#assassination

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royal lantern
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destro locks during prepatch without the broken 4set OMEGAKEKW

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legit tank dmg

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all of them

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dont know how destro works, got only carried by the 4set

lofty junco
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tbh same here. the new feral "rework" looks great, and even balance looks good

but i played rogue since cata so I'm more leaned towards that

celest helm
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The spec you enjoy youll perform best on 99% of the time

marble hemlock
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10% is nothing. youre one of 12-14dps in the raid. the odds of you wiping the raid because the overall raid dps is 1% lower due to you playing a "wrong spec" are astronomically low

spice spire
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Feral looks to be in a good spot, which good for them.

royal lantern
verbal knot
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What im saying is based on what the top sub players are saying not from me.Even fuu said it on Max's recent tier list video and I doubt that fuu is anything less than very very knowledgable in the spec.

royal lantern
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fuu is VERY theoretical

eager sorrel
royal lantern
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not a bad thing btw

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but fuu just loves to go by raw numbers

oak sky
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Destro was getting free spenders

royal lantern
lofty junco
marble hemlock
royal lantern
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^

lofty junco
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at least DF seems to be a lot more alt friendly then SL

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i did raid with 7 different classes each week in MOP

eager sorrel
celest helm
royal lantern
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tier lists are a meme by default

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anyone that takes tier lists serious, needs to get checked

lofty junco
verbal knot
celest helm
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hunters are excluded as they are the reason you wipe no matter what spec

royal lantern
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survival was NEVER really bad

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like, often it was a really good spec

royal lantern
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🙂

eager sorrel
lofty junco
verbal knot
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At the end of the day it will all come down to what JPC plays so,thats about a good 90% of the rogue playerbase.

royal lantern
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in the first 2 weeks

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5-7

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in dont even play a single alt

eager sorrel
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Buddy, all we have to do is try really hard and we'll be top20!

royal lantern
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for a guild that wants 7/8

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what the fuck

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why is wow reddit stuff ALWAYS so cringe

eager sorrel
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He had it posted in r/competitivewow to and got absolutely roasted

spice spire
subtle tundra
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whats a jaypeepc

lofty junco
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yeah ok sure

royal lantern
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to many people think KFC is the voice of reason for rogue

torpid hinge
verbal knot
marble hemlock
royal lantern
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lmao

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and look how every tier ends

torpid hinge
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I’m a boomkin main and I’m prob not playing boomkin in 10.0

marble hemlock
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but im washed up now sad

lofty junco
spice spire
royal lantern
spice spire
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That was also before frost stuff tbf

marble hemlock
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better than an assa OTP writing outlaw guides?

verbal knot
royal lantern
marble hemlock
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actually right now im an arcana otp writing guides for a game i barely play

dense hamlet
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maybe they get a better makeover like dh in 11.0

marble hemlock
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i want arcana gameplay in wow

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thanks

royal lantern
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🙂

dense hamlet
spice spire
marble hemlock
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dude its so good

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its basically rogue, but cooler

spice spire
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I never had time for lost ark, I wish PepeHands

verbal knot
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i played a bit during the big hype and the 2 hour queue times but lost interest in it after a while

lofty junco
dense hamlet
lofty junco
marble hemlock
lofty junco
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u know what did let me miss my rogue the most?

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playing sith inquisitor assassin in swtor

verbal knot
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I want ffxiv ninja gameplay in wow

verbal knot
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my rogue needs to have shadow clone jutsu

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sub only please

spice spire
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MMO gamers Cheesin

lofty junco
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only if they don't copy ninjutsu

verbal knot
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cmon ninjutsus were fun

lofty junco
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i don't like pressing 3 buttons in 1.5 seconds

deft flicker
verbal knot
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you can legit combine them differently and get a different ability with each combo tell me thats not fun af

verbal knot
lofty junco
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yeah, but remembering all combos is not fun

verbal knot
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it becomes natural after a while,keybinds played a huge part too i remember me having them extremely close to wasd

deft flicker
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Either that or windwalker's SEF

lofty junco
dense hamlet
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wtf

verbal knot
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The closest thing to it that we had was something from legion but i cant remember what it was.It actually summoned a clone or some shit

lofty junco
spice spire
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Same

marble hemlock
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discussion is veering off a bit, so remember to keep it mostly to assa stuff here, or move to wowgen or OT for more general stuff

ebon root
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My milkshake keeps all the boys in the yard

marble hemlock
ebon root
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Lotta buttons to get used to after not playing for so long lol

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esp with stock UI, no WAs, etc, kinda overwhelming

verbal knot
subtle tundra
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base ui is based ui

prisma cypress
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isnt atrocity the one you gotta subscribe

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lol

verbal knot
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yeah

ebon root
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....someone share.... lol

thorn crater
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did he customize the blizz ui?

prisma cypress
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i switched back to blizz ui tbh

verbal knot
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its still really good and very optimized,also keeps getting updated every update including Liquids weak auras for raids and m+

prisma cypress
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im not sure how i feel about using weakauras for raid mechanics on top of dbm

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seems overkill

earnest imp
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just went to test around aoe dmg to prepatch, evoker did 70k i did 35k to a big murloc pack

