assassination

[royal lantern]

you can go full st in your raid?

[steel ridge]

the only boss i didnt prog as sin was rasz and council, even tho i played sin on council after they introduced ap

[royal lantern]

oh wait, you mean as assa

i thought the full st build of sub lol

without powder etc....

[steel ridge]

well sub changes only the point in powder afaik

and only for terros 😄

[royal lantern]

ye, full st is with first dance

and the normal raid setup is just taking the first dance point, and puts it into powder

[steel ridge]

i like to take the shadow focus point and put it in powder, TFD is bae

sim loss, but plays nicer

[royal lantern]

legit dont know why people say that, feel no difference there lol

evisc>strike or strike>evisc doesnt really feel different for me

yes, i know, energy

[steel ridge]

except you go gloom, evis, strike, st

easy stacks, you dont have to watch anything and can just muscle memory everything without thinking about it 😄

[pseudo hamlet]

Wait! Echoing Thunder Stone > Freezing Ice Stone in ST?

[balmy condor]

[serene fossil]

[olive steeple]

Hey
I just returned, I'm in full blue + crimson glad shiv and I'm doing terrible damage in solo Q against people in full 424 gear.
Is the gear crippling me or has assassination been nerfed to shit?
I also see 0 rogues in solo Q

[steel ridge]

both

[olive steeple]

ty 😦

[steel ridge]

13 ilvl is alot of power and assassination has been nerfed like 13 times in pvp, deathmark only does 50% of the damage it does in PvE which is ridiculous 😄

for a CD thats dispellable

[balmy condor]

#pvp

[olive steeple]

argh thats horrible to hear

[steel ridge]

if you want to reroll, theres a bot in #off-topic that can decide a new main for you

[olive steeple]

I just leveled a hunter so maybe I'm better off with that

[steel ridge]

maybe, i heard warlock gets alot of buffs usually aswell

[olive steeple]

thanks for the advice, appreciate it!

[steel ridge]

i cannot think of anything more tedious than waiting 15-30 minutes for a game of soloshuffle (as dps), healers atleast get instant invites

[olive steeple]

instant invites would be godly

[steel ridge]

yeah its nice, you can get stomped by paladins in much higher frequency

[slim hamlet]

Oh no

Notes coming today?

[spice spire]

Our notes

[uncut echo]

We dont need notes if we're the best spec in the game

Ball out kings

[steel ridge]

speculation speculation speculation

[pseudo hamlet]

No way they are not preparing something bigger.

They wouldn't buff 2 specs slightly above(Assa last, unholy and balance like second and third from the bottom ) and don't do anything with Assa

[fringe spear]

Cope

[uncut echo]

I mean it isn't cope

[fringe spear]

Fortunately for u tho feral getting nerfed in 10.1 so u have a friend

[pseudo hamlet]

Me with the feral on the bottom logs having fun together instead of caring about meta:

https://tenor.com/view/cuddles-snuggles-violently-snuggles-sweet-pet-gif-16100052

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Anyway, have the message to que up slow mode. Just to be safe :3

[royal lantern]

:3

[fringe spear]

keep yourself safe (unironically)

[spice spire]

I refuse

[fringe spear]

gm

[shrewd night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1037699272012988486/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

Cat wants to know why he getting nerfed

[spice spire]

Gm homie, hope you’ve a glorious day

[spice spire]

Meownar 🤝 Makeitquake on the meters next tier

[royal lantern]

it was in the way of birdbrainans to long

[shrewd night]

Im safe though

Made the gm promise I never go owl, and Ive got it screenshotted

[royal lantern]

hi safe though

[spice spire]

Bless up

Meownar going healer next tier

[shrewd night]

[fringe spear]

True

[spice spire]

How’s one guild gonna have 2 SBs but no rogues

[shrewd night]

We just built diffy

[spice spire]

Rogue adjacent classes

[shrewd night]

Not playing outlaw in 10.1
Koffing 🤝 Bon-Qless

[uncut echo]

What do you play rn shien?

[shrewd night]

Cat

[uncut echo]

I know bonk is warrior

Nice

[shrewd night]

Oh rn?

Rogue

[uncut echo]

Off rogue next tier?

[spice spire]

Return of enhancement when

Or has CN scarred forever?

[shrewd night]

Zapnar would be a good option if enhance didnt bloat its button amount by a fuckton since then

[uncut echo]

I'm going arms next tier

🤝

Half my own decision

[shrewd night]

"Historically low rogue population. We dont know how it happened, Blizzard spokesperson says in interview."

[uncut echo]

So true

[spice spire]

Even I’m potentially off next tier

[uncut echo]

Off rogue or off wow

Both acceptable

I'm keeping my rogue up to farm mogs

[fringe spear]

Off raid spot

[shrewd night]

Quake would never quit on the homies

[spice spire]

Rogue

[shrewd night]

Im keeping rogue up on the behest of the gm

[uncut echo]

If I lost my key partner I'd sob

[spice spire]

I did it for a decade man

[uncut echo]

Quite literally same

I trialed on rogue, but warr is a bit of a pinch spot for them

[spice spire]

I was infinitely more cracked then too

Shittier set up

[uncut echo]

So if I'm an absolute fish out of water they'll slot me back in rogue and figure it out

[uncut echo]

You're cracked now tho?

[spice spire]

Nah I’m talking like, heroic raiding via laptop and trackpad type cracked

[uncut echo]

LMAOOOO

Quack

[spice spire]

When heroic was the top tier. I quit before my prime man

Spent that time acquiring bitches (getting a job I enjoyed and finding the love of my life)

But Covid brought me back so here we are

Anyway, no askers etc

[steel ridge]

same ;D covid in april 2020 got me hooked again

[spice spire]

Yeah same. I legit couldn’t do shit I was doing weekly so had to find a new way to spend my time that brought me enjoyment. Thought about what I did before. Tried wow again, here we are

[shrewd night]

Laptop gaming

Those are some memories man

[spice spire]

They ain’t all good

Remember the first time I explained how I played to someone, they called me a GIGA gamer but then begged I get a mouse

[shrewd night]

It all makes sense now

Quake is Autoattakk

[royal lantern]

wait

so we all witnessed the autoattakk redemtpion arc in realtime?

