#assassination

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balmy condor
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kinda not really

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if you want an overall, frost for sure

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but sophic is like 0.5% better single target or something

solid mica
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ah so yeah it is pretty small then

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thx whisp

dense cedar
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oh u take ap with the kb ic build?

balmy condor
royal lantern
solid mica
dense cedar
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idk how this math works out otherwise

royal lantern
austere moss
balmy condor
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this btw is literally 0's across the board

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I had to triple check to make sure my imports were right cause they were within like 10 dps and I thought I was accidentally simming the same talents

dense cedar
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guess i keep using exsang then

balmy condor
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mentally ill rogues as per usual

dense cedar
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current MA is jsut so

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lackluster

subtle tundra
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Exsang for the st

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Or sub for the st and aoe

marble hemlock
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this may or may not have been a waste

oak sky
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Mr moneybags over here

dense cedar
balmy condor
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why did you fang

marble hemlock
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cause nothing else available

balmy condor
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recraft time

marble hemlock
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wrappings wont come until raid release

balmy condor
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whys it a waste tho

marble hemlock
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idk

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cuz its 392

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can probably get a better one week1

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but nah im happy

marble hemlock
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can easily recraft it 5star at 405

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didnt even need illustrious insight to craft it

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inspiration too op

balmy condor
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95% of the questions in here are optimizing gear before m+ exists

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I think you're good

marble hemlock
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idk kinda broken as a blacksmith

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you get 140% of a skill-level cost as bonus inspiration

empty hinge
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So friends who’s excited about court of stars farm

brazen zodiac
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lol

austere moss
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on single target is bonespike better than Sepsis?

balmy condor
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very much so, yes

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that's why none of the builds recommend sepsis

brazen zodiac
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bonespike pew pew

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good morning whisp

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its rather late for u isnt it

dense cedar
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Still dunno what Varas was talking about

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Also Sepsis cringe button

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was worst cob ability in SL for rogue easily

subtle tundra
fallen charm
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dude f*ck outlaw, they are the reason I only get maces and swords every drop

dense cedar
subtle tundra
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When

fallen charm
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nop

dense cedar
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the whole ttk thing

subtle tundra
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Ttk bad

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Real bad

dense cedar
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idk how that was relevant to the difference between the kb+ic build and dtb build tho

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which was waht my thing was about

subtle tundra
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I didn't read the whole thing

dense cedar
royal lantern
subtle tundra
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I saw you compare ttk and amp

fallen charm
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I just got a 378 mace from the chromie chest

dense cedar
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i did not

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i never mentioned ttk

subtle tundra
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Ok then I'm illiterate

dense cedar
subtle tundra
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No news here

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Now I have a math to do

dense cedar
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gl with nerd gameplay

marble hemlock
subtle tundra
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😭

marble hemlock
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79 blacksmith

dense cedar
marble hemlock
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eventually, but im low on crafting orders 😦

dense cedar
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i've hit a wall with herbalism

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the big ones are green now

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was an hour between level ups

royal lantern
marble hemlock
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yeah well

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gotta do this

royal lantern
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well, thats what i mean with hammer controll lmao

marble hemlock
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get epic hammer and the rank3 quenching fluid for bonus inspiration

royal lantern
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yeha, goinf for that one next

marble hemlock
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so you get 140% skill

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with inspiration proc

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or well no, not 140%

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math is hard

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think its like 115% of what you need for a skill level

royal lantern
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just sucks that now its only the 3-5 werkly knowledge

marble hemlock
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itd help if the blacksmith master wasnt bugged

royal lantern
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so getting hammercontroll for inspiration will take YEARS 🙂

marble hemlock
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and if the expedition smith wasnt a scam

royal lantern
marble hemlock
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expedition14 gives knowledge, but hte fucker only gave me engi knowledge, not blacksmith

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the valdrakken one gave me both

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but yeah, pushing expedition15/valdrakken19 got me a bunch of crafting orders no one else could do for profession tools, and that gave some nice extra skill and knowledge

royal lantern
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people actually do orders on your server?

marble hemlock
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for blue profession tools? ye

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also got like 5 or 6 pvp armor orders by now

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recipes for those were expensive though, 500k each

royal lantern
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had to beg a friend to give me orders for the weekly

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legit 0orders in my server

marble hemlock
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hmye, helps being on a big server ig

royal lantern
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except 1guy that wants a max ilvl waist

royal lantern
marble hemlock
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but we also got some degens who had centaur renown 20+ after like 3days

royal lantern
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that is big lol

marble hemlock
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yeha but kazzak is only full of buyers

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not people who actually know what to do

subtle tundra
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Idk I tried to do jewel crafting

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And it just sucks

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I hate professions

royal lantern
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eh, im happy with bs

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made myself a 389dagger for 0costs

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all i needed

solid mica
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ya how ppl gettin these juicer daggers

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mine blow

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like impossible to get one to drop from m-

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m0

royal lantern
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probably borked skilling it anbit, but w/e

brazen zodiac
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i hope u all are partaking in da community feast

marble hemlock
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yeah i already peed in the pot

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enjoy your soup

fallen charm
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are we supossed to be geting a lot of sword/maces/fist weapons in random drops?

