idk how u can die asa rogue tbh
#assassination
worldly seal
frigid pilot
got 4p on my fresh 1 day/played dk
worldly seal
unless genuine healer problem
worldly seal
on kurog when they call for defensives i juswt imagine a rogue pressing feint
and then me using some cringe off brand defensive
that is just worse
😭
limber lion
Council doesn't matter
worldly seal
what about the tick
lament warren
Council doesn't matter
the stats are infalted
is what i am saying
you are supporting my point
worldly seal
the dmg tick thingy that scales
limber lion
Yeh
oblique tangle
Y'all I'm late and don't want to find it
frigid pilot
we're trash on every boss but terros
worldly seal
it works on that ?
frigid pilot
no 
limber lion
They're always like that in every tier
worldly seal
bc if it does it's broken af
gusty mirage
or the aoe
The aoe is garbage tier
limber lion
There's always bosses that are good and bosses that are terrible
frigid pilot
if any1 is sin on aoe fights/m+ and not doing it for allstar points they griefing their raid
no
limber lion
That's why the statistics are awful and people living their lives chasing wowhead posts about statistics should probably do something else instead.
gusty mirage
if any1 is sin on aoe fights/m+ and not doing it for allstar points they griefin...
I play assassination in keys
And enjoy it
spice spire
I play assassination in keys
Man of culture
frigid pilot
Imagine ever getting a queue
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eQtHttY15X5YJnwJAGCAj4 my 2handed assassin rogue coming along nicely
lament warren
i'm killing myself tonight
frigid pilot
ayo, bring cookies
tough gorge
You know what's funny, didn't they nerf PB because of its dmg in pvp? The more logical change would have been to decrease its damage but increase its proc rate, helps Sin AoE and reduces burst. How did they not think of this?
frigid pilot
You know what's funny, didn't they nerf PB because of its dmg in pvp? The more l...
they dont think
tough gorge
That makes sense though right?
frigid pilot
and yeah they nerfed pvp 8 times in billion different ways
tough gorge
Solve so many sin issues lol
tough gorge
If its procs at like 80%, then envenom funneling after CT is the clear playstyle
spice spire
meanwhile evoker furries
Scalies
lament warren
get with the times grandpa
frigid pilot
how the fuck we gonna lose to iguanas
tough gorge
sucks because of how it works now
hidden crown
is anyone out-dpsing other "Stronger" specs with Sin?
tough gorge
48% chance of PB is stupid
frigid pilot
is anyone out-dpsing other "Stronger" specs with Sin?
beating survival hunters and aff locks 
limber lion
is anyone out-dpsing other "Stronger" specs with Sin?
If they play worse, then yes
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
how the fuck we gonna lose to iguanas
Because blizzard felt the need to buff them before a lot of them got the broodkeeper staff
Where have we seen this before
gusty mirage
Hmmm
frigid pilot
hmmmmmmmmm
hidden crown
If they play worse, then yes
that is most in my case
frigid pilot
every evoker healer we have has the staff
gusty mirage
The effect by itself is like 3k dps for them lol
frigid pilot
"rare" btw
gusty mirage
Insanity
thorn fjord
They gave the enh shammie Torch over me this week and it makes me really sad
gusty mirage
Like a normal staff competes with a 421 staff
hidden crown
remove gear from wow
hand to hand we will see who is stronger
frigid pilot
uh dk doesnt have to do mechanics on 50% of the fights
lament warren
hand to hand we will see who is stronger
precisely my man
lament warren
hey
hidden crown
does he know?
lament warren
i am a fotm swapper
and i came over to rogue
which means the plague will follow
if they do not nerf the class
i am the herald of the storm
frigid pilot
i used to be a mage and have been trying to roll back to rogue since wod
thorn fjord
so what you're saying is its all your fault? @lament warren
lament warren
it is
frigid pilot
and ofc i do it on the tier they add all frontals and bullshit swirlies everywhere
lament warren
even tho i played dh week 1 heroic
oblique tangle
The aoe is garbage tier
So are we doing crit buff or ST damage?
gusty mirage
So are we doing crit buff or ST damage?
Fuu has the sauce for simming which one is better somewhere lemme find it for you
subtle tundra
That's cause assa can ONLY do boss dmg so it never does anything else. Every other class can change
hidden crown
kinda feel bad for sin
subtle tundra
So if assa isn't top by a lot it means assa isn't even good at st
frigid pilot
So if assa isn't top by a lot it means assa isn't even good at st
its good on st
good thing theres only 1 st fight
hidden crown
the joke of all the rogue spec cant even get invited ina +14 or +15 and yet other specs have big flaws too
limber lion
But boss damage is also skewed because you have people on Broodkeeper doing nothing else but hit boss, or full blasting adds. Both statistics are just super wonky because of Brood.
subtle tundra
the joke of all the rogue spec cant even get invited ina +14 or +15 and yet othe...
