#assassination

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slow tulip
grim jay
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Dont forget the gimmicky condition if thunder sims higher

wary ice
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I haven't thought about the ring since they stopped updating the rocks

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Whatever in there is probably bis

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I'm sure I made the right choice

grim jay
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Boys finally good news from the ptr

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50% exp buff with the diablo event. kekdog

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50% kinda insane tho

scenic sky
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BTW shouldnt the 2nd be multi target instead of single target 🙂

wary ice
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I'm sure he'll see this and fix it 🙂

scenic sky
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That

hot fulcrum
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Sorry in case of stupid question (playing rogue for the first patch), but is there a way to get a proper damage details when fighting dummy target with vanish usage? I understand the logic that vanishing breaks the combat, but why it's still not fixed with dummy target in any city?

balmy condor
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because vanish drops combat and it's not blizzards problem to make sure third party addons can report two separate fights as one continuous fight

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there's a setting for it in details

royal lantern
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have a buddy that hits the smg dummy

balmy condor
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or just log the dummy, and then compare on warcraftlogs

hot fulcrum
balmy condor
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yes

slow tulip
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or inv someone in a party

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xD

steel ridge
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when 10.1 sims, whispyr cutie?

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(in other words, when are we settling for no more changes)

balmy condor
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tier set isn't simmable

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so

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nothing to sim

steel ridge
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sadge

gloomy dust
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Do I pick whetstone 421 (which is a dps loss on ST but upgrade on AOE) or a socketslot that gives me about 500dps increase ST 🤔

balmy condor
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whatever you value more

sleek shale
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^^

hollow dirge
flint tusk
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I’m still surprised 10.1 is so close. Only felt like last week 10.0.7 came out

drifting cosmos
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07 content is finished within 3 days

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if you have alts

hollow dirge
flint tusk
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Yeh i did it all in 2 😂
But still. I’m used to having nothing in 6 months

drifting cosmos
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yea good for alts, true

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had a 385 set ready for alt ding'ed 70

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well this is not SL S2 luckily

gloomy dust
drifting cosmos
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this 10.0 is actually quite good, all things considered, not so sure about 10.1 monkahmm

hollow dirge
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this is why I'm asking, are you progging something, since 10.1 is here in a month and this gear becomes trivial

grim jay
drifting cosmos
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pick whetstone and get socket next week

gloomy dust
grim jay
hollow dirge
gloomy dust
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I do however have a 415 puzzle box and mythic icon

grim jay
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Also does it really sim better in DS ? I only simmed the 415 once and it wasnt better iirc

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If I play sin in keys I mostly use puzzle and icon or boon

gloomy dust
grim jay
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Thought that since you said its best m+ trinket tbf

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Since that isnt the case for most people

grim jay
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Yeah it isnt the best for m+ overall

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Most people use boon / torch / icon / cct

sick aspen
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for brood prog, is the 20% from master poisoner important/worth over nimble? and atroph or mn?

hollow dirge
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you on adds?

sick aspen
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boss

balmy condor
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gonna be real

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I forgot to use atrophic for a raid

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no one cared

sick aspen
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lol

gloomy dust
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Aight nvm even in DS the 421 whetstone is a loss sorry for bothering OMEGAKEKW

hollow dirge
hollow dirge
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but yeah, if so, socket ez

gloomy dust
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Oh ffs I'm an idiot, forgot IC spec

gusty mirage
hollow dirge
grim jay
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Trinkets sim different in different slots

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Bcs use order

hexed flicker
hollow dirge
gloomy dust
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Nope, even on DS with the indiscriminate carnage build it's still a loss

hollow dirge
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that's why "sim yourself" is the only way around shit. same class, similar ilvl, and it's an upgrade over the same item for me, while downgrade for you ^^

grim jay
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Its kinda weird nonetheless

gloomy dust
mental flower
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Haven't kept up with the new ring/gems. Is there anything on this disc regarding whats considered best for assasination?

royal lantern
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the pins and the FaQ

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all the infomration you need 99% of the time

grim jay
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Getting all the information you ever need by just reading the posts in the same places, always?

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Wild

mental flower
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I did check FAQ but couldn't see any mention with ctrl f. Thanks@royal lantern I forgot about pins

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And for not just resorting to being a smart ass like others

grim jay
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We all are smartasses, dw

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Just depends on the individual mood each day

mental flower
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bit cringe

grim jay
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Cringe is cringe dead

oak tangle
grim jay
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Ptr raidtesting sin seemingly is up there boys and girls copium

grim jay
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Its old and more raidtesting than actual spec performance

cobalt hemlock
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well we got preety much 0 changes so i would imagine us doing preety similar to what we are now

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which seems exactly to be the case looking at the thing

grim jay
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Nah we rn are atleast "good" ST

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In those logs we aint

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😁

spice spire
grim jay
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Always need to take that with a grain of salt because of people doing the logs, stuff not yet implemented/working and stuff

spice spire
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Dooming over 12 hours later

grim jay
cobalt hemlock
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okay we are 6th best on teros and 10th on that preety much same for me i guess one is slighty above average second is average

cobalt hemlock
grim jay
cobalt hemlock
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the pirate spec got nerfed

spice spire
cobalt hemlock
grim jay
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I mean, arcane tier is shit aswell and they only got a word removed from the tooltip

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We still in it copium

steel ridge
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that train has left the station

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what is it week 5 of ptr?

