What is happening in my World of Warcraft channel dedicated to Assassination Rogues???
#assassination
limber lion
gray crest
Idk what you mean. This is OT2
limber lion
My mom got a new puppy
uncut echo
My mom got a new puppy
Pic
echo cargo
limber lion
What’s their name?
Lara :)
quasi pine
This cute lad will not be happy on what blizzard will do to assa next patch (nothing)
spiral viper
Super biased but here’s my old doxie not being excited…
quaint nimbus
here's my girl Star :>
spice spire
The boy
thorn fjord
Just did an RLP with another rogue... dude finished at 119k
had more than 250 timed 20s lol
made my epeen feel smoll
i finished at 101 lol
uncut echo
I did a 136k rlp one time
thorn fjord
I need more mastery
It’s sitting at like 48
But my crit and verse is through the roof
So much higher st
ebon notch
were you playing assa
thorn fjord
No
spice spire
Cowards
gray crest
What kind of dog is George
earnest remnant
anti doomer kind
spice spire
English shepherd mozed with other shit
royal lantern
What kind of dog is George
perfect one
strange python
hey guyys, I checked some kurog +7 min fights and players are there using second Exsa with third Deathmark, wouldnt it be better use it on CD with puzzle and then again in execute with last Deathmark?
oak sky
Yeah
uncut echo
It’s a girl
storm belfry
spice spire
Found out what the 2nd one is going to be <:CatChest:1082969567585914942>
Congrats homie 
And I’m so sorry
storm belfry
Lmao. I know we wanted another boy. But it’s all good. We take those. Long as she’s healthy I’m chillin
storm belfry
Lol ty Ahri
strange python
anti doomer kind
We need more doomers
uncut echo
No we don't
royal lantern
wait, we can still upgrade crafted gear next patch right?
uncut echo
Yes
earnest remnant
silk bane
I downloaded poe, looked at talent tree, turned off computer, went outside and touched grass
silk bane
was a good gaming session
gusty mirage
shit game
strange python
PoE is the HoN of arpgs
royal lantern
I downloaded poe, looked at talent tree, turned off computer, went outside and t...
just do what 99,9999999% of PoE players do: copy a build
like
NOBODY makes their own build in poe
eager sorrel
I downloaded poe, looked at talent tree, turned off computer, went outside and t...
It's fake complexity, nodes lack balance and you need to hit the 'reasonable' defensive nodes on the tree.
If you are just following a build guide the games ez
royal lantern
gray crest
you guys should play poe
What about Minecraft big?
silk bane
yeah thats what I keep hearing, to just follow a guide. Idk maybe if rogues not fun next tier ill play POE while I cope about our for sure 10.2 patch.
gray crest
There's a reason Minecraft is one of the most popular games, the children yearn for the mines
silk bane
but DF is too fun of an expac so far for me to try a whole ass new game
royal lantern
the poe build experience for most people:
new league starts
open google, type: PoE "league name" best build (the REALLY fancy people type PoE best league starter)
copy paste the build
congratz, you are now playing poe
if the build involves bow's, its troll, just ask @gusty mirage
royal lantern
I'm swapping to a bow build soon
its poe, you play what fits
its just, if you wanna play a summoner build, chances are high you will go necromancer lol
or if you wanna go a crit/powercharge build, its probs gonna be assassin
but there is no "set rules"
royal lantern
marauder, the "warrior" class, had scorching ray as 1 of its best builds for a long time (the poe version of the big FUCK YOU laser beam)
rare jackal
sin didnt get nerfed recently or am i crazy
royal lantern
class just means "where do you start in the skill tree and what are your subclass options"
gusty mirage
class just means "where do you start in the skill tree and what are your subclas...
unless you play duelist -> champ
then you just play everything
rare jackal
it was never good
i know but that wasnt the question
gusty mirage
because it's OP
silk bane
oh! I see, okay thats kinda cool dope dope
silk bane
10.1 is my poe tier then for sure! >:)
rare jackal
then i just suck suddenly i guess
royal lantern
its just that litearlly EVERYTHING that is not rogue got 200000buffs at this point
dont need nerfs, when everyone else more or less has 10-20% aura buffs since DF release
uncut echo
then i just suck suddenly i guess
I can provide a log review for you if you'd like
eager sorrel
unless you play duelist -> champ
I'm just afk hiero shockwave totems this season.
serene fossil
its just that litearlly EVERYTHING that is not rogue got 200000buffs at this poi...
Rogue specs be like
rare jackal
I can provide a log review for you if you'd like
idk i think its more of a mental thing
went from rank 3 log to blue log on eranog
it weird
maybe im just not focused rigth now
uncut echo
The gradiant isn't that large
rare jackal
thats true
kurog is also a fight i have a really hard time parsing on as sin despite feeling like im playing it decently
uncut echo
Whispyr beat me by 56 dps
spice spire
is oxi r34?
earnest remnant
Whispyr beat me by 56 dps
gapped
uncut echo
He had 424 grieftorch
gusty mirage
Whispyr beat me by 56 dps
get bodied nerd
gusty mirage
all I'm hearing is excuses
earnest remnant
completely out gamed
earnest remnant
uncut echo
<:Lazel:772179165964795915>
Why bulli
earnest remnant
spice spire
Good changes
And explosives removed
They’re 2/2 today
It’s a good day
I can feel it
A good day for 5m slow mode 
halcyon arch
Dont jinx
halcyon arch
assa rework inc
Nice jinx
royal lantern
(im dying from a copium overdose rn, no more oxygen left in my room)
tawny bloom
finally got my eranog ring
thankfully ive farmed this boss every week to now get it through loot council
lovely
sweet dawn
My blood has transformed into grade A copium
echo heath
Came back here to check on our rework, guess I'll check again in a few hours
Today is the day I just know it
thorn fjord
Solid changes today
uncut echo
It's not hopium
oak sky
A good day for 5m slow mode <:PepePoint:905107351785324566>
CANT WAIT
oak sky
Im still not coping
ember mural
oak sky
But this was good shit from blizzard
spice spire
Ye
oak sky
(Except raging maybe)
Unless you can still soothe it
If you can still soothe then raging is fine
spice spire
It’s fine, I can go feral next tier absolute worst case 
oak sky
Literally me (i have no opportunity to reroll)
ebon notch
actually maybe we slow mode because of all the hype
oak sky
No yeah these are really good changes
Fuck explosive
@ebon notch what do you know about the raging change
Is the speculation that you can still soothe it
proven ferry
I think we will not get any sin changes in 10.1 and in 10.1.5 we will get a sweet rework 🙂
uncut echo
actually maybe we slow mode because of all the hype
Critical bloom
oak sky
I think we will not get any sin changes in 10.1 and in 10.1.5 we will get a swee...