[shrewd night]

Ye, fr fr

[spice spire]

Listen man

2012(3?) was a long time ago

[shrewd night]

@cerulean walrus was like 11 back then

[spice spire]

Don’t remind me man

I was in college

Playing Edward 40 hands at an officers’ house, then raiding some vaults

Twin emperor prog to be exact

[thorn fjord]

Gm

[thorn fjord]

Did you use Mickeys or OE?

[spice spire]

The goal was OE. Only 40s that were local were bud light

I also had a heavy meal before hand

So I projectile vomited about 70 oz in

Also gm

[thorn fjord]

Oof Bud must have been rough

We used to shotgun 211's tho

So yeah the stupid shit we did in our early 20's LOL

[shrewd night]

Ye, in 1980 shit was rough I reckon

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[burnt latch]

Quake is the nicest guy pushing 50 i know

[royal lantern]

only 2 options when you turn 50

nice guy

racist

no other way

[spice spire]

Bruv

I literally just left my 20s man

[shrewd night]

Keep telling yourself that grandpa

[shrewd night]

"You cant put more than five candles on the cake, Margaret, I dont have lung capacity to blow them all out "

[cerulean walrus]

12 thank you

[ember mural]

Soccer memes?

[royal lantern]

its called football

you NA brain

[cerulean walrus]

I’ll foot your ball

[royal lantern]

yes pls

[cerulean walrus]

[shrewd night]

Balls:

[royal lantern]

whisp allready took them

[verbal mantle]

tryna see em

bro code #396

[hallow token]

Is it just me or to the Onyx Annulet stone procs seem pretty swingy? Has anyone seen an average proc rate, like 1/minute or something?

Maybe that isn't how it works. I just am stuck on how the old Combat spec sword procs worked and don't know about the ring procs much at all.

Anyway it seems swingy and unreliable and I have mixed feelings about it.

[thorn fjord]

@gray crest You're gonna hate me

My DK got ring

[gusty mirage]

Wrong guy

[spice spire]

Mfs be tagging the wrong quake

Now the wrong @gray crest

[thorn fjord]

Man im having a really hard time this morning

[oak tangle]

i don't know whether to be happy or sad about a 421 signet of melandrus

[gray crest]

Well I didn't get it from my vault

Hopefully raid

I'm taking the 424 spiteful storm though

[thorn fjord]

Thats pog

nice

[hallow sonnet]

Since we're able to upgrade our crafted items next patch. I wonder if there's a good idea to take sockets for crafted slots and upgrade them next patch, if the sockets will remain

[spice spire]

Sad since it’s been taken over

[oak tangle]

but I also dont have a seal of diurna, so it hasn't (yet)

[thorn fjord]

This does sound like a great idea but i feel like Blizz might take a shit on that

[spice spire]

It could be. Not much we craft with a socket for use. Belt I guess?

[oak tangle]

cowl has one

[thorn fjord]

Helm too

[hallow sonnet]

Belt, bracers, cowl

At least early on

[thorn fjord]

Yeah that would be nice

4 weeks 4 sockets if you dont need any gear

[oak tangle]

just need to get your hands on bottled essences

[hallow sonnet]

I have 8 bottled essences in my inventory :p

[thorn fjord]

Jesus

[hallow sonnet]

After using like 6

[thorn fjord]

you got the hot hands

I've only gotten 1 after the 5

[oak tangle]

that rng is borderline offensive

[hallow sonnet]

Maybe like 5 days per week I do the lap around the rares and kill the ones that have spawned. Get about an essence per week there

Raid I've got like 1 or 2. M+ maybe 4

Most are from rares and then treasures or caches

[spice spire]

I don’t do rares, so won’t compare that diff

But I’ve gotten a total of 0

[thorn fjord]

You gotta play the game to get em Quake

[spice spire]

I did keys last week

[vestal wren]

would play well with lariat i assume

[hallow sonnet]

Also, currently on PTR. Crafted gets converted to 421 from 418

[spice spire]

That specifically gets a thing that you can buy to put in to give it sockets

[hallow sonnet]

Lariat scales with amount of gems now

[vestal wren]

^

[hallow sonnet]

The duration

As a nerf

[uncut echo]

Ye, it's gonna be bad until later in season

[thorn fjord]

Yeah till you have full sockets

So if we're able to socket prior how Ros is saying that should really help in the long run

Atleast on crafted gear obv

[hallow sonnet]

Also - Disclaimer: Speculation. But not wildly inconceivable

[uncut echo]

Not its not far off tbh

[thorn fjord]

Oh for sure

It would be really nice QOL thing if they let us do that

[uncut echo]

Dieslow

Whats in my vault

Warrior is 3 20 slots 1 mythic slot

[thorn fjord]

hmm

How many mythic slots?

[uncut echo]

Rogue is 3 mythic slots 1 20 slot

[thorn fjord]

424 storm

LETS SEE IT

[uncut echo]

Do I want 424 storm?

Or 421 icon?

👀

[thorn fjord]

oof

damn nice i got you a storm

[gusty mirage]

@thorn fjord ez otter mount

[thorn fjord]

Prob the storm

[gusty mirage]

the real end game of wow

mount collecting

[thorn fjord]

I got my DF dungeon hero snail on sunday

lol

[gusty mirage]

I logged on for raid

[uncut echo]

Hi oxi

[gusty mirage]

and logged off

hello

[uncut echo]

Have a great day

[gusty mirage]

ty you too

[nocturne lagoon]

Hi oxi, I hope you get the biggest essence mob in your maps !

[storm belfry]

I hope i get a M grief this week

surely first kill i get it

[gusty mirage]

its okay big dude

you missed it

[thorn fjord]

got one in my box the week after our prog kill

[gusty mirage]

snagged a new shield for 55c

that was a 2mil dps upgrade

only downside is I actually have to do the crucibles now

[echo heath]

Pray it doesn't brick your weapon

But also come show us if it does

[oak tangle]

i want to skip to a working saboteur CoC something build, but without the whole levelling and farming money to pay for it. so i haven't started the league

[spice spire]

TIL my feral Druid has 40 more mounts than jez

AMA

[hallow sonnet]

Well, you can go to the crucible. Open the crucible tree and use a scour to remove the node if it's negative for you

[strange python]

I need terros neck and am not on terros for farm 😦

Also a purple casually interacting in sin. Sign of the end times?