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with not even 4 more weeks of testing and iterating?

spice spire
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3 more builds

steel ridge
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3 more builds, right, lets see

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we were "promised" a exsang rework of some kind at a later date

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smart rupture on sub is still not a thing

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nighstalker is kaputt with no compensation to be fixed at a later date

cobalt hemlock
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only thing that makes sense to that the rogue guy is focusing on all the trinkets and stuff

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but idk

steel ridge
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so just going from previous communication of what will be addressed "later" in the expansion we got no hits

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but hey, duskwalkers patch got a tooltip fix to now work on deathmark

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timewalking is saved i guess

cobalt hemlock
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also changing how shadowlands legendary works. solving the real issues

steel ridge
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i think it worked already, but the tooltip wasnt accurate

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or did it? if not that would be hilarious if they actually fixed it 6 month after season 4 ended

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*prepatch/season 4 that is

hollow cedar
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
uncut echo
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Now are bitching and moaning it was fixed

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Fucking insane

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I refuse to believe that anyone holds enough credability to make a valid complaint about the state of rogue with what I read here

craggy oak
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I'd be this mad playing sin atm too

uncut echo
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I'm not mad playing sin

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Spec feels great to play

marble hemlock
uncut echo
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No, that I agree with

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It's insanity to draw a correlation between the two though

marble hemlock
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No one would give a shit about them fixing outdated content if it came alongside fixing current bugs. But that's not the world we live in atm

uncut echo
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Was there a change this week to shadowlands legendaries?

marble hemlock
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Huh?

uncut echo
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Or are we talking duskwalker from s4

marble hemlock
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That's literally what people are talking about, no?

uncut echo
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I thought that's what they were discussing. Yes. But from the frustration it seems like they fixed sL legendaries yesterday as opposed to s4

marble hemlock
uncut echo
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Hence my utter confusion

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Yeah

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Okay no we're on the same page

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I'm just shocked that we're drawing frustration from this particular balancing event like it's a bad thing from over 5 months

marble hemlock
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When the only non-pvp Assa patchnote we got so far in 10.1 is "we fixed a shadowlands runecarving power", people will be miffed about that, even if the change itself is obviously nice.

uncut echo
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That wasnt from 10.1

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Was it

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No fucking way

marble hemlock
uncut echo
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Was it from 10.1, that was a fix from s4 shadowlands

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Nah fam

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No fucking way

slow tulip
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big SL fix, we only have to go back in time 😛

proven ferry
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😂

uncut echo
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Okay nevermind I thought we were pissed about it happening in s4

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Which it did

quasi ledge
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It never worked on Deathmark in SL, only just fixed - hence the annoyance

normal mist
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I still have my legendary chest so it's worth it

uncut echo
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It did

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Literally did

marble hemlock
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It may just be a tooltip thing, yeah

uncut echo
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That fix was already implemented

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Yeah

marble hemlock
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Or smth broke again post DF release

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And they had to go back again

uncut echo
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LMAO

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My bad entirely. I didn't know our changes dropped.

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Pardon me, I'm a sleepy lil egg

marble hemlock
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In any case, people being noisy about it isn't because people dislike a change like that. It's just a reflection of the lack of changes that people are annoyed with, so any change that isnt somewhat "big" feels wrong

uncut echo
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Nah I'm fine with noise if thats our response

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Like

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That's lowkey pathetic tbh

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And I'm usually the doomer stopgap

deft flicker
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Didn’t we also receive a kick nerf??

marble hemlock
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That pvp cloak thingy is nice tho

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That happened a while ago

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Like, 3 weeks or?

uncut echo
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10.7

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Ye

marble hemlock
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They just nerfed everybodies interrupt, so the school-lock is lower in PvP, but for some reason rogue got hit harder than anybody else

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But then again, Rogue has more disrupts than anybody else so I'm guessing that was the justification

uncut echo
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They got hit harder bc kindey and cheap and gouge and blind

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Which was their justification

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While wrong, it's plausible

deft flicker
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And it also affected pve if I’m not mistaken

uncut echo
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Shouldve been a school lock change specific to pvp

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Ye it did

vague widget
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Multi dollar company.

proud basin
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How do you think assassin will be in 10.1?

subtle tundra
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Acceptable

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But that's about it

royal lantern
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looking at the duskwalker fix gives me Hope

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if they keep that up, assa will get its first DF related fix in 6months

drifting cosmos
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starege the patch is gonna drop in a month, gl ppl

pseudo hamlet
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One more month before the patch and people are in panic already?! Chill out! They will surely fix Assa even twice in that time!

gaunt moat
pseudo hamlet
drifting cosmos
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kekdog like SL fix is what we need

gaunt moat
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What if you got a sub but haven't bought DF? then you need it starege

drifting cosmos
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Idk, still feel that this is too rushing, for a lot of tier set designs

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Not to mention the final numbers tuning

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starege unless there won’t be many tuning

gaunt moat
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It's kinda funny to meme on because we're starved for fixes. but it was probably such an easy fix, just change SpellID on an item affect.

drifting cosmos
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starege see this month goes, can always unsub and afk anytime

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Like the way they are trying or forcing ppl to play the parts of the talent tree

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Is cringe

royal lantern
gaunt moat
# drifting cosmos Is cringe

I have no issue when tier sets favoring talents.
I did have issues with the set buffing an AoE talent to the point it's usable in ST. but they "fixed" it by nerfing the set Cring

craggy oak
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would we still be mad at CT being used in ST if it was more like ferals thrash, with talents that made it buff our other bleeds or whatever

craggy oak
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the horse is only dead upon release of 10.2

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until then its very much alive

gaunt moat
# craggy oak would we still be mad at CT being used in ST if it was more like ferals thrash, ...