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I know wquest can give anything

brazen zodiac
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how am i suppose to enjoy my pea soup when theres pee in my soup.

shell niche
fallen charm
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but chests, rares ect

marble hemlock
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just do every grand hunt

royal lantern
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Outlaw has 3000000weapons, assa and sub 1

shell niche
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they still give rep?

marble hemlock
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yeah

royal lantern
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yes, just less

shell niche
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after 3rd one

marble hemlock
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you can grind every faction

shell niche
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oh rip

marble hemlock
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if you want it badly enough

royal lantern
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you get 15rep for every hunt step

fallen charm
royal lantern
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its just mindnumbing af

balmy condor
brazen zodiac
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theres a pretty good farm spot for the hunt

fallen charm
royal lantern
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+seli is no-live wow hard

brazen zodiac
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during a specific hunt the mobs keep respawning for some reason and sometimes they drop the tokens u turn in for rep

marble hemlock
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dragonscale - dig dirt
maruuk - do grand hunt
iskaara - do soup everytime it happens
valdrakken - do obsidian key farm

brazen zodiac
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its the hunt thats somewhere in uhhh the big dragon capital area

marble hemlock
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even the green grand hunt chests you get after it finishes give like 6 token or smth

royal lantern
marble hemlock
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yeah

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but you kinda run out at some point

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i farmed like 160 keys and that got me just far enough thanks to DMF

fallen charm
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I already got dragonflight loremaster

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time to do endless obsidian key grind

brazen zodiac
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160?

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bless u sir

marble hemlock
fallen charm
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dude I farmed 450 bloody coins yesterday on that pvp bullshit wquest

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14hr grind

marble hemlock
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bloody coins are easiest to get if you just look out for assassins

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killing 1 assassin = 200 coins

fallen charm
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idk if I have it in me to farm obsidian keys anymore

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bloody coins

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not bloody tokens

marble hemlock
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oh

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idk what the difference is

fallen charm
marble hemlock
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oh that shit

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yeah i mean

night delta
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Miss me with all that grinding tbh

marble hemlock
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i didnt grind the keys for wrathion/sabellian rep

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i did it cuz i wanted to be one of the first to get valdrakken19 for crafting kekdog

night delta
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I'll enjoy gaining renown at a more or less organic pace

fallen charm
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you are the second person I see with 19+ renowm

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unless you are the one who leaked ||the Ysera questline||

gusty mirage
night delta
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Don't talk about plz

marble hemlock
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ill get tuskarr11 eventually for the quest

gusty mirage
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how dare you

marble hemlock
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but since the last campaign quest is expedition24

gusty mirage
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HOW DARE YOU

marble hemlock
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yeah tuskarr can take an L

sonic schooner
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Not even being 25 u so bad seli

marble hemlock
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fuck that soup shit

sonic schooner
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Jk u rock 💜

gusty mirage
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did you at least do it once

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for the recipe?

marble hemlock
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i did it like

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3times

gusty mirage
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just get the feast recipe your first time

marble hemlock
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what feast

gusty mirage
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75 primary stat

marble hemlock
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doesnt even show up

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in my cooking book

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as unlearned

night delta
gusty mirage
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not even all the way at the bottom?

night delta
gusty mirage
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with gral's reverence/veneration?

marble hemlock
gusty mirage
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oh it's graal's devotion

marble hemlock
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oh

gusty mirage
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if you click the actual name

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it pops up

marble hemlock
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ye

gusty mirage
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because reasons

marble hemlock
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nah no luck ig

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me no lucky

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no algethar box either

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but like

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i dont feel like spending 400k

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for sophic rank3

gusty mirage
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get rank 2

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dif is like

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200 dps

marble hemlock
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i dont even feel like spending 40k for rank2 bro

gusty mirage
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wtf

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our r2 was 20k

marble hemlock
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why is this shit so expensive

gusty mirage
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because it requires titan orbs

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and resonator crystals

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which are expensive as fuck

marble hemlock
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yeah those are 8k

gusty mirage
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dunno how people are making money off r1s tbh

night delta
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Also high demand, low offer

marble hemlock
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just realized i still had tehse

gusty mirage
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they're selling r1 sophic devotions

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for like

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10k

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like bro what

marble hemlock
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yeah idk

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the idiot brigade is undercutting me on runes now

gusty mirage
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they're losing like 15k gold each enchant

marble hemlock
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so my early expansion hustle is dead

gusty mirage
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someone bought up all the signets for wrathion

marble hemlock
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my brew is jc atm, might just switch to enchanting if enchants are this fucking expensive

gusty mirage
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and listed them for 100g more

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lmao

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like... why

marble hemlock
gusty mirage
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if you're gonna try to push up the price

marble hemlock
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WHY ARE THEY UNDERCUTTING BY 1S

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THEIRS GET SOLD FIRST ANYWAY

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i swear its an entire fucking consortium of dumbasses that undercuts me by 1s everytime cause they got mad that i was the first one to craft these at rank3

gusty mirage
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yep

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did you start farming the snail mount yet seli

marble hemlock
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bro fuck mounts

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who gives a fuck

gusty mirage
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lmao

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I still need keys

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for sebellian

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might as well get a snail too

marble hemlock
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these fuckers think they can undercut me

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ill ruin their lives

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ill sell at a loss just to spite them

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cause i made so much profit already that i dont care

brazen zodiac
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lol

royal lantern
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my ah expirience so far was

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wanted to buy those bear bones for the black dragon skin after i maxed wrathion

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made a missclick, and instead of 15 bought 15000

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for like 300k

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sold them and got 420k

shell niche
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i spent 20min yesterday buying them because someone posted them like 200g less all the time

brazen zodiac
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have any of yall noticed the insane mantai boss for the hunt in azuna by chance?

marble hemlock
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my AH experience so far was

flint tusk
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Don't the AH is a pain in the arse right now. like being 1 ore short for something and trying to get 1 and spending 30 minutes trying to play roulette if it's still available when you press buy.