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"ok"

ebon root
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Anyone have Atrocity's UI for sharing?

verbal knot
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the way he has it feels good,made sure he doesnt much shit on his screen

verbal knot
sinful cradle
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atrocity ui bis

verbal knot
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ui is about to be released for df in a couple of days if im not mistaken

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they are still working on the auras

thorn crater
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i need to lose the cast bars from the screen

prisma cypress
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i refuse to pay for some bozo's ui no matter how good it is

thorn crater
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but i cant yet im not used to it sigh

ebon root
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prime sub up in a day

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xD

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Ooo, can edit wow UI easily now?!? this is dope

deft flicker
prisma cypress
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is that a prime benefit?

verbal knot
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lol

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same thing w raidbots

prisma cypress
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if i need to pay for a twitch sub, i consider that paying

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buying

marble hemlock
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@subtle tundra how do we get master poisoner into the m+ tree

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guess we just drop tight spenders

lofty junco
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btw how big of a dps lose is not using exsang theoretical?

verbal knot
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i swear i must be the only person that likes this ability

deft flicker
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Absolute numbers do change with gear, but relative benefit stays the same

verbal knot
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exsang too good not to take

subtle tundra
lofty junco
subtle tundra
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it says its bad design

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not that its bad dps

verbal knot
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STOP THE COPIUM JUST PLAY IT

marble hemlock
lofty junco
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but like@marble hemlock said. play what is fun.

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exsang doesn't sound like fun

verbal knot
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it makes the spec less sleepge , thats fun if you ask me

prisma cypress
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the question isn't how much of a loss it is to drop exsang, it's how much of a loss it is to just cast it on cooldown without trying to min-max it

keen plaza
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sorry i dont know if its answered but in raid talent build is it worth to remove Improved poisons 1 point and add it to Exsanguite?

dapper wraith
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I wish they would just put exang on a 60s cd and bump it's increase to 125% or something.

thorn crater
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@marble hemlock would this work?

subtle tundra
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LOL

ebon root
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Any idea how to get rid of this?

subtle tundra
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2 min sprint and no cheat death

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now that is cursed

thorn crater
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thjere is gonna be an evoker in every group 😛

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so its not gonna be 2 mins

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lol

subtle tundra
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yea 1.9 minutes

deft flicker
subtle tundra
marble hemlock
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alternatively, type /run if WeeklyRewardsFrame and WeeklyRewardsFrame:IsVisible() then HideUIPanel(WeeklyRewardsFrame) else WeeklyRewardsFrame:Show()endin chat

ebon root
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ty

granite widget
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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like, REALLY sucks

subtle kiln
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I can send you the tga file if you want a happier exsang WA.

royal lantern
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exsang sucks

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people that say its allright should feel bad

subtle kiln
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maybe kitteh exsang uwu

royal lantern
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cus they spread lies

subtle tundra
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i hate it here

subtle kiln
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i’m legit indifferent to it. it changes the playstyle so let’s go. maybe 10.1 tier favors different talents.

marble hemlock
bold drum
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what happened to this channel

subtle kiln
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i’m just trying to spread some cheer

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since apparently I like nothing in this game.

marble hemlock
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exsangery is getting defiled

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the only exsang emote that we need

royal lantern
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B I G

subtle kiln
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can only be angry for so long

bold drum
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feels like every second message in this channel is about exsang

subtle kiln
royal lantern
bold drum
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but if people dont wanna play it why doees

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exist

royal lantern
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because 70%of people in this channel are shitposters kekdog

marble hemlock
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because people are losing their minds

subtle kiln
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people wouldn’t care nearly as much but are looking to complain since there are “too many buttons” “spec is too fast” it’s clearly exsangs fault

subtle tundra
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i am the sanest mf i know

royal lantern
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exsang is hated since it exists

subtle kiln
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it just happens to be the easiest target to pile on

royal lantern
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the ability should have never left legion

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yet here we are

subtle kiln
near valley
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exswangwuinate doesn't deserve this slander

subtle kiln
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if whispyr said he liked exsang, big doubt people as angry in here about it.

bold drum
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and people call outlaw players weird starege

near valley
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so ur saying all we have to do is convert whispyr

subtle kiln
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that won’t happen

bold drum
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i was gonna say

bold drum
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he is committed

subtle tundra
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i like exsang

royal lantern
prisma cypress
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if exsang is our biggest problem then we're in pretty good shape

subtle kiln
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and yes i thinks there is room for improvement with the talent, but looking at the spec overall it’s hardly doomsday worthy.

prisma cypress
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i also don't believe that mashing exsang on cooldown is a 7-8% dps loss

eager sorrel
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Unironically if they just capped the amount of bleed that was exsanged to a full bleed duration it becomes a lot less awkward to play

near valley
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try not pressing it then

royal lantern
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jesus christ scath, you just love to talk around the problems with it

prisma cypress
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the talent itself can't be worth that much even when played optimally, can it?

subtle kiln
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I don’t have a problem with it

royal lantern
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nobody says assa is bad, or that the spec overall is bad

subtle tundra
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exangenged

subtle kiln
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what am I talking around?

subtle kiln
near valley
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omg @gusty mirage has an orange name now