That would probably be a lot better and would make more sense rotation-wise.
But the way it is right now - CT and Envenom are competing abilities.
Both have instant damage throughput.
Both may deal AoE damage (envenom unreliably, but at enough targets, better.)

Changing CT to buff other bleeds, or buff next envenom, or just ANYTHING that interacts with anything with have, would be a welcome change.

spice spire
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This one for a real one mister dieslow

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Free my mans (he will be today)

burnt latch
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Did he get times out

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Oh he did

spice spire
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Yeah he got a 2d mute

subtle tundra
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Hehe

spice spire
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And yet somehow varas remains unscathed dracthyr_despair

burnt latch
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Imo thats a bit harsh, i understand flaming singular devs is uncalled for and very targeted but devs as a whole kekdog

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I personally think the devs are doing an amazing job at handeling all the different flavored specs in the game, and making sure all of them get the required love and attention! But i can understand if some people disagree

spice spire
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Unfortunately he was the “example” we’re starting a hard stance on it. Because any leeway has just been awful.

But also I tried to help; but got clarified on the stance we should be taking BearSaluteR

echo heath
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Sometimes people just need to step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air

spice spire
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Trying to give people a heads up before I just mute tho.
But yeah, don’t bash devs. We want open communication, hard to do when no change/nerfs result in them getting blasted

spice spire
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Mister dieslow wasn’t a blaster, but even passive blasting is looked at now

subtle tundra
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How is survivel play

burnt latch
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Is it okay to critique devs or is that also an offense?

echo heath
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If it's constructive and generalized it's probably fine

main vessel
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Quake am I going to be muted if I have another rogue suggestion

spice spire
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I haven’t even muted anyone ICANT

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So no

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Go off

main vessel
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Oh

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Alright, so I been cooking on this one for a minute

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(literally a minute)

spice spire
subtle tundra
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Do not cook here

main vessel
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what if you could reverse pickpocket poisons onto enemies like you can in Skyrim

subtle tundra
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Yall incredibly bad cooks

main vessel
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I like tormenting Quake with incredibly cooked takes, alright?

sweet dawn
main vessel
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I get tormented by people in Fel Hammer, it's my turn

echo heath
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Imagine adding reverse pick pocket to the vanish rotation

subtle tundra
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Well I did threaten blizz

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With my retirement

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Which is a big deal

spice spire
sweet dawn
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reverse pick pockets Zanzil's Slow Poison

Boss dies in a week bois

main vessel
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speaking of skyrim

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sneak archer spec when

woeful meteor
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ranged dps dead

spice spire
main vessel
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rogue but make it ranged BearNodders

spice spire
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They’re cooking

dull cloak
main vessel
spice spire
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Just like they are with evoker

burnt latch
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Well my feeback to the devs is to keep doing what theyre doing currently! I like the recent changes to shadow priest and boomkins, its really showing they want to improve the playing experience of all classes! I’ll be sad to see any changes towards rogues, especially this close to tier being released, so i hope they stray away and leave us in our current state. U have to remember, assasination was played on world first level and not much has changed since, so i believe this spec, and other rogue specs will be viable option and bring their own strenghts to next tiers boss fights. TLDR: good job devs, look at rogue later when u have the time

spice spire
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It’s just Sylvanas.class

woeful meteor
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Outlaw using sword mainhand hunter gun offhand in 11.0

main vessel
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I've been saying that DH needed a ranged spec

main vessel
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just turn rogue into gangplank from league

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ez fix

spice spire
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Ur right

burnt latch
spice spire
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Outlaw should go ranged

spice spire
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That’s the one channel qwik reads

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Checkmate buddy

burnt latch
spice spire
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He’s posted in there

main vessel
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outlaw needs to spawn barrels and then use an ability on the barrels to explode em

spice spire
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Even had a full conversation with Realz

main vessel
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make that their AoE damage

spice spire
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Outlaw is fixed

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Huge

burnt latch
main vessel
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eventually quake

subtle tundra
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Hehe fishe

main vessel
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I will come in here with a real suggestion

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and you won't know how to handle it

spice spire
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You know what

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I’ll be ready

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I wake up every day

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Hoping to not see soon

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And that hasn’t happened in months

burnt latch
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Do u think vers will be better for assa next tier?

spice spire
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So I think a real topplethenun suggestion is like low tier

main vessel
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become a DH and roleplay

subtle tundra
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Hehe

main vessel
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then you won't be able to see

subtle tundra
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Nerf Amp poison, buff ttk

spice spire
spice spire
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(Extreme raid progression)

subtle tundra
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Make our dots stronger

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Ic 2 min

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Sob buffed

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Hehe

spice spire
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2m seems starege

burnt latch
main vessel
deft flicker
main vessel
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I don't even play rogue and I know that's not right

burnt latch
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We dont NEED changes, they would maybe make some happier but assa is strong and viable right now

spice spire
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Wtf

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Not everyone understands you @burnt latch

storm belfry
spice spire
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They don’t live by the cieft

spice spire
storm belfry
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Oh damn