Not getting invited has nothing to do with spec in 15s
They don't even know your spec
gusty mirage
@oblique tangle #subtlety message
thorn fjord
Varas still a fish i see
frigid pilot
any1 doing giga high keys can explain to me why mages are barely played now
hidden crown
They don't even know your spec
they just invite you and then kick you
slim hamlet
any1 doing giga high keys can explain to me why mages are barely played now
deadge I assume
oblique tangle
<@124259541511569408> https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923898...
Shoutouts
subtle tundra
they just invite you and then kick you
Happened like 4 times to me in over 4 years of assa
Misinformation is love
frigid pilot
deadge I assume
just survivability?
vestal wren
So are we doing crit buff or ST damage?
st is better (fire blase)
frigid pilot
arcane feels so awful in low keys
u ramp and things die b4 u even finish ur barrage
slim hamlet
just survivability?
I would guess
thorn fjord
Let us not forget @subtle tundra
vestal wren
for dungeon slice, haste simmed best
hidden crown
Let us not forget <@225677043482755072>
EXACTLY LIKE THIS
gusty mirage
and ranged kick
Mages never kick so
slim hamlet
like they dont have omega party healing like spriest and balance at least
or enhance i guess even tho we talked about ranged
frigid pilot
im fucking juiced on my mage
frigid pilot
m0 didnt dsrop
lament warren
it’s bis lol
frigid pilot
what u want me to do
slim hamlet
just skill issue
frigid pilot
ye
gusty mirage
Make it drop duh
lament warren
turns out 561 of 0 is still 0
slim hamlet
Why is your gigachad so thin
frigid pilot
keto
lament warren
you can’t just ask that
slim hamlet
ah
thorn fjord
He's just up there soiling his britches
frigid pilot
help hes bodyshaming
slim hamlet
hidden crown
that is not body positivity brother
hidden crown
its not flat enough
thorn fjord
um
slim hamlet
this disc is legit ANYTHING but sin rogue
slim hamlet
just right click boss
hidden crown
exsang?
frigid pilot
collect low dmg profile due to nerfs
hidden crown
ex what?
slim hamlet
I mean sin compared to basically all classes is prob one of the hardest
Lots to keep track off
But the game in general is easy on that part
hidden crown
Idk Im getting more lost with Outlaw than Sin
slim hamlet
Idk Im getting more lost with Outlaw than Sin
skill issue
frigid pilot
nothin to track
slim hamlet
outlaw is click what glows 90% of the time
lament warren
wrong
gusty mirage
99% of sin rogues in raid play non exsandg dtb
They’re prepping for the build diversity we’ll have reset
lament warren
the glow is fake
frigid pilot
outlaw is click what glows 90% of the time
but multiple things glow at the same time
gusty mirage
Don’t blame them
prisma cypress
how does non-exsang dtb compare to exsang in 10.0.5?
hidden crown
my ambush doesnt glow so thats probably an issue
slim hamlet
99% of sin rogues in raid play non exsandg dtb
Yeah I saw this and was very confused
frigid pilot
Yeah I saw this and was very confused
cus most sins r boomers
thorn fjord
Sin gamers lazy gamers confirmed
frigid pilot
they would play bm hunter if they could
hidden crown
too old for more buttons
gusty mirage
A lot of people hate exsanguinate
frigid pilot
sit back, relax, pop a cold one
slim hamlet
my ambush doesnt glow so thats probably an issue
make wa that makes icon glow when u get proc?
frigid pilot
put ur 2 dots up
hidden crown
they would play bm hunter if they could
and still die
frigid pilot
and rinse mutilate/envenom
and when ur pandemic glowy thing tells u to refresh ur 2 red thingies
u putem back on
gusty mirage
and rinse mutilate/envenom
And yet people will freak out over timings on openers
Like they even matter
slim hamlet
I dont even have pandemic glow 
thorn fjord
I thought we were exsanging DM now
thats what @limber lion said
i cant tell no lies
gusty mirage
I’m going to exsang myself
gusty mirage
So I never have to play wow again
frigid pilot
top sin players in order to get a good parse according to killtime, exsang/puzzle/dm timings
dh/uh dk players
hidden crown
make wa that makes icon glow when u get proc?