[hallow sonnet]

Make 10 LFR alts

[unreal bear]

watching @gaunt moat try to provide context to clueless people on wowhead comments gives me life

[strange python]

There's plenty of clueless people here to help too 🤡

[thorn fjord]

Ayo

[royal lantern]

whats up?

[thorn fjord]

We actually got some dooming in the general channel

[unreal bear]

yeah but no one here looks at warcraftlogs "damage done to bosses" and goes "assa is good"

[thorn fjord]

Sinners are maturing!!!!

[storm belfry]

[strange python]

When tryan isn't even who I was talking about we've got dark times

[strange python]

Wait people do that here plenty

[unreal bear]

do they really

[gaunt moat]

bro i'm losing my mind

[brazen zodiac]

oh yes

[royal lantern]

hey, im not a smart person, but im not THAT stupid when its about wow

[unreal bear]

UH ACTUALLY YOU DONT KNOW SHIT

[thorn fjord]

lol

[unreal bear]

if boss doesnt die then raid wipes, idiot!

[hallow sonnet]

Just popped in to release secret 10.1 gearing strats

[spice spire]

Alright boys

Wowhead comments in this holy of channels

[strange python]

Waiting for my vindication on third evoker spec

I thought reddit was the domain of rosvall tho 😮

[gaunt moat]

They try to tell me assassination is one of the best ST specs in the game right now.
And explain to me why sin should have god awful AoE because of it's insane ST and multiple dps spec.
meanwhile destro lock exists.

[royal lantern]

"buff warlock" ~wowhead comments, every patch since DF is out, 2023 colored

[unreal bear]

"part of assassination's kit is that you can switch spec to subtlety"

[hallow sonnet]

I swing both ways

[royal lantern]

"wow, why nerf hunters, they are so bad allready" ~wowhead comments

[gusty mirage]

true

they should buff bm hunter again

[strange python]

Idk how you can post there without going crazy. Their "nerf rogues fuck rogues" shit is infuriating.

[brazen zodiac]

they should nerf oxi

too op

[gusty mirage]

oh yeah

I'm so OP

[royal lantern]

now imagine oxi with a bow

[hallow sonnet]

You get decent at mental filtering after being involved in community stuff for decades :)

[gusty mirage]

SOON

wait

wrong game

[spice spire]

Bro

[gaunt moat]

That's the one thing that pissed me the most.
dumbest thing i heard all day

[spice spire]

Ice shot. LOGIN

[gusty mirage]

dogshit ability

I seem to like bad things

ice shot

[gaunt moat]

the other one was:

[gusty mirage]

assassination rogue

unfortunate

[gaunt moat]

You have no idea what you are talking about. The adds will die, that's a given, even with just using some minor cleave damage, adds will die. If the boss isn't getting enough damage they won't die, but your group will.
adds damage not important.
so you can just bring all ST specs 🙂

[hallow sonnet]

Well those two things have something in common - They can complete all content in the hands of a decent player

[royal lantern]

my main in destiny is a hunter, the class that was dogshit for 60% of the Games lifetime

tell me about it

[royal lantern]

thats Peak LFR raider PoV

[spice spire]

What boss actually has a boss damage check now?

[gaunt moat]

he ended this comment with:
Anyone who thinks AOE is more important in raiding probably doesn't even raid, ST is far more important than overall damage.

[grim jay]

I mean, if we arent top dps, just downgrade guilds until you are top dps

ez

[brazen zodiac]

oxi

[hallow sonnet]

I mean that's MDI mindset as well. As long as you can survive, then progressing the dungeon is the most important.

[brazen zodiac]

need to phase at 69%

otherwise discord gets deleted

[thorn fjord]

Why do you do this to yourself lolol

[hallow sonnet]

So no need to AoE things, when residual damage would finish them off

Not a good progress mindset, ofc. Then it's all about identifying what is preventing you from consistent progress and focus on improving there. Which might very well be clearing adds, but it can also be focusing on reducing the encounter length at the cost of killing adds

[gaunt moat]

I dunno man, the people on wowhead comments are actually insane.

[hallow sonnet]

Perhaps from our PoV. But if one tries to see what made them reason in the insane way, then it's easier to find common ground to push them towards enlightenment

[strange python]

Hey boys I’m doing a lot wrong I’m using welfare epics atm but I’m simming 15k+ what I’m doing st. On average I’m pulling even less then that https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gn6ywV3AvhZPq4bK#fight=9&type=damage-done&source=62

I haven’t played rogue since patch 2 shadowlands but didn’t think the rotation would of been insanely different to do that much worse

[grim tangle]

man who posts wowhead comments: wowhead comments are insane!

I agree tbh

[gaunt moat]

I do realize where they're coming from. but it's usually just being uninformed.
for example, claiming sin is one of the best ST specs. and better then the other specs.

they don't take into account that other specs don't go pure ST for a lot of fights. and some fights like dathea and brood skew it completly.
they don't look at terros's stats.
They don't know about the situation in PTR where outlaw's ST is the best due to the set bonus.

What they do know, is that assassination is a ST focused spec. allegedly.

[vestal wren]

you can compare the 3 rogue specs

[storm belfry]

Isn’t OL playing like green skins or whatever it’s called next tier

Assuming no changes

[vestal wren]

and all 3 fall short at one specific thing

[royal lantern]

cut the cleave part on assa rn lol

just because it has better cleave than sub, doesnt mean it has good cleave

[gaunt moat]

i would also cut ST from both sin and sub

[gusty mirage]

assassination cleave is awful

[vestal wren]

sin

[storm forum]

this was all i could think of while reading this

[vestal wren]

outlaw

sub

two target is quite a bit off for sub

3 targets is close for all 3

[gusty mirage]

this is a bit more accurate

[vestal wren]

problem is that talents change

so not rly that good at representing mixed fights

[brazen zodiac]

let me fix for you

[spice spire]

Real

[hallow sonnet]

What do you mean?