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Oh yeah quake. Idk what the fuck is up with this game

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But guess what my key is

burnt latch
spice spire
uncut echo
ebon notch
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My favourite talent

uncut echo
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Its just not best

craggy oak
uncut echo
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I woke back up, dooming is done

uncut echo
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Not is isn't

storm belfry
uncut echo
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You barely post in here, the spec is completely fine in raid

burnt latch
# craggy oak we are ok at 1 thing

I have done close to top damage as assa on a lot of bosses, it requires some above average skill for sure but assa is good when played by people who understand the 99th percentile damage patterns

subtle tundra
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I don't care about raid

sweet dawn
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The way I worded it to a guildy because there's like 1 other rogue in my guild was: Rogue atm is "Fine" but people want their spec/class to be "Good" not fine

uncut echo
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Varas we know

subtle tundra
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Hehe

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Anyone played survival

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/srs

sweet dawn
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raises hand

woeful meteor
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your add dmg is so low compared to my guild

burnt latch
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I play in a bad guild

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So its easier to parse

uncut echo
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Sin wants a bad guild for parses

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Either a really good one

woeful meteor
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true "random" guild to quote my rl at some point this tier

uncut echo
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Or a bad one

vague widget
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Working hard for the money.

craggy oak
spice spire
burnt latch
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🌿

uncut echo
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You arent entitled to top damage

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No one is

craggy oak
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you throw that word around alot

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not asking for top dmg

uncut echo
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Entitled?

craggy oak
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but a spec that is doing ok ST, piss poor cleave, no aoe even at the loss of all its st

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kinda needs a look at

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not entitlement

uncut echo
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Ret was dogshit since legion

craggy oak
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good job we not in the ret discord

uncut echo
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Let's cool off

craggy oak
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last time i checked

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we in rogue

spice spire
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Enough

burnt latch
spice spire
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Drop it at this point

craggy oak
uncut echo
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Smeth homie you're being asked to stop

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You're hitting doomer territory

burnt latch
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Herbie Gladge

craggy oak
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ight let me huff the cope

spice spire
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The man raids in a top 50 guild

craggy oak
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spec is fine

sweet dawn
spice spire
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Real

sinful rose
uncut echo
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It isn't fine, just stop dooming

burnt latch
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It releases endorfins in my brain when i hear herbie Gladge

uncut echo
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We've all heard it a thousand times

spice spire
uncut echo
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Oh god y'all summoned Zac

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That's how you know its bad

deft flicker
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The 2.6 attack speed man

spice spire
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Nah he’s just popcorncat

earnest remnant
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he just like me frfr

spice spire
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Yeah

wary ice
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sin dooming is my favorite show

spice spire
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It’s kind of a cf shtick

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When a channel is off the goop

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We cross pollinate

uncut echo
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It shouldnt be a show

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People should know when to stop

spice spire
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It shouldn’t

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And yet

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It happens every cycle rn

uncut echo
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🙂

uncut echo
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Tysm Stealthi

spice spire
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Anyway shiv on CD etc etc

deft flicker
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Sin dooming > sub dooming IMO

earnest remnant
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np np ahri

sweet dawn
uncut echo
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No dooming is good dooming

spice spire
uncut echo
# earnest remnant np np ahri

Whispyr got a 96 and had 11 more stone procs than me, rng but I was playing better after a log review side by side with him. catnod

sweet dawn
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Don't ask for something you'll regret brah

craggy oak
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I get the dooming gets old, and if you want no dooming, we cant sit there and say actually this is fine, make no sense.

burnt latch
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Garret 1 garret 2 garret 3 rupture esxang vendetta

spice spire
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Light dooming is fine.’but day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day

uncut echo
uncut echo
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Just stop

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Yet you're the one we're telling to stop?

spice spire
tacit otter
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i just dont get it, i read more or less when theres new messages, i see dooming. in what world would isay the same stuff as everyone else

midnight mist
uncut echo
spice spire
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Sorry, herbie.

burnt latch
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And im an agent of positivity

craggy oak
uncut echo
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Why are you butthurt about being asked to stop being a negative nancy

subtle tundra
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My pockets are empty

burnt latch
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Never trickstering, just keeping a positive mind and sharing that vibe

uncut echo
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The point of this channel is to help people learn to play the class.

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Not to begrudgingly moan about the state of it

burnt latch
spice spire
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You know what ur doing

ebon notch
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@craggy oak btw

ebon notch
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everything herbie says is bait

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like

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literally everything

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he rarely if ever asks for help

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he just gets bored

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his most used emote is Bait

burnt latch
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Thats insulting and i refuse to comment on these allegations

ebon notch
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ye cause you'd incriminate yourself

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ive met your lawyer

deft flicker
spice spire
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Herbie I’m gonna give you the ol’ hour time out I s2g

uncut echo
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Herbie just making our lives miserable

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By bein a lil scamp

burnt latch
uncut echo
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A cute one

ebon notch
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i had to point it out to you smeth because you're apparently a dog with a chew toy or smth behind a keyboard

uncut echo
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But a scamp

ebon notch
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literally could not stop taking the bait

uncut echo
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Daps lmfao chill

ebon notch
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who else was gonna tell him

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smh

burnt latch
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Im literally cuddling with my dog rn ill post in off topic live picture

ebon notch
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live picture?

