assassination

[royal lantern]

its weird af

[plain jewel]

Can you not silence multiple enemies with garrote if u picked improved garrote talent? It's not working in old world content. or would i need to take subterfuge

[royal lantern]

you need iron wire

garrote itself doesnt have a silence anymore

[plain jewel]

oh. the tooltip still says that it does. mb

[royal lantern]

also possible that i have a gigantic brainfart rn and just talk shit, dont worry

[gloomy dust]

Fr? Mine doesn't say it will silence. I also don't have iron wire talented

[royal lantern]

@spice spire help

cant answer questions with no sleep

[plain jewel]

yeah. seems like a tooltip error. you always needed iron wire lol

[spice spire]

Iron wire is needed

[subtle tundra]

yay beta em plus

[gloomy dust]

My tooltip just says "Garrote the enemy, causing X bleed damage over 18 sec. Awards 1 combo point." That's it

[spice spire]

Tooltips often wrong don’t regard them as reality And just try it with iron wire

[royal lantern]

time to make a new clickbait beta m+ video mate

"WTF how could THIS RELEASE???? most BROKEN SPEC EVER???? blizzard WTF??????"

[gloomy dust]

Thumbnail 101 😂

[subtle tundra]

why 2nd charge of shiv huh

[gloomy dust]

More uptime on toxic blade effect

[green harbor]

the new blindside is so fun

[subtle tundra]

new

[green harbor]

the self proccing is new

[spice spire]

It proccs on ambush

Nice QoL

[gloomy dust]

It procs on itself, wow didn't even read that tooltip properly

[royal lantern]

tooltip says mutiliate and ambush have a proc chance

so yeha

you can go ambush->ambush->ambush

[gloomy dust]

There is no possibility to spec DTB double poisons at 60, is there

[green harbor]

nope, earliest is 61

[gloomy dust]

Ew

Kingsbane and Indiscriminate carnage are reachable though

[dense herald]

Bro idk snd is actually such a pain in the ass on aoe for assass

[royal lantern]

SnD is failed nostalgia bait that doesnt belong in modern wow

years over years of people begging for a SnD removal, it happens, and then they bring it back in Shadowlands because "BIG UNPRUNNING!!!"

[little light]

wdym, I love managing a boring passive speed buff

[dense herald]

Yep. Like squeezing in an envenom (on aoe) just for the purpose of extending it is just tedious, it’s hard enough to fit in exang, DM, sbs, shiv

[royal lantern]

tbf

in really big aoe situations, SnD is not THAT important to hold up 100%of the time

[gusty mirage]

Oh are we crying about snd again?

This channels a broken fucking record holy shit

Can you guys find something else to complain about? Lmao

[royal lantern]

the crying continues until exsang is reworked and SnD its turned into a passive 🙏

[gusty mirage]

Neither of those things are happening

So have fun ig

[royal lantern]

cus everything else about assa is great

[royal lantern]

hey, rogues managed to get SnD removed once allready

[spice spire]

[subtle kiln]

why does jasmine rice hate me?!?! it fuck with my blood sugars no matter how I dose for it.

[timid cloud]

Why is Exsang so lame?

[viscid spear]

How about that... ....
Smoke Bomb?

[little light]

if we all make a circle and hold our hands

we can remove things we dont like pog

[hardy dagger]

Exang goated

[gusty mirage]

Idk man, it sucks because it’s good. Does basmati do the same?

[gusty mirage]

Because you touch yourself at night

[gusty mirage]

You still have it bud, just pvp

[subtle kiln]

tbh I don’t know. can’t remember last time I had it.

[gusty mirage]

Starches gonna starch

[subtle kiln]

so exsang hate is directly proportional to no nut November failure rate.

[viscid spear]

PvE Return when

[royal lantern]

thinking about exsang is the best way to go flaccid tbh

[hearty junco]

i think its good, i hope SND gets removed from all specs, and realz lurks here so why not be a broken record. I havent heard a single good thing about SND, especially when 2 specs will only press it once and sub gets it from talent(might aswell just make the buff 40 sec when entering dance so they never have to press it)

[royal lantern]

its a broken record because we dont really have much else to complain about tbh

[hearty junco]

im with you 100% of the way, ill be as broken as i have to be here

[royal lantern]

like i said: imo exsang and SnD are the only real big painpoints rn(with exsang being a big one, and SnD more of an "why is it even a thing?")

because everything else is just great

[static glacier]

Bro how are people dropping SND?

Like you just press y button instead of x button ONCE in any engagement

[royal lantern]

its not about dropping, its never about dropping

[static glacier]

Is it about button bloat etc?

[royal lantern]

the entire thing is: why does it even exist at all, when 2 out fo 3 specs litearlly use it once, and then never again

only sub sometimes has to re-cast it

[static glacier]

I’d say outlaw does sometimes recast

[royal lantern]

only if you are really really REALLY unlucky

[sturdy merlin]

Isn't sub using premed now ?

[static glacier]

If they don’t hit the buff that extends it which iirc is one of the low value rolls anyway

[sturdy merlin]

I don't even think they have to cast it more than once now

[static glacier]

Idk tbh, not played sub on beta

[gusty mirage]

because what's bad about SnD

[royal lantern]

reminder that outlaw rn has multiple buffs active all the time

[gusty mirage]

besides "I hate having to maintain something else"

[royal lantern]

like, keep it rolling+dreadblades etc...

[gusty mirage]

but then it's a complaint that you press it once and forget about it

[royal lantern]

^

[gusty mirage]

so what exactly are we complaining about?

are we bitching just to bitch?

[static glacier]

Basically he’s questioning it’s existence

[royal lantern]

nothing else to complain about

[static glacier]

Since it doesn’t add gameplay

[gusty mirage]

it doesn't?

It adds another layer to the opener

[static glacier]

You can complain that crimson tempest didn’t get the primal wrath treatment

[gusty mirage]

there's a million other things to complain about

and here we are

complaining about snd

literally the most irrelevant of fucking abilities since they brought back cttc

I didn't realize I woke up in November of 2020

[static glacier]

Ngl I didn’t care when it wasn’t in the game or when it’s not extended like it’s just a maintenance buff finisher

[gusty mirage]

yeah, it's whatever

idk why people have a seething hatred for it

[royal lantern]

what has assa rn

dunno

outside of exsang, im fine with the spec

(gameplay wise atleast)

[static glacier]

My issue with exsang more than the gameplay is it’s tuning

It went from being “an option” to being low-key mandatory if you play competitively

[hearty junco]

whats even the point of having a button just to press it once and never again when it does not alternate how you play the game and basically does nothing

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage aaaaaaaand we are at exsang again

we did it

[static glacier]

Idk, do you enjoy playing exsang in aoe?

