assassination

[oblique tangle]

instead of applying 4 of them one by one :(

[neat plank]

poison presets?

oh

it WOULD be nice ;P

i thought it was in game 🙂

[oblique tangle]

No, but it shoudl be :(

[neat plank]

I dunno, I kinda like it ;D, like for example playing cards irl Vs. online. The fact that you don't have to shuffle them online isn't really an advantage

i wanna FEEL the application of all those poisons

makes you feel very assassiny

[oblique tangle]

I'll also accept being able to not lose my pioisons all the damn time even though they still have time left

[spice spire]

They’re really trying to push us into kb!

[oblique tangle]

Like entering an instance

[spice spire]

Big assassination won’t let you hear their secrets

[oblique tangle]

Or dying sometimes or some shit?

[grim tangle]

they should just last forever, no reason for them to only last one hour

[oblique tangle]

Sometimes they hit 30 min and jsut vanish

[spice spire]

It’s every time you instance or change instances (including zones as I’ve learned)

[neat plank]

my title goes away whenever i relog

poisons so far have been fine 🙂

[spice spire]

Do you run DTB?

[neat plank]

no, is that a DTB issue?

[spice spire]

Yes

[neat plank]

sounds annoying then, having to reapply 4 poisons all the time

[oblique tangle]

See I'm not unreasonable :(

[slim hamlet]

it is

[peak bobcat]

If I see an assassination rogue in my queue im denying them too

[dark token]

Yes unless it's loktark

[somber fjord]

is there a standard Ritual Shell buff for assasination

mastery or fire dmg

[spice spire]

One would think mastery

[blazing totem]

real question is why do we still have to manually reapply poisons at all, brings no gameplay whatsoever except the oopsie moment where you forget to reapply before boss

[dark token]

It's always mastery

Trinket is bugged and reverts to mastery any time u die

So just keep it as mastery

[blazing totem]

they could at least buff the duration if they want to keep it for immersion value

[oblique tangle]

It's a good question but I felt like I'd be tioo judged for asking it because muh class fantasy

[slim hamlet]

Maybe that will be the solution for the bug

surely it is easier than to fix

[blazing totem]

I feel like with DTB it's become silly to reapply 4 poisons constantly

[grim briar]

@balmy condor is it possible to add an "updated on XXX date" to the FAQ, so we know if it has changed since last looking at it?

[blazing totem]

it's not even "reapply every hour" but more like every 45 mins since boss fight can last a while and you don't want to drop poisons during boss fight

plus the bug atm

[gusty mirage]

I’d insta decline you especially

[gentle roost]

dtb becomes much better with exsang nerf right?

[gusty mirage]

[oblique tangle]

MY GOD I LEFT THE INSTANCE AND WENT TO DO A QUEST

Pulled aoe

[peak bobcat]

True I do say stupid things in here

[slim hamlet]

A bit

[oblique tangle]

COuldn't figur eout why I had no energy and mbos were very fast

xD Blizzard PLEASE

[slim hamlet]

It's not very often your exsang would line up anyways

[gusty mirage]

But ily so it’s okay

[slim hamlet]

Only every 5th cast unless im mistraken

[wary ice]

the biggest troll is that deadly poison doesnt replace instant poison

the number of times i've been doing fights in insta wondering why the spec sucks is higher than 0

[slim hamlet]

Which it still will I suppose

[peak bobcat]

I remember when oxi was a red name

[bitter monolith]

does anyone have a talent list for leveling as assassination?

[peak bobcat]

Long long ago

[slim hamlet]

wowhead

[outer iris]

Guys, dont really know where shall i ask this question, but i got answers from you everytime, so lets try, if i completed all the Mythic dungeons this week, can i help my friends and join their runs? ofc i know i wont have any loot

[slim hamlet]

You can join as long as you arent leader

[oblique tangle]

Take things that keep you alive I guess?

[outer iris]

Great, thank you!

[stray jetty]

whats the crafted set to buy at 70?

[peak bobcat]

Sim it

[restive falcon]

which piece should i craft that is in the "tier piece" slot

[peak bobcat]

No

[restive falcon]

i tohught gloves were bis to tract

craft*

[peak bobcat]

Don’t craft in tier

Bad

[night delta]

??? not all tier is available above crafted ilvl

[restive falcon]

i was looking at the faq for assass and i may have read over it

[night delta]

afaik

[halcyon arch]

Yo, I got a question for you guys. If I'm playing DTB should I line up shiv with deathmark?

[restive falcon]

but i thought u wanted 4piece then 1 of them to be the crafted piece

[peak bobcat]

Why

[night delta]

cuz you don't need 5 pieces for bonus ? And might benefit from better stats ?

I think 3 pieces aren't available at ilvl above crafted anyway

or 2

[restive falcon]

cause assass is haste/mastery stats right and the shoulders r crit/vers so would it be worth crafting my crafted shoulders and it haste haste/mastery stats?

[night delta]

more like crit mastery actually

haste you want not too much of

[restive falcon]

oh it was crit, i forgot

[peak bobcat]

PLEASE read the faq

It’s in there

[restive falcon]

yea im tryna find it lmao

[peak bobcat]

Everything else: Agi > Crit > Mast wherever possible```
Crafted/Embellished Items:

- Bronzed Grip Wrappings Offhand (+1.0%)
- Elemental Lariat Neck (+0.8%)
- Fang Adornments Offhand (+0.7%)
- Leatherworking Snowball Set (+0.4% per item - Needs both items)```

Gotcha

[night delta]

you can have crafted that's not embellished

btw

it won't limit

[restive falcon]

yea i remember that i just was tryna remember which tier slot you upgraded with crafted gear cause it was better than the tier gear

[peak bobcat]

Sim it

When the time comes

[flint gulch]

Is the dragon Tempered Blades Build wroth considering?

[night delta]

yeah, simming it is the most sensible solution

[alpine latch]

Might be a dumb question but for the snowball set, what two items do we go? It's a 3-item set that requires 2 items for the bonus

[peak bobcat]

Yes

[night delta]

definitely

[peak bobcat]

Not double tier

[restive falcon]

well im 375 without my crafted piece yet is why im asking

[alpine latch]

fuck, right - we get tier again

I really need caffeine

[peak bobcat]

Same

[night delta]

snowball you can go gloves + bracers i think ?