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doomsday

thorn crater
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dankest timeline

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we in the dark ages

near valley
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the bad ending

royal lantern
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literally the only complaint is "exsang plays really bad, goes against most things that you normaly play around, makes no sense with its mechanics and is clunky af with its CD and the way we use it, because its supposed to be a burst ability that is not even used for burst"

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everyone with half a braincell knows that assa overall looks really good for df

near valley
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tbf my transmog for my ass rogue looks good

prisma cypress
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it makes sense, it just clashes with the spec mechanics

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lol

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exsang is a cool idea, bleeding out your target quickly

royal lantern
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the "Bleed out faster for fast dmg" part is not why it sees play at all

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its litearlly because it generates more bleed dmg over a fight

subtle kiln
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play bad: opinion
goes against whatever: it’s changing the gameplay. what a talent should do.
assa has been a 2min burst class for how long? it’s more interesting than having a passive in its place.

near valley
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idk i'm pretty sure all dot classes had a do ur dots faster button or something

royal lantern
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nice burst ability btw, we ignore the burst part

near valley
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but don't quote me cause i used up half my braincell

night delta
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2 min CD exsang when

subtle kiln
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you’re not a 45 sec burst spec. lol

prisma cypress
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we use it because it does more damage during a fight? i had no idea

subtle kiln
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hell sub isn’t a 30 second burst spec.

eager sorrel
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*finger curls

Exsang wasnt being used for its intended purpose of burst damage, so we are moving damage out of bleeds and into envenom.

Bleed damage nerfed 42.38%, envenom damage buffed 12%

gilded seal
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what if exsang worked like our 4pc in shadowlands. Target gets a 20 sec debuff where you rupture and garotte tick out 100% faster, normal refresh ruesl apply during that time and there isnt any overhang or wonky snapshot shenaneggins

prisma cypress
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sounds like deathmark

near valley
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^

night delta
marble hemlock
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what about removing exsanguinate

near valley
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nah

royal lantern
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reminds me of guy talking for 5min about his insane assa tier set idea, and then he just explained lethal dose

near valley
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can't be a solution

gilded seal
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I mean thats what exsang effectively does now, if you max pandemic with an anima charge CP your looking at a 20 sec rupture that ticks twice as fast

dapper wraith
marble hemlock
near valley
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i mean exsang could work like plaguebringer if that's an idea

subtle kiln
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the spec has gotten pretty much what everyone asked for from Realz and team. why do they want it in still?

marble hemlock
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exsang could just stop existing and if we didnt do less damage due to a buff making up for it, no one would miss it

royal lantern
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people asked for exsang to be removed the entire beta mate lol

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even before that

gilded seal
royal lantern
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the ability was a "why does it exist? nobody wants it, its clunky and should be removed" since LEGION days

subtle kiln
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pretty much everything. it’s still here for a reason. why do they want it

marble hemlock
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its unintuitive as fuck for an abilities DPS gain to not come from the cast it actually affects, but what you can get in after the fact

prisma cypress
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well it does boost your dps for the duration

royal lantern
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allright, honest question for the bigbrains here: what do you actually LIKE about that trainwreck of an ability?

royal lantern
near valley
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exsang really do be the biggest rift between ass players

royal lantern
prisma cypress
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well it does, the bleeds tick faster

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lol

royal lantern
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ye, you probs do like 200dps more

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big gain

gilded seal
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I'm not disagreeing that its unintuitive and a jank ass ability, but I dont see it being changed anytime soon so im just curious what alternatives could be?

near valley
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i mean seeing as it is a fairly big dps loss not to press it

prisma cypress
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i get what you're saying about getting more unbuffed ticks in later, but exsanguinate still buffs the dps of your bleeds, just not the damage per energy

gilded seal
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I dont see them straight up getting rid of it either

marble hemlock
marble hemlock
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because after those 20sec are over youll refresh it with a lowdamage bleed

prisma cypress
marble hemlock
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which is the only actual dps gain you get

gilded seal
prisma cypress
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you're able to put more of your energy into a high DPE ability

marble hemlock
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(only ofc it'd be its own trigger, not caused by vanish)

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wanna know what you do when you exsanguinate someone? you open their veins to bleed them out. one might even say, you rip their veins.

opaque sigil
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Flourish looks like a perfect exsang mechanic if I’m not missing anything

near valley
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i want exsang to stay the way it is

marble hemlock
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why?

royal lantern
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and i want a fluffy BF, cant get everything

marble hemlock
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theres like

near valley
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it's like half the topic of conversation for this channel on a daily basis arthaskek

marble hemlock
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half a dozen reasons to not have it be the way it is

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whats the reason for having it

royal lantern
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thats what im asking all the time

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why are people defending the ability, what do you like about it

near valley
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without it we'd run out of things to talk about

royal lantern
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there are multiple reasons why its not liked/hated, but everytime people just say "uh, its good, you are just a hater xd"

near valley
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exsang brings us all together exs_uwu

prisma cypress
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exsanguinate is cool the way it is if you think about your bleeds conceptually as abilities that deal a certain amount of damage and not just maintenance debuffs

wary ice
prisma cypress
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from that perspective the duration and snapshotting stuff makes sense

marble hemlock
near valley
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was 1 min b4 tbf

