assassination

[sturdy merlin]

Is it intended to get 5cp from a SS garrote during deathmark ? 2x dot application = 2x cp ?

[noble umbra]

hey guys anyone know of a good pandemic WA

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)

[gusty mirage]

I believe the luxthos one works with exsang

[spice spire]

Either one should work, I like afenar’s a bit

[gusty mirage]

don't quote me on that

[spice spire]

You can also do a change on either to make it work with Exsang if it doesn’t

[subtle tundra]

It's about m+ mostly. Using 3 generators in opener to need to use a 4th after felt bad.

[gusty mirage]

terrific

so one global still

got it

[subtle tundra]

?????

[royal lantern]

dude, SS made the opener in keys so much smoother

like, thats a fact lol

[subtle tundra]

Can't have the spec feel good ok

[royal lantern]

did it make a big difference? eh, probs not, but it still felt way better

[gusty mirage]

I mean if you're going to discount something as a "generic damage amp passive" be consistent

[subtle tundra]

And with ds its possible you did a 2nd fok in opener

Imagine doing 5 generators for a finisher ij aoe

[dark token]

Does it make a diff really, was gonna ic garrote fok rupture anyway

[subtle tundra]

But that's if you play ic

[dark token]

In m+ aren't you going ic + kb

[subtle tundra]

And ic isn't alway up at the start of the pull

Like most of the time it aint

[dark token]

Yeah so it helps for packs where you don't have IC, I guess low keys it's up every other pack

[spice spire]

Legitimately you can’t say that shrouded and the 2p are the exact same “generic passive gain”

[gusty mirage]

yes I can

[uncut echo]

No you cant

[gusty mirage]

no, I sure as fuck can

[dark token]

Also they stack tho which is nice

[uncut echo]

Okay, you're right. You can say it but they're NOT the same

[gusty mirage]

they're not?

[spice spire]

Legit, they’re not. They’re both passive gains, but one changes the function; while the other remains static

[gusty mirage]

show me a situation where it saves more than one global in the opener

[uncut echo]

That's not the same then

[gusty mirage]

sure it is

[spice spire]

Even “one global” is one global different compared to the exact same?

[gusty mirage]

I mean you're arguing so fiercely because it "feels better" and "smooths out the rotation"

but it's completely passive

and all that global does

is passively give you more damage

crazy

[uncut echo]

I see your side, but you're intentiwlly dumbing things down to fit your argument

[royal lantern]

we reached the peak degen point
#assassination is in a discussion if SS is good or bad

[spice spire]

?

[gusty mirage]

how am I dumbing anything down

[subtle tundra]

It's not completely passive. It gives you cp. Improved poisons is completely passive.

[uncut echo]

^

Because of what Varas said

[gusty mirage]

do you have to do anything special besides press stealth before you press garrote?

[spice spire]

I’m not arguing against they both being passive here - that’s silly.
But they do function differently

[gusty mirage]

how do they function differently

your point is it smooths out the rotation

okay

how is that any different than another passive

for example, seal fate

or improved garrote

[spice spire]

Because 2p doesn’t ?

[uncut echo]

I mean if it doesnt provide a button, if's a passive

[spice spire]

That makes it different

[uncut echo]

Ergo all passives are the same

[spice spire]

??

[uncut echo]

That's like saying vigor and zoldyck are the same

[random fossil]

They're not??

[spice spire]

I’m on rounds, ping me pls

[subtle tundra]

Play sd. How many globals does it now change

You're playing devils advocate

[uncut echo]

Obviously they're not

[random fossil]

[gusty mirage]

yeah because I want a valid reason for the 2pc being "meh" besides the reasons I was given

you guys are claiming something is bad design, when I rebutted with "oh that's because tying our damage to utility was bad design the 2pc was good"

[subtle tundra]

But it legit is bad

How is it not bad

[gusty mirage]

because it's free damage

I'm confused

[subtle tundra]

It's not free

How is it free

[gusty mirage]

it for sure was

[subtle tundra]

It's our 2pc

[gusty mirage]

ideal "maximum dps" playstyle

you pressed shiv on CD

even in aoe

even when all it did was increase nature damage on one target

you pressed it on cd

[subtle tundra]

Yea and? You did and you lost like 1%.now you didnt and you lost 5%

Or more

[hollow river]

This is the reason I only used the 4pc and not the 2pc

🤢

[gusty mirage]

idk I liked the 2pc

and thought it was really good

[subtle tundra]

Same. If shiv wasn't soothe

[gusty mirage]

if the "bad design" was that shiv was designed to be utility and damage

then sure

but the effect was great

whoever designed that idea deserves to be re-evaluated

[subtle tundra]

But it's not like they made shiv a soothe and designed the 2pc in the same patch.