I dont really think anything at this point
Maybe a kingsbane buff 
silk bane
the duality of man, do I doom cuz uh 'checks note' NO ROGUE MENTIONS IN PTR NOTES? or do I not doom cuz banger Affix changes
ebon notch
Is the speculation that you can still soothe it
no clue
hoping so if it keeps the same name
oak sky
Like i mean
I feel like that has potential to be a negative change
If you cant soothe prio mobs
But if you can then it actually could be a really cool affix
spice spire
actually maybe we slow mode because of all the hype
Waiting for the no changes to sin rogue post
Or nerfs
So win can see the infinite doom
wary ice
sin nerfs 
silk bane
If you cant soothe prio mobs
but like how many packs can u think of right now that have more than say 2 mobs that need to be cc'd
it sys they cant be cc'd so i think u can still kick them just not cc them
its a really good change imo.
burnt latch
hi guys. saw m+ changes. any news on rogue changes? what are we excepting?
deft flicker
Sepsis rework
wary ice
hi guys. saw m+ changes. any news on rogue changes? what are we excepting?
rogue stonks rising cause raging rework makes shiv more (equally?) valuable - this counts as a sin nerf because its another rogue cd they're forced to use for dps
deft flicker
Like leave the icon but change the effect to some sort of TotM (except idk if that will even work with any of the specs that have access to it)
storm belfry
hi guys. saw m+ changes. any news on rogue changes? what are we excepting?
Exsang removal. Vendetta choice node w DM. Uncapped IC
royal lantern
ah yes
vendetta choice node with dm
you guys know the real problems
change a cd with the same cd
modest glen
Make FoK generate cp like shuriken storm
storm belfry
<:kekman:1069601603860037723>
Have you seen this man?
royal lantern
Have you seen this man?
?
storm belfry
No streams. MIA
RuneScape gottem ig
Haven’t seen him or onezy w ellesmere and nerf 
burnt latch
rogue stonks rising cause raging rework makes shiv more (equally?) valuable - th...
oh thats actually good. I heard some talk that sin would have been equal if not better than sub this tier if u didnt have to press shiv on cd (instead of utility. I wonder if they will nerf assa because of the change, or will it not matter..
silk bane
can we stop dooming and just be happy that we are not people commenting on wowhead that these new affix changes are bad cuz theyre taking the 'fun challenge' out of M+?
actually nevermind
i can see herbie commebnt hat shit
im onto you mr warcieft
burnt latch
i dont have a wowhead account
proven ferry
lol
wary ice
can we stop dooming and just be happy that we are not people commenting on wowhe...
i dont pay 15 dollars a month to not doom
oak sky
but like how many packs can u think of right now that have more than say 2 mobs ...
Well like certain mobs if you dont stun them like gray casts they can fuck someone/multiple people up
silk bane
i dont have a wowhead account
thats what someone with a wowhaed account would say Susge
burnt latch
subtle tundra
hi guys. saw m+ changes. any news on rogue changes? what are we excepting?
expect a block
oak sky
Yep a block
proven ferry
Well like certain mobs if you dont stun them like gray casts they can fuck someo...
Correct, it will make chain pulling difficult before the V boss of AA ( Armin wanted an example)
silk bane
Well like certain mobs if you dont stun them like gray casts they can fuck someo...
yeah but theres usually one of those per pack. so u just need to save shiv for those. not many packs that have multiple of those. and u can even combine packs but just focus one so it hits 30% faster insta shiv it and then focus the other one after. its such a good change
oak sky
yeah but theres usually one of those per pack. so u just need to save shiv for t...
Well yeah my whole argument was that if you cant soothe the mobs the affix would be super awful
But like if its not then its probably a good change
silk bane
yepge makes sense. shiv pretty important now! with BFA dungeons rogue gonna be in great demand next tier!
wary ice
The raging change is net 0 imo if: you can still soothe it and you cna still kick adds while they're under the effects.
if either isnt true its probably harder
silk bane
specially that we can take care of so many of the affixes on our own yepge
royal lantern
yepge makes sense. shiv pretty important now! with BFA dungeons rogue gonna be i...
thats how blizzard is making assa good for m+, AP is meta now
trust me bro
its real
wary ice
AP + Ironwire we're basically ret-adin with how well we handle affixes
silk bane
The raging change is net 0 imo if: you can still soothe it and you cna still kic...
not even close. imagine first pull ruby. half those casters would get raging and they start molesting your tank. or first pull AA. or any big pulls where theres more than 1 big boi. u would legit have to ignore them and tell your tank gl live buddy.
but this change the tank is fine
u just need to soothe the one important target and stop that person
making it more interesting than oh its just your tank getting buttblasted
cerulean walrus
AP? Arterial Precision. Azerite Power. Artifact Power. Coincidence? Absolutely not.
wary ice
i mean yaeh if you compare "not handling raging at all" to "handling raging" the new one will be easier
silk bane
how do u handle like 6 enraged mobs?
royal lantern
AP? Arterial Precision. *Azerite Power*. **Artifact Power**. Coincidence? Absolu...
BORROWED POWER CONFIRMED? IS DRAGONFLIGHT DOOMED?
wary ice
stuns
royal lantern
you should make a clickbait yt channel man
cerulean walrus
Just kill them
royal lantern
how do u handle like 6 enraged mobs?
you kill them
cerulean walrus
silk bane
right.... cuz people could full stun the bugs in first pull AA....
u would legit end up ignoring them and trying to shiv them on cd and ignore the big dudes
wary ice
balmy condor
how do u handle like 6 enraged mobs?