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wish you could just put an order in and it gets filled by the cheapest below it or something. only way to fix this issue on high flow items

marble hemlock
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honestly faster to unlearn a profession, get mining, get the ore

flint tusk
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yeh i'll be doing that in future alt hopping to get the ore and come back. it's such a pain

royal lantern
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im not sure why not SOME form of prof reset/reskilling is possible

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ofc not a full reset all the time

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that would make the entire system pointless

marble hemlock
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you should be able to spec out of specs

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you have no point in yet

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not the ones that give bonuses but like

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opening up a specialization

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with 0 points in it

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should allow swapping

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but like

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some combinations of specs can never get beyond 65 skill

flint tusk
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Crying in JC

royal lantern
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imo Something like "take 2points out, and only get 1 in return" could work

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to prevent degenerate spec swapping, but still allowing it in some form

flint tusk
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that's not a bad idea. but in general yeh i sucks right now. but a few weeks in and we get used to the progression it'll be fine

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as we already know we'll have everything unlocked eventually so it's not restrictive like the decisions covenants provided.

royal lantern
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like dunno

flint tusk
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i'm sorta glad you can't be the worlds best of any profession within the first month. it just feels better from a constant progression point of viw

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otherwise you'd have people crafting skill 100 tier 5 items at millions and it becomes a massive pay to win situation

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but that's my view atleast

royal lantern
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watching Seli beeing able to make 405 daggers t5

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when i can only do 386 t3 and hope for a 389t4 proc

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cus skilled different, and it will take months to catch up

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dunno

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feels bad

subtle tundra
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And no way of respccing

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Yay

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Good system

dense cedar
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dw respeccing is in 10.2

dawn elm
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at what durations do you wanna reapply rupture, ct and garrote at ?:)

flint tusk
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1/3 their duration is i believe when pandemic starts

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might be wrong on that i rely too much on weakauras showing me a green light to notice the seconds left

dawn elm
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okey thx 🙂

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so 6 sec for garrote about 12 sek for rupture and about 5 sek for ct?

normal mist
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Or just round it up and refresh everything at 3 secs, works fine for me xD

balmy condor
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!pd

prisma monolithBOT
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

flint tusk
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In comes the wizard with the magical codes

dawn elm
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clutch indeed

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thx !

storm quarry
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do we know what phial we will be using in raid? glacial fury?

dawn elm
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someone talked about a bugged waist with haste instead of stamin do u guys know what rare drops in? dont rly care about the bugg just want a higher ilvl waist

mint patio
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Hey everyone, might have been asked before, but do we know if lethal dose interacts with doomblade and/or serrated bone spike?

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Nvm, searched in this channel and it appears they both interact with lethal dose

crisp cipher
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So what are we looking to spend our Sparks of Ingenuity on? Daggers? Engineering wrists? maybe necklace?

balmy condor
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faq

balmy condor
reef frigate
crisp cipher
balmy condor
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lmao

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all good

royal lantern
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its busted af

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if you didnt knew that and thought that skilling weapon smithing will make you a better weapon smith? lmao sucks to be you (or me)

hollow river
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Yeah the crafting info is very lackluster

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They could’ve done a bit better on that I think

balmy condor
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be like that when blizzard pushes it out like 3 weeks before launch i guess

hollow river
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Yeah

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It’s still heaps better than the old crafting I think

royal lantern
hollow river
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Just have to give it time

royal lantern
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cant re-skill btw

hollow river
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Yeah ik

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I haven’t spent any points yet

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Being patient atm

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But I need 2-3 ilvl today bad

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To scale up my weeklies

sweet inlet
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has the exsanguinate changes been added to raidbots just yet or?

balmy condor
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not in game means not in raidbots

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have to use overrides

sweet inlet
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is there a quick and simple way for me to sim with the changes to sang or not quite?

balmy condor
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override.spell_data=spell.200806.cooldown=180000
override.spell_data=effect.295690.base_value=80

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put that in expert mode

sweet inlet
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thanks very much

balmy condor
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I'll tell you right now tho

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doesn't really change much

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the best builds are in the faq already

subtle tundra
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my guildies be 378 ilvl while im 368

balmy condor
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the talents that were good alternatives before are still good alternatives

subtle tundra
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cant wait for m+

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so i can finally start playing

balmy condor
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stats didn't really change either

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slightly better haste values, but not enough to be like

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actually good

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change lowkey didn't do much

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which I guess was the point

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to just bring it in line

brazen zodiac
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faq looks cool

hollow river
brazen zodiac
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visually, i like the art and stuffs

hollow river
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And I’ve been working overtime

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I just went ham this weekend

subtle tundra
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i only did cobalt

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if i had to choose between doing those

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and not playing

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you bet im not playing

brazen zodiac
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:o

ebon notch
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@subtle tundra varas quitting wow arc?

brazen zodiac
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saga inc

peak bobcat
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I too cannot wait to farm court of stars

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For the 800th time

subtle tundra
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only good part of wow is the m+

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professions are dogshit imo

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you cant do shit by yourself

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you specialize into a single fucking thing

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out of the whole profession

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cant even prospect well

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as jc

balmy condor
ebon notch
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you have less experience with the crafting system than you do with real life women

subtle tundra
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you overestimate my experience with women

exotic robin
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Hey guys, wanted to ask what this is doing, cant wowhead it :< Bronzed Grip Wrappings, it is recommended for crafting.

thorn crater
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@balmy condor yo vampdude did you update ur wa

balmy condor
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Nop

exotic robin
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Thx!

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Is it obtainable from someone at the best quality dagger?

