#assassination
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the same
kk ty
Nothing has changed
ignoring CT feelsgoodman
We're still awaiting changes
!fuu
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Im finishing P1 top dmg now with ring and UHDK playing frost
Just saw that Shadow Crash CD got reduced to 20 seconds so now shadow priests can actually keep their dots up in AOE basically all the time, so you IC reduced CD enjoyers can have some hope š
Are you playing sub
Flaring Cowl is meant to just do fire damage every 3 seconds while in combat correct? no other conditions required like attacking etc?
is assassination actually bad in m+, been playing it a bit and even if its worse than sub/combat it still feels better than most other classes
Huh why would we want that
People want IC CD reduced to help in aoe I guess
Who
if you get perma bleeds on everything you're going to get bleeds nerfed just like shadows dots
Assassination isnt doing insane damage with IC up, why would it get bleeds nerf is the cd was lowered?
atm its you can keep up with other specs if you have IC up, but are absolute dog shit if its down
can't we just play the spec because we just love it and not think about numbers..
Did that for plenty of years
Sure, but it feels like shit when a pack is pulled with IC on cd
I want to feel good as well
same here, and planning the same thing ahead
No it doesn't
i mean it does
Yeah it does
exactly
they did say at some point they were killing exange right?
you just remember the musclebrah sin aoe opener and its over
like you did the last few expansions
they'd like to, but they're probably trying to find a satisfying ability to put in its stead
Yep. But now all we get are nerfs and we get ignored by blizz when weak.
anyone have a details script that merges deathmark?
nvm got it to work
-- combine Deathmark
Details.OverridedSpellIds[360830] = 360194;
Details.OverridedSpellIds[360826] = 360194;
Details.OverridedSpellIds[394328] = 360194;
Details.OverridedSpellIds[394325] = 360194;
Details.OverridedSpellIds[394324] = 360194;
incase anyone wants it



Dont have any high hopes, just wait it out and expect nothing
Do you want to work more for the dps you get out of it rn tho ?
more dps for the same amount of work. personally, don't mind the relative (comparative?) difficulty of assassination. I want the difficulty to feel like it is worth it.
said it before: rn we have to work very hard just to be mediocre.
very noob question: how come subterfuge is not played for sin?
Why would you use it anyway?
oh you can garrote non-stealth
The useful part(garrote bonus damage) is from different talent. š
ye but on cleave the "from stealth" effect would still be active with subter, right?
Go 3 talents up!
What do you mean?
well shrouded says that from stealth you get +2 combo points for garrote, with subterfuge your 2 other garrotes would also be from stealth
But why would you use Garrote from stealth with subterfuge? I mean, that talent gives nothing
Improved garrote gives the same thing
or does improved garrote just enable that part of shrouded
Subterfuge isn't increasing CP and dmg done from garrotes, it's actually the two other talents
okay i see now, was just confused on the descriptions
I mean, you can get Subterfuge + Shrouded Suffocation without Improved Garrote, but that would be a huge DPS loss.
That's because Improved Garrote not only gives you the same thing as Subterfuge(for that ability) but also increases it's damage by 50%!
Hello guys I Would like to know how do you manage rupture on packs, try to spread it if the dots is fully consome or half of mobs then spends cp on envenom and CT?
What method / rule you applied for rupture š
It's really situational for me. I am playing IC+DTB in M+, so I am just reapplying ruptures/garrotes when they runs out(or in pandemic).
I am going with CT/Envenom spam when I have enough energy regeneration(thanks to Venomous Wounds from the bleeds).
Sometimes, when I know that the NPCs are going to die fast I am not trying to apply as much bleeds as possible, maybe one rupture for the energy gain for the next pack.
If you open a pack of 6 mobs without IC how Many ruptures you will made ?
Considering IC - I'd have 6 ruptures on the mobs.
...and 6 garrotes aswell!
When you use Indiscriminate Carnage your next rupture and garrote spreads on up to 8 enemies within 10 yards range.
So the best tactic is to use IC and then:
-Garrote from stealth - because then it deals more damage because of the talents(mentioned just above),
-Echoing Reprimand + Rupture(on 2-4CP), so that rupture will be empowered(as it was casted with 7 combo points)
Ok thanks š
Dont we need Just 5 bleeds running to be energy neutral? 6 gar + 6 ruptures feels a Bit overkill
Sorry, did read "with IC" instead of "without". You're right!
That's why I described below that message how to use IC.
Whatever you need to be at energy parity, nit running out and not overcapping
Anyone planning to participate in the M+ affix testing this weekend? https://www.wowhead.com/news/test-new-affixes-during-the-mythic-ptr-testing-weekend-march-30th-april-3rd-332216
Ah yeah got you!
sounds fun
Dont lie to them
entangling sounds about as fun as shoving a baseball bat up my ass
So very?
That does sound kinda fun tbh
"We've heard your feedback about affixes feeling unfun. So we put a snare as an affix that can line up with spiteful. Get fucked"
- someone at blizzard probably
Don't knock it til you try it honey
Is it insta snare or do we have Time to move out? Anybody know?
insta snare that you have to break in 8s
or get stunned
damn bro that sounds like so much fun
Some people like masochism, don't kink shame
Wtf
It is push week
Except I would literally rather not play the game that week
what about adds that spawn and cast a 50% dmg and healing reduction for 20sec?(aka you wipe when the cast goes trought cus the healer cant heal people anymore)
and it will keep you in combat for 20sec
š
whatcha pushin bud
what
700k in 8 seconds????
Yeah it's in the warrior discord as an image. It also shows two active. Kek
Idk if you can even funnel that
that's dps race territory

