#assassination

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slow marsh
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this would be fun but idk, if you're just chillin in nola its whack, other cities are more fun

balmy condor
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I should call her

spice spire
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Worst case I’ll dislike it, best case, discovery

viscid spear
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Sure, I'd love some E. Coli

lament warren
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what’s with the whole onion

random fossil
slow marsh
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If it's made right you never get sick

gusty mirage
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cause then I get to eat it all

zealous niche
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lmao getting scared of beef tartare

spice spire
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You haven’t steered me wrong yet

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So I’ll trust

gusty mirage
strange python
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Kibbeh is good shit y'all crazy

spice spire
viscid spear
gusty mirage
strange python
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Are you Lebanese?

gusty mirage
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ye

gusty mirage
spice spire
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I can count on my hands the times I’ve been drunk

gusty mirage
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then I have to present it to you the way my countrymen would consume it

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with a nice glass of arak

viscid spear
strange python
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Arak is not good shit

spice spire
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But I’ll have a drink or a beer before every now and then

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Sounds good

gusty mirage
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all I'm saying

random fossil
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anise is never good

strange python
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Lolol

gusty mirage
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is I hope you like black licorice

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because it's fucking awful

gray crest
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Can always wash it down with pilk

gusty mirage
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you add a couple ice cubes to it

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and it turns into a cum color

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it's actually gross as fuck looking

marble hemlock
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peggnog > pilk

strange python
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Arak is like someone had a bottle of absinthe and said "let's make this worse"

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And milky

gusty mirage
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its only milky if you add water

viscid spear
gusty mirage
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otherwise it's like absinthemade from licorice

strange python
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Ouzo is better

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And ouzo is bad

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But I like gin so I guess I can't talk

spice spire
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In college I got drunk off absinthe so I think I’ll live

strange python
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Ever have spirtyus?

spice spire
gusty mirage
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no

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it turns into jizz after you add water or ice cubes

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duh

gray crest
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You can't fool me oxi, that's cum

spice spire
random fossil
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or something

strange python
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Spirytus is polish vodka - 188 proof. Banned in 36 states.

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
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if you want I'll get you a bottle when I go to the homeland this year

strange python
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I say you offer to drink Arak if Oxi will drink spirytus

gusty mirage
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I don't drink KEKL

spice spire
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Oh it’s just another absinthe

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Please no

gusty mirage
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no no

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it's absinthe but worse

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because it tastes like licorice

spice spire
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Miss me with that

strange python
spice spire
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Only monkaW

gray crest
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Y'all ever heard of torpedo juice?

strange python
spice spire
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Mf really just said “give me the rubbing alcohol”

gusty mirage
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idk man

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that's how they eat kibbeh

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they bring out the bottle

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eat some raw meat

strange python
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Illegal in most states

gusty mirage
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and drink until they're fucked up

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I don't make the rules

spice spire
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I do t enjoy getting drunk

gusty mirage
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they also like johnny walker

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so you can substitute that ig

strange python
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You don't enjoy throwing up on a Philadelphia sidewalk?

gusty mirage
strange python
spice spire
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Last time was the most embarrassing SMH
Hadn’t eaten all day at 7pm had like five beers and was wasted SMH

gusty mirage
viscid spear
strange python
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You'd have to go to NH

gusty mirage
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the puke might help north jersey not smell like piss

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they should try it

viscid spear
strange python
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True

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God my whole fucking company lives in Jersey

balmy condor
gusty mirage
marble hemlock
strange python
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It's hard to make jersey smell worse

gusty mirage
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^

strange python
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NYC literally ships their garbage to Jersey

thorn fjord
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They have a name for the mixture of Beer puke and piss on the sidewalks in NO

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Forgot what its called tho

gusty mirage
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its like everyone in north jersey wakes up and just pisses all over the streets

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every single day

viscid spear
spice spire
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Which also taste like shit

strange python
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I'm just glad that no one here lives in Florida tbh

gusty mirage
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@thorn fjord yeah me too

spice spire
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Florida man moment

thorn fjord
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I live in Miami

gusty mirage
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oh

thorn fjord
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Thats sort of Florida

strange python
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

viscid spear
thorn fjord
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But not really

strange python
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Miami sucks tho

gusty mirage
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yo is it normal for people to just film porn in the pools at hotels in miami? or was that just a random event I lucked into? @thorn fjord

strange python
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I don't have an unbiased opinion of Miami. I just hate humidity

gusty mirage
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bro miami's lit

strange python
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I spent two days in Miami and said never again

spice spire
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Wdym

gusty mirage
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2 minutes in

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check out the pool

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there's just a dude filming a porno in one of the pools

thorn fjord
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Bang Bro's is based out of Doral

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and South Beach

strange python
viscid spear
gusty mirage
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I'm more shocked it took the hotel like 20 minutes to send someone

strange python
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Two congresspeople in LA have their constituent offices in the same building as porn casting companies

gusty mirage
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and god knows how long it was going on for before I got there

thorn fjord
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Most of the time they'll just pay 500-600 to use someones house

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Or they just shoot in their own condo's

gusty mirage
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do they clean up after?

strange python
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Shit I went to high school across the street from a pork studio

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Porn

thorn fjord
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Close friend of mine is a cinematographer for bang bro's

thorn fjord
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Like they werent even there

marble hemlock
gray crest
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We went from food, to alcohol to porn in like 30 minutes. Is this a speed run or something

strange python
gusty mirage
strange python
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I bet

thorn fjord
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But he's been in the business for like 12 years now

viscid spear
thorn fjord
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Started as production assistant (basically the splooge cleaner)

strange python
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I went to school with some omega billionaires but the most shocking one was a girl whose mom was a porn star just sitting on like 100mil

gusty mirage
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I bet that did wonders for her self esteem

viscid spear
strange python
thorn fjord
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Who was the mom?

strange python
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I honestly forget

thorn fjord
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pffffft

strange python
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Someone British. From the 70s

thorn fjord
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Oh i wouldnt know then

gusty mirage
strange python
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Do you just....know random porn stars names?