[alpine latch]

I think the most sleep I've gotten in the last 7 months was 7 hours one night. Most nights I'm getting like 2-3. It makes it insanely hard to focus

[flint gulch]

I have trouble when i have to much keys i need to press if they go above 18 19 ish keys. thats why i was asking since a passive talents cuts down the keys by one

[swift dagger]

Anyone know if Raidbots APL is updated for Exsang nerf or is it using the old Exsang until reset?

[halcyon arch]

Old exsang

Just simmed it

[swift dagger]

Thank you

[peak bobcat]

Yeah gloves is tier

Fr fr just make the neck boys

[night delta]

neck + wrappings for now is the safest bet yes

[swift dagger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[stiff garden]

Hey guys, I just looked around and wasn't able to find any resource for trinket priorities. Could someone please tell me where I might find them?

[peak bobcat]

Guaranteed crit mastery neck with 3 sockets is so op

[swift dagger]

Does it really have 3 sockets ?

[peak bobcat]

You can put 3 on it with the tiered setting

I have a crit mastery neck with 3 sockets

[swift dagger]

Sorry but I have no idea what you mean by tiered setting

you lost me there

ohh I see now

[gloomy plinth]

Is ER really vital to the spec?

[spice spire]

ER very good

We get the legendary effect too that makes it infinitely better

[gloomy plinth]

The stock UI combo bar that appears beneath the health bar under you is so stupendously erroneous that it makes it impossible to tell how many CP I have, let alone whether they’re in one of the charged slots.

[thorn fjord]

Think its still bugged @gloomy plinth

Hi friends

[spice spire]

Greetings

[gloomy plinth]

Oh it for certain is.

So Dance does not work out for sin?

[spice spire]

Dance is like

A 6% loss iirc

[alpine latch]

Sadly neither are available for 2 weeks

[peak bobcat]

It’s a literal item

[gloomy plinth]

Blargh.

[peak bobcat]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=192992/tiered-medallion-setting @swift dagger

[foggy flume]

!bs

[prisma monolith]

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

[peak bobcat]

DTB with 2 points in Zold

👀 the new sauce

[swift dagger]

yeah I realized after, I couldnt find anything by just searching Tiered Setting without the Medallion part so I was confused for a while :p

[peak bobcat]

Sorry I should’ve clarified

[swift dagger]

Excuse me but what do you mean by not being available? Did i understand wrong how to upgrade item level of crafted items

[versed rapids]

just be careful with that setting though. if you have 1 socket and do 2 star craft, you still only get 2 sockets. you need a 3 star craft to get all 3

[alpine latch]

You cannot craft the necklace or the wrappings yet

[swift dagger]

I swear I saw the neck on someone recently but maybe I misremember

[alpine latch]

Wrappings drop from raid and Lariat drops from Primalists which isn't open yet

There are a ton of WOs for it, but it's physically impossible for either to be crafted right now

[swift dagger]

I see, thanks!

[strange python]

You could craft the dagger and just not put wrappings on it until you upgrade it

[upper swift]

does iron wire's silence proc during the 3 sec allowed from IG? Or only if its the first move from stealth

[slim hamlet]

what do you mean by wrappings?

[strange python]

I assume the wrapping they're talking about is the embellishment you add to the dagger

You can add an embellishment when you upgrade

[slim hamlet]

Oh yeah

Isn't it only on the crafter side?

[obtuse latch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[thorn crater]

@strange python u can upgrade the dagger to higher ilvl later correct?

wont have to craft with full mats again

[strange python]

Yes

[thorn crater]

so i guess its the most efficient use of the first innovation thing

i was considering a life bound piece but

scared of potential tier item overlapping

[pale plank]

which buff are we supposed to use with this trinket?

[spice spire]

Mastery

It’s the only one working full time rn anyway

[dawn kelp]

Is this an ideal dmg break down? 5min ish on dummy

[dark token]

yes ideal

https://tenor.com/bL7aZ.gif

not a single imperfection

down to the most minute detail

[dawn kelp]

🫡

[vale shore]

That is one dead target dummy

[subtle tundra]

i love when there's a farm, it gets popular and then gets nerfed 2 days later 🙂

now i really wont do wrathion farm

[spice spire]

[uncut garnet]

is there a discussion regarding optimal spark of inspiration usage?

[alpine latch]

It's in the FAQ

[uncut garnet]

tyty

[alpine latch]

Look for the "crafted/embellished items" bolded text

[stray jetty]

is there a list of things you should start doing when you hit 70

[spice spire]

No, but it generally starts with M0s, lower dungeons, rare farming, rep grind. Etc. some bit of combination of that

[gusty mirage]

I'm only halfway through fang with sabellian

rip to my fire mammoth

😦

[alpine latch]

I went Wrathion first. I think I need ~100 more framings

I'll do Sab as I go

I created this yesterday but didn't update anything before I logged out - if anyone wants to use it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Vfpt5vZZEIJavTQfCwWG583GI3tkO0sA0JUYYCxkZw/edit?usp=sharing

It's just a faction tracker to tell you how many more turn ins you need, it's nothing special but it gets the job done

I eventually want to make it with oauth so you can sign in and it'll tell you that automagically, I just haven't had the time

[gusty mirage]

I was planning on finishing sab tonight

I'm like 1/3 of the way through fang

[heavy plover]

whats the best professions for rogue (gear wise) is it leatherworking?

[alpine latch]

IDK that there is a best, really - leather can make the most slots but that doesn't mean that you're going to want to fill all of them with LW gear

[steel ridge]

does raidbots sim the primal ritual shell always with mastery proc?

or does it recognise the current buff you have

[spice spire]

Pretty sure it’s mastery only rn

[dark token]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-thanos-nerd-alert-opinion-nerd-gif-26272469

[alpine latch]

It's 100% worth being a nerd, ngl

[halcyon arch]

!fuu

[slim sphinx]

quick stupid question, can I remove serrated bone spike from a target dummy?

[alpine latch]

no, but if you run away it should drop combat

[slim sphinx]

ok, thanks

[alpine latch]

It'll drop eventually on it's own - you just need to get out of combat with it

[oblique tangle]

We can't do regular mythics yet, right?

[spice spire]

M+ no

Mythics 0s yes

[oblique tangle]

Got'cha

[cerulean nest]

anyone encounter any side quests that gave you scaled up daggers? ive been out of luck

[oblique tangle]

I was excited about these 356 crit/mastery bracers :(

[alpine latch]

You should 100% be doing m0 dungeons..

