assassination

[alpine latch]

So leveling, we're rolling with deadly/instant + atrophic/numbing and just gigapulling thanks to a shit ton of self heal and dtb?

[spice spire]

Sure man

[nocturne current]

You know what's the sad part.

I took the day off today to play, because I thought the release was in the early morning and tomorrow I have to work.

And I didn't do anything today of fun but sleep.

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not double checking that

Scrub

[nocturne current]

[rain oyster]

imagine not working from home

and getting paid to play wow

[nocturne current]

I work from home, but I still need to work.

Double sad.

[rain oyster]

[nocturne current]

So close, yet so far.

Fuck fiscal months.

[uneven summit]

Is there an addon list for launch? Some nifty addons for it

[uncut echo]

Disable them til you hit max

Muh lua

[rain oyster]

immersion

for big immersion

[thorny pond]

gonna /cast stealth and hide for 3 hours as I immerse myself in work

[copper hazel]

spellbook gaming only

[strange python]

Kinda curious how sin will do in this raid. I missed all the testing, but it looks like a lot of fights have a lot of adds that die somewhat quickly. Which isn't sins strong suit

[idle radish]

first xpac as a rogue kinda scared... what if i dont stop every cast...

[thorny pond]

We can prio well

[spice spire]

/cast only

[thorny pond]

and boss DPS is always relevant

[subtle tundra]

it will be extremely good. like destro and surv were in s3 i've heard

[thorny pond]

roll a nat 20, pick your spec

[thorn crater]

is azeroth auto pilot updated?

[uncut echo]

Based take

[strange python]

Only if the add lives long enough for bleeds. Or I guess if exsang is up

[thorny pond]

two target with prio, hold CDs for that and still keep boss DPS up

that's huge

or "cleave" onto add(s)

[strange python]

Sennarth yeah, big spider. But kurog or daithea or brood maybe not

But who knows

[thorny pond]

raid comp also matters

like if you have AoE blasters, sin value goes up

or you can go sub and be that blaster

[rain oyster]

we're just a 3% dr poison boii

[spice spire]

We have 6 hours to shit post and you all are talking about actual game stuff?

I’m so proud

[slim hamlet]

Wrong

[thorny pond]

@spice spire I have plenty of time left

a whole xpac

[slim hamlet]

We get the useful stuff out there now

so we can shitpost on launch

easy

[uncut echo]

Exsang, bad?

[spice spire]

[idle radish]

exsang so bad!!

[rain oyster]

6 hours before all servers crash and we play tomorrow

[thorny pond]

bye Felicia

[slim hamlet]

Yep worst talent

only like .1% dmg increase

sux

[spice spire]

Exsang is about to be a filtered word

[uncut echo]

Good

[slim hamlet]

[subtle tundra]

well apparently realz didnt like my suggestion to make MA 100%

so we're stuck with exsang

😔

[thorny pond]

thanks

[spice spire]

He made a comment about it a very long time ago

[thorny pond]

way to go

[spice spire]

Saying that it will never work that way

[thorn crater]

feral is the worst designed spec in the game

[rain oyster]

havent watched but is Neymar diving all over the field like usual rn?

[royal lantern]

what

[subtle tundra]

#1043929861716181076

[idle radish]

go play shadow

[rain oyster]

rip

[thorn crater]

2 took the bait

expected more

[uncut echo]

Lulw

[idle radish]

i will take any chance i have to slander shadow

[subtle tundra]

just saying random weird takes isnt baiting people

[royal lantern]

^

[rain oyster]

tfw sin gets replaced by a house cat

[thorn crater]

love your use of the word weird. ignorance with no bounds

[uncut echo]

How is that ignorance

[thorn crater]

how is that weird

[uncut echo]

How is

Ya feel?

[idle radish]

Ahri is a bad champ

[subtle tundra]

whatever dude. you do you.

[rain oyster]

how isnt anything weird

[subtle tundra]

no point in engaging conversation with you

[uncut echo]

It's my name irl!

[final star]

nerf assassination

[rain oyster]

i vote hug it out and kiss

[idle radish]

do you also do no dmg irl

[uncut echo]

I slay bitch tf you mean

[rain oyster]

thats the moral goal

[nimble tartan]

i just want to say to any developer reading this, do not touch exsang. The players dont know better, its working exactly as it should <3

[rain oyster]

do no dmg

[spice spire]

Love u

[tribal mauve]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[idle radish]

What Is Dmg ? -confucius

[rain oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/jesusisafriend-out-of-this-house-exorcism-cross-church-gif-9309545

[uncut echo]

I'll engage with you Varas

[subtle tundra]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

im scared sorry

[spice spire]

Why

[subtle tundra]

human interaction is always scary

[uncut echo]

But I'm cozy

[nimble tartan]

mfs just wanna press shiny button on cd no thought smh, me i will consider my buttons

[rain oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

dont have to interact with people if you pretend they're all NPCs

[spice spire]

I enjoy all of you

Never change

[trail mica]

Am I being ungrateful if I ask for IC to be 30 sec?

[idle radish]

i might not learn how to play rogue properly so i can keep its performance down = no nerfs

[subtle tundra]

thats when i stop playing assa in m+

[trail mica]

I'm cool with 31 secs if it makes a difference for you

[spice spire]

No but also yes

[subtle tundra]

i'd rather have no ic than ic on 30 sec

[uncut echo]

Why is that Varad

[spice spire]

The hero we need

[subtle tundra]

i like ruptures

i like garrotes

[uncut echo]

You dropped this

[ruby birch]

if ic was 30 sec assa would probably get omega nerfed

[coral fulcrum]

hi guys what spec are the best one to level as for rogue from 1-60 and when dragonflight release 60-70

[next edge]

Nerf Oxi

[rain oyster]

i like rupturing your garrotes 😉

[uncut echo]

Outlul or sub for levelling

Is usually recommended

[trail mica]

60-70 is broken on ambush outlaw

[rain oyster]

bm hunter

[coral fulcrum]

how do rogue in raiding look ?

[spice spire]

This joke was funny the first 600 times it was used

[uncut echo]

Very reasonable. Sin on pure st is nice, but lacks the ability to hit prio adds.