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also most some trinkets are 1 min 30 sec

marble hemlock
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it was never 1min

near valley
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it wasn't?

near valley
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what was its cd b4 then

gilded seal
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the only decent thing it syncs with if you happen to take it is ER

marble hemlock
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it used to be 400% faster, then 100%, then 80%, then 100% again, then 125%, then 100%, then 150%, then 100%

wary ice
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The value of compressing empowered bleeds is lost because we don't have things to sync it with

marble hemlock
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it was always 45sec cd

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the initial design, before it got reworked to exsanguinate, was this

royal lantern
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its only use rn is

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cus the bleeds run out faster, we can apply new bleeds, and they do dmg

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aka you do more bleeds over a fight

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the "burst" ability is not used for burst

near valley
wary ice
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I think youre thinking ic

near valley
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yeah i think so

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headass said exsanguinate with confidence kekW

smoky sandal
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Do legendaries stop working day 1 of DF?

wary ice
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I think they said like 64? Was the cut off

smoky sandal
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Is there any point for me to make asssassin legrndaries at this point? Prob not right

near valley
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i thought it was as soon as u leave to the dragon isles that leggos stop

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but i've recently been wrong for the first time so i need verification

severe shuttle
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legendaries don't work outside of shadowlands already

smoky sandal
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Heh I want to start playing with sin before DF just wondering if any of the leggoes needed but seems like prob not

subtle tundra
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tthey should make exsang something whack like 1min 15 sec cd

severe shuttle
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nah fuck a leggo at this point

subtle tundra
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it would be hilarious

royal lantern
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ups, wrong comment

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i mean @smoky sandal

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dont waste your gold, its 5days

near valley
severe shuttle
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my business is my own sir

gusty mirage
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valid point

solid mica
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Ez ring unity

meager granite
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Wait oxi orange

thorn fjord
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Gratz dood

burnt star
gusty mirage
solid mica
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Where'd you bury whisp

thorny pond
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Climbing that corporate ladder

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Think it can go on your resume at this point

gusty mirage
thorny pond
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ok

solid mica
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Hell yeah

thorny pond
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slowmode us you coward

gusty mirage
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you want me to?

subtle tundra
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can i say bad words to you

gusty mirage
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I'd have to give immunity to varas

thorny pond
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Limit my toxicity harder daddy

gusty mirage
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so he can dunk on everyone

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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uh, do gooder dps baddie

gusty mirage
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damn

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that hurts cause its true

subtle tundra
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delete outlaw

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BUFF EXSANG

gusty mirage
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this man just spitting truth

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and you want me to slow mode it?

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smh

thorny pond
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He's a discord Mod, not Ion's back pocket programmer

gusty mirage
near valley
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gotta limit all the facts Varas be spitting

gusty mirage
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don't tell anyone

thorny pond
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Legally speaking

near valley
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need time to process it

thorny pond
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You still couldn't implement outlaw deletion

gusty mirage
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legally speaking

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the word "outlaw" goes against my way of life

subtle tundra
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21 days left until i can play m+ on live

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and its gonna be raging

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shiv holding gaming

gusty mirage
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nah nah 2 charges now

subtle tundra
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🛏️

gusty mirage
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copege

near valley
gusty mirage
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no

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only if you get caught

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so don't get caught

thorny pond
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bring an outlaw to derage

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or a fucking MM hunter kekw

subtle tundra
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get out

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we have outlaws here

gusty mirage
near valley
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imagine affixes affecting u

subtle tundra
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get a feral tbh

near valley
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brought to u by tank gang

thorny pond
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gimp a feral is all I read

gusty mirage
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hey mr. beach what does DN stand for? PAUSE

thorny pond
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dunno

near valley
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Diamond Neil

thorny pond
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There's only so much toxicity in my life now. I am a father, to an actual child and not man-children. I have to behave myself and spread sin positivity

near valley
thorny pond
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What's hava?

near valley
thorny pond
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have a nice day!

near valley
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i've been bamboozled

thorny pond
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Oxi is short for Oxytocin because he makes me feel good

slim hamlet
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Oxi upgraded to orange name

spice spire
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Yeah he’s been promoted to deal with me peepoGiggles

slim hamlet
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Another name to @ instead of using google

spice spire
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Imagine a worse hell

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I can’t WideGeorgeHappy

slim hamlet
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Beautiful

sturdy merlin
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Hey @gusty mirage congrats on the orange name

slow marsh
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Hi @gusty mirage i'm happy for you. Been a long time coming 🥳

spice spire
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Toxic

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You never got your shit btw. You know how I know? I got it return mail style, like 10 days ago.
Was pretty sick WICKED

fading wigeon
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Congrats oxi

steel wind
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2nd sylv dagger, better late than never I guess ? 🤷‍♂️

spice spire
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Very last second kekdog

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Congrats tho

sharp falcon
signal pier
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that dagger needs to be deleted from the game files

spice spire
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No man

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Was sick

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Also Realz, it’s nearing the end, are you happy release is near? Or is the blue turtle shell waiting?