[spare crow]

[gusty mirage]

because it adds depth to the class?

if you do your rotation properly you're rewarded with more uptime

how is that bad

[hearty junco]

might aswell be a passive, it didnt exist in BFA and it worked totally fine, assa is especially button bloated atm, SND gone would be good riddance

[gusty mirage]

lmao no it's not

[hearty junco]

are you saying assa is not buttonbloated?

[gusty mirage]

I'm saying I had to add 1 extra keybind

oh my LORD THE BLOAT

[royal lantern]

tbf, you can just put SnD into a corner, you use it as your 2nd gcd and never press it again

it doesnt need to be on 1-2-3 or q-e lol

i put SnD on G

[spare crow]

You a real G

[hearty junco]

impossible, stealth on G

[static glacier]

Stealth on 2, what’re you on

[hearty junco]

im sure assa has the most active buttons in a rotation of all classes

[hearty junco]

dude what

[static glacier]

💀💀

Admittedly I have thrbocursed binds

[royal lantern]

eh, less "active" buttons, more "many semi-short cds that you slam on cd"

[static glacier]

Zxcvf are my 12345

[oblique tangle]

How is it button bloated my guy?

[gusty mirage]

mutilate, garrote, rupture, envenom, shiv, deathmark, ER, bonespike, kingsbane, and tea

for ST

[hearty junco]

i agree, im just bad at explaning

[static glacier]

Forgot ambush

[hearty junco]

ambush?

[gusty mirage]

vs mutilate, garrote, rupture, envenom, shiv, vendetta, covenant ability, and mfd

• CT

[oblique tangle]

Literally blizzard can't catch a break. Too many buttons in MoP, not enough buttons in Legion, too many buttons in DF

[gusty mirage]

in ST

[oblique tangle]

Imagine our spec presses 4 buttons

What riveting and engaging gameplay

[static glacier]

In mop the buttons were utility shit, not dps buttons

[hearty junco]

vanish

[gusty mirage]

okay

[hearty junco]

SND

[gusty mirage]

lmao

[static glacier]

I’m cool with the current number of buttons ngl

[gusty mirage]

you had vanish

and snd inshadowlands

you're literally adding 1 maybe 2 more binds

[static glacier]

I disagree with the whole button bloat take

[oblique tangle]

I'm speaking as a whole

[gusty mirage]

you don't take CT in ST

[hearty junco]

exsan

[gusty mirage]

you don't take MFD

[timid cloud]

Only button that’s bloated is Exsang.

[oblique tangle]

Anyway button bloat sounds so dumb because our rotation isn't even that complex

[gusty mirage]

no cov special ability

[hearty junco]

you must do shit dmg, you dont even have 3 abilities

[pseudo hamlet]

I hate it and I don't really like the idea of having much more buttons in DF

[static glacier]

But a button you press once a dungeon can be on a shit bind, stuff you use every 40-50 secs needs a decent bind

[cobalt hemlock]

maybe they were comparing shadowlands buttons vs df buttons? idk

[timid cloud]

Dunno.

[static glacier]

You could look into options which minimise active abilities

Idk how cursed it would be on ST tho

[timid cloud]

You can refresh SND, so it doesn’t even need to be hit every 50s wat

[hearty junco]

sure if it was withing 1% of each other, but it is not

[hearty junco]

still a button

[gusty mirage]

it's a button that existed in SL

as was vanish

and ambush

[timid cloud]

Extremely cooked take. Gotta admit chief.

[gusty mirage]

what's your point

[static glacier]

Which is where we go back to my earlier point, exsang is fine - the tuning on it isn’t, makes it as a choice mandatory if you’re playing seriously

[gusty mirage]

did you refuse to play mfd as venthyr assassination in SL too? because of button bloat?

[little light]

someone is mad

[timid cloud]

[oblique tangle]

WoW may not be the game for you any more, try GW2?

[hearty junco]

did you read whispyrs twitlonger on exsang?

[gusty mirage]

exsang sucks

[hearty junco]

no im only a GW1 king

[static glacier]

Nah, is it pinned or can you dm me a link?

[gusty mirage]

it's a completely unintuitive button

[hearty junco]

yes sir

[timid cloud]

[static glacier]

Oh shot today 😳

[hearty junco]

i have like 5 hour gameplay on dolls atm and i goddamn hate exsang

[oblique tangle]

Take it off gcd :)

[timid cloud]

Lol

[oblique tangle]

Ugh it'd feel so intuitive then

[pseudo hamlet]

How many new buttons are we getting in DF? 4? Exang, Ambush, ER, Tea?

[gusty mirage]

no it wouldn't

[timid cloud]

I think that was a joke…? Not too sure.

[hearty junco]

bonespike aswell

[gusty mirage]

what does it being on the gcd have to do with the fact that maximizing its potential is found nowhere in game

[pseudo hamlet]

I think it evens out with the cov ability 😛

[little light]

kingsbane and bonespike but we alreayd were using 1 covenant skill

so either ER or bone is an extra

[oblique tangle]

Because now you can bind it to other spells and just vibe :^)

Or better yet I have it bound to a side mouse button

[gusty mirage]

that's a very very bad way of playing exsang

[little light]

too many cds is kinda shit rotation tho, as an unholy dk player xd

[gusty mirage]

like a terrible way

[oblique tangle]

So that'd feel really nice for meeeee

[timid cloud]

Oxi, I think it’s bait.

[pseudo hamlet]

So it's 5 with the Kingsbane

[timid cloud]

[hearty junco]

ER is also cov

[pseudo hamlet]

You can get 2 "cov" abilities - ER and SBS, so I didn't count the latter.