[spice spire]

Good, play what you want

[trail mica]

leveled both as outlaw and sub on beta, stealth > 2 ambush > dispatch is 99% dead mob all the way until 70

[uncut echo]

Outlaw does lower ST, BUT CLEAVES EASY

Sub is sub

Sub hits mass adds v well or does good single, but cries when its 2-3 targwts

[spice spire]

Sub exists and is actively decent

[idle radish]

Is DragonRiding Going To Be Good In DragonFligh t? ?

[coral fulcrum]

i am new as rogue so what spec would be the easyest to raid as for rogue in dragonflight 🙂 ?

[subtle tundra]

they all have their depth

[uncut echo]

Just pick your facorite

[rain oyster]

flying dragon go zooooooooooom

[subtle tundra]

outlaw probably

[uncut echo]

Outlaw has nuances but is pretty straightforward

[trail mica]

I like dragon riding very much

[uncut echo]

It's just VERY fast.

[idle radish]

ok might reroll to dragon rider

[alpine latch]

As others said, probably outlaw. Mostly because the rotation for ST and cleave/aoe is basically identical

[rain oyster]

full time dragon riding gamer

[idle radish]

Ok I DragonRide .

[trail mica]

Dragon rider in keys is broken, pls nerf

[rain oyster]

soar above the haters

[nimble tartan]

@trail mica whats ur otl leveling build i will coly

copy

[uncut echo]

Check with #outlaw

And #outlaw-faq

[idle radish]

why is dh momentum playstyle so gross?

soirry for the off topic!!!

[uncut echo]

Has everything you need to know. ❤️

[rain oyster]

who needs a talent build for leveling when we're all pet battling to 70?

[trail mica]

BQQAOB/7AZ//CwQOf4fPMswHVDAAgERSASSCBASSkkkISSSSIAAAAAAARigDgDAJJpEAAAA

[spice spire]

Y’all are out of pocket

[uncut echo]

[nimble tartan]

i want his

he got a diff one

[copper hazel]

pet battle levelling build pls

[rain oyster]

panther cub

[nimble tartan]

ty king

[spice spire]

Reminds me of her

[uncut echo]

Perhaps discuss it in #outlaw

[nimble tartan]

no

[spice spire]

Perhaps discuss it in #outlaw

[nimble tartan]

no

[rain oyster]

GOD

[uncut echo]

Lmao

Ok bud

[rain oyster]

mans stomping the law

[thorn fjord]

Ah man these next 2 weeks are gonna be SICK

[trail mica]

guess we #outlaw now

[nimble tartan]

im so excited <3

[spice spire]

This is what omr-mal’ganis does

[idle radish]

might reroll to ragnaros

[rain oyster]

this is a shitposting channel for the next 6 hrs

[spice spire]

No man

[nimble tartan]

simple 1-2 question got the birds chirpin

gotta police me smh

[thorn fjord]

lets not get slow mode on release day plz

[uncut echo]

I mean you asked 7

[spice spire]

Something something 1984 buddy

[uncut echo]

All pertaining to outlaw

Which we gave you resources for, and you elected not to use them

[nimble tartan]

fabricated

[coral fulcrum]

are the outlaw rotation hard for raiding ?

ohh

fml

[rain oyster]

LOL

[thorn fjord]

LOL

[thorny pond]

omar needs more max=max resources

[trail mica]

its ok, this is main outlaw channel now

[thorn fjord]

I do not envy you @spice spire

[nimble tartan]

they thought it was me 🤣🤣

[spice spire]

Brother, you should see this man in raid chat on a Wednesday

This is nothing

[nimble tartan]

gotta show the red names how to play sin again smh

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[uncut echo]

Cuz outlaw shit

[thorny pond]

I am apping to guilds on launch day

wish me luck

[uncut dragon]

So, is my big cooldown now rupture-vanish-garrote-exanguinate-deathmark?

[copper hazel]

ye

[uncut echo]

For better or dor worse. Yeah

[rain oyster]

clunky ass exanguinate

[uncut dragon]

So a 5 button cooldown.

[spice spire]

Gl mister beach. They’re gonna see that pfp and know that ur the one

[uncut echo]

Exsang 🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥺🥺🥺🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🥳🥳🥳🥰❤️❤️🥰🥰🥳🥰🥰🥺🥺🥺🥺

[nimble tartan]

im recruiting ranged

[copper hazel]

dont forget kingsbane

[uncut dragon]

that's 2 more buttons than a demon hunter uses for their entire rotation.

[oak sky]

Make it happen bro get the bread

[rain oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/purge-button-press-fast-gif-17107922

[uncut echo]

Then go dh

[thorny pond]

George is the realest one

[trail mica]

don't forget kinsbane + 2 shivs

[spice spire]

Wrong discord papi

[uncut dragon]

I was thinking DTB instead of kingsbane...

[idle radish]

recruting DH player

who Want

[uncut echo]

With tier, they're in margin of eachother

[thorny pond]

lets start our own rogue guild

[uncut echo]

Typically if you lust for execute, kb would win

[rain oyster]

whats it gonna be called?

[uncut echo]

Ravenholdt Degens

[thorny pond]

Ravenholtd - we always get the d last

[uncut echo]

Ravenholdt Rejects

[spice spire]

[next edge]

7-8% in execute

if im not msitaken

[spice spire]

I wish I could recruit all of rh

[uncut echo]

The whole fight isn't in execute

[rain oyster]

execute is for warriors

[next edge]

But execute is rly important

[rain oyster]

this is a rogue disc

[next edge]

and SIn is extremely good there

[uncut echo]

Bruh

It matters for less than 1% of the playerbase here

[next edge]

Execute phase, specially in prog

[uncut echo]

They can play what they want

[next edge]

is 35% of boss hp

how is that a 1% matter of playerbase

[rain oyster]

the world caters to thew 1% tho 🤔

[next edge]

I wasn't saying he can't play DTB?