[hollow river]

Nah I liked the 2pc just fine

[gusty mirage]

because tying our dps rotation into utility is the dumbest fucking thing ever

plus I think people forget what the original 2pc design was

and it was changed to the one we had

and people were pretty happy with it

and now suddenly its bad design

idk

[royal lantern]

for how long do you play wow now?

[gusty mirage]

too long

should've never came back in legion

[royal lantern]

why does it still surprise you?

[uncut echo]

Nah Oxi you're 100% right there. Utility for dam is cheeks

[royal lantern]

[willow cloud]

Hello guys, what is the general consensus about sin for m+? Will outlaw outshine it?

[gusty mirage]

depends on final tuning, but still worse than outlaw

[royal lantern]

its better then it is rn, will be really hard to beat outlaw

[gusty mirage]

in fact, if outlaw is properly tuned no rogue spec will beat it in a key environment

sub and assassination give up a good chunk of ST to do aoe

whereas outlaw never has to

[uncut echo]

Outlaw is defacto always better

[gusty mirage]

blade flurry existing will always make it the better key choice

either fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your views on the pirates

[next edge]

Also they have BF to 8 targets not

and Precissing Cuts

it's a super-strong AoE node I think

[gusty mirage]

that entire side of their spec tree is strong

[next edge]

The fact that you can have the same tree for AoE and ST (maybe changing 1-2 points or so) makes Outlaw really good if tuning is equal or similar to the other 2 specs

[next edge]

Have you seen the new Ambush build

seems pretty pog

[gusty mirage]

no

[royal lantern]

leme gues

[gusty mirage]

I don't play outlaw unless I absolutely have to

[royal lantern]

you use ambush often

[next edge]

5Head as usual

[royal lantern]

ikr

[gusty mirage]

not a fan of the spec

tbh

[next edge]

I don't mind outlaw

I like assa more but I find a lot of fun on Outlaw too

[gusty mirage]

if I can play any other spec for keys, I will

[wanton depot]

outlaw is fun if you wanna sweat, high apm asf

[next edge]

My main concern with Assa right now is button bloat

which is leaning me a bit towards outlaw tbh

[royal lantern]

my problem with outlaw is literally that i cant play it for more then 30min without getting serious wrist pain

CTS sucks HARD

[gusty mirage]

so does quake's mom

[royal lantern]

oh, and the gameplay is an abomination

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire

[subtle tundra]

It's pretty fine in m+ with ic and kb

You don't take tea and sbs

[hollow river]

There’s just as many buttons on outlaw

[next edge]

I don't think so tbh

[gusty mirage]

people keep saying that

and complaining about keybinds on sin

and I don't see it

[hollow river]

Me neither

[next edge]

I mean I will get used to it

[royal lantern]

different playerbase i gues

[gusty mirage]

people forget truly how many extra buttons we got in SL

or they just don't use the cov ability ever ig

[next edge]

I have a lot of keybindings free

[royal lantern]

i did not, i will NEVER forgive blizzard for bringing back SnD

[next edge]

Just wondering If have KB on 6 or Shift Q

im an overthinker

[gusty mirage]

why does everyone hate SnD

I don't get it

it's literally just free damage lmao

[hollow river]

I don’t care for it honestly, buts it’s not a big deal either

[gusty mirage]

and w/ recuperate its free passive healing

[next edge]

I will need 1-2 weeks to get used to all new bindings and such

a bit of a boomer

[hollow river]

It’s just a bit boring of an ability I guess

[gusty mirage]

the fact that we're complaining about snd after 2 years of playing it, and almost 2 years of having it be hit once and extended infinite times

is wild

[hollow river]

Maintain this for faster auto attacks. Yay

[gusty mirage]

I mean

is it better than not having it?

[next edge]

I dont see an issue with SnD

specially as Sin

[hollow river]

For sin it really doesn’t matter

[next edge]

you use it once? in the entire fight

[gusty mirage]

yes it does

especially with kingsbane

poison application matters

[next edge]

It's just free dmg

and you press once and never do again

[gusty mirage]

faster auto attacks = more poison applications

[hollow river]

I’m saying the maintenance doesn’t really matter. Bruh

[rustic laurel]

Hows the apm for assassin?

