assassination

[storm belfry]

In 4 years

If you try that

You are dead

Trust me

[earnest remnant]

its not that i try

[storm belfry]

I die at 22 hrs

[earnest remnant]

i cant sleep

[gusty mirage]

I can confirm you won't actually die

[worn badger]

your brain will literally melt

[cold spoke]

i do that sometimes and im bing chilling

[gusty mirage]

but you'll definitely wish you did

[storm belfry]

You won’t but like. You will feel like you did or that you want to die yeah

[cold spoke]

last year i travelled for 26h really epic

[worn badger]

can cause long term delusions , theyve done enough studies on combat soldiers since gulf war

[cold spoke]

but sitting on a plane is rarely exhausting, just really boring

[earnest remnant]

i have a sleeping disorder, that doctors or whatever are trying to find out how to fix for me

its great

[spice spire]

I will randomly have days where I stay awake for 26+

Few months ago pulled a 32?

[storm belfry]

Damn

I haven’t pulled over a 24 since I think 2018

[spice spire]

Insomnia goes nuts man

[storm belfry]

I honestly feel like I’m dying when I stay up longer

[earnest remnant]

longest ive gone is 3.5 days without sleep

[spice spire]

Uh when I was in high school I had a few 72+

Yeah

[earnest remnant]

thats the worst ive felt in my life

[storm belfry]

Jesus stealthi

[gusty mirage]

I can fix it for you

I'll just come tuck you in

ok?

[worn badger]

sorry to hear that stealthi, my oldest kid is getting early treatment for a sleep disorder =/

[gusty mirage]

we'll get you some choccy milk

and tuck you in like a baby

[cold spoke]

choccy milk

[earnest remnant]

i think the worst part is, that i actually do get tired, body just doesent want to sleep

[worn badger]

theres some cool stuff using ar glasses and light patterns they are gonna try

[earnest remnant]

and the effect it has on ones mood

[gusty mirage]

whats your caffeine intake like

[earnest remnant]

can be wild

[gusty mirage]

because I'm assuming you consume a fuck ton

which for sure doesn't help

[earnest remnant]

not really

[gusty mirage]

also could be neurological

[earnest remnant]

they had me try for a while with 0

[gusty mirage]

esp if you have undiagnosed adhd

[earnest remnant]

caffeine

in a normal day if im not in like deepshit at work

i only have a cup of coffee in the morning

[gusty mirage]

you're a lawyer, you're always in deep shit at work

[earnest remnant]

if i have alot of work i drink a good amount of coffee

[gusty mirage]

that's pretty much universal

[worn badger]

yeah oxi alot of it is with sleep issues. for the military people they are able to give them Ketamine now and it helps rewire.

[gusty mirage]

the job also doesn't grant your brain the ability to tune shit out

always racing a mile a minute

I can't tell you the last time I slept more than 4-5 hours

[earnest remnant]

i can lay for like 6 hours in bed just thinking about work stuff

without falling a sleep

[gusty mirage]

twinning

although I reckon mine has to do with undiagnosed adhd

because my life is a fucking mess

I'm so disorganized

[earnest remnant]

its also usually where i come up with stuff

in anything i do

like my apl change to sub today

was while i was in bed

xD

[storm belfry]

Same. My partner is my lifeline man

She is organized

[earnest remnant]

my GF is the exact opposite person as me

[gusty mirage]

the worst is I recognize I have this problem and every attempt I make to fix it

just doesn't work

because I forget

[storm belfry]

Oh yeah

I have talked to myself about it since I was in 4th grade

Never changed man

[haughty flicker]

its like looking in a mirror lmao

[earnest remnant]

my gf sleeps like 10-14 hours a day

actual sloth

[gusty mirage]

only time it ever changed was when I was for sure taking totally legally acquired adderall in college

[storm belfry]

Mine would (she’s pregnant) but I wake her up

Can’t be sleeping all day

[gusty mirage]

I was on top of my shit constantly

[storm belfry]

Makes em grumpy

[gusty mirage]

room and work environment spotless

[worn badger]

i have adhd oxi, just went back on meds at 39 , even they dont stop you from forgetting though . gotta have some kind of system in place for organzing your day as well

[gusty mirage]

best sleep I ever got

[earnest remnant]

my gf is taking a break from uni

so she works as a fitness intructor atm

so when she isnt working she just sleeps

or annoys me

[gusty mirage]

yeah I don't think it'll be a magic pill by any means but I think I just need something to help keep me on task most of the time @worn badger

[viscid spear]

idk what HD is, but my doctor says I have 80 of them

[gusty mirage]

if its medication or even just therapy

I do need something

but don't have health insurance

so we remedy it with caffeine

[earnest remnant]

its also why i workout is because of my sleep issues just to try and help it

[gusty mirage]

organize our day around cups of coffee

I'll miss you guys when I die

[earnest remnant]

true xD

you know what time of day it is at work

by how many cups you've had

[gusty mirage]

I'm 20 minutes away from cup of coffee #4

which means its time to get this summons served

so it gets served before the 16th

[earnest remnant]

does that take that long

[gusty mirage]

not usually but I've had process servers drop the ball before

new one looks promising though

[storm belfry]

I haven’t had coffee in over a week. I’m dying

[worn badger]

there are some pretty low cost online mental health services these days, they even have video therapy options. i was having 10pm apointments last month cause of my schedule

[earnest remnant]

after summer tho

im no longer working in M/A

[gusty mirage]

yeah I'm going to give that a shot soon, currently working on getting my personal life in less chaos rn

I've been eating better instead of just shoving whatever's around me in my mouth

[earnest remnant]

im starting something you said you never wanted to do oxi

[storm belfry]

Oh let me just come near oxi

[gusty mirage]

personal injury?