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Florida moment?

thorn fjord
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I mean if they were famous enough to rank in 100mil prob

strange python
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Fair

thorn fjord
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Best thing about Miami is that basically every chick out here can possibly pass for a porno chick

strange python
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But the humidity man

thorn fjord
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That and the weather/food

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I'd take humidity over snow any day

spice spire
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@thorn fjord actually has encyclopedic knowledge of the top 600 on the hub rn.
Measurements, age, marital status. All of it

strange python
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I have Ukrainian and German thick blood and arm hair. I was sweating bullets in miami

spice spire
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Skill issue tbh

thorn fjord
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Yeah it gets really hot... Its in the 90's today lol

strange python
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It gets 118 by me but it's not humid

viscid spear
spice spire
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118 dry is winnable.
105 humid is not

strange python
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Summers in Boston were my limit

spice spire
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Oh it gets so much worse

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I’ve gotten used to it

spice spire
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Val abhors it

viscid spear
strange python
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I fucking hate Brooklyn

viscid spear
strange python
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Oic

thorn fjord
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death by snu snu plz

strange python
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Bro I've had TWO former rogue discorders apply to my guild as non rogues this week wtf

thorn fjord
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quitters

strange python
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Rogue finally good everyone rerolls?

thorn fjord
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If you're rerolling your class at this point and its not a DK you're fucking up

strange python
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DH and warlock

thorn fjord
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I’ve said it before… someone needs to get jpc off the edm 🤣

slow marsh
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!wisphyr

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!whispyer

gusty mirage
slow marsh
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!whispir

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!whyspir

strange python
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!oxi

slow marsh
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!whyspir

gusty mirage
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!whyspsryr

slow marsh
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!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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When do we get a !stabs command

viscid spear
strange python
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Me and varas.

thorn fjord
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Verdict is in

weak plover
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what do we take if we dont want exang in M+ starting tomorrow?

strange python
gusty mirage
thorn fjord
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🤣🤣

weak plover
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lol

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you maybe

gusty mirage
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Just don’t take it

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But take iron wire

strange python
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Iron Wire is bad don't take it

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It does zero damage

weak plover
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Iron wire is sick

gusty mirage
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Essentially if you don’t want exsang you take MA to get iron wire

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And you laugh at the 30% crit that’s irrelevant

spice spire
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Ic iron wire is juice

thorn fjord
viscid spear
thorn fjord
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I would never

strange python
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I'm pretty sure we have to let seli start a line to stab me too then

viscid spear
thorn fjord
viscid spear
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Don't you want to get closer to his heart?

gusty mirage
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no

slim hamlet
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!whypsir

gusty mirage
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I want him to be happy

marble hemlock
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Unlucky

tough gorge
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Assass should get a talent like sub that lets garrotte and rupture spread one more target. The sub talent even tacks on extra shadow dmg but we replace that to have 2 abilities.

nimble tartan
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!mr

slow marsh
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geez what the heck i didn't realize orc is +500 over blood elf. I figured belf was donezo but didn't think it'd be that bad

tough gorge
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Or let CT be part of energy regen gain talent. Talent design is so easy lol.

slim hamlet
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we would probably maybe take it in st then

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so no

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never

slim hamlet
tough gorge
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Why cant ST have CT?

thorn fjord
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Dont make me take CT in ST ever again plz

slim hamlet
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because who the fuck wants to press aoe finisher on st?

thorn fjord
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SL all over again -_-

tough gorge
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It would always be less dmg than envenom, youd never take it or use it anyways

thorn fjord
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Not only were we forced to CT in ST but we also needed to play with MFD

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all the cringe

zinc frost
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Mfd into CT, with exsanguinate caked into tier set and snapshot tech

spice spire
slim hamlet
tough gorge
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ST? CT is weaker ST than envenom

slim hamlet
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no

slim hamlet
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envenom

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which is more

spice spire
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2-Set - Rogue Assassination Class Set 2pc - Envenom also increases your weapon poisons’ damage by 20%.

thorn fjord
royal lantern
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yeha sure

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🙂

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congratz, you just created ANOTHER maintenance thing

tough gorge
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You failed to read

slow marsh
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I'm glad that the CT thing just never ends. It's really interesting conversation

tough gorge
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You quoted something i never said

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You edited the quote now lol

thorn fjord
royal lantern
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i edited cus i made a typo

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sorry

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i will step on lego now for making that mistake

thorn fjord
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lol

tough gorge
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If you paid attention to the convo. It started about aoe damage then turned into st

thorn fjord
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Cant have an aoe dmg convo without mentioning CT

tough gorge
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Thats why thr convo involved CT...

