it, probably equal or better
echo surge
Still with puzzlebox
balmy condor
is the assassination FAQ not updated here or am I just blind ?
that's what the pin says doesn't it?
echo surge
and grieftorch
balmy condor
yeh so sepsis probably slightly worse for you atm
echo surge
Great! Thank you
balmy condor
hey I need new glasses too
the leaves on the trees are getting fuzzy again
that's usually how I can tell
I think I'm like -2.5 now
bit yikers
versed fiber
waiting for "old man sight" to equalize mine lol
versed fiber
btw super happy with the info here btw, much appreciated ❤️
torn between playing Sin and Sub spec atm... I think I prefer Sin but the AoE cd 45sec thing on M+ just feels a bit inferior compared to Black Powder
maiden linden
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
verbal gorge
Hello guys, wanted to get into rogue and was wondering, is assassination beginner friendly?
flint tusk
I think I'm like -2.5 now
i mean rather this than being + when your younger.
you'll have 20-20 vision around 60 before needing reading glasses at like 80+ lol
tropic tundra
Hello guys, wanted to get into rogue and was wondering, is assassination beginne...
Rotation is simple, less spells than other rogue specs
shrewd plover
Hello ! the best choice for first spyke is the main hand weapon crafted ?
verbal gorge
Rotation is simple, less spells than other rogue specs
oh thank you, and what build/s do you suggest me to begin with?
tropic tundra
Wowhead/icyvein guides will provide you most information in any situations
serene fossil
In the preview bluepost
Finaaaaally found that fucking preview post again, ofc i didnt see the little word “rogues” between mages holy paldins “and more”
balmy condor
i mean rather this than being + when your younger.
you'll have 20-20 vision aro...
Seeing near is not an issue atm
But if it’s more than 2 meters from me
It’s fucked
tacit wedge
But if it’s more than 2 meters from me
damn bro, you can see further than arms length?
balmy condor
Yeah it’s based
flint tusk
Seeing near is not an issue atm
yeh negative means your eyes over focus. so as they age they get weaker back towards 20-20
i only found that out when my eye doctor recommended against me getting laser eye with -3.0 as i'd need it again at like 50 due to aging of the eye.
i just use contacts currently so i get the same benefits as no glasses
just sucks waking up xD
sharp viper
is it possible to swap weapons during m+? heard about it but never tested it
royal lantern
nope
tropic tundra
Yes
royal lantern
cant change gear unless you leave the dungeon
tropic tundra
Ret can do this to find cos demon with prot shield mog
raven knoll
You can swap weapons in combat but not in m+
tropic tundra
Try it today, bro
subtle tundra
I think it's intentional
balmy condor
yeh negative means your eyes over focus. so as they age they get weaker back tow...
I’ve been going more negative though I went from 2020 to -0.5 to -1.5 to -2.5
subtle tundra
I’ve been going more negative though <:starege:923197272064426075> I went from 2...
Negative bros
flint tusk
how old are you?
subtle tundra
I also have around - 2.5
balmy condor
23
flint tusk
yeh you've got a few years yet probs about 25-26 or around there it'll slow down or stop changing completely for a few years
balmy condor
Prayge
flint tusk
then it should slowly start going backwards over a long time
teh guy i spoke to said if you ever was to get laser eye. late 30's 40's is the best time as then you'll probably not care when you need to do it again xD
flint tusk
or don't bother at all
flint tusk
But when you randomly get astigmatism as well in 25
oof i feel you on that one 😦
flint tusk
weirdly my contact lenses fixed mine o.o
balmy condor
My glasses have a slight color correction on them because my eye doctor randomly was like “oh you see too much blue” and I’m like “oh okay then”
flint tusk
Robot eyes
bro could you imagine. it would be so cool.
hahahaaa
you Whispyr fuck your enjoyment of the colour blue xD
tropic tundra
My glasses have a slight color correction on them because my eye doctor randomly...