[storm belfry]

Wait mistell

[earnest remnant]

research

[gusty mirage]

or divorce

oh god

I should do research

I'm really really good at it

[earnest remnant]

full nerd out

[worn badger]

thats always a good start, pick one area to control and focus on that, then if you mess up or forget something in another you can remind your self at least taht one thing is going right

[gusty mirage]

but sitting behind a computer all day with my socializing being discord and wow and I'll lose my mind

[young briar]

Should i craft slimy expulsion boots with a shadowflame or ingenuity

i got 1 of each

havent found anyone to do the shoulders yet

[gusty mirage]

you should wait to craft anything other than a dagger

[earnest remnant]

ive gotten a pretty good deal for it

i get to work from home most of the time

[gusty mirage]

shoulders aren't working as the tooltip suggests

so they're probably a no-go

[young briar]

2.5k dps increas via sims

[gusty mirage]

the sims aren't updated yet

the dot prevents re-applications of the dot

so it's simming higher than it works rn on live

[storm belfry]

Most of my social life is discord

[gusty mirage]

shout out to the druid discord for letting us know that btw

[storm belfry]

Outside of my kid and partner and like 4 irl friends

[gusty mirage]

gastank a real homie

[worn badger]

blerg, time to go to work. Stay safe and sane rogues

[gusty mirage]

be safe

[cold spoke]

[restive falcon]

WF good for rogue in 10.1 or nah

[gusty mirage]

yes

[tawny pike]

i'm only playing rogue because i like my tmog set more than the others...

[cold spoke]

rogue pros 10.1: looking kinda sick

[gusty mirage]

honestly

that's a good reason

[haughty flicker]

thats a very good reason

[cold spoke]

im between race changing into dwarf vs human

[haughty flicker]

idk how people play characters that look like shit

[cold spoke]

and dwarf is more dps but

i dont think i can justify this lmao

[dark token]

all tier sets look shit when ur dwarf

[frigid kestrel]

I struggled changing to Tauren rogue, but that AOE stomp I’m M+ is addicting af

[gusty mirage]

I'm between human and nelf

[frigid kestrel]

Worse with Tauren

[gusty mirage]

looking good > racials

[earnest remnant]

velf is where its at

[gusty mirage]

nah fam

miss me with the velf shit

I play a blood elf

I don't need to play a velf

[frigid kestrel]

I don’t think there is a single mog that can make Tauren look good

[cold spoke]

i might as well stay belf too

[dark token]

nah racials saved my m+ and the crit dmg is good too

feel good > look good

[gusty mirage]

you gain 10% dps by looking cool

change my mind

[cold spoke]

but i find myself trying to fish for human too much

[young briar]

Hear me out, Dark Iron Dwarf

[cold spoke]

from toys etc

[gusty mirage]

it's like racist stripes on a muscle car

[spice spire]

I play belf

[gusty mirage]

wow

[spice spire]

Checkmate buddy

[gusty mirage]

racing stripes*

[deft flicker]

Yep doing that

[haughty flicker]

classic racist stripes

[gusty mirage]

not racist stripes, don't put racist stripes on your cars folks

[cold spoke]

whats a racist stripe

[deft flicker]

Stripe that hates being around stripes of different colour

[cold spoke]

good explanation, thanks

[gusty mirage]

way to edit your typo coward

instead of just owning it

[deft flicker]

Kinda glad to like visuals of races with good racials

Velf is probably the only type of leaf lover I’d play (excluding dh because there isn’t much choice to be made)

[spice spire]

You can clown me, but you can’t Unexplode your prostate buddy boy

[gusty mirage]

true

[deft flicker]

Does velf racial work on homie??

Has anyone tested that??

[tawny pike]

velfs were a mistake

[near valley]

ur a mistake

[spice spire]

I was

[tawny pike]

yeh but velfs also

[deft flicker]

A lot of stuff we can’t imagine our life without were initially a mistake

[cold spoke]

cant wait to race change to human and look sick

[deft flicker]

Imagine looking sick in a game with disease dispel

[sweet dawn]

Join me as a goblin, we get the best stealth running animation

[deft flicker]

True and based

[cold spoke]

[rare jackal]

uh based department?

[dusk ivy]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[abstract junco]

God I wish Touch of the Grave weren’t catastrophically bugged

[storm belfry]

I love gastank

[storm belfry]

I just did this this morning. Normally am night elf. But sometimes you need a change (I’ll be Nelf again by next month just watch)

[uncut echo]

Wish.com belf?

[haughty flicker]

Velf has a better racial though

Reduced transmog costs bis

[near valley]

Velf is bis broskis

best race hands down

close second is Lightforged

[haughty flicker]

Only problem is they can’t have the gold eyes iirc

So wouldn’t work with my transmogs

[near valley]

who?

velf?

[haughty flicker]

Yes

They can only have blue and purple can’t they

[near valley]

yeah

[haughty flicker]

And blind

[storm belfry]

Best race is night elf man.