[gaunt moat]

i wish i could post pictures on wowhead

[hallow sonnet]

That's part of the consideration before an encounter

[vestal wren]

outlaw has low changes in talents between single target, cleave and aoe

assassination and sub has more changes

basically looking at one specific thing like two target sustained cleave

[gusty mirage]

I loved giving up 3.5% dps for a 2nd step charge

it was very cool

thanks blizzard

[vestal wren]

does not mean you will have this cleave by default

[hallow sonnet]

Sure. But that's similar to f.ex burn phases imo

[vestal wren]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[vestal wren]

giving up step def. is not great

[hallow sonnet]

Key is identifying what part of the fight is critical and setting up your raiders

according to that

[storm forum]

.... whispyr how much damage are we giving up by taking 2x shadowstep and iron wire?

and sprint CD

and long arms

and gouge

[vestal wren]

i think assassination can get step comfortably

[storm forum]

not that much, got it

[oak sky]

Long arms gouge and sprint cd you give up 0

Iron wire you give a little bit

Step is along the path to the bleed talents so its not a loss to take either

Its just the opportunity cost of the bleed path having fewer raw damage nodes than the poison nodes down the middle

[storm forum]

👍

[pseudo hamlet]

I participated in that cursed discussion

[gaunt moat]

צדיק בסדום

You helped me with the mental damage overload

I'm losing it man.

[sand escarp]

nightmare

[winged veldt]

Whoever is writing that needs to be castrated so they don’t reproduce

[sand escarp]

I'm coming back from like 6 years not playing rogue and it seems it is an interesting time period

[spice spire]

It’s self inflicted at this point

[sweet dawn]

Just wait til the patch notes come out later

[sand escarp]

🥹

[thorn fjord]

They're trolling you

get rekt nerd

[gaunt moat]

I'd be so happy if that was the case

[thorn fjord]

That shit dont even logically make sense

Why would Damage to boss also include add damage

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[spice spire]

Just move on, it’s okay.

Save the mental

[frigid kestrel]

Dudes a next level log reader

Super smart shit

[sand escarp]

wowhead super genius

[thorn fjord]

My burger didnt have enough fried cheese for my taste

[spice spire]

Delete this rn nephew

[deft flicker]

Sorry

[spice spire]

Don’t fuel the dooming

[thorn fjord]

You don’t like fried cheese?

[spice spire]

Hate it what can I say

[thorn fjord]

Oh man

COOKED

[rare jackal]

sin two target not looking too shabby

and yet i cant log on kurog to save my life

[vestal wren]

its a mixed fight

kind of the problem

[thorn fjord]

Parsing that fight is impossible change my mind

[rare jackal]

even compared to other sin rogues

[storm forum]

sin needs to heavily change talents to fit different fight profiles and it sucks

[rare jackal]

it really is

[vestal wren]

i think it just needs stronger single target to get a identity

atm the gap between sub/sin on pure single target is too low

(because it is non existent)

[thorn fjord]

There’s pretty much no gap at this point

[rare jackal]

"new class changes on 10.1 PTR"

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-food-fridge-sad-gif-16804654

[serene fossil]

What changes

[woeful pumice]

i wanted to play rogue next tier 😦

[uncut echo]

You still can!

It's still very good

[silk bane]

have u guys played around with the class trinket onptr yet?

[spice spire]

I’ve not

[silk bane]

it seems like weapon poisons are enough to trigger it, and extra dots dont trigger it any more often vs jsut having instant poison on 1 target

[spice spire]

Big if true

[silk bane]

i ran around dotting all the dummies in SW and had roughly similar uptime vs just autoing 1 dummy is my reason 😄

[storm forum]

I can't wait until I play the class trinket and the toxic crit potion and just die when the healers have had enough of my bullshit

[silk bane]

it does like 58k over 12 seconds at 415 not that bad

then we also get the phial of corrupting rage

so our healers get to parse!

200 IQ move

then we collect gold for their parses

[storm forum]

🤔

[civic osprey]

Hello, do You have any usefull macros for Assa?

[nimble light]

Hey guys. I didn't get to play much in the first season of DragonFlight and was speced as Outlaw for most of that. I was going to start playing a bit more again in 10.1 and was wondering if it would be better picking up Assa for mainly raiding and world content? (Maybe a few low keys too.)

[wide ridge]

i'd say outlaw is better for low keys since shit die too fast to sin to pump

you're finishing spreading dots and things die

[serene fossil]

Play whats fun for you, dont get forced into one single spec

[nimble light]

True. Though I don't do too many keys. Mainly just raiding and WC.

[serene fossil]

For low-ish keys without too much regear hassle sub is super easy& does big pp aoe if stuff doesnt live long enough, raiding is whatever u like most at this point, world content is always pick what you like, its whatever

[wide ridge]

just play whatever you find the most fun tbh

im dreading 10.1 having to play gs+kir

as outlaw

yuck

[nimble light]

I have played Assa for most of the time I've had my rogue. I ended up trying Outlaw at the end of the last expansion and it was pretty fun but I struggled to do well with it this time

[serene fossil]

But if you only like sin just do it for everything, you wont be mad about it

[true basalt]

Sin feels the best tbh

[nimble light]

I'll see if I can farm up some daggers and give it a go 🙂

[wide ridge]

@blizzard delete spiteful please

i feel like i dont get shit on when my tank chain pulls or spiteful doesnt let me restealth as outlaw

[true basalt]

Spiteful - free energy

But yeah

Cant stealth

[wide ridge]

but i remember it being a pain in the ass as sin

[sweet dawn]

ation?