enchantment 100
Ye man, robot eyes are cool
flint tusk
i honestly don't think that's even a thing lol
balmy condor
Apparently it’s too much
flint tusk
everyone sees colour differently
tropic tundra
Probably some kind of color weakness or sort
balmy condor
Yeah
balmy condor
Idk, I’ve taken a billion color blindness tests and I do fine
My dads red/green blind
But then my eye doctor ran me through 3 hours of tests and bullshit
tropic tundra
Thats rough
balmy condor
Blowing air into my fucking eyeballs for fun
And then was like yep you’re farsighted and also too much blue
Rest is okay
Pick up glasses next week
Bye
flint tusk
$$$$
balmy condor
And I’m like okay thanks
tropic tundra
Tell him the air blow caused it
flint tusk
" it was never like this before i went there"
balmy condor
The first time they put me in front of the air gun
flint tusk
"try not to move"
balmy condor
I apparently wasn’t looking at the camera or whatever
tropic tundra
“The answer, is a gun”
balmy condor
And then I had to do it again
And I’m like ya no shit my eyeball moved
You just shot me
With air
tropic tundra
Are you sure you went to the doctor
balmy condor
Into my exposed eyeball
tropic tundra
Or a CIA room
echo jay
I’ve been going more negative though <:starege:923197272064426075> I went from 2...
Try being -7.5 and -8.5 #blind
balmy condor
Try being -7.5 and -8.5 #blind
I don’t think I will actually thank you
echo jay
True not recommended
royal lantern
Its more common than you think
isnt like 1 out of 5people colorblind in some form, or Something like that
most just dont know it
tropic tundra
Sis does not have this problem(probably adopted)
balmy condor
My mom needs reading glasses, my dad can’t see more then 5 feet in front of him
scenic sky
Doctor was prob a outlaw rogue
royal lantern
cus like, explain somone that they see a color "wrong" lmao
tropic tundra
most just dont know it
Yeah same thing like the possibility of shared birthday in a small group of 30
balmy condor
cus like, explain somone that they see a color "wrong" lmao
The way they did it for me was like those fucking tiktok things
Where you have a fuck ton of squares
tropic tundra
Tiktok
balmy condor
The robot wants us to suffer
tropic tundra
Break the code
balmy condor
To be fair
Sin isn’t doing THAT bad
You just gotta be able to sit in execute for a bit longer than normal
And you’re chillin
brazen rampart
Try being -7.5 and -8.5 #blind
tbf anything past like -5.0 and you basically can't tell the difference when it goes up anymore
brazen rampart
life's just a blur at that point
tropic tundra
Is arms even that good at execute nowadays?
balmy condor
My warriors play fury
flint tusk
Then why is sin in this state
i will say i am loving the new sin Hopium chatting
all thanks to
tropic tundra
I did play it a bit in SL 34 and didn’t feel like much
flint tusk
i've been doing pretty well in the new raid to be fair.
flint tusk
experiments is awesome triple execute!
tropic tundra
True
balmy condor
But if each one is in execute for 30% of the time
brazen rampart
i will say i am loving the new sin Hopium chatting
all thanks to
CT buff incoming 
balmy condor
Then it’s still 30% of the fight
tropic tundra
flint tusk
yeh just makes my zug zug brain happy
balmy condor
Execute seems to have some actual good value though this tier
flint tusk
i love the cheeky restealth between each boss on normal/hc though xD
royal lantern
experiments is awesome triple execute!
dont forget re-stealth bettwen them 🙂
tropic tundra
Good raid design
balmy condor
Lot of fights are like
Naturally ramping
Which is always execute stonks
I think it’s better design in general to do that
brazen rampart
what %hp is last phase of sarkareth?
balmy condor
Always more exciting than lust on pull and pi the dk
flint tusk
i will say at this early stage. i don't hate any of these bosses. only one i'm a bit meh with is the assault. seems so messy for the sake of it. btu guess that's the idea behind an assault
balmy condor
Mythic assault was fun tbh
I didn’t mind it
This wasn’t particularly impressive
But ya know
Nice 73 in the middle of greys
flint tusk
i mean still not terrible is it!
flint tusk
i'm still waiting on my first bit of bloody gear!