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For aoe

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Are you guys brain damaged wth lol

true rapids
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in SL because of tier set CT was used in ST

thorn fjord
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It was kind of my fault... i interjected with ST CT nonsense

zinc frost
spice spire
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Holy fuck. Just realized the ahegao pfp is done

tough gorge
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I wouldnt even mind weakening CT to underperform in ST if it somehow surpasses envenom, but be clearly good use in aoe rotation.

thorn fjord
spice spire
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Old ruptured lore

flint tusk
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it won't surpass envenom. the buff from envenom is too strong

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not to mention bomb proc

zinc frost
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I changed it to a duck for a while.

robust spear
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What do you guys think the meta will be with AOE in 10.0.5? Carnage and Arterial Precision? Or spec down through poison bomb and pick kingsbane?

spice spire
tough gorge
spice spire
robust spear
thorn fjord
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@robust spear KB finna be dead in the water

flint tusk
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especially given how thing stack interact in sin

true rapids
robust spear
flint tusk
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so won't spec to outlaw or sub. but will completely change class. starege

robust spear
zinc frost
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Some people are ride or die sin one tricks

fading mason
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in 10.5 are we still going to play with kingsbane to burn the shields ?

flint tusk
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i mean nothing wrong with being ride or die sin. just find it odd that outlaw and sub is hell no. but a completely different class is hell yes. just seems odd to me is all

robust spear
zinc frost
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That’s fair

flint tusk
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^^^

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pirate crap i totally get

robust spear
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If it still was combat I'd prolly play it tbh haha

flint tusk
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get rid of that stupid gun and RTB and i'd be alright

robust spear
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^ agreed

slim hamlet
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god

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We just did our first few pulls on spooder

frigid pilot
slim hamlet
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that sucks

frigid pilot
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EVEN SIN

silk bane
slim hamlet
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yea

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I mean rogue has it pretty easy

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but it just sucks man

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it really does

flint tusk
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yeh na outlaw would be put up for adoption

slim hamlet
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specially as a 13 melee roster

silk bane
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LMFAO. that fights just awful dude. like specially as sin

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i have no cds for the 1.30 min ad

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so im just sitting there liek yeah im doing stuff trust me bro.

frigid pilot
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if ur playing sin on spider

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ur actively griefing ur raid

silk bane
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and the stairs are giga cringe too sometimes like oh yeah theres a tornado at the end of the gate guess im gonna afk here! oh no i afkd too long and now im being pulled!

silk bane
steel ridge
frigid pilot
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the adds need to die

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no Kappa

steel ridge
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the adds lul

spice spire
frigid pilot
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if it was ST it'd be terros

silk bane
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yes kill little spiders im so useful im giga chad

frigid pilot
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11k diff

robust spear
lament warren
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that is 3k

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not 11k

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and sin is fine on sennarth

frigid pilot
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max

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not avg

silk bane
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LMFAO

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

lament warren
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max doesn’t matter if you’re progging spider

spice spire
frigid pilot
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spiderpadgang

steel ridge
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lmao

spice spire
silk bane
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hes finding a gigga padder and syaing thats how u prog

spice spire
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God bless amen

silk bane
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im dyingh

lament warren
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THAT’S HOW YOU RAID LEAD BOYS

spice spire
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More damage = more better kill

zinc frost
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Pack it up guys no more sin on spider you heard it here first

steel ridge
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sin dead confirmed

lament warren
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i think i do below 70k on spider

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cuz i don’t pad ever

slow marsh
lament warren
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as outlaw

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only press blade flurry for big spider

flint tusk
subtle tundra
flint tusk
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simmed us too high

subtle tundra
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yea

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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this discord is fucked

steel ridge
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nah blizzard just overreacted

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now even bm hunters are competing with sin for ST

subtle tundra
gusty mirage
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or how about this crazy perspective

flint tusk
gusty mirage
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play what you want to play

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until you yourself feel like you're holding back the raid

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not because WCL logs show one thing or another

steel ridge
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based

silk bane
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^ i mean, my Sub rogue sims the same as my Sin both around 80k ST. sin just kinda ratiod by the overhype

subtle tundra
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ok and how is sub better on spider

gusty mirage
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screenshotting WCL statistics and making broad statements about people "Griefing" their raid is actually the dumbest fucking thing I've read in here in a while

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which is impressive

subtle tundra
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assa is actually factually better

gusty mirage
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because people have some stupid fucking opinions

subtle tundra
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cause it has 2x ss

gusty mirage
slow marsh
gusty mirage
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people are so concerned with what others are doing

silk bane
gusty mirage
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they need to worry about their own play

grim tangle
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I was on a sennarth kill where the other rogue was outlaw and got 100% parse and if you take away his tiny spiders damage, I did more than him as sin. Outlaw being better at padding pointless damage doesn't make it better

subtle tundra
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i dont swap to spider

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at all

gusty mirage
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sennarth is actually an insanely good assassination fight

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if you don't think it is, you're probably not as good at assassination as you think you are

lament warren
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holy

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toxic

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(blade)

silk bane
gusty mirage
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it's deserved

subtle tundra
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its not like im progging now

flint tusk
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naa you're bench warming for good players F_

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set yourself up there 😛

gusty mirage
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also doesn't help slicktrick's case that every time he comes in here

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he shits on how terrible assassination is

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and has spicy hot takes that makes hataro sound sane

lament warren
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i’m progging irl

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get my money up not my funny up

flint tusk
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that's obvious

lament warren
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not the furry clowning me

silk bane
gusty mirage
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like there's this crazy feature in world of warcraft where you can push N and swap specs to something that isn't "shit"

zinc frost
gusty mirage
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if you truly believe assassination sucks

frigid pilot
gusty mirage
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don't play it?

frigid pilot
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They did it 2 patches in a row