Just interrupt
BOZO
Interrupting locks them from using spells from that school of magic as well
For like 0.2 seconds
spice spire
Just garrote them from stealth bozo
cerulean walrus
Yeah that’s plenty of time dog
silk bane
the dooooming is here
spice spire
6s silence
spice spire
No
balmy condor
Just garrote them from stealth bozo
Silence is a CC
silk bane
but yeah overall a huge fan of this change
spice spire
Silence is a CC
CC deez buddy
proven ferry
😮
proven ferry
I like DeathMark more
cerulean walrus
GARRET Tree
proven ferry
It goes well with our Assasin and us being master of the poisons yada yada
spice spire
Guys…. Maybe the Vendetta days were better <:ithurts:1076753309915947029>
Maybe we just miss musclebrah
cerulean walrus
Maybe the real Musclebrah was the Garrets we made along the way
spice spire
So real bestie
silk bane
maybe the real musclebrah was inside us all this time 😦
balmy condor
I wish
thorny pond
Dude, I am jacked
brazen zodiac
o.o
royal lantern
Maybe the real Musclebrah was the Garrets we made along the way
wich garret? garret1? garret2 or garret3?
spice spire
Dude, I am jacked
Wish we were still JO bros
silk bane
I wish I was musclebrah so Whispyr would wish I was inside him all this time...
if I get banned know that oxi was jelly and did this out of spite
spice spire
I just said I wish beach and I were still jo bros yet that wasn’t the most wild thing within a minute
Mfs wildin
brazen zodiac
that is
silk bane
we just down bad a tthis point
brazen zodiac
a pair of final words if ive ever seen one
cerulean walrus
Oxi doesn’t need to ban you. Imagine thinking a gigachad like him needs to ban some bozo to get that bussy.
silk bane
send pics
brazen zodiac
didnt take one, i never have my phone on me. but the guy was so tiny, and sooo heavy too!
silk bane
awwww sounds like a good boi
brazen zodiac
for a little dog he sure was heavier than i would've expected.
dusk summit
How does assa rogue go so long with out buffs? Yet other classes get mega buffs 😦
balmy condor
I wish I was musclebrah so Whispyr would wish I was inside him all this time...
You’re so real for that
silk bane
:3 :3 pls have mercy, I lost a 26 ruby last night to the gf aggro. Still havent recovered mentally. idk what im saying
spice spire
uncut echo
:3 :3 pls have mercy, I lost a 26 ruby last night to the gf aggro. Still havent ...
Beat her
balmy condor
On the damage meters in game right bestie
echo heath
I don't know who Garrett is but he sounds like a dick
silk bane
right bestie?\
cerulean walrus
uncut echo
Women are untouchable (unless they wanna be)
spice spire
Y’all too horny for PTR day
uncut echo
someone come claim her
balmy condor
someone come claim her
It’s trash day tomorrow I’ll make sure to put her out on the curb tonight
cerulean walrus
Who the fuck is Garrett and why the fuck are you Exsanguinating him?
silk bane
It’s trash day tomorrow I’ll make sure to put her out on the curb tonight
thanks boo ill come pick her up then at 8!
uncut echo
silk bane
Susge
spice spire
cerulean walrus
Storm-Eater’s Doom
balmy condor
Blizzards edging us
cerulean walrus
God I can’t wait to DOOOOOOOOOM all over the channel
balmy condor
Makes our pelvic muscles stronger
echo heath
I'm more excited to watch the dooming than i would be if we got buffs tbh
cerulean walrus
FUUUUUUUUCK
balmy condor
Do you kegels
echo heath
Kegels followed by some hot ice cubes
balmy condor
Some what
uncut echo
Kegels are hard
cerulean walrus
Yoooooo you ever put gold bond on your balls after a shower?
Shit’s painful bruh
Like straight out of the shower
Puff puff
balmy condor
Yoooooo you ever put gold bond on your balls after a shower?
But why
thorny pond
#off-topic police
cerulean walrus
<#124169701881282560> police
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silk bane
alright alright while we wait for doom, can we meme about the UH changes? kinda banger spec
i know 1 day stats are meme this is purely for meme purposes
royal lantern
i mean
the entire UH buff thing was weird
"we buff UH so it can do more dmg outside of its cd"
BUFFS ARMY
??????????????????????????
silk bane
ngl its kinda funny that if u do 100k on terros as UH thats a 90 parse LOL
lyric crater
be nice if sin got a buff for a change
unreal bear
good spec
i chalk up all balance to whatever dev is in a guild that's hardstuck progging
unborn geode
i saw one doing that and i just stopped and stared at the meter going ... really? like..... ugh
grim jay
BUFFS ARMY
army buffs apo
which is kinda outside of its big burst
aswell
so its semi-valid
near valley
Do you kegels
spice surge
the entire UH buff thing was weird
They were also already in the top specs for terros, yet they received ~8% ST buffs?
balmy condor
<:starege:923197272064426075>
I mean, do you?
near valley
i plead the 5th
near valley
Yoooooo you ever put gold bond on your balls after a shower?
i prefer icy hot myself
unborn geode
They were also already in the top specs for terros, yet they received ~8% ST buf...
i mean more cries create a louder cry
echo heath
How else are you supposed to know if you're truly alive unless you're rubbing jalapeños on your testicals
ebon notch
that should be pinned
near valley
How else are you supposed to know if you're truly alive unless you're rubbing ja...
muy caliente
royal lantern
How else are you supposed to know if you're truly alive unless you're rubbing ja...