[wary ice]

begging for a nerf at this point just to feel something 😦

[deft flicker]

This is a bad idea

[wary ice]

my crystal ball says Assa will get a 2% aura buff week before release date and every non-rogue going to complain about how rogue is blizzards favorite spec again

[peak bobcat]

Rogue is blizzards favorite

Favorite class to ignore

[uncut echo]

Stonks trinket

y'all need to chill lmao

Rogue's fine :3

[limber lion]

I'm glad I don't play the game anymore, I would honestly be pretty sad after all this time without a single change

[wary ice]

just lie to me

[woeful pumice]

rogue has balance and playstyle challenges that make it a difficult class to commit to with real raiding aspirations, feels reasonable people are sad

i wanted to rogue next tier but ill be staying dh sadly

[minor gate]

Time to

https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-lemme-zoom-in-on-that-zoom-watching-you-spy-gif-5212510

Enhance

The shaman

[hollow dirge]

I mean, you sound sad anyway

[limber lion]

I mean I don't care at all because it doesn't consider me whatsoever

[hollow dirge]

That’s good. Enjoy!

[polar shale]

am i meant to be saving animacharges for shiv windows? >_<

[thorn fjord]

Nah

If your cp lands on a charge send it

[polar shale]

how come? isn't sending a envenom outside shiv window always worse than sending it inside shiv window? i feel like im missing some secrets here

[thorn fjord]

You don’t play around shiv

You send it on cd

[silk bane]

oh no ptrs down for maintenance im scared. pls no slow mode. lemme cook stahp the quake tyranny

[thorn fjord]

It’s been mellow in here today

We’re vibing

[silk bane]

true true

back to ptr trinket testing!

the beacon to the beond thingy can do like up to 3 million damage if u hit 5 targes split ebtween all enemies. on mythic quality

[spice spire]

Too late

Im ready for it

[silk bane]

no hm for u

[spice spire]

[silk bane]

no more gm for u

get outa here u tyrant

[spice spire]

[silk bane]

the anvil trinket at 5 stacks does around 130 k shadowflame damage (doesnt seemt to crit, but gets value from sub rogues shadow amplifiers and vers)

ive seen it proc like 4 times a minute too

[burnt latch]

@spice spire did u say slow mode?

Shall i cook

[spice spire]

Not yet

Pls no

Literally no changes anywhere yet

[burnt latch]

Got the punch lines ready to go

[steel ridge]

[velvet ridge]

oh boy! new weekly build, whats gonna be in the box for us this time!

[gusty mirage]

I will delete this fucking channel

[silk bane]

u cant stop it quake. it is inevitable. come join me. I got popcorn :3

[steel ridge]

Its going to be a big chunk of the nothing burger

[balmy condor]

Did you know discord allows slowmodes of 6 hours

[uncut echo]

Please, god 6 hour slow mode

[silk bane]

all this time I thought quake was the tyrant. but Whispyr was hiding in the shadows. smh

[hollow river]

[sonic schooner]

6 hours slowmode sounds great

[strange python]

Didn't the wowhead post say that ptr is down for maintenance and not for a new build?

[uncut echo]

yeah but like, why rear

[silk bane]

doesnt mater! i got my popcorn ready! im excited!

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[steel ridge]

It also said they are working on a new weekly build, whatever the hell that may be

[wind condor]

Has anyone done much research into 10.1 dungeon trinkits? Need to mentally prepare myself for having to be in key hell like I was for puzzle box

I’m assuming dice from FH gonna be giga like it was back then

[steel ridge]

Dice probably

Fragment maybe

[gusty mirage]

fragment seemed underwhelming

[silk bane]

fragments kinda mid imo.

[steel ridge]

boon will stay relevant i guess

[silk bane]

so like the open the gate trinket thingy hits sooooooo hard it can replace boon imo

[steel ridge]

isnt that just a new whetstone?

with a cast time yikes

[silk bane]

its a 2 sec cast and the lfr version does like 900k damgage to 5 targets, each hit can crit and goes up with verse too

andd like rvery piece next tier has vers o it

[dull cloak]

what's happening, what are we dooming about today

[silk bane]

we're not

were coping about ptr trrinkets instead

[strange python]

Spriest rework is the safest bet

[gaunt moat]

Let me save you the dissapointment in advance.
There won't be rogue changes.
There might be set bonus changes.

[storm belfry]

man i just did a key as OL and i felt so cluttered

[royal lantern]

why is there no slowmode?

[runic hinge]

Everyone should have to mute roulette before they can post and then we don’t need slow mode

[thorn fjord]

Not a bad idea

[strange python]

There's no one here left

[balmy condor]

They’re pre-gaming their dooming

Ptr went offline, which means it’s time to doom, but there’s no patchnotes that would let them doom, so they’re dooming in advance

[spice spire]

They’re trying to save money so they can already be dooming when they get to the patch notes

[sweet dawn]

People be dooming on patch notes that don't exist yet

[spice spire]

Fellas out here

[burnt latch]

Hooooly did u guys check the notes

They really were cooking

🔥🔥🔥

[spice spire]

Warcieft buddy

I hate how much I love you

[gray crest]

quake is a hateful man

[burnt latch]

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[woeful meteor]

that ic is the worst change I have read in my life

idk who cooked that up for april first

[gray crest]

I think its fine, it just shouldnt be a capstone imo

[woeful meteor]

current version yes the "very real" patch version no

storm powder but worse

[spice spire]

Okay

Can we not do the fake patch notes

Mfs already tweaking

Please no fuel fire

[eager solstice]

Looks legit no?

[woeful meteor]

it isnt

[compact wing]

Who screamed fire?!?

[spice spire]

It was very much not

And this is why we don’t do it

[eager solstice]

High level trolling then

[spice spire]

Hating is free

[burnt latch]

[sweet dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[oak sky]

🔥

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-shit-a-rat-dance-oh-shit-a-rat-oh-shit-a-rat-gif-14187081

[royal lantern]

its called efficency

[silk bane]

i got gpt4 to already make me 3 GB of top tier doom material. U dont even know efficiency

[storm forum]

oh man I'm early for dooming lets go

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/tonight-doom-gif-19873326

[echo heath]

I'm just here to observe the doom orgy and not actually partake in it

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-logo-doom-video-game-logo-gif-14624225

[gray crest]

I believe the correct terminology is cooming

[royal lantern]

not many people know it, but the game is called "Doom Eternal" because the main dev lurks in #assassination all the time

[burnt latch]

Blizzard extended the server maintenance to make sure they catch EU sleeping and US tired with the patch notes

Sending a full pvp oriented class changes post and two m+ affix changes

[silk bane]

I HAVE TRAINED FOR THIS

[balmy condor]

@ember mural pov

[ember mural]

[gray crest]

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor how do you like the calm phase before the storm

[oak sky]

why would there be a storm

there will be good and thoughtful talent and tuning changes

[burnt latch]

What storm are u guys talking about? I thought raszageth trinkets not that good..