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Max’s interview the ret guy talking was crying a River about how the spec is unplayable etc

silk bane
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we must learn the ways of the chicken . sandbag ez money lets get it

gusty mirage
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you crying in here once a week doesn't affect balancing

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no matter how important you may think you are

split grail
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So what;s the consensus on fang v. bronze grip?

flint tusk
gusty mirage
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you ideally make flaring cowl & lariat

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and get the eranog ring

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go with whatever's cheaper between the two

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cause eventually you'll replace it

junior bough
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Hello good evening, sorry for the inconvenience, are the new talents of the new ''patch'' updated in wowhead or will it be done in the next few days?

gusty mirage
junior bough
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nice ^^

gusty mirage
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should go live tomorrow though

junior bough
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thanks oxi

gusty mirage
silk gust
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What's the over/under on the changes? We in a good spot?

junior bough
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and for pvp... these are the ideal enchantments on both weapons?

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Enchant Weapon - Sophic Devotion

gusty mirage
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cause you can take dtb + IC now

silk gust
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I mostly run m+

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Oh so not Arterial?

gusty mirage
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I haven't done much pvp this season

gusty mirage
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you give up a TON of ST to run it

silk gust
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Unfortunate. Feels like it would be really fun with Tiny Toxic Blade and Lightweight Shiv

flint tusk
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you watch people flip out when they see AP and KB buffs

gusty mirage
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yea I think they kinda have to buff both tbh

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because as it stands

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KB never gets picked outside of niche situations where you can abuse a damage amp (like the raz shields)

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and if you want to play AP/IC you give up way too much ST for it to be worth in m+

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so it either has to be really fucking good in cleave/aoe

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or they make the ST benefits a bit stronger

zinc frost
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Surely they change it when they see it not being used it nothing other than maybe council

gusty mirage
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yeah I feel like they'll at least give it a good look

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idk the way our trees are set up, it was destined to kinda fail

midnight phoenix
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Hey does anyone use Hekili?

gusty mirage
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outside of TTB nothing in that area does literally anything

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for AP

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buff bleed damage

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nothing in that area buffs bleed damage

zinc frost
gusty mirage
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yea I think it will be

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it's a cool talent for sure

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but it just kinda falls flat cause our trees are kinda meh

flint tusk
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I'm kind of surprise they didn't just wait until they figured out what they want to do with exsang

zinc frost
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Being able to somehow use AP, dtb and IC in keys would be insane

flint tusk
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move that to the bottom spot and change it's function somehow

silk gust
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I hate exsang. I just want it to be gone

flint tusk
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slap AP where exsang was least then bleed buffing would make sense on aoe

hollow river
gusty mirage
agile talon
midnight phoenix
agile talon
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There's so many variables. 😅

hollow river
gusty mirage
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like if you're picking up a spec for the first time

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they're fantastic for getting in the reps

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but using them past that is kinda using them as a crutch

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there's situations where those addons can't help you with

midnight phoenix
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Yeah makes sense

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Just going back onto rogue so be good to get used to it again

gusty mirage
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yea makes sense, I hear hekili is one of the better ones

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fwiw

thorn fjord
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Hekili helped me learn UH DK relatively quickly... Would have had a really hard time without it

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but im dumb

gusty mirage
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yeah I mean they're fantastic for getting comfy with the core of each spec

thorn fjord
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i THINK they might be using some of the same apls from raidbots but dont quote me on that

gusty mirage
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they usually just copy the APLs from simc

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for the logic

earnest remnant
gusty mirage
slim hamlet
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😳

gusty mirage
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speaking of which @earnest remnant got my client's charge dismissed today

earnest remnant
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productive day ic

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im in M/A been very quiet lately not much going on, just a fuck load of meetings to attend

gusty mirage
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god bless you

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m&a is awful

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lmao

earnest remnant
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its very boring yeh

gusty mirage
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I like what I do

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even if sometimes I get death threats

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it's at least exciting

earnest remnant
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lmfao

gusty mirage
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last guy to threaten to kill me now pays me to be his lawyer

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funny how that worked out

earnest remnant
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look how the turned tables have mfcker

slim hamlet
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brain aneurysm from reading that

earnest remnant
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np

spice spire
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np

gusty mirage
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stealthi is going to adopt me so I can escape america

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he a real one

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speaking of which

slim hamlet
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u dont wanna beta test for us anymore? 😦

gusty mirage
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my RL asked me to play sub on raz so imma bother you with sub questions @earnest remnant

earnest remnant
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my dms are always open for u

lament warren
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abandoning sin

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sheesh

spice spire
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Multi spec gamer is oxi

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He’s not a dedicated one trick

thorn fjord
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@gusty mirage criminal law?

gusty mirage
#

mostly immigration, real estate, and general civil

#

it's funny to see two old men taking out a grudge in the courtroom

#

you see the pettiest shit ever

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"I want to counter-sue him!"

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"For what?"

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"Because fuck him"

earnest remnant
#

breathing

gusty mirage
#

gotcha

earnest remnant
#

ive had to deal with Divorces alot before i went into m/a

#

that is some petty shit as well

gusty mirage
#

dude, my old college buddy came to me for a divorce

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and they legit spent 3 weeks arguing over who keeps the washer and dryer

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like ????