[nimble tartan]

real shit

[next edge]

just said that its not that supere close diff

because in execute KB pulls ahead

[uncut echo]

Because needing good execute doesn't matter for most guilds getting CE even

[nimble tartan]

wrong

[next edge]

That's not even true

[thorn fjord]

Execute can be progs best friend

[next edge]

Execute is super important on some fights

[uncut dragon]

Glad I had execute on Sylvanas

[uncut echo]

It literally fucking is bro, you can get CE without a single execute class

[oak sky]

Execute makes the fight end quicker

[uncut echo]

The game is designed to be cleared by all classes

[next edge]

You can get CE with 20 ferals if you want to

[oak sky]

But like mothing is actually required

[next edge]

waht kind of argument is that

[nimble tartan]

shaking

[woeful wigeon]

GL ALL HOPE YOU DONT HAVE LONG SERVER QUEUE AND ENJOY THE ROGUE'S in DF

[next edge]

Not being required doesn't mean it's not important

lmao

[idle radish]

is there a common opinion that there wont be enough to do in DF? seems weird that ive been seeing it

[nimble tartan]

tell em!!

[next edge]

You dont require priest stamina buff but it's important

[thorn fjord]

You ok today @uncut echo ?

[next edge]

you can kill a boss without a single execute class

but having 2-3 makes it way easier

[slim hamlet]

wowhead guide updated

poggies

[uncut echo]

I'm fine man, I'm just not getting my point accross

[rain oyster]

boss can die if hp 0

big facts

[nimble tartan]

for power gains in the first 2 weeks its m0s weekly and heroics if u want to fill slots

[slim hamlet]

All the new stuff on wowhead guide are really well done tbh

[nimble tartan]

but there is a lot to do outside of power gains

[next edge]

Not needing execute doesnt mean its not importnat

Execute is rly important

and for a lot of guilds that lack more on mechanics

having extra dmg

[idle radish]

i agree, and its optional which is nice

[next edge]

specially where healers might be struggling the most

is rly important

lol

[spice spire]

The insane execute doesn’t necessarily matter because by the time 99% the guilds get there, they have appropriate gear for the content, and focusing on play is more important than builds

[uncut echo]

^

That was what I was trying to get across

[rain oyster]

dont need to heal if everyones dead sub 35% 🤔

[spice spire]

I think is more along their point

[oak sky]

Tbf speeding up the last phase is always high value though

Since its less time to make mistakes

[next edge]

Which doesn't mean it's valuable for them anyways

[thorn fjord]

Killing the boss is off Meta tbh

[nimble tartan]

yeah no matter what making the hardest part of the fight shorter is insane

[next edge]

unvaluable*

[uncut echo]

[rain oyster]

hardest part of the fight is typically in between pulls when youre losing gold in GCG

[uncut echo]

All I was saying Lambda is that it's not end all be all for a lot of the playerbase

[idle radish]

vyn why u SAY THAT?

[spice spire]

I’m not arguing either point btw, just trying to clarify

[uncut echo]

I was not saying it isn't good

[idle radish]

PTSD

[next edge]

Yeah i agree on that

[uncut echo]

Valid

Mb for misconstruing my argument

[next edge]

your bad for playing rogue

its ok

[uncut echo]

Im on mobile and you popped off before I could catch up

[next edge]

[uncut echo]

Lmao

[next edge]

Im freezing at home and gotta heat my fingers

and im lazy to prepare the exams

[rain oyster]

use the 4090 space heater

[uncut echo]

me trying to catch up

[next edge]

got 3 eexams tomorrow to do , might just give an empty sheet to students

and fuck em

[spice spire]

Fuck them kids

[next edge]

After today's class, I'm about to do it

fuck the World Cup

it's impossible to have 5 minutes of silence

[uncut echo]

Ayo pause

[spice spire]

Sistren no

I see too much at work for that one

[uncut echo]

BUDDY

U GOOD?

[nocturne current]

Not only execute but Kingsbane provides better burst. So in situations that you need to pop the shield off something or break something it's the difference between wipe > survive.

[spice spire]

I am good (dead inside)

[vernal adder]

[uncut echo]

Hi ramlu 🥰

[vernal adder]

Ello

[rain oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-parrot-funny-colorful-gif-15947282

[spice spire]

If I see more than 2 lines it’s getting uwu’d

[oak sky]

The conversation wasnt about burst but yeah sure

[spice spire]

Not onwie execute but kingsbane pwovides bettew buwst. So in situations dat you need to pop da shiewd off somethim ow bweak somethim it's da diffewence between wipe > suwvive.

[vernal adder]

Jesust

[thorny pond]

Cool discord bot we got

[rain oyster]

UwU?

[copper hazel]

[next edge]

Quake is lost

Exsang made him go nutz

[thorn fjord]

Poor George

[idle radish]

there should be raids but instead of bosses its higher leveled players. imagine 20 lvl 60s vs a lvl 70

[spice spire]

This is what it’s like with you mfs going off

[nocturne current]

So what was the conversation about then?

[naive lagoon]

silly question: when i open with garrote and ambush, there is a 1-2s delay for my action bar to switch to un-stealth action bar. does it have something to do with my talents or is it the game?

[thorn fjord]

The game@

[thorny pond]

did ya take subterfuge?

[spice spire]

Game, I keep all my bars the same

This could be due to subterfuge tho

[naive lagoon]

i diiiiiiiiiiiid!

[thorn fjord]

Yeah he’s more than likely using subterfuge

[oak sky]

Literally only about execute specifically

[thorny pond]

Beach is correct again

[copper hazel]

the lvl 70 would get slaughtered

[slim hamlet]

🤔

[naive lagoon]

thank you all haha!

[idle radish]

needs a hotfix

[spice spire]

No worries, good luck!

[thorny pond]

slaughter was shadowlands beta

but thank you for playing

[gusty kestrel]

np

[nocturne current]

But people were arguing why Kingbane worth above DTB, then someone brought execute into the topic, but even Execute isn't the only plus..

[thorny pond]

on demand burst is always relevant even outside of execute

[thorn fjord]

KB is just sexier than DTB

[alpine latch]

Oh wow, we can go double on use equip trinkets for m+ and it's not that major of a damage drop

[thorn fjord]

We’re all kings king

[uncut dragon]

IK kingsbane is sexy but I'm running out of keybinds.