[little light]

think so yeah and ambush if you using blindside

[oblique tangle]

I mean you can bind it to death mark ezpz

And click it at other times if it's so problematic. Set it and forget it for another 45 seconds

[timid cloud]

[oblique tangle]

Doesn't even interrupt your combo now

[hearty junco]

yes just making sure

[little light]

just dont take cloak of shadows free a keybind kekw

[pseudo hamlet]

Yeah I did count it already in the previous message 😄

[gusty mirage]

[static glacier]

After reading the twitlonger I generally agree, the whole using on max pandemic’d dots I’m used to but I guess for people who’re just trying it now it’s cringe. I have faith that realz will see the twitlonger and do something about the current balancing of exsang

[gusty mirage]

yeah, like it's whatever

it does damage

[oblique tangle]

Are you telling me you don't use exsang after death mark if it's up

[gusty mirage]

you use exsang before deathmark or you shorten your deathmark window

[oblique tangle]

Nah just reapply bleeds

[gusty mirage]

no

[oblique tangle]

:)

[gusty mirage]

like it shortens deathmark

which is a bleed

[little light]

it reduces deathmark duration thats dumb

[hearty junco]

any smart assa rogue know what we would take instead of Exsang if there was a viable option?

i would be even more stressed out if it was CT

[pseudo hamlet]

They should've change it to something like Death Mark, just make it a debuff that gives your target +100% faster bleed ticks for a period of time if they really want to keep that ability

[hearty junco]

i dont like the idea of faster dots

means i have to spend more time doing dots instead of envenom

[gusty mirage]

so you wanted our tier set from 9.2?

[crystal nymph]

fan of knives how it generates combo point

i mean how much ?

[pseudo hamlet]

Yeah, the debuff thing would've been better than the thing we have right now I guess

[gusty mirage]

based on crits

[royal lantern]

1, and a additonal CP for each crit trought Seal Fate

[static glacier]

Like envenom is cool and all but the spec’s strongest buttons are the dots - more opportunities for rupture and garrotte is good for performance

Unless poison bomb is overtuned again xd

[royal lantern]

so, if you have 5 targets, FoK can generate 1 to 5 CP with 1 cast, depending how many crits you do

[crystal nymph]

1 and each target crit ?

[crystal nymph]

if i crit 5 of them can it generates 6 point ?

1 base + 5 crit ?

[hearty junco]

well poisons do dmg, and envenom helps with that

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[static glacier]

Anyone have beta m+ logs for sin?

[sturdy merlin]

@subtle tundra lucky beta owner do you have any log to share ?

[royal lantern]

m+ logs are worthless on live allready, even more on beta cus we had a big number change last week

[static glacier]

?

You realise m+ beta is active now right

Like right this moment

Had to use a friends acc to beta test and was too busy trying out evo

[hearty junco]

i could show you but i wouldnt play assa in m+ for all the gold in wow

[static glacier]

It used to be quite strong end of bfa

Shrouded suffocation was omegastrong

[hearty junco]

yes, i kinda enjoyed it then, but i dont think the aoe has nice synergy now

Playing kingsbane, do you hold the 3rd shiv to the 2nd kingsbane?

[upbeat mirage]

you want 2 shivs to cover kingsbane

[hearty junco]

the 2nd aswell?

[upbeat mirage]

is the current math, as far as I know

[hearty junco]

since if you do that you hold shiv for some time

[upbeat mirage]

correct.

[hearty junco]

i understand it for first, but does math say hold for 2nd aswell

[upbeat mirage]

"always have 2 shivs for KB"

[hearty junco]

okok

[upbeat mirage]

math gets wierder and weirder with the 25 sec cooldown

don't overcap if KB cooldown is >25

[hardy dagger]

Man ic ironwire is actually really Nice on some packs

Pair that with vdh silence

[potent topaz]

Yes, SS was strong in BfA but it was much more Echoing Blades that was responsible for Assa's strength in m+

[thorn fjord]

Morning folks

[subtle tundra]

hi

buff assa

[static glacier]

Notlikethisvaras

[snow hamlet]

tooltip is generate 15 energy in wowhead ,but 1 en in game ,which side is correct?

[royal lantern]

ingame

wowhead using wrong information

[snow hamlet]

ok ,thanks

[latent dew]

So with the new talents and deathmark, duskwalkers works with it?

or it's just plain useless

[royal lantern]

it works

for the 1 1/2 weeks where we still have it

+check the pins, its inside them 🙂

[latent dew]

Thanks 🙂

[ebon notch]

???

ur cracked

[subtle tundra]

i know

ty

[fallen arch]

Daydrinking

Oh my name is still weird

Ey ho Whisp can I change it back

[limber lion]

There you go

[wary ice]

[subtle tundra]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[spare crow]

💀

[subtle kiln]

have fun never seeing that again

[spare crow]

bro i'd punch my screen fr

[fallen arch]

[thorn crater]

hey a quick question. how do i generate a link for my raider.io? just take the URL from the page after i log in?

[red atlas]

TUCK exanguinate

[cerulean nest]

can I get a quick explanation of the whole "refresh to max pandemic bleeds before exsang" thing. lets say exsang is about to come up but i just refreshed my garrote, and rupture still has 18 seconds left on it. what am I suppposed to do to quickly get both to max pandemic?

[ancient rain]

Reapply both

[cerulean nest]

even if at the time they arent in pandemic

just full refresh wherever they happen to be and hit exsang?

[onyx wind]

yes

did anyone play assa in keys on beta? how does it feel

[little light]

I think the idea (correct me if im wrong) is if you maximize the casts of exanguinate you gonna get more 2x faster garrote/ruptures therefore at the end is gonna be more dps than maximizing with pandemic reapply while waiting to things to line up

in a x time window is > more faster bleeds, more bleeds vs less bleeds but optimized

[next edge]

Show details from m+

pls dad

[royal lantern]

its like: exsang is ~5sec away, you do mut mut rupture for a new rupture(you want max duration) and garrote(cus you also want a max duration for that) and then press exsang

then you let them run out, and re-apply when they reach 0

you totally ignore pandemic for exsang

🙂

[cerulean nest]

yeah that makes sense to me, ive just seen people say "max pandemic" which made me think theyre somehow manipulating those refreshes to be pandemic refreshes

but that makes a lot more sense

[royal lantern]

nah, literarlly just re-apply no matter the timer

[cerulean nest]

ok cool, misinterpreted that then

[royal lantern]

that IS max pandemic, its just counter intuitive to how you normaly play it(cus normaly you re-apply when you reach the point where pandemic timers start to "drop")

[cerulean nest]

ah I see

[little light]

I think its similar to why you use cds on outlaw without lining up otherwise you lose value on restless blades

[cerulean nest]

also for vanishes in deathmark, you obviously want to have garrote rolling as you press DM. then do you use vanish on the first refresh within DM to empower it, or is there a more specific time

[little light]

if you wait for lineups you lose more than you gain

[royal lantern]

you litearlly use everything on cd outside of your opener

no really big thought behind it

[next edge]

Vanish and DM will line up naturally

[cerulean nest]

yeah im not confused about more casts being better than lining up, thats very often true

[next edge]

but just send when they go out CD

[royal lantern]

only the opener has stuff on a specific timer, after that its just "if it is not on cd, use it"

+what lambda said, dm+vanish line up cus they are both 2min

you always have a empowered garrote during DM cus of it

[little light]

only thing you delay is shiv if kingsbane right? or simply just always save shiv for that

[teal bloom]

is the logic still to vanish before deathmark in the opener?