[oblique tangle]

I've no idea, I was lucky enoguh to get a 363 out of the ohn'ara chest

[alpine latch]

m0 drops 372

[oblique tangle]

Yeah but some of us don't have the ilvl for it yet

[alpine latch]

You don't need the item level - just start a group and go

3 of our members were ~340 when we started our first mythic

[oblique tangle]

That seems like a lot of work and dealing with random toxic guys getting amd when they check your ilvl

[rapid yacht]

hows everyones single target damage? Is 20k low?

[alpine latch]

I mean, yeah - that's the game though.. It's the first week, no one expects you to be 390 item level

[oblique tangle]

wtf even is m0 ilvl anyway?

[alpine latch]

Just a regular ole Mythic dungeon

It's 372

My group had 3 people around 340 item level and we did all 8 in a little under 4 hours

[spice spire]

I was 320 running mine and it felt more than fine

I was a bit tho

[oak sky]

nah man you can be like 300 ilvl in m0s

[spice spire]

Uh. I just did a sim on st and at 366 it’s about 40k

[spice spire]

100%.
But I was getting blasted by Vhispyr at 356

[oak sky]

i got blasted by dekai

but it doesnt matter

[spice spire]

Real

Imma tell myself that one

[oak sky]

💀

[spice spire]

I was also running some troll ass builds

[oak sky]

it only matters once your gear is caught up

[spice spire]

Took sbs over kb

[oak sky]

yeah man i played dtb for like 2 keys then was like

nevermind

and i went ic/kb

[spice spire]

IC/SbS is not the play

[cerulean nest]

ive done everything lol

[spice spire]

But IC/KB pretty POGGERS

[cerulean nest]

still just chillin on 366 pvp weapons bc they literally havent dropped from any content

[oak sky]

m0s arent everything though you could definitely not do them and just do m+ when it drops tbh

the gear is gonna get phased out really fast

its just something to do

[spice spire]

You been hunting your rares sir?

🤨

[cerulean nest]

guys

ive done literally everything lol

im just unlucky

[spice spire]

They reset daily 🤨

[frosty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[cerulean nest]

omg

[oak sky]

i have double 372 daggy

[spice spire]

Even ripclaw 🤨

Dual 369

[oak sky]

L

[cerulean nest]

if you send that face again lmao

[spice spire]

🤨

[oak sky]

get higher average quake

[spice spire]

So true bestie

343 pants bringing me down man

[frosty flame]

nothing from fisherman 🤔🤔

[oak sky]

if i had a better neck i would probably be like 370

which would be ok

[opal beacon]

i should be fine to main assassination right? been a minute since ive played assassination

[oak sky]

yeah play whatever

[spice spire]

I’ll be 370 next week

Unless I get omega unlucky

[frosty flame]

let's all just mindlessly grind wrathion/sab rep for 389 neck and cloak

[oak sky]

same oomfie

[spice spire]

[alpine latch]

Half of me wants to, the other half wants to take 3 dramamine and go to sleep

[heavy plover]

is this updated with the exsang change?

[fleet imp]

Yea should be, before it was simming 96k+

[heavy plover]

awesome, thanks so we're still on top out of the 3 specs for st sim

[spice spire]

Yes

And yes

[subtle tundra]

well thats the only thing assa is good now

pure st

uwu

[spice spire]

It feels fine in dungeons

[subtle tundra]

lets go!!

[spice spire]

Still

[subtle tundra]

feels fine, sure

but compare to sub/outlaw

how is it

🙂

[shell niche]

[heavy plover]

maybe thats the price to pay for sin being strong in raid

i think it will be better than outlaw in the raid and outlaw will be better in m+

[brittle magnet]

Hey guys, new assa rogue here, im struggeling to understand the AoE damage we do, is it really just about pumping FOK into envenom ?

[neat plank]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[subtle tundra]

its slightly better than sub in st

[knotty vapor]

🤤

[subtle tundra]

whats your point

[trim zinc]

spread garrotes ct and rupture, thats what i do at least , use your ic and vanish to help u with that

like i can be wrong, but thats what im doing

[rapid yacht]

So am i not supposed to use deathmark before exsanguinate?

[spice spire]

Correct

[rapid yacht]

ahhhh

[spice spire]

Death mark is a bleed too

If you Exsang it, you half its duration

[rapid yacht]

but i thought it did the damage with exsanguinate, but now i know

[neat plank]

yeah but doesnt it tick twice as fast?

[rapid yacht]

thats what i thought, but from what im reading, you want it to go the full duration

[spice spire]

Correct

If you Exsang before, they get copied at double ticking for longer

[tulip dawn]

Why do we want to sync vanish and deathmark?

[spice spire]

So it’s a damage gain to Exsang before dm

[spice spire]

Improved garrote

[rapid yacht]

bc of improved garote

garote does double damage if cast from invis

[tulip dawn]

Gotcha, thanks

[dawn jolt]

Is DTB better raid spec because when new to raids you wont get as much execute damage?

[heavy plover]

making my point still stand that its the best out the three speaking soley on sims that was my point

[tulip dawn]

Is there a way to reset serrated bone strike off target dummies?

[rapid yacht]

leave the area i believe lol

[spice spire]

Run far away

[tulip dawn]

lmao like how far?

[spice spire]

Until you can restealth

It was a bit in sl

[tulip dawn]

I can restealth right next to the dummy while it still has the bled on it lol

[spice spire]

[rapid yacht]

server is too laagy to work on anything but dungeons right now lol

[balmy condor]

actually need to run so far away that it un-loads your shard

sometimes you can cheese it with like a quest-state area that phases you

[exotic parcel]

The opening burst in M+ with Indiscriminate carnage is so much fun

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

other times need to run to the next zone

[spice spire]

I love sbs so much

Unironically but this one wasn’t it

Ig it was lucky that the staircase to the dummies had some phasing ig?

[balmy condor]

yeh the necro hall had some quest-state phasing that allowed it

[spice spire]

[trim zinc]

u can log out and log in 2

[tulip dawn]

So should I never use shiv outside of Kingsbane? Or am I able to always fit a charge in and have 2 for kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

2 charges are 50 seconds, kingsbane is 60

have to hold both

[tulip dawn]

Ah thought it was 20 per charge not 25

got it, thanks!

[lusty surge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[tulip dawn]

When casting Exsang, do you not want to refresh garrote and rupture in the pandemic window, or is it fine to do so?