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no shot

uncut echo
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Me rn

spice spire
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I mean - I’m not going to say I disagree. But I’d say it nicer

ebon notch
spice spire
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Miss me with that

ebon notch
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sorry but my nuts never miss

spice spire
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Chat’s going so slow; no one will realize that I hope they have a great day.

storm belfry
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You too LUBBERS

oak sky
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Wo han xihuan bing qiling

grim jay
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@spice spire Man, it’s another hot second and Assassination still hasn’t received justice. How could microsoft do this to the rogue spec Assassination. I’m gonna go onto tinder and complain. This is simply infurryating

spice spire
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Every day I wake up

sweet dawn
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Then I start to break up

deft flicker
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Then I somehow break cup

north thicket
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So with the new tier set really pushing towards poison build, do you think we'll start playing double shiv over exsanguinate? Or will it just be press cds in opener with lust + pi and feel horrible afterwards

silk bane
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I dont think you're ever going to run double shiv since it litealrly gives u 1 extra shiv the entire fight and thats close to 0 value. also, as or gameplay, the best case scenario is you play exactly as you play now. just after your DM your numbers dont drop as fast. thats all

north thicket
#

sadge 😦

grim jay
north thicket
#

I was just wanting diversity

#

Playing with like 15% haste feels very weird after playing 30-35% for the past couple years

spice spire
#

It’s the first tier

#

We had similar issues in cn

#

It’s fine Catnod

willow eagle
#

Assa in cn had some great moments

spice spire
#

In 9.0.5 prayge

willow eagle
#

Huntsman was really fun because you had so much energy

spice spire
#

But I meant on the % of haste bit

willow eagle
#

I wonder if bonespike is bugged on denathrius to this day

viscid spear
spice spire
#

It got fixed

willow eagle
#

Probably worth looking out for a potential bug in the future tho

#

If boss adds have a similar behaviour to ones in CN where instead of dying they disappear

jovial adder
#

Can assassination get some love I see all these other classes getting chances and buffs.... ngl im jealous

spice spire
#

3 more builds

marble hemlock
silk bane
neon kindle
#

The specs that are good for rogue

silk bane
#

ah big damage == good forgot

neon kindle
#

I mean to say, on a class that has 3 dps specs, the noise that gets spewed is "rogue is ok it has 2 good specs" when 2/3 are good

viscid spear
neon kindle
#

#survivalhunters

earnest remnant
viscid spear
#

And you guys complain about Rogue Surebud

neon kindle
#

So confused

#

Wasnt complaining catattack

viscid spear
#

Doomblade LIVESOFBASED

storm belfry
#

True

dull cloak
#

assassination can do the most ST in the game and people will still complain. I totally see it

spice spire
#

Doesn’t mean we mention it SoCute

vague widget
#

I like sin, which makes the cult of doom posting hard to read. Because yeah I know it's not optimal, but the other two specs just aren't it for me. Despite the goofy bongosub emote making me laugh. So I wait.

spice spire
indigo mulch
#

I mean by the looks of it, the new tier is mostly ST.

drifting cosmos
#

There is such thing called m+

ebon notch
#

a few specs are getting m+ bonuses in their set

#

which is nice and all

#

but when the raid is largely ST

#

it kinda feels bad

royal lantern
# spice spire

me, playing sub for the 1st time in a dungeon and doing 140k aoe dps

wary ice
balmy condor
vague widget
#

I'm spoiled today. Another cat.

oak sky
#

Me when dooming

spice spire
oak sky
spice spire
#

@oak sky enjoy the new name 🙂

oak sky
#

Should be druid main WeirdChamp

brazen zodiac
#

xd

serene fossil
spice spire
#

I think it’s linked on his stream

serene fossil
spice spire
north granite
#

who make rogue patch

balmy condor
#

Hopefully blizzard

#

Would be weird if they didn’t

north granite
#

😆 kushiWoof

#

who make asa rog ?

marble hemlock
#

whispyr

#

he is to blame for all assa rogue things

balmy condor
vague widget
#

Imagine the level of self hating masochism if that were true. Just making changes that upset the discord he is in.

silk bane
#

no ill come out. its my fault. I was the one who was supposed to do all the rogue stuff. but like... idk man I was busy. i watched all 9 seasons of the office. rewatched all of one piece and stuff, hope u understand. ill make sure to fix it in 10.2 though trust!

#

oh, nvm, season 2 of vinland saga and JJK is gonna be out. 10.3 for sure then

vague widget
#

Soon, related to sometime before the heat death of the universe.

#

100rogue EZ

steel ridge
#

oh bois i am free

#

zappy chicken is dead after 230 pulls 🙂

spice spire
winged veldt
#

Fuck yea!!!!!!

silk bane
#

eyyyyy gratz!

winged veldt
#

Hopefully that chicken dies for us this week lol

steel ridge
#

hopefully assassination on rekill

#

intermission is an absolute joke after the nerfs, nobody needs that aoe

balmy condor
steel ridge
#

true that

winged veldt
#

We have ST?