[royal lantern]

you want 2 shiv charges for KB yes

[little light]

got ya, im trying to learn myself so maybe I was just selfreasuring xD

[teal bloom]

Or is it vanish when exsanged garrote runs out

[next edge]

And the only way is just never use them outside KB

right?

[next edge]

You vanish-garr after DM

I think

[subtle kiln]

pretty sure you can run beta quick sim by adding ptr=1 and you can see the apl / opener as currently implemented

[vestal wren]

you don't even need to run a sim to see apls

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/tree/dragonflight/engine/class_modules/apl/rogue

^ all apls are there

_df are the dragonflight ones

[cerulean nest]

yeah I know they line up, I was just asking like are there gains to vanish garroting right before DM versus at the beginning of DM versus the end of DM etc.

but if its literally just send then gg

[subtle kiln]

sample sequence was what I was thinking

[vestal wren]

oh, ye you need a gear profile for that

and ptr=1 for dragonflight

[royal lantern]

uh

shiv is 25sec right?

[subtle kiln]

had a brain fart and said apl. sitting at vet office.

[royal lantern]

if yes, then, well, yeha

[subtle tundra]

t.tv/varras

[next edge]

yep

[vestal wren]

go you covered

[next edge]

Nerf sin

confirmed

[spice spire]

No man

[copper hazel]

tauren OP

[subtle kiln]

warstomp is a dps loss

[hearty junco]

do we reapply rupture during kings?

[vestal wren]

idk what build, but here is a sample sequence with scuffed gear:
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dAZbEn3DgoPW4GNBZQPeif

[next edge]

if its going to fall

yeah

as long as your Envenom is up

you can reapply without issues

[subtle kiln]

I see you CT

[vestal wren]

i can run a diffrent build if you give me a import string or wowhead link

[subtle kiln]

prob the pinned one Kings

img1

i’m assuming that’s what most are messing with

[next edge]

82k overall

confirmed assa is broken

nerf 🚑

[subtle tundra]

well i dont think assa is nerf worthy in m+

but its looking real good

[next edge]

nah was joking

but it looks super pog tbh

usually what classes tend to do as overlal

[subtle tundra]

no idea

i played a cos with an outlaw and we did same overall

[vestal wren]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1PyHuR482P8pBcYQKx7X2M

again, ignore damage as the profile is not super optimized

[thorn fjord]

Are you really taking full advantage of being a cow if you're not macro'ing /moo to Deathmark, SB's or ADR?

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I've done it and its a slight dps increase

no cap

[vestal wren]

should macro it to shiv instead

[copper hazel]

has to be capslock MOO to really show strength

[teal bloom]

Assassin api seems to be 20 days old, idk if whispyr has found any dps increases since 🤔

3 cp envenom hmm

[cerulean nest]

envenom buff number 1 prio during KB over bleeds?

[thorn fjord]

Feel like you're not going to want any of your bleeds to drop during KB given that its more than likely being synced with DM

So id say maintaining bleeds would still take prio over env spam

[teal bloom]

and if you let your bleeds drop it's so awkward to get them back with 0 energy regen

[thorn fjord]

Yeah... Not like its hard to maintain bleeds with this build especially without CT

You should still get plenty of uptime on ENV with only having to recast Garrote... Rup should be up if cast with full CP prior to DM

throughout the duration

[desert shard]

Hey, been away from wow and rogue for a longer time, checked out the new builds, saw exsanguinate and threw up in my mouth. Just wanted to confirm - are we just slamming that shit on cd?

[thorn fjord]

Essentially

We're hoping its only a 1-3% increase which if it is you can choose to not take it as @gusty mirage and I plan to do

Because fuck that button

[desert shard]

hard agree, fuck that button

[teal bloom]

I think it's atleast 5% difference after bleed buffs

which is huge

[thorn fjord]

Yeah 5 is huge

[desert shard]

thanks for info, I'll keep an eye out then on the disc for any builds that don't involve it int he future 🙂

[exotic pulsar]

do we refresh exsang bleeds during pandemic, 1 second, or let them fall off?

[cerulean nest]

on 0

aka the moment they fall off

[exotic pulsar]

ok

ty

[strange python]

I know it's probably just early build things, but why the double rupture in opener

[subtle tundra]

exsanguinate

[vestal wren]

It is due to this linerupture,if=talent.exsanguinate.enabled&!will_lose_exsanguinate&dot.rupture.pmultiplier<=1&(effective_combo_points>=cp_max_spend&cooldown.exsanguinate.remains<1&dot.rupture.remains*0.5<target.time_to_die)

so as varas mentioned, it is for exsang

[subtle tundra]

poggers ability!!!!

[next edge]

Assa looks so cool in keys

AoE is most likely IC then spam FoK CT?

[balmy condor]

No CT spam

:)

[next edge]

So IC then CT then envenoms and reapply?

[balmy condor]

Yeh basically

[hollow barn]

Does IC apply Shrouded garrotte?

[balmy condor]

Shrouded is a passive, I sure hope it does

[hollow barn]

You’d hope

My WA seems to think doesn’t but just might not be scripted that way

[balmy condor]

Why would you script shrouded

[hollow barn]

Hmm, now I’m confused

Is it not the same as BFA where you don’t refresh it till 0 cus it snapshots

[subtle tundra]

idk ive been spamming ct real good

in my keys

🫡

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s improved garrote

[hollow barn]

Ahhhh

[balmy condor]

Same as subterfuge

Shrouded is completely passive

Just a flat 20% garrote damage all the time

[hollow barn]

Then my wa doesn’t think IC applies Improved garrotte

[balmy condor]

Oh

[hollow barn]

Yeah just got them mixed up

[balmy condor]

Yeah it for sure does that

[hollow barn]

That’s good to know

[rich scaffold]

Poison Bomb for Outdoor Leveling or Carnage?