[burnt latch]

hi guys i hope u all have a wonderful day and a great week

[spice spire]

You as well mister Warcieft

[burnt latch]

thank you kind sir

[tame slate]

#assassination-faq

The opener there will get you started. I forget exactly where the breakpoint is for whether you should dump into Tempest or Envenom, but I have been dumping CP into CT at 6 target

[balmy condor]

after you hit exsang you let the dots drop

[brittle magnet]

Seems like im playing a single target spec, and not really an AOE spec for m+, gonna try it out tomorrow thanks

[night iris]

Did some M0s

But I am so overwhelmed with the amount of buttons we now have

[spice spire]

It is quite a bit

[spice spire]

That works

[night iris]

I like ER more than I thought I would

[tame slate]

Yeah we're still ST biased, but IC helps get our damage up much quicker than we used to be able to on multi-target. Also it will probably depend on what modifiers the M+ has.

[tulip dawn]

Do I want to reapply Garrote right before the ER > Rupture > Exsang combo? Or is it fine to Exsang even a low duration garrote?

[balmy condor]

definitely not fine to have a low duration anything

part of exsang is you have to force refresh to max

[tulip dawn]

Got it, thanks! Exsang only affects Garrote and Rupture? (And DM, but you're not suppose to use it if you just cast DM)

[subtle tundra]

dots

bleeds*

so ct

[thorn fjord]

Havent been able to play since Thurs and im annoyed that im pretty behind with renown/rep grind

sitting at 370 IL tho

[subtle tundra]

its ok i can play and i dont get rep

[thorn fjord]

Whats you IL right now?

[subtle tundra]

367

[thorn fjord]

Ah ok

[tulip dawn]

Is it a goal to have 100% uptime on Envenoms buff, or is it likely to fall off at times?

[midnight atlas]

not a goal for that

1 envenom every 4s is impossible

while maintaining everything else

[subtle tundra]

envenom buff is longer than 4seconds

[tulip dawn]

It's 10 right?

[subtle tundra]

up to 7 + pandemic

8 actually with er

[spice spire]

Even in guide 80% is about where you’ll land

[tulip dawn]

Okay, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something by letting envenom drop

[night iris]

I guess it is more important with dtb

But you also have less to do with dtb

[late veldt]

Ok

[limpid drum]

Man, I just tried Outlaw single target builds. So glad I'm an assboi

[subtle tundra]

i like boobies

[limpid drum]

It felt so good doing the single target, but I checked the meter and was doing a solid 10k less than my assassin build.

🤷‍♂️

[swift dagger]

I mean, if you enjoyed the gameplay it might be worth practicing it. Cant expect to outperform your main spec instantly

[limpid drum]

Fan the hammer making pistol shot shoot 3 shots or w/e was just a little bananas. It felt cool

But the numbers are smol pp

[swift dagger]

thats just your numbers aka lack of practice

[limpid drum]

AOE is braindead good on Outlaw too.

I sim 6k lower as well 🤷‍♂️

Certainly lots of room to improve, yea.

I will spam some heroics as outlaw maybe.

[tacit otter]

thats what it should be right?

[swift dagger]

on a dummy though, the difference isnt even that big cuz no execute and we still have pre-nerf Exsang

[limpid drum]

Well, sim 6k lower, perform 10k lower, yea.

So my bad play has a ~4-5k delta

[idle coyote]

I had a lot of trouble too getting sequences down

[limpid drum]

I feel like I need a weak aura to tell me if my dice roll was good.

[swift dagger]

there exists some

[limpid drum]

Been doing assassin since legion, it's just so second nature.

[dense cedar]

Exsanging CT is pretty funny

[swift dagger]

https://wago.io/g-iov58mx

[limpid drum]

Thanks dawg

[dense cedar]

rtb wa in this chat smh

[swift dagger]

np dog i want u to keep an open look for a spec u enjoyed the gamplay

[limpid drum]

IM SORRY OKAY

[swift dagger]

i personally am a full rogue enjoyer i enjoy everything i am literal enjoyer.

life's good

[limpid drum]

If it makes you feel better, I RP as a poison boi

And take the middle tree.

[tame egret]

man i just dont get echoing reprimand guys. playing with resounding clarity feel like it's taking me 25-30 seconds to get through the stacks of ER. is that normal lol. am i missing something

[dense cedar]

pog set

[swift dagger]

u dont have to hurry with them though

they literally last 45 seconds right

[tame slate]

Correct

You'll most likely hit all 3 animacharge before they fall off

[late veldt]

Dude that belt

[earnest imp]

just saw dratnoses tier list thingie where they mocked sin

fuckers

[tame egret]

true. thanks

[limpid drum]

I might have looted a new belt and didn't remog.

[swift dagger]

literal fallic belt

[late veldt]

No No No it looks like a

Wang

[swift dagger]

a dong, if you will

[late veldt]

Can't be unseen

[next edge]

Dratnos

[limpid drum]

Bbrroo I hadn't seen it. Jesus

I see it.

[balmy condor]

dratnos tier listing assassination

classic

[south pollen]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[earnest imp]

this time it was placed in B with BM hunters

[hexed root]

is there a big difference between tauren and high mountain tauren or which is better? Fuu's spreadsheet just says tuaren

[limpid drum]

Man

[late veldt]

I want it

[balmy condor]

little to no difference

races are kinda whatever

[dense cedar]

Regular tauren get better cosmetics iirc

[hexed root]

little to no difference but enough of a difference to be on the spreadsheet?

[balmy condor]

there are many things on the spreadsheet

[tame slate]

The spreadsheet reveals many secrets

[idle coyote]

[thin ingot]

we will scale better with gear

right?

[hexed root]

right so if it's relevant to be part of that data gotta be enough of a difference to note no?

[dawn jolt]

If I am at 4 out of 6 combo points is do I envenom or use mutilate and risk overcap combo points

[tame slate]

Not necessarily. It's there if people actually care enough for the 1%

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-wave-bye-gif-15387504

[limpid drum]

Tauren basically get a point in lethality 😵‍💫

[spice spire]

You go agane

Seal fate is unavoidable

[balmy condor]

I never said everything is relevant

[abstract helm]

Is the Algeth'ar Puzzle Box worth using? It's a lot of mastery, maybe just use pre-pull?