real
burnt latch
that should be pinned
+1
Fucking spitting facts
Make this man community figure cuz he speaks for the community as a whole
true basalt
Man Iron wire is so valuable… i fucking love it
gusty mirage
spice spire
Real
ebon notch
Make this man community figure cuz he speaks for the community as a whole
whispyr would probably rather chew his own leg off than make me CF
gusty mirage
imagine thinking it's a one man decision
burnt latch
<@628254386249793538> when ru gonna have a grom clip
I only have positive thoughts so i cant be clipped
ebon notch
imagine thinking it's a one man decision
i thought the others had jumped off a bridge reading the sentence
burnt latch
whispyr would probably rather chew his own leg off than make me CF
I was talking about the jalopeno testicle guy but id give u a vote too hombre
gusty mirage
i thought the others had jumped off a bridge reading the sentence
no that's me deciding I want a mageblood this league
ebon notch
lmao
oak sky
true
oak sky
for feral maybe
burnt latch
oak sky
i mean anyways why would they make fotmpala a cf
cfs have to force rogue at all times
and preferably be a borderline one trick
ebon notch
half the mods in this server dont even play
rigid mango
look at <@231503278695907328>
royal lantern
imagine thinking it's a one man decision
we all know its randomly generated
oak sky
lets promote everyone that randomly schizes out and rages at other people
gusty mirage
half the mods in this server dont even play
?
royal lantern
purple names get bored and just think "wanna make a powerdrunk mod?"
gusty mirage
besides zine
oak sky
or maybe people that call to action against devs
gusty mirage
who doesn't play
ebon notch
lets promote everyone that randomly schizes out and rages at other people
you'd be a one man show
oak sky
i think thats a good idea
oak sky
you'd be a one man show
take this to dms please i dont understand why you got so upset at me over this and are ignoring me
burnt latch
Make me communist figure and i will make sure everyone here gets equal attention, feedback to devs and similar timeout lenght for all
oak sky
like we're friends and i thought you had a bad take idk why you took it so personally
gusty mirage
Make me communist figure and i will make sure everyone here gets equal attention...
how about I make you take a nap young herbert?
burnt latch
I would also put end to misuse of power by the higher ups (unrelated to recent threats ive received)
burnt latch
now i feel left out
burnt latch
take this to dms please i dont understand why you got so upset at me over this a...
Where can i go and read this lore it sounds like content
oak sky
nah man
gusty mirage
favoritism
zine found the way to my heart in bfa
oak sky
i just like
echo heath
What's going on here are we having a server mutiny?
oak sky
want to resolve it herbie
rigid mango
zine found the way to my heart in bfa
yah flaming you seems to work
gusty mirage
yah flaming you seems to work
rigid mango
gusty mirage
you just have that next level rizz
echo heath
Ahri is the golden child, they'll be the next mod
royal lantern
What's going on here are we having a server mutiny?
mutiny=outlaw=pirate=cringe
no thanks, i pass
burnt latch
want to resolve it herbie
When this happen i wanna go read and decide my side
gusty mirage
I'll demote quake right now
spice spire
Warcieft is literally my son
gusty mirage
say I won't
oak sky
Ahri is the golden child, they'll be the next mod
thats not how the server works
oak sky
When this happen i wanna go read and decide my side
there are no sides
oak sky
like im not gonna tell you to go read some stupid argument
rigid mango
you just have that next level rizz
That's why they call me the rizzler of oz
oak sky
when my friend now doesn't want to talk to me
burnt latch
Warcieft is literally my son
This is true
gusty mirage
This is true
that would make me your step grandfather
royal lantern
no
royal lantern
there is no pvp shadowblade
near valley
near valley
high quality content
5 fps gif
btw remember when @gusty mirage used to be a filthy green name
gusty mirage
I remember when I used to be a red name
spice spire
Same
rigid mango
same 👴
silk bane
same
spice spire
Alright grandpa let’s get you to bed
near valley
veteran
burnt latch
I remember when I used to be a red name
Im suprised u remember this many things at your grand old age
burnt latch
near valley
who else used to think the world was in black and white when you were a kid
oak sky
burnt latch
I was never kid
near valley
as in anything b4 1950s was all black and white
and then suddenly color just happened
spice spire
Oh I thought this was a more profound thing
near valley
I was never kid
just spawned
burnt latch
Cant say ive spent much time thinking about this but i suppose its possible people back in the day didnt have color
Nobody is alive from like 1800s to confirm if they did or did not have color
near valley
Nah I was never that dumb
look at mr 200iq childhood over here
next you'll tell me you never tried eating ants smh
spice spire
Nah I tried that
My ass can’t see color and didn’t know until I was 15, legit thought I was just unable to color because I was so stupid
So idk about that chief
near valley
My ass can’t see color and didn’t know until I was 15, legit thought I was just ...
colorblind?
spice spire
Yeah
near valley
https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-colour-blind-gif-26446518
this some kind of color blind test?
red swift
I like this one
near valley
all i see is orange swirling around
near valley
I ain’t a bitch irl
spice spire
I don’t even see that
ocean goblet
Might be a dancing cat
near valley
omg it is a cat
ocean goblet
I think I might be losing it staring for too long though
balmy condor
who else used to think the world was in black and white when you were a kid
in second grade some kid told me that my moms so old her memory's in black and white and when my mom picked me up from school I ran to her and cried because I felt so bad for her
near valley
in second grade some kid told me that my moms so old her memory's in black and w...
kid woke up and chose violence
near valley
in second grade some kid told me that my moms so old her memory's in black and w...
did she have memories in black and white though? 
balmy condor
she did not
near valley
damn there goes my theory
uncut echo
why wait
sweet dawn
So I can be happy that sin gets buffed or be happy that sin gets no changes (I'm a masochist)
spice spire
(Lil loon wants to have the meme completed)
royal lantern
in second grade some kid told me that my moms so old her memory's in black and w...
when i was little, i thought that the world was just black&white back in the days because all the old movies where like that
(i was not a smart child)
(im still stupid)
near valley
when i was little, i thought that the world was just black&white back in the day...
someone else gets it
cobalt hemlock
new patch doom
silk bane
mr mods. can we publicly doom or what
burnt latch
Ahahahaha
burnt latch
Cooking the popcorn
near valley
Slowmode inbound
burnt latch
This is fooor sure a slowmode
silk bane
to be fair though, there isnt anything new on any class. its just a summary of the changes so far
cobalt hemlock
we have doomblade for reason it friendly fired tho
burnt latch
to be fair though, there isnt anything new on any class. its just a summary of t...