[night delta]

gut feeling says carnage

and swap to a ST spec for handling bosses

[balmy condor]

I recommend poison bomb

[night delta]

well do what he says, he knows best

[balmy condor]

Carnage is probably fine but 3 points for scent is….

Quite a bit

You’d have to pull pretty big consistently to get value for it

[grim breach]

So wait a sec, no matter the target count, you CT once, keep garrote/rupt up, then you just envenom outside of this? No worth to spam CT after for more than x targets? Thinking of big pulls here.

[balmy condor]

No you can, you just want to envenom as well

It’s less of a spam and more of a “do literally anything else beforehand”

[grim breach]

So if envenom buff is not up, it's more worth to get it up, then it is to overwrite a CT (basically cast it again)? in 5+ targets for example

Asking because I was thinking to ignore envenom a bit during high pulls and during echoing proccs etc, and just spam ct's somehow.

[balmy condor]

Yes

That’s the current idea

[grim breach]

Feels a bit awkward, in a pack of many mobs, to have to spend combo points on a single target ability, in order to buff my AoE passives. Intuitive AF

[balmy condor]

I mean CT is a bleed

You typically don’t want to overwrite bleeds

Envenom gives a buff to poison application

Fok applies poisons

[subtle tundra]

i spam 🙂

[fallen arch]

How is poison bomb dam now

[balmy condor]

Fine

It’s like 6%

[fallen arch]

Ah ok

Start prepatch it was so dumb

Whisp

Cev gave me a new name

Can I change it back

[silk linden]

on a 2T fight are kingsbane and DTB builds similar in damage? or does DTB take the edge here

[balmy condor]

Dtb wins

It’s not a big win though

[silk linden]

iirc you take CT at 2+ targets... what talents do you sacrifice for CT on a 2T fight? compared to image 2

[balmy condor]

Zold

Or venom rush

Either or

I’d personally drop venom rush cause it’s already so fast

[silk linden]

yeah, and some execute amp is still desirable

and one last question, if a regular garrote is up on the target and you vanish to apply an improved garrote does this new garrote deal 50% increased damage for its 18+5,4 seconds eventhough the previous garrote wasn't an improved garrote?

and if it does, do you still want to vanish>gar>X>gar anyway?

cause in my mind you are just gaining 2 extra secs of imp garrote

[wary ice]

Yes it does, the pandemic will take up to 30% of the new dots duration (5.4 for gar) from the old dot and put it on the new dot

Since the new one is empowered the full duration will be empowered, including what was added from pandemic

[runic hinge]

That’s hot

[silk linden]

nice, thanks for the answer

any idea about the second question? would you still vanish>gar>x>gar if the first garrote already got the max possible duration?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[wary ice]

None that I'm confident giving an answer on but with exsang I'd assume yes

[balmy condor]

It’s efficient cp through shrouded

[silk linden]

makes sense, I just thought of the 2 extra seconds of imp garrote you'd get but didn't think of the CP

[dark token]

Welcome to sin

Envenom in aoe xDD

[grim breach]

Would have made a bit more sense if 20%ish of env spread to 8 targets or something. I think feral got something like that on their bite.

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Or poison bomb

[subtle kiln]

[grim breach]

Not seeing specced it on your M+ build Whispyr 😉

So it clearly is not for AoE 😄

[cobalt hemlock]

he is trying to say he wished he could have it i think at least

[silk linden]

maybe next expansion when we get more points

but then they'll throw another 3 pointer to gate PB

[slim hamlet]

Is rogue the only class with 3 pointers now btw?

[silk linden]

druid still has them in their class tree

[slim hamlet]

ah ok

Just remember a lot of people talking about them removing every 3 pointer, but I guess some remain

[royal lantern]

yeha, but nobody plays rogue, so no complains

[slim hamlet]

true and real

[royal lantern]

if balance druid had 3x 3pointer in its spec tree? oh boy

the outrage

[slim hamlet]

or bm hunter

[silk linden]

now that you mention BM hunter

i think there's a 3 point node

[slim hamlet]

lol

[silk linden]

in the dire beast side

of the tree

close to the capstone

[slim hamlet]

top being bm hunter m+ parses, and 2nd being prot warrior

Soooo many players, I don't understand

Unironically getting sleepy playing it

[slim hamlet]

oof

[silk linden]

I can't think of any other spec with a 3 pointer

[slim hamlet]

Glad that's not our trees right boys

[royal lantern]

you realise that m+ parses are somewhat of an meme. right

almost nobody does it

[slim hamlet]

yeah but that doesn't change what i said

still that many players compared

raids are the same

[oblique jackal]

Not sure where to post this but does anyone know how I can get the unit frames and action bars to look like this without elvui?

[silk linden]

there's an addon called masque (haven't used it myself) that changes the look of your action bars

don't know if it has the theme you are looking for tho

shadowed unit frames is an alternative to elvui, but then again I don't know if you can customize to look exactly like the pic

[oblique jackal]

RIP

elvui is pretty heavy on my system

was hoping to be able to switch to something else and get a little more FPS

[white temple]

Quick poll: BDK or Prot War?

[vast loom]

if you like outlaw prot war, if you like sub BDK

new bdk cd management reminds me of sub a lot imo

[silk linden]

and if you like assa, bear?

[vast loom]

eh theres no tank that plays like sin

or even close

[green apex]

New bear is really fun but it's no assman

[sharp falcon]

just tank as 'sin

[vast loom]

true

leeching poison is all you need

[sharp falcon]

dodge all enemy attacks like a skilled ninja would, just get good

[gusty mirage]

I did many times thanks to whatever weird thing was going on with threat on 9.2.5 launch

[sharp falcon]

9.2.5, eh

[gusty mirage]

yeah dunno my tank couldn't keep aggro

I was tanking infiltrators like I was the OT

[sharp falcon]

"split tank, split tank!"