next edge
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oh nonono

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Outlaw is not fun anymore

spice spire
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I summoned the reckoning monkaW

next edge
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@royal lantern in shambles

near valley
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dh nerfs pog

subtle tundra
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Surely outlaw don't have 20 different builds available

near valley
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also outlaw abuse SAD

subtle tundra
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And dB nerf is whatever

near valley
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a very meh nerf to outlaw all around

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pretty much DB and dispatch aren't being used much anyhow i believe

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so not sure where the nerf is coming from

frosty flame
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for ST and no Dragon-Tempered blades, should i use deadly poison or amplifying poison?

subtle tundra
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No dude you get Amp so you don't use it

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It's a travel point to get pb

woven bane
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just waiting to read this tbh

frosty flame
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i see i see

frosty flame
spice spire
near valley
minor anchor
earnest imp
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what kind of numbers are you guys managing in m+ on prepatch vs other classes?

woven bane
earnest imp
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with what we have now

slow marsh
bold drum
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hello, outlaw is in kind of a panic spot rn where do i sign up as exsang enjoyer 🙂

meager granite
spice spire
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Outlaw is fine

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Play what you wish 🙂

tacit oar
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Better play sub

bold drum
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ik it is and will be

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im just joking

spice spire
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I know

bold drum
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sub on the other hand does sound quite good

next edge
spice spire
bold drum
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everyone is a ho enjoyer

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is just so fun to play

near valley
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outlaw is still aight

next edge
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Sub with 1 dance looks rly cool tbh

bold drum
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ill just chill here or in sub until outlaw calmed down

night delta
near valley
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HO is pretty fun nfl

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ngl*

willow vine
#

Haven't logged in in weeks

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Sin seems fun with carnage buff

slim hamlet
#

it is

next edge
#

Its time for Sin to get insulted on yellow channel soon

#

you'll see

spice spire
#

It’s already been happening

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It is what it is, im just watching to make sure no one else goes completely out of pocket

near valley
peak bobcat
#

We are so blessed to have a dev that listens to feedback

next edge
#

honestly

peak bobcat
#

And then when nerfs happen it’s just a constant doomer shitpost fest

next edge
#

I feel really bad for Guy

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and others

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who love outlaw

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and have to share channel

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with such human beings

peak bobcat
#

Outlaw channel has been cringe since the beginning of time

midnight mist
tacit oar
#

With less than 200 dps diff between kingbane and Dtb isn't it more efficient to play dtb since dtb is easier to play than kb so you'll lose more than 200 dps if you don't play kb perfectly anyways ?

spice spire
#

All channels are cringe Tbf.
It’s about not fucking dehumanizing a dev that’s trying to listen to you because you don’t like a change. I don’t care if people are mad; being mad is fine. But lashing out and throwing a tantrum is just despairge

So far it’s been pretty calm outside of a few wackadoos

peak bobcat
#

This has been the happiest I’ve ever been going into an expansion, and for once I have faith that the problems with rogue are being fixed because we have a good line of communication with someone who cares

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the constant updates and information on why changes happen is really nice

spice spire
#

Good, it’s not going to be perfect by any means. But realz has done a decent job. We could get nerfed on our st tomorrow and I’d say the same thing.

But he also never answered my blue shell question so I’m nervous monkaW

peak bobcat
#

Sin could probably get toned down by 2%

midnight mist
#

you forgot a 0

copper hazel
spice spire
peak bobcat
#

I don’t think it’s that far ahead

spice spire
#

Et tu brute?

copper hazel
#

hes trying to shift the meltdown from OL channel

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avert it

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swerveeee

dark token
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
midnight mist
#

or some language I do not understand

copper hazel
spice spire
#

No that’s Latin buddy

midnight mist
#

about the same

oak sky
#

E tu

midnight mist
#

bit old tho

spice spire
#

How u gonna speak a romantic language but not know the basis for it SMH

tacit oar
#

Bonsoir le baguette

midnight mist
spice spire
#

Get woke buddy peepoGiggles

midnight mist
#

thats true

spice spire
#

But that’s fair tbh

oak sky
copper hazel
midnight mist
#

I dont like when outlaw chat is so fast like that, cant read it

#

so I will chill here a bit

spice spire
#

Skip having measured takes, the channel is turning the corner yejoice

midnight mist
#

seem rather calm tonight

tacit oar
#

I'll ask my question tomorrow when chats will calm down

near valley
#

why spoil the suprise

spice spire
#

Yeah, oxi has claimed residency here, so all of a sudden people clamming peepoGiggles

But yeah, outlaw is monkaW

I’m just watching to make sure we’re good

near valley
spice spire
#

High apm spec high apm chat

bold drum
next edge
#

Nerf sin

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we all go Sub

spice spire
#

I’ll remain here

bold drum
#

no dont nerf assa starege i need options

near valley
#

buff exsanguinate

bold drum
#

only having one viable spec is even less fun

tacit oar
#

Atleast we have a lot of builds on assa with less than 0.5% diff

#

for now

bold drum
tacit oar
#

But yeah. Don't gotta bother playing kb for 200 more dps that I'll probably lose because of bad play next to a chill dtb pepe_chad

drifting light
#

Chill dtb homie

near valley
#

DTB enjoyers pog

tacit oar
#

Dtb is the best talent ever made

little ivy
#

I wanna play dtb, but I’m playing kb like a fool

bold drum
#

dtb is quite nice though i never got a chance to play the og kingsbane so ill check it out on prog

next edge
#

I think KB isbetter

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despite sims close

oak sky
#

Dtb was 5% like yesterday with no venom rush no lightweight shiv

tacit oar
#

Like I said KB add a lot of complexity to the rotation for 200 more dps on perfect play, idk if this is worth for adding such complexity