balmy condor
I was RISING
Idk though
Assa atm is very feast or famine
If you can get a solid execute in
You actually stonks so hard
cunning nest
Execute seems to have some actual good value though this tier
I knew it!! 🥳😂
marble hemlock
Idk how he knows how much blue I see
its because you look at your parses all day, so its just too much blue
balmy condor
its because you look at your parses all day, so its just too much blue
Fuck you I actually have a blue average through heroic and mythic so far
marble hemlock
its why i only see green and grey
subtle tundra
Fuck you I actually have a blue average through heroic and mythic so far
I have bad logs too what raiding with exactly a single back upgrade does
balmy condor
We’ll have an 8 minute execute phase on amalg on Monday
And I will parse 100
And it will be glorious
royal lantern
Nice 73 in the middle of greys
assassination moment
balmy condor
I have bad logs too what raiding with exactly a single back upgrade does
Just say you’re playing for the kill instead of pad
marble hemlock
i was doing an amazing 80k on it so far cuz i decided that its stupid to have 3 melee running into the soak thats furthest away everytime in p1/p2, so i just call that i take it and everybody else can keep pumping
shell osprey
been thinking what to do with my first spark...i got the dagger off the first boss and i can get it to 441..is it worth crafting a 447 MH or using the spark for the new boots then patch for the 2nd spark ?
shell osprey
ok cool, thats what i was hopin to hear xD
marble hemlock
(Sponsored by: Leatherworking Consortium)
royal lantern
dont listen to whispr, make a dagger
subtle tundra
i was doing an amazing 80k on it so far cuz i decided that its stupid to have 3 ...
Dude you lose the least amount from downtime don't you know
royal lantern
non biased blacksmith opinion
balmy condor
(Sponsored by: Leatherworking Consortium)
Inmem’s making legit millions of gold a day crafting leather gear on my server
shell osprey
my brain sees slime and it goes brrr
balmy condor
Woman is crazy
marble hemlock
well yeah, with people like you in her pocket
telling people to craft boots over getting 6ilvl upgrade on MH
balmy condor
She goes through 12 of the rot cauldrons a day
And then she’s in my DM’s asking for a refill
Like a fucking drug addict
shell osprey
even if its not right choice its the choice i was hoping for
balmy condor
telling people to craft boots over getting 6ilvl upgrade on MH
It’s sadly just the optimal choice
I didn’t get dagger this week :(
marble hemlock
prove it
shell osprey
nothing sad about slime
marble hemlock
let the numbers talk
subtle tundra
I can farm a dagger
marble hemlock
the only thing leaking, is your story
subtle tundra
But not the boots
subtle tundra
I can't??
balmy condor
the only thing leaking, is your story
Yah cause I’m not leaking RWF sims 
marble hemlock
you cannot
balmy condor
No you can’t
marble hemlock
441 is max upgrade ilvl
balmy condor
Varas is a goober
marble hemlock
and whispyr is in the pocket of big leatherworking, telling people slime boots+patch > 447wep+2 other embellishments
balmy condor
Just a silly lad
subtle tundra
Yea idk this crafting system bad
I should've crafted dagger before raid on Wednesday
For 100 parse
blazing jewel
Whispyr how far did your guild get
subtle tundra
With ease
balmy condor
and whispyr is in the pocket of big leatherworking, telling people slime boots+p...
?????? That’s just how it work
balmy condor
Whispyr how far did your guild get
15% wipe on amalg after a very rocky assault and bad pulls on amalg to start
marble hemlock
"rocky assault", i see what you did there
blazing jewel
Is niko enjoying tank dps boomie
marble hemlock
did you raid 3 times this week already whispyr?
balmy condor
use my profile
If I use a hypothetical profile with reasonable gear atm
Would you believe me
balmy condor
did you raid 3 times this week already whispyr?
I’ve raider twice, my guild did sark without me yesterday
subtle tundra
Dagger is bis for the rest of the season too right
marble hemlock
i believe you either way, i just want to make sure people arent being tricked by leatherworkers
balmy condor
Dagger is bis for the rest of the season too right
447 will live in your offhand ye
subtle tundra
i believe you either way, i just want to make sure people arent being tricked by...