[gusty mirage]

I'm sure full sending vendetta on one 6s into the pull wasn't the reason at all

also apparently you can't evasion the claws on the infiltrators, fun fact 😦

[subtle tundra]

Why did I do m+ today and exsang was still available as a talent

😭

[balmy condor]

Bring back 4 horsemen so every guild on the planet starts sweating profusely looking for people to off-tank

[sharp falcon]

You can delete it from your brain, if you'd like

[subtle tundra]

I like exsang

🙂

[sharp falcon]

Live your truth

[gusty mirage]

rip to all the guilds

[subtle tundra]

I'm not capping

[gusty mirage]

4 horsemen killed my guild in naxx because 2 of our tanks got poached

[balmy condor]

True, you’re varas

[neat plank]

wtf literally what happened to my vanilla guild

[gusty mirage]

ye we weren't alone

[sharp falcon]

happened to many

[gusty mirage]

so many guilds died in vanilla naxx

[sharp falcon]

the fight REALLY wanted 8 geared tanks, and that was unreachable for many guilds. The only 'solution' was to combine forces

[neat plank]

made me quit the game till mid-TBC

[gusty mirage]

ay yo are you me?

[neat plank]

:p

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

I learned to appreciate modern raiding by remembering spending 6 hours a night in molten core

and coming back the next day and clearing all the trash again

[neat plank]

@balmy condor what's the highest simming assa build for m+ at level 60, not 70? 😄

[balmy condor]

Don’t care

[neat plank]

[silk linden]

[gusty mirage]

you get used to it

[balmy condor]

You gotta go in with the snorzleflute man

Hit ‘em with the ol tootin flutin

[gusty mirage]

ez: the baby valkyr,one of the zandalari lil raptor boi, and it doesn't really matter who's third

[silk linden]

ikky, always ikky

[gusty mirage]

true ikky built diffy

the baby valkyr is just OP af

[subtle kiln]

how are all my exsang enjoyers doing this afternoon? need some positive vibes. puppers has a uti

[spice spire]

[subtle kiln]

2.5 hours to get in. meds should clear it up decently quick.

[rancid crypt]

with the buffs, i heard some say assassin can now be compared with outlaw in m+ a bit more, opinions? where does assassin stand with these buffs currently in m+=

[balmy condor]

It’s good

[subtle tundra]

Good

Dont believe whuspar he didn't even play it

[balmy condor]

💀

Bro’s keylogging my pc to see if I do my daily sin rotation

Focus on yourself homeboy

[subtle tundra]

I have facts and proof that assa is good in m+.

You have robot numbers

😬

[balmy condor]

Perfecto tell you that?

[subtle tundra]

I played a cos with him today

We did same overall, he was outlaw

He was try hard with full enchants and good trinkets

And stats

[royal lantern]

ofc, gotta catch you betraying the spec

[balmy condor]

When you got haters you know you made it

[wary ice]

theres still value to pooling yeah? ie: all bleeds are up, your're sitting on 6 cp, you still have 2s left on EP and no cooldowns are active, it'd be better to wait for the ep to env again right?

[balmy condor]

Yep

Super minimal

But technically better

[subtle tundra]

How about pool before kb

Is it bigger

🤨

[balmy condor]

Sure

If you struggle keeping envenom up for the whole kb go for it

[wary ice]

my favorite kind of better tyty

We also use 1st shiv the global before Kb right? to increase the initial hit?

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[wary ice]

i consistently forget i hav 2 charges of shiv :/ am bad

[grave scroll]

ass rogue pve question for prepatch event lvling.

crimson tempest yay or nay?

[deft cave]

indiferent, just throw knife to tag as many adds as u can

ez xp

[grave scroll]

kk tap ez scum mode it is, ty ty

[balmy condor]

Bonus points for using bone spike to get energy back between knife throws

[rancid crypt]

Yh but is it "better", and more viable in M+ now than it was before? idk the % on how much better it is tho, but in general is it better in m+ now than b4?

[subtle tundra]

idk, whispyr please can you tell us

[balmy condor]

It was not good before

It is now good

That transition is usually considered an improvement

[subtle tundra]

actually really stronk!

like the aoe silences are so clutch

the bitches you get from exsang are really helpful aswell

[obtuse robin]

[subtle tundra]

tf you mean

[iron orchid]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-november-22/1407847

[subtle tundra]

lol

i see it

[warm urchin]

No way we got buffed again

[midnight mist]

m+ buff

[subtle tundra]

no fucking way

[oak sky]

Carnage timing buff

[midnight mist]

what varas

is it bad

[iron orchid]

synced with ER

[subtle tundra]

more ct spam

[midnight mist]

or not

[subtle tundra]

Bro

[midnight mist]

ah

bad

[subtle tundra]

we get like

80% rupture uptime from ic

[midnight mist]

ah unluck

was kinda getting hyped by sin in m+ ngl

[iron orchid]

how much is 7 cp rup duration ?

[oak sky]

A lot

34?

[subtle tundra]

🫡

assa masterrace

to the moon

[obtuse robin]

buffed while soft capping other classes abilities

wha ta time to be alive

[iron orchid]

because this is basically sync ER with IC so 7 cp 8 target rup

45 sec cd

pretty much 80% Varas was right

[midnight mist]

hm

so like, sin is just sub

or

[subtle tundra]

well

we still have exsang, kb, shiv, dm

• envenom uptime

[midnight mist]

yeah thats not what I find interesting about sin in m+ tho lol

[ashen sun]

can only get 1 capstone right?

[subtle tundra]

• garrote is 16 seconds

[subtle tundra]

no

[midnight mist]

I like spreading and maintaining bleed, think its engaging gameplay

[oak sky]

Thats been dead since we got carnage for the most part

[subtle tundra]

i would've preffered a sob buff though

[oak sky]

If scent was uncapped

[celest drift]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[thorn fjord]

STONKS

[midnight mist]

ok boring

going back to hating sin

[subtle tundra]

you havent even played it, sir

[midnight mist]

gl in ur quest of deleting outlaw varas

[midnight mist]

yep

you played outlaw tho?

[subtle tundra]

yes, i have played press bf

[balmy condor]

I'm not really sure this is better

[subtle tundra]

nothing has changed in pressing bf

[thorn fjord]

RTB logic tho

[midnight mist]

I pressed rupture once in 9.1

I think im fine

(it was on sub)

but same thing

[thorn fjord]

GOTTEM

[lone pine]

it certainly isn't worse

[subtle tundra]

damn sub rogue actually got some biggies

[balmy condor]

true

[subtle tundra]

glad for them

[gusty mirage]

thank god

maybe they can stop crying now

[balmy condor]

no they'll cry

because shadow blades from 3 min to 2 min doesn't change the fact that it's shadow blades

angy

[thorn fjord]

lol

[subtle tundra]

i-i like shadow blades

may not be high impact

but i like it

[balmy condor]

that's great varas

thank you

[strange python]

your opinion is considered now pay 8 dollars

[placid adder]

shadowblades=exsang?