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tacit oar
#

Yeah 0,3%

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Less than race bonuses

oak sky
#

How does kb add complexity

#

?

bold drum
#

its a new button

oak sky
#

Its like

#

1 global a minute

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Then you play normal

tacit oar
#

New button to press on a spec already bloated with buttons

bold drum
#

and we all know button = difficulty

shadow sequoia
#

Hi guys

tacit oar
#

And I think you use shiv differently

slim hamlet
#

I mean its a bit more than a button

shadow sequoia
#

I think I might play assassination on Dragonflight, so you will be seeing me more in this channel

slim hamlet
#

Wanna get bleeds for full duration 0 envenom before

oak sky
slim hamlet
#

Wanna save and use shivs inside

#

Certainly more than just click it

tacit oar
#

Like aurhora said

oak sky
#

Uh

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But you dont really do that

#

Everything applies poisons, only envenom uptime matters

bold drum
#

dtb just does its job whereas kb is sth you actively need to think about

slim hamlet
#

The initial apply of garrote/rup doesnt right?

slim hamlet
#

only the ticks

next edge
night delta
next edge
#

press KB, press shiv

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complexity

night delta
#

envenom uptime gonna be 100% anyway unless you mess up

shadow sequoia
#

Someone go live on twitch... I wanna watch some assassination content

slim hamlet
#

I'm not saying it's hard to use KB guys, but can't say that it does nothing

tacit oar
little ivy
#

Wait a week bro

oak sky
slim hamlet
#

I'm like 99% sure the bleeds does

next edge
#

Same time

slim hamlet
#

Remember Whispyr talking about it being important or some shit

next edge
#

KB helps a lot

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on priority targets

oak sky
#

@marble hemlock isnt that old vw theyre talking about

next edge
#

where you might need an extra burst

marble hemlock
shadow sequoia
#

@marble hemlock Go live on twitch

oak sky
#

The bleeds ticks applying poisons

marble hemlock
#

brother in christ, i havent streamed in like 4months

oak sky
#

Isnt that an old thing

marble hemlock
#

bleed ticks dont apply poisons WeirdDude

shadow sequoia
#

Good we're excited for ur streams @marble hemlock

oak sky
#

Yeah thats what i thought

marble hemlock
#

never did

#

since theyre not "hits"

night delta
slim hamlet
#

The 1% privails

flint tusk
#

4 months overdue then

slim hamlet
#

Well then it's just a button xd

oak sky
#

But yeah since everything we press can basically apply poisons only envenom uptime and pressing shiv matters

next edge
#

This guy was doing the same yesterday with zac

#

super cringe

empty hinge
marble hemlock
#

what we did have, was that venomous wounds would deal some nature damage everytime a bleed dealt damage to a poisoned enemy, and that damage scaled with mastery

oak sky
#

Kingsbane is mostly a cd stacking thing which can be sort of fun

little ivy
#

Who else is playing 2 rogues one KB one DTB for immersion

tacit oar
#

So we just press both shiv on kb windows and that's all ?

next edge
#

I mean DTB is really good if only 1 rogue right?

shadow sequoia
#

Bro my message is gone

oak sky
next edge
#

coz you can go double big poisons 😄

slim hamlet
tacit oar
#

K

#

Thx

marble hemlock
slim hamlet
#

Don't remember if you use first before or after castin kb tho

tacit oar
#

Thought it was more complex than that

oak sky
#

Its not

slim hamlet
#

I still really like KB

tacit oar
#

With both we have enough to cover kb even if we press before

night delta
oak sky
#

Having played it I think the cd stacking aspect feels ok, but it really is largely passive damage

shadow sequoia
#

I keep scrolling down the wow category on twitch, literally can't find a decent rogue

slim hamlet
#

Even if its just pressing buttons on gcd inside, it feels like I'm squezing everything out of the button

slim hamlet
night delta
#

so most likely first shiv 1 GCD before KB

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for the apply hit

slim hamlet
#

Yeah what I've been doing

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most intuitive for me

little ivy
#

I shiv after it feels right

flint tusk
#

but doing shiv after you miss out on the damage buff on the initial kingsbane hit no?

midnight mist
near valley
#

bruh 10 min slowmode is actually my bane

oak sky
#

Sapzilla 2

shadow sequoia
#

Guys for outlaw we go crit/vers, what about for assassination what do u guys usually focus on in terms of stats?

next edge
# midnight mist ?