Thats the whole bit
Ohh i read wrong
Nothing new on any class?
cobalt hemlock
if its summary its not really new no
cobalt hemlock
its half troll doom
silk bane
well
oak sky
Im gonna :3 in :3
cobalt hemlock
mages beeing rough and then nerfing mages seems doomy too
gray crest
it is definitely one of the patchnotes of all time
silk bane
eyyyy destro got a tier set redesign lets get it
somber fractal
let the dooming commence. there is no way they have any actual changes planned for us if the patch goes live in 3 weeks
eager solstice
Trololol, everyone expecting some type of buff instead we get a nerf to our tier set yikes
silk bane
this man starting to see things....
hes seeing through the words on the post, for the real truth. the true meaning
let him cook
which part they nerfed our prophet?
oak sky
just dont doom
eager solstice
Crimson Tempest deals an additional 20% damage as Nature (was 40%).
silk bane
that was like 2 weeks ago tuning?
somber fractal
Crimson Tempest deals an additional 20% damage as Nature (was 40%).
it was 33/33 now its' 40/20
somber fractal
they had to do that. no way you let trinkets scale by 40% higher for a single spec
gray crest
we literally dont even know if it was worth pressing crimson tempest on st, how are you gonna complain about something like that when you dont even know if it was a dps gain
eager solstice
we literally dont even know if it was worth pressing crimson tempest on st, how ...
what?
40 to 20% seems like a nerf to CT
w
austere fulcrum
Why would u ct on single target ??
eager solstice
whether ST or AOE
oak sky
they had to do that. no way you let trinkets scale by 40% higher for a single sp...
i mean doesnt this remove like every other ability besides the tier piece
lmao
somber fractal
i mean doesnt this remove like every other ability besides the tier piece
what other fire/shadow did they have besides bone brew
oak sky
oh was it only fire and shadow originally
silk bane
alright that was fun! cyall later
somber fractal
oh was it only fire and shadow originally
yeah it was always just fire and shadow damage
strong merlin
but bonedust does not interact with aberrus 4p if I remember
somber fractal
well not anymore for sure
strong merlin
wasn't before that too
royal lantern
@spice spire slowmode when?
somber fractal
does anyone have a screenshot of that post they made about exsang when they nerfed it to 3 minutes then said they are gonna rework it?
gray crest
40 to 20% seems like a nerf to CT
its 33% to 20, and you are completely forgetting about the 33% to 40% for rupture. if you did even basic math on a damage dslice break down its still a buff
somber fractal
im a simple man i just want rupture to do more damage for sin than it does for sub
you know...the bleed spec
runic hinge
Back off my mute roulette just in time for slow mode.
royal lantern
you know...the bleed spec
yeha, but sub is the finisher spec, and rupture is a finisher, so sub should do more dmg with a bleed
echo heath
Don't worry team, those sin buffs are coming any day now, they're just working out the finer details right now
true basalt
feels satisfying to outdps an unholydk with a pocket pi
royal lantern
the fuck is the dk doing
gray crest
makes me question how the tank was pulling
true basalt
We had massive pulls
austere fulcrum
feels satisfying to outdps an unholydk with a pocket pi
Key ?
true basalt
Nokhud
near valley
wonder if he was playing disease or wounds
austere fulcrum
Yo nokhud is good for us, so accurate looking to dmg i guess 19/20 key
true basalt
it was 19
royal lantern
ye, probs a mix of you playing good, and the dk beeing not that great/undergeared then i gues
near valley
tbf ww tier was buffing trinkets by 40 percent
near valley
i mean
u don't innately have fire or shadow damage anyway as ww
so whole 4p was already just for the 2p at the end of the day
grim jay
yeah no
as before the nerf it affected trinkets etc
which was strong
and now its beyond weak
near valley
yeah
what im saying is since they likely didnt want it to work with trinkets anyway
the tier was shit from inception anyway
grim jay
might be, or they listened to monks complaining that it is that way
and just decided to crap on it
prolly in the worst spot now
as far as dps specs go
😄
royal lantern
the tier was shit from inception anyway
you know, i hear that from a high amount of specs lol
near valley
trueeee
royal lantern
sub is shit, assa is shit, fire is shit, enh dont wanna play it
grim jay
arms 4p is shit
near valley
common theme
modest glen
But they seem to listen to feedback from other specs
modest glen
Or warlock i mean
royal lantern
mage/monk are like rogue: just completely ignored
grim jay
mage/monk are like rogue: just completely ignored
no
mage got nerfed
just arcane ignored
royal lantern
mage is litearlly "take a few % changes and shut up"
royal lantern
undertuned can be fixed in 5min
grim jay
yeah can
royal lantern
its worse when it plays bad
modest glen
Lets look forward to 10.2
near valley
flint tusk
Lets look forward to 10.2
Yeh they will change sin in 10.2
uncut echo
Bruv I’m driving
Then put down the gd phone and drive safe king
Guys, we're getting numerical buffs after week 1 heroic, not 10.2
modest glen
All damage increases by 3% woho
slow needle
Wait, patch notes came out and #assassination isn't in slow mode?
flint tusk
Says the yellow name. 👀
uncut echo
I guarantee you I'm right
uncut echo
Says the yellow name. 👀
Color banter cringe
flint tusk
Color banter cringe
It’s all we have
flint tusk
We’ve run out of things to cook
rocky ruin
Can someone explain to me why are no they changes literally for the rogue?
Is our class so fucking amazing and we don’t know or it's just they hands are tied and they can't do nothing about the rogue specs atm
uncut echo
Can someone explain to me why are no they changes literally for the rogue?
Is o...
Because there isn't changes for rogue right now
It's that simple
uncut echo
It’s all we have
It isn't, you could use this channel to help people learn the class
flint tusk
If we wanna go all tinfoil hat.
The rogue ‘dev’ was moved onto something else and not replaced.
slow needle
Can someone explain to me why are no they changes literally for the rogue?
Is o...
They made PvP changes this week at least
But in all seriousness its probably because they either think other things are higher priority than rogue or they aren't quite decided what changes to make just yet.
oak sky
If we wanna go all tinfoil hat.
The rogue ‘dev’ was moved onto something else a...
lets not go tinfoil hat homie
slow needle
If we wanna go all tinfoil hat.
The rogue ‘dev’ was moved onto something else a...