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I mean, this reset

balmy condor
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No

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The wrappings are raid drop recipe

exotic robin
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Damn

upbeat hazel
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Im confused as well. The wrappings will be used on a crafted weapon or?

heavy coral
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Happy international Ninja Day boys and girls 🥷

viscid spear
balmy condor
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The 421 has bad stats

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So we already go for a 418

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Might as well craft one

exotic robin
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We can recraft it once they got recipe from raid?

strange python
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!guides

balmy condor
odd heath
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
true pelican
barren brook
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Omg the nerf of exanguinate scheduled for the next week. monkaS

royal lantern
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thank god

gentle gyro
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hooooh boy, you check back here to get up to date on how to play your spec

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and for the first time i ran out of sensible keybinds

royal lantern
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welcome to WoW dragonwhyareheresomanyactiveabilityformyrogueblizzwtf

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its the only bad thing tbh

gentle gyro
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so many things to keep track of and so many buttons to press

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ngl if you just cut out like one of them it's really good

royal lantern
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exsang gets pseudo-cut in 2days

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a key you press every 3min doesnt need a "comfy" keybind

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and doesnt need hard tracking

gentle gyro
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na, it's more about ER / SBS

frozen jasper
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i feel like i have one too less abilities when playing DTB build

fair storm
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!spreadsheet

gentle gyro
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  • some abilities that used to be exclusive / not commonly taken together used to share keybinds, but now i have KB and CT in M+
red tinsel
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Anyone's Afenar WA Energy bar stop moving? The energy number follows correctly, but the bar is always filled.

flint ridge
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if I macro berserking (troll racial) to exsanguinate, it being the first line, will it mean exsanguinate will snap shot it?

subtle tundra
gentle gyro
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can't you max out everything at some point?

night delta
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My bet for money making is on specialising in reagants

subtle tundra
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but rn

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im trying jewelcrafing
and it fking sucks

night delta
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At some point r3 reagants will be required to do the crafts at the highest quality

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And r3 reagants will be gold

gentle gyro
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i make good bank crafting profession equipment

subtle tundra
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yea but can you do anything else

proper tapir
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I'm confused about the new crafting system, so I should make the dagger with crafting orders? That's the play?

gentle gyro
subtle tundra
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yea but i dont really care about goldmaking

gentle gyro
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i specced into this, but still crafting the lower tier profession equipment at max level

subtle tundra
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if i want to do max lvl jewels

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it fucking sucks

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for myself

gentle gyro
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i mean you can't craft max ilvl stuff because it costs this thing

subtle tundra
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jewels dont require that

royal lantern
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and re-craft later

gentle gyro
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I did

red tinsel
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Yeah, better stop crafting altogether

royal lantern
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doesnt need a spark for that

gentle gyro
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i recrafted my chest like thrice now lol

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so thanks for the advice, but I know 👍

royal lantern
gentle gyro
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do you get one spark / week

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or how does that work

royal lantern
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i think bi-weekly now

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and later we can get them faster

gentle gyro
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which version of bi-weekly. every 2 weeks or twice a week?

royal lantern
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2 weeks iirc

gentle gyro
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just kinda wild people are mad they can't max out professions in like one week

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i actually didn't even expect to get this far into one tree by now

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then again, people grinded out Wrathion / Cobalt Assembly already...

alpine latch
ancient rain
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anybody here knows how this condition is supposed to work? i literally don't understand how to use it

dire ivy
gentle gyro
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except the pvp ones I will never have

split eagle
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looking for pvp meta spec for assassination.. anyone have it by chance?

lusty widget
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Just to clarify - there's no downside to crafting an item with spark now? Heard initially that we want to save them for crafting when the raid comes out

alpine latch
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Anything you make with it is useless next week

dusty zenith
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how long does it take to grind out that ilvl 398 cloak

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been doing it for hours and im over it

lusty widget
hollow river
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That’s what I heard

hollow river
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I’ve heard 8+ hours

flint ridge
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This looks shit and i got from the trial chest why is it even on the loot table for rogue sad. i don't even see it on whispyr's guide. can anyone confirm? Also if I macro berserking before exsaguinate will it snapshot properly if berserking was first line?

gentle gyro
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wdym

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you can just recraft the item at a higher level without the spark once you have it

alpine latch
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Sure, but you're hoping that you still need that item slot after raid

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And m+

gentle gyro
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you can craft it at a higher level than anything m+ gives you

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given the resources

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there is no downside to crafting it now besides potentially getting a dupe out of m+ which is miniscule

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even then, you will eventually still have the crafted piece

alpine latch
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It's how luck works - the second you craft an item that's the next item slot you'll loot

red tinsel
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
gentle gyro
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you will still use that piece of gear in the end

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so you lose nothing except a small sidegrade, potentially, for now

alpine latch
#

maybe

#

Maybe not

gentle gyro
#

i can set it to mythic itemlevel

alpine latch
#

If you craft a belt and you get a belt from your +20 GV, the crafted is useless

gentle gyro
#

following this logic, you shouldn't craft anything at all

alpine latch
#

No, following my logic it doesn't matter what you craft because it may or may not be obsolete in a week or two

#

Craft whatever is best for you today, not what is best for you in a month

#

We get another craft on raid week so there's no point in holding onto it, but there's also no point in using it before your m0s are done next week

gentle gyro
#

what I have is already better than anything m0 gives

alpine latch
#

cool..

gentle gyro
#

so holding onto it is pointless in that regard

#

but i don't even think we disagree really, at least not enough to warrant all this

alpine latch
#

But if you have 343 bracers because you've had absolutely shit luck in getting bracers and you crafted gloves but loot gloves in m0, you just wasted your craft because bracers would have been better

#

Your argument is really weird man

#

I'm not saying to never craft something, I'm saying you only have one, so be smart about it for a boost on raid opening. Nothing more, nothing less. Crafted gear might be meaningless in the long run outside of a few niche cases

#

If you don't care about maximizing your damage going into raid, then do whatever the hell you want

gentle gyro
#

this is what I originally took issue with

#

everything else you say is correct and we don't really disagree

alpine latch
#

Yeah, I was being hyperbolic. What you craft doesn't matter

#

The way that my luck works, personally, is the second I craft something - that's the next item slot I loot.