[subtle tundra]

i like exsang too

[compact wing]

Kill him

[balmy condor]

well

shadow blades is hated cause it's trash and doesn't do anything

exsang is hated cause it's super annoying

[gusty mirage]

did they only get sblades changes?

haven't read it

[thorn fjord]

Can we skip this coming week plz?

[warm urchin]

Got damage buffs too

[thorn fjord]

They got 5-10% dmg increase on different abilities

[drowsy hollow]

man they really want sin to use carnage eh?

[gusty mirage]

I would say someone tag scath, but please don't

[tawny barn]

For high keys IC uptime will be almost every pack

Seems nice

[subtle tundra]

if carnage is 45 seconds... then in what scenarios is dtb used(except interchangeable with kb on st)

[subtle tundra]

will be on every pack

even twice possibly on harder pulls

doing ic with zoldyck going is huge

[drowsy hollow]

I still really love the fantasy of DTB though

[subtle tundra]

now shadow dance doesnt even line up even if it were good

😠

[thorn fjord]

All Rogue specs should get CDR like Outlaw

change my mind

[tawny barn]

Assa might be decent in m+ , finally

[subtle tundra]

go away

its more than decent

[subtle kiln]

it’s ok.

i’m more excited for IC buffs. the sblades buff could be nice. screw outlaw.

[near valley]

[subtle tundra]

ic buffs really do be not very ok

[subtle kiln]

it’s perfect. pushes the exsang haters over to feral

[thorn fjord]

nah nah nah

Aint no chicken birds out here

[subtle kiln]

[obsidian ridge]

do you want shadow dance for m+ outlaw for more ss garrotes?

[subtle tundra]

shadow dance is awful

[obsidian ridge]

cant log in right now I wanna see what that would look like. you really need the crit generats extra cp thing

[thorn fjord]

Subterfuge is a thing

[subtle tundra]

subterfuge isnt a thing

[near valley]

Exsang stonks rising is always a good thing

[thorn fjord]

orly?

[subtle tundra]

shrouded suffocation already has built in subterfuge

[thorn fjord]

Oh true

[subtle tundra]

or rather improved garrote

but my point is the same

[obsidian ridge]

so basically its just back to flaming my tnak for chainpulling just like bfa season 1? lets go

im up for that

[subtle tundra]

nah

[sand sigil]

watch dtb still beat ic in dslice and whispyr lose his mind

[subtle tundra]

its not a big deal if you dont get restealths

[tawny barn]

Go nelf helps to get combat resets

[gusty mirage]

oh james doesn't know

[subtle kiln]

I think we want him to keep his sanity, if that’s still a possibility

[subtle tundra]

2 capstone build poppin'

[balmy condor]

it's already behind

[gusty mirage]

forgive him, he couldn't keep up, had too many buttons to press in prepatch

[lament aurora]

from testing on beta, dtb always gave me higher overall in keys vs IC, but its all subjective

[subtle kiln]

more buttons. more!

[gusty mirage]

did you test the IC/KB build?

[subtle tundra]

the 2 capstone build goes hard

[subtle kiln]

2 cap slaps

[tawny barn]

2kappa

[gusty mirage]

outlaw gets nerfed, sin and sub get buffed

DH gets nerfed hard

[subtle tundra]

true

[gusty mirage]

as does unholy

what a timeline

[midnight mist]

yeah big nerfs, outlaw kinda dead rn, looking into a reroll..

[gusty mirage]

idk last time you guys received energy regen nerfs your entire channel cried for a week

"LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE"

[subtle tundra]

i played with dh today and fuck me dude
can they stop moving for 1 moment and not remove my thundering INSTANTLY

[gusty mirage]

"I HAVE EMPTY GCDs"

[lament aurora]

yeah, it depends so heavily on pull size and dungeon in my opinion as to what build ends up slapping more ass. that said both builds are pretty sick

[gusty mirage]

"BLIZZ DEV NERF ENERGY CUZ @marble hemlock SAY SO"

let's not forget that fiasco

[midnight mist]

well, you read this one tho?

[obtuse robin]

fuu already has sims up chop chop

[gusty mirage]

lmao these guys crying about snd still

[subtle tundra]

from what i tested it seemed to me that ic/kb was the go-to

[gusty mirage]

KEK

[marble hemlock]

what fiasco

nothing but the truth

[gusty mirage]

when you got rogue nerfed

remember

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

you single handedly

[marble hemlock]

its a time-honored CF tradition

[gusty mirage]

[subtle kiln]

@marble hemlock doggo pict <#assassination message>

[lament aurora]

I hope to also find that the case as ic/kb is much more fun

[marble hemlock]

[subtle tundra]

yepper cocker

just from the IC aoe silence + dr i think its better

[limber dagger]

can anybody share a mouseover shadowstep macro that works on enemys and friends? i cant make it myself lmao

[gusty mirage]

try this:

/cast [@mouseover,harm][@mouseover,help] [] Shadowstep```

not sure if it still works but worth a shot

[dense yoke]

wait more sin/sub buffs omg

[dark token]

Hard agree. Wish carnage was a 2 min with 100% buffed bleeds during duration, and they buff scent of blood to encourage multidot instead

[gusty mirage]

didn't they literally just buff scent of blood to encourage multidotting?

[dark token]

Yes I'm saying more

Rather than buffing carnage cd

[oak sky]

Uncap that mf

[gusty mirage]

[dark token]

Uncap and raise it by a % or something

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

Nerf everything but uncap scent

[subtle tundra]

uncap carnage and sob. put me in academy in the tree room with the triple pull. actually 1 million dps

[dark token]

Clearly sin needed aoe help (that's why they buff IC), but IC feels super lame as a low cooldown ability

Feels much less impactful

[oak pulsar]

"Tank pull the dungeon, were going to the moon"

[gusty mirage]

you're literally the only person I've heard say "IC feels super lame"

[oak sky]

Instead of press bf we are press ic

[gusty mirage]

now I've heard everything

[subtle tundra]

just like unholy in bfa, square root scaling

[dark token]

No I mean having 80% uptime of it

[subtle tundra]

LESS GO

[dark token]

Will be lame

[gusty mirage]

why

[dark token]

Cause you don't multidot at all then

[subtle tundra]

rupture becomes an afterthought...

[gusty mirage]

you don't?