#

😂

steel ridge
#

sadge i died in P3 after the charge "immune" thingy

balmy condor
#

Execute damage when the boss is already at risk of phasing before third shield

steel ridge
#

dunno if that even works, i cloaked one charge and got another after that

#

and then i got no healing whatsoever for 8 seconds or something

brazen zodiac
#

:C

vague widget
#

I just wish my guild was still raiding RIP lol

grim tangle
#

you cloak before you get the charges and then move away, you take zero damage why would you need healing

wind condor
#

At what target count do we FoK over Mut

spice spire
#

3

strange python
steel ridge
#

dont have torch 😦

strange python
#

Does your group?

steel ridge
#

we have some

strange python
#

Our blue side group had 3 grieftorches, chillglobe, and an evoker staff

#

Zealot died in 3 seconds

#

The shield is also super healable at this point

steel ridge
#

yeah

#

never seen blue side, but red side is a breeze now

hallow token
#

In a blue post about nerfs to ret pallies, they said "All damage reduced by 3%," which just proves they can tune class/spec damage up or down at will.

#

Not sure why they aren't just tuning assassination rogues up by a percent or two or whatever. They can. But they haven't. Why wait for bigger talent tree reworks, gameplay adjustments, etc? Like yes, keep working on it, but also, just turn a dial now, please.

spice spire
#

Been there, done that.

#

We’re gonna be fine

storm belfry
#

Ret nerfs

spice spire
#

The big change wanted by most is the gameplay stuff. And the design space. Once design space is kosher, then tuning becomes a breeze

#

But for now, you don’t even know the numbers for next tier.
For all you know tier gonna go crazy and we’re gonna be OMGMEGAZONK class

#

But even then, it’s really the gameplay that matters

#

(To me, fun is subjective, just had this conversation)

oak sky
hallow token
silk bane
#

i mean didnt they just technically partially rework devoker tree this last blue post?

#

half their talents went from 2 to 1 cost

spice spire
oak sky
#

it actually looked decent

oak sky
spice spire
#

I’ll send you to Willshattner to learn the ways of meowing

oak sky
#

i might need to learn how to be a cock too

spice spire
oak sky
#

they need to give devoker like another button or 2

spice spire
oak sky
#

no i didnt see daps

#

i only saw his take

#

its not personal

thorn fjord
storm onyx
spice spire
#

See shadow priest mid tier design

#

Part 3

oak sky
#

just let mind spike instant cast 4Head

clear junco
#

yo is arterial precision complete ass?

oak sky
#

kinda

#

might be good sometime

clear junco
#

I mean I kinda like the execute bleeds and poisons

#

I guess you miss out on spikes and garrote dmg

oak sky
#

arterial precision is ass rn but like

#

its possible at some point it ends up being good

clear junco
#

im just theorising builds because it feels like ive hit a wall lmao

oak sky
#

wait

clear junco
#

pvp

oak sky
#

if you're talking pvp #pvp-faq is a good resource tho i know theres more room for flexibility

clear junco
#

il check it out!

oak sky
#

also #pvp is the main place for pvp discussion

#

theres usually a couple people with pvp knowledge in the spec channels but generally the designated channel is a lot more helpful

clear junco
#

can you tell me why people pick master assassin or is that just a nelf thing?

#

cuz im a troll rogue lmao

oak sky
#

personally i dont know much about pvp, definitely would ask the guys in #pvp

clear junco
#

alright! 👍

fading mason
#

am i the only one that thinks that them changing the shadowlands legi wording is a sign of that going into the skill tree?

spice spire
#

You’re not

#

But who knows

main vessel
#

Is Quake still here

#

That determines if I have another Rogue suggestion BearWicked

spice spire
#

I am

#

Loosely

main vessel
#

What if they made Echoing Reprimand with the talent below it able to Animacharge all of your combo points and consuming all of them in 1-2-3-4-5 order gives you a Yahtzee buff that makes your next Rupture AoE

#

(For legal reasons this is a joke)

pure moth
#

Lol

storm belfry
silk bane
#

hows this man not in jail yet what

#

lock him up dude

silk bane
#

I watched him do it. I'll go to stand in court

gusty mirage
main vessel
#

All I’m trying to do here is lower the bar

#

So if I ever do have a cohesive thought

#

It shocks you

bronze pike
#

nah topple

#

topple

spice spire
#

Man saves me a second full time job (log reviewing every mf known to man) just to terrorize me SMH

bronze pike
#

i got a idea

spice spire
#

(I laugh tremendously at these)

bronze pike
#

okay you guys know esang right?

main vessel
spice spire
#

Esang

bronze pike
#

make it a 20 min cd

#

but

spice spire
#

Is that related to iladies hmmCoffee

bronze pike
#

but

silk bane
#

no more cooking pls my eyes cant take it anymore

bronze pike
#

every poison tick reduces the cd of it by 3 seconds

#

play well, you get perma esang

spice spire
#

Why 3

bronze pike
#

or else it'll be to strong

spice spire
#

Why not 2 then

silk bane
brazen zodiac
#

O.O

oak sky
#

i love exsang

bronze pike
#

then it'll be too weak

#

obviously

gusty mirage
oak sky
#

i love me too

spice spire
#

Why not pi?

gusty mirage
#

damn

bronze pike
#

priests have that

gusty mirage
#

andrew just fuckboyed me

oak sky
#

dw

#

i love your dad more than me

spice spire
#

Damn ur right

spice spire
bronze pike
#

a new idea

#

man i hsould bethe sin dev

#

um

main vessel
#

What if Rogue had a version of Isolated Prey?

oak sky
#

draught of deep focus

spice spire
#

It does

bronze pike
#

you know the ability final reckoning for ret paladin?