[spice spire]

You have a full keyboard

[gusty kestrel]

is it a keyboard issue or a player issue

[sturdy merlin]

Ctrl F9 should be available

[thorny pond]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-trinity

more buttons

[jade abyss]

Take the pedal for kb

[idle radish]

i just bought a corsair scimator

[nocturne current]

If I would run DTB it wouldn't even be for the damage, but the + of being able to run 2 non-lethals which is pretty dope.

[idle radish]

skimmatar

[uncut dragon]

ya I use the naga and a tartarus, don't touch the keyboard

[alpine latch]

This loses twice, as I only use Logitech products and my fat stubby thumb is going to fuck it up hard

[thorny pond]

crippling + general tree non lethal is meh

[thorny pond]

ever consider hand reduction surgery?

[thorn fjord]

Logitech has one too

[alpine latch]

Naw I just need to stop being fat

But that's a work in progress

[thorn fjord]

Losing weight ain’t gonna make your hands smaller king

[idle radish]

guys i have big hands, just saying, is mouse button going to fit my big hands.. just saying i have big hands

[thorny pond]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g600-mmo-gaming-mouse.html

[uncut dragon]

I could get more keybinds but then I have to use the POS driver software from Razer.

[alpine latch]

You'd be surprised, actually

[thorn fjord]

Check what beach linked… if you’re not willing to change from Logitech that’ll be a nice option

[thorny pond]

pick your favorite flavour

I have used both, my mini mouse hands don't like how wide the Logi was

[spice spire]

Beachpatrol

[thorny pond]

Chocolate covered Quake

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I’m not a fan of the skimitar (feels cheap in your hands)

Never used the Logitech one

[thorny pond]

Birthday Quake with Sprinkles

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I don't like the form factor of the G600. I use the G502 Hero and love it. The only thing bound to my mouse is movement

and trinkets

[thorny pond]

you can use the 3rd button on it as another modifer

That is what I did

[thorn fjord]

Using the naga elite and it’s fine… been using naga since wrath

[thorny pond]

But when I healed I used all 12 on the side

[alpine latch]

side buttons are strafe, middle mouse button is autowalk. shift side buttons are trinkets and shit middle is mount

[thorn fjord]

I have all 12 buttons bound lol and have modifiers on more than half@

[alpine latch]

I tried changing my side buttons and I learned in 30s how reliant I am on them for strafing ngl

[uncut dragon]

Side buttons for me are defensives first row, movement second, aoe third, mounts 4th.

[thorny pond]

Just shift + 12 should be plenty of basic keybinds

[alpine latch]

I basically bind 1-6, then down from there. So TGV or left is bindable

[spice spire]

Imagine not binding qertxzvp

[thorny pond]

p is spellbook

I need to close it for mechanics

[spice spire]

P is battle rez/lust

[thorny pond]

I am sorry, this is rogue chat

[copper hazel]

P is stored in the balls

[strange python]

p is mutilate

[spice spire]

I’m an engineer/lw buddy

Get woke

[spice spire]

No

[thorny pond]

B

find your cables

click

click the dead moron

[crude sinew]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[alpine latch]

How the fuck do you bind p? How big is your hand?

[uncut dragon]

wait, you don't all type /cast mutilate ? what about immersion?

[rain oyster]

p is for exang cvause we aint using it 🙌

[thorny pond]

#bait

[uncut dragon]

Is there a bis list for dungeons yet?

[copper hazel]

no, itll depend on your personal sim

but general stats seem to go for crit/mast

[honest vessel]

bis lists are fake

[uncut dragon]

so are birds

[rain oyster]

except CoS ring

[honest vessel]

birds fake as fuck

[vernal adder]

[green harbor]

wowhead guides have bis weapons/trinkets for dungeons

[uncut dragon]

tyvm

dang that ring is sweet

[nocturne current]

There is only one Bis.

Feelscraft.

[green harbor]

[gusty mirage]

true

simpler times

[green harbor]

green whispyr, so cute

[spice spire]

Simpler times indeed

Wait until you see red oxi

[gusty mirage]

you actually have screenshots of that?

how about the ever rare yellow oxi during 9.0?

👀

[spice spire]

I don’t have yellow oxi

[oak sky]

Patreon oxi

[thorn fjord]

Someone give me the patreon link

i got money to burn

[spice spire]

https://www.patreon.com/ravenholdt

[subtle tundra]

hm

[spice spire]

That’s illegal sir

[subtle tundra]

they arent

[gray crest]

If you can't afford to donate, oxi does accept feet pics

[subtle tundra]

you can get them from a pharmacy

very legal to get

its called a drug store

[viscid spear]

Blood Red Name

[alpine latch]

The true BiS is running Whispering Incarnate and Hunger of the Pac and using double on equip trinkets, everyone knows that

[thorn fjord]

Alright i'm a poor member now 💪

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

[thorny pond]

what did it cost?

[spice spire]

No role change

Unluggy

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[thorn fjord]

$1 a month

lol

[spice spire]

$5 is the role change buddy

[thorn fjord]

it said both were

[trail mica]

CoS trinket feels good to press

[spice spire]

Did it?

[copper hazel]

nope

i just looked

$5 is the role

[thorn fjord]

ohhh

[copper hazel]

$1 is a pat on the back and name on website

[thorn fjord]

Ok time to upgrade LMAO

[spice spire]

[thorny pond]

dawg, we get nitro with this?

[copper hazel]

dont think nitro is in there

[spice spire]

No

[copper hazel]

just patreon to the ravenholdt

[thorn fjord]

Party on Wayne

[spice spire]

There we go

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/foxy-garth-waynes-world-gif-13192209

[copper hazel]

baller

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I loiter in here enough throughout the week so i might as well help the boiz out

[thorny pond]

how much for green name?

[thorn fjord]

3 years and lots of patience

😛

[thorny pond]

I was shit posting here in the OG days

[spice spire]

There’s no like specific thing for green.

I haven’t even been in Rh for 3 years yet

[oak sky]

Quake helperman

[thorny pond]

quake is a kind soul

[strange python]

Seems a little weird to me that the raid mastery/fire effect ring isn't on the sim?

[thorny pond]

who don't take $%^t from anyone

[alpine latch]

I contributed to the spreadsheets back in the EJ days

Do I win?