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then 2 months arguing over a cat

ionic fox
#

They are only showing the outlaw nerf on wowhead. We still getting our tree reworked tomorrow?

gusty mirage
#

😐

sick monolith
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
#

we still get a 2pt dashing and new talent

earnest remnant
gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

Stuff aint ez

oak sky
terse orchid
#

That's why you become your own raid leader and tell them to get bent

oak sky
#

Lol why would i want to raid lead

#

Sounds awful

zinc frost
#

Easier to zug zug and hit things than guide people

thorn fjord
#

Max is going to be reviewing class changes soon… inb4 we get flooded with aw shit sin and OL are dead should I roll sub or a new class

vestal wren
#

haha

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to bad i won't see it (eu time zone issues)

thorn fjord
#

@vestal wren’s time to shine

vestal wren
#

time to sleep ^^

#

its midnight in eu

thorn fjord
#

Thems is gaming hours

vestal wren
#

but tbh, 10.0.5 changes for subtlety:

  • you can now pick acro always
#

finished

#

oh ye, dust still sucks

#

because ot the positioning on the tree

#

outlaw/sin have more changes

#

outlaw gets KS with dc

#

*dr

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and assassiantion quite some changes to the tree

thorn fjord
#

Yeah i mean the OL nerf sucks but it shouldnt suck THAT bad

silk bane
#

Isnt the OL nerf like 1.5%? but they can get like CB now so its more like 1% nerf? idk man

burnt star
#

Assa change are more like: wtf why did it go live with these tuning

silk bane
#

sins mostly the same in ST, its a little better in M+, rogue changes are mostly irrelevant imo

vestal wren
#

there is potential for some amount of dps back in the apl from updates to combo point management

#

so might be fairly minor nerf

thorn fjord
#

Yeah we may just finish at -2 which will be weird but w/e

slim hamlet
#

Imagine not being a degen Fuu

vestal wren
#

like, maybe all 3 can squeeze out some more dps

#

with small updates

slim hamlet
#

Not staying up to 4 AM on weekday

vestal wren
#

but if you look at the big changelog koji pushed

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and that the dps change if you ignore the trinket change is essentially +-0 for single target

thorn fjord
#

Rogue will be fine... Just gotta keep flowing with the current 😛

vestal wren
#

i don't think people will change a lot

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from one to the other spec

silk bane
#

dude our damage is fine, the specs are fun, we can live, and we still have insane util. we're gonna be doing well in both raid and M+. might not be the absoloute best M+ spec pushing to 30s this season but its gonna be good enough

boreal glacier
#

99% of people worrying about spec performance won't be pushing high enough were it matters anyways

#

(when it's small nerfs like this)

rancid mason
#

What is low cleave rotation? Lets say like 4 targets

boreal glacier
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
storm forum
# rancid mason What is low cleave rotation? Lets say like 4 targets

build cp with FoK and Garrote. maintain all bleeds (garrote, rupture, crimson tempest) on all targets as much as possible. dump excess cp into envenom on your priority target (highest hp, scary caster/buffer, depending on the situation). use ur CDs whenever theyre up on the prio target too

rancid mason
storm forum
#

I think so yeah

pallid bough
#

Imb4 “kb nerf”

#

I am aware

storm forum
#

probably cause sub has decent CDs for the shields, but also can do some damage to the adds in intermission

pallid bough
#

Dmg to adds become sort of irrelevant tho

#

A specific guild swapped both their sub rogues to sin and they were doing tank dmg in intermissions and they still killed it

slim hamlet
#

not on myffic

pallid bough
#

Yes on mythic lmao

storm forum
#

i mean, it depends on the comp

pallid bough
#

I mean if it’s early prog for Oxi then sub is a good choice

#

Since you will see more later phases

#

And yeah def depends on the comp for sure

#

And how many grief torch the raid has Icent

storm forum
#

like im assuming their rl has a brain here

pallid bough
#

But it’s not like ur dmg is piss bad

#

And ur still going to gap sub in p3

#

Which is where there are going to be so many deaths

slim hamlet
#

I like how u said "yes on mythic lmao" followed by saying what I said

pallid bough
#

Why would I be talking about heroic…

slim hamlet
#

what?

#

I didnt say u did?

pallid bough
#

I mean the assumption is there tho no?

sonic hollow
#

is dragontempered blades and kingsbane being made into a choice node a good or a bad thing MareloDank

slim hamlet
#

No I legit just said i dont believe u were right

#

who cares

pallid bough
#

O

#

Kk

#

All good

fallen raven
slim hamlet
#

Man I love KB

storm forum
oak sky
#

Barely net good for m+ because you lose zoldyck which is a lot of aoe its basically neutral

storm forum
#

good for DTB enjoyers probably, they're getting a free point

#

i wonder how having amp in M+ is going to affect our CP dumping

#

like on 6 targets it was kind of evenish already, now if there are enough stacks to consume, at what target count does empowered env overcome CT

oak sky
#

Probably still around 6 or something low like that

brazen nimbus
#

do we get a spark this reset?

storm onyx
#

w

violet moat
#

its impossible to get dtb + ic right now? dashing scoundrel needs to drop to 2 points for that?

oak sky
#

Changes tomorrow

oak sky
gusty mirage
#

anything to make it easier ya know

pallid bough
gusty mirage
#

cause like assassination kinda sus for anything outside of ST

turbid heath
#

Tru

brazen zodiac
tall atlas
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dark token
cyan wharf
#

!Whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
near magnet
#

!logs

proper tapir
#

Hi fellow spider boss and M+ griefers, I want to farm CoS ring. Should I blast low level keys and burn Valor or just spend the time getting into med/high keys?

tacit oracle
#

But theres enough rp that u prolly just slammer jam it higher up and save some valor too.