Gotta get lucky and always crit on evis
Existence is pain 
"we dont like that people reduced explosive into a healer mechanic, so we give it so much HP that its a healer mechanic anyway, because you cant dps them down and healer needs to heal trought"

Shouldnt be that hard with shadowstep or am i dumb
Well shit, I was being hopeful that the person who told me that was wrong
Starting a list of who doesnt swap .. lol. That way you never run with them
how much mastery is good mastery
tryna figure out how bad it would be if i start playing some sin
id have 28%
You'd have to sim it to determine that for your gear set.
Isn't this out they originally were? They had more health
doesnt double garrote in the opener overwrite ir?
or does shrouded suffocation keep it ir
they used to scale with key level, but the difference was 1 gcd vs 3ish gcds in higher keys
improved garrote is 3 seconds
ah


Sounds like skip week 
sounds like skipping the season
What In the flying fuck
omg its that nighthold boss
LMAO
its fine, they took effort to make the new affixes in a spot to enhance gameplay and strategy
Do you have like 20 oither mobs pulled?
I am honestly okay w snaring but the incorporeal should go away
They decided to make explosives not a healer mechanic, and in doing so made it a healer mechanic
When explosives spawn, do DPS just pop defensives because the healer isnt going to be healing?
I mean they just nerfed explosive spawn rate
Just to make a new affix w a high spawn rate

I mean no
no, right now they just ignore them
and heal through the damage
Unless there is a lot and somehow rot damage is out
But idk how it works atm
Is that really what they do?
Did they nerf their damage
yeah so they're just ignoring them lmao
I mean wow
40%lethal at 3 w no cds
I wish that was the case for me
Why is it that when I swap to dps they change explosives
Like literally
more like kinda impossible
cus you dont even have 8sec
its more like 6sec, cus of actually reacting and swapping targets
that's not gonna a be the final numbers on the explosive hp tho right?
Are they Tryna make it a full group swap effort
bruh, a full group of 5 people with 1 tank 1 healer 3dps wont do 700k dmg in 7-5 seconds lol
yea but I mean they can still lower the hp, hence why we're testing now

P sure one person could
Itāll be like 3 globals or something
mate, look at the DPS you are doing
is there any downside to macroing ambush and mutilate together? blindside is higher prio and they give same cp?
Without CDs and indefinitely as they keep spawning lol what
Did u see incorporeal spawn?
No, mind sharing??