Idk I dont have exang on any of my builds except Kingsbane and IC
lament warren
sub players doing the same dps with almost any kill time
slim hamlet
Idk I dont have exang on any of my builds except Kingsbane and IC
weakling
hidden crown
oops shouldnt reply
frigid pilot
frigid pilot
i dont know why
but when i play sub on terros
my sim is high
dmg is low
i get my mcabre to high stacks
hidden crown
stat issue
frigid pilot
and do good rotatoes
slim hamlet
Sub is fucking misserable to play on st
frigid pilot
yeah
prisma cypress
rotatoes lol
frigid pilot
like the sim and the dmg dont lineup
i fuckup sin/outlaw rotatoe and do way higher than what i do as sub
thorn fjord
Prob just not hitting your keys hard enough
frigid pilot
on jah
slim hamlet
I dont think I can ever have fun on ST on another spec than sin
gusty mirage
dmg is low
Variance is a bitch
hidden crown
Imagine fan of knifes giving you Combo Points like Shuriken Storm
frigid pilot
Imagine fan of knifes giving you Combo Points like Shuriken Storm
blizz wouldnt let sin enjoyers be happy
slim hamlet
But making changes to make sin better in aoe is not happening
lets be honest
we got IC
now we wait 5 expansions for next one
Well
hidden crown
its working actually
prisma cypress
personally i prefer my carnage to be very discriminating
slim hamlet
outlaw is residentsleeper st
frigid pilot
HUH
slim hamlet
and then aoe is same exact rotation
frigid pilot
APm is insane as outlaw man
slim hamlet
🙂
frigid pilot
between ghostly
slim hamlet
APm is insane as outlaw man
Yes
frigid pilot
and finding a KS window
slim hamlet
But still very easy imo
hidden crown
so wait both specs actually suck at single target?
frigid pilot
and managing rolls
prisma cypress
kyrian outlaw with shadowdust was nuts apm
hidden crown
thats fantastic Im doing nothing wrong then
slim hamlet
U ideally dont want to use KS
gusty mirage
If pressing buttons is fun, I’m sure you’d love fury warrior as well
slim hamlet
What u mean find a window
frigid pilot
i literally played all 3 specs, outlaw ST is crazy hard
thorn fjord
U ideally dont want to use KS
65% dmg reduction tho
frigid pilot
no cap
thorn fjord
Not even
hidden crown
If pressing buttons is fun, I’m sure you’d love fury warrior as well
trust me I do
frigid pilot
managing gcds*
thorn fjord
Did you roll SnB? No? REROLL
frigid pilot
no shot
hidden crown
time to waste your dps on roll the bones
slim hamlet
I am not doing the understanding
gusty mirage
Lmaoooo no spec in this game is hard to play
Arcane mages think they need a phd to play their spec
frigid pilot
ambush, pistol, dispatch, bte, roll, ghostly
thorn fjord
Reroll logic is the easiest it’s been
slim hamlet
ambush, pistol, dispatch, bte, roll, ghostly
just press ghostly on cd
frigid pilot
just sayin sub is easiest, then sin then outlaw
frigid pilot
no shot that sin is harder
unreal coyote
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
slim hamlet
dispatch when enough cp
frigid pilot
sin is only harder homework wise
thorn fjord
Ambush doesn’t light up without a wa tbf 🤣
slim hamlet
Ambush doesn’t light up without a wa tbf 🤣
true
hidden crown
Sin is to me more unique
gusty mirage
Same
slim hamlet
I unironically didnt know I had that talent for the first week of outlaw gaming
slim hamlet
It doesnt show like blindside for some weird reason
thorn fjord
Y’all get too caught up on labels… play what SMASHES boiz
slim hamlet
So just didnt know it happened 🙂
gusty mirage
I feel engaged
slim hamlet
Y’all get too caught up on labels… play what SMASHES boiz
Me warrior?
frigid pilot
Y’all get too caught up on labels… play what SMASHES boiz
it aint sin thats for sure
gusty mirage
Pushing 20 globals to do no damage
hidden crown
it aint sin thats for sure <:KEKW:910850607479398420>
Im popping off so I cant agree on that statement
slow marsh
You're convincing me to just play outlul rn oxi
gusty mirage
Thanks for the new trees blizzard!!!
thorn fjord
Pushing 20 globals to do no damage
I hate when I’m pressing like 7 keys and feel real good to then look at details and it be like nah champ not today
frigid pilot
You're convincing me to just play outlul rn oxi
gusty mirage
I hate when I’m pressing like 7 keys and feel real good to then look at details ...
Yeah me too
slim hamlet
Happy I am not outlaw main
frigid pilot
oxi fina become outlaw gigachad
hidden crown
hehehehehehe Outlaw poo poo
gusty mirage
Love doing all of that to do 3k more dps than the tank spamming 2 buttons
It’s actually my favorite part
gusty mirage
I mean most of outlaws damage on that fight is cleave
hidden crown
https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633
its even worse Sub is up there with Outlaw now
frigid pilot
frigid pilot
its even worse Sub is up there with Outlaw now
even the other 2x dagger users beating sin
oooooooof
thats like ur lil brother making more money than u at 18
gray crest
breaking news: spec that can do 2 target + cleave is good on a fight with 2t+ cleave
frigid pilot
and ur 32
hidden crown
Bruh Idk just change talents to get up the meters
gusty mirage
sin players be like at least we have terros <:Copium:918516837426290739>
Except we know we’re dogshit
No one says that
steep umbra
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
frigid pilot
only 1 of those is false
slow marsh
The gf for sure
hidden crown
money prob
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
When do I get to go on my foreverguy arc about claiming that it’s UNFAIR that outlaw performs better in raid?