[idle coyote]

Panda rogue is the way

[spice spire]

It’s worth

[idle coyote]

Literally unable to be killed by fall damage

[tame slate]

If that's what you wanna do then go for it. I just think most players aren't gonna be at the point where their race is noticeably affecting their numbers

[swift dagger]

Yo guys hear me out: 2x Shivs, DTB no KB. Any Shiv usage optimization available aside from dont cap charges? This was the top ST build in Fuu's simulation sheet.

[balmy condor]

shame it's not the top DTB then I guess

[teal bloom]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[strange python]

Wait did i miss the me@o

Exang is going to be a 3 min cooldown

[swift dagger]

Idk then, I was just going by assumption that it was the top build since it was listed as so.

[balmy condor]

yep

an assumption many people make

[swift dagger]

Actual top build would be at Wowhead guide I assume next?

[balmy condor]

faq

I update the FaQ faster than wowhead

the sheet is just fuu's thing

I have no input on that

[swift dagger]

Thanks for answers

[hexed root]

is sin still top spec w/ the nerf?

[balmy condor]

yes

[subtle tundra]

good cause i want assa to be buffed in aoe

incoming buff will be like 30 second ic

[slim hamlet]

plus applies exsang to all targets

[subtle tundra]

surely they cant buff something else so we can compare in damage

[subtle tundra]

no go away

[balmy condor]

this would actually be a nerf to IC

[slim hamlet]

[night iris]

I am already happy I don't have to take it

Would be a damage loss in my hands

[slim hamlet]

I love tier lists

[balmy condor]

yeah that's actually the dumbest fucking tier list I've ever seen

[slim hamlet]

They're usually quite rough

[subtle tundra]

i mean, assa's single good thing in m+ was just nerfed

[slim hamlet]

but these last ones they've made has been extremely rough

[limpid drum]

Enhance shaman is pretty lit.

[subtle tundra]

(damage wise)

[slim hamlet]

Wonder if this was made before or after tuning

[limpid drum]

I wanted to let you know you're all a lot cooler than the Arcane mages discord.

[subtle tundra]

thanks

do you want to get flamed?

i can do that on-demand

[slim hamlet]

Rogue is BIS discord

[balmy condor]

reminder that when dratnos spread misinformation about the 9.2 tier set for sin, he ghosted my dm and then tripled down on it

[slim hamlet]

Skill issue on your part

[night iris]

Why would he do that

What is there to gain

[balmy condor]

not having to admit you were wrong

[slim hamlet]

Also saw a couple of different youtubers say that exsang will be completely useless and sin will probably completely die because of it

[swift dagger]

Im generally guessing its his ego

[slim hamlet]

that was great

[oak sky]

💀 double damage in vendetta

[balmy condor]

would you mind tell me who

[subtle tundra]

yea random youtubers dont know shit about specifics in specs

[slim hamlet]

2 sec

[balmy condor]

whenever this shit happens, I like to make a couple phone calls

[limpid drum]

I did stop using exang now, I know it's still better, but it's like.. less better and frees up a keybinds and gives me sweet sweet freedom.

[slim hamlet]

That dog is still BIS

[spice spire]

George would like a word

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

whispyr can you make assa do like 15% more aoe

out of your ass

[slim hamlet]

It's a rather newer youtuber called Izen Hart, he said exsang would be unplayable and that outlaw was superior across the board

Usually his videos are pretty good and informative, but that one thing was a bit weird

[night iris]

Well he is right on exsanf being unplayable

[limpid drum]

All we need is to reduce 1 talent point in the middle tree so we can get DTB and IC

[slim hamlet]

Don't remember who said sin would be unplayable in general tho

[limpid drum]

So maybe let ass rogues get level 71. Seems legit.

[slim hamlet]

DTB over KB

[limpid drum]

I only have 20 binds.

[slim hamlet]

Make more

[limpid drum]

Maybe I can buy a foot pedal

[idle coyote]

I just bonded keys to my electric keyboard

It’s easier that way

[slim hamlet]

I have speech to text

[night iris]

An orb weaver for every foot

[slim hamlet]

Easy gaming

[tame egret]

maybe dumb question but can i press exsang, then deathmark, but not vice versa?
or can i not combine them at all

[teal bloom]

The on use agility trinket is used when you cast deathmark, right?

[slim hamlet]

exsang then dm is legal

other way around is banned

[spice spire]

Zeratule moment

[tame egret]

perfect answer ty

[idle coyote]

Sometimes I panic and manually click my defensives

[limpid drum]

Sometimes I manually click my orc racial, trinket use macro

[spice spire]

I click sprint and cloak

I’m demonic tho

Don’t be like me

[subtle tundra]

you fucking are

[limpid drum]

Best keybinds tip I can give you is shift+space

[night iris]

Do we macro trinkets to deathmark?

[limpid drum]

Very easy to hit, I use it for all my movement spells

[night iris]

Shift W for mount

[idle coyote]

I got everything binded 5tgv over

[limpid drum]

I macro cloak to mutilate.

[slim hamlet]

"youre in combat"

24/7

no thank you

[idle coyote]

I was raised on legacy keys invoker, forged in the fire

[night iris]

This never happens for me

[limpid drum]

You're never in combat?

[idle coyote]

He literally never leaves stealth

[night iris]

I've never had that message pop up

[slim hamlet]

You never click shift and w same time?

randomly in combat

[swift dagger]

cant be in combat when you never open on an enemy

[night iris]

Nope

[limpid drum]

I do, shift + movement keys are no go.

[strange python]

Tfw your guilds assigned weaponsmiths goes swords instead of daggers

[slim hamlet]

I would 24 7

[limpid drum]

Specially when I'm keyboard turning and hit shift

[spice spire]

Don’t they know my st is bonkers man

[night iris]

My Sprint is on shift Q

[slim hamlet]

That feeling when your guild dont organize professions

[swift dagger]

Better than my guild with 0 jewelcrafters

[night iris]

So if I am already holding W it doesn't tell me you're in combat

[slim hamlet]

So I just did all professions

[strange python]

We organized professions but half them haven't even started leveling it because they wanted to lvl alts

[spice spire]

That’s outta pocket

[slim hamlet]

Also a lie

[limpid drum]

Jewelcrafting is such a trap

[slim hamlet]

Didn't do tailoring

[limpid drum]

Don't prospect expecting a profit

[spice spire]

Nah nah nah. My guild hella casual and I made sure our crafters were bricked up

[slim hamlet]

But I'm 70+ in all other profs

[swift dagger]

neck is good tho

[strange python]

I'm low-key salty about it but don't wanna start shit

[spice spire]

Only ones lacking is the same bs+jc guy because he took a while about it

[slim hamlet]

And currently grinding renown on all alts, just got renown 10 for all on my main

[spice spire]

Tbh it’ll be replaced In a few weeks anyway

[strange python]

One of ours is gonna miss the knowledge from the weekly and Darkmoon

[spice spire]

But it’s still shitty ngl

[limpid drum]

My neck is extra powerful, I practice by pressing it against a wall very hard.