proper tapir
#

Yeah man, idk if my sanity can handle either. I change my mind after every one. Maybe that's the best way, one high one low.

stable moss
#

anyone know a good weak aura that tracks when the boss should die timer wise?

raw marlin
#

friend just did a low 20 and 2keyed it with an assassin rogue that did insane overall dps

#

this was the build, dont see it in the FAQ.. im an sin noob but this looks interesting because i hate echo lol

#

does it work?

balmy condor
raw marlin
#

I think he did 88k overall in shadow and hes 3k score.. maybe i have a chance lol

#

never played sin outside of pvp

balmy condor
#

yeah that seems reasonable

#

88k isn't too bad

drifting cloud
#

how many times do you think they pressed gouge in the key

zinc frost
#

Not enough to be worth taking

drifting cloud
#

man just removed er points and put them randomly, bis build

strange python
#

3k score? Must be zerocool

#

Whispyr's protege

balmy condor
#

yeh, zerocool actually my brother

drifting cloud
#

evo zerocool isnt that much of a clown to skip er

ebon notch
drifting cloud
#

I think

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(maybe)

balmy condor
near magnet
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
gray hazel
#

how much dps do you lose if you dont have WF?

strange python
#

A million

regal sable
#

assa changes sooooon

dim yacht
#

im pumped

regal sable
#

@balmy condor how big of a headache would it be if they reworked exsang by removing it and then making arterial an AOE exsang?
PEPW

dim yacht
#

would that even be good? to my understanding, exang is powerful because youre getting a bunch of extra energy faster and some extra bleed damage. in aoe, youre likely to not even reapply that many of the bleeds, the energy is near useless, and idk if exsang applys to CT, but youd reapply CT and overwrite the exsanged CT aswell

oak sky
#

It does apply to ct

dim yacht
#

yeah so an aoe exsang sounds....awful

#

and useless

twilit lagoon
#

How much use does Exsang see outside of ST? I feel like mentally I don't want to waste the CD on a pack in a dungeon unless it's one of the lieutenants like the guy before the first boss in RLP.

oak sky
#

Yeah you just kinda press it

regal sable
#

havoc started in #assa another day

#

my job is done

loud silo
#

Kekw

oak sky
#

Glad i read the pin nice to see that zold and scent are likely to go down in points in the future

twilit lagoon
#

I'm bad enough with the builds that I don't know what we'd gain with that. :\ I assume it's good because those points can go into better talents

dim yacht
# loud silo "some extra bleed damage"

extra bleed damage in context that you can reapply the bleed afterwards and get higher overall bleed damage on a fight. is that not correct? that plus the energy is what makes exsang an impactful cooldown. i dont play exsang, so if you want to correct me go for it

loud silo
#

Im not really an expert on why certain talents are good ect

#

I just press the button and go brr

#

The energy regen is not the impactful part

#

Its just making your empowered bleeds more concentrated and bursty

#

Again not an expert but thats my thoughts

#

Not exact numbers but would you rather 60k bleed damage over 30 seconds or 10 seconds

#

Thats exsang in a nutshell

agile osprey
#

Do I ever use shiv outside of kingsbane? Or do I always need to sit on both charges for this build?

plain jewel
#

Idk if I'm clicking something else but I swear to god my Deathmark sometimes gives me 2 combo points in the opener. Is there an interaction im missing or just a misclick probably

tacit oracle
teal bloom
#

@plain jewel shrouded suffocation gives the 2cp from duplicated garrote

#

@agile osprey with kingsbane build you only use shiv with kingsbane

placid lotus
#

with tomorrow's patch, kingsblade goes out of window from AOE build?

zinc frost
#

Yeah - dtb/ic is the go to now

spice surge
#

Kingsbane goes out of window from AOE build

placid lotus
#

thank you!

vale shore
#

but you can still play IC+ the new talent though right?

#

arterial precision

tacit otter
#

yes you can, but its not great

vale shore
#

even on raging weeks when dispelling 5 targets would save a lot of damage on the tank?

shut owl
#

they can hit ignore pain harder kek

tacit otter
vale shore
#

even with two charges, when you are using Death Mark to double your bleeds on the target and now increasing their damage by 20%?

tacit otter
#

yes its a 10% dps loss in (general) st, everything considered

lean fossil
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
vale shore
#

So this says arterial is less than a percent behind, not 10%

tacit otter
#

yes thats dungeonslice, further down you see single target

marble hemlock
#

dunno if you think thats a tradeoff worth taking

vale shore
#

well yeah I would never run arterial in raids, but you make your money in trash packs in M+

marble hemlock
#

yes and no

#

a 1% gain in aoe isnt worth a 10% drop in ST

#

especially as AP benefits from dslice not running large pulls, i.e. nothing above 6t iirc

#

dslice is 2min of bossfight to start with, then a 3-5min variety of 2-3t or 4-6t trash packs with some restealths some chainpulls

vale shore
#

so.. running a dungeon?

lean fossil
#

starting tomorrow, how much of a loss is it to not run exsanguinate and taking master assassin

gusty mirage
#

same as it was before

#

not big enough for you to HAVE to play it if you hate it

lean fossil
#

ok

#

because the dtb poison build sims still higher than the bleed dtb build

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for me at least

vale shore
#

I always thought of exanguinate as a button you press that makes you have to press two more buttons sooner than you would normally have to