[near valley]

and red

but the red is cursed

[storm belfry]

Velf has a really good racial armor tho

[near valley]

just turn into Caspar complexion

[strange trail]

I'm the weirdo who likes zandalari and darkspear for rogues

[near valley]

Zandalari are cool for other things

[haughty flicker]

If I could have the velf wings without the dumbass dr. Strange collar I would swap immediately

[near valley]

like a paladin or DK

was playing Vulpera so i insta made the swap

no more swimming in 1 inch water for me

[violet jackal]

424 dagger week 0 we like this right

[viscid spear]

All I got was a stupid Vers shoulder

[dark token]

very happy with my crit mast neck

[oak tangle]

anyone able to explain how this green gear from the questline shits on the quality of mythic end bosses

[haughty flicker]

Bc rock and stone brother

[oak tangle]

the mail quest armor mog is worth playing a shaman / hunter alone

[haughty flicker]

Oh you mean the transmog

The open world sets do go hard

[uncut echo]

Plate is fuego

[oak tangle]

yeah like i'm getting glowing shoulders with particle effects from an intro quest

[dark token]

wdym

[viscid spear]

Canadian craftsmanship, dontchaknow

[amber stream]

Hey guys, is there any youtuber that present assassination rogue content? I used to watch Infexious, but ever since he stopped I could not find anyone.

[subtle tundra]

im playing first time ever survival in mythic raid so yea idk about assa

so far the team hasnt noticed

[winter gale]

Endwyr

[amber stream]

And is it worth it to craft a piece right now with the shadowflame spark?
Here is my sim: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hA5LUSta7eyKp56vVg4Cch

[oak tangle]

^ is what i mean

[haughty flicker]

Yeah the leather and mail open world sets are better than any of the tier sets

[amber stream]

thanks

[oak tangle]

gave me some mega bloodrayne vibes when i saw a random hunter wearing it

[storm belfry]

Because you aren’t on top of the meters?

🥁

(Sorry ily Varas)

[subtle tundra]

yea

ofc i dont do dps

i press random buttons

[storm belfry]

Bomb go boom

[thorn fjord]

I need this details bug to get fixed asap...

Cant keep getting memed on

[vestal wren]

play outlaw

works fine

[hazy pendant]

is sin look good for new raid or ill be forced to play other specs?

[sonic schooner]

i mean you re not forced to play anything but i cant wait to see what is the "optimal" spec for raid/m+

Since all the 3 specs were undertune / buggy on ptr cant tell by the tests

Someone shared me that earlier

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076780708397330472/1103729966916571196/image.png

https://youtu.be/43VMxwKJLTM?t=240

But the fact that he is saying "assa is the best cuz it s all dots so you dont lose dmg by moving away" makes me cringe

[hazy pendant]

i did play Vault as sin all the way 8/8M and was horrible
even on single target my question should i stay sin or reroll to ret since i dislike other 2 rogue specs

[sonic schooner]

That s kinda the issue with this raid for melee, apparently, we re gettting a looooooot of downtime on bosses

Well tbh with you, if youu wanna feel usefull in raid, quit rogue

[storm belfry]

Gotta love CLICKBAIT TIER LISTS man

[sonic schooner]

Cyon i do

[storm belfry]

Fucking hate tier lists. Even if it makes my class look good

[sonic schooner]

Someone sent me that and i m like "wtf"

like losing uptime on assa feels terrible, at least on sub you get dance / energy back to send again

on assa you just reapply garr and rupt

[vestal wren]

its tier list time!

huiii

[minor gate]

more like tinkle time

[sonic schooner]

I m just in the waiting room atm, it feels so wrong this patch, nothing is really clear in this discord because of all the bullshit happening

[minor gate]

im very funny

[sonic schooner]

Dont even get outlaw sims yet

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[quaint path]

is assa better then sub now ? because it seems so

[vestal wren]

#outlaw has some without tier

[thorn fjord]

Tinkle time

[vestal wren]

atm seems like both sim close

[quaint path]

would be nice to finally see assa as meta

[vestal wren]

but if you observed my sheet

[deft flicker]

•tier
•tier
•believe it or not, tier

[quaint path]

even in m+

[vestal wren]

you saw dps swing a lot with implementation changes

[sonic schooner]

yea i know, it s a lot of "simulating having tset"

[vestal wren]

so best would be to wait a bit

and see how things shake up

[thorn fjord]

Surely buffs on the horizon

[sonic schooner]

[minor gate]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-nc-nostalgia-critic-staring-off-into-the-distance-staring-gif-22679466

[peak bobcat]

Sin did get worse after implementation?

[quaint path]

let assa be meta for once

[vestal wren]

i am not sure atm

i trying to figure out if something changed in hotfixes/simc

so don't take numbers as 100% yet, it seems a lot of changes happen in general

[thorn fjord]

Wonder how they're going to handle patching once raid goes live

[vestal wren]

you can ask our sub people about the rolercoaster we had with apl and hotfixes

[obsidian beacon]

If we can’t play ass in m+ we riot

[vestal wren]

when every hour numbers/knowlage seemed to change

[thorn fjord]

We seem to have a decent amount of people working on our stuff atleast

You guys are the real mvps @vestal wren

[vestal wren]

what i did earlier was also to remove flowstone from the sim as it is 100% not intended that we use it

[peak bobcat]

Yeah seemed like a clear bug

[storm belfry]

But you can

[vestal wren]

thanks, but all i did was run simulations.
There will be more changes over time, maybe there are apl updates? maybe implementation details change it is hard to predict

also likely some tuning changes

it is nice to a degree because you see how the picture changes slowly, as things unfold

but also very confusing

[peak bobcat]

We will have to see tomorrow if there is tuning

[thorn fjord]

Can be overwhelming but alteast patience will pay off

Id imagine there will be changes on reset next week too

[vestal wren]

i think best is to just wait a bit

[thorn fjord]

Yuh

[vestal wren]

and see with weely reset

what numbers/etc say

[storm belfry]

Can’t wait

[thorn fjord]

Would be nice to play Sin but its still looking like a sub angle

[storm belfry]