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peppo-gif-22663665

[thorn fjord]

It’s bis for sub

[burnt latch]

Impossible

[drifting cloud]

it is silly herbie look at pins every once in a while!!

[gaunt moat]

The storm of doomers doomers.

[subtle tundra]

its 3:26 am and no patchies

[drifting cloud]

fake romanian timezone

[silk bane]

can u guys ping me when its doom time? i got raid in a minute

[serene fossil]

Isnt it always doom time?

[strange python]

It's 545 pm.

[oak sky]

Think its probably tomorrow tbh they said it might be

[subtle tundra]

It's sleepy time

[slow marsh]

I kind of came back and then unsubbed again. Fun times

oops i'm sorry i forgot to turn off the ping

[drifting cosmos]

will be back for doom memes

But yea, afk 10.1 is looking more and more attractive

[storm belfry]

I’m just vibing

[limber lion]

Lol no worries you're good

[slow needle]

Yo Whispyr. Instead of a 6 hour slow mode make it so every post here automatically triggers a mute roulette.

[slow marsh]

I forgot EU time is late rn. But yeah I agree with your sentiment. I keep wnating to play again but it just doesn't seem very worth making the time for

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

reroll

[slow marsh]

I tried

It just made me sad

[drifting cosmos]

come back 13.0 we will be S tier

[storm belfry]

I’m rerolling to rogue. I must be delusional

[grim tangle]

the only thing that matters is having fun

[storm forum]

Fellow delusional friends

[storm belfry]

Wise words

[storm forum]

jk im playing healer next tier

[storm belfry]

Oh I see we have traded places

Good luck

[storm forum]

thanks you too 🫡

[storm belfry]

Ty

[ebon notch]

That's why I'm playing DH and ret

[hallow token]

I don't get why anyone who doesn't play assassination would even be in here.

[brazen zodiac]

DH so fun

gonna loot at ret in a few days, just got it fresh to 70 pogg

[ebon notch]

I've played more assa than you have bud

[ebon notch]

Yeah it's a nice change of pace

[runic hinge]

Who do I in-game mail about how to play then?!

[storm forum]

i mean

i'll still be around

i love sin rogue, its going to be my main alt

[brazen zodiac]

i am for sure playing it wrong but i like dashing around 24/7 :D

[gusty mirage]

just get quake to ping me

[hexed flicker]

All the more reason to not play Rogue. Their rotations are way too obnoxious to do so little dps.

[brazen zodiac]

it dont matter in those 13s 💃

[gusty mirage]

and I'll flip a coin

and mute people

[ebon notch]

It is a vibe

It has surprisingly tight windows in its rotation

I wasn't expecting it

[brazen zodiac]

yeah i the essence stuff is crazy

[hexed flicker]

Havoc's momentum build is there if you want to be rewarded for pulling off a tricky rotation.

[drifting cosmos]

Yea fk momentum

I like no brainer dh more

[brazen zodiac]

@gusty mirage c:

[grim tangle]

sin rogue rotation is super easy though?

[hexed flicker]

And it's outshined by specs with half the complexity to them. Is it really worth suffering through it to do worse than you would just switching to DH or Warrior?

That's all I'm saying. It doesn't seem very fun to do well and still suffer for it because of poor tuning.

[burnt latch]

Its starting again

weeee my spec isnt top on terros fucking blizzard

[hexed flicker]

Look, fair enough. I know it's been discussed to death.

[oak tangle]

https://raider.io/news/493-break-the-meta-returns-for-dragonflight-season-1#specs

let's go sin keys bois

[ebon notch]

Skill issue

[burnt latch]

Agree

[gusty mirage]

have you tried being better?

[burnt latch]

Requires skill

Cant do

[gusty mirage]

have you tried kissing me?

checkmate young herbert

[oak sky]

we had no dh for half the raid

[ebon notch]

[sick aspen]

Oxi gettin his Dalai on

[oak tangle]

happy boi

[gusty mirage]

bald

[oak sky]

this is so me

[ebon notch]

Mald

[balmy condor]

we haven't seen a mythic boon once

[gusty mirage]

you have like 18 424 daggers

don't care

[brazen zodiac]

POG

lets do a key together

booning w/ friends

[gray crest]

@thorn fjord no ring this week

I passed my trial tho

[thorn fjord]

Silver linings

[gray crest]

I raided a total of 4days

2 clears

[thorn fjord]

we're at 270

[gray crest]

And I felt like I played like shit

[storm forum]

how much longer until the next tier?

[thorn fjord]

3 weeks

[storm forum]

oh damn

wtf

[thorn fjord]

well; 4

[storm forum]

is that 2 or 3 more weeks for CE?

[oak sky]

at least until may 2

[storm forum]

3 then

[true basalt]

oh yeah

[oak tangle]

CE is by may 2, season 2 is may 9

[drifting cloud]

ce is also 9th

[brazen zodiac]

:o

[hexed flicker]

Genuine question where do you find a window to risk using that? What if something happens in that 10 seconds like you get a mechanic on you?

[gusty mirage]

no clue my dude

I've legit never used it

[tacit otter]

you typically use Shadowstep or cloak to be save from most mechanics

[gusty mirage]

I actually rolled on it as off spec with the note "only if no one else wants it I'll mess around with it in keys"

[hexed flicker]

Just seems like too risky a move in the high pace modern game

[tacit otter]

it is, but the payoff you get is really good

[drifting cloud]

its not, the trinket is super bis in keys

[brazen zodiac]

it takes a lot of hours of going around in heroic and seeing which abilities i can avoid with with cloak/evasion

if ur brain dead like me c:

its so fun

i usually focus target a teammate to shadowstep to them in case i run of of cloak/evasion

playing with it on the second boss of RLP is a whole different game 💃

[brazen zodiac]

:O

[shrewd night]

!bos

[prisma monolith]

Thanks to DynamicNigel for putting in the work for the book when everyone else abandoned it. View the current version here: https://tinyurl.com/57cnaezn

[shrewd night]

No need to spend hours when someone has already done it for you

[arctic current]

is it worth using tea before shiv for mastery buff even if your already high energy?