Realz was very clear when he communicated here during the beta that there wasn't a rogue dev and he was part of a larger team all working on the the class at the same time.
Along with DH.
(If you do wanna go tin foil DH has also seen very few changes)
steel spire
Poison bomb after every 5+ envenom
eager solstice
We're getting so close to patch, I doubt there's any real changes for rogue in 10.1, what do you guys think?
flint tusk
Yeh there will be zero changes at this point
slow needle
Well they have to change Outlaw. 2p is currently giga bugged.
strange python
I'm impressed. Ptr build went up and no slow mode
eager solstice
objectively speaking, sub still looking best in 10.1, no?
balmy condor
dooming has been a minimum so far
strange python
We're getting so close to patch, I doubt there's any real changes for rogue in 1...
Tuning will be inevitable at some level. Class changes are extremely unlikely with three weeks to go.
eager solstice
Tuning will be inevitable at some level. Class changes are extremely unlikely wi...
I agree
flint tusk
Realz was very clear when he communicated here during the beta that there wasn't...
Problem i have with that. It seems very odd all classes were getting tuning.
Then the second 10.0.5 dropped mage dh rogue have had next to nothing while other classes continue to be tuned.
I’m just hoping we’re nearly the end of this very odd tunnel.
So we can get this ‘rework’ that was discussed at the nuking of 
true basalt
ye, probs a mix of you playing good, and the dk beeing not that great/undergeare...
im a noob, i still have a hard time multidotting after IC dots ends, and me and dk were the same ilvl, but yeah, its satisfying to see the yellow bar as 1st dps
even put sounds on my WA to help me with multidotting
oak sky
objectively speaking, sub still looking best in 10.1, no?
pretty sure sub 4p is still super beans
eager solstice
pretty sure sub 4p is still super beans
beans good or bad? not familiar with the lingo
balmy condor
pinto or refried
eager solstice
black or red?
gray crest
there are more changes
oak sky
beans good or bad? not familiar with the lingo
bad
granite widget
sub 4p will be good in keys 
sweet dawn
A day with patch notes and no slow mode, so proud of you guys ❤️
somber fractal
anyone else remember that one time ret got an entire spec rework but they didn't follow through on their promise to change exsang? those were wild times.
flint tusk
Rework exsang next patch
gaunt moat
I'm actually surprised no rogue set changes.
I was told outlaw's bugged to give to give extra damage
oak sky
thought they fixed that already
somber fractal
the real problem is we dont doom hard enough. whenever warlocks are unhappy they cry out in pain so loudly that they get their demands. squeaky wheel gets the grease
slow needle
If you think that works then go doom on the forums.
somber fractal
way ahead of you
oak sky
the real problem is we dont doom hard enough. whenever warlocks are unhappy they...
this is like actually not true lol
if blizzard decided rogue was fine like 6 months ago they aren't changing their mind now
and we just chill and play
or reroll
somber fractal
thank you @oak sky for demonstrating the complacency that lands us in this situation
gusty mirage
the real problem is we dont doom hard enough. whenever warlocks are unhappy they...
the real problem is you think blizzard cares about your whining
people have been bitching in here for the last 3 months ad nauseum
and realz reads the server
and nothing changed
go figure
there goes your grand conspiracy
strange python
Ehhhh
oak sky
yeah like i dont know why you think its worth complaining more
echo heath
Half the people dooming here every week couldn't put a coherent thought on paper on the official forums anyway, their entire existence is pointless.
oak sky
its so pointless at this point
somber fractal
the real problem is you think blizzard cares about your whining
i know they dont care about MY whining. that's why everyone needs to whine in unison
gusty mirage
this channel has been put in slow mode about 40 times in the last 2 months
slow needle
i know they dont care about MY whining. that's why everyone needs to whine in un...
Or we could put together coherent feedback?
gusty mirage
maybe you guys can stop your mental gymnastic as to why you're not being heard in here and go on a medium where they actually seem to listen to
strange python
There's a decent pattern to blizzard catering to community outrage. The issue is that the outrage needs to be more than just the class discord. If you don't have reddit, the forums, Twitter, and content creators doing the whining, they won't care.
scenic basin
They removed explosive so some whining must work.
gusty mirage
and we're tired of hearing you bitch
strange python
^
Blizzard doesn't "not listen" to whines. They just don't listen to a class with a small playerbase whining in their own class discord
gusty mirage
like I'm unsure of why people think there's some grand conspiracy
because the verbiage changes every time you cry about something
strange python
like I'm unsure of why people think there's some grand conspiracy
Need a cope
final star
Hear me out Oxi 🕵️
gusty mirage
first it was "ROGUE THEORYCRAFTERS WANT ROGUE NERFED WAHHHHH"
to the point where whispyr and seli were attacked for saying assassination had too much energy
flint tusk
Correct me if i’m wrong but didn’t blizz say they basically ignore whining and only consider constructive feedback?
Or was that lore on preach’s documentary?
scenic basin
It's clearly a cabal of other leather wearing classes.
oak sky
syre you are acting like I'm being complacent when I'm just trying to help defuse all the dooming that I've been personally contributing to for the past month or so
its over
we just need to deal for now
upper trail
i mean with regards to outlaw is it really whining if we want the set unbugged so we can actually test the tier? isnt that what PTR is for?
oak sky
and not expect anything
oak sky
someone tag me if the whining gets out of control
just put it in slowmode
gusty mirage
kthxbye
final star
slow mode it right now 
echo heath
Correct me if i’m wrong but didn’t blizz say they basically ignore whining and o...
The medium you use and intelligence with which you communicate is important
oak sky
several people are typing slow mode it
somber fractal
it's not a conspiracy, just disappointing. they already told us they were giving us what we wanted with an exsang rework like 5 months ago, and now there is radio silence on the issue. it's not really whining to ask whats the deal with that
strange python
Correct me if i’m wrong but didn’t blizz say they basically ignore whining and o...