[spice spire]

Bitch ur tryna make me act up in the holy month of November I s2g

[hollow river]

You going off

[rustic laurel]

I am getting pretty bad wrist pain with outlaw and sub lol

[gusty mirage]

higher than normal, lower than both iirc

[wanton depot]

Might suggest a different class

[gusty mirage]

then I'll go back to the question I asked the dude last night, would you prefer we go back to hard casting it?

[next edge]

If you get wrist pain playing sub

[subtle tundra]

It's not free damage? You cant look at it like that. If they removed it the spec would have to get rebalanced. You have to look at it from a gameplay perspective

[next edge]

you might have an issue with your wrist

and not the class

[hollow river]

I don’t mean damage wise Oxi. I mean button presses

Y u so mean 😢

[subtle tundra]

Literally flawed thinking process about spec design

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

okay then, what's the gameplay implication of having snd be there

vs it not being there

[subtle tundra]

In m+ and aoe it's definetly something you actively have to think about

It wasn't that big of a deal in sl cause ct wasn't so strong but without pb you don't really want to envenom in aoe

[gusty mirage]

you don't?

if snd was removed

and thus cttc too

you'd get 0 benefit out of envenoming in aoe?

[subtle tundra]

Didn't say that

I said ct was better

[gusty mirage]

okay, so let's assume snd was removed

would you ever envenom in aoe? at all?

[subtle tundra]

Fking lawyer with lawyer wordings

And finding loops

[grim tangle]

I don't like the type of damage SnD gives me, I don't want my damage to come from autoattacks

[subtle tundra]

Nah im never going to court

[strange python]

Any thoughts on removing garrote and rupture guys

[wide hemlock]

poison bomb feels alot better. were there changes? it slaps

[gusty mirage]

I get what you're saying varas, I really do

[strange python]

I don’t like keeping up dots

[gusty mirage]

you don't want to feel compelled to envenom in aoe

and that's fair

because it doesn't fucking do anything except increase poison application temporarily

[subtle tundra]

And give snd which dropping is bad

[gusty mirage]

yea

[subtle tundra]

I have had plenty of times in beta m+ where I dropped it or almost did

And had to panick envenom to keep it

[strange python]

You had to maintain a buff on a maintenance spec

That sounds sick

[gusty mirage]

don't you guys have a symbols of death issue to sort out?

leave the boomer spec to do boomer things

[strange python]

Nah idc ill play whatever

[gusty mirage]

argue over dots

[strange python]

I just like trolling snd haters

[gusty mirage]

make sub good again pls

so I don't have to ever play outlaw

ty

[strange python]

Lets revert to wrath actually where the only thing we maintain is hunger for blood lmao

[royal lantern]

it means i can press sinester strike dispatch more often?

[strange python]

And then fan just does a lot of damage and your spec is the dumbest thing ever

[gusty mirage]

oh god

[strange python]

Go into aoe and press fan x100

[royal lantern]

mut mut envenom->top dps

peak wrath class desing

[gusty mirage]

assassination in bfa w/ echoing blades gameplay

[strange python]

Yep

Except even then you needed to put some bleeds up for energy

[gusty mirage]

hfb was cool though

but we technically have that

scent of blood

[strange python]

Hfb is like the most basic ass maintenance thing there ever was lol

Press button every minute do more damage pog

[gusty mirage]

any 1cp rupture gamers in chat?

[strange python]

Ye not having warrior is cringe

[uncut echo]

1cp rupture

For lyfe

[strange python]

Need deep wounds bot in your raid so your opener doesnt feel ass

[oblique tangle]

Me but it's animacharged

[gusty mirage]

the man's cheating

he's getting an anima charged point on the 1st cp

[subtle tundra]

Sub players can go play their 1 shadow dance build

[oblique tangle]

🙃

[gusty mirage]

bro what a wild timeline this alpha/beta cycle has been

holy

assassination can't escape exsang

sub goes back to 1 dance

symbols seemingly meaningless

meanwhile outlaw is literally

[subtle tundra]

Outlaw still exists

[royal lantern]

the cursed timeline

[gusty mirage]

and then they complain about no burst

after crying that they had empty globals before

[subtle tundra]