[thorny pond]

You take over for Ion

[alpine latch]

ew fuck that

I'd be terrible at game design

[thorny pond]

when he commits sudoku

[thorn fjord]

yeah seriously lol

[long pecan]

Hi, i think i had a macro for mutilate/ambush before but i lost it, does it exist and can it work with blindside?

[spice spire]

!bs

[prisma monolith]

Macroing Ambush to Mutilate only works with the use of a addon.
It comes with the downside that it often requires multiple key presss.
Suggested addon to use(Gnome Sequencer):http://tiny.cc/mxb6tz
Showcase Video: #assassination message

[spice spire]

Tho probably removed with conditionals being a thing

[gusty mirage]

thanks now I have to update the website

[thorn fjord]

I bumped it up to five to justify the work 🤣

[gusty mirage]

[alpine latch]

Is there not an API for that?

[gusty mirage]

you'd think there would be

but uh

yeah

[alpine latch]

That blows

lol

[gusty mirage]

might be able to scammaz fuu into getting moroes to auto populate a list or something of the people with the role

or maybe there's a plugin that can pull roles from a discord server

[alpine latch]

depending on the bots that's on the server that's super doable

[subtle tundra]

oh its only 1 dollar to look cool?

no, i wont do it, but thats cool

[alpine latch]

@gusty mirage https://docs.patreon.com/#get-api-oauth2-v2-webhooks

You should be able to set up a webhook to print it to a channel

[thorn fjord]

It’s ok @subtle tundra we know you’re still in uni

[gusty mirage]

oh

[subtle tundra]

I HAVE MONEY OK?

[gusty mirage]

well idk who has the deets for the patreon login tbh

[oak sky]

Me and varas out here broke boys

[thorn fjord]

Riiiight

[alpine latch]

Sure, it sounds like there's some dev work that would need to be done but webhooks are pretty easy

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[lone junco]

Anyone have a link for beta m+ comparison of the rogue specs?

Someone like dratnos or seli etc. Not looking for a Marcellan online hype video.

[celest helm]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz

[lone junco]

Noted. Looking for feels and vibes based on pack duration, and comparison of prio dmg. Etc.

It's fine tho. I'll just play both outlaw and assassin. One of them will stand out as time progresses.

[thorny pond]

Hard to gauge. General spec strengths from SL still stand

Outlaw is one button AoE still

[subtle tundra]

[celest helm]

idk what on earth feels or vibes mean lol. Assas uses IC and applys bleeds to 8 at a time, simple flow and slams exang/kb on prio targets. Sub has a whole new 1 dance build that bangs with uses dance macabre and secret technique for aoe poppin. And outlaw will make you fall asleep at your keyboard just like in SL

[lone junco]

I like the idea of the IC, but it's a dead button in st right

[nocturne current]

Long packs, overcap -> Assa
Short packs, undercap -> Outlaw
Burst damage -> Sub

There

[next edge]

bro what

[celest helm]

yeah but you have Zol and KB to make up for it entirely

[next edge]

I mean you do AoE with 1 spell, yeah, but the complexity of the spec is not "press and foget"

[thorny pond]

Press blade flurry

It’s simplified version

He asked for vibes

[lone junco]

Does KB have a stack duration like it used to?

[thorny pond]

I’m not elaborating

[next edge]

i guess then

[lone junco]

Blade flurry go brrrrrrrr

[celest helm]

have you logged in at all? log on your rogue and take 10 min on each spec to feel it out lol. Youll be able to feel the changes instantly

[next edge]

Outlaw has no burst AoE

so shorter packs doesn't benefit them

thats why the higher the key, the more they perform

as RC takes more value

[lone junco]

Been a priest/warrior for the past year. I'll catch up soon enough.

[next edge]

Or if you mean by short like low number of targets

[nocturne current]

Yeah I mean number of targets

[next edge]

Ah sure 😛

Although sub does quite well not onyl burst

but also AOE in general

rupture htis like a truck

[nocturne current]

Yeah Ill be honest, Sub is quite a jack of all trades

[alpine latch]

that's because it's all it is. It's good across the board but not really the best at anything

Which, to be fair, is good to have

[oblique tangle]

Is picking up 1 point in Improved Poisons really more valuable than getting a 15% damage boost through Zoldyck with DTB??

[lone junco]

My primary concern with assassin is always ramp time vs the others in group. If stuff lives long enough assassin is fun. If packs explode, it's much less fun.

I dabbled with IC in a torgast last night. So it will be nice for each pull.

[thorny pond]

Still exists outside of IC

[celest helm]

Thats the same as always that is the class fantasy of assass its is a DOT based spec. But in high keys it wont matter. all 3 rogue specs are within inches of each other

[lone junco]

KB used to be like 18 ticks or something. Sounds like the proper mob will live long enough to stack to full.

[uncut echo]

I want IC to be a toggle that causes us to cleave to 8 targets, but make our moves cost 25% more energy

[lone junco]

Meh. It's nice at 45s.

[subtle tundra]

wow you want to be sub

[celest helm]

eh idk thats basically just a shittier blade flurry

[uncut echo]

No it's OG busted bladeflurry

[next edge]

Gonna play sub s1 most likely because i really like it

and looks qutie fine on all pve situations

[next edge]

Seems to be the best at 4 target though

[lone junco]

Is it possible to have Subterfuge and NS at the same time?

[celest helm]

I think ill like sub once i understand DM and the new dance rotation more

[uncut echo]

/s

[subtle tundra]

you dont have to /s me

i know youre a joke

[next edge]

its really easy and straightforward tho

in fact its pretty much setted up

[uncut echo]

Pipe up and I'll hug you irl

[celest helm]

Yeah i havent had a ton of time on sub yet i plan to test it for a level or 2 while going and try to get the muscle memory down. I hear its fun once it doesnt feel clunky

[subtle tundra]

you couldnt even if you wanted to

[celest helm]

idk why it seems so complicated to me lol

[uncut echo]

Wanna bet?

[subtle tundra]

[nocturne current]

One thing is for sure, with exception to extremely high level keys, the rogue spec you want to play won't probably be the #1 issue why you fail the key, so play whatever makes you happier.

