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if you want an overall, frost for sure
but sophic is like 0.5% better single target or something
oh u take ap with the kb ic build?



idk how this math works out otherwise

she also has all the consumables lists on her guide on wowhead if you wanna give that a read.
this btw is literally 0's across the board
I had to triple check to make sure my imports were right cause they were within like 10 dps and I thought I was accidentally simming the same talents
guess i keep using exsang then
mentally ill rogues as per usual
Mr moneybags over here
spicy
cause nothing else available
recraft time
wrappings wont come until raid release
whys it a waste tho
can easily recraft it 5star at 405
didnt even need illustrious insight to craft it
inspiration too op
95% of the questions in here are optimizing gear before m+ exists
I think you're good

idk kinda broken as a blacksmith
you get 140% of a skill-level cost as bonus inspiration
So friends who’s excited about court of stars farm
lol
on single target is bonespike better than Sepsis?
Still dunno what Varas was talking about
Also Sepsis cringe button
was worst cob ability in SL for rogue easily
Huh
dude f*ck outlaw, they are the reason I only get maces and swords every drop
I legit didn't understand waht u were trying to say
When
why are u on OL loot spec
nop
the whole ttk thing
idk how that was relevant to the difference between the kb+ic build and dtb build tho
which was waht my thing was about
I didn't read the whole thing

maxed small weapons+hammer controll and 100blacksmith?
I saw you compare ttk and amp
I just got a 378 mace from the chromie chest
Ok then I'm illiterate

gl with nerd gameplay
hmnah, not even
😭
going for the skillcape?
eventually, but im low on crafting orders 😦
i've hit a wall with herbalism
the big ones are green now
was an hour between level ups
confused now, cus i have 25small, 30blades 30weaponsmith with 63blacksmith, and can only do tier4 daggers with a 20%inspiration proc?
well, thats what i mean with hammer controll lmao
get epic hammer and the rank3 quenching fluid for bonus inspiration
yeha, goinf for that one next
so you get 140% skill
with inspiration proc
or well no, not 140%
math is hard
think its like 115% of what you need for a skill level
just sucks that now its only the 3-5 werkly knowledge
itd help if the blacksmith master wasnt bugged
so getting hammercontroll for inspiration will take YEARS 🙂
and if the expedition smith wasnt a scam
yep, got mining from her
expedition14 gives knowledge, but hte fucker only gave me engi knowledge, not blacksmith
the valdrakken one gave me both
but yeah, pushing expedition15/valdrakken19 got me a bunch of crafting orders no one else could do for profession tools, and that gave some nice extra skill and knowledge
for blue profession tools? ye
also got like 5 or 6 pvp armor orders by now
recipes for those were expensive though, 500k each
hmye, helps being on a big server ig
except 1guy that wants a max ilvl waist
kazzak eu
but we also got some degens who had centaur renown 20+ after like 3days
that is big lol
ya how ppl gettin these juicer daggers
mine blow
like impossible to get one to drop from m-
m0
probably borked skilling it anbit, but w/e
i hope u all are partaking in da community feast
are we supossed to be geting a lot of sword/maces/fist weapons in random drops?
I know wquest can give anything
damnit not you too!
how am i suppose to enjoy my pea soup when theres pee in my soup.
how? im like 12 and played alot already.. highest is valdrakken and dragonscale 15
but chests, rares ect
outlaw loot 🙂
centaur is easy
just do every grand hunt

Outlaw has 3000000weapons, assa and sub 1
they still give rep?
yes, just less
after 3rd one
you can grind every faction
oh rip
if you want it badly enough
you get 15rep for every hunt step
hao?
its just mindnumbing af
he literally just explained
theres a pretty good farm spot for the hunt