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every three minutes

gusty mirage
lean fossil
#

i can send you the sim report

gusty mirage
#

Hmmm interesting

#

nah I believe you

lean fossil
#

its like a 100 dps loss for some reason

gusty mirage
#

that's the perks of the new talent system imo

winter raft
gusty mirage
#

overall our build balance (RIP KB I MISS YOU ALREADY) was pretty solid

#

so gear could swing it one way or another

gusty mirage
lean fossil
#

for sure!

winter raft
#

( i did fucking awful)

#

but still poggies

balmy condor
gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

it's a puzzle box difference

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

if you have 4 piece, it's puzzle box

lean fossil
#

yeah i dont have puzzle box lol

balmy condor
#

:)

#

I seen this before

winter raft
lean fossil
#

some day that will drop

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just not today 😦

balmy condor
#

but yeh

#

there's a reason why I have all those builds in my spreadsheet

balmy condor
#

it's cause people actually just sim higher with them

winter raft
#

true

lean fossil
#

saves the rest of us a ton of time lol

balmy condor
#

thats the gaol

lean fossil
#

im ready for tomorrow, just so nothing will change expect i wont take kb for m+ anymore lol

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interesting, i just reran the sims since getting a few upgrades and exsang is now 600 dps lower

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lol let the gap grow!

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

check the ptr page

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that has the builds

tacit oracle
lean fossil
#

i did

balmy condor
#

oh

#

nice

#

good good

lean fossil
#

i like kb as an ability, sucks they screwed up the pathing

balmy condor
#

just needs buff

lean fossil
#

true

vale shore
#

just needs the artifact weapon talent tree back from Legion

dense herald
#

@limber lion hey man, sorry for the ping, I love your player profile but was wondering if you would have any idea how to change the border colour of rupture (just rupture) to a colour instead of the glow that you have for rupture/garrote when you need to reapply?

flat pike
#

are you non-outlaw king rogues any good at M+?

balmy condor
#

we're okay

karmic crypt
#

Hey assasin

#

so with the shiv buff is that going to make assassination a better pick for lets say primal council?

errant swallow
#

It'll be better for assassination

#

But outlaw and sub will still be ahead

strange python
strange python
dawn kelp
#

How does one charge of shiv feel? Must make it somewhat slower

#

Def compared to playing kingsbane the last few weeks

green juniper
#

Guys, i need a weak aura just for garrote, rupture, slice and dice.. where do i get it which have to be clean af :/ i could made ny own garrote but rupture is not on debuffs..

strange python
#

Just get better nameplates💁🏼‍♀️

frozen iris
green juniper
frozen iris
#

The wowhead guide has some recommendations. I can’t recall anybody’s besides afenars

green juniper
#

Let me boot up the game.. thanks god for work from home

#

Also usa got their new talents and stuff and we have to wait for tomorrow i guess

frozen iris
#

Usa?

green juniper
#

American continent*

frozen iris
#

Ah I’m use to people referring it as NA so it threw me off.

#

Here’s a bunch of weak auras you can choose from

#

Copy what you need and delete the rest.

green juniper
#

❤️ trying

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Will try nameplates also even i am sucker for original ui

neat plank
#

I'm bored of sub and disappointed with its ST damage, tomorrow's sin updates better make it more viable in m+ or I'm gonna be upset!

grim tangle
#

it's already viable

neat plank
#

right, I mispoke

#

s

#

i meant competitive 😛

#

my sense of self worth is pretty closely tied to damage meters so I wouldn't be able to cope with lower numbers than I'm used to

#

I would prefer boredom over lower numbers

polar gull
#

i thought i read somewhere shiv was also losing the nature dmg buff but cant seem to find it anyywhere...was i trippin?

balmy condor
#

towards the top

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called "improved shiv"

neat plank
#

did zerocool permanently swith to outlaw now?

#

I was looking forward to seeing his performance after the changes, but now I'm kinda sad

silver forum
#

outlaw best rogue spec now?

neat plank
#

probably, but I want to use a dagger

silver forum
#

i'm using a 402 main hand 2.6 weapon speed. my dps tops out at 45k overall in mythic 14s

#

the swap to outlaw is hurting me

graceful bane
neat plank
#

that just a gear issue, it'll go up

silver forum
#

no my ilvl is 412, its me

neat plank
#

how do you have 412 overall with a 402 main hand lol

#

just craft a better one then

silver forum
#

for outlaw. yeah i'm waiting to get a spark tommorow to get a proper weapon

neat plank
#

also, in lower keys people usually dont pull as big because it's not needed to time the keys, so overall dmg will be lower

strange python
#

Taking bets on the time servers actually come up

oak sky
#

kinda need them up on time tbh

#

gotta get my catalyst charge and my flaring cowl

nocturne sorrel
#

A few questions.
As an engineer, what should I be utilizing my profession for? I know there's the battle res, but also it seems like tinker slots are on specific pieces of crafted gear?