There will be a time where you start noticing it's because of the spec and that's when you know automatically it's the spec (assuming you're playing it good)

[thorn fjord]

I actually haven’t even bothered looking at anything sub

[uncut echo]

Redslow

King

[alpine latch]

I just started looking at specs like 3 hours ago

I was always going Sin though, unless it just got blown out of the water

[thorn fjord]

Up to date on both sin and pirate didn’t bother with sub… I see myself playing both specs mainly for raid and keys

Leveling with outlaw

[nocturne current]

What I am more curious to know is how many Outlaw/Sub players are going to make the transition to Assa tho.

[oak sky]

Im not really that up to date on sub and outlaw but idc

[alpine latch]

I'll probably fuck around with all specs

But I'll main Sin unless there's a reason to swap to something else for raid

[thorn fjord]

Using Sin for m0 should be fun tho can’t wait to finally play with SS

[oak sky]

I can learn outlaw and sub in a couple minutes if i closely read pins and faq

[burnt latch]

bold of u to assume u know how to read

[uncut echo]

Sinister strike uwu

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

Don’t forget your drakes tonight either boiz

It’s Christmas in November

[rain oyster]

cash me flying over yall collecting glyphs tn

fr fr

[thorny pond]

no cap?

[rain oyster]

my zoomer language skills dont go beyond that sadly

[thorny pond]

that's valid

[thorn fjord]

So cap for sure

[nimble tartan]

it smell funny

[alpine latch]

So does your face

[nimble tartan]

blame yo mama for that 1

[spice spire]

Outta pocket

[alpine latch]

Hey man, my mom has been lonely since my dad passed away so just don't hurt her and we're good

[thorny pond]

sorry homie

[thorn crater]

u cant get there without that point. tree wont open

[oblique tangle]

I think we can?

You just need 8 points, not 9

[thorn crater]

oh u took the 2 in VV

sim them both

see the diff

[oblique tangle]

Whispyr's build also takes 2 in VV

But picks up the extra Improved Poisons. I assume to assist with Amp applications

[true pelican]

most rogue players seem to swap to the best spec in raid at least, according to wclogs

[dark token]

except when it's sub

[nocturne current]

Sorry Mirage, I meant for m+ that is.

[night delta]

improved poison 1 being > zold 2 is wild

[oak sky]

Dtb moment

[night delta]

Which is even wierder that imp 2 < zold 1

Sounds like IP and Zold points are very close to each other

[thorn crater]

not that much on a DTB build

technically zoldyck applies on the execute

[oak sky]

Imp2 makes you overcap on too many amp poison stacks

Basically

[night delta]

Ah

That explains it

[thorn crater]

1 point on IP is good during the entirety of the fight

[oak sky]

It has diminishing returns

[thorn crater]

tbh im not sure if the DR thing is true or not

[night delta]

A shame that we never get to the poison dmg node

[thorn crater]

but sounds aobut right

[night delta]

It sounds like a slam dunk for dtb, on paper

Turns out it isn't I guess

[worldly root]

Guess its finally time to learn sin after leveling

[oblique jackal]

Anyone know where i can find the bleed pandemic timers?

[spice spire]

It’s just 30% of the duration

[subtle tundra]

lvl check, im still 60

[spice spire]

Assuming this is what you’re checking so You can manually input them

Unless you mean a wa with it, in which case; my apologies

[night delta]

Garrote : 5,4 s
Rupture without EP : 7,2 s
Rupture with EP : 8,4 s

[oblique jackal]

ty ❤️

[thorn crater]

9.6 for the 7cp ruptures

8.4 is 6cp ruptures

7.2 for 5

[night delta]

yes if you pop an animacharged cp on one

[thorn crater]

everything has pandemic

just multiply the max duration with 0.3 and u can see the refresh timers

[timber meadow]

why do we want to sync vanish with deathmark?

[night delta]

most things*

I do believe shiv doesn't pandemic for example

[oblique jackal]

Does anyone have a weakaura just for the bleeds?

[thorn crater]

in my understanding all our spells do but i could be wrong

[upbeat mirage]

bigger garrotes

[thorn fjord]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[timber meadow]

oh improved garrote right

[keen spruce]

I haven't played retail in a hot minute, how impactful is race choice these days? wowhead is suggesting nelf, methodgg says darkiron. are we talkin fractional percentages or actual impact?

[spice spire]

Not that impactful

Sub 1% in most cases

[slim hamlet]

Pretty sure highmountain tauren is at least a 20% dps increase

[thorny pond]

okay, but what is sin %?

[spice spire]

[marsh wharf]

oh god i got a new pc and i just realized i have no addons set up and default ui has no timers on bleeds or poisons ._.

[oak sky]

You can transfer your ui and addons by saving your wtf and interface folders on your old pc

[zealous bobcat]

Plater works well for me

[oak sky]

Then flash drive them obet

Over

[gleaming geyser]

I like KUI for nameplates

[slim hamlet]

I used to use KUI

Then tried plater because KUI didn't work start of pre-patch

Trust me plater is extremely superior when you get used to using it

[marsh wharf]

yea i love plater

[spice spire]

You can also download a KUI plater pack

Where it’s just more customizable KUI

[marsh wharf]

gah i really didn't wana set up ui stuff right before launch lmao

[gleaming geyser]

i track my debuffs on tellmewhen and only really use nameplates for AoE

[slim hamlet]

Still got 3.5 hours

[marsh wharf]

yes but how am i supposed to procrastinate for that long

[slim hamlet]

Good question

[marsh wharf]

i might actually have to DO something other than stare at chat

[slim hamlet]

Because idk what that's supposed to mean

oh

yeah

[gleaming geyser]

procastinating your procastination

[slim hamlet]

smart

[marsh wharf]

peak procrastination

[small steppe]

hey all, i procrastinated and i'm just now looking at the new rotation and tree. how are you all liking the changes to the spec? i've been playing sin for so long that i'm intimidated to learn something slightly new 🤣

[night delta]

"ehhhh, I'l do nothing tomorrow"

[gleaming geyser]

thats how Ive been for the last week

[marsh wharf]

why do nothing tomorrow when you can do nothing today

[night delta]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[timber meadow]

do you just press exsanguinate on cd?

but not inside deathmark

[night delta]

yes, more info in #assassination-faq

[spice spire]

Ye but also ye

What spacetauren said

[split cipher]

Do we know if EoN is disabled in DF zones?