#

I doubt I'm the only one who gets shat on by the cosmos

royal lantern
#

everything is pointless in the end

normal mist
#

As a lw, i had luck dropping one of those items that can increase the ilvl of a craft (a epic one) so after i finish all the m0 i still missed the chest piece, so you bet I crafted a 376 chest! (Not using the 387 epic crafting item yet, I'll wait for raid week)

royal lantern
normal mist
#

Exactly

normal mist
#

This is the kind of min max that won't matter for like 90% of us but ego

strange python
#

There are crafted pieces with unique effects that are BiS even against every mythic raid and m+ item available

alpine latch
strange python
#

Ingenuity sparks are not limitless

strange python
#

The necklace is widely available

normal mist
#

Your part of the 10% i didn't mention

strange python
#

The dagger is not hard to get

#

Both of those outperform every single item

flint ridge
#

given that we're here, what's the best thing to waste money right now then to use our spark as assass?

strange python
#

Yes, wasting ingenuity sparks on a random life-bound leather pieces is dumb. But crafting the neck or dagger is absolutely not a waste.

normal mist
#

I'm part of a good "maybe we clear heroic before nerfs" team xD

strange python
#

Because you don't replace them, you just upgrade them

normal mist
#

Hes just said it

strange python
#

I'm LW, I see lots of crafting orders for the terrible life-bound pieces

#

Someone might also want the 2set gloves which are attainable from tuskarr rep

alpine latch
#

Are you talking about Elemental Lariat?

strange python
#

Decayed boots maybe

alpine latch
#

Because I don't see how that would be better than anything m+/raid gives

strange python
#

Okay you can take it up with the Sims then

alpine latch
#

Oh perfect, can you show me the sims?

strange python
#

FAQ buddy

alpine latch
#

(there's no sims in the FAQ, but I got you)

true pelican
strange python
#

1k secondary stats of your choosing, 3 sockets, and a proc. How is that not intuitively better than anything else

gentle gyro
#

so i can get the weekly done

#

legit 0 up

alpine latch
#

wait it gets 3 sockets?

#

wtf?

true pelican
#

every neck can get 3 sockets

strange python
#

Fucking fr. The LW crafting order weekly is awful. I had to make an alt and make my own personal order requests

alpine latch
#

Then doesn't every neck get 1k secondary stats of your choosing?

#

lol

strange python
#

Because LW makes nothin of value until raid stats

#

?????? If a necklace drops it has whatever stats it has

alpine latch
#

btw

#

Neither of these are using that neck

#

So IDK what sims you're talking about

gentle gyro
#

only with a 2nd account I assume

true pelican
#

why are you linking fuu's stuff

alpine latch
#

Why wouldn't I?

strange python
alpine latch
#

Where are the "right" sims if not Fuus?

gentle gyro
#

time to make some LW requests then

strange python
#

Fuu didn't sim crafted gear lol

true pelican
#

he doesn't have crafted on there yet

alpine latch
#

Then were are they?

strange python
#

Whispyr.

true pelican
#

i trust whispyr

#

he said they're +1%, they're +1%

alpine latch
#

I'm just saying - I asked and was told to check the FAQ. I looked at the FAQ, and there's no sims - so I used the only resource I know of.

#

I'm not saying Whispyr is wrong, I'm asking where I can find more about it

true pelican
alpine latch
#

ty

true pelican
#

that's in faq

alpine latch
#

Glanced right over that, derp

brazen zodiac
#

lol

strange python
#

Snowball set went down by half damn. Must've been the "or heal"

alpine latch
#

my reading comprehension is so bad, ugh

strange python
#

The only real reason to hold off on crafting is that it seems like things will be cheaper this coming weekend, but before raid release. Or if you think tuning will happen.

#

I'm inclined to believe blizzard wouldn't tune crafted items with time gated mats but...

flint ridge
#

so should i go boots or the helm leather then?

strange python
#

Neither

#

Necklace and dagger

#

The helm was OP as outlaw, but only if you got the "very rare" ring off the first boss

#

I assume most guilds will prioritize evokers for that

flint ridge
#

does the ring amplify the helm fire aoe?

dapper zodiac
#

where is whispyrs guide btw?

#

i cant see it in pinned anymore

flint ridge
#

type !guide

dapper zodiac
#

!guide

dapper zodiac
#

ty

strange python
#

Unless Sims are wrong, the helm procs the ring

#

But the ring has Garbo stat weights for sin

#

I think it's like 900 vers which is why it did well for outlaw

runic maple
#

wld u say sin is more "fun" compared to shadowlands?

strange python
#

Depends what you find fun

runic maple
#

just the feel of the class basicly

strange python
#

Currently it has a lot more buttons to press, a lot more to manage, but it's a lot slower

#

For a lot of sin players, it's fun to have a lot of things to control and to manage your energy to do it effectively.

flint ridge
#

i see. i'm on the fence on using it on a dagger. how does recrafting works?

strange python
#

Some players like to bash their keyboard and press lots of buttons. Sin was like that a little bit at the end of SL and isn't anymore

runic maple
#

hmm was a bit of a basher myself lol

strange python
#

Beyond that, idk what else goes into it.

flint ridge
#

but it is really smart since you won't get cocked by a dagger drop since you still need two

#

and you can get crit + mastery with missive right?