+seli is no-live wow hard
during a specific hunt the mobs keep respawning for some reason and sometimes they drop the tokens u turn in for rep
dragonscale - dig dirt
maruuk - do grand hunt
iskaara - do soup everytime it happens
valdrakken - do obsidian key farm
its the hunt thats somewhere in uhhh the big dragon capital area
even the green grand hunt chests you get after it finishes give like 6 token or smth
tbf, valdrakken is also "do sidequests" cus every 2nd quest is for them
yeah
but you kinda run out at some point
i farmed like 160 keys and that got me just far enough thanks to DMF
bloody coins are easiest to get if you just look out for assassins
killing 1 assassin = 200 coins
idk if I have it in me to farm obsidian keys anymore
bloody coins
not bloody tokens
Miss me with all that grinding tbh
i didnt grind the keys for wrathion/sabellian rep
i did it cuz i wanted to be one of the first to get valdrakken19 for crafting 
I'll enjoy gaining renown at a more or less organic pace
you are the second person I see with 19+ renowm
unless you are the one who leaked ||the Ysera questline||
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Don't talk about plz
they suck
ill get tuskarr11 eventually for the quest
how dare you
but since the last campaign quest is expedition24
yeah tuskarr can take an L
Not even being 25 u so bad seli
fuck that soup shit
Jk u rock 💜
what feast
A LW friend got the savage leg armor recipe 1st grand hunt
not even all the way at the bottom?

with gral's reverence/veneration?
oh
ye
because reasons
nah no luck ig
me no lucky
no algethar box either

but like
i dont feel like spending 400k
for sophic rank3
i dont even feel like spending 40k for rank2 bro
why is this shit so expensive
because it requires titan orbs
and resonator crystals
which are expensive as fuck
yeah those are 8k
dunno how people are making money off r1s tbh
Also high demand, low offer
they're losing like 15k gold each enchant
so my early expansion hustle is dead
someone bought up all the signets for wrathion
my brew is jc atm, might just switch to enchanting if enchants are this fucking expensive
if you're gonna try to push up the price
WHY ARE THEY UNDERCUTTING BY 1S
THEIRS GET SOLD FIRST ANYWAY
i swear its an entire fucking consortium of dumbasses that undercuts me by 1s everytime cause they got mad that i was the first one to craft these at rank3
these fuckers think they can undercut me
ill ruin their lives
ill sell at a loss just to spite them
cause i made so much profit already that i dont care
lol
my ah expirience so far was
wanted to buy those bear bones for the black dragon skin after i maxed wrathion
made a missclick, and instead of 15 bought 15000
for like 300k
sold them and got 420k