[dark token]

^

[subtle tundra]

you still garrote on cd after it falls

[dark token]

You just IC and then CT/envenom spam for the pack

[gusty mirage]

bro are you doing +12s

what's going on here

[subtle tundra]

well, i do, cause fok ct spam gets boring

[dark token]

I'm just saying having such a low CD on it detracts from what makes sin m+ interesting

[gusty mirage]

it's 15 fucking seconds

[dark token]

So they should buff sin aoe in other ways, and revert carnage cd

[gusty mirage]

lmao

[dark token]

It lines up with ER now

That's like a 23s buff

Cause 7cp rupture

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-leaving-walk-out-walk-away-gif-12008922

[oak pulsar]

Ya our only aoe rotation was CT after getting as many garrotes and rupture off this feels way more impactful particular of 4+ targets where it just felt like shit to try and dot all that up

[tawny barn]

🤣

[dense yoke]

ngl IC is super fun

[gusty mirage]

Rogues:
IT'S BULLSHIT EVERYONE GETS EASY AOE

[subtle tundra]

cap

[gusty mirage]

Rogues get easy AOE:
THIS IS UNFUN

[strange python]

BOYS

45 SEC

[oak sky]

This is fun for anyone that didnt like sin in 9.1

Its whatever

[gusty mirage]

yeah but reducing it from 1 minute to 45s was what made it feel unimpactful

yep

[oak sky]

I never said that

I felt like that even with it existing

Or when it was a 1 min

[subtle tundra]

i think... that... assa will be good and outlaw will be good(they can still delete outlaw i dont mind)

[gusty mirage]

cause you're right, it was a QoL cooldown not a dps cooldown

[oak pulsar]

Carnage is a fun button getting to press it a little more is fun 45 seconds makes more sense then 1 minute when you consider your gonna do this mostly in mythic plus which is inherently faster pulls always moving so your more consistently doing good aoe dmg

[sour sand]

make it 30 sec CD and we have a deal blizz

[gusty mirage]

and now having a QoL cooldown available more often makes it less impactful according to my chilled russian friend

[subtle tundra]

mods, ban this guy

[sour sand]

still wont beat a feral

[gusty mirage]

[sour sand]

lol

[subtle tundra]

i can beat a cat any day.

in a fist fight

[sour sand]

primal wrath + insta bleed dmg talent + double rake

too stronk

[minor mural]

im way bigger than my cat i could totally take her on

speak for yourself

[gusty mirage]

soft target capped omegalul

[sour sand]

lol

[copper hazel]

[midnight mist]

amen

[subtle tundra]

"too stronk" until it gets a nerf and does mediocre damage

[gusty mirage]

that worked wonders for mm hunter at the start of season 3

target capped at 5 targets

did more aoe than all 3 rogue specs combined

[sour sand]

every tier list has Asssassin always the lowest

by youtubers

[near valley]

Good

[gusty mirage]

okay now you're losing me

you had me

and you just threw me out of the window

[subtle tundra]

it actually doesnt

[balmy condor]

there is something to be said about IC cooldown detracting from multi-dotting. I think it's starting to get there

[balmy condor]

what youtubers are you watching my guy

[sour sand]

just google melee tier list

[gusty mirage]

I'd rather not

[sour sand]

i randomly watched them all

[subtle tundra]

every list says assa is still a rogue and brings all the rogue stuff with it

[copper hazel]

youtubers from the other youtube, you dont know them

[sour sand]

Sin is usually really low

[balmy condor]

virus level content

[near valley]

Which youtubers are making tier lists ATM lol

[sour sand]

err not google, youtube I mean

[gusty mirage]

probably all of them because they're hungry for clicks

[sour sand]

tons, click bait

[oak pulsar]

If its mythic + tier lists I understand overall every youtuber I see has sin a or s heading into DF

[near valley]

Might as well be using a crystal ball

[gusty mirage]

CLICK HERE AND FIND OUT THE ONE REASON THEY'RE MAKING TIER LISTS THAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT

[sour sand]

not saying they are accurate. just saying they all think Sin is bad

[brisk garnet]

IC = SN

[subtle tundra]

most dont even know that assa needs to use dots to get energy

[balmy condor]

youtube.com/search/melee+tier+list

install trojan directly into my bios please

[near valley]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

anyone searching that up doesn't deserve to get an opinion

frankly

[sour sand]

they are probably playing OP stuff like Havok tbh

[empty hinge]

Did you guys see the latest dratnos tier list for raid

It’s insane

[flint marsh]

I googled it and some random guy came up who was using the old combat rogue logo for assassin

[empty hinge]

Has 20’rogues in it

[gusty mirage]

if its anything like his weekly routes, I'll pass

[flint marsh]

seems legit

[subtle tundra]

i love dratnos, makes me feel sane

[balmy condor]

yeah

you are very sane compared to him

[empty hinge]

It’s better

[balmy condor]

dratnos is a little juiced out

[gusty mirage]

tbf it's hard to be worse

[oak sky]

Would dratnos play er with no seal fate?

[empty hinge]

Just watch it

Surely it’s good enough

[balmy condor]

he'd tell you it's 100% during vendetta on top of it

[subtle tundra]

IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD BE GOOD

[final star]

Now you can sync IC and Exsanguinate

[hearty junco]

those work pretty good on healers if you add m+

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

the trojans infecting my pc?

[cobalt hemlock]

what are you talking about now?

[hearty junco]

yesn't

[oak sky]

All of this is preparation for exsang aoe

[cobalt hemlock]

what did dratnos do?

[balmy condor]

say dumb shit

[subtle tundra]

uh

[oak sky]

Nothing

[subtle tundra]

youtube videos

[balmy condor]

regular friday afternoon

[cobalt hemlock]

i mean isnt he already like a boomkin player that already disquialifies almost anything he says

[final star]

But kingsbane every 3 MINUTES and Deathmark every 6 MINUTES

[final star]

gottem

[balmy condor]

that's tettles

tettles has no rogue opinions

[slim hamlet]

I just saw the IC buff, and instantly went in here, I see it has sprung life into the chat

[balmy condor]

don't care what he says

dratnos used to play rogue

and has terrible rogue opinions

so I care

[subtle kiln]

what was the dumb shit this time? tanking has sucked away brain cells he had as a rogue.

[slim hamlet]

I swear there is no assassination rogue content on youtube besides pvp AT ALL

[gusty mirage]

good