fading spade
#

As a long time sin spec player I feel that while there are more buttons, it's more engaging. It's more than it used to be. Mut and envenom spam OH REFRESH GARROTE. back to mut envenom spam. REFRESH RUPTURE

runic maple
fading spade
#

There's more to do, more to manage and it keeps my attention better than it used to

strange python
runic maple
#

gotcha

fading spade
gentle gyro
#

you don't like pressing garotte 10 times?

fading spade
#

Nope. Should be 12 minimum for max fun

#

Ofc I run kingsbane instead of dtb cuz I hate myself and want an extra button lol

alpine latch
#

well shit, so we can't actually get neck until raid week and that's only if a level 100 JC gets the pattern.

subtle tundra
#

Getting 100 jc is awful

strange python
#

Can't be as bad as 100 LW

#

At 60 LW you stop getting points from anything but epics that are bad (so no one wants) and 200 leather toys. Unless you get the PVP patterns

strange python
#

I honestly hate crafting and hope it isn't a mainstay of the rest of the patches for player power.

cerulean nimbus
#

Hi, for PvP Assa what stats are better getting in pvp shop ? Crit + Versa or Haste + versa ?

alpine latch
#

I got points until like 65 by crafting helms (I have a lot of points into leather helm)

normal mist
#

You can"maybe" get 1 point if you craft like the head piece

alpine latch
#

yeah, it blows

#

But you can

#

I have 10+ points into the helm spec

normal mist
#

And people going for vers/haste afaik

alpine latch
#

I'm currently at 67 LW and.. it's painful

cerulean nimbus
alpine latch
#

No one wants any of the 9 epic patterns I can make, lol

#

I need to start crafting the Frosted Armor Kits, though

normal mist
#

I got to sell 1 green pvp mail pants (learned the pattern) for 10k so I'm happy

alpine latch
#

nice

#

Making gold on profs has been a massive pita

#

I have a few things that have been good, but most things I lose money on - like the frosted armor kits. I can get points, but I lose a lot of gold for it

normal mist
#

Join hunts, skin while following the groups = profit

alpine latch
#

sure, but that's not the same as LW being profitable

#

That's skinning being profitable

normal mist
#

And you use the materials to create stuff with lw

alpine latch
#

That's still losing money

subtle tundra
alpine latch
#

If you can sell the leather/scales for more gold than you can the crafted item, crafting it is a loss

subtle tundra
#

Leather is so cheap

#

Even rank 3

alpine latch
#

yup

subtle tundra
#

Global ah fucked prices

normal mist
#

The AH itself is fucked

#

90% of the time i can't even buy stuff xD

subtle tundra
#

Taking so long to buy shit is so frustrating

alpine latch
#

I'm hoping to get to 75 LW tonight, probably going to cost me another 60k to gain 2 points 😦

viscid spear
#

Not having a Mass Disenchant is frustrating

dusty zenith
#

anyone doing alchemy?

viscid spear
subtle tundra
#

Oh no

#

She is dead. You can't get her back

sand dirge
#

one question on the opener without exsang:
why are we using vanish + garr so soon in the opener when the first garrote is not even in pandemic? when i'm supposed to press vanish + garr my first garr is at like 16 seconds remaining. isnt this a waste of uptime?

sick eagle
dusty zenith
#

i was wondering this as well

viscid spear
hollow river
royal lantern
viscid spear
#

God I sure love having all my limbs

royal lantern
#

otherwhise you would use vanish and dm seperate for the rest of the fight, and that feels somewhat weird

viscid spear
#

But I'd sure give an arm and a leg to get my Mom back
Figuratively speaking, of course

sand dirge
viscid spear
#

Late night gaming mode today, gonna start on my Rogue

red tangle
#

Hey, i know leveling is not a great reflection of the endgame of a spec, but i’m leveling my rogue as assassination, and i notice that i often don’t have the energy or combo points to press anything, and i basically just stand there. Is that the same for lategame? Specifically in raids

night iris
#

Was IC always 45 seconds?

exotic robin
#

Was 60

oblique tangle
viscid spear
#

You can pick other buffs but allegedly it turns into that Mastery buff if you die

#

Idk if it's been fixed yet

oblique tangle
#

I'm not sure, I just finally botheredd to go and find the spot it kept talking about

#

Turns out I get to picck a hot mastery buff so like

#

I support it

next edge
#

nerf sin nerf tryan

spice spire
next edge
#

im waiting my flight so was a bit bored

spice spire
#

Just woke up from my migraine so been better, gotta work late as a result despairge

#

Be safe on your flight mister lambda Prayge

next edge
quasi osprey
next edge
#

he's staying with grandpas 😦

uncut echo
#

I'll be 70 tn, deleted my demon hunter

#

Cant wait to dtb all over the place

cursive frost
#

How is assa simming after ensang nerf compared to other classes for ST? Is it still competitive?

uncut echo
#

Still on top my guy

#

One of if not the best

spice spire
slim hamlet
spice spire
#

But yeah we’re still on top of rogue specs which were considered highly tuned

spice spire
slim hamlet
#

No

#

Just random art

spice spire
#

Ahh apologies then

#

Loosely dh pfp 🤨

slim hamlet
#

Commision from some random

slim hamlet
#

Guess I have to change pfp then

spice spire
#

No, just yokes buddy

spice spire
slim hamlet
#

There we go

#

Changed my mind like the old one better

cursive frost
#

What a time to be alive as a rogue, outlaw feels awesome in dungeons and Assassination is feeling fun

topaz gazelle
#

imo even more fun than outlaw

cursive frost
#

How does it do throughput wise vs outlaw in dungeons

slim hamlet
#

Depends on a lot of things

#

Usual pug pulls and run in general = outlaw

#

With a tank that understands how to play with you sin seems really great

topaz gazelle
#

i was hitting higher numbers, but my tank/healer are lil crazy

#

also just dislike spammy specs like outlaw so there's that

cursive frost
#

I have an awesome tank I run with regularly, and maybe it’s a change weekly depending on fort vs tyrannical