thorn fjord
Could start that right now tbh
gusty mirage
And whining about how strong it is in literally every discussion
gray crest
I play sub and i have 2 401ks. does that mean sub>outlaw
gusty mirage
And then adding 5-10k dps overall every time I complain about it
slow marsh
You have to start a Twitter account and @ Warcraft devs about it tho
gusty mirage
Idc what he does on twitter
slow marsh
Oops
gusty mirage
He was doing it in here
slow marsh
Yeah true
gusty mirage
At one point it was claimed assassination was doing 110k in sims
When it was doing 98k
gusty mirage
Not sure where that extra 12k came from but ya know
frigid pilot
whispyr flying in like tarzan to steal yo lunch money
thorn fjord
Sprinkling biscuits as he fly's away
gusty mirage
Sub rogues malded about all cool buttons assassination got
Funny how that one worked out
gusty mirage
That is 100% true
wind dune
Yet were the only spec to have to actually talent into our aoe 🙂
next edge
Sub and sins are brothers
frigid pilot
sub rogues always defended sin
thorn fjord
Sub rogue is a huge cap right now imo in the way that its played
frigid pilot
its true
thorn fjord
no thanks
frigid pilot
fuu treats sin players like brothers
thorn fjord
fuu treats all rogues like brothers
next edge
That is 100% true
I will stab you with my meat dagger
gusty mirage
“Assassination got all these cool buttons and we just get replicating shadows!”
thorn fjord
He's a man of the people
frigid pilot
i'd invite fuu to my wedding
hidden crown
reason we like Sub rogues is cuz its easier to switch specs
thorn fjord
I'd marry fuu
frigid pilot
hidden crown
Fuck all of y’all
Depression
thorn crater
lmao
i mean the complaint to realz about "ruining the flow of the spec" was the peak for me. on open discord
next edge
Copium
frigid pilot
how we gonna let frost dk
thorn crater
big yikes
gusty mirage
i mean the complaint to realz about "ruining the flow of the spec" was the peak ...
BUT EMPTY GLOBALS
REEEE
gray crest
i couldve sworn you said assassination in its current state is so fucking fun a couple weeks ago @gusty mirage
thorn fjord
@gusty mirage rerolling FFIV/Samurai
next edge
UH C tier
gusty mirage
Then that got fixed
frigid pilot
FR 
ST DK
next edge
HAHAHDJDJSHAHDHAHAA
thorn crater
u dont bitch to the dev on the general outlaw channel im sorry but you dont
jade abyss
<@192059095279337473> rerolling FFIV/Samurai
Samurai ❤️
gusty mirage
i couldve sworn you said assassination in its current state is so fucking fun a ...
It is fun
frigid pilot
LOOK AT DETAILS
gusty mirage
It just does no damage
gusty mirage
This is shadowlands except reverse lmao
slow marsh
Yeah
thorn fjord
It just does no damage
If UH wasnt steam rolling the way it is would it back you feel better about the sin dmg profile?
slow marsh
It def feels fun but no damage makes it feel bad
gusty mirage
If UH wasnt steam rolling the way it is would it back you feel better about the ...
Yes
If arcane mage got nerfed like rogue did
I would feel better
frigid pilot
2 sin rogues top 10 on details
nerf them now
nerf them right meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
gusty mirage
Why are we nerfed when other specs are fine to “over perform”?
thorn fjord
Most mages dont even enjoy playing arcane.. Its a meme what blizz did to mages lol
atomic finch
is there anyone playing assasination in keys that can help me out
frigid pilot
mythic raz at 1% for echo
thorn crater
arcane does
glacial shuttle
DH players too busy floor tanking to need a nerf tbh
gusty mirage
And they got nerfed plenty
slow marsh
is there anyone playing assasination in keys that can help me out
We are currently shitting on assassination please hold
gusty mirage
Idk how you nerf all 3 rogue specs based on heroic logs
frigid pilot
@atomic finch ur first mistake was sin in keys
gusty mirage
But somehow BM and arcane are untouched
ionic fox
All 3 specs got nerfed but Sin got 2 extra nerfs
thorn crater
what do
gusty mirage
And on top of that they buff evoker and DK?