Said the blacksmith
You just want to pocket some yourself
lapis osprey
Hey guys, I'm coming from outlaw
How's assa this tier? I see a lot of single target fights
balmy condor
It’s fine
Not quite sub level
But all the rogue specs are doing comparable damage across all the fights
lapis osprey
I figured sub or assa would be better than outlaw in these pure ST fights
balmy condor
They’re all close
lapis osprey
I iwas switching between outlaw & sub last tier, I'm tempted to learn assa now
balmy condor
If you so desire
royal lantern
i just craft for guildies, i cba bothering with tradechat
explaining over and over again how re-crafting works cus people cba understanding it gets old really fast....
marble hemlock
yep
lapis osprey
I feel that haha, as a leatherworker I had to do a lot of explaining first season
Sad to see kingsbane is still behind
flint tusk
I iwas switching between outlaw & sub last tier, I'm tempted to learn assa now
If you like slitting peoples throats, draining peoples blood. poisoning peoples blood. and branding people. assa is for you.
i will say i do love how graphic rogues abilities are xD
subtle tundra
explaining over and over again how re-crafting works cus people cba understandin...
Make macros for each situation
lapis osprey
Yeah I really love rogue
royal lantern
i will say i do love how graphic rogues abilities are xD
dispatch in german is litearlly just called "Kill"
1 of the many reasons why you never play games on german btw 
flint tusk
sounds a bit boring. no suffering at all
steel ridge
Tötung!
lapis osprey
I would switch to assa but from a practical standpoint it doesn't have the same stat prios as outlaw
But sub does, so I can just use the same gear minus weapons
royal lantern
stat priority matters way less then most people think
flint tusk
oh no you triggered Whispyr's trap card
royal lantern
espacily for assa where no stat is really a dead stat
lapis osprey
I mean I know it but it'll still itch my brain
royal lantern
all 3specs want crit anyway, haste/mastery are both good, vers is somewhst worse but not bad
lapis osprey
my favorite stats are always haste crit
royal lantern
vers is a pvp stat
it is
flint tusk
i'm glad i wasn't left completely hanging there haha
molten harness
Guys since faqs are outdated at the moment how do rotation look like past opening in pinned?
cunning nest
1 of the many reasons why you never play games on german btw <:kekman:1069601603...
Illidan Sturmgrimm has the same opinion
green juniper
do we like harlan's loaded dice ?
lapis osprey
Sexy
cursive frost
Harlan’s dice can be good placeholder trinket until you get raid trinkets
cunning nest
change my mind
Disagree. While just a little bit worse, it is the only stat with defensive value. This is very importent in high Level pve Content, dont you think?
I remember some season where vers is picked in extreme high keys in order to survive. Because dying is the wirst damage loss in pve.
We ignore that because we like to Deal optimal dps and depend on healers, as the narcistic fuckers that we are.
Mind changes?
green juniper
Harlan’s dice can be good placeholder trinket until you get raid trinkets
I have 411 grieftorch and 415 puzzlebox
cunning nest
I'd argue vers is balanced perfekt for us. Would be op, if it was the go-to imo
cursive frost
Depends on the content for grief, if people will die it gains a ton of value
Otherwise sim it
I would not waste resources upgrading
lapis osprey
421 dice sims worse than my 411 grieftorch & 418 whetstone in ST
And only slightly better than whetstone in aoe
which is really strange in itself
cunning nest
I have 411 grieftorch and 415 puzzlebox
Powercreep-wise, I would not change. BUT I would take the Chance to get rid of Double active and charge trinket for Sure!! 😂
lapis osprey
I like double active, I love pressing buttons and dealing damage
flint tusk
Disagree. While just a little bit worse, it is the only stat with defensive valu...
no pvp stat
skill issue if dying 😛
cunning nest
Kk, not for me. One active and only one 🤭
green juniper
box is at opener and grieftorch is good when you are starving energy 😄
flint tusk
but no in generally it's a decent stat. but should never be a main spec's stat.
like all rogue specs focus on crit. while some specs int eh game their main stat is verse which is just so cringe. i.e bad design
cunning nest
no pvp stat
skill issue if dying 😛
Not every one like you 
flint tusk
like naa we can't be bothered making the fun mastery spec do anything so we'll make it pointless and tune them around a boring flat damage amp stat 😦
cunning nest
but no in generally it's a decent stat. but should never be a main spec's stat.