Aren't they the mobs you have to target directly?
Oh
I though only aoe ccs
Ic doesnāt either afaik
It will
delete all affixes
This is turbo hyper preliminary
What will I do for fun then? 
You already know that isnāt happening
Do u play anything besides wow

Donāt have time to

haha boomer
Old man 
Uh. Harder to explain to non United States people
Tldr social work for the poor in a metro hospital

Are we optimistic our set gets reworked, too? Considering they changed lots of other stuff
Probably best to approach it like that, yeah
Current lore Jeff
Is that we have Realz asking tcs for input (supposedly)
And he alluded to a rework early on in 10.0, not exclusively to exsanguinate.
Hm
Aight, hoping for the best
will sin get the ret treatment.
We don't know
Probably what they are referring to, though this was about sin specifically
Aināt no way sin gets the rest treatment
Nah
It doesnāt need a complete rework
It's about rogue in general
We just need a little bit of actual thought put in
Rogue overall is fine imo
Sin kinda sucks yeah but overall weāre still in a better spot than other classes
Sin just has to sacrifice way too much for aoe and doesn't bring an aoe CD in a tier where aoe was built into every fight.
Yeah tbh I donāt think so
It just needs some tweaks. Def not a whole rework
(he's not)
I mean it be like that sometimes
This hurts my soul :(
Our other specs balanced that out⦠I know it sucks for those solely wanting to play sin
But our other options are still good
'we have 2 relevant specs, rejoice!' isn't a good take
Could be worse⦠we could be where sv is currently
the whole "realz is asking for input" was this convo in wow general
and people fucking ran with it
for no reason
Idk where people got this impression š i knew it was cope
Isn't survival superior boss damage to sin?
I progged all mythic as sin and still did ok
idk, bad game of telephone
Hmm
Isnt the future rework in 10.0 thing also cope
Sure, played sin for most of it too (not raz for obvious reasons), doesn't mean the spec wasn't done dirty.
Idk man we should just give up hope and quit ig
We still have really good secondary options⦠Sub is in a really nice spot right now
no, exsang was specifically called out in a blue post with the nerf saying they're looking at changes to make it more palatable
That feels like forever ago already lol
All i remember realz saying is there were some changes he would like to have the time to make but he wasnt sure if it was gonna be 10.1 or 11.0 or beyond
I told @spice spire I wouldnāt doom in here anymore and Iām sticking to that
Again, class is fine, sin eating 6 nerfs through December was uncalled for.
Yep but what can we do? š¤·āāļø
Hope for a resurgence in 10.1 and be patient is all
I'm not even trying to doom rn i just want everyone to be realistic 
Even with all the st in 10.1 I won't be seriously considering sin in a prog environment.
10.1 is still some weeks out
Thats not realistic either tuning isnt close to done
so it makes sense to wait before making any judgement call
True, they still have time to move atrophic back to the spec tree ;)
!whispyr
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
good one bro
i wanna see the Sin main @vestal wren angle next tier
Man lmao

Atrophic in the spec tree wouldve been dogshit
lol, i don't think i would switch to sin
but tbh i am not super excited about the tier set
God bless
of sutbelty
Did you play sin during SoD?
Canāt blame sub looks awful tier wise 
100%, same if restless crew made it live.
Sub was fine in sod. So probably not
Even during BFA?
yes
Fuu either doesnt do mythic or does mythic late enough that it doesnt matter at all
Sub was pretty dog most of raid
2nd one
So its not a huge deal what spec
he's too busy putting us on his back to do it 
'we saw a lot of players were macroing dance + symbols together, and we took offense to that'
- blizz probably
we disencouraged symbols + blades macro
but blades + symbols is okay-ish
i assume many players have that in a macro
daily reminder to calm down and stay calm on this blessed evening, all will be allright