ionic fox
for doing well before anyone had 4 piece
frigid pilot
btw fun fact. i top my guild's dps on all bosses by more than 10k
ur guild rides the shortbus
ionic fox
lul
magic vine
man oxi you're making me think this is the outlaw channel
frigid pilot
oxi is just blackpilled
magic vine
still in here railing on this
slow marsh
He already said he's on forever guy arc
gusty mirage
is there anyone playing assasination in keys that can help me out
@marble hemlock @subtle tundra
thorn crater
nah in the outlaw channel we cry for a week because we get LESS FREE CPs from fan the hammer
gusty mirage
Yeah spec’s dead
thorn fjord
i finished M Terros third in details below UH and Survival with a fucking green parse lol
gusty mirage
Ask them
thorn crater
and it "ruins" the flow of the spec
frigid pilot
i used to rock the DTB flair with pride
thorn fjord
My guild is a cap
frigid pilot
then the nerfs came
thorn crater
and tag realz and bitch and moan to him
slow marsh
It ruins the flow of ps ambush dispatch ambush dispatch ps ambush dispatch
marble hemlock
<@210784027752398848> <@225677043482755072>
wind dune
wish i could have outlaws gameplay loop imagine barely having to press your builder
frigid pilot
and now everytime i presds BTE i think about the moments i had with envenom and mutilate
the good old days
thorn crater
AMBUSH DISPATCH BRRRRRR
thorn fjord
But wasnt combat the play in Wrath?
frigid pilot
getting the kelthuzad dagger
slow marsh
After ulduar yeah
subtle tundra
<@210784027752398848> <@225677043482755072>
1 week of spiteful made me a sub player
jade abyss
Oxi on fire
thorn crater
ICC and toc was combat through and through
glacial shuttle
is it just me or did the talent changes coming next week.... kinda.... mess with Sin's ST damage profile? ;S
thorn crater
nonononono
thorn crater
cmon those are clearly buffs guys
we should be happy
we get a new capstone
SUPER COOL
only it sucks dick
but HEY
hidden crown
Like all Sin needs is more energy recharge like outlaw and sub, and buff Sin's fan of knifes to give more CB, and we're literally at the top
slow marsh
Na we don't need energy
glacial shuttle
https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372
Sigh.. yeah.. tbh it is my first time giving Sin a proper shot lol.
frigid pilot
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
thorn crater
i said it before but yall laughed at me
make exsang a capstone put it back to 45 seconds
frigid pilot
HOW U GONNA LET OUTLAW BEAT U ON TERROS
thorn crater
and see whats what
frigid pilot
execute should be permabanned
slow marsh
No we still have execute
wind dune
yea i was getting memed for saying outlaw has higher single target then sin last week 🙂 weird how the logs still show the same info
frigid pilot
dudes saying execute r the same vayne 0/15/0 players that say "we have late game guys"
gusty mirage
I mean outlaw does not have higher single target than assassination
slow marsh
Just farm
atomic finch
frigid pilot
https://tenor.com/view/blue-cry-sad-bad-day-gif-5337197
tldr, reroll dh or uh dk
gusty mirage
No
frigid pilot
415 puzzle on my dk gives me 5k dps LOL
thorn crater
just roll till u get SnC
gusty mirage
I don’t care about outlaw
frigid pilot
bruh
thorn crater
it is more than any other buffs combined
thorn crater
AS A SINGLE
slow marsh
Yeah it's the easiest reroll logic dver
gusty mirage
is assasin like best in slot for single target?>
No, unholy DK is
By a large amount too
gusty mirage
What am I explaining
frigid pilot
my trinket is 372
slow marsh
We're not allowed to be number 1 st unless it involves domination gems
frigid pilot
how the fuck a class can scale this hard off 1 item
subtle tundra
Idk
frigid pilot
army go brrr
subtle tundra
Uh got buffed
gusty mirage
how the fuck a class can scale this hard off 1 item
415 puzzle box was a 3400 dps upgrade over a 408 current technique for me so idk what you want me to explain
slow marsh
3400 dps??? Better nerf assassination
frigid pilot
this is not the dk discord
gusty mirage
https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-crying-face-gif-20235014
All 3 are good in ST, pick the one you like the most
frigid pilot
glacial shuttle
I'm actually kind of annoyed at these Sin changes. :/ Why are they changing Kingsblade capstone to an AoE capstone and moving Kingsblade into a capstone I didn't really try and go for before? Like wtf is the gain? Is the improvement just that if you want to play KB, you need to take less execute damage or less Garrote or no SBS? Wtf is that solving lol
gusty mirage
Outlaw better in cleave, sub better in aoe
frigid pilot
see you in there deathknight brother 🙂
frigid pilot
I'm actually kind of annoyed at these Sin changes. :/ Why are they changing King...
cus they hate sin players
and rogues
gusty mirage
I'm actually kind of annoyed at these Sin changes. :/ Why are they changing King...