spice spire
main vessel
bronze pike
#

we do that but for poison

#

replace dragon tempered balde for it

spice spire
#

Lil bro been cooking too much

#

Mf thinks he’s Jesse pinkman

main vessel
#

I’m just trying to think of things that might actually help Assa with my limited understanding and the knowledge that it’s “niche” is supposed to be ST

#

But all I got are shitposts and I gotta ration those out

spice spire
#

Duskwalker’s is a start Cheesin

bronze pike
#

nah dragon tempered blades is a passive

#

no one likes passives

silk bane
#

duskwalker made it 70 sec right?

bronze pike
#

obviously

spice spire
#

Was no set amount

bronze pike
#

so ew replace the passive, with a active button :)

spice spire
#

Dude’s boogie man is evokers ICANT

oak sky
#

theres an active button called kingsbane

#

well not really

#

but its somewhere hidden in the spell data

#

might be datamined and encrypted

#

never seen it in the wild

bronze pike
#

kingsbane is a mtyh

#

my ideas are fresh

#

and realistic

#

:)

spice spire
#

Realistic is a word

#

You chose

bronze pike
#

yes

#

:)

spice spire
#

I appreciate you

#

The troll suggestions are a welcome change SoCute

thorn fjord
#

Would be cool if they would let us test nightstalker fixed and then tune to whatever it should be for balancing

bronze pike
#

its the least me and topple can do to lighten things up around here

oak sky
spice spire
bronze pike
#

DAMN

thorn fjord
#

Oof

spice spire
#

Let’s dive into it the

#

Why did you fumble the bag with the rave chick

cerulean walrus
#

Ooooooh

spice spire
#

Do you think you self sabotage as a form of self loathing?

oak sky
#

i was texting dry

#

because i wasnt comfortable saying what i knew i could say

spice spire
#

And why is that?

cerulean walrus
#

Dude fumblin stumblin tumblin bumblin crumblin

oak sky
#

because i lost all my self confidence over covid

spice spire
#

Was it a specific event that caused that, or just years of isolation?

#

“Isolation”

oak sky
#

probably isolation

#

and i got passed over a few times in high school

#

i fumbled a lot

#

in high school

cerulean walrus
#

Yeah but like you had years to skill up that rizz

#

So

spice spire
#

Do you think your escaping into a video game hinders you from taking the shots that you could take?

thorn fjord
#

High school don’t matter

cerulean walrus
#

True dog

spice spire
#

It does when you’re in your 20s

thorn fjord
cerulean walrus
#

High school is a joke after you leave lmao

oak sky
cerulean walrus
#

I left all that shit behind me

thorn fjord
oak sky
#

i was friends with an egirl for a while last year

#

thats another story

oak sky
#

im still in college so its not that far away yet

spice spire
#

Why do you think you have issues letting go?

cerulean walrus
#

I mean like I met my GF back in high school but most of that shit I just dropped

oak sky
spice spire
#

You can’t feel guilt for what’s out of your control

#

If you live life filled with regret you’ll never move on as well

cerulean walrus
#

Your failures and successes in high school will hardly matter in the long run tbh

spice spire
#

Memes aside

oak sky
#

i can feel guilt for how i neglected the friendship once she started dating another guy

spice spire
#

Holy fuck this got real

oak sky
spice spire
#

It also may

oak sky
#

its been too long

#

now

spice spire
#

But that’s for them to decide

#

Nah man

oak sky
#

ive talked to her here and there but never really got the chance to apologize

gusty mirage
#

young Herbert is typing

burnt latch
#

So.. whats the best assa opener in combat in u guys’ opinion?

cerulean walrus
spice spire
#

I reached out to a friend of mine from hs literally last week. She was my best friend the entire time and life went else where. 12 years since I actually communicated. And it’s been great catching up

burnt latch
gusty mirage
cerulean walrus
#

True and real

burnt latch
brazen lantern
cerulean walrus
#

Just throw yourself into the lava on primal council

oak sky
main vessel
#

What if they made it so that enemies that die with a bleed applied explode for % of their max hp

oak sky
#

and i only did that because my friend who goes to the same college as her said he saw her in his tinder swipes

burnt latch
main vessel
brazen lantern
#

Youre right brother

#

Mutilate instead of one then

oak sky
#

@spice spire congrats you found some andrew deep lore

burnt latch
#

Gotcha, will try it out

brazen lantern
#

Np fam

spice spire
#

But you move on and do your best

oak sky
#

yeah i try

spice spire
#

And I did

oak sky
#

every time im not crushing on anyone my brain goes back to her

#

xd

brazen lantern
#

Dont forget to always deathmark before exsang to blast more burst

gusty mirage
burnt latch
brazen lantern
#

Yes yes

burnt latch
gusty mirage
#

just play warlock

burnt latch
#

Fair, will try

#

Priest and warlock r actually only classes i dont have atleast at 60

#

Ufo classes

cerulean walrus
#

Just die to Eranog clothesline

#

Like Fuu

burnt latch
#

Dude my shaman dinged 70 like exactly 24 hours ago and its already yolked as fuck