That cannot possibly be true because Moonkins, spriests, and enhance shaman have gotten massive buffs/reworks without any functional feedback beyond forum bitching. It's literally just getting the community on your side
gusty mirage
I'll tell you what I've told the 20 other people who had the same concern
feel free to tag realz and use coherent sentences
strange python
When you start seeing "I don't even play priest and they need buffs!" comments on Reddit, that's when you know they're gonna get buffs.
gusty mirage
pre-emptive 1min slowmode
final star
feel free to tag realz and use coherent sentences
Realz is gone
gusty mirage
<:Tinfoilhat:846814712216813619> Realz is gone <:Tinfoilhat:846814712216813619>
he was in the poe channel literally 4 days ago
slow needle
<:Tinfoilhat:846814712216813619> Realz is gone <:Tinfoilhat:846814712216813619>
Nah Realz is in the discord still and even showing as online right now.
final star
You know what I meant by gone, he's still in the discord 
🥛⬅️🏃♂️
near valley
pre-emptive 1min slowmode
make it 5 minutes and you got a deal
strange python
I think realz probably reads this discord and probably has ideas on what to do about rogue, but the class not unplayable and he's not in control of the entire dev team. Our best bet might be to hope we become so brokenly trash that a rework becomes undeniable, tbh.
slow needle
You know what I meant by gone, he's still in the discord <:ICANT:935498354912288...
If you mean gone from Blizzard his linkedin still shows him as working there at least.
oak sky
ion said theres no full rework like i dont think its fair to expect that
near valley
look it ain't all doom and gloom up in this room
strange python
I think a lot of the doom and gloom commenters honestly quit. Either for other specs, other classes, or other games.
flint tusk
look it ain't all doom and gloom up in this room
It’s the bipolar chat.
One minute optimistic happy thoughts, the next doom city
near valley
damn @gusty mirage u actually put a 1 min slowmode
final star
If you mean gone from Blizzard his linkedin still shows him as working there at ...
Sure, doesn't mean he hasn't been reassigned mans sleuthing his linkedin just to deconstruct something too literally 
slow needle
Sure, doesn't mean he hasn't been reassigned <:ICANT:935498354912288768> mans sl...
I'm sorry that I don't speak emoji ma dude. Gotta just read things at face value as you type them. You do you though. 👍
strange python
I'm sorry that I don't speak emoji ma dude. Gotta just read things at face value...
A yellow name not speaking emoji is a rare sight
slow needle
A yellow name not speaking emoji is a rare sight
I just prefer yellow to blue or red.
final star
A yellow name speaking coherently is even harder to find
strange python
Y no pink.
Look what you did, I'm agreeing with Kieron
near valley
as long as the next 3 weeks is tuning for all classes, it'll all be fine guys. 
oak sky
I think a lot of the doom and gloom commenters honestly quit. Either for other s...
nah gloom and doomers usually show up everytime theres patch notes and then leave for a week what are you talking about
runic hinge
4 days without slow mode. Amazing
balmy condor
Bitching in Assassination is so 2022
flint tusk
as long as the next 3 weeks is tuning for all classes, it'll all be fine guys. <...
I can see it now. “Crimson Tempest damage reduced by 50%”
‘ we found sin was using CT in single target applications and like to correct this.
“Poison bomb removed”
‘ we disliked rogue using envenom in aoe situations.’
near valley
everytime Sin enters slowmode, someone gets isekai'd
oak sky
actually nobody being in assassination is so 2022
slow needle
everytime Sin enters slowmode, someone gets isekai'd
Good. Get me out of this world.
true basalt
I love assa 🥰
final star
actually nobody being in assassination is so 2022
nobody being in rogue andrew 
tiny ember
I'm gonna main rogue in D4 cause I expect all the buffs to be there since there are none in wow for rogue ....
oak sky
nobody being in rogue andrew <:Dripgers:924684818279710790>
im probably still playing rogue because i cant reroll
strange python
Go back to 2013 and tell people rogue would be the least played class xd
somber fractal
flint tusk
Go back to 2013 and tell people rogue would be the least played class xd
Is it actually now? Thought that was a meme 😂
final star
im probably still playing rogue because i cant reroll
we got 3 rogues now so never know
near valley
Bitching in Assassination is so 2022
2022 Sin is having a civil war over the state of exsang
uncut echo
Is it actually now? Thought that was a meme 😂
been for a while, near monk but just surpassed it.
strange python
Is it actually now? Thought that was a meme 😂
Yes. Rogue playerbase has tanked.
oak sky
mostly because its the least played pure dps class
near valley
rogue popularity is suprisingly small because combat rogue no longer exists. Fact.
red swift
Recently I've been feeling like it's mages, I barely see any, don't think we have a single mage main in my guild and even in pugs I don't see them too much
oak sky
other individual dps specs are much less popular than rogue specs but rogue overall is the least popular
gray crest
Recently I've been feeling like it's mages, I barely see any, don't think we hav...
its cause arcane is the best spec
strange python
Recently I've been feeling like it's mages, I barely see any, don't think we hav...
At least in raid mage playerbase dwarfs rogue.
flint tusk
I noticed the reduction but damn to being joint bottom is brutal.
I know on my server the raid guilds have hardly got one rogue for each of them.
Remember nearly a whole group being rogues 😂
true basalt
I think that the slowmode is a bit too high, maybe reduce it to 0:15 or 0:30 ( just my opinion)
near valley
all the sub rogue players disappeared after Zul nerfs and never came back
strange python
Problem with sub is that it's an incredibly strong spec with a shockingly small playerbase. Indicative of an unfun/unrewarding spec, imo.
somber fractal
all the sub rogue players disappeared after Zul nerfs and never came back <:KEK...
that was actually insane. destroyed a spec to try to fix a single boss that was poorly designed to begin with
uncut echo
Fuse sin and sub into one spec
near valley
that was actually insane. destroyed a spec to try to fix a single boss that was ...
a small overcorrection 
oak sky
Fuse sin and sub into one spec
very normal take
uncut echo
Idk man, they both do the same thing at this point
gray crest
i think sub and sin were the closest in playstyle back in hfc
near valley
sub has that ninja fantasy but plays nothing like that. Sin is just...sin.
uncut echo
very normal take <:Okay:1068635818345889923>
IDK, I think I'm based for this one. They're actually just identical.