...
Agree
I would hate that scaling
flint tusk
yeh it feels to me a bit like how hit rating and expertise used to be
You MUST get x of this and Y of this to even do base damage.
cunning nest
I like crit and Tempo the most, too. They have direct impact on Our gameplay and even synergise each other
too bad haste always sucks in aoe
flint tusk
Armor Pen is very close to verse also. so pretty much
Verse=Hit rating/spell hit/expertise/armor pen/[add] pvp resilience
atleast in my head
cunning nest
like naa we can't be bothered making the fun mastery spec do anything so we'll m...
But there is sonething to dislike about mast too imo: when its you bis stat, some skills wont scale, for example sbs/ER initial hit (felt better at the start of the xpac) or cp-builder in General "gettin weaker"
lapis osprey
Assa doesn't use flaring cowl/eranog ring?
flint tusk
But there is sonething to dislike about mast too imo: when its you bis stat, som...
yeh not too far wrong with that actually.
When did it change that secondary stats were the thing that mattered xD
gief 'of the tiger' back so we can go full glass cannon mode 😛
could you imagein howback that would be for the game now days.
got all the melee DPS stacking strenght and agi and no stamina xD
storm onyx
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amber stream
Hi guys, why would we use Slimy Expulsion Boots instead of Toxic Thorn Footwraps?
peak bobcat
Because it’s better
amber stream
Does it proc more often? Isn't crit/haste better than mastery/versa, and wouldn't losing stam be better than losing haste?
peak bobcat
Toxic thorns oversims iirc
spice surge
You end up having some of the thorn procs be healing because of recuperator talent
So you'd rather have slimy boots that always do damage than the thorn ones that can randomly decide to heal you and do 0 damage instead
amber stream
Ahh, I see, thanks! Shall I craft it already? As I can craft a neck and I already have a replacement for the head
molten harness
Garrote -> Slice -> Sepsis -> Ambush -> Mutilate/Ambush to 5+ combo points -> Rupture -> Deathmark -> Shiv + Thistle Tea -> Echoing Reprimand -> rotation
can someone shread some light how does rotations looks like past opener?
totally new to sub and I read that FAQs are outdated
normal mist
Dw dw
molten harness
im kinda seeing that most fights are ST and ASS should rock it better than Sub
normal mist
That opener is good only if your profile sims higher with sepsis build
molten harness
I did so far 7/9H
normal mist
So far a bunch of people are saying it's a dps loss on their profile
molten harness
ok what are the stats we are after?
normal mist
Crit mastery mostly, but sims know better
molten harness
ok if not this one what build do we run?
normal mist
The one from the FaQ should suffice
Just sim your character and find out what's your best profile
pseudo nimbus
silly question, does thsi mean I use amp and deadly and that the rest is useless or its the other way around?
tacit otter
silly question, does thsi mean I use amp and deadly and that the rest is useless...
the first thing you said
molten harness
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1019199475421552651/1068314651877707816...
lemme do that my man
normal mist
I haven't simmed sepsis yet on my profile aaaah
subtle tundra
i guess i bust an embellishment on dagger
right?
so i can replace lariat with higher ilvl
remote oak
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hollow river
i guess i bust an embellishment on dagger
Why?
kind walrus
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hollow river
Ah while trying to keep eggnog ring?
rain oyster
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hollow river
Not sure if that’s the case ngl
bleak ledge
That sepsis build feels so much better than the bonespike build idk why
subtle tundra
Ah while trying to keep eggnog ring?
yea ig
but i can replace it
got a crit mastery ring
can upgrade it aswell
clever sapphire
i read signet and i was like "oh no court of stars is back or what?"