#

But I love both specs

valid dawn
#

Assa should do better than it does in these m0's because of first week affixes? More pack hp 🙂

slim hamlet
#

With IC and KB build yeah

cursive frost
#

And likely the higher the key when packs don’t just flop over

slim hamlet
#

At some point outlaw will prob be better

#

But also depends, because iron wire is just so wicked

topaz gazelle
#

yeah

cursive frost
#

It’s great to have multiple viable m+ spec and builds though

topaz gazelle
#

iron wire makes some pulls just a breeze

slim hamlet
#

SPecially for the df dungeeons

#

soo many interrupts

#

Don't know much about the older dungs

tulip dawn
#

So coming from Outlaw, is Assasination supposed to feel a lot slower? I feel like I spend a lot of time auto attacking and waiting for energy. Is this expected or am I doing something wrong?

spice spire
topaz gazelle
#

thats very expected

slim hamlet
#

don't think it actually is insanely slower

spice spire
#

Tea also had energy regen use

slim hamlet
#

on the apm

spice spire
#

If that tells you anything

slim hamlet
#

Biggest reason outlaw feels faster is bcs of AR I guess

tulip dawn
#

I'm making sure to start with Garrote, Rupture and SnD

#

But tbh I haven't played too much so I might just not have figured out how it all flows together yet.

#

Just felt like I wasn't pressing a button every global like Outlaw

topaz gazelle
#

in general outlaw is just a very fast spec, so its personal prefence. Kinda like some people prefer demon blades DH and some don't

#

i like not spamming a button every global

slim hamlet
#

I have quite a bit of wrist issues. When playing sin I can play for 3ish hours in a row before hurting

#

But outlaw is only like 1-2

#

So there def is some issues, might also jsut be different keybinds

spice spire
#

3 hours in your wrist is hurting monkaW

exotic parcel
#

ER doesn't seem to be scaling with rupture?

#

seems like rupture doesn't count as a 'finishing move'

spice spire
#

It does for me hmmCoffee

viscid spear
exotic parcel
#

i'm testing it on dummy's atm, and a 6cp rupture or a ER rupture ticks for the same damage

cursive frost
#

I used to main fury warrior and the carpel tunnel is real

coral rivet
#

when does garrote have cd?

spice spire
peak saffron
#

out of stealth, outside of subterfuge

spice spire
#

I’ll have to test it when I’m home later @exotic parcel

#

In like 11 hours

topaz gazelle
#

isn't that normal though ?

teal bloom
#

@exotic parcel Rupture's damage per tick doesnt change, only duration

topaz gazelle
slim hamlet
#

I'm in school 6 hours working, then going home and gaming

#

ofc my wrist hurts

#

But not CBS at least

exotic parcel
#

i'm stupid, nvm

slim hamlet
#

Stretch every hour 2ez

gusty mirage
#

Same

spice spire
#

You were doing damage ticks ohno

#

Glad we solved it

#

Thought you meant duration

gusty mirage
exotic parcel
#

ya ya, been awake for too long lmao

spice spire
exotic parcel
#

lets pretend i didn't ask a thing

spice spire
#

Once you do lmk

lusty thicket
#

Do wrist exercises

spice spire
exotic parcel
oblique jackal
#

Is the M+ rotation the same with MA?

short harness
#

Hi guys! I am looking for any PvP related info and so far cannot find anything. Would you guys be so kind to point me into some site or any up to date guide on how to play/build assa for PvP? Much appreciaite it

spice spire
#

We’re PvE noobs here

oblique jackal
#

Murkio

lone junco
#

For a large pack with a prio mob, if I start in hard on the biggest guy and blast st, including KB and deathmark, into IC vanish garrote/rupture for the trash.

Alternatively you could IC from stealth but have to wait for the shit to get stacked.

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
#

Also he's really good at teaching beginners

lone junco
#

I think 1 makes more sense. Cause if my WW gibs the trash before I commit IC, then I should just save for next pack.

slim hamlet
#

Slows it all down, and shows it on screen

green bay
#

Will the nerf to exsang make a huge difference in mythic +?

#

wondering if i should go back to outlawe

slim hamlet
#

Huge difference everywhere, but still good

#

Whispyr cooked a MA build up instead of exsang for m+

oblique jackal
#

Play whatever you want man

#

Numbers are always going to change

slim hamlet
#

Must play FOTM!

lone junco
#

Is MA still 50% and 4s or whatever?

oblique jackal
#

No

ebon notch
spice spire
next edge
#

after exsang nerf

#

is sin viable in pet battle?

#

ty

spice spire
topaz gazelle
#

Can i exsang deathmark after the nerf ?

plain onyx
#

can i not even use exsang, lots of keybinds to press 😔

slim hamlet
#

Have to play Bard

#

You can get away with rogue, but need at least 80 points in outland engineering

lone junco
#

Re: exang deathmark. You just hit deathmark second right? (That's how the apl does it).

You dont wait until the exang runs through.

slim hamlet
#

Saw a couple of youtubers saying sin was dead, and exsang was unusable after the nerf

#

Pretty nice

slim hamlet
lone junco
#

Right.

slim hamlet
#

Everything is fine with cds overapplying BESIDES exsanging in dm

#

that's illegal

topaz gazelle
lone junco
#

The only annoyance is the double garrote and double rupture. But we've been doing that since legion

slim hamlet
#

At least you only have to do that every 3 mins now exsangyay

lone junco
#

I could see that exang was problematic at 45s with 1 or 2min trinkets.