i spent 20min yesterday buying them because someone posted them like 200g less all the time
have any of yall noticed the insane mantai boss for the hunt in azuna by chance?
Don't the AH is a pain in the arse right now. like being 1 ore short for something and trying to get 1 and spending 30 minutes trying to play roulette if it's still available when you press buy.
wish you could just put an order in and it gets filled by the cheapest below it or something. only way to fix this issue on high flow items
honestly faster to unlearn a profession, get mining, get the ore
yeh i'll be doing that in future alt hopping to get the ore and come back. it's such a pain
im not sure why not SOME form of prof reset/reskilling is possible
ofc not a full reset all the time
that would make the entire system pointless
you should be able to spec out of specs
you have no point in yet
not the ones that give bonuses but like
opening up a specialization
with 0 points in it
should allow swapping
but like
some combinations of specs can never get beyond 65 skill
Crying in JC
imo Something like "take 2points out, and only get 1 in return" could work
to prevent degenerate spec swapping, but still allowing it in some form
that's not a bad idea. but in general yeh i sucks right now. but a few weeks in and we get used to the progression it'll be fine
as we already know we'll have everything unlocked eventually so it's not restrictive like the decisions covenants provided.
like dunno
i'm sorta glad you can't be the worlds best of any profession within the first month. it just feels better from a constant progression point of viw
otherwise you'd have people crafting skill 100 tier 5 items at millions and it becomes a massive pay to win situation
but that's my view atleast
watching Seli beeing able to make 405 daggers t5
when i can only do 386 t3 and hope for a 389t4 proc
cus skilled different, and it will take months to catch up
dunno
feels bad
dw respeccing is in 10.2
at what durations do you wanna reapply rupture, ct and garrote at ?:)
1/3 their duration is i believe when pandemic starts
might be wrong on that i rely too much on weakauras showing me a green light to notice the seconds left
Or just round it up and refresh everything at 3 secs, works fine for me xD
!pd
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
In comes the wizard with the magical codes
do we know what phial we will be using in raid? glacial fury?
someone talked about a bugged waist with haste instead of stamin do u guys know what rare drops in? dont rly care about the bugg just want a higher ilvl waist
Hey everyone, might have been asked before, but do we know if lethal dose interacts with doomblade and/or serrated bone spike?
Nvm, searched in this channel and it appears they both interact with lethal dose
So what are we looking to spend our Sparks of Ingenuity on? Daggers? Engineering wrists? maybe necklace?
faq
elemental chaos seems like a solid pick
Whats his build? I Just started leveling a blacksmithing alt
My sincere apologies all mighty one I should have known better
25small weapons for dagger-> 15hammer Control->all Inspiration in the hammer controll tree
its busted af
if you didnt knew that and thought that skilling weapon smithing will make you a better weapon smith? lmao sucks to be you (or me)
Yeah the crafting info is very lackluster
They could’ve done a bit better on that I think
be like that when blizzard pushes it out like 3 weeks before launch i guess
wdym, i have ALL weapon smith/blades/small weapon skilled full, and are worse at making weapons then somone that put some points in inspiration
Just have to give it time
Yeah ik
I haven’t spent any points yet
Being patient atm
But I need 2-3 ilvl today bad
To scale up my weeklies
Thanks 🙂
has the exsanguinate changes been added to raidbots just yet or?
is there a quick and simple way for me to sim with the changes to sang or not quite?
override.spell_data=spell.200806.cooldown=180000
override.spell_data=effect.295690.base_value=80
put that in expert mode
thanks very much
I'll tell you right now tho
doesn't really change much
the best builds are in the faq already
my guildies be 378 ilvl while im 368
the talents that were good alternatives before are still good alternatives
stats didn't really change either
slightly better haste values, but not enough to be like
actually good
change lowkey didn't do much
which I guess was the point
to just bring it in line
faq looks cool
Damn Varas even I’m 370
visually, i like the art and stuffs
you wont catch me farming rares/rep
i only did cobalt
if i had to choose between doing those
and not playing
you bet im not playing
:o
@subtle tundra varas quitting wow arc?
saga inc
no?
only good part of wow is the m+
professions are dogshit imo
you cant do shit by yourself
you specialize into a single fucking thing
out of the whole profession
cant even prospect well
as jc

you have less experience with the crafting system than you do with real life women
you overestimate my experience with women
Hey guys, wanted to ask what this is doing, cant wowhead it :< Bronzed Grip Wrappings, it is recommended for crafting.

@balmy condor yo vampdude did you update ur wa
Nop
Proc does damage
Thx!
Is it obtainable from someone at the best quality dagger?
I mean, this reset
Damn
Im confused as well. The wrappings will be used on a crafted weapon or?
Happy international Ninja Day boys and girls 🥷