Get the kill? @royal lantern
best pull?
2,6%
SO CLOSE

Gl Tryan!
I do
Well my fears about incorporeal look to be true. They don't despawn when kicked, so no stealth for 20 seconds. Just hope one doesn't spawn near the end of a pack pull I guess.
But still also separate buttons
Hate to hear it... Already annoying between chain pulls + spitefuls to even try to run sin in keys :P
I already feel like dead weight on spiteful weeks with never restealthing. Having 2 affixes in the rotation doing that is going to really suck.
they should just make ic empower garrote
Honestly sepsis on a 45s CD would even make me happy
I dont understand just stun them after the pull
he's saying like spiteful, the adds can linger after the pack is dead and keep you from restealthing, which ints the next pull opener
They go away in 1 global or off global
Wowhead just posted example video of the affixes, they don't go away. They chain cast for 20 seconds.
Intuitive gameplay
Will only be an issue if they spawn near the end of a pack I guess, so we'll see how bad it really is.
But I am worried.
Nah idk how people are actually playing assassination in m+
I enjoy listening to folks whine incessantly about "time lost cuz we aren't chain pulling"... on 2nd boss trash of Nok during spiteful, cuz y'know... us not mounting is definitely because I'm trying to get stealth back
Hey Ahri, I own in m+
What is your ign so I can be nosey
No leakers
Found it, Ahri-bleedinghollow

I like the blind confidence of "found it"
I have to go to whispyr's guild to open his profile
cause I cba remembering the special character
Oxi and whisp were easy to find. Cause I followed them on twitch awhile ago
Lmfao, I hit 2956.
I just xferred serverd
When I was hpal I had a secret character in my name. My raid lead and healing cd person hated it
But once my shit resyncs
So now Iām supposed to go look for that number
yea I used to use special characters
until I get to a server
where my name is taken
Bro oxi itās so easy itās just
Nokstella-a452
cause I cba
WhĆspyr
I really wanted to change my rogues name to Cyonide
I remember all oxi names
I used to be Venoxis
Oxxi oxii oxĆ I remember oxide for some reason
My evoker has the coolest name tho. Cyonara
I thought that was cool
And I donāt even play that dogshit
But Nokstella and Radahn until the day I die
Thatās p cool tbh
No one will ever find me
Hm
my brother in christ
Before I got this name I just had my rogue as an undead named Infinis
found it
I haven't used "oxide" since 2004 when I was playing cs
Bro no creep but I found you the day you first helped me years ago
Oxi too
Lmao
Yāall easy to find
I donāt hide my mediocrity from the world


Canāt hide that beauty
Pog
That's me @storm belfry
I am coming for you
if I open this
and I see outlaw
2958 liar 
I'm banning you

I LINKED YOU MY LOGS

Get everyone to report it as inappropriate, blizz forces changez you snake in, profit?
I tried to sneak in a "hey can you flag this for a rename so I can yoink?
"
and they told me to fuck off
HAHAHAHHA LEAVE ME ALONE
1m maybe
It's a trans girl rite of passage
bringing that filthy pirate smut
into MY assassination channel?
Ask maya and lauren
outlaw score is higher than my entire score
This christian assassination channel
LMAO
the last time you did a key, Barack Obama was still president
bro I sent in game mail to the Cyonide name haver. And I havenāt gotten a response. Itās a lvl 50. Doubt dude even has a sub
I played sax with him
Same for you probs
imma play sax on that ass if you keep this up
I will love you no matter sexuality, race; gender. But playing outlaw? Nah thatās a disown
QUAKE NO

based
I had Cheems on Zuljin
For a while
when did I get 2844
I wanted to get yelled at by oxi
wtf
need HRT for whatever hormone compels people to play outlaw
Thereās only 2 pov assa raz kills on YouTube Sadge
wow
Estrogen
Whispyr played it for two pulls in sod and heās on thin ice still
Yāall hav too much non sin IO
don't put that on estrogen
You have too much nonsin io
I havent run a single Sin key all of DF LOL
Iām pure
TRUE 1 is too much
Have been for over an expansion

We wouldāve timed
people stopped asking me
Double rogue
I can't even find the dedication to afk in valdrakken anymore
and I log off

Cannot believe oxi is mad at me for playing outlaw
I'm still doing the profession shit for some ungodly reason
Whispyr we should do a key with jez
That sounds like a fucking hoot
I get scared when I join a key and ppl are targeting me
Feel like Iām bout to get kicked
I thought you wanted me to enjoy the game
oxi gets gaslit
I WANNA DO THIS SO BAD
I went an entire night
without saying anything negative toward jez
literally all I said "that pull sucks, you can't pull it without defensives up"
and apparently that turned into me bullying her
@wild lantern
She just has ptsd from upper Kara man
@wild lantern would you like to tank my 22 AV tonight
Sheāll still talk about that key from time to time
Poor Jez
SHE SWAPPED TO TREANT FORM WHILE TANKING LAST BOSS BRO
Were you in a coma for an entire night?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHE HAS PTSD
Oh wait

Ye
Oh
ya fort week tjs
Iāll still take
Bad news is they still play on alts :)
You can drop fort week king
Fuck it. Iām assassination
Oxi a week behind
Could you not have stopped dark claw?
flopped over
Toxic
on my warlock? no
on cooldown buddy
HE IS GETTING GASLIT ON MAIN
Calm down sweaty

you're the one typing in all caps
I know you know how to play
Shadow fury
Oxi I come at you out of love
they have to be in line of sight don't they
Hm
How tf does that work
This is a 16
because this game is good
Skill issue on oxi part
No shot that ignores los?

she was legit all the way around the corner
Blackvneck down bad
Yeah
That's bullshit
Doesnāt know how to instant gate
during shadowlands we did keys with jez, and she afk'd mid pull because she forgot to take her adderal and just stared at a critter she thought was a pet battle and fucking died
She was beside us

Any clippers
That's content
she was hyperventilating
started freaking out and apologizing after we wiped
and I told her to chill we have time
and we still timed it
KAād the sub rogue too
I bully jez.
But sheās a delight to run keys with actually
Just donāt take them seriously and ur laughing
I used to have insufferable tank anxiety
Until I just :3'd at anyone when I fucked up
Then I got good :3
I still have tank anxiety because Iām a shitter 
Man quake chill
I dont have tank anxiety because i will never tank
You're the goat
tyran top
yeah I was fucking RINSING oxi in shadowlands bro (I had double eon and also perma KA from jez and I'm better than him)
What the fuck is KA
kindred
from kyrian druid
Kindred affinity
so he got the 18% crit
LMAO
just whipped my cock out and gave you a hose down
instead of the assassination rogue
Wish that were me tbh
HAHAHAHAHA
(K)Deez (A)Nuts
Real
Throwing

put my thumb over it like a garden hose to get more water pressure
Gremlin energy
whispyr trying to build sexual tension to get me to break my fast before sunset
oh true
Were. you NL?
Their alts if you want to try message em
Wtf you tryna gobble?
I miss zj already
First thing I hear about a52
Is the fucking crafting cartels
That hit inmem
I miss dalaran
I like MG
I was on MG for a bit
I just have to worry about guy doing his shuffle
During sofo

Iām on thrall. Never been here. But somehow my name wasnāt taken
I took it
how do you have something I already have
Sheesh fr
Lmao
outlaw brain
I mean it WAS taken
Like months ago
But when I decided to move w the new guild I tried it for fun and wham. It wasnāt taken
Guess I got lucky
Most my characters on thrall
But someone has the name I want for my rogue so
I didnāt really win

bro on god @gusty mirage that kara haunts me
patch notes bestie
I think explo got nerfed
you yelled at me
for no reason
Hp nerf 30%?

I'll rejoin in a sec, Work Talk
I'm sorry friend š¦ I get frazzled when I tank and I shouldn't have taken it out on you

brother you know not what you ask
Itās okay. I got an idea

I actually can't tonight - I have a lot of work to do before Month End
Thatās okay
also I'm 407
Maybe Iāll turn it into a 24 or 25 TJS for you

Be kinder to urself jez (this is not a veiled hate message)
me, automatically assuming it's a veiled hate message
but I get what you mean 
I mean sure; but thatās why I had to add it 

š¦¦š¦¦š¦¦
nice to see outlaw 4piece doing their top damage in testing, very pog
Its doing alot more than it should, its bugged
I love the ones that love me
(Or the ones who are good ppl)

That's why testing exists my guy
idk
only reasonable solution is to have all 3 specs have similar power level 2 set
ily bro
Ily2 bro
True and real mister warcieft
Based as always

Even General? lol

Nice shirt homie
IT HAPPEND
POG
Proud of you
Did you prog as assa or sub swap?
Iām just starting raz prog and I think itās fine with new ring. I just hate sub fuck
Gratz dooooood
Congrats ct nerfer
Congrats homie
Sad. Logging on raz sucks now that half the logs from 10.0.7 had arcane gem pre fix
SHESH
I stayed assa for my prog. GZ on ur kill m8!! š
?
New raid is fucking amazing
A lot of raid stuff happening in the fights, good for some specs and classes
Possibly assa tier, might be
0 rogue tier 
I stg i hope rogue is REAL bad on some of the fights
But then good for last boss
Like that last one
Zkern or whatever
Dont mind getting dropped for that one
But the flame dog
Now thats a fight
Bro when it got hotfixed and we saw that
We laughed so hard
Also the second boss is a shitshow
i LOVE the fact that they go cc immune at 75% hp
love love love
good stuff
great boss
and if u stun them with a 6 second kidney at 76%
they insta break out of the stun at 75%
=))
great outplay potential
max on stream saying zkrem is S to A tier boss
mf was playing a different boss than me
top 3 worst experiences ive had
and ive been to england

somone never progged pre nerf KT or Sylvanas

Can confirm, I live there
im herbie i only prog nerfed bosses its my thing
i played bloodborne
Or pre nerf stone legion
Close enough
what they dont tell you: when you start bloodborne, it just opens google streetview in london
Pre nerf kt 
Pre nerf kt was a 2 year dps hold
- england.
- lords of dread
- whatever that zkrern boss was
HOLD DPS
Hold
HOLD
HOOOOLD
Sanctum of dps holdnation
TIMING WRONG WIPE IT
True
This tier actually didnt have any bosses that needed to get nerfed to make them decent
Well done bluzzard
That shit was a nightmare
Not too many top 20 raiders here
Shit Iām not top 20 and my group struggled hard
Yeah but the version most guilds killed was the good one
The boss was insanely bugged first 2-3 weeks
Ah
Yeah I remember that
Not from personal experience obvi. But I remember it being bugged p damn bad
Pre nerf argus was rough too
All the cool kids started in shadowlands
Real
Everyone who liked legion disliked SL, but most people who started SL liked it
When u start with shit everything after tastes better
200iq strategy
It was shit for like top 120
I liked SL
Oddly specific, would u happen to raid in 120 wr guild?
aka: now you include seli and like 2-3 other people 
I was around that and we killed it just after the big nerfs
When you had to sac a priest on pull, kite boss, etc
Oh yeah just checked, january 25th looks like they āredesignedā the boss
Kinda crazy that they left the boss in that horrible state for such a long time
But this tier they did well so good job blizzard
Positive vibes only
best tier since sepulcher
Ur a banger
Bangers and mash
bangers+mash
what was that macro people are using for kick for raz?
/targetenemy
/focus
/tar player
/tar focus
/tar boss1
/targetlasttarget
/cast [harm,nodead] (insert kick here)
/tar boss1 ```
thanks
will do.


Youāve changed man
Can cast sequence it, mine is kick, kidney, blind
Stance mod for cheap shot as well (not relevant to sin though)
How
Heās not a real herbie
if I have to do more than kick 1 spark it's not my problem

Hahah, we still afk wait for pushback in P1, might as well do something with globals :)
yeah i was hoping im in middle so someone else can tag mine. but its not the case hah
not much
assassination is big pi
True and real?
big but not big enough to beat pi classes^TM


