I saw a weapon with an effect that doubles well fed timer, and makes it persist through death. How can I get that?

oak sky
#

thats an embellish you would add to your weapon using the crafting order system

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so you would need someone with blacksmithing to craft the weapon and you add the optional reagent alchemical flavor pocket

uneven summit
#

Whats the general feel, people exciting about the changes or sad to see kingsbane og 😛

oak sky
#

pins sum it up pretty well

nocturne sorrel
#

@oak sky Thank you! Did not know that. Can I add it on by getting the weapon recrafted?

uneven summit
#

So sad, but listening to whispyrs wise words in regards to not going doom

royal lantern
#

did somone say DOOM?

oak sky
violet jackal
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
elfin valley
#

!whispyr

prisma monolithBOT
fresh blaze
#

guys for teros which one is better DTB or KB?

grim jay
#

The one you dont mess up with

fresh blaze
#

yeah tbh im still learning assassination

grim jay
#

Kb is top Log rn iirc, but its not far ahead. The others use Poison dtb iirc

hollow solstice
grim jay
#

Kb is a different playstyle

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And dead on reset

hollow solstice
#

Can i send my clip from terros mythic here ?

grim jay
#

So its not worth spending your time on learning

fresh blaze
#

i refer dtb

hollow solstice
#

Kb is the most satisfaction spec imo

grim jay
#

Yeah but its still dead today or tomorrow

hollow solstice
#

That's my reclean terros mm

unkempt belfry
#

Depends on kill time, kb tends to work better for our kill times, since we kill right before a deathmark window

#

Dtb should be fine while progging, just keep high uptime and don't mess up 🙂

grim jay
fresh blaze
#

thank u so much

mystic zenith
#

does anyone know where i can find the command to find ruby whelp shell training?

#

not pinned anymore

balmy condor
mystic zenith
#

yep

balmy condor
#

/run for i=2148,2153,1 do V=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(i); print(V.name.." - discovered:",tostring(V.discovered)..", quantity:",tostring(V.quantity)) end

lament warren
#

that’s a virus

little light
#

more like poison, stay on class fantasy pls

lament warren
#

mb

little light
#

it will make your computer bleed

haughty jungle
#

how can I have slightly better overall dps in M+18 as sub then sin, and I play sin from start, and for sub I just entered dungeon and mashed buttons? Is sub rly that much better? WIll new build from tomorrow fix our M+ overall?

balmy condor
#

sub is better and not very difficult, build tomorrow doesn't fix anything, read pin

haughty jungle
#

thanks

normal mist
#

As long as my overall is #1 or #2 in details in m+, I'm happy enough

vestal wren
#

you can usually do that regardless of spec

#

a big part of the wow player base is not good enough

ashen rover
#

It's always the person behind the keyboard 😛

jovial adder
#

Is bleed DTB build just The DTB with exsang?

vestal wren
#

or has the experience with the keys

ashen rover
#

Definitely

vestal wren
#

i don't think anyone intentionally plays bad, it is mostly just the lack of knowledge, gear or experience

ashen rover
#

Always funny to me when I get whispered asking "why do you play sin? Isn't outlaw better?" Blob

vestal wren
#

just a result of people chasing meta choices

#

even palying subtlety does get you a "why u not playing outlaw"

green juniper
#

answer for me Pirates doesn't fullfill my rogue fantasy..

vale lantern
#

Someone asked me why i was playing Assassin over Outlaw and I just responded with i have 2 ~400ilvl daggers and only a 385 ilvl None dagger for mainhand

#

i reality i like assass better but its easier to explain numbers to people

hollow dirge
vale lantern
#

iv ran into to many back talkers when i say that

hollow dirge
#

No reason to explain myself prior to dungeon. I don’t go around inspecting if people are meta

green juniper
#

noob question of the day so sometimes ppl say quick bio in raids and stuff.. what does bio means

ashen rover
#

I think I recently got kicked from a m+ group bc of that OMEGAKEKW

vale lantern
#

i legit had a healer earlier leave after the second boss in 18 HoV cause they noticed the tank had a 385 item on halfway thru the dungeon

ashen rover
lament warren
#

bio -> biological -> bathroom

hollow dirge
lament warren
#

what tank was it

vale lantern
lament warren
#

LMAO

lament warren
#

bro i did nokhud 21 at 369 overall equipped

#

that class is not okay

#

that healer needs a brain check

ashen rover
#

Look what I saw the other day OMEGAKEKW

#

All that for a 12

vale lantern
#

sadly we didnt even wipe the warrior died to the light beam but its cause he was at 30% for a solid 12 seconds without a heal after a personal potion

lament warren
#

he’s just so bad he needs meta comp for a +5

#

yeah low ilvl warriors only die to bosses

#

in my experience

vale lantern
#

yeah but sadly he just died to lack of heals

lament warren
#

i’ve since gotten like 20 more ilvl but crawth still fucks me

vale lantern
#

but you are right warrior is broken

lament warren
#

yeah

quasi pine
lament warren
#

ya

#

we were over time but it’s not bc of tank

#

i just killed myself a lot seeing what i could spell reflect/block after we weren’t gonna time anyway

quasi pine
#

yeah testing

lament warren
#

was still worth score

#

xd

#

good game

quasi pine
lament warren
#

well

#

i could also time a 20 cos

#

if i had mythic eranog trinket

#

and 3 people doing 100k dps

quasi pine
#

that class is clearly not busted at all

lament warren
#

every tank class should be like that

quasi pine
#

not sure

#

I like playing my bdk

#

a good near death experience

lament warren
#

yea im bdk main

#

i agree

quasi pine
#

every packs, but it's still fun af

quasi pine
lament warren
#

bdk bis tank

#

for schizo control freaks

#

😄

vestal wren
lament warren
#

nah

#

it was naowh 200 ilvl on prot warrior

quasi pine
#

yep x)

royal lantern
#

🙂

vestal wren
#

druid tanks getting nerfed in 10.0.5 to my knowlage

lament warren
#

nope

vestal wren
#

i don't play druit tank, but isn't it harder to get the dps nodes with the tree changes?

lament warren
#

oh

#

idk

#

i thought it was just balance tree changes

verbal mantle
lament warren
severe knoll
#

!whispyr