Think they can go wherever but dagger is a good slot
The 421 has bad stats
So we already go for a 418
Might as well craft one
We can recraft it once they got recipe from raid?
!guides
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Think so
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
I think bronzed gripped wrappings/fang adornments can only go on weapon
Omg the nerf of exanguinate scheduled for the next week. 
thank god
hooooh boy, you check back here to get up to date on how to play your spec
and for the first time i ran out of sensible keybinds
welcome to WoW dragonwhyareheresomanyactiveabilityformyrogueblizzwtf
its the only bad thing tbh
so many things to keep track of and so many buttons to press
ngl if you just cut out like one of them it's really good
exsang gets pseudo-cut in 2days
a key you press every 3min doesnt need a "comfy" keybind
and doesnt need hard tracking
na, it's more about ER / SBS
i feel like i have one too less abilities when playing DTB build
!spreadsheet
sure but if i change stuff up now i have to re-learn muscle-memory keybinds that i had for years
- some abilities that used to be exclusive / not commonly taken together used to share keybinds, but now i have KB and CT in M+
Sooo learn to craft? You can specialize literally in everything
Anyone's Afenar WA Energy bar stop moving? The energy number follows correctly, but the bar is always filled.
if I macro berserking (troll racial) to exsanguinate, it being the first line, will it mean exsanguinate will snap shot it?
can you though
i can get mediocre crafting for a couple of things or get really good at 1
can't you max out everything at some point?
My bet for money making is on specialising in reagants
yea by the end of the expac
but rn
im trying jewelcrafing
and it fking sucks
At some point r3 reagants will be required to do the crafts at the highest quality
And r3 reagants will be gold
i make good bank crafting profession equipment
yea but can you do anything else
I'm confused about the new crafting system, so I should make the dagger with crafting orders? That's the play?
i didn't even specialize into that
yea but i dont really care about goldmaking
i specced into this, but still crafting the lower tier profession equipment at max level
i mean you can't craft max ilvl stuff because it costs this thing
jewels dont require that
craft it now
and re-craft later
I did
Yeah, better stop crafting altogether
doesnt need a spark for that
allready start dropping the khawhatever ore in t3 sometimes
which version of bi-weekly. every 2 weeks or twice a week?
2 weeks iirc
just kinda wild people are mad they can't max out professions in like one week
i actually didn't even expect to get this far into one tree by now
then again, people grinded out Wrathion / Cobalt Assembly already...
I'm far more mad about people wanting to tip 50g for a 45 hour farm recipe than notbeing 100 in my profession
anybody here knows how this condition is supposed to work? i literally don't understand how to use it
Cobalt was 30mins when ypu did it early tho
i don't bother with crafting orders for now, for LW you can't even access most of them yet
except the pvp ones I will never have
looking for pvp meta spec for assassination.. anyone have it by chance?
Just to clarify - there's no downside to crafting an item with spark now? Heard initially that we want to save them for crafting when the raid comes out
Use it after m0s this week
Anything you make with it is useless next week
how long does it take to grind out that ilvl 398 cloak
been doing it for hours and im over it
If that's the case - shouldn't we just hold onto it then?
You can save it for a better craft next week prolly
That’s what I heard
A long time
I’ve heard 8+ hours
This looks shit and i got from the trial chest why is it even on the loot table for rogue sad. i don't even see it on whispyr's guide. can anyone confirm? Also if I macro berserking before exsaguinate will it snapshot properly if berserking was first line?
wait what
wdym
you can just recraft the item at a higher level without the spark once you have it
you can craft it at a higher level than anything m+ gives you
given the resources
there is no downside to crafting it now besides potentially getting a dupe out of m+ which is miniscule
even then, you will eventually still have the crafted piece
It's how luck works - the second you craft an item that's the next item slot you'll loot
!wa
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
yeah but even so it makes no difference
you will still use that piece of gear in the end
so you lose nothing except a small sidegrade, potentially, for now
i can set it to mythic itemlevel
If you craft a belt and you get a belt from your +20 GV, the crafted is useless
following this logic, you shouldn't craft anything at all
No, following my logic it doesn't matter what you craft because it may or may not be obsolete in a week or two
Craft whatever is best for you today, not what is best for you in a month
We get another craft on raid week so there's no point in holding onto it, but there's also no point in using it before your m0s are done next week
what I have is already better than anything m0 gives
cool..
so holding onto it is pointless in that regard
but i don't even think we disagree really, at least not enough to warrant all this
But if you have 343 bracers because you've had absolutely shit luck in getting bracers and you crafted gloves but loot gloves in m0, you just wasted your craft because bracers would have been better
Your argument is really weird man
I'm not saying to never craft something, I'm saying you only have one, so be smart about it for a boost on raid opening. Nothing more, nothing less. Crafted gear might be meaningless in the long run outside of a few niche cases
If you don't care about maximizing your damage going into raid, then do whatever the hell you want
this is what I originally took issue with
everything else you say is correct and we don't really disagree
Yeah, I was being hyperbolic. What you craft doesn't matter
The way that my luck works, personally, is the second I craft something - that's the next item slot I loot.
I doubt I'm the only one who gets shat on by the cosmos
everything is pointless in the end
As a lw, i had luck dropping one of those items that can increase the ilvl of a craft (a epic one) so after i finish all the m0 i still missed the chest piece, so you bet I crafted a 376 chest! (Not using the 387 epic crafting item yet, I'll wait for raid week)