[strange python]

I mean dagger is BIS

[viscid spear]

[strange python]

And sure I'll have to upgrade it and add embellish anyways

[spice spire]

Yeah once you redraft for a bit

[strange python]

But it'd be nice to have it in guild instead of finding one in trade

[slim hamlet]

Isntt it myffic qual at max?

[strange python]

Like I expected

[spice spire]

I’m sending you stuff to d/e all the time buddy! Get awoken

[spice spire]

Agreed

[viscid spear]

Thus the

[strange python]

418. So it'll be 6 below diurna dagger, but that thing has dog water stat weights and can't have the weapon embellishment

[spice spire]

This week is going to be a hard push for mats and drafted stuff tho

[viscid spear]

DEing one thing at a time is tedious, and I need to DE purples to get higher

[slim hamlet]

Yea so quite a bit of crafted will be bis

[spice spire]

This week run n+ and give nothing up

[slim hamlet]

If not imma stop grinding renown on 3 alts

[strange python]

Also, I'm not sure how upgrading works. If I upgrade it with the primal infusions but it's not quality5 then I have to get more primal infusions and do it again?

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

I’m not 100% sure but I think so

[viscid spear]

Already doing that ngl

[strange python]

And you could theoretically get a 418 by like...week 2? If the infusions come from m+ as well?

I guess we just have to wait and see where the infusions come from and how farmable they are

[slim hamlet]

Cant wait to farm for the necklace recipe for 2 months and not get it

[strange python]

Comes from the primal storms that come out with the raid I think

TBD on drop rate

[slim hamlet]

Yes I know

But I just know

[strange python]

Grand hunts are also supposed to drop the LW leg enchant and I haven't seen anyone get one yet

[slim hamlet]

When it's drop chance

there is a 0% chance

[strange python]

The pattern will be BoE, surely

[slim hamlet]

I did however get the infurious alloy recipe from warchest yesterday, and learned it insta without thinking

Was 190k on ah

[spice spire]

Yeah I guess that’s true

Mf tryna get me bricked up on accident

Damn

[strange python]

I just wanna know where the mats come from, and what to expect from farming 😦

I don't like not knowing

[slim hamlet]

Which mats?

[strange python]

Primal chaos+primal something get fused into primal infusion

Which is how you make crafted gear 405/418

[idle coyote]

Alright who has simmed at 242 ilevel

[slim hamlet]

prob some m+/raid drop shit

[strange python]

But the primal something is suspected to be a raid/m+ drop.

[spice spire]

I’ve only simmed at 266

[idle coyote]

What was single target

[strange python]

No one knows what key level (presumably over 15, but maybe 20) and if they're soammable

[spice spire]

40.6 without enchants, 46.5 with

[idle coyote]

Ok cool

I’m on track then

Under whysper’s guidance I started pulling 32k

[slim hamlet]

WQ being daily is crisp

Gotta do that every day on 4 chars from now

[limpid lodge]

which stats I should priorize as Assa?

[idle coyote]

Do not tell him though

[slim hamlet]

Cant wait

[idle coyote]

Mastery and crit

[night delta]

got a friend that got it 1st hunt, I didn't get it at all this week

[limpid lodge]

Ty

[strange python]

Oh it is gettable. I have half my guild not even doing hunts but I'm our LW. Sad

[slim hamlet]

just get it

simple

Sitting on 55 BM knowledge

Because leveling after 60 is legit impossible for BS

[idle coyote]

Do we have any links on what factions to farm or we just face rolling dungeons like myself(elite)

[slim hamlet]

For profession?

[outer lodge]

Anyone craft the dagger this week?

[night delta]

unless you care about having pre-NM BiS you don't have to farm any faction

it's mostly all cosmetics, professions, story and a few items

[idle coyote]

Nm is what

[night delta]

the one thing you might want to take a look at is Cobalt Assembly (fortress between Azure Span and Thaldraszus), it wields a powerful ring

Normal mode

[spice spire]

Normal @idle coyote

[night delta]

basic difficulty raiding

[spice spire]

Azure span is omega fucked on my server

[idle coyote]

I’m just trying to get to Que for mythics

[spice spire]

Just universally

[idle coyote]

Yeah you just farm for this ring correct? 389 ilevel one

[night delta]

yeah

takes a bit but it's not too long

and quite fun once you start rolling in powers

[idle coyote]

I shall do this in between ques

[balmy condor]

common YoungGirth W

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

Anyone knows how to actually get the embelished reagents?

[candid geyser]

Fishing was actually fun. Maxed it and some (actually quite a bit)- only got one cooking pattern bottle though… and not the crit mastery one 😦

[balmy condor]

suck a dragon off in a back alley

[spice spire]

Brother?

It’s too early for this

[balmy condor]

it's 4pm

wdym too early

[spice spire]

Yeah, you’re not scheduled to be unhinged until 10pm pal

🤨

[candid geyser]

Whispyr been unhinged for year or two now.

[slim hamlet]

[balmy condor]

you just mad my dick wet like my nuggets brother

[night delta]

isn't the bronze thingy unavailable until raid ? or am I mixing things up

[balmy condor]

you can keep your air fryer

[night delta]

I know a few crafts that are locked behind raid entry$

[slim hamlet]

These things

Example

[spice spire]

Brother. Is this what I’m getting tomorrow night?

[night delta]

most, if not all, are crafted through various professions

[spice spire]

Because I’m bricked up rn

[slim hamlet]

Yeah most reagents are, but these dont show up with any profession

[balmy condor]

on g-o-double glizzle

[night delta]

Fang adornments are a LW recipe locked behind spec

for example

[slim hamlet]

Epic

[spice spire]

I take it all back

[slim hamlet]

Blind issue i guess

[balmy condor]

you mean from the back

[spice spire]

It’s gonna be a long 2-4 hours

[south pollen]

hi i was wondering is there ever a time where you dont even reapply garrotte in aoe situation? like 10+ target or idk

[balmy condor]

nop

it's integral to your energy regen

[night delta]

when enemies die in 2 secs maybe

[thin ingot]

@balmy condor i love sin and its looking pretty good in raids, but in high M+ the longer the mobs live the worse we look compared to the other 2 rog specs right? if they live past IC bleeds application were downhill from there or im thinking about it wrong?