You get an extra talent point
glacial shuttle
to spend where
atomic finch
im so confused right now wth
slow marsh
Execute
magic vine
dtb can get another capstone now, that was the point of the changes. but dtb AND kb is clearly gonna be nuts, so they combined them. they definitely need to juice kb up now though, its painfully behind
atomic finch
Outlaw better in cleave, sub better in aoe
thank you i knew that i just cant find someone to tell me if its playable in m+
gusty mirage
thank you i knew that i just cant find someone to tell me if its playable in m+
Assassination is playable in m+ but if you pug a lot you’re better off going outlaw or sub tbh
magic vine
well, people are still doing 20+ keys with it, and the dslice sim for sin is what, 90k? so its not unplayable
wind dune
its plenty playable im donig 20-21's not the highest of keys but its just more work then the other specs
gusty mirage
Assassination loses a LOT of value if a tank doesn’t appreciate and play around your strengths
wind dune
^^
magic vine
depending on your comp sin and iron wire can be very valuable
frigid pilot
99% of pug tanks I play with chain pull
magic vine
or if like oxi says you get a tank that doesn't play to you, you're gonna suffer
frigid pilot
And never let me get a re
glacial shuttle
nomore kb/dtb combined
I thought you couldn't get both of them together, am I talenting badly lol
wind dune
nothing more tilting then having to hold your vanish for re's since its a never ending pull 🙂 espeically last week with spiteful lol
prisma cypress
imagine playing a spec where your tank needs to slow down and pull differently just to accommodate you
magic vine
I thought you couldn't get both of them together, am I talenting badly lol
they're reducing one of the pre-dtb nodes from 3 points to 2 points so you can get another capstone in .5
dark bridge
Would you guys like if iron wire and shrouded weren't tired to stealth? And instead it only worked on the first garrote a target gets?
glacial shuttle
Assassination loses a LOT of value if a tank doesn’t appreciate and play around ...
bruh I tried playing Sin last week with grievous AND spiteful, jesus fucking christ that was awful
glacial shuttle
they're reducing one of the pre-dtb nodes from 3 points to 2 points so you can g...
yeah but I didn't even play DTB anyway lol xD
frigid pilot
Playing sin in keys is the 2023 version of cutting
Don’t do it kids
It gets better
hidden crown
yeah but I didn't even play DTB anyway lol xD
its easier
glacial shuttle
I don't play Rogue because I want it to be easy, I play it because I hate myself
lament warren
imagine playing a spec where your tank needs to slow down and pull differently j...
good thing that’s not us
lament warren
make 2 daggers and one sword Oo
yes
hidden crown
yes
hidden crown
idc about logs
If I dps more than a top specs and a Silvermoon player, Im having fun
frigid pilot
Obviously you don’t care about logs
hidden crown
The top damage for rogues on terros is an outlaw rogue....
Mythic
mechanics are diff i guess
dark token
The top damage for rogues on terros is an outlaw rogue....
Sins DOOMING
ionic fox
no
slow marsh
Yeah but it's been so tiring for that to just be the case all of last xpac and the 5 seconds sin was good before everyone got tier it gets nerfed 4 times
frigid pilot
Sim is so two thousand and late
subtle tundra
The top damage for rogues on terros is an outlaw rogue....
Cause outlaw does good st with high variance so with good rng that can happen
glacial shuttle
Sim is so two thousand and late
okay will.i.am
frigid pilot
Blizz is dumb
ionic fox
Out of the top 15 on terros 7 our outlaw
frigid pilot
They nerfed tanks after the m0 week
frigid pilot
BASED ON M0s man
if you don’t think they’ll never sin over normal logs you’re kidding yourself
ionic fox
for a ST only fight?
frigid pilot
for a ST only fight?
Welcome
frigid pilot
If you want to 1 trick 1 spec play outlaw
gusty mirage
Good luck rng can put outlaw and sub ahead of assassination
hidden crown
oxi is a true king
frigid pilot
Since it doesn’t suck balls on half the fights
lament warren
there’s plenty of other specs where they cannot do that
gusty mirage
4-4-7 split seems fine to me
hidden crown
Imma ruin Outlaw players whole carrier
ionic fox
4-4-7 outlaw on top of ST is fine to you?
lament warren
yes
gusty mirage
Why wouldn’t it be?
lament warren
it could be 15 and 0
frigid pilot
Because sin sucks in other areas the least they can do is make them always better in st
ionic fox
That isn't the case on fight woth any cleave
hidden crown
dont you ambush my comment @frigid pilot that's Outlaws whole rotation
lament warren
correct
glacial shuttle
idk kinda weird they can do the best ST and the best AoE for an entire class that's all DPS specs tbh.
gusty mirage
Yes I understand the terros fight
gusty mirage
Should assassination do more in ST? Well it does
lament warren
it’s really hard to keep designs unique and do that
gusty mirage
So dunno what to tell you guys
slow marsh
Hey guys at least we aren't surv hunters amiright
frigid pilot
Uh dk simming 96k single target
gusty mirage
Just because some cracked outlaw rogues got some good variance on their side
hidden crown
Hey guys at least we aren't surv hunters amiright
HA
ionic fox
no 7
gusty mirage
Doesn’t discredit assassinations ST
frigid pilot
You’re telling me every outlaw on terros had good variance?
slow marsh
He doesn't play outlaw he can read guys
magic vine
when you're looking at wcl top parses yea thats how that works
gusty mirage
You’re telling me every outlaw on terros had good variance?