Exactly
Yawp. I used mine on a dagger
This is the kind of min max that won't matter for like 90% of us but ego
This is downright misinformation
There are crafted pieces with unique effects that are BiS even against every mythic raid and m+ item available
I'm trialing for a CE guild coming from a 3/10 guild.It very much matters
Ingenuity sparks are not limitless
And no one has those recipes
The necklace is widely available
Your part of the 10% i didn't mention
given that we're here, what's the best thing to waste money right now then to use our spark as assass?
Yes, wasting ingenuity sparks on a random life-bound leather pieces is dumb. But crafting the neck or dagger is absolutely not a waste.
I'm part of a good "maybe we clear heroic before nerfs" team xD
Because you don't replace them, you just upgrade them
what else would you use them on
Hes just said it
I'm LW, I see lots of crafting orders for the terrible life-bound pieces
Someone might also want the 2set gloves which are attainable from tuskarr rep
Are you talking about Elemental Lariat?
Decayed boots maybe
Because I don't see how that would be better than anything m+/raid gives
Okay you can take it up with the Sims then
Oh perfect, can you show me the sims?
FAQ buddy
(there's no sims in the FAQ, but I got you)
why wouldn't it be better? you can craft it up to 418 ilvl
1k secondary stats of your choosing, 3 sockets, and a proc. How is that not intuitively better than anything else
where, I want them
so i can get the weekly done
legit 0 up
every neck can get 3 sockets
Fucking fr. The LW crafting order weekly is awful. I had to make an alt and make my own personal order requests
Because LW makes nothin of value until raid stats
?????? If a necklace drops it has whatever stats it has
hol' up, that works?
only with a 2nd account I assume
why are you linking fuu's stuff
Why wouldn't I?
Same acc
Where are the "right" sims if not Fuus?
time to make some LW requests then
Fuu didn't sim crafted gear lol
he doesn't have crafted on there yet
Then were are they?
Whispyr.
I'm just saying - I asked and was told to check the FAQ. I looked at the FAQ, and there's no sims - so I used the only resource I know of.
I'm not saying Whispyr is wrong, I'm asking where I can find more about it
ty
that's in faq
Glanced right over that, derp
lol
Snowball set went down by half damn. Must've been the "or heal"
my reading comprehension is so bad, ugh
The only real reason to hold off on crafting is that it seems like things will be cheaper this coming weekend, but before raid release. Or if you think tuning will happen.
I'm inclined to believe blizzard wouldn't tune crafted items with time gated mats but...
so should i go boots or the helm leather then?
Neither
Necklace and dagger
The helm was OP as outlaw, but only if you got the "very rare" ring off the first boss
I assume most guilds will prioritize evokers for that
does the ring amplify the helm fire aoe?
type !guide
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
ty
The ring does damage when you do fire damage
Unless Sims are wrong, the helm procs the ring
But the ring has Garbo stat weights for sin
I think it's like 900 vers which is why it did well for outlaw
wld u say sin is more "fun" compared to shadowlands?
Depends what you find fun
just the feel of the class basicly
Currently it has a lot more buttons to press, a lot more to manage, but it's a lot slower
For a lot of sin players, it's fun to have a lot of things to control and to manage your energy to do it effectively.
i see. i'm on the fence on using it on a dagger. how does recrafting works?
Some players like to bash their keyboard and press lots of buttons. Sin was like that a little bit at the end of SL and isn't anymore
hmm was a bit of a basher myself lol
Idk if anyone 100% knows yet, but my understanding is that you'll need upgrade materials that drop from raid/m+
Beyond that, idk what else goes into it.
but it is really smart since you won't get cocked by a dagger drop since you still need two
and you can get crit + mastery with missive right?
As a long time sin spec player I feel that while there are more buttons, it's more engaging. It's more than it used to be. Mut and envenom spam OH REFRESH GARROTE. back to mut envenom spam. REFRESH RUPTURE