subtle tundra
but if i replace cowl, then i have 1 embellishment slot free
so i might aswell get something for it
and do it on dagger
bleak ledge
You want Slimy boots and a toxified patch. It’s decent enough to go the boots first to replace lariat and then hold onto cowl/ring until it makes sense to replace
bleak ledge
I mean craft it but don’t craft an embellishment on it, I had better luck just grinding out m+ and upgrading daggers with crests
bleak ledge
Do what you’re gonna do man don’t come and ask if you have your kind made up lol
spice surge
Just get a dagger from your weekly vault 
subtle tundra
not whether i should or shouldnt craft it
peak bobcat
i want to craft dagger
I mean what are we supposed to think by this
drifting cosmos
didnt check wowhead for 1 day and there are like 3 posts of m+ tuning
haughty flicker
they nerfed the fuck out of a few dungeons
totems on bracken last boss are killable now which is nice
bleak ledge
Brakenhide last boss put in the dirt
vestal wren
expected
bleak ledge
NL put down
bleak ledge
Now do Neltharus last boss cast time during shield and we good
haughty flicker
they fixed it pretty quickly tbf
like its now reasonable for shitters like me to get 20s done in a few of the dungeons where it just wasnt gonna happen
or in the case of NL now people can actually do above 17
drifting cosmos
🤨 what lvl can I do if I was doing 21-22s in S1
tacit otter
🤨 what lvl can I do if I was doing 21-22s in S1
pug or group?
drifting cosmos
pug
tacit otter
im pugging ~18 without any problem
bleak ledge
16-18 should be easy pump for you
tacit otter
and the people i play with are bad bad
bleak ledge
Obviously will still depend slightly by dungeon
drifting cosmos
good to know, cheers
bleak ledge
Like an 18 freehold is probably gonna be easier tk pug than 18 Halls
People go brain dead in halls
haughty flicker
halls is pretty easy man
the only time i see people die is to the waves at the end
bleak ledge
And yet people int like no other lol
vestal wren
season 2 has the best dungeon rotation:
bleak ledge
No underrot in there for some flavor?
peak bobcat
season 2 has the best dungeon rotation:
Freehold, Underrot, freehold, Underrot
versed mica
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gray crest
spice spire
thorn fjord
storm belfry
Morning gamers
viscid spear
true garden
why do we exsang then deathmark ?
thorn fjord
You want full duration on the exsanged bleeds
or as much as possible... its a dps loss to exsang after DM
its too early my brain is mush i should nap in my car
wind condor
Exsang will shorten DM = bad bad thing
winged veldt
saw a 20 UR timed in our group give freehold teleport lol
gusty mirage
saw a 20 UR timed in our group give freehold teleport lol
One boat ride away from underrot
gusty mirage
Yeah assassination’s damage just isn’t there
subtle tundra
yea
and even if it were there
IC is so limiting
and then when i get 4pc
its gonna be so bad
to play around.