Wasn't he the same guy who was posting your stream like 10 milion times

slim hamlet
next edge
#

1 or 2 days ago?

slim hamlet
#

Prob a pretty decent diff to use it before then

midnight mist
oak sky
#

Yo outlaws that are moving over here try not to go too crazy aight

night delta
#

maybe a dash of haste

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but not much

subtle tundra
shadow sequoia
#

They're destroying outlaw i'm switching to assasination

next edge
next edge
#

sorry Varas

spice spire
#

I’m gonna (shit)post in zac’s stream Cheesin

oak sky
subtle tundra
#

Yea go watch outlaw streams losers

shadow sequoia
marble hemlock
night delta
#

so you definitely want some

oak sky
#

Guess it really is goof

empty hinge
#

@marble hemlock where’s nova

oak sky
night delta
#

but not much more than what you'll get without forcing it

marble hemlock
empty hinge
#

Pog I’ll check in a bit

marble hemlock
#

also friendly reminder, if one spec channel went into slowmode due to shitposting, that does not mean that you should join another spec channel to continue shitposting. it means to just stop shitposting. 😄

near valley
#

man some people really go out of control when they see a nerf

shadow sequoia
celest helm
oak sky
#

Just stop talking about outlaw nerfs here for now

oak sky
#

Its gonna make more people talk about it

shadow sequoia
little ivy
slim hamlet
little ivy
#

You do shiv before kingsbane I was mistake

slim hamlet
#

I am too a mistake

oak sky
#

Sims were conflicted on that, not sure how it ended up

slim hamlet
#

oh

neat plank
#

why are there sparkles on this portal? i don't have any quests

celest helm
#

ofc you would shiv before

marble hemlock
# shadow sequoia They already started the nerfs train.. check last patch notes

its called tuning. whether or not this particular set of changes was a good idea will have to be seen, it may not be. doesnt mean the spec is dead or unplayable or whatever. doesnt mean there wont be other changes to make up for them. doesnt mean blizzard wont finally realize that outlaw should just get removed, along with exsanguinate.

near valley
little ivy
#

I didn’t notice a difference gcd before or after, but im probably just bad Sadge

oak sky
#

Yeah its probably not a very big difference

near valley
oak sky
#

Since it modifies the early ticks

near valley
#

a bit of cope with that one but u never know

celest helm
rapid tree
#

so theoretically, if a person was to not run exsanguinate and take the 7-8% loss of dps......what would they spec in to?

oak sky
#

Tiny toxic blade iirc

subtle tundra
#

Ttb

peak bobcat
#

7-8%

#

🧢

spice spire
#

It’s like a solid 6% iirc

night delta
#

I'm still baffled btw, that taking exsang and using it in the most degen way is a 7% dps increase

#

for how early it is on the tree

near valley
#

i am more than happy that is the case

grim breach
#

Vote exang for capstone lol

near valley
#

converts more people to see the light

#

the glory of exsanguinate

#

the very gospel itself

drifting light
#

I dont mind having 1 degen keybind like exsang, but I hate having to pick exsang + er + sbs

spice spire
#

Sbs isn’t degen smadge

peak bobcat
#

more impactful buttons is good

drifting light
#

Sbs withou unity yikes

rapid tree
#

not when they are all CDs

spice spire
#

Unreal

twin kite
#

SBS was the most fun covenant ability tbh

near valley
midnight atlas
near valley
#

also i wish i was allowed to pick sepsis SAD

spice spire
#

Also I have to go back to work, I’ve been trying to help deal with outlaw for too long

neat plank
spice spire
#

Be good, children

spice spire
celest helm
#

Stepsis is such an unfun ability but id rather play it than exang

bronze pike
#

Gl at work

midnight atlas
#

try turning that setting to good, those sparkles should dissapear. other than that idk what causes them

neat plank
#

yeah you were right, thats crazy ;>

oak sky
#

Crazy how outlaw got echoing blades

solid mica
#

Hm?

shadow sequoia
#

Guys the rotation is not written as how it's supposed to be written, where can i find the actual rotation spell by spell?

slim hamlet
#

when df guide comes up

cinder scaffold
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
shadow sequoia
#

I was on wowhead it's like tips not the actual rotation

#

Like idk which order of spells I should be casting

slim hamlet
#

?

copper hazel
balmy condor
teal bloom
shadow sequoia
balmy condor
#

Is this not clear enough?

celest helm
#

outlaw rogues really are helpless

balmy condor
#

There’s an entire page

#

Dedicated to nothing but rotation

near valley
#

instructions unclear

celest helm
#

blade flurry melted their brains

near valley
#

uninstalled game

midnight atlas
#

too much apm and brrr pistol shots ruins cognition

slim hamlet
#

brr pistol is cool

celest helm
#

"so wait your rotation changes from ST to AOE? WTF"

near valley
shadow sequoia
#

Guys don't be jealous of outlaws, it's a nice piraty spec not gonna lie

balmy condor
slim hamlet
spice spire
#

Embrace your fellow rogue, reject warlocks

balmy condor
spice spire
midnight atlas
near valley
slim hamlet
slim hamlet
#

in shadowlands it was like 28 apm at one point

midnight atlas
near valley
#

survival is as high apm as it gets

slim hamlet
#

One way to kill your wrists instantly

near valley
#

i swear some specs have given me carpal tunnel

midnight atlas
#

i wonder why they didnt add hold to cast to melee abilities as well, like they did with spells