Did I say that?
We’re discussing legit the top 15 parses
lament warren
it’s like
frigid pilot
Forget about the top 15
gusty mirage
If you want to bitch just to bitch
lament warren
they could have average rng and then 3 guzzles a minute
lament warren
there’s many reasons outlaw can be top
frigid pilot
If sin doesn’t get buffed tonight we riot
gusty mirage
I’m not whispyr, I’m not going to entertain this shit for 10 minutes
frigid pilot
And by riot I mean move to the riot mmo
glacial shuttle
there’s many reasons outlaw can be top
bribing the port authority to arrest sin/sub players
subtle kiln
@gusty mirage hi 
frigid pilot
What if every good sin player is locked somewhere and that’s why they are held back rn
lament warren
every good rogue player has either quit or is in raszageth prison
gusty mirage
Assassination is more than fine on all bosses
cursive olive
Hi fellow assassin
I was playing with the simbot, and I don't undestand why Bone Spike direct hit is so much higher (like x2) than my Detail VS a puppet. Do you guys have any tips or advice ?
hidden crown
I cant still do good dmg as Sub I just prefer Sin
gusty mirage
You can play sin for legit all 8 bosses and not troll
hidden crown
fr
subtle tundra
You can play sin for legit all 8 bosses and not troll
I'm always troll
Want to swap to tauren
gusty mirage
I'm always troll
Yeah but ily
hidden crown
I'm always troll
Lucky Im stuck with Worgen
gusty mirage
We’re sitting here crying that outlaw did more ST than us on terros where uhdk is demolishing all 3 specs lol
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
And has a brez, and amz
slim hamlet
yea but
frigid pilot
tbc
gusty mirage
And slappy hands
frigid pilot
the good old days
glacial shuttle
Okay but let Unholy have their fun oxi wtf
slim hamlet
when Sin is the st spec and the cleave spec is winning ST
slim hamlet
I think thats why people are despairigiging
lament warren
purple parsing in tbc
slow marsh
We’re sitting here crying that outlaw did more ST than us on terros where uhdk i...
Is this CN all over again?
frigid pilot
purple parsing in tbc
didnt have glaives
glacial shuttle
yeah unh worst spec two expacs running fr fr
/s
hidden crown
tbc is fucking ages ago
gusty mirage
Is this CN all over again?
Naturally
frigid pilot
gm war took first pair
hidden crown
you cant compare it
frigid pilot
lament warren
no shot 5% is glaives gap
lament warren
jesus
lament warren
good game
lament warren
lmfao
lament warren
i wanted to play tbc wotlk just never got into it
gusty mirage
I want an explanation as to why we get told “we won’t nerf top performing specs to being mediocre” and then a month later
frigid pilot
tbc was so fun
lament warren
and the game also isn’t challenging
gusty mirage
I see rogue being pretty fucking mediocre
ionic fox
I want an explanation as to why we get told “we won’t nerf top performing specs ...
Fair
frigid pilot
outlaw top tier, sin is the 3rd cousin
gusty mirage
Assassination got nerfed harder, why
ionic fox
^
subtle tundra
They are tits guys
frigid pilot
cus content creators play outlaw
gusty mirage
And if we got nerfed
gusty mirage
Why didn’t arcane get nerfed?
frigid pilot
they know if they nerf outlaw too hard wow viewership on twitch=dead
gusty mirage
Why didn’t BM get nerfed?
frigid pilot
same reason warriors r always good in pvp
gusty mirage
Why did uhdk and evoker get buffed
frigid pilot
too many youtubers
subtle tundra
This server be lucky I don't care anymore
frigid pilot
Why did uhdk and evoker get buffed
evoker cus its their hero class expo
uhdk i dont know
thats a mystery
hidden crown
Fr BM doing more dmg in aoe than Sub
subtle tundra
I'd be banned by whispyr for complaining so much
gusty mirage
Why did destro lock get buffed to the point where it beats all 3 rogues?
hidden crown
and doing better than Demonology
subtle tundra
Boomy getting away with lying
frigid pilot
3 specs
gusty mirage
Who the fuck balances this game
slow marsh
Put it on boss damage
spice spire
True bestie
fallow canopy
why can't we be happy that we are good instead of salty that there're better specs 
gusty mirage
Put it on boss damage
Trash tier to middle of the pack
glacial shuttle
Okay but that's because sin can't have both ST and aoe damage and excel in both whereas most of those top specs don't have to choose
dreamy elk
Dashing Scoundrel getting changed to a 2 pointer means it maxxes out at 10% crit strike on poisons + 10 energy on poison crits?
slow marsh
Trash tier to middle of the pack
As per usual
ionic fox
why can't we be happy that we are good instead of salty that there're better spe...