like i've played freehold thinking how i would use my DM's
and it would be so bad
thorn fjord
Sub is just feeling really nice right now
subtle tundra
cause the right play would be to hold it at like the end of bosses and such
thorn fjord
NS finally working was fun last night
gusty mirage
Yeah it’s cancer lmao
thorn fjord
Was blasting
subtle tundra
this spec is so limited without numbers to back it up
even in the ideal situations
you still just suck
bad ST
i've NEVER been top st
in any of the keys ive played
gusty mirage
I was usually top but then the warlocks would just fly past me lol
gusty mirage
And if I had a good Ret pally or mage or mm hunter? Forget about it
The damage just falls flat
It sucks
subtle tundra
im going to mark assa talent tree as a fail
and it gets worse the more you think about it
gusty mirage
Our aoe is so pathetic it’s not even worth the loss in ST
subtle tundra
like start of neltharius
tank drags the mobs
you have to stay in stealth
for 10 years
gusty mirage
subtle tundra
and you use ic
and 5 seconds after more is pulled
and shit like that
holy fuck
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gusty mirage
Yeah it’s a sub angle for sure
gusty mirage
As soon as I got my sub rolling with the flag build I have no desire to do a key as assassination for the rest of the tier
It’s just not worth
gusty mirage
Assa is fine the first few days as everyone’s learning dungeons because iron wire is super nice to have for interrupts
But it’s fucking pain man
Your aoe sucks
Your ST is meh at best
subtle tundra
aoe is OKish
cause boon carries
i've had my 400-500k pulls
but thats in ideal situations
with mobs stacked quickly
subtle tundra
if we could have sepsis
strange python
subtle tundra
honestly if i could have shadowlands assa with current numbers
id have that
because we wouldnt lose as much from the limitations of our "toys"
so it would be more dps
overall
royal lantern
Your ST is meh at best
and then they made so many dungeon mechanics where you need to kill stuff in 5-7 seconds
aka not doable as assa
gusty mirage
Yep, CT vs PB was a smol ST decision
royal lantern
fun
tacit otter
honestly if i could have shadowlands assa with current numbers
thats so true, i miss SL assa keys. this now is just bad
gusty mirage
Now we gut our ST for aoe
And do neither well enough to justify that trade off
Thankfully Dr. Atnos put us at A tier
Because of iron wire
Man’s high on the copium
subtle tundra
iron wire the saviour
gusty mirage
And iron wire doesn’t even work on the problematic mobs
Cause you can’t silence them
subtle tundra
realz better have something cooked for 10.1.5
which includes having AOE talents that also do SOMETHING on st
cause wasting 7 talent points on AOE for 1% st is funny
tacit otter
It’s a bit okay as nelf, can meld, stealth IC
there are so many targeting spells and casts, most of the time i cant stealth when i press meld. its super annoying
strange python
Fingers crossed on a complete rework. If they make it worse I'm probably just done playing lol
warm sleet
How is Sin looking in the raid so far?
subtle tundra
Fingers crossed on a complete rework. If they make it worse I'm probably just do...
same LOL
gusty mirage
there are so many targeting spells and casts, most of the time i cant stealth wh...
Yeah it’s jank as fuck half the time
gusty mirage
How is Sin looking in the raid so far?
Looks solid, but like the other rogue specs will get dunked on by others in about 1-2 weeks
subtle tundra
might give my gm a warning after prog is over, my future is based on the dev team
gusty mirage
Rogue is just mucho el depresso rn
warm sleet
Neat, I wanna go Sin for early prog then switch to Sub or OL, whichever is better
gusty mirage
Solid for prog, do solid damage, but get outshined by other classes
Early prog is our play ground and we just get outshined by others when they get their gear
strange python
It feels fine in raid rn, before everyone has bis and new tier
gusty mirage
Any chance at that goes out the window with the last announcement imo
strange python
We just got buffs, what could possibly be wrong with the spec now /s
warm sleet
Its a damn shame we get outshined. Sin does great boss damage
gusty mirage
They announced further tuning in 10.1.5 and beyond
subtle tundra
kb still not viable in pure ST
gusty mirage
So I doubt we get anything soon
royal lantern
Its a damn shame we get outshined. Sin does great boss damage
i mean, it doesn, but doesnt
dense stirrup
Looks solid, but like the other rogue specs will get dunked on by others in abou...
wich spec will be stronger in 1-2 weeks?
subtle tundra
which is BEYOND unfair
winged veldt
am I dumb, wasnt Irideous fragment 2 mins?
gusty mirage
wich spec will be stronger in 1-2 weeks?
Outlaw
royal lantern
wich spec will be stronger in 1-2 weeks?
no yellow class lmao
allready is not in any decent group
gusty mirage
And even then you’re still like 10k behind demonlock
gusty mirage
I mean when half the specs in the game are 133-140k in bis
And your best spec is 131
strange python
Imagine being the only triple DPS melee class in the game and still being lower on the damage totem pole than Monk or Ret 
gusty mirage
Looking not great
gusty mirage
Ye the only ones left are rogue mains
Everyone else rerolled
And I don’t blame them
dark token
Why it actually seems quite good
subtle tundra
only affli less played than us
dark token
At least this week
subtle tundra
and aflli has 2 other BUSTED specs