[night delta]

no info afaik

[timber meadow]

thanks - ill check out faq

[split cipher]

I'll just keep a replacement in bag today if case

[gleaming geyser]

whats EoN

[oak sky]

Edge of ngiht

Sylvanas dagger from sanctum

[night delta]

I mean, you won't run EoN in main hand anyway once you get anything 10-ish ilvl above

[oak sky]

Bonus shadow damage chance on finishers finishers

[slim hamlet]

it's the wow game director

[split cipher]

Yeah, just have a 304 mace I could use and I'm spring cleaning my bags

[gleaming geyser]

[night delta]

I'm doubtful it even passes as a good OH in the eventuality it still works at 70

[oak sky]

We will find out

[slim hamlet]

Yep that's the guy

[night delta]

we're gonna scale way higher, that damage proc will be way smaller comparatively

[oak sky]

Mace wont work for sin btw daggers only

[split cipher]

Ope I'm not in outlaw channel

[gleaming geyser]

[oak sky]

Lol

Ur good bro

[oblique tangle]

@balmy condor Did you forget a Rupture somewhere in here?

[night delta]

oops

[oak sky]

Press the exsang

[celest helm]

after er lol

[nocturne current]

Yeah after ER xD

[oak sky]

It doesnt have exsang selected

[slim hamlet]

I feel like exsang was banned when making the wowhead guide for rotation

[gleaming geyser]

the FAQ is all you need anyway

[night delta]

we should get a non-troll opener even if we troll by not picking exsang imo

[oblique tangle]

tsk tsk, someone remove their mod privs for this gross misjustice

[nocturne current]

SIN SECRET TECHNIQUES

[slim hamlet]

Saw this on reddit, so very important sin discussion

Which one you picking

[upbeat mirage]

Proto.

[night delta]

Oh definitely black drake

[upbeat mirage]

ez

[celest helm]

proto or drake

[night delta]

or black proto

[nocturne current]

Drake

[celest helm]

ptero looks awful so does wyv

[slim hamlet]

Was thinking wyvern or drake

[night delta]

Wyv is alright imo

[slim hamlet]

Ptero is just a no go

[night delta]

but not my mood

[red tinsel]

Drake or Wyvern, not sure

[celest helm]

i use protodrakes alot anyways so ill prob go drake for something new

[slim hamlet]

Same

Wyvern is the most special one

[celest helm]

trick question tho cuz we are gladiator gamers here

[slim hamlet]

Yep

[celest helm]

DF glad mount is so fucking nice imo

[slim hamlet]

Surely 🤓

[red tinsel]

Yeah the DK Protodrake they gave already is good enough, Drake is prob awesome for customization

and Wyvern is very unique from other mounts

[night delta]

meh, too blinged out for my tastes

(and also i'll never get gladiator anyway)

[slim hamlet]

Anyone knows if you can fly normally on those mounts in old content?

Or if they just become ground mount

[oak sky]

Ill get the raid mount for sure

[red tinsel]

About builds, anyone tried something without ER or Blindside?

[slim hamlet]

Yep that one's sick

Whispyr said no so no 🙂

[red tinsel]

For ER?

[slim hamlet]

For blindside mostly

There is not really anything special in class tree worth looking at imo

[night delta]

the alternative for ER is going SD

[red tinsel]

I think between ER, Blindside and Thistle I have one button too much.I wanted to cut one, and wonder if ER had another viable pick

[night delta]

and SD is... underwhelming, to say the least

[slim hamlet]

Can't even get SD by only cutting ER

[gleaming geyser]

ER is too important for exsang

so unless exsang goes I dont see ER going anywhere

[slim hamlet]

You can make blindside proc be an alt modifier for your mutilate

[red tinsel]

I actually miss passive SnD now

[slim hamlet]

if you don't use alt modifier

Works good for me

[night delta]

Yeah, you have to reroute through right highway instead of middle highway

[thorn crater]

er would still be strong without exsang

[night delta]

and forgo lethality 1

[thorn crater]

u get 4 7cp finishers

[timber meadow]

so deathmark is taking the place of vendetta?

[slim hamlet]

RIP 4% vers then

[thorn crater]

on a 45 sec cd

[red tinsel]

That's actually smart, how do you use it?

[slim hamlet]

• you lose incuperator or whatever it's called

[red tinsel]

I mean, what's your macro

[oak sky]

Recuperator

[slim hamlet]

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt] Ambush; Mutilate

[red tinsel]

Thanks

[slim hamlet]

Switch this with your mutilate button

[night delta]

Recuperator is really underwhelming

imo

[oak sky]

Its pretty good passive healing actually

[slim hamlet]

when holding alt it switches to ambush

[oak sky]

Its like a lot

[night delta]

you're gonna be pumped with HoTs so often though

[red tinsel]

it was buffed back up in PvP too

[red tinsel]

That actually already saved me one button! Huge

[slim hamlet]

Can't wait for sub masterrace in pvp like start of sl

[red tinsel]

Now I get to wonder where will I fit ER....

[slim hamlet]

Takes a bit of getting used to for me at least, but only 1 raid later it was muscle memory

[night delta]

I mean, recuperator is worth 1 lifebar every 200 seconds

[slim hamlet]

Same, had to make a whole new keybind for that fucker

[gleaming geyser]

how do you use alt mod for rotational keybinds? there aint no way that feel comfortable to me 😳

[night delta]

compare to leeching, it's damn small

[slim hamlet]

Use me thumb

[gleaming geyser]

thumb is for jump

[slim hamlet]

It's only like a cast every 10-15 sec tbh

not that rotational

[red tinsel]

One raid or a tier?