[balmy condor]

should always ben casting it

[night delta]

else no

[south pollen]

okok thank you

[balmy condor]

yeah nothing to be done I guess reroll windwalker

[night delta]

try spinning, that's a good trick

[thin ingot]

i still enjoy the other rogue specs what bothers me the most is the stat allocation between sin and the other 2, you can juggle between OL and sub with crit vers

[balmy condor]

yeah that bothers me too

they should get rid of secondaries

and just have agi and stamina

that way I can use the same gear in every situation on every spec

[night delta]

they should get rid of primaries and armor types

and let anyone equip any loot

[balmy condor]

oh here we go

big ideas

[thin ingot]

remove soulbound from items

let me gear 1 character and use it for all

[slim hamlet]

just play a warrior

[balmy condor]

better yet

just remove gear

[lunar granite]

@gusty mirage bully me big boy

[balmy condor]

skill based game

everyone has a template char

[native silo]

Alright guys I'm not a crafter I'm a. Alchemist which if these bullshit crafts are we using for raid

[slim hamlet]

How about we just remove all progression in the game

[night delta]

aw yeah that's the good stuff

[woeful wigeon]

naked like 40 man molten core naked run then fight 1h on the dogs cause they keep respauning

[gusty mirage]

L+ plays disc priest + doesn't blub enough glubs + smells like herbie

[spice spire]

You answered yourself

#assassination-faq

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Has your answer

[balmy condor]

there's no consumables in there I think

but guides do

so he's still technically right

[spice spire]

Oh I thought he meant crafted gear

[slim hamlet]

Actually just lying

[lunar granite]

ratio + ur Nan + poopy butt + nerf herder

[cold dove]

i take offense to this

[slim hamlet]

He only wrote one I

[native silo]

Oh it is in the guide I'm an idiot lmao

[balmy condor]

don't you guys have a repetitive ghost hunting game with no new content in 2 years to play or something @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

what do I have to do with any of this

[spice spire]

No worries, how dare you overlook something

[gusty mirage]

I'm farming rares

[spice spire]

Glhf

[gusty mirage]

suck my balls

[cold dove]

same

[spice spire]

Buddy say less

[idle coyote]

Okay

[cold dove]

with the balls and all

[spice spire]

I’m omw my way!

[slim hamlet]

smh my head

[idle coyote]

But who has crafted their neck

[balmy condor]

balls plural bro? weird

[gusty mirage]

just because my idiot friends are being stupid, aint my fault

[cold dove]

yes

[gusty mirage]

!mute @cold dove 24h take a break

[balmy condor]

:kekw

oh

[spice spire]

Unreal rizz

[balmy condor]

discord slower than me

[lunar granite]

new map isn't content

[viscid spear]

[next edge]

I got 4 plates 379

but not a single leather or dagger

so i cba farming thsoe rares anymore

kek

Also the stupid key nerf caught me at 50% to get friendly

So I will just wait for quest reset and get my neck

[spice spire]

There’s really nothing to say except

L bozo

[balmy condor]

no you could say something else

like skill issue

[spice spire]

To continue that joke, amen

[balmy condor]

bro stop being a simp

you say amen to everything

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m saying man

Literal whispyr simp

[gusty mirage]

can't relate

[spice spire]

Have that mf tattooed on my body

[next edge]

nah no way I was on Ally

thought next was friend

[balmy condor]

I'd like to report an illness

[next edge]

nah i cba farming full fang

That neck will stop being useful in less than a week

im tilted now

[gusty mirage]

I cant hear you from my LITERAL FIRE MAMMOTH

[spice spire]

Dude literally sold his sanity for an elephant

[exotic parcel]

how will Sin compare to the other rogue spec's in m+?

it felt decent earlier today

[gusty breach]

u want a meme tierlist?

[exotic parcel]

basically

[exotic parcel]

the opening burst with indiscriminate carnage is amazing and is fun to play around

[balmy condor]

how will exsang nerf affect lebrons legacy

[gusty breach]

i prefer the warlock talking one

[spice spire]

I have all of them dw

Boomkin too

[gusty breach]

is it bookin complaining?

[spice spire]

Nah it’s same god but boomkin speaking

[gusty breach]

cuz those fuckers told everyone they suck pre venthir convoke deal

[next edge]

https://i.gyazo.com/5ff5eb7cfc0a81cd1a0a221ef739bf1e.png

ok i think not worth the farm

kek

[idle coyote]

Okay but

Who is streaming m0s on ass rogue rn

[spice spire]

Most have already completed for the week

[idle coyote]

I need something to offset this rr strike I dealing with

[spice spire]

So probably no one

[balmy condor]

people are streaming m0?

[spice spire]

rr strike

[idle coyote]

[spice spire]

Yeah are you not gonna stream your m0 run tomorrow night?

[balmy condor]

I mean

I might

if people think that's relevant content

[idle coyote]

Yeah to me it is

(Learning)

(Learner enjoyer)

[spice spire]

I was gonna say. It may not be to everyone but you have plenty of newer rogues that will probably want to learn

I’d say I’d do it, but last time was a bit

And I’m the worse rogue in my runs

[whole rose]

Does exsanguinate no longer makes deathmark time to be half？

[idle coyote]

Doing some heavy irl rep farm rn

[balmy condor]

it does

[whole rose]

thx

[spice spire]

Hoping for a decent outcome, not very hopeful rn tho

[idle coyote]

I work on operations side of supply chain it’s been a disaster for 2 years I have no hope in anything

[spice spire]

[dense herald]

DTB starting to pull a fair bit ahead of KB at BIS gear now whisp?

[balmy condor]

no

[outer lodge]

DTB is so boring

[dense herald]

Actually it seems to only be 1.2k sim dps ahead nvm

[balmy condor]

that seems really high

can you link the sim?

[dense herald]

Burst + execute > DTB anyways, I actually think the sustained option should pull ahead

It’s on fuus chart

[balmy condor]

oh for fucks sake

[plain cipher]

Remembering to have 4 poisons is more fun than Remembering to have 2 on

[gusty breach]

better than that DJ content

any truers?