Tbf they need to revert bf to 50

[gusty mirage]

outlaw rogues are the boomkins of our class

[lavish hazel]

Flag db is a huge burst its delusional to say no

[gusty mirage]

that's what I'm saying

but flag db does go away

so maybe the crying is justified

[subtle tundra]

And tune down feral dh ww and whatever else is busted

[gusty mirage]

so

[lavish hazel]

Outlaw looks great even with ER

[gusty mirage]

boomkin prolly still needs another nerf tbh

[lavish hazel]

No burst yeah but insane constant dmg

[subtle tundra]

Nah the one I played with was doing 50k overalls when I was doing 70k

[gusty mirage]

yea that's kinda what happens when you have no empty globals

just constant damage

little room for burst

[oblique tangle]

Killing spree should be baseline for all rogue specs because it's my favourite ability

[gusty mirage]

killing spree is a shell of its former self

[royal lantern]

[spare crow]

[lavish hazel]

Ks is a suicide angle spell

[oblique tangle]

Don't remind me :(

[gusty mirage]

I feel like KS used to make you immune during the animation

but it's been like

14 years so I don't remember

[spare crow]

nah

[lavish hazel]

It definitly does not

[oblique tangle]

Just be good instead

[spare crow]

full suicide mode

[gusty mirage]

last time I played it was 2008

so

[lavish hazel]

Wotlk deathbringer full arpen

Cool kid dashing

[gusty mirage]

[white temple]

Slash off Crimson vial and put recup back as a button

[gusty mirage]

oh right back then there wasn't 123873421947329847983289 ground effects

[lavish hazel]

Big taunka killing spree

[gusty mirage]

so KS was safe

[lavish hazel]

Yeah actually ks is hard to use

Press cos 1/2 ks

[gusty mirage]

[subtle tundra]

Well assa m+ tuning is kinda bottlenecked by our st rn.The only things they can buff are fok nodes and sob

[spare crow]

Until it brought aggro to u cause your tank sucked dick

and u just die

[lavish hazel]

But at least tricks was a buff 🤣

[oblique tangle]

Wow no tricks? Bad.

[spare crow]

tricks was not there prior to wotlk no?

when ks was meta

[gusty mirage]

remember when tricks increased your damage so you'd always have a rogue friend and you'd tricks each other?

[lavish hazel]

It was I think

[lavish hazel]

Same for focus magic as mage

[spice spire]

Mfs complain about no burst, my brother in Christ, you burst on your keyboard to play the spec

[oblique tangle]

And the third rogue would trick the healer? Yes

[spare crow]

i am pretty sure tricks got introduced in wotlk

[lavish hazel]

AHAHAHHA

[gusty mirage]

ye it did

[white temple]

@gusty mirage I'm kinda late but have a question: why wouldn't you use envenom (despite cttc) in aoe given it also helps proc more poison?

[spare crow]

so ks was miserable in classic/tbc to use if your tank sucked dick

[white temple]

Legit, no trolling

[spare crow]

and it was meta

💀

[gusty mirage]

because without the added effects, it makes envenom less valuable in aoe situations

like even with the added effects, without the need to maintain snd envenom falls pretty low on the priority list

[white temple]

Even if it makes you proc more poison all around

[gusty mirage]

it for sure adds benefits even when you don't need to refresh snd, right?

but it's less impactful than reupping a rupture, or reapplying CT

[white temple]

Like, you use it every 6-7s, you're not rupping more than 5 targets I think, CT is like 16s or something on pandemic

Theres no window to keep env up?

[gusty mirage]

ye there will be for sure

well, I guess that depends on if whispyr's CT "spam" apl ends up panning out

[white temple]

And it helps on aoe

Well, thanks for the bit of info

[subtle tundra]

Well

Ct spamming is a bit of a thing

🥺

[white temple]

And they should add recup using cp back as a button.

[gusty mirage]

but you're right there is some benefit for envenoming in aoe

it's just less important than needing to put up another rupture or maintain CT for example

[gusty mirage]

it'd be the perfect ending to this timeline

everything's getting flipped on its head

[spice spire]

Stop pls

Stop the count

[gusty mirage]

no, if I have to play exsang

[white temple]

It'll end up being a copy of sub

[subtle tundra]

Ct instant dmg buff less go

[gusty mirage]

you will CT spam and like it

[white temple]

With a dirty ass dot attached

[spice spire]

No man

[gusty mirage]

[oblique tangle]

Mmmmm ass dