assassination

[earnest remnant]

soup

[balmy condor]

that's a soup

[unreal bear]

congee

i think it's a porridge

[obsidian beacon]

milkshakes

[near valley]

Goldfish crackers and milk

[balmy condor]

don't

[near valley]

The hell

[balmy condor]

don't

[velvet ridge]

https://cuberule.com/

[obsidian beacon]

what if i cry into a bowl of rice crackers is that soup

[gaunt moat]

look at the top right definition

[sweet dawn]

Coffee is my favourite soup

[earnest remnant]

fr

[spice spire]

what is a sink but just a bowl

[earnest remnant]

bowl with a hole

very bad bowl tbh

[near valley]

Not if u plug it

[sweet dawn]

If I put a hole into a bowl, is it now a sink?

[gaunt moat]

if you drink water from a cup. it's justm water
but if you boil it and put in a bowl, it's soup

so a a few steps forward... coffee is in fact soup.

[unreal bear]

spaghetti and meatballs being defined as soup

yea that's gulag

[obsidian beacon]

its a tunnel

[spice spire]

I'm gonna go tank another pug

ya'll wildin

[sweet dawn]

If I plug the hole, is it still a sink? Or now a bowl again

Welcome to... the Twilight Zone

[unreal bear]

come spend the night with me, fella, i'll turn you into a bowl

[near valley]

[balmy condor]

topographically speaking, humans are equivalent to a mug

[obsidian beacon]

real question though. are enchiladas and burritos the same thing

[oak sky]

Bruh

[near valley]

Word?

[obsidian beacon]

i feel that

[earnest remnant]

when humans get a fever, and since we are made out of mostly water

are we a soup?

[oak sky]

Hot dog sandwich

[near valley]

Someone better call Cuphead, cause I'm Mugman now

[spice spire]

I'd slurp a few humans

so maybe

[gaunt moat]

we have too many holes to be a bowl

[spice spire]

burrito = sandwich

[balmy condor]

[earnest remnant]

soup can be in a mug

[gaunt moat]

BUT

[obsidian beacon]

[sweet dawn]

That's deep, man

[near valley]

[gaunt moat]

if you plug up the holes, and leave one, yes, we will be soup

[spice spire]

[obsidian beacon]

is a colander not a bowl?

[unreal bear]

humans are a donut because our digestive tract is a big hole in the middle of us

[spice spire]

Why are you booing me, I'm right

[near valley]

Is would even give u it if u said a burrito is a wrap

[unreal bear]

but i guess donuts can be bowls

[near valley]

But a sandwhich?

[balmy condor]

a colander is a series of bowls separated by space

[unreal bear]

this really is the natural state of #assassination

[near valley]

Is a colander a sink?

[spice spire]

a wrap is a sandwich

[sweet dawn]

What if we're all soup?

[near valley]

Seems more like a Philosophy 101 class

[balmy condor]

a sink and a toilet bowl are the same, and a colander has many holes

so is a colander just a bunch of toilet bowls

[near valley]

Don't u got some pugs to tank?

[spice spire]

waiting on a ready check

[balmy condor]

wait, after I piss

is that a soup

[unreal bear]

yes

[near valley]

If u drink it yes

[gaunt moat]

Correct, we are also technically made out of donut.
https://blog.helix.com/2018/11/national-doughnut-day-sweet-tooth-dna/

[balmy condor]

wait this opens a new argument

is it only a soup if you can drink it

[near valley]

Trueeee

[gaunt moat]

No if he drinks it, it only means he's a depraved individual

[near valley]

No kink shaming here

[balmy condor]

I'm bear grylls

[earnest remnant]

real question

do you chew your soup?

[unreal bear]

some, yes

[spice spire]

[near valley]

Depends

[balmy condor]

brother if it's early enough in the morning I chew my chocolate milk

[gaunt moat]

of course, for better digestion

[near valley]

Is it just liquid?

[balmy condor]

just out of habit

[unreal bear]

italian wedding soup

mmm

[near valley]

What makes it a wedding soup?

[balmy condor]

which italian did the soup marry

[gaunt moat]

I actually got soup in the refrigerator, i might go take some 👀

[near valley]

Is there a groom soup and bride soup?

[gaunt moat]

so i can share soup-pics with you

[unreal bear]

if you really wanna know, it's the ingredients being "married"

weird translation

[near valley]

Ah fair

[balmy condor]

we just call that food

[earnest remnant]

[near valley]

I got some soup as well. Even comes with Tony the Tiger on the front

[earnest remnant]

do you chew a smoothie?

[unreal bear]

it was a novel concept at the time im sure

[near valley]

No it was a soup

[balmy condor]

what came first, the soup or the italian wedding

[unreal bear]

escarole and meat? truly groundbreaking

[near valley]

What does I have to do with books?

[obsidian beacon]

Definitely the soup

Italians weren’t invented until 1939

[balmy condor]

yo true

[unreal bear]

TRUE

[near valley]

Based

[balmy condor]

nothing bad happened in 1930's italy

[unreal bear]

im ashamed that i know the actual dates

before 1861, italians didnt exist

[near valley]

Ofc not cause Italians didn't exist

[spare crow]

👁️ yes we exist

[unreal bear]

modern italians are 1948

[spare crow]

[balmy condor]

"modern italians"

[unreal bear]

they're the new model

[near valley]

[balmy condor]

can we get a new model of americans

[floral torrent]

were they just romans before then?

[unreal bear]

before 1861 or 1948

[balmy condor]

50% less mass shootings
25% more wage equality

[near valley]

I thought we already got em remodeled just 10 years ago

[near valley]

Damn dog

My whole world's been turned upside down

[gaunt moat]

irrefutable evidence.

[near valley]

[unreal bear]

dude fuck AI

[near valley]

Ai can't lie

[gaunt moat]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[near valley]

Delete this

[spare crow]

Wdym delete this has to be pinned on assa channel

[near valley]

[spare crow]

Outlaw players are societal deviants confirmed by AI

[near valley]

True

[gaunt moat]

fuck, he got me.

[earnest remnant]

AYE the ai is smarter than 95% of RH

[near valley]

Ai too scared to say outlaw

[gusty mirage]

95%?

that's overselling

it's like 99%

[earnest remnant]

probably true

[spare crow]

BRUH

[near valley]

Tell the AI to make us a tier set pls

[gusty mirage]

feral druid

there

I answered it for you

[spare crow]

True

[near valley]

Try writing best for damage

[near valley]

Feral is the true Ass rogue

[unreal bear]

kinda based

[gaunt moat]

WELP

[near valley]

Fax

[gaunt moat]

see ya

[near valley]

No fiction

[gaunt moat]

moving to #outlaw

[balmy condor]

bro why is this actually better than our tier set

[near valley]

Can't wait to use my fan of knives and blade flurry burst window

[unreal bear]

AI is the future

[spare crow]

Confirmed smarter than 99.9% of RH

[near valley]

CHatGPT ain't looking for hands

[unreal bear]

and it procs ring

[balmy condor]

we won't have ring in 10.1 bozo

[near valley]

Not with that attitude

[unreal bear]

😿

[gaunt moat]

@balmy condor when discord embeds a chatGPT bot, you're out of a job

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[near valley]

Also I like how the tier says fuck doing bleeds or posion

[balmy condor]

I think I'm pretty safe

[near valley]

We fire now bitches

[unreal bear]

now im just re-rolling pretend tier bonuses

sounds busted depending on proc rate

[gusty mirage]

now do you guys believe me

when I say they use chatgpt to come up with balancing decisions?

[unreal bear]

i never doubted you

[spare crow]

They're preparing a massive rogue patch to address all our issues and give us better tiersets

Just trust me bro

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-you-smoke-crack-dont-you-scold-lean-on-me-push-gif-11787586

[gaunt moat]

I asked him to make a set based on CT and rupture:

[gusty mirage]

still a better tier set than the one we have

[unreal bear]

it's actually pretty good at generating believable nerfs too

[near valley]

Even the bot can't say

[gaunt moat]

made up an AoE spell for sin:
Introducing new or modified abilities that deal AoE damage, such as a poison cloud that lingers in an area or a chain of blades that bounce between enemies.

[unreal bear]

careful you'll get hired

[near valley]

Dw it's all a joke guys

The real set isn't released yet

[gaunt moat]

having chained blades bounce between enemies with mark with bleeds sounds fucking awesome tbh.

[near valley]

Chained how?

Like God of war type beat?

[gaunt moat]

yeah

[near valley]

Won't say no to that

[unreal bear]

"Bleed Bomb: The rogue plants an explosive device that, when triggered, causes a burst of bleeding damage to all enemies within a certain radius. The bleed effect can spread to additional enemies within the blast radius."

lmfao

yeah you werent kidding

they 100% use this

[near valley]

Wtf lmao

[gaunt moat]

Zero, being carried is not a defense

[near valley]

Built different

[unreal bear]

big

[misty kernel]

Proves i got carried ❤️

[gaunt moat]

I'm joking 😛

but since you're here

can in convince you to add border thickness = 1 to your WA? it'll look a lot nicer

[misty kernel]

[unreal bear]

well said

[unreal bear]

i have a real question

you going back to cs at all?

[misty kernel]

to play cs2 probably with friends but idk if i wanna commit to cs competitive again so much stress not needed with hate on rogue discord KEKW its too much 🤣

[unreal bear]

lol yeah makes sense

i didnt realize you were the same zerocool on c5

[misty kernel]

it is me

was making it to minors with PUGS TOO 😄

[marble hemlock]

Did you just reply to a post from 3 days ago?

[misty kernel]

i was not in rogue discord i never was 😄

just got msgs that i have so much hate so i came to spread love in return

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-welcome-dr-evil-come-gif-17033528

[marble hemlock]

Sir, it says you joined the discord a year ago.

[gaunt moat]

man, that makes my joke look like i was trying to be an ass to you 😂
it was meant 100% ironically just to be clear haha

[misty kernel]

yes but i was never in it reading , checking msgs until 1 month ago i get sceenshot about talks on me i just got my access to write 20 min ago

[misty kernel]

it have to be this way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=310Cc6tOirk&ab_channel=Zerocool

[gaunt moat]

@marble hemlock
What is this

[marble hemlock]

weakauras that look like they were made by a 6y old who you handed a box of crayons but because you ran outof money you only had like 8 colors

aka mine

made them like 7y ago or smth

[gaunt moat]

😂

[marble hemlock]

served me well

[gaunt moat]

You're like asmongold. endless resources, sleeps on a mattress he found in the street.

[marble hemlock]

id rather make my own weakauras, even if they look shit, than copy someone elses and having to deal with any potential fallout of making changes to them

[gaunt moat]

But I like how you adapted things that changes since 7 years ago like SBS by just sticking a huge icon randomly around it

[marble hemlock]

at least with mine i know exactly what will and will not break

[gaunt moat]

How are you tracking ER? i saw no indication

[unreal bear]

[gaunt moat]

I fully expect him to say "i remember that i did 2, 3 and 4"

[unreal bear]

i used something similar as an addon but at least the colors make sense

snd always yellow

[gaunt moat]

Help me convince him to change the texture of his bars to be flat at least

[unreal bear]

dont let them shame you seliathan

[north basin]

u actually came here to reply on my message? no one hates u, we just have friendly chat here)

[steel ridge]

Whispyr is on the brink if insanity because of you, zerocool

[sudden canyon]

cooked or cracked?

(2) Whenever you use Rupture or Crimson Tempest, the duration of Garrote on the target is increased by 2 seconds. Garrote increases nature damage done to the target by 30%.

(4) Whenever you use Rupture or Crimson Tempest on a target affected by Garrote, you have a 20% chance to trigger a "Poison Bomb" effect on the target that deals damage to nearby enemies based on the number of combo points spent on Rupture or Crimson Tempest.

[gaunt moat]

is this more chatGPT?

[balmy condor]

I got bigger issues than zero spamming keys

[earnest remnant]

like sleep depravation

[oak sky]

[balmy condor]

I went to bed at 7am yesterday

Was fine

Errr

Today

Well no

Yesterday

[steel ridge]

[earnest remnant]

its 8:30 in the morning for me right now

[balmy condor]

It’s passed midnight

[sudden canyon]

could make the poison bomb effect dmg flat (split between) but big so that it doesnt giga scale in aoe but still cranks in st when it procs.

[earnest remnant]

ive been awake for 10 hours

🙂

[steel ridge]

Cracked borrowed power for aoe, useless in ST

[sudden canyon]

yea i was thinking you could balance it for aoe by making the poison bomb hit hard but have a flat split dmg in aoe

[steel ridge]

Not even remotely balanced

[sudden canyon]

but yea youd essentially be doing single target dmg to every mob it procs on in something like an AA tree room

except instead of env procing pb its ct

and you wouldnt press env outside of single target unless its to refresh snd

which is prolly nobueno, on the other hand pressing rupture feels better than just the energy from it coz it can proc pb again.

i like the idea of being able to extend garrote by a couple of seconds with a dr so that you cant inf extend it but that you can at least extend to like 45sec if youre pumping out finishers

rupture not being extended also doesnt feel as bad if you can proc pb with it.

[gaunt moat]

Every time i try to learn sub I just want get too confused and I hate that spec. I can't do it 😬

I need a coach

[steel ridge]

do the mage tower, you will learn it there

dunno whats confusing about sub tho, it’s pretty straight forward

[gaunt moat]

Not sure if that's the best place to learn from zero. but it's a good idea to improve later.

[steel ridge]

i learned warrior there

only began to level it after the magetower was done

[gaunt moat]

What's confusing? Pressing the right buttons at the right time. aka everything.

i get overloaded

[steel ridge]

It makes you figure out how things work

It was trial by fire for sure

[gaunt moat]

i did it in legion

[steel ridge]

But i learned to use the entire kit by necessity

[earnest remnant]

it kinda depends on which part about sub you are focusing on, because with this iteration of sub, there are so many different rules depending on target count

[gaunt moat]

The one for rasz, so ST

[earnest remnant]

single target sub rogue is quite straight forward in terms of what to press

the nuances start comming in when you add more targets

[gaunt moat]

I got to like:
shadowstrike. gloomblade. rupture.
shadowdance => c̸̋̊h̴͛̊a̶͊̏o̴͒͋s̵̑̏

[steel ridge]

dance is the muscle memory part

fit your 8 globals in there

[gaunt moat]

yeah. now i'm at the point i just choke.

[earnest remnant]

on pull you would go
Strike-Sstorm-rupture-dance+strike-evis-strike-(gloom if on 4-5cp)-sectech-strike-strike-evis

[steel ridge]

+blades

[earnest remnant]

and the dance sequence is just repeated every single time

well blades and SoD is just fire whenever

[gaunt moat]

why sstorm on ST?

[earnest remnant]

for find weakness

[steel ridge]

Wouldn’t you vanish strike evis after sectec?

[earnest remnant]

you dont have that for every dance do you?

its a generalization

[steel ridge]

Yeah gotcha

[gaunt moat]

why is SnD not part of opener?

[earnest remnant]

you get that from strike

from stealth

[steel ridge]

premed

A talent that assa needs aswell

[gaunt moat]

na-huh. SnD just needs to be removed.

[steel ridge]

Should be in class tree

but class tree is a hot mess

[gaunt moat]

I read on reddit that it's extremely well designed... so i dunno what to tell you

[steel ridge]

Reddit hivemind is hunter main

[storm onyx]

I cried when Prep and Premed were taken off :/

[oak tangle]

just let us cast snd with 0 cp. so assa can hit it before pull

[storm onyx]

Just remove it as before since they had accepted the issue

[steel ridge]

that implies we actually get changes

meanwhile demo locks got some last minute buffs on top of buffs 😄

[gaunt moat]

Just last minute fix to make sure sin will be at bottom of overall.

But tbh they kinda needed it.

I'm just worried about how ring is gonna affect meters.

[steel ridge]

i think demo will be op on reset

but thats just feelcraft, 40% more dmg on wild imps sounds mental tho

[gaunt moat]

I get the destro buff. Demo not sure why.

[oak tangle]

they werent played in rwf

need buff

[steel ridge]

destro buff is just obligatory

theres no patch without a destro buff

[gaunt moat]

They has worse damage than sin in raid.
But from what i understood, that's mostly because the fights suck for them. Too much movement.

[steel ridge]

really?

[oak tangle]

i was being facecious

they werent multi stacked and topping meters in rwf

need buff

[steel ridge]

my demo warlock is ilvl 380 and does like 60k overall, which is giga nuts

pre buffs 😄

[oak tangle]

2 out of the 3 expacs i have played, at least 2 of the warlock specs were in the top 3

[gaunt moat]

I can't wait for the day when we'll get a buff.
And we'll colectivly just say "that's it?"

[oak tangle]

DF is an anomaly

[steel ridge]

affliction currently up there for ST

destro dominating cleave fights as always

demo is just unkillable turret

demo is dominating diurna logs even now

i´d warlock is in a good spot given its versatility, utility and immortality

[oak tangle]

i won't link the pics for sake of spam, but outside of uldir, there was never a warlock spec ranked lower than 8th

in bfa and SL

[royal lantern]

everyone here nows that

[steel ridge]

yeah that statistic is well known 😄

warlock is simply the safest main to have

its always needed because gateways and healthstones are bonkers

[oak tangle]

even utter trash damage and you still get a spot for summon cookeis and teleport

[steel ridge]

and its always tuned well

[royal lantern]

if you 100% want a safe raidspot and dont care about what you actually play

warlock and mage

[steel ridge]

problem is, warlock is so ridiculously easy to play

so theres many

[oak tangle]

i've never touched demo, is it easier or harder than the other 2

[steel ridge]

destro isnt particularly hard, but neither is demo

affliction probably the "hardest" since you actually have to watch dots instead of just spam builder spender

[royal lantern]

destro is a 2button spec

demo was very hard once, but is not anymore, its just a turret

afflock rn is probs the "hardest"

[steel ridge]

demo is just fun for the sake of turretting the hell out of everything

and then bombing 20 imps into a pack for millions of damage

[oak tangle]

turret in the sense that everything has a cast time?

[steel ridge]

no, you get alot of instant spells

but turrent in the sense that you bunker down in the middle of your demons

and let them unleash hell in an endless barrage of fel bolts

[oak tangle]

ah, i mean i'm always happy for instant casts

[steel ridge]

ofc you lose alot for moving, but its not that you hardcast all the time

[oak tangle]

my only gripe with arcane mage was as such basically, but they have ways to deal

quaking weeks while i was first palying it made me super mad

[royal lantern]

arcane mage is also the only caster in the game that is mostly hardcasting 🙂

[steel ridge]

destro is hardcasting almost all the time

[oak tangle]

and long cast time at that

[steel ridge]

but its part of the flair of chaos bolt

big cast, big dam

[oak tangle]

i know that having a double damage button is pretty strong already, but i dislike havoc being on the gcd

[subtle tundra]

microwave

[royal lantern]

mircowawe

[steel ridge]

havoc is not on the gcd is it?

pretty sure its not

ok it actually is

[high pebble]

what poison combo do u guys use for m+?

[royal lantern]

amp+deadly is the only poison combo that exists

[high pebble]

was doing it correctly then lol ty

[gaunt moat]

Wounding + Instant

[gaunt moat]

@safe matrix your comment was the best

[green juniper]

another 20 down

dont judge my keybinds tho

[gaunt moat]

grats

[spice spire]

Grats homie

[subtle tundra]

Even I don't have that! Gz

It's a toughie

[storm belfry]

Gm gamers

[spice spire]

GM

[uncut echo]

Gm best spec enjoyers

[spice spire]

Ur right, we’re all bdk enjoyers here

[storm belfry]

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

I have to convince our GL to drag me through some 20s

[dry bough]

hi, where is ass 10.1 simc?

[spice spire]

[gaunt moat]

sim yourself right now. that's exactly where it is.

[viscid spear]

[gaunt moat]

I've done all 20s with pugs. it might be a little harder to find a group now, you'll probably have to use your own key. but it's very doable with pugs 🙂

[spice spire]

He said this because I’m his GL

[gaunt moat]

oh.

tough luck.

[tacit otter]

ye if you use your own keys its very much doable:) if you dont go past ~24 its really easy

[gaunt moat]

Going above 20

[viscid spear]

tbf I'm lazy (conceal your shock please).

[spice spire]

I’ve done exactly a 21 because it was stupid free

[viscid spear]

SBG?

[spice spire]

Yeah

20 AA > 21 SBG

[viscid spear]

Fort or Tyr?

[tacit otter]

azure with the new timer is also absolutely free

[viscid spear]

More time to ogle Sindy

[spice spire]

Fort

I did azure tyran pre timer change

[viscid spear]

Best I have are 17s on SBG & AA

[spice spire]

Bdk has a 17 sbg

That scares me since he’s only 401 🙂

[gusty mirage]

It shouldn’t

You’re an absolute gamer

[brazen zodiac]

:D

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

That’s a lie but I appreciate it

[gusty mirage]

Not a lie

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

You’re a good player

[brazen zodiac]

wym quake ur so cool

[gusty mirage]

Man, maybe I should sleep more than 3 hours more often

[brazen zodiac]

every morning when i make oat meal i think of u

[gusty mirage]

I didn’t even feel the need to be mean to quake

[brazen zodiac]

quakeroats

[gusty mirage]

And he teed it up for me too

[oak tangle]

my mistweaver +3'd a 17 sbg, to have a 20 nok. i'm 399 and dont know how to heal

[gaunt moat]

Have you seen the halls of infusion m+?
the way it is right now, it's the new SBG

i expect it to get buffed a lot

[gusty mirage]

Well they ruined freehold

So we need one free dungeon at least

[gaunt moat]

I've only ever done freehold in dungeon finder, so what did they ruin?

[gusty mirage]

So before you could skip the last 2 trash packs before Harlan

Now they pull when the boss is pulled

[brazen zodiac]

lmao

[gusty mirage]

So you need to feign/vanish/invis them

[brazen zodiac]

gottem

[oak tangle]

the TJS treatment

[gusty mirage]

They also nerfed the motivational shout in those trash packs that used to kill the mobs

There was a strat in bfa where you’d get a rogue to pull them and then use the fences to fuck with mob routing

So the rogue could solo those packs

They’d just die before ever getting to the rogue

[marble hemlock]

Good

That shit was stupid

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that one’s fine

[oak tangle]

they probably work just like NO mobs though, where you can pull them before boss then meld

[gusty mirage]

But the last 2 packs pulling with boss is cringe

[marble hemlock]

I mean it's just like nokhud

[gusty mirage]

Also cringe

Nokhud is my least favorite dungeon ever

I’d rather do alliance siege on tyran week

[oak tangle]

the only 20's i'm yet to time are nok and AV cause i hate them and can't be bothered trying

[gusty mirage]

I’d rather do seat without a boomkin

Nokhud is legit the worst fucking dungeon I’ve ever played

In any game ever

[gaunt moat]

This season my least favorite to do was HoV. Mostly because I have a habit of standing in the mobs frontals.

[brazen zodiac]

y u hate offensive oxi

too long/the flying?

[gusty mirage]

Some of those frontals are legit what seems like 180 degree cones

[oak tangle]

how many deaths on average before you rage mark the tank with a skull

[gusty mirage]

It’s just an annoying dungeon from start to finish

The trash is miserable

The bosses are miserable

[royal lantern]

nokund feels like it takes 20years

[gusty mirage]

And you have to fly around forever

[brazen zodiac]

yeah the constant mounting and dismounting is kinda annoying

i like the idea/theme of it

[gusty mirage]

It’s a cool mythic 0, terrible key

[oak tangle]

nokhud would be fine (maybe) if trash was tuned that way, or bosses were tuned that way, not both

[brazen zodiac]

yeah

the 2 ghost bosses feel like a mythic boss

[gusty mirage]

Everything has a giant area of effect on the ground

[brazen zodiac]

like theyre not hard but zz

[gusty mirage]

Running out of the trash pack constantly to avoid aoe is just annoying

[brazen zodiac]

i like that 6 second aoe cast that big mob does

fun

[gusty mirage]

And then you get to the graveyard and they decided to put these things on hills

Where the edges of the circle clip into the ground

Like bruh

[brazen zodiac]

yeah thats a goofy

[oak tangle]

crawth bird aoes and stairs tho

[gusty mirage]

For anyone who missed freehold the first time around

For the giants

[brazen zodiac]

i never played bfa idk what freehold is but

[gusty mirage]

The stomp aoe circle is slightly bigger than the visual

[brazen zodiac]

ima go check it on me ally soon for funzies

[gusty mirage]

[gaunt moat]

I don't dislike NO that much, except the casters before 2nd boss. constantly casting, non-stunnable, and if you miss an interrupt it's almost certain death

[brazen zodiac]

that doesnt seem like a positive thumbs up

im spooked

[gusty mirage]

Just run out the extra yard

[oak tangle]

take a stealth class to summon boss while you trash

[gusty mirage]

Piggy piggy

[brazen zodiac]

been killing these rares every 30 minutes for 14 hours now still no essence

plz blizzard

[gusty mirage]

Should be easier now with interact key

Tbh

[oak tangle]

oath

[viscid spear]

I like CoS, hate AV

[ember mural]

You could bind an interact with target key in bfa, I did it back then

[oak tangle]

Cos had a distinct advantage of already being a dungeon

[viscid spear]

[oak tangle]

just saying if you can pick a banger dungeon, then it's got a good chance of being better than a brand new one you make

[storm belfry]

Oh man what did I miss

[storm belfry]

Oh I should’ve kept reading

[oak tangle]

fixedhold

forcedhold

probs fits better

[gusty mirage]

Can’twaittogetoneshotbyfirstboss hold

[storm belfry]

Isn’t there some trinket we will farm there

[gusty mirage]

Harlan’s dude

Dice

[storm belfry]

Loaded dice

Yeh bruv

[oak tangle]

let's farm outlaw thematics

[viscid spear]

[storm belfry]

Man what a good time to main swap amiright

[gusty mirage]

Banger trinket tho

[viscid spear]

absolutely no good FroMage weapons in the dungeon pool

[storm belfry]

Sadge

There’s quite a few good things for rdruid

[oak tangle]

i cant remember if UR had weapon for us or if that was dh

[storm belfry]

P sure I’d have to farm neltharius

For the box trinket thing

Spoils. That’s it

Iirc memz I think UR has a dagger

[oak tangle]

i think it was dh now, it had special effect

[storm belfry]

I was playing Diablo 4 last night, as rogue, and I just thank god that fan of knives isn’t a frontal cone ability on WoW

Granted it’s a bow to use the ability on D4. But it made me think

[storm onyx]

Hold that thought …

[storm belfry]

[celest ruin]

is icon bad for m raz? or is grieftorch even on heroic version superior for shields?

[spice spire]

Grief gains value during prog because deaths happen

Don’t think icon particularly bad tho

[celest ruin]

not being used much

[green juniper]

is hov 20 doable

[spice spire]

Yes

[green juniper]

I feel like odyn going to feel my ass

[spice spire]

That’s because grief + box nutso

Feint

[green juniper]

let me play some ez mode mm hunter to prepare

feels like tetris after rogue

[gusty mirage]

Oh he for sure is

Just let him in

Embrace the ass play

[solar hare]

its a fist wep, outlaw dh and ww all want it afaik

[green juniper]

[gusty mirage]

[storm belfry]

Yes. I did 21 it was fun

[storm belfry]

Oh I see my memory is bad then

[solar hare]

its just poxstorm from plaguefall without secondaries

[amber niche]

@gusty mirage can u tell me, how are u so cool? :)

[gray crest]

maybe hes born with it

[uncut echo]

Maybe it's Maybelline

[spice spire]

Constructed in a different manner

[gaunt moat]

Assembled uniquely

[storm belfry]

[gusty mirage]

I got lessons from you

[vague widget]

Wholesome chat.

[amber niche]

wtf

habibro

u get the pi now

we don't tell jet

[gusty mirage]

I’m playing sub now

[royal lantern]

i thought you where cool man

but then you changed

[vestal wren]

nice

[gray crest]

just ask tiny for summer

[gusty mirage]

I just want the boss to die

[storm belfry]

[vestal wren]

what was your best pull?

[gray crest]

1.7%

[green juniper]

one round sin attempt and its dead

[vestal wren]

1.7% O.O

should be down soon then

[thorn fjord]

They got it Monday

[storm belfry]

True

[amber niche]

betrayer

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-sorry-cat-sad-cat-gun-gif-15742969

[gusty mirage]

1.7 after it healed once

I was free

[gusty mirage]

You started PIing a hunter over me when I was playing assassination

And I’m the betrayer???

[vestal wren]

i am sorry :/

but it means you will kill it soon, so its just about the extra week you need to wait

[gusty mirage]

we're overtime raiding monday

hopefully it dies

[steel ridge]

how many hours do you usually raid a week?

[ebon notch]

He raids in 24 hours a week

Hardcore

[vestal wren]

[gusty mirage]

9

[storm belfry]

Oxi, The Betrayer

New end boss

I think I’ve decided. I will leave healing behind and main rogue. (At least for next patch)

[steel ridge]

how many pulls on dragon?

[royal lantern]

too many

[gusty mirage]

317 so far?

shoulda died at like 305

[steel ridge]

jeez

[storm belfry]

[gusty mirage]

this was thursday night

sooo

[steel ridge]

oh my god

thats distusting

[gusty mirage]

the 1.7% was a kill

we got it down to like 2.6%

it healed

got it back down to 1.7%

[copper hazel]

thats a keyboard slam over the mic pull

[gusty mirage]

honestly we were gaming

it shoulda died

we had 3 pulls in p3 prior to that

first time we entered p3 with everyone alive tho

[steel ridge]

and then it all fell apart?

[gusty mirage]

nah one of our tanks was fucking something up

every 3 tank mechanics we were getting chunked for like 70% of our health

lmao

we figured it out though

[steel ridge]

i am praying for another set of nerfs man xD

[amber niche]

im not

its not terrible to do

i hate healing it because now all im doing is just pushing dps as a healer

[amber niche]

ah

fbi say no more

[storm belfry]

[subtle kiln]

what was it?

[gray crest]

No more

[amber niche]

LMFAO

ROUJIN

[vague widget]

Based on it being Raz and a phase 3 tank issue I'd say not mitigating enough or sharing the love with the other tanks beam increasing the damage dramatically

[viscid spear]

[sweet dawn]

Just a bit of crit

[storm belfry]

[gusty mirage]

yeah he mitigated 2

but it was always the third on him

he's just gonna amz it

should be fine

we'd just get slapped for 70% of our health

we were taking 5x the damage people normally get

[vague widget]

Had a bear once try to take two. Went about as awful as you can imagine. Being a big spell damage beam.

[heavy haven]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[rugged torrent]

Just confirming that I've got this right after reading the FAQ:

1. Use Puzzle Box with Deathmark
2. Hold exsang and Puzzle box for a minute to sync with the next deathmark?

[grim jay]

yes yes

[rugged torrent]

Thank you! Would I continue to hold for the 8 min deathmark? Or just on CD after the 4 min one

[trail tree]

depends on fight length

[grim jay]

if you know you lose a cast if you dont use it on CD you can use it on CD, but most people delay for DM and if you dont know or dont want to think about if you lose a cast you just delay aswell

[echo heath]

Look at these people with puzzle boxes

Must be nice

[uncut echo]

Just get it

Idk

[wise meteor]

The puzzle box is great. But also I hate using it lol

[viscid spear]

idk, I have a Feather and Eye

[strange python]

Are you ranged soaking tornadoes? I wound up with 28 stacks (and then died) on our kill cause they just stand there

[jade abyss]

Have we next season a trinket like puzzle box or wethstone that grant us a lot of mastery?

[limber walrus]

there is the Halls of Infusion Trinket that has Mastery

[sweet dawn]

And a big pirmary stat boost

[runic hinge]

I got a puzzle box a few weeks ago finally. Did some 2’s for bonus valor and then the next time I went into AA after upgrading one dropped with leech

[storm belfry]

rogue feather?

[spice spire]

Ash is a filthy mage main

[storm belfry]

[strange python]

Same exact thing but avo

[strange python]

Next season we have a trinket that rerolls you to sub.

[neon kindle]

hows the uwu spec doin today

[balmy condor]

[uncut echo]

[strange python]

Don't leave us

[oak sky]

[balmy condor]

[strange python]

Okay taking that as a yes that you're not leaving

[oak sky]

hes about to go to war

and i don't know if he's gonna see you again, see you again

[balmy condor]

I’ve committed for 10.1

10.2 might be a wait for 11.0 angle

That’s the current idea

[gaunt moat]

10.2 is the big assassination rework where exsang is gonna be removed. for sure. trust me.

[oak sky]

all the more reason to not play 10.1 at all

at least not on rogue

[strange python]

Warrior patch

[oak sky]

nah im good

[slim drift]

Anyone try feral? How's dps rotation?

[strange python]

Warrior looks cracked.

[oak sky]

possibly any other melee is more fun than warrior

and you're judging before tier and tuning are finalized

[strange python]

Warrior is the free-est rank 99 ever. Spec is a joke.

Every tier is a warrior tier

Warrior is just melee warlock.

[slim drift]

I was thinking about m+ stuff, and how the heck does feral have, typhoon, vortex, as many stuns as rogue, a free stun, incap roar... Maybe more stuff I don't even know?

[oak sky]

druid

different classes have benefits

rogue has tricks, is invincible, can avoid mechanics with vanish, has cloak and evasion, and like 4 single target stops

and shroud

druid has all that stuff you said and crazy off heals

its just toolkits

[slim drift]

I just feel like cheap shot/kidney shot are a bit expensive to press for what they are nowadays

[oak sky]

[slim drift]

Iron wire is great but you don't really have it on demand without loosing deeps

[lucid birch]

Sup

[spice spire]

what the fuck is up with iron wire? a 6 second silence??? not even on gcd, no cast time, just baked into your main damage ability. seriously, rogue balancing is just ridiculous. Not only that but it works in AOE too? you know locks have to actually cast shadowfury for a 2 second stop? you get literally triple that for free

[oak sky]

if you have $10 and you buy two cokes for 10 minutes and burgers, now the first coke only last 2.5 minutes then you spend less to burgers and buy another coke, still $10. The difference transferred to burger difference not money wise

[slim drift]

The irony is that iron wire is gonna get nerfed if/when assas becomes the dominant m+ spec

It should show up on the healing meters too

Freaking massive hps against all the random "shoot" spammers

[oak sky]

iron wire is a DR

[slim drift]

Some drs show up on hps nowadays I think

Like pain supp maybe? Not sure

On like details

[balmy condor]

[flint ridge]

Whats new assass rogue people?

[oak sky]

nothing since 2010

[flint ridge]

😦

[gaunt moat]

Last news were 3 months ago when they said they'll rework exsanguinate

[oak sky]

more like 4 months at this point

[gaunt moat]

maybe they kinda forgot.

[oak sky]

nah

for sure not

theyre just choosing to act like an entire class is fine

[gaunt moat]

hard to remember things from so long ago

[oak sky]

i definitely feel like we're most likely being actively ignored right now

[gaunt moat]

It's also impossible to have any discussions about this with anyone who's not a sin player. They just keep saying "you have 2 more specs to choose from, there's always at least one that's good".

[oak sky]

the class as a whole has problems

[gaunt moat]

I think sub, except some bugs, is in an alright place.

[oak sky]

lol

ur fried

[gaunt moat]

what's the issue with sub

[oak sky]

these circled nodes

dont exist

and from what i understand most of them are pretty unpopular and/or boring too

[twilit python]

and the 27 point class tree

dont forget

[oak sky]

well he did say bugs

and this isnt even mentioning fw being a 0% talent for sub

which bricks double dance

[twilit python]

yeah fw isnt a bug its just

ass

[oak sky]

and then like the class tree just fundamentally has a lack of choice

which we knew since beta but nobody cares

[gaunt moat]

I'll be honest, i don't really care that much about the choice if the current build is fine/plays fine.
it should improve, but not as high prio if i'd compare to sin issues.

[oak sky]

and we watch countless specs get sweeping reworks to their core passives and get cool new effects while we're stuck with what we have AND have talents that are a buggy mess 2 patches after launch

[vast forum]

Some of those will exist with next tier set

[oak sky]

[oak tangle]

people's interaction with rogues are thus:
vs them in pvp and they die > "rogue op"
vs them in pvp and they kill rogues > "good fuck rogues"
raid with them and they do good damage > spec is fine
dont raid with them cause they do shit damage > brain doesn't register them as existing
raid with then and they do shit damage > "good fuck rogues"

and to top this off outlaw or sub is almost always nearly good enough or just shy of competitive M+ play. so assassin gets lumped in and assumed to be a good spec

[north basin]

I see in majority of parses people using vers flask, and not crit flask, why is that

[oak tangle]

vers flask gives mroe stat

[north basin]

Vers giving 750 and crit 1k+ no?

[oak tangle]

so even if vers not worth as much, because you get more it is a net gain

what flask are you talkign about?

[north basin]

The one u need to craft in the dungeon

Forgot name, gives alot of crit

[oak tangle]

corrupting rage?

[north basin]

Ye prolly

[oak tangle]

i mean sure use it, but when you die or your healers get mad at you, swap to tepid vers

[north basin]

))

[woeful meteor]

Rage doesnt have enough uptime on most fights to make it worth using

[north basin]

Wdym uptime?

[oak tangle]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[woeful meteor]

When the rage effect triggers you loose the crit

[north basin]

Lol.... u loose its effect? Like rly?.... wtf

[woeful meteor]

If it was just some extra smg you would use it

[north basin]

Dumb blizzars wiyh their misleading tooltipa

[oak tangle]

it reads straight forward

After suffering 100% of your health in damage, you are afflicted with Overwhelming Rage "instead"

[north basin]

Its misleading... it states u take damage after recieving 100% of ur hp. I understood it like "u take some damage from time to time*......

Not u completely lose 1k crit..lol

For that period

[oak tangle]

it literally states that the buff it gives you is replaced

[north basin]

This word instead kinda puzzlebox inside of description. Didnt pay attention before.

[oak tangle]

there are a good few fights where it will take a good length of time to go through 100% of your hp though

[north basin]

Iam quite sure many read and understand it same as i do.

Well i spent many points and gold in alchemy for this flask.. sad

[oak tangle]

you should go into next tier using corrupting rage, the new rogue trinket and the old static charged scale

really make your healer rage

[north basin]

Hehe

[gaunt moat]

Emo build

tbh, kinda every sin rogue now.

[vestal wren]

they are fairly popular in pvp tho

[royal lantern]

aka 3people use them

[drifting cosmos]

sub is S tier, what do you mean bugs, everything is intended

[royal lantern]

gloombladegloombladegloombladegloombladegloombladegloombladegloomblade

[subtle tundra]

did assa get buffed yet

[drifting cloud]

for sure

[gaunt moat]

Any day now

[green juniper]

We need that witcher meme, guy tell us to fuck off

[vestal wren]

__S__ubtlety is S tier

__A__ssassination is A tier

__O__utlaw is O tier

[subtle tundra]

S(hit) tier

[subtle tundra]

A(ss) tier

[vestal wren]

O(megalul) tier?

[subtle tundra]

yesssssssssssssssss

cause we laugh at the outlaw

[trail tree]

another day of hopelessly checking wowhead for a different 10.1 tier bonus

[storm onyx]

i doubt it will be changed, I guess they believe they kill 2 birds with 1 stone there. 4 set is quirky really tho, they want to avoid burst for sure

Lets say the reason is to avoid pvp burst, will they give us survivability back against being trained? meh

[royal lantern]

wanna know how you avoid burst in shity minigame mode?

giving stuff a different multiplier, like they allready do

🙂

[storm onyx]

Yea, I remember all the design reasoning that they wanted to avoid different versions of talents for pvp-pve, which they already do. So some stuff they withhold feels just meaningless.

[royal lantern]

greater invis btw

alter time btw

[regal sable]

both are great

in pve

and pvp

[royal lantern]

thats the thing

[gusty breach]

actually true

[flint ridge]

do i tweak with haste mastery if I find myself getting energy starved? I'm at 40% crit

[subtle tundra]

Stats don't matter. Sim your gear

That's your answer

[weak isle]

Drink more tea

[brazen zodiac]

and water

[gusty breach]

i only choose ilvl when its a bigger number tbf

[storm belfry]

[storm onyx]

Haste you need to see difference is quite high, you need to get used to the Tea usage. Don't spam it, but pace it to prevent flooring

Also don't macro the Tea to Shiv, it will cause you to get through charges needlessly fast

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[storm onyx]

and you will starve

[gusty breach]

diamond hands? any gamestop or any bitcoins to hold as well?

[frosty cedar]

[storm onyx]

god...

not again

[gaunt moat]

Based on reddit, I can assure you, sin actually needs nerfs.

[oak tangle]

i'm currently levelling a warrior in wod, i hope i dont need it

[storm belfry]

Vulpera?

[storm onyx]

Yea, with half sets not working and different power gain paces, of course! meh

you would think ppl going ptr pay attention to stuff

[viscid spear]

I have a Vulpera Warrior too

[storm belfry]

[royal lantern]

"assa will be OP"

https://tenor.com/view/newchallengerapproaching-gif-5221376

3 more enemys during this fight

[subtle tundra]

gahdamn

i need to wear a tank top to feel like a big guy

[brazen zodiac]

LMAO

one sec

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[plain onyx]

hey guys..came back from a long long break since legion tbh and i'm thinking of coming back. my main was an assa rogue and i was wondering if it's still playable in this exp in terms of m+ and raids ❤️ thanks

[gusty mirage]

very much viable, but worse than sub in m+ and any raid fight with a ton of adds

[plain onyx]

hmmm.. thanks a lot

[gusty mirage]

pretty much you're relegated to ST damage in raid

anything requiring cleave you're better off playing outlaw, anything with aoe you're better off playing sub

in m+ it's a lot more work than sub, but you can still do around +22-23 before it becomes a little sketch

[sweet dawn]

Crying rn because a 418 crafted ring sims 1k better than my 415 Melandrus signet

I love my extra auto attack damage, even though it probably isn't a ton

[crude sinew]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[subtle kiln]

signet socketed?

[sweet dawn]

No I've had too many good vaults xD

[subtle kiln]

1k seems excessive

[tardy lance]

Okay

What's the verdict on the new tier set bonuses?

wrong answers only

[vestal wren]

the tier set bonus misses a touch of exsanguinate

[subtle kiln]

[empty hinge]

[eager sorrel]

I like it, 'crimson tempest crits reduce the CD on exsang by 10s' /s

[storm forum]

I'm waiting for 6p: gain the exsanguinate talent

[frosty cedar]

[royal lantern]

Blizzard thought "assa has bad aoe? lets give them a temporary tier set that boosts 2abilitys by 40% that is gone in 6months"

and at the same time you lose 20% more bleed dmg tierset at the same time

aka aoe is the same

and still not fixed at all

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-noodles-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-meme-cat-gif-25953937

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26307682

[brazen zodiac]

this one better

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[strange python]

[brazen zodiac]

aw

thats cute

[royal lantern]

that was me when i saw the 4set effect

[brazen zodiac]

you know if you dont talk about it and dont play WoW anymore, the 4set cant hurt you

its kind of a win for you

just do what i did! read the tier set, talked to whipsyr about maplestory, and then havent stopped playing since :D

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-monkey-disappointed-disappointed-monkey-gif-25631537

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-borann-boys-elite-dangerous-elite-dangerous-pvp-gif-21916308

[gusty mirage]

same

[uncut echo]

Hate when this happens.

[storm belfry]

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

imma need more coffee if im dealing with this fuckery today

[storm belfry]

I just finished mine

[gusty mirage]

mfer be dealing with mental illinois publicly

[gusty mirage]

I'm on cup #3

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[storm belfry]

If I were at home I’d probably be on the same cup

[uncut echo]

Wish I liked coffee

[gusty mirage]

coffee wishes you liked it too

it told me

the coffee speaks to me

[storm belfry]

I started liking it after I found a good creamer for it

[gusty mirage]

creamer

wtf

[uncut echo]

Wife wantd me to get into it

[spice spire]

this mf definitely has mental illinois

[uncut echo]

So we can be basic in Starbucks

[spice spire]

speaking to his coffee

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

[uncut echo]

Coffee speaking to him

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I worked for howie world for 3.5 years

I was as they like to call their wage slave employees

a "partner"

[spice spire]

true

val is being a wagie rn

[gusty mirage]

decent company

shit wages tho

[unreal bear]

barely know you oxi but listening to you ramble on about your life is a highlight for me in this disc

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

wages improved drastically tbf

pretty universal

val went from making like 11 hourly prepandemic, same job makes 22-23 hourly now. Just had to risk death, ain't that bad

[brazen zodiac]

seems reasonable

[gusty mirage]

lmao

I got 32 cents

raises

in 3.5 years

I went from 8 an hour to $8.32

WOW

that was with max raises too

[green juniper]

any buffs yet

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire

and @stuck knoll

[ember mural]

sounds like my raises

[velvet ridge]

poggg!!!!!!

[stuck knoll]

[velvet ridge]

ooo

[gusty mirage]

bro this channel has turned into one of those youtube channels

that collects shit throughout a week

and just lists it in a video at the end of the week

[stuck knoll]

dw

any moment now

some assa changes for 10.1

[gusty mirage]

I hope they nerf it further

so OT 2.0 can thrive

[uncut echo]

Bonk get out of my safe space

[gusty mirage]

listen buddy

you do not get to command bonkles around

I'll cut a mfer for this man