I had ER on the same button as Kingsbane, which was also the same button for SBS

SBS is prob going on the Poisoned Knife slot

[slim hamlet]

Oh yeah, forgot about the usual ADHD of melee gamers

[slim hamlet]

I mean like 1 raid

you know

2 hours

I learned by having my blindside proc weakaura big and nasty in my face

[celest helm]

Assass will be master race from current

[slim hamlet]

So I couldn't forget it

[red tinsel]

I wish we could use MB5 or MB4 as a modifier, without rebinding it to Alt

[red tinsel]

DHs are there

[slim hamlet]

Possibly

[celest helm]

Havoc dh will also be insane

[gleaming geyser]

right now you can have SBS on the same keybind as IC because the M+ build doesnt use it

if that helps

[slim hamlet]

Was just thinking back on the ER one shots

Since they reverted the nerf

[celest helm]

Er still hits like a noodle

It wont 1 shot anything

[red tinsel]

I left on the same button as CT

[timber meadow]

so basically we're just mantaining bleeds / using er+exang on cd and when no maintenance required we envenom to spend cp and then use vanish/deathmark on cd

[red tinsel]

I actually miscounted because I forgot Exsang... damn one button to find

[gleaming geyser]

I havnt played with thistle yet; is it on GCD?

[red tinsel]

So tell me, what's the synergy between ER and Exsang? To apply 7 CP Bleeds before exsang?

[marsh wharf]

the exsang/crimson tempest build feels extremely energy starved compared to the poison build with all the built in energy regen is that fine?

[slim hamlet]

This my current keybind situation

[red tinsel]

I hope not otherwise it's a dead talent

[gleaming geyser]

you can follow ER with 1pt rupture (7cp) then straight exsang

[slim hamlet]

With shift+4 being pvp trink and shift+z being pots

[celest helm]

It doesnt when you have multi bleeds

[red tinsel]

What's the poison build? I kinda wish we had something to use DTB

But I don't think you can have both DTB and Kingsbane together, can you?

[marsh wharf]

@celest helm so when you're multi targeting bleeds you mean?

[spice spire]

You cannot

[gleaming geyser]

you can but have you have to give up a lot

[spice spire]

No, numerically you can’t have DTB and kb together

[gleaming geyser]

oh, my bad

[marsh wharf]

the poison build feels good in prepatch with poison bomb and just putting ruptures on everything but i don't think it's as good at max

[red tinsel]

So Amp poison instead of Deadly, feels weird not having the Deadly Dot for the first time in forever

I'm hoping numerical difference would be lower between talents, and more builds show up with time

However not having DTB which is a sweet new talent feels bad. Kingsbane is pog though

[slim hamlet]

Does crit do anything for bleeds btw?

Like

[night delta]

ticks can crit

and that does crit dmg

[slim hamlet]

Yeah alright

[night delta]

and that's it

[slim hamlet]

And bleeds have intitial hit right?

[night delta]

yes and no

[slim hamlet]

just thinking about this for leveling

[night delta]

they immediately do 1 tick

[slim hamlet]

So first appliance

[night delta]

but that doesn not count as "initial damage"

[marsh wharf]

is everyone using this mythic plus build from the wowhead link in the pins?

[night delta]

so like, not affected by cold blood

[marsh wharf]

not sure how i feel about it tbh

[slim hamlet]

The IC+KB?

[oak sky]

I think a good start for leveling is sbs and shrouded

[verbal knot]

this with mfd > envenom

should do the job

[slim hamlet]

cba playing marked for death

even for leveling

[verbal knot]

the resets are good af

[oak sky]

Mfd is fine

[slim hamlet]

Yeah i know

[nocturne current]

MFD for leveling is for one thing

[slim hamlet]

But I only have a sicko weird keybind for it

[oak sky]

Ct is good too

[nocturne current]

Killing that low level DH doing the quest

[verbal knot]

im leveling as sub and i already have my mfd and skulkers ready for that dh

just press it when global is over

[lime crypt]

So I heard assa is really good in ST, I came here to learn B)

[verbal knot]

deathmark + pot

[umbral saffron]

You gotta change some of these, why is blind on 3

[slim hamlet]

Is there an easy way to find a special icon in this hell

No showtooltip doesn't work for this

[slim hamlet]

I usually use big aoe on 1-3 or just extra cds, but rogue aint got other than 1

4 and 5 is usually cc, but vanish is just always 5 for me

[umbral saffron]

LoL player keybinds where you use qwer?

[slim hamlet]

So it became 3 and 4 instead

[slim hamlet]

I use e+q and modifiers for main rotational spells yeah

and c

idk why c

but e and q is certainly the best thing i could find for not instantly making my hand hurt

[umbral saffron]

I use c for shadowstep, v for sprint, space for jump ofc cuz they are all movement which makes sense being used by my thumb 🤔

[verbal knot]

why dont you have any shift keybinds?

[alpine latch]

You stealth while leveling?

[slim hamlet]

I don't use my thumb for anything

besides spacebar and alt

[thorny pond]

yea, level sub

[alpine latch]

you're not my real dad

[thorny pond]

i am tho

nice color bro

[alpine latch]

Then you old af mang

[spice spire]

Bro I wish beachpatrol was my father

[alpine latch]

I'm built different

[spice spire]

Me too (worse)

[umbral saffron]

I pretty much use 1-6, ctrl 1-4 for utility, shift 1-4 for defensives, alt -14 for offensives - rest goes on qertfgcvxz\

[verbal knot]

can easily get like 10 extra keybinds if you get used to shift as well

[thorny pond]

I am adopting

[slim hamlet]

Oh i do

[verbal knot]

shift space or shift mouse 4/5 are free binds

[slim hamlet]

it's the second row

[verbal knot]

oh

[slim hamlet]

I just don't like having keybinds show there

idk why

im weird

[spice spire]

Omw my way!

[slim hamlet]

It gets explained

Right there

[alpine latch]

The warning comes after the spell, DoctorStrange

[slim hamlet]

besides it

[uncut echo]

E x s a n g

[night delta]

to get a pandemic'd 7cp rupture before exsang + DM

[slim hamlet]

[night delta]

and have giga bleeding

[thorny pond]

huge rupture

tear off the target's leg basically

[slim hamlet]

Huge

[thorny pond]

sever the artery

kill them dead

[balmy condor]

The rotation page is so bad oh my god

[thorny pond]

hi dad

[slim hamlet]

Yeah you suck whispyr

how dare you

Also goodmorning

[teal bloom]

[timber meadow]

rogue tc's always behind the times sigh

[oak sky]

No tear is feral

[timber meadow]

lol jk

yall are actually way ahead of most ime

[slim hamlet]

wtf is tc's

[timber meadow]

theory crafters

[slim hamlet]

Oh yeah