wld u say the new cds with the rotation has a decent enough rhythm to it? like feel wise, or does it feel clunky?
There's more to do, more to manage and it keeps my attention better than it used to
Sort of. There's a rough order to it that will feel smooth if you like it.
gotcha
The opener is a bit odd. It's designed to maximize deathmark. Otherwise it's fairly smooth
you don't like pressing garotte 10 times?
Nope. Should be 12 minimum for max fun
Ofc I run kingsbane instead of dtb cuz I hate myself and want an extra button lol
well shit, so we can't actually get neck until raid week and that's only if a level 100 JC gets the pattern.
Getting 100 jc is awful
Can't be as bad as 100 LW
At 60 LW you stop getting points from anything but epics that are bad (so no one wants) and 200 leather toys. Unless you get the PVP patterns
This
Stuck at 62/63
I honestly hate crafting and hope it isn't a mainstay of the rest of the patches for player power.
that's not true
Hi, for PvP Assa what stats are better getting in pvp shop ? Crit + Versa or Haste + versa ?
I got points until like 65 by crafting helms (I have a lot of points into leather helm)
You can"maybe" get 1 point if you craft like the head piece
And people going for vers/haste afaik
I'm currently at 67 LW and.. it's painful
Tyvm
No one wants any of the 9 epic patterns I can make, lol
I need to start crafting the Frosted Armor Kits, though
I got to sell 1 green pvp mail pants (learned the pattern) for 10k so I'm happy
nice
Making gold on profs has been a massive pita
I have a few things that have been good, but most things I lose money on - like the frosted armor kits. I can get points, but I lose a lot of gold for it
Join hunts, skin while following the groups = profit
sure, but that's not the same as LW being profitable
That's skinning being profitable
And you use the materials to create stuff with lw
That's still losing money
Idk I have done some skinning and barely made gold
If you can sell the leather/scales for more gold than you can the crafted item, crafting it is a loss
yup
Global ah fucked prices
Taking so long to buy shit is so frustrating
I'm hoping to get to 75 LW tonight, probably going to cost me another 60k to gain 2 points 😦
Not having a Mass Disenchant is frustrating
anyone doing alchemy?
Yeah, my brother and I have all the ingredients. We were just about to head into the basement now
one question on the opener without exsang:
why are we using vanish + garr so soon in the opener when the first garrote is not even in pandemic? when i'm supposed to press vanish + garr my first garr is at like 16 seconds remaining. isnt this a waste of uptime?
I'd assume it's to make vanish line up with next Death Mark, but I may be wrong
i was wondering this as well
Don't tell us what to do, you're not our father ||who is immortal and walks the land and makes peace with each soul inside of him instead of staying at home and helping raise us!||
Every time you click buy it won’t work because the price changed its so annoying 
tl:dr is: the difference bettwen instantly using vanish garrote or waiting for pandemic and do it again is really really small, and that way vanish+dm will always aling for the rest of the fight
God I sure love having all my limbs
otherwhise you would use vanish and dm seperate for the rest of the fight, and that feels somewhat weird
But I'd sure give an arm and a leg to get my Mom back
Figuratively speaking, of course
ye true, thanks for the explanation 🙂
Late night gaming mode today, gonna start on my Rogue
Hey, i know leveling is not a great reflection of the endgame of a spec, but i’m leveling my rogue as assassination, and i notice that i often don’t have the energy or combo points to press anything, and i basically just stand there. Is that the same for lategame? Specifically in raids
Was IC always 45 seconds?
Was 60
👀
You can pick other buffs but allegedly it turns into that Mastery buff if you die
Idk if it's been fixed yet
I'm not sure, I just finally botheredd to go and find the spot it kept talking about
Turns out I get to picck a hot mastery buff so like
I support it
nerf sin nerf tryan