near valley
#

looking at you obliterate

midnight atlas
#

still have to spam button while mr mage keeps one key pressed down

near valley
teal bloom
#

I was in a guild for a while where the raid leader constantly complained about melee dps players being shit while she was playing bm hunter peepostudy

royal lantern
#

people complain about the weirdest stuff

#

but BM hunter is 1of the best things to play as a RL tbh

oak sky
#

Bm is a melee that stands in range

midnight atlas
#

bm is that spec that you recommend to your grandma to level faster

#

rogues could have a great ranged spec with combo points builder-finisher design

#

mm hunters are boring af

near valley
#

ranged rogue sounds like MM with combo points

midnight atlas
#

but no casting of aimed shot and that

near valley
#

unless u throw knives instead of using a bow

midnight atlas
#

like mm hunter but better

teal bloom
#

Ranged rogue spec could be cool as long as it's not a pirate wielding pistol

near valley
#

then we are talking

shrewd night
#

But if its pistol it would still be evoker range, and those peeps aint even ranged.

near valley
#

obviously it should be shurikens being thrown

spice spire
strange python
#

it's always confused me that apparently I can hiff a dagger with more precision at range than shoot something...

midnight atlas
#

40yard shuriken/knife throw ranged rogue spec

#

shadow, poison whatever

blazing totem
#

MoP throw shuriken making us ranged flashbacks

flint tusk
#

gief ranked autoattack back 😦

near valley
#

in fact go all naruto with it

#

spend ur combo poins to use fireball jutsu

shrewd night
midnight atlas
#

special skill - hit your own shuriken to hit people behind los

near valley
dark token
near valley
#

lmao

midnight atlas
#

bleach? i dont know if troll or not

near valley
#

neither do i

shrewd night
#

I dont mind exsang, I just like other shit better.

near valley
#

was scared to ask

shrewd night
dark token
#

The best trolls are where you are unsure

#

Oh I actually thought this was off topic lmao

near valley
#

anime is always on topic

shrewd night
#

Test me.

teal bloom
dense yoke
#

hehe more outlaw nerf

gusty mirage
near valley
spice spire
#

Do not test him

near valley
#

i've seen what Koffings can do

spice spire
#

He will mute without warning

near valley
#

all fun and games till they self-destruct

drifting cloud
gusty mirage
#

try now

spice spire
oak sky
#

:exs_uwu:

gusty mirage
#

that one can stay

near valley
dark token
near valley
#

we can't have nice things with oxi around SAD

oak sky
#

Oxi can you use your new powers to love me

gusty mirage
#

it was an emote

dark token
#

Worst shadowblade ever

gusty mirage
#

yeah, and your opinion is relevant to me

midnight mist
#

Wtf oxi

royal lantern
#

oxi is not cute anymore

gusty mirage
royal lantern
gusty mirage
earnest remnant
shrewd night
midnight mist
#

Oxi ego is too high now that he is orange man, SucksMan

#

Sad to see

gusty mirage
near valley
#

oxi's team probs lost in the world cup

midnight mist
#

Power corrupt

near valley
#

that's why we are getting this corruption

gusty mirage
#

😦

dark token
#

Japan beat germany so we need uwu emotes

gusty mirage
#

I'll readd it

midnight mist
gusty mirage
#

it's back

midnight mist
#

But the uwu exsang thing was the only sin emote I liked tbf

royal lantern
near valley
#

Saudi Arabia beating argentina got me laughing

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Literally the best one still

gusty mirage
#

kthx

midnight mist
#

Btw oxi cool name color, we now are more closely matching color 🥵

gusty mirage
#

I took the position so I could be closer to my idol, zac

oak sky
#

Is lebanon in the world cul

#

Cup

midnight mist
#

World cul omegalul

near valley
#

if i beat oxi in a 1v1 do i get to take his orange color thinkBaguette

oak sky
#

Because you surely arent for team usa right

gusty mirage
#

I'm for team take that shit to the appropriate place

oak sky
gusty mirage
#

then do it in off topic

oak sky
#

Ok

shadow sequoia
#

Guys I can't chat on outlaw channel can someone help me

midnight mist
#

Yea only sin talk here exsangery

near valley
#

bruh i cant

gusty mirage
spice spire
shadow sequoia
#

WTF turn that off

near valley
spice spire
#

Probably will be soon since it calmed down

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Slow mode doesn’t happen unless people fuck up

#

So

near valley
#

bruh really told you to turn it off

pure moth
gusty mirage
near valley
#

he's not even shadowblade, he is Shadows

oak sky
#

Put slow mode on in here

shadow sequoia
#

Outlaw is my favorite channel

oak sky
#

Fuck the proletariat

gusty mirage
#

I don't care

gusty mirage
near valley
midnight mist
#

Sin channel need permanent slow mode

gusty mirage
#

Sin needs perma no chat perms

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

only zac can post in here

#

no one else

midnight mist
flint tusk
#

plz let me download Whispyr's pinned posts before you sudoku the channel.

near valley
gusty mirage
#

KEKL I'm not sudokuing it dw

spice spire
#

He’s clearly not doing it

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

He’s memeing

midnight mist
spice spire
#

Brother?