[vestal wren]

trying to stay up to date with ever-changing environments like we have atm

[storm belfry]

I will not back down @thorn fjord

I’ve learned from quake

[thorn fjord]

But who knows OL might be the shining star

[vestal wren]

can lead to bad decisions

[storm belfry]

[thorn fjord]

I'm rolling with whatever is simming higher for me in ST

You cant change my mind

[peak bobcat]

Boss damage is good damage

[storm belfry]

[thorn fjord]

Damn @peak bobcat different icon and name color

Confusion

[peak bobcat]

Honoring my dog who died of cancer

[thorn fjord]

Aww man sorry to hear 😦

[storm belfry]

Sorry brother. That’s tough

[peak bobcat]

It’s okay she was old and lived a good life

[thorn fjord]

The best girl

[peak bobcat]

I’ll always be a sinner for life

Blizzard pls fix

[spice spire]

[chilly viper]

😦

can't imagine losing my best friend

[royal lantern]

then dont

[chilly viper]

Good idea

😍

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/vettel-in-wall-hit-the-wall-gif-11905373

[gray hazel]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[frigid pilot]

Imagine being a single target spec that sims less than the pro aoe classes

[royal lantern]

yeha, but take a look at these Boss DMG Overall bars from wowhead

that are a totally accurate way to check a spec's capabilitys

[frigid pilot]

M0 based nerfs

[uneven summit]

Any specific race that´s abit more op for assa atm?

[steel spire]

Goat girl drip op👀

[thorn adder]

vulpera

[spice spire]

0.2ish% diff in races

[thorn adder]

is the best

🙂

[spice spire]

And that’s legit worst possible - best possible

Very very small diff

[thorn adder]

m8 we sim like 50k we got to squeak it all out where we can

[spice spire]

[thorn adder]

thats the best emote by a mile btw

[spice spire]

[thorn adder]

i dont have nitro

[royal lantern]

vulpera

no long travel time between capitals and patch zones

[thorn adder]

set up camp infront of raid before a tier

have instant tp every time

[keen spruce]

no foxes

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

[thorn adder]

we dont furry shame here

[uneven summit]

im a spatial rift enjoyer ngl

[keen spruce]

velf blink very nice

[uneven summit]

imagine not spatial rifting rasz

ufff

[keen spruce]

getting to run single step on raz

[storm forum]

Shadowmeld as an extra re-stealth when the tank is chain pulling or dwarf off any dots that would take you out of stealth

[keen spruce]

dwerf pretty gud

big boi tauren for stompies and stam

[thorn adder]

goblin

to goblin these nuts

[storm forum]

Yeah, cause the only thing we don't have is an AoE stun

[thorn adder]

GOTEEM

[royal lantern]

honestly

i can see a HUGE racial tuning comming somewhere down the line, now that faction barriers are 99%removed

[uneven summit]

gonna be fun to see if goblin will be utilized in RWF

[royal lantern]

aka removing all the somewhat gamebreaking stuff like stoneform

[keen spruce]

orc

[oak sky]

why would they remove anything

[royal lantern]

or just straight up disabling racials in dungeons/raids/minigamemode

[oak sky]

you arent forced to go broken ones

[royal lantern]

ofc not

[haughty flicker]

why would they balance classes

you arent forced to go broken ones

[royal lantern]

but dwarf racial alone is somewhat fight limiting lol

when you make every 2nd tank mechanic a bleed

[storm forum]

Racials are such a big part of what differentiates WoW from other mmos, I don't see them going away ever

[oak sky]

generally speaking its a fun little bonus

[keen spruce]

there's some broken ones, but not broken enough to be on the chopping block

except orc in pvp

[oak sky]

i think they should fix the bad ones before nerfing the good ones

[royal lantern]

huh

wow is REALLY tame with racials mate

playing eso where going high elf was straight up 12%more dps flat

[storm forum]

I never got out of the starting area of eso

[royal lantern]

eso, aka: "dps? high elf, tank? argonian or imperial, healer breton, cus they are straight up 10-20% better then the other races by default"

peak balancing btw

[storm forum]

Every other mmo I've played either doesn't have race choices or they're nearly only cosmetic

Man I gotta play eso high elf rogue

[storm belfry]

I mean racial really doesn’t matter tbh

Not game breaking stuff really

Don’t see them changing anything about them

[storm forum]

The nice thing about wow is that they're all impactful in their own niche

[royal lantern]

dont worry, now its khajit/argonian/wood elf(but they also tuned it down, cus 12%more dps was SLIGHTLY broken )

[storm forum]

Except maybe nightborn

Idk what night born racial does

[royal lantern]

illginoth in nyalotha as vulpera

was broken

raid dmg mechanic legit did nothing

[storm forum]

Lmao why

[royal lantern]

racial was #1 healing done for the blood dk

[royal lantern]

vulpera racial passive is: first time you take dmg from an enemy, that dmg is reduced by 5% of your max hp

aka, first hit from an enemy does less dmgh

illginoth raid dmg mechanic was constantly spawning bloods that did raid dmg everytime they got killed

[storm forum]

Oh I only remembered their on-use damage thing that was kinda shitty

[royal lantern]

each of them was a unique enemy

so the racial worked on every single raid dmg proc

and the dmg was not THAT high cus it was just happening every ~10seconds

so you sometimes only lost 5-10% hp as a vulpera dps

was hilarious

[storm forum]

That's pretty great

Trolls in Jaina was funny too

[royal lantern]

our tank back then legit took 0 dmg from that mechanic, cus 5% of a tanks hp is kinda big

[storm forum]

They got the debuffs for full ticks less than other races or something

[royal lantern]

tbf, you should not use that one for dmg, and instead for its healing part

[royal lantern]

the raid dot was coded as a slow, and trolls have less slow durations, so they sometimes dropped it faster

but that was removed in like 1-2 weeks

and they just made the "troll timer" for everyone

[storm forum]

Amazinh

[thorn dove]

My most fun racial experience was being a panda allowed me to be braindead on dathea. Since I take like 0 fall damage

Of course it wasnt OpTiMaL

But it was funny

[storm forum]

Does panda racial stack with rogue passive? Do you just never die from falling?