[oak tangle]

do the engineering bracers allow you to put a socket on them?

do the tinker embelishments count as embelishments?

nah the "safety components"

which one is the best one? the no longer critical malfunction?

sweet, ty

[pale knot]

Anyone seen any sims on the new trinkets? Or is box still huge if you have it 421?

[balmy condor]

10.1 sims are shaky atm, initial thing is bomb dispenser is ridiculous, 421 box is keeping up though

like box+dispenser is about 2% off of bis

this thing is crazy though

[serene fossil]

Wdym “if you have traveled”?

“If you since it came off cd walked 15 yards” or what

[balmy condor]

it targets an enemy/area and then charges you

so you have to be 15 yards away

and then fly towards them

[serene fossil]

Oh wow

That seems nice

[balmy condor]

it's like copy paste shriekwing trinket from nathria

it's whatever

[rich vine]

Sounds like if you dont have 421 box you are loser...

[serene fossil]

I liked skulkers to prepull

Bc i macroed it into shit

[balmy condor]

if you're playing assassination you're a loser as well, so get fucked I guess

[rich vine]

[shrewd night]

Youre a loser if you dont have two

[balmy condor]

https://twitter.com/veryWicca/status/1644474346713530368?s=20

wicca (@veryWicca)

Bottoms are using this decoration to identify each other online. Please be aware that all accounts using this decoration on their PFP's are bottoms.

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[shrewd night]

[balmy condor]

@sudden brook you too I see you

[sudden brook]

Excuse me

[balmy condor]

excused

[shrewd night]

Its ok guy, whispyr just doesnt understand

[balmy condor]

you're right, I don't

I wear my cat ears like the alpha kitten of the litter

submissive isn't in my vocabulary

[gusty mirage]

[cerulean walrus]

Did he stutter?

[balmy condor]

I feel like I was pretty clear

[shrewd night]

I wish he was stuttering

[balmy condor]

w..wh...what?

[drifting cloud]

[limber walrus]

I thought you had to be falling, did it change?

[balmy condor]

I heard it did

but I didn't test it

so not sure

[limber walrus]

What about our class trinket, is it any good?

[balmy condor]

don't think they're implemented

[silk bane]

the class trinket is weird, like i tried as sub and went 1 min 40 sec without proccing it. its hard to get any meamingful value out of it unless youre outlaw

[royal lantern]

@uncut echo vault blessing pls

[slow tulip]

assa top spec next patch

[solemn oracle]

[steel ridge]

9 vault slots on 4 chars, 2 necks and 4 cloaks

[flint tusk]

boy oh boy. i love this vault system. bad luck prevention my left nut sack.

[subtle tundra]

lets see what i geeeet

i think i have bis on rogue

hehe

irony is

my first vault on rogue

i got whispering

first vault on hunter

i get whispering

[vestal wren]

well nice, gz

[subtle tundra]

just get lucky guys

its very easy

[steel ridge]

yeah right

how about we get lucky on patchnotes (today maybe)

cant be that hard

[oak tangle]

now that i got my seal finally i fully expect the patch notes to be announcing it's nerfed for next tier

[flint tusk]

So going into 10.1 do we have any idea on what prio we're going for with the new crafted upgrades?

I'm assuming if we have them do weapons first if you don't have 424 daggers from broodkeeper?

Or are we far too early to consider that given where sims are currently?

[royal lantern]

weapon will always be #1 by default

simply because of how gear in wow works

[flint tusk]

yeh that was my thinking.
just wasn't sure if there was some buggy crap with say cowl or lariet.

[winter gale]

On Rasza M I do not use CD’s on 1st platform?

I use on pull and then on 2 min mark, then on 1st shield break?

[steel ridge]

thats what i would do

[winter gale]

If anyone could assist me with this as I will tonight participate in a rekill. I just joined a guild and they killed the boss already last week so I will get boosted for p3.

[steel ridge]

deathmark isnt exactly very useful in intermission 1

[winter gale]

I progressed this fight before nerfs and now I dont know timings and whats optimal after these nerfs.

When used on 1st shield on p2…are the they back up for shield 3?

[steel ridge]

between shield 1 and 3 theres more than 2 minutes iirc

[winter gale]

Good

[steel ridge]

so you have deathmark ready for shield 3 again

[royal lantern]

there is roughly 1min bettwen shields, yes

[steel ridge]

i might go sin aswell for this weeks rekill attempt

intermission kinda is a joke and sub is probably not needed anymore

[thin gate]

guys is pvp dead in DF?

i just wanted to play a bit for tabard and illusion

in da ques theres like 10 ppl at max

[royal lantern]

pvp in wow is dead for 20years at this point

[spice surge]

Non solo shuffle arena is dead for sure

[thin gate]

i mean even shadowlands had more ppl in Q than DF, even tho almost every1 "hated" on it

is solo shuffle the reason huh?

[spice surge]

Solo shuffle is the reason why nobody goes into the groupfinder to find teammates yes, because why would you

[storm onyx]

Wow has been a solo game disguised as a mmorpg for so long.

[hollow river]

Yeah shuffle participation is much higher

[royal lantern]

i mean, if you play it as a solo game, thats your own problem lol

people guild hop like crazy and then say "no community wtf"

[winter gale]

For Raszageth p1 pushbacks 8 want to shadowstep 1st, Shadostep+Gate 2nd, doublestep 3rd and cloak last?

[uncut echo]

Second can just be gated

[woeful meteor]

That should work, I double step 1st, step gate 2nd, Cloak 3rd, double step 4th. But after all the pushback nerfs thats hard overkill

[uncut echo]

And 4th cloak is good

[winter gale]

Yeah

Is 3rd still a problem if doublestepping?