how you doing buddy
im waiting my flight so was a bit bored
Just woke up from my migraine so been better, gotta work late as a result 
Be safe on your flight mister lambda 
Im sad I already miss the kitten
No, but sometimes yes but generally no. Make sure you have poison on weap and keep dots up and you should have a steady stream of energ
he's staying with grandpas 😦
How is assa simming after ensang nerf compared to other classes for ST? Is it still competitive?
God bless
Good
But yeah we’re still on top of rogue specs which were considered highly tuned
Dh pfp 🤨
Commision from some random
No, just yokes buddy
Take mine
What a time to be alive as a rogue, outlaw feels awesome in dungeons and Assassination is feeling fun
i'd give Assa a try in dungeons
imo even more fun than outlaw
Outlaw 
How does it do throughput wise vs outlaw in dungeons
Depends on a lot of things
Usual pug pulls and run in general = outlaw
With a tank that understands how to play with you sin seems really great
i was hitting higher numbers, but my tank/healer are lil crazy
also just dislike spammy specs like outlaw so there's that
I have an awesome tank I run with regularly, and maybe it’s a change weekly depending on fort vs tyrannical
But I love both specs
Assa should do better than it does in these m0's because of first week affixes? More pack hp 🙂
With IC and KB build yeah
And likely the higher the key when packs don’t just flop over
At some point outlaw will prob be better
But also depends, because iron wire is just so wicked
yeah
It’s great to have multiple viable m+ spec and builds though
iron wire makes some pulls just a breeze
SPecially for the df dungeeons
soo many interrupts
Don't know much about the older dungs
So coming from Outlaw, is Assasination supposed to feel a lot slower? I feel like I spend a lot of time auto attacking and waiting for energy. Is this expected or am I doing something wrong?
Are you setting up your bleeds first?
What are your talents?
thats very expected
Feels a lot slower
don't think it actually is insanely slower
Tea also had energy regen use
on the apm
Biggest reason outlaw feels faster is bcs of AR I guess
I'm making sure to start with Garrote, Rupture and SnD
But tbh I haven't played too much so I might just not have figured out how it all flows together yet.
Just felt like I wasn't pressing a button every global like Outlaw
in general outlaw is just a very fast spec, so its personal prefence. Kinda like some people prefer demon blades DH and some don't
i like not spamming a button every global
I have quite a bit of wrist issues. When playing sin I can play for 3ish hours in a row before hurting
But outlaw is only like 1-2
So there def is some issues, might also jsut be different keybinds
3 hours in your wrist is hurting 
ER doesn't seem to be scaling with rupture?
seems like rupture doesn't count as a 'finishing move'
It does for me 
Just switch hands 
i'm testing it on dummy's atm, and a 6cp rupture or a ER rupture ticks for the same damage
I used to main fury warrior and the carpel tunnel is real
when does garrote have cd?