[royal lantern]

yes it does

[thorn dove]

Yep

[royal lantern]

you take 1/4 fall dmg

[storm forum]

That's excellent

[royal lantern]

halfed from rogue, and that fall dmg is halfed again

[plush delta]

are we able to get any champion level gear this week? or is veteran gear the highest we can get

[storm forum]

I think we're just farming that gear in M+ next week

man my rogue now has one job for the rest of the expac now and that's to farm for the toxic alch table recipe

[grim tangle]

how do I get flightstones

[spice surge]

Play the game

[sterile perch]

idk if this is answered somewhere, but what is the dps diff generally with exsanguinate vs improved poison?

[drifting cloud]

think it was slightly more than 1%, might be less now because of box nerf, not sure

[royal lantern]

exsang is roughly ~1% better

[ionic matrix]

believe you will slightly higher top end parses with exsanguinate because of its ability to utilize things like sophic etc better in snap shot rng scenarios.

sophic may be going away though

[thorn fjord]

More than likely

I should be trying to get another flavor pocket shouldn’t I

[dark token]

sophic is still good, higher variance tho

[oak sky]

it doesnt snapshot agi btw

only haste

[main vessel]

I was here early

dw you'll understand when you see it

[bronze pike]

i have a sin fix

oh topple is here

nvm

[main vessel]

[bronze pike]

did u not share a pogger sin fix?

[main vessel]

I did not

[bronze pike]

already?

[main vessel]

I came explicitly to support yours

[bronze pike]

pog

okay @spice spire

this one is kinda lazy, might not be a banger

but what if, we swap the names of outlaw and sin and call it a day?

think about it, switch the names of everything. make roll the bones deathmark and adrenaline into exsang

dispatch into envenom and leave bte as "flavor"

your thoughts?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1103787252087279757.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

that was to much wasnt it topple. ive killed him

[spice spire]

[steel spire]

https://tenor.com/view/willsmith-fresh-prince-gif-5207996

[cunning nest]

https://tenor.com/view/jenga-fail-disaster-gif-9774326

[sterile perch]

Does mastery affect bleed damage like rupture or only envenom?

[storm belfry]

Soulja boy streaming wow

[tawny pike]

that's gonna change with t he tier sets isn't it?

it buffs nature dmg

[minor gate]

all poisons and bleeds

*your

[thorn adder]

@main vessel only cooks up weeb sin fixes

[main vessel]

weeb = pogger

[thorn adder]

watching demon slayer for the first time

its poggers af

[bronze pike]

the starrail one is unironically based

[main vessel]

never watched it

[bronze pike]

very i like it

[thorn adder]

watch it the animations are amazing

[main vessel]

I've never caused as many fight or flight reactions as I did that day

[bronze pike]

i have notes, but its still poggers

[main vessel]

it's on the list but I don't like shonen

the mc voices are always annoying

[bronze pike]

tanjiro is lowkey kinda squeaky

[thorn adder]

yea i can agree a little with that but its still really good

[main vessel]

only shonen mc voice that doesn't make me want to pull my ears off is Ichigo from Bleach

[thorn adder]

be all the inter monologue is getting old

[austere fulcrum]

can someone link our bis page pls

[spice spire]

I debated leaving the server immediately. It was your opus

[thorn adder]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/cheat-sheet

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1045092941129072680.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[spice spire]

Eh that’s not complete

But then again

[main vessel]

so I can retire?

[spice spire]

Nothing is

🙂

[bronze pike]

damn topple you almost made a greenname leave instead of bannign u

[spice spire]

Only if You want papi

I could never ban topple

[main vessel]

my perms were messed up yesterday and I thought someone had muted me for the star rail suggestion lmao

[spice spire]

[thorn adder]

i blocked you for a short time

[main vessel]

fair

[thorn adder]

[main vessel]

I deserved it

[jaunty phoenix]

is our atrophic poison 2x during shiv?

[spice spire]

No

It’s 20% stronger so it’s 3.6

[jaunty phoenix]

why does it say "applies a more potent version of your non-lethal..."

[spice surge]

Fairly sure its not actually amped at all

Unless theyve added it recently

[jaunty phoenix]

the 3->3.6 is standard

[spice spire]

I’m thinking imp

No

It’s never been

I’m rn

[spice surge]

3-3.6 is with the talent

[spice spire]

Yeah

But yeah the long short is, they snuffed that in beta

[spice surge]

It does amp mind numbing to 25% (30% if talented) though

[gusty mirage]

I can still make this happen

let me know

xoxo

😛

[plush delta]

any chance igneous flowstone is good for us

seems to proc off pb

[main vessel]

dw I retired from the game

and by the game I mean posting terrible takes

I don't think I can top the star rail one

[uncut echo]

Yo lemme read the star rail take?

[gusty mirage]

why would you retire from this

[gusty mirage]

very good chance it's good for us, because it is

but gl getting your RL to pass it to you

can't even roll need on it because it's not on our loot table

so you can't scammaz one in LFR either

[thorn fjord]

Just send your RL feet pics and pray for the best

[main vessel]

#assassination message

[uncut echo]

Nice

[burnt star]

Dont your rl give loot according to player b.i.s and how much of an upgrade an item is?