Not good because nerf nerf nerf
did too well in heroic
gusty mirage
And on top of that
ionic fox
exsang, echoing, fatal concoction, + 3%
gusty mirage
exsang, echoing, fatal concoction, + 3%
You forgot about the PB nerf like I did
spice spire
I don’t mind DTB (obviously)
gusty mirage
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
I don’t mind it either
spice spire
Build choice pretty cringles
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
It’s fuckinf awful
gusty mirage
It was drastically over performing
ionic fox
You forgot about the PB nerf like I did
PB?
frigid pilot
did that SIN ROGUE JUST BEAT ME ON TREE BOSS M0?
magic vine
at 3m its still a good talent yea
ionic fox
When did that get nerfed?
hidden crown
it was a 45sec CD
frigid pilot
so
gusty mirage
No in m0s
subtle tundra
<:gaspy:596504168454291456> did that SIN ROGUE JUST BEAT ME ON TREE BOSS M0?
Until you realize sub doubles sin on that boss 
subtle tundra
Our cleave would still be in shambles
spice spire
Our cleave would still be in shambles
You’ll always be in shambles king
I respect that grustle
fading wigeon
I am just going to cope that sin will make it back up next tier
they will do an aura buff, right
gusty mirage
Bandaid fixing it with a tier set
fading wigeon
right
frigid pilot
wanna know how u can protect yoself
gusty mirage
Hopefully they don’t fuck that one up, again
frigid pilot
from blizz
magic vine
hey at least you're not an obliterate frost dk
frigid pilot
WANNA KNOW?
gusty mirage
Reroll warlock
hidden crown
prob not They didnt care about the last 2 exp
jovial plinth
!neck
prisma monolithBOT
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.
gusty mirage
@spice spire I might unironically swap to my warlock
spice spire
prob not They didnt care about the last 2 exp
The heavy handed nature of nerfs has determined that they are too worried about that
hidden crown
till Sepulcher, with its bad ass tier set
frigid pilot
MOVE
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> I might unironically swap to my warlock
Especially for like kurog - broodkeeper
Can’t blame you
spice spire
frigid pilot
subtle tundra
Swap to dn
frigid pilot
gusty mirage
Why even bother playing melee
thorn fjord
Ive been really tempted to play DK lol @gusty mirage
gusty mirage
Sennarth Kurog and dathea
spice spire
gusty mirage
Is the worst fucking melee experience ever
frigid pilot
Ive been really tempted to play DK lol <@192059095279337473>
DO IT
hidden crown
UGH WHAT IS THAT
gray crest
dont we need a monk or something?
spice spire
Is the worst fucking melee experience ever
I’m so excited for mythic sennarth 
hidden crown
HONEY THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE WEARING RIGHT
frigid pilot
1 day /played alrdy 2200 in solo, 56k sim, u can do it too dieslow
gusty mirage
I’m so excited for mythic sennarth <:Cheesin:1004094333458317332>
Oh yeah, 10/10 experience
Fun fight
spice spire
dont we need a monk or something?
Reroll mage boy
glacial shuttle
Main's an evoker, my rogue is for my second raid guild, honestly actually might just make a second evoker lmao.
gusty mirage
Assuming your definition of fun is shoving needles into your nutsack
frigid pilot
sin channel making ppl reroll away from rogue since 1999
spice spire
Assuming your definition of fun is shoving needles into your nutsack
You know me so well oomfie
gusty mirage
Whoever designed sennarth needs to be fired
gray crest
I dont have enough time in my day to gear another character
storm onyx
not sure the reasoning was keeping the speck in check due to the gear funneling in world 1st race but it hurt us bad
hidden crown
Undertale - Spiderdance
spice spire
I dont have enough time in my day to gear another character
I respect that. Heavily
gusty mirage
Dunno man
spice spire
I barely have enough time in the day to gear the one
glacial shuttle
Game sucks, I’m swapping to a worse game
see you in league, king
gusty mirage
I’m a poe main now
frigid pilot
Whoever designed sennarth needs to be fired
i got your sennarth right here
ionic fox
Can't believe I skipped Tarkov wipe to play Rogue again 💔
glacial shuttle
lol
gusty mirage
At least I can suffer in silence alone in poe
And experience the same pain of a company nerfing all the builds I like for no reason
spice spire
gusty mirage
For $0 a month
gusty mirage
I’d rather play in traffic
frigid pilot
LOL
subtle kiln
@spice spire is assa still good? people are questioning Oxi and now I’m conflicted.
ionic fox
assa is ass
spice spire
It’s mid
gray crest
You have yet to play dinosaurs with us big @gusty mirage