silk bane
#

I dinged yo mom 24 hours ago

#

and im not even yolked

burnt latch
#

The main swap looking too real blizz pushing it

oak sky
#

📠

burnt latch
#

Damn im happy for her

silk bane
#

me too

#

great woman

brazen lantern
#

No dagger tho

burnt latch
silk bane
burnt latch
#

Look at this unit

burnt latch
#

Fucking double kurog weapons and all

burnt latch
silk bane
#

HAHAHAHAHA

spice spire
#

(Opp behavior)

gusty mirage
#

holy

oak sky
#

sparkcieft can outdamage agreonr

gusty mirage
#

imma need the legendary herbie to rate my warlock's mog

burnt latch
spice spire
#

This is revenge for the trickery this am SoCute

oak sky
#

UNTIL I GET A DIURNA DAGGER TONIGHT BITCH

gusty mirage
burnt latch
#

Hooooly that watering can is next level

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

kind of a juicer

burnt latch
#

Need a bigger belt tho that orc looks like a belt type of orc

oak sky
#

@spice spire feel free to dm me if you want more deep lore Cheesin ill let you know if there are any developments (there will not be any)

gusty mirage
#

(idk what I'm doing on warlock)

#

I went over to their discord

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

and it's about as helpful as slamming a car door on my balls

oak sky
#

nothing is prying

spice spire
#

Nah that’s a personal stance

#

I’m always one to listen

#

Unless it’s mentioned specifically I do not ask

burnt latch
gusty mirage
oak sky
spice spire
oak sky
#

i miss her

gusty mirage
#

and how did it infest rh

oak sky
spice spire
#

Cat attack

oak sky
#

thats always who im talking about when i say i miss her tho quake

spice spire
#

Pretty sure this is @thorn prism ‘s doing

oak sky
#

i tell myself theres no her

#

but its her

thorn prism
spice spire
#

Damn smoge

burnt latch
# oak sky i tell myself theres no her

So you're going by "Warlock Main" now nerd? Haha whats up douche bag, it's Herbie from Highschool. Remember me? Me and the guys used to give you a hard time in school. Sorry you were just an easy target lol. I can see not much has changed. Remember ”name redacted” the girl you had a crush on? Yeah we're married now. I make over 200k a year and drive a mustang GT. I guess some things never change huh loser? Nice catching up lol. Pathetic..

main vessel
thorn prism
oak sky
#

i will not play warlock

burnt latch
#

Damn identity theft

spice spire
#

I am a bit of an opponent as the kids say

oak sky
#

quake a member of the opposition fr

spice spire
#

Amen

burnt latch
#

I love to see my opponents suffer. Fuck the opponents!

thorn prism
#

Mayalock did 80k overall in a 20 tjs today

#

at 398 ilvl

oak sky
#

im so radioed

#

(radiohead)

#

I'm a creeeeeep

spice spire
oak sky
#

I'm a weirdooooooo

thorn prism
#

(he’s a creep)

drifting cloud
#

!mr

oak sky
#

wrong chat

drifting cloud
#

no u

eternal talon
#

I feel like im missing something. I've been playing this spec for about 2 weeks now and I'm noticing that my 6pt Rupture(thanks to ER) is still ticking even with exsanging by the time i need to hit deathmark in the opener? it's always about 2 secs off am I just missing haste?

spice spire
#

Wait what’s the question?

runic hinge
#

I’m so confused on what your opener could be

shrewd night
#

You hit deathmark right after exsang

#

What do you mean still ticking

eternal talon
#

so from my understanding you hit echo >rupture>vanish>Garrote>exsang>deathmark obvisloy this is in the middle of the opener

shrewd night
#

Where have you found that opener?

eternal talon
#

but by the time i hit deathmark to to buff my bleeds rupture is still ticking from the echo buff

#

discord?

#

double checking

spice spire
#

He skipped the first bit

#

But ik he meant that window

shrewd night
#

Ah

eternal talon
#

i said it was in the middle of it

spice spire
#

So I’m still confused

runic hinge
#

Deathmark just doubles your bleeds. You can reapply during deathmark and it will still duplicate them

spice spire
#

(And I could just be misreading there, it’s not a problem, just making sure I’m not missing anything)

runic hinge
#

You don’t need to have them last longer than the duration of deathmark and you can reapply them after the exsanguinated bleeds fall off

eternal talon
#

yea let me try again on the dummy i feel im being stupid

shrewd night
#

There are no dumb mistakes, only uuuh. Variations.

uncut echo
#

So true

oak sky
uncut echo
#

Idk, I'm of the firm opinion you can outstupid people in chess

#

Lmao

#

I'm dentge

balmy condor
#

Can confirm

#

Me and my friend playing chess out stupid each other constantly

wind condor
#

is it worth holding DM/Esg/Box for 1min for lust?

#

Like we lust at 5 min, should i hold the combo wombo from 4 minutes?

balmy condor
#

If you aren’t missing a cast because of it sure

#

But you would never want to miss a cast on purpose for something like that

wind condor
#

so if the fights roughly 9:15, its pretty close

balmy condor
#

If it’s 9:15 you would miss a cast

wind condor
#

Whispyr dm me your amazon regsitery for christmas, you're a homie

balmy condor
#

:P np

gusty mirage
#

but you didn't hear that from me

viscid spear
balmy condor
viscid spear
neon kindle
#

Ass rogue dry asf with the changes out here like

uncut echo
#

ye let's keep bringing it up

#

That's a delightful idea

#

:3

sweet dawn
#

It's alright though just means we're perfect the way we are ❤️