[gusty mirage]

I mean

bone spike doesn't proc it

which is likely an oversight pb does

vs giving it to a ranged

where it always procs

regardless of what might happen

[burnt star]

It only proc oncr every 30 sec

[gusty mirage]

ok

it used to proc off bonespike

[burnt star]

Only need to proc once in that tide window whatever it is

[gusty mirage]

and now it doesn't

which means the poison bomb proccing it

is probably an oversight

[burnt star]

Ya.. thats kinda weird

[gusty mirage]

or maybe it isn't

[burnt star]

I mean. Sure if we cant proc haha

[gusty mirage]

who knows anymore

[burnt star]

Like getting it week 1 is maybe a nono

[haughty flicker]

giving it to a rogue when it could be fixed at any moment is super sus

unless its just not good for anyone else in the raid

[burnt star]

But. Thats only short term

We will know soon enough

Also technicly. Outlaw as a lot of range attack

[haughty flicker]

nope

[spice surge]

Yes, but none of them proc it

[haughty flicker]

bte and pistol shot are melee abilities

specifically to stop stuff like this

[spice surge]

The literal only thing a rogue can do to proc is to use poison bomb or the embellished boots

[balmy condor]

The thing is, it’s an even bigger upgrade for 15 other specs

So even if it is your bis

You’re never getting that shit

Even if it doesn’t change

[thorn fjord]

Unless you got some solid guildies that'll run with you in a pug and funnel it to you

[burnt star]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=185763/pistol-shot

Its not melee

But i get your point

[haughty flicker]

its literally coded as a melee ability

someone showed it from the apl before

when it was brought up

[uncut echo]

Wild how it's a ranged ability

and they code it as melee w/ a 30 yd range

[haughty flicker]

from solo

[balmy condor]

Yeah

It’s a really long ranged melee ability

[uncut echo]

like final verdict

[balmy condor]

Can confirm

[thorn fjord]

Clawing Shadows is considered melee too no?

[burnt star]

We cant have nice thing

[uncut echo]

yes

[thorn fjord]

For UHDK?

[uncut echo]

I know Clawing is

100%

[thorn fjord]

Same idea then i'd assume

[gusty mirage]

dw embellishments proc it

for reasons

[balmy condor]

Only toxic thorn though

[gusty mirage]

it has to get patched out

right

there's no way it stays

[burnt star]

Its fine if they fix it. But at the end of the days. Its sad tuning

[main vessel]

so you're saying that you still want my shit takes, even knowing that they'll be objectively worse than the star rail one

[gusty mirage]

yes

:3

[main vessel]

I can do that

[brazen zodiac]

c:

[gusty mirage]

make sure you tag quake in every single one

and you're protected

[main vessel]

I have a lot of free time since sin didn't get any changes, so I don't have to update WoWA

too soon?

[brazen zodiac]

[gusty mirage]

not soon enough

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire why does it burn when i pee

[spice spire]

You’ve sinned too hard

[thorn fjord]

@main vessel decided to help you out

[gusty mirage]

what the fuck is a super react

[main vessel]

now that reaction was a quality shitpost

[gusty mirage]

and why is that a thing

who asked for any of this

[thorn fjord]

i just discovered it today too

[main vessel]

discord's going down the shitter

[thorn fjord]

Discord trying to make that cheeeeese

[main vessel]

did you see the name change thing coming

[haughty flicker]

adding stuff just to add it

[gusty mirage]

yeah

[haughty flicker]

and then charge for it with nitro

[main vessel]

or the mobile redesign

the mobile redesign is awful

[thorn fjord]

They almost got me with the cross server sound board

[gusty mirage]

I was giving them free money for nothing already

[thorn fjord]

But fuck em they aint taking my 10 bucks

[gusty mirage]

woah

soundboard is legit

[main vessel]

Bro like what

Default serve view

[gusty mirage]

unironically

I don't mind it

[main vessel]

sure

[thorn fjord]

That on android?

[main vessel]

but why change it

[main vessel]

iOS

[thorn fjord]

Hmm i guess i havent updated my app yet

[main vessel]

I can teach you the secret

[gusty mirage]

because reasons

[main vessel]

but I can't tell you how to undo it

[thorn fjord]

Nah im good i just wont update it 😛

[spice spire]

It’s the sparkle isn’t it

[main vessel]

it's not an update thing

it's an opt-in

[spice spire]

You just do the thing again

[thorn fjord]

Ohhh

[main vessel]

✨

[spice spire]

That’s how you get rid of it

[main vessel]

tap the emoji, then long press the emoji it brings up

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-mrsparkle-gif-12840648

[gusty mirage]

yes

[main vessel]

God bless

That things gone

[spice spire]

Yw

[gusty mirage]

you know what would make that layout better

if the servers weren't at the bottom

[main vessel]

yes

[gusty mirage]

like you swipe to bring up the old list

the way they do it now doesn't work

when you have like

80 servers

lmao

[spice spire]

Trade proposal:
You get my sanity with some insane sin fixes , and I fix your discord

[gusty mirage]

trade proposal: you shut the fuck up, and I don't make fun of you for a day

[spice spire]

Trade proposal: someone asking instead of me banging ur pops

[gusty mirage]

trade proposal: your dad said to go visit him, he needs help getting up after my last visit

[spice spire]

Nah we’re golfing Saturday get woke pal

[gusty mirage]

not anymore

the only hole in one he's getting is me in his hole

in one try

bud

[spice spire]

The only balls ur dad plays with is mine

[gusty mirage]

too slow kid

this is why george loves me more than he loves you

[spice spire]

False

That mf lives for me (that’s how I know he’s dumb as a box of rocks)

[thorn fjord]

Or bang his dad

[gusty mirage]

that's not a possible trade

[thorn fjord]

lol rip

[storm belfry]

[uncut echo]

Gay

[spice spire]

???