[balmy condor]

idk what DJ is

[gusty breach]

that sound app u were using

noise box wtih buttons

[balmy condor]

[dense herald]

?

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[sand plume]

is the colbat ring worth getting with m+ coming out soonish?

[dense herald]

Haha okay, fuus spreadsheet is kept reasonably updated yeah?

[balmy condor]

yeah

[trim dirge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[tulip dawn]

Does Exsanguinate affect Serrated Bone Spike?

[balmy condor]

no

[dense herald]

Nope

[tulip dawn]

Ah okay

[dense herald]

Anyone else actually loving coming home from work and not having that stress of having to complete borrowed power shit every day?
Kinda frothing it atm

[gusty breach]

it is nice

got back into beat saber while nothing else to do in wow for 1 week

[ruby crane]

are people with assassination? im gonna mess around with it until raid launches and im having fun with the burst of it

[trim dirge]

idk i never really felt that even in previous expacs

those systems were def pretty shit tho

[obtuse latch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[ruby crane]

also i think its way more fun to have a set opener compared to outlaw

i hope i still like it by the end of the week

[proper basin]

It wasnt like I felt I had too many chores to do everyday, it was more like I felt lost in a sea of currencies and systems

[dawn kelp]

What’s felt better to play DTB or Kingsbane so far?

[gusty breach]

except corruption, i enjoyed that

all that powA

[outer lodge]

actually true

[strange python]

take care, the days of 2k haste sin is branded as heretic material by some

they'll call you a "exsang lover"

[simple pike]

which of the 3 specs do you recommend for leveling in dragonflight?

[gusty breach]

probably outlaw

[strange python]

OL or Sub for leveling yeah

[ruby crane]

outlaw is always a safe bet. the other two are more specialized

[gusty breach]

graphook + shadowstep am i right?

[ruby crane]

movement helps a lot during leveling

so yes

[strange python]

it can be annoying to use enough finishers to maintain blurry and such at times, and the pistol shot range can be frustrating

sub gets infinite teleporting to mobs and easy mode aoe

but either are good

[simple pike]

could you tell me a good rotation for farming mobs?

[simple pike]

this makes sub sounds fun to level

[strange python]

You're best off reading through all the FAQ material and/or just playing through the leveling experience to gain a feel for yourself. World questing isnt exactly an "optimised" experience and doesn't really require "rotations" etc. Just mess about and see how you can adapt to the information in the FAQs

Hell half the time I just like bashed combo generators half asleep all the way to 70 tbh

Except that Taivan quest. Taivan is the bestest good boy.

[candid geyser]

oh fuu's latest dungeon slice top sim doesn't take KB 😮

[tropic rover]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[balmy condor]

😮

[keen slate]

Hey guys, sorry if this has been answered before but is it worth to craft a 392 dagger this week? Or do we know what would be a good choice to craft? Thanks

[balmy condor]

you can craft a dagger

and then just recraft later

[candid geyser]

No ironwire either tho

actually love ironwire

[balmy condor]

😮

[keen slate]

Cool so dagger would be the best option as a first craft item?

[balmy condor]

ye

[keen slate]

Is it worth buying the extra 3* Mats for better quality or will that be upgradable later too?

[balmy condor]

can upgrade later as well, but if you want the good stuff now, by all means

[keen slate]

alright, thank you!

oh also, do we go for Crit Mastery? or should I do haste and recraft later?

[balmy condor]

crit mastery are our top 2 stats

[keen slate]

oke

[strange python]

I was originally going to be working with OL and Sin, but considering Sub and Sin share stat prio so closely I might just get a dagger crafted and stick with solely dagger specs for now

[candid geyser]

BLUF:

| Outlaw | ST 87,597 | DS 119,100 |
| Sub | ST 91,577 | DS 118,813 |
| Sin | ST 93,132 | DS 96,956 |

Me no like Sin ST nearly equaling Sin DS lol

[balmy condor]

woah those are crazy numbers

where did you get those

[candid geyser]

fuu's sheet for top builds

[balmy condor]

😮

[strange python]

it's like 421 gear though yeah?

[candid geyser]

ye

[balmy condor]

radical

just one quick thing though

sin ST is 93,132?

[strange python]

working on some sandbag smokescreen tech?

[candid geyser]

That's the number for the DTB sim

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-samberg-cool-cool-cool-awkward-brooklyn99-no-doubt-gif-12150372

[drifting cloud]

helo whispyr id like to inform you after updating afenars wa that released on saturday I no longer see my sl covenant ability there

[strange python]

Whispyr over here like "oh good, they don't know... I'll just bust out this build / tech for the giga bbeg boss parse"

[balmy condor]

idk if that verb is accurate to the situation

[candid geyser]

Seems redic sin would gain ~3k dps going from ST to Dungeon Slice

lol

[drifting cloud]

dont talk to whispyr about assa DS thats not his happy place

[candid geyser]

HOWEVER...
Top Build Eight Targets 354,783

[strange python]

Hey, if it lets us be the "boss tunnel" guy again

eh

[candid geyser]

I really wish a rare would give me a dagger

[south pollen]

do you maintain crimson tempest in single target too?

[candid geyser]

Or I need to get off my butt and farm primal chaos

for craft

[strange python]

probs best for a whispyr answer, but I think if you have it you do, though you won't in a purely single target build

[south pollen]

okok im working on my weakauras and im wondering whether i should have one showing when target doesnt have it for in m+

[drifting cloud]

you do use it, but you dont try to force 100% uptime on it st

[strange python]

It would drive you insane trying to 100% it

[next edge]

Im actually holding all crafts

althought the dagger is really tempting

but toxic path boots seems strong too

[strange python]

with recrafting orders it's not going to be a big loss either way eventually though yeah?

like craft a dagger, it ends up in your offhand via epic drop luck and oooohhh no, just recraft later etc etc

[dense herald]

😂😂

[strange python]

like the way the crafting is set up it kinda looks like it's almost never really going to be a complete loss to craft

[next edge]

Dagger is kinda chill because you have 2 slots

so yeah its kinda safe

[slim hamlet]

Yeah many will prob be recrafting just to hit inspiration for max level

[strange python]

yeah, that or guild crafters will probs just hit you up for freebies anyway

[next edge]

I dont fully understand recraft

[slim hamlet]

Just be the guild crafter and everything is free

[next edge]

its basically you can change stats/mebells/add more ilvl

no?

[strange python]

you don't have to have a completely new set of ingredients