[uncut echo]

If tank doesnt spin right it is

[winter gale]

The thing where 2nd Step can push you opposite side

Yeah

And intermission 2, do I use CD’s on any of the big bois?

[woeful meteor]

no

[winter gale]

I will use my CDs on 3rd absorb shield and then inter2 will start. Dunno should I not use em and wait for us to go on p3

It will be aligned with lust

[woeful meteor]

there is nothing to use them in p2i

the adds already died to quickly pre nerf

[winter gale]

Good

[balmy condor]

Intermission adds are a hold dps angle

On both intermissions

Never use CDs there

[winter gale]

Yeah

I will then maybe just go Exsang

[balmy condor]

If you want to I guess

[winter gale]

Wanted to go w/o Exsang and play Icon so I have less to think about

[balmy condor]

Icon is bis

Exsang is completely avoidable on raz

Don’t need to run it if you don’t want

[winter gale]

And focus on not fuck up mechanically

Sry for the language 😂

If so then w/o Exsang and w Icon

[limber lion]

Fucking tone it down, will ya

[winter gale]

Its a rekill for ppl and I hate playing like that tbh

I must perform and not be a dead weight, haha

And stick to assa***

[balmy condor]

I mean icon is the best trinket you can use, and exsang vs imp poison is very close

So

You’re losing nothing

Idk why that’s an issue

[winter gale]

Will do so then

No issue, just wow logs have like 85% exsang and similar percentage for Grieftorch

[balmy condor]

Only deadweight thing you could do is play Assassination

[winter gale]

Hahaha

I will stick to this spec until they delete it

I love it

[rocky ruin]

we all love assa,
but love can't save the spec

[odd dew]

are we still in copium mode

[royal lantern]

anime arc inc

power of love&friendship

[odd dew]

PTR been off all day today, wonder if they have a big ptr patch coming

[steel ridge]

they said yesterday the maintenance might go all the way to afternoon today

[odd dew]

big ass rogue rework coming that delayed the maintenance?

[winter gale]

My abilities for sparks are kidney, cheap, kick and blind?

And AT as belf?

[odd dew]

I think you can Gouge it, if you spec into that

[winter gale]

Yes, gouge too

Do I need a macro if I feel confident w/o it?

[steel ridge]

always have been

[odd dew]

What difficulty are you doing?

[winter gale]

M

[odd dew]

I haven't done M so can't help with that sorry, for heroic I am comfortable with just tab targeting it, but it may be more difficult in M

[steel ridge]

usually other classes have way better aoe abilities for that, use your kick, AT and maybe blind for range if something is still alive

[winter gale]

Yeah, ill ignore macro and go with usual stuff

[steel ridge]

absolutely use the kick macro

you are majorly gimping yourself if you dont

[gray crest]

Yeah just use kick, AT if there's more than normal. I've only ever had to kidney a spark once

There is a spot right before 3rd shield in P2 I like to save AT for

[winter gale]

Ok

Ty both

Can I get the macro from anyone, just to check do I have the correct one?

[woeful meteor]

/tar boss1
/targetenemy
/focus
/tar player
/tar focus
/tar boss1
/targetlasttarget
/cast [harm,nodead] Kick
/tar boss1

[thorn fjord]

Gm boiz

3 sub 10% pulls last night during our last half hour

She dies tomorrow!!!!!

[burnt latch]

[thorn fjord]

3% our best pull

[burnt latch]

Thats really good dathea progress tbh

[thorn fjord]

I legit fell asleep for like 15 seconds during int 2

[burnt latch]

Should die by next raid

[uncut echo]

Fuck yeah dieslow

[violet jackal]

She died last night

[thorn fjord]

Talking raz

[uncut echo]

I got turbo carried 8/8M on my warrior last night

[burnt latch]

Not dathea?

[violet jackal]

So am I

[thorn fjord]

Grats panda!!!

[thorn fjord]

Nah we killed Dathea a while back

[burnt latch]

Damn im envious

[uncut echo]

Everything warcieft says is a bait

[burnt latch]

She is a ruff lady

[uncut echo]

You're only Herbie when you're a good boy

[thorn fjord]

Lol

[burnt latch]

[uncut echo]

And you're not being a good boy rn

[thorn fjord]

Looking forward to 3 weeks of single night raid

[burnt latch]

Im always good boy

[thorn fjord]

The best boi

[uncut echo]

Wanna see best boy?

That's best boy

[burnt latch]

[burnt latch]

THAT IS BEST BOY

[uncut echo]

[storm belfry]

[burnt latch]

im currently locked outside my apartment with my golden retriever

Went for a walk forgot keys

[thorn fjord]

That is a cute cute cute pupper

[burnt latch]

[thorn fjord]

Send the pupper in to get your keys

I saw that on tv once

[spice spire]

Just like u in game

Always forgetting keys with daps

[burnt latch]

Funny and true

Daps always in my dms asking for keys

[spice spire]

Damn

[uncut echo]

[spice spire]

@ebon notch catching strays

Unlucky

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dapsression

Someone change him

[spice spire]

I can change him

[rare jackal]

i can fix him

[echo heath]

Everyone post your dogs, make the devs feel bad for our dogs not us

[spice spire]

Roujin can’t

He’s got dat dawg in him

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Poop watcher

[brazen zodiac]

great pyrenees? ;o

[royal lantern]

he knows

[spice spire]

More like a great lukadeez

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its a chunky golden retriever

[royal lantern]

to many people in RH with cute dogs

cant play favorites

they all are perfect

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all doggos are perfect

[spice spire]

Realest warcieft moment

[brazen zodiac]

awe

[thorn fjord]

Brooo you have a corgi? I’m so jealous

[gray crest]

She's an adorable fucking gremlin

[thorn fjord]

We’re getting one this year

Corgi rescue up north

[gray crest]

I had another corgi when I was younger and I saw a Polaroid of her earlier

And I swear my current dog has much shorter legs than my old corgi

Like 2/3rds the length

[thorn fjord]

Little nubs

[uncut echo]

Linky is a short egg

[rocky ruin]

German shepard the other 50% we don't know

2 years old lived for 17 month with his 4 sibling in a small cage

[brazen zodiac]

:o

[spice spire]

I love him.