[oak sky]

Play with this

[spice spire]

I might

[uncut echo]

AYO?

[spice spire]

Mfs be horny today

[thorn fjord]

Just today?

[uncut echo]

Bruh you started it

None of this smh shit

[spice spire]

????

I’ve never horny posted in my life

[brazen zodiac]

O.O

[gray crest]

must be hard to type with 1 hand quake

[uncut echo]

[spice spire]

Fake

[royal lantern]

that was george typing

[thorn adder]

seeing it say your typing makes me take 1 hand off the keyboard tbh

[spice spire]

[thorn adder]

[uncut echo]

Bruh chill

[spice spire]

One handed Typers

Proud of you all

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[uncut echo]

I'm a 2 thumb typer

[haughty flicker]

sin is wild

[uncut echo]

(Mobile)

[spice spire]

Same

85% of the time I’m on mobile.

[thorn adder]

by that you mean the most fun channel by a mile

[haughty flicker]

everyone saw it

no deleto here

[spice spire]

He replied to the wrong person

[thorn adder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-penguins-of-madagascar-madagascar-movies-animation-cartoons-gif-16596826

[thorn adder]

when a msg goes out as soon as you click reply

[spice spire]

She’s too fast man.
It’s happened to me a few times too

Mobile life

[thorn adder]

im not even on mobile..... im just watching an anime 🙂

[spice spire]

The true curse comes in when you have to redo sims on mobile

Oh god weeb in chat

[thorn adder]

bro sims on mobile alone are cursed af

[royal lantern]

not like as if any gameplay related talk is going on anyway

[thorn adder]

sin chat is just a bunch of guys being dudes

[spice spire]

I’m still waiting for tea to come off cooldown

[thorn adder]

hanging out

[spice spire]

I’m almost caught up to one piece. I too have earned a lethal injection for being a weeb

[haughty flicker]

idk i dont talk about playing with other guys balls with my friends

but i respect it

i guess

[spice spire]

I don’t either

Just their pops

[thorn adder]

if you aint seen your boys meat are you really boys?

[thorn adder]

ima head out

[royal lantern]

wow, are you even real friends then

[haughty flicker]

no

[thorn adder]

i hear nothing but good things about that show, but its just to fucking long bro

[uncut echo]

Day's gonna convert me by having me watch all of one piece 😭

We're a 3 episodes a night angle

[viscid spear]

Weakling

[thorn adder]

im in my demon slayer arc this shit so good man

[spice spire]

It’s pretty good. Way too much for what it’s going on.
Any show that long, the ceiling is 7/10

It’s a 6/10 so far

[viscid spear]

[spice spire]

Dog ur deadass gonna be watching it for a year

[uncut echo]

YUP

I KNOW SHE CALCED IT OUT 😭

[thorn adder]

12 hours a day for a year*

[thorn adder]

finishing S1 now bout to watch the movie

[royal lantern]

oh no

we lost quake

he is a weeb now

[thorn adder]

everyone is a weeb, and if your not you just dont know it yet

[uncut echo]

I objectively hate anime

[thorn adder]

why tho

[uncut echo]

(Except for Chika)

[spice spire]

Anime pfp

🤨

[uncut echo]

Cringey ass tropes around overly sexualized highschoolers

[thorn adder]

spongebob was the best anime every made

[uncut echo]

I don't like Japanese social customs

[thorn adder]

thats on god

[viscid spear]

So far it's about 390 hours of episodes

[thorn adder]

yea i watched all of naruto in about a month and that was almost to much for me

so im good on that

[gusty mirage]

jealousy is ugly on you

[viscid spear]

If you watched it for 17 days straight with no breaks you would be done

[uncut echo]

Jokes on you, ugly is ugly on me

[thorn adder]

ahri just dont get that you gotta kiss the hommies goodnight

and so it is what it is

[uncut echo]

I kiss the girls gn

Dw

(Lesbian moment)

[gusty mirage]

jokes on you

I'm the president of ugly

[uncut echo]

You're fucking gorgeous

Day told me

[gusty mirage]

wtf

[thorn adder]

thats cool to if they are your hommies

[gusty mirage]

why people be talking about me

[thorn adder]

cause your cute oxi

[uncut echo]

Bc I asked her

[storm forum]

I can't wait for the make out pics

[uncut echo]

[thorn adder]

[thorn adder]

bruh i was gonna watch it totally and you ruined it

[viscid spear]

[thorn adder]

what was that ep 15678?

[viscid spear]

1321, middle of the Heaven's Moon Arc

[thorn adder]

jfc LMFAO

thats a unreal amount of eps

[viscid spear]

Well when you find out that the world of OP is actually shared with Dragonball and Naruto, it really opens up the world.

[thorn adder]

so when you are caught up, what do you watch lmfao

cause you been watching that show for 100 years

[viscid spear]

Well hopefully you invested in brain-jar technology

[thorn adder]

[gusty mirage]

[uncut echo]

I asked her about her visiting you!

Bc you brought it up to me!

[gusty mirage]

[uncut echo]

Not "what's oxi look like"

[gusty mirage]

[viscid spear]

"a dream"

[thorn adder]

i see you oxi

[gusty mirage]

[thorn adder]

go ahead playa

[ivory bay]

do we still play puzzle box after nerfs?