oak sky
i literally think thats the most doomer possible take tho like ur basically saying blizzard cant even maintain 2 distinct current specs
ember mural
slow mode only at 1 minute
somber fractal
i literally think thats the most doomer possible take tho like ur basically sayi...
the last 2 classes only got 2 specs. i think it actually works better that way
uncut echo
I mean everything is so homogenized at this point, sin and sub just feel like "rogue". Why does there need to be a delineation?
oak sky
the last 2 classes only got 2 specs. i think it actually works better that way
yeah because devoker is so well thought out and cool and havoc definitely hasnt had multiple bad and controversial iterations
somber fractal
yeah because devoker is so well thought out and cool and havoc definitely hasnt ...
thats true, but it's easier to fix one spec than try to make them all good
near valley
I mean everything is so homogenized at this point, sin and sub just feel like "r...
can agree with that. Feels like playing 2 halves of the same class and not two distinct classes. meanwhile outlaw plays just completely different. Defo sin and sub need a chnage or merge in identity
uncut echo
Andrew it's fine if you're going to disagree with me, but tell me I'm wrong when I say that the playstyle of builder spender outside of the litearl 8 second dance window is not basically identical.
modest glen
It’s why they dont bother changing anything now. Because they are merging the specs anyway
oak sky
i see the theory of sub literally being the 8 second dance window and the theory of sin being dot refreshing so like I don't really see the identity of the specs being similar, but what blizzard is doing with sub and sin with both replicating shadows/dark brew making sub more of a multidotter and ic pushing sin towards aoe spam definitely makes them closer together. I can obviously see what blizzard is doing but that doesn't mean i agree that it's a good idea
uncut echo
No that's valid and I expect a lot of disagreement. But fantasy identity is at a super crossroads with my idea.
gray crest
sub being a combo class kinda like it was in legion was definitely a fun unique playstyle but the hfc one minute big burst playstyle was my favorite, despite the fact that it was basically assassination at that point
viscid spear
Recently I've been feeling like it's mages, I barely see any, don't think we hav...
All three specs are very middling and what attention we do get from the devs amount to a small buff or a nerf.
red swift
I wanted to play mage but just couldn't get myself to feel excited about either of the specs, arcane looks too complicated for my small brain, I don't like frost fantasy and hearing about hard casting pyroblasts feels super bad for me
viscid spear
Well this latest build did a small nerf to both 2pcs of Fire & Frost
red swift
Yeah I saw, was hoping for some changes that might make me want to play it lol
viscid spear
They're really hurting our AoE potential for a small increase to ST
near valley
hot take but WW clones should belong to Sub
viscid spear
And so far the only good 2T fight appears to be Experiments
Didn't realize Slow Mode was on 
near valley
And so far the only good 2T fight appears to be Experiments
Didn't realize Slow ...
on mythic difficulty sure. isn't it just pure ST for both normal and heroic?
final star
Only Mythic really matters when heroic is hit face against keyboard and you win
viscid spear
on mythic difficulty sure. isn't it just pure ST for both normal and heroic?
Well it's a 3T fight, where you start fighting Neldris, Thadrion comes out when Neldris is 50%, and Rionthus comes out when Thadrion is 50%
Oh wait, that is the Mythic fight
spice spire
Any slow moders in chat?
near valley
Any slow moders in chat?
uncut echo
Only Mythic really matters when heroic is hit face against keyboard and you win
That's not necessarily true though, quite a lot of people struggle with heroic.
fading wigeon
Any slow moders in chat?
Present
final star
That's not necessarily true though, quite a lot of people struggle with heroic.
classes are definitely not balanced around heroic performance ngl
near valley
well ofc not. they're balanced around lfr
uncut echo
nah that's fair, I didn't know that was the original argument. It was balanced around mythic for sure.
brazen zodiac
o.o
oak tangle
name a more iconic duo
near valley
name a more iconic duo
sin and slowmode? finished ur thought for you early
ember mural
echo heath
Everything is fine, I love you all even if your dad's dont
versed mica
Sin channel hours
viscid spear
Everything is fine, I love you all even if your dad's dont
Haven't seen mine in 22 years, so the bar is pretty low.
near valley
Sin channel hours
slowmode during lowest traffic hours 
versed mica
slowmode during lowest traffic hours <:dead:932888396316155934>
Hey, the freaks come out at night
near valley
Hey, the freaks come out at night
nah @balmy condor is here all day
spice spire
Nah he rests during the day
oak sky
thank god for slowmode
gray crest
hes a nocturnal being
near valley
Nah he rests during the day
GM
sweet dawn
WE WERE SO CLOSE
oak sky
it was needed
balmy condor
Nah he rests during the day
Fuck you
spice spire
?
oak sky
i got like no sleep last night but i took a fat nap
spice spire
Replace ap with ut and same
near valley
sleep is for the guiltless
balmy condor
Isn’t Wednesday your early day
It is not
near valley
Am i losing my mind
always have been
spice spire
True
gray crest
Am i losing my mind
hes just gaslighting you
balmy condor
Am i losing my mind
Wednesday Friday Saturday at 5, Sunday at 2
minor gate
Sees class tuning patch notes in news channel
Opens sin channel
Sees slowmode
Closes discord
storm belfry
did they buff the other specs?
echo heath
Guys we got an eviscerate buff in pvp though
runic hinge
I wish slow mode would get buffed
versed mica
viscid spear
WHat's this 'we' stuff? I play a Mage.
ebon notch
WHat's this 'we' stuff? I play a Mage.
you just got nerfed bud
viscid spear
you just got nerfed bud
After getting buffed all season
fleet whale
Buffs or not, I wish Sin would move away from the current whack-a-mole playstyle
versed mica
Isnt that technically every rogue spec?
spice spire
Wednesday Friday Saturday at 5, Sunday at 2
I’m with roujin here. I think you’re tryna girlboss me, king
fleet whale
It probably is like every rogue spec. Too many short cds, with a majority of them being not particularly exciting to press
vapid sierra
balmy condor
I’m with roujin here. I think you’re tryna girlboss me, king <a:insanecat:109397...
????
spice spire
?????
spice spire
Ur always on the grustle tho