out of stealth, outside of subterfuge
isn't that normal though ?
@exotic parcel Rupture's damage per tick doesnt change, only duration
I'm in school 6 hours working, then going home and gaming
ofc my wrist hurts
But not CBS at least
i'm stupid, nvm
Stretch every hour 
Same
I’ll solve you buddy
ya ya, been awake for too long lmao
People been trying man
lets pretend i didn't ask a thing
Once you do lmk
Do wrist exercises
Mistakes happen homie, no worries. Good luck 

Is the M+ rotation the same with MA?
Hi guys! I am looking for any PvP related info and so far cannot find anything. Would you guys be so kind to point me into some site or any up to date guide on how to play/build assa for PvP? Much appreciaite it
Murkio
For a large pack with a prio mob, if I start in hard on the biggest guy and blast st, including KB and deathmark, into IC vanish garrote/rupture for the trash.
Alternatively you could IC from stealth but have to wait for the shit to get stacked.
I think palumor has a guide out on YouTube. His stuff is usually pretty solid
This
Also he's really good at teaching beginners
I think 1 makes more sense. Cause if my WW gibs the trash before I commit IC, then I should just save for next pack.
Slows it all down, and shows it on screen
Will the nerf to exsang make a huge difference in mythic +?
wondering if i should go back to outlawe
Huge difference everywhere, but still good
Whispyr cooked a MA build up instead of exsang for m+
Must play FOTM!
Is MA still 50% and 4s or whatever?
No
Mfs bullying smh
Nah you got feral
Can i exsang deathmark after the nerf ?
can i not even use exsang, lots of keybinds to press 😔
No
Have to play Bard
You can get away with rogue, but need at least 80 points in outland engineering
Re: exang deathmark. You just hit deathmark second right? (That's how the apl does it).
You dont wait until the exang runs through.
Saw a couple of youtubers saying sin was dead, and exsang was unusable after the nerf
Pretty nice
You want to dm while exsang is ticking
Right.
on a serious note, if you dm and then exchang, since dm is a bleed you just halved your offensive cd, fucking your dam
The only annoyance is the double garrote and double rupture. But we've been doing that since legion
At least you only have to do that every 3 mins now 
I could see that exang was problematic at 45s with 1 or 2min trinkets.
Did anyone figure out the IC immunity in keys? And if the iron wire is causing the IC to not land on trash?
Well atleast now exsanguinate can be macrod to irideus fragment 
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
anyone have the cast sequence macro for poisons with dtb? don't feel like typing it out pls ty : )
Quick question "In order of most to least important compared to non-crafted BiS:
- Bronzed Grip Wrappings Offhand (+1.0%)" does this mean weapon craft will overall benefit the most?
Their talents are broken at the moment. Thanks tho
They better fix it until m+
His builds are still from prepatch but thank you!
Kinda curious how PI stacks up for sin compared to boomie/warlock with exsang
what do you mean? IC isn't working? ;O ive never seen that
So the nerf to exsanguinate, the 80% means it only ticks 80% faster instead of 100% right? Or am I misunstanding
Correct
not sure if its the right place to ask but anyone knows how to change spell queue values?
/console SpellQueueWindow 300
Change the 300 to the value you want
@gusty mirage youre a chad dude i love you ❤️ thanks
Where is the "burn exsang party" happening?
Fuck.
it's less intrusive of a choice though
if you hate it
it's sacrificing like 1.5% dps
which is a a loss you can stomach
Instead of 6 or something
yeah
honestly at this point losing 1.5% dps cause u dont want to press a button every 3 minutes is kinda cringe
I ain't going against my core values
at 45s i can understand the complaints against it
you know how many times I've bricked my DM because I just went on auto pilot mode?

but like "oh no i have to reapply rupture slightly earlier every 3 mintues"
skill issue just dont do that 🙂
ngl I'mma miss the 45s exsang
it was super nice in dungeons
for destroying a chunky mob
you shouldnt :^)
this isn't outlaw, we don't shame people for "not maining the spec"
we only shame outlaw rogues here

imagine playing fury rogue
Unironically im torn between playing assa and sub and its sucha good problem to have
Sec Tec being a button worth pressing feels very good
the new dance stuff is very much an "eh" from me. but it doesnt feel so bad to play that i care that much
!ambush
Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message
Was the exsanguinate + IC so OP they had to make it a 3 min. A shame
As much as I don't like the recent iterations of sub, it felt good in the couple dungeons I did

what the fuck is an exsang + ic
Had nothing to do with IC. Exsang by itself was insane level of overpowered
exsang doesnt interact with ic
Mage main speaking 🤨
(I’m bullying don’t take me seriously)
Misunderstood tooltip entirely, thought exsanguinate was aoe applicable. My bad
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
he's back on rogue
God bless
Lmao I can play both sin and outlaw

he's a liar
he abandoned the cause for mage in s4
and he's a fed @spice spire
be careful
I can't win can I
Idk what that means

I heard Quake is a rl op
only when he has weekly keys to do
Quake is an opp opp
he'll unplug someone's grandmother faster than you can imagine
so he can go home faster

I love being in a group and seeing Quake apply for the group
Always a great feeling
ngl everytime I see someone from RH apply to a group I'm in
I tell the lead to insta decline them

I don't trust any of yall
I've seen the dumb shit yall say
I tried getting him a rare kill the other day but he was too slow
Quake was taking a break, that was George
Any good parse = George
FWIW the dude who was going to spawn it for us didn't get the kill either
George must not play a lot, huh 
oh

Imposter!
soory im new. What is RH?
Ravenholdt
An illusion, what are you hiding?
The server we are in

im the real george
Sorry pal, my dog has taken that rite. You’re an imposter!
Is this broken. Followed the video (which is quite simpe) and it creates the same macro as in the video, but it dosn't work for me.
I heasrd the addon is janky
Man with DTB it'd be nice to have poison presets