[uncut echo]

Oxi madge women talking about him goes against his narrative

[uncut echo]

It gets replaced iirc

[thorn adder]

you made oxi shy

[ivory bay]

okok ty

[sweet dawn]

Does anyone know of any spreadsheets that show how much of a % gain trinkets are for each spec? Like blood mallet but the trinket not each spec individually

[spice spire]

Until everything is figured out no

Outside of current sims*

[thorn adder]

give it all to me before it comes out please

[storm belfry]

Nice pfp friend

[spice spire]

No leakers

[spice surge]

I can leak that the beacon trinket is very good for sub

[void pecan]

Spoilers @spice surge :(((

[honest iris]

Are these changes live yet? https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/1577047-class-tuning-incoming-with-embers-of-neltharion-patch/

[spice surge]

Yes

Besides Fixed an issue that prevented Nightstalker’s damage bonus from applying in its intended circumstances.

[honest iris]

ah okay, weird it wasn't mentioned in the official patch notes

[spice surge]

Its supposed to be in, its just borken

[storm belfry]

It’s additional patch notes basically

[uncut echo]

Thank you

[storm belfry]

[uncut echo]

It's a pastel goth and a regular goth

[storm belfry]

[turbid heath]

Sin rogue seems so fuckin

Messed up right now

😞

[uncut echo]

It's fine

St does what it needs to and aoe is potent enough to not be dogshit

Albeit the aoe rotation is kinda cringe ngl

[turbid heath]

Just reading through the pins and stuff and there seems to be a lot of changes in the way of gearing / crafted stuff etc

Like how vital is the ring for prog, what gems etc for the ring are bis

[uncut echo]

Don't worry about that rn imho

[steel spire]

Would shiv giving 100% chance at pb procs 2 much

[turbid heath]

My mind has melted, tbh I have been away from the game for quite a while so information overload coming back now. Stopped raiding after getting AotC for Raz 😅

Torn between carrying on as Sin rogue or going Spriest atm * x files music *

[gusty mirage]

not broken, just never made it live

it was supposed to have

but didn't for whatever reason

[spice surge]

Ah ok

[balmy condor]

pin updated yep

!ts

[prisma monolith]

<t:1683244750:f>

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

wtf

timestamp broke

[normal kite]

The spore pin is gone, does that mean it works as intended again?

[balmy condor]

ah

there it is

[balmy condor]

no

I just combined it into the current pin

[normal kite]

Ah I see

[balmy condor]

spore is working as intended, as in, the shit version is intended

[haughty flicker]

[thorn adder]

patch stonks?

[balmy condor]

yeh probaBLY

[turbid heath]

Spore?

Talk to me

[thorn adder]

spore does not proc with your poisons is what i got from it

[obsidian beacon]

Yeah one CAN. But I want it to not feel bad ty

[balmy condor]

what

[thorn adder]

am i stupid

or

[balmy condor]

the issue with shoulders is it can't proc while the dot is ticking

so the uptime is worse than we thought

[thorn adder]

ok i took dot and posions as the same thing

my bad

[turbid heath]

Is there tonnes of new crafted gear implemented this patch?

[balmy condor]

just 2

shoulders and shadowflame

[west swallow]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[spice surge]

Technically the pvp boots are "new" in a way that theyre useful for pve now, mostly confined to dungeons though

[turbid heath]

Annoying, if I craft shoulders I'll lose 4set lol

[balmy condor]

well you shouldn't be crafting shoulders

so that's not really a concern

[turbid heath]

Roger

[storm belfry]

Doesn’t feel bad to me. Nor does it hold me back

Could have improvements for sure tho

[fleet pagoda]

for the spore shoulders; which proc is it that can't occur during the DoT? the immediate decay? or acquisition of Ever-Decaying Spores stacks?

[balmy condor]

the stacks

[fleet pagoda]

ty papa

[bitter aurora]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[split cipher]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[main vessel]

is this like when you were able to go back to Kanto in Pokemon Gold and Silver

[viscid spear]

Naw, like when Sailor Moon is actually a precursor to Casshern Sins

[main vessel]

I know one of those two things

[narrow ember]

If i already have crafted dagger at 421 is it still worth to craft a new one at 424?

[boreal valley]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[languid pier]

Did priority change this patch?

Im seeing alot of Haste/mastery

[boreal valley]

Are tier bonue sims out yet?

[grim tangle]

yes

[boreal valley]

Any link?

[grim tangle]

yes

[real wraith]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[balmy condor]

just how the cookie crumbles

it didn't really change that much

its still stupid amounts of crit

and then some mix of mastery and haste

itemization just happened like that

[languid pier]

so ohw much % crit is the safe cap?

[peak bobcat]

All the crit

After 100% you are probably safe

[balmy condor]

^

100% is a pretty safe cap for crit

think it drops off pretty hard after that

[silk bane]

i have 98.9% only can i still play sin? or i need to recraft everything?

[balmy condor]

idk if you can recraft for that last 1%

[silk bane]

its so rough, im sure if i had that 1% more my -4 terros parse woulda been a 100

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[balmy condor]

real

[oak sky]

I remember in sanctum crit didnt even lose value until like 50%

[balmy condor]

frst

[oak sky]

I think bis gear was like 49% from gear or something

[silk bane]

remember that one guy here who was saying frost shard was fun engaging gameplay?

one of the takes of all time

[balmy condor]

98% to 100%

would require going from 22k crit to 23k

[languid pier]

[balmy condor]

doable