#

Did anyone figure out the IC immunity in keys? And if the iron wire is causing the IC to not land on trash?

slim hamlet
#

Soup alert

#

For EU at least

gloomy dust
#

Well atleast now exsanguinate can be macrod to irideus fragment exsangyay

halcyon arch
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
peak saffron
#

anyone have the cast sequence macro for poisons with dtb? don't feel like typing it out pls ty : )

strange silo
#

Quick question "In order of most to least important compared to non-crafted BiS:

  • Bronzed Grip Wrappings Offhand (+1.0%)" does this mean weapon craft will overall benefit the most?
short harness
subtle tundra
short harness
strange python
#

Kinda curious how PI stacks up for sin compared to boomie/warlock with exsang

neat plank
thick flax
#

So the nerf to exsanguinate, the 80% means it only ticks 80% faster instead of 100% right? Or am I misunstanding

spice spire
#

Correct

silk bane
#

not sure if its the right place to ask but anyone knows how to change spell queue values?

gusty mirage
#

/console SpellQueueWindow 300
Change the 300 to the value you want

silk bane
#

@gusty mirage youre a chad dude i love you ❤️ thanks

white temple
#

Where is the "burn exsang party" happening?

gusty mirage
#

nowhere

#

we still play it

white temple
#

Fuck.

gusty mirage
#

it's less intrusive of a choice though

#

if you hate it

#

it's sacrificing like 1.5% dps

#

which is a a loss you can stomach

white temple
#

Instead of 6 or something

gusty mirage
#

yeah

wary ice
white temple
#

I ain't going against my core values

wary ice
#

at 45s i can understand the complaints against it

gusty mirage
wary ice
#

but like "oh no i have to reapply rupture slightly earlier every 3 mintues"

wary ice
gusty mirage
#

ngl I'mma miss the 45s exsang

#

it was super nice in dungeons

#

for destroying a chunky mob

wary ice
#

i was always team exang ngl

#

but im also sub rogue so no one cares what i think

gusty mirage
wary ice
#

you shouldnt :^)

gusty mirage
#

this isn't outlaw, we don't shame people for "not maining the spec"

#

we only shame outlaw rogues here

wary ice
#

imagine playing fury rogue

gusty mirage
#

I don't have ot imagine it

#

😦

wary ice
#

Unironically im torn between playing assa and sub and its sucha good problem to have

gusty mirage
#

season 1 shadowlands existed

#

I need to play more sub

#

get used to it

wary ice
#

Sec Tec being a button worth pressing feels very good

#

the new dance stuff is very much an "eh" from me. but it doesnt feel so bad to play that i care that much

shell kraken
#

!ambush

prisma monolithBOT
#

Ambush/Mutilate Macro:
You can macro Ambush to Mutilate using a advanced macro addon.
Further Explanation/Details:
#assassination message

junior pulsar
#

Was the exsanguinate + IC so OP they had to make it a 3 min. A shame

gray crest
#

As much as I don't like the recent iterations of sub, it felt good in the couple dungeons I did

subtle tundra
#

what the fuck is an exsang + ic

deft vault
#

Had nothing to do with IC. Exsang by itself was insane level of overpowered

subtle tundra
#

exsang doesnt interact with ic

spice spire
#

(I’m bullying don’t take me seriously)

junior pulsar
#

Misunderstood tooltip entirely, thought exsanguinate was aoe applicable. My bad

pine ore
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
spice spire
#

God bless

gusty mirage
#

nah

#

he wants to play outlaw

spice spire
#

Oh nvm

#

He’s special Aww

gray crest
#

Lmao I can play both sin and outlaw

wary ice
gusty mirage
#

he's a liar

#

he abandoned the cause for mage in s4

#

and he's a fed @spice spire

#

be careful

gray crest
#

I can't win can I

gusty mirage
#

I like you more than I like our other option at rogue

#

that should mean something

spice spire
#

He can play both

#

But can he play Bofa?

gusty mirage
#

no one can play bofa your nuts

#

they're bluer than the atlantic

spice spire
#

Idk what that means

viscid spear
alpine latch
gusty mirage
#

only when he has weekly keys to do

viscid spear
gusty mirage
#

he'll unplug someone's grandmother faster than you can imagine

#

so he can go home faster

spice spire
alpine latch
#

I love being in a group and seeing Quake apply for the group

#

Always a great feeling

gusty mirage
#

ngl everytime I see someone from RH apply to a group I'm in

#

I tell the lead to insta decline them

#

I don't trust any of yall

#

I've seen the dumb shit yall say

alpine latch
#

I tried getting him a rare kill the other day but he was too slow

spice spire
#

It’s true

#

I was despairge

#

I appreciate it tho

viscid spear
spice spire
#

Any good parse = George

alpine latch
#

FWIW the dude who was going to spawn it for us didn't get the kill either

spice spire
#

Bad = me

viscid spear
#

George must not play a lot, huh DoubleHeHe

spice spire
#

Nah he’s taken a few tiers off

#

The move was stressful ya know?

gentle roost
#

oh

spice spire
viscid spear
#

Imposter!

dusty zenith
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soory im new. What is RH?

spice spire
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Ravenholdt

viscid spear
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An illusion, what are you hiding?

spice spire
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The server we are in

gusty mirage
gentle roost
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im the real george

spice spire
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Sorry pal, my dog has taken that rite. You’re an imposter!

shell kraken
dusty zenith
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I heasrd the addon is janky

oblique tangle
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Man with DTB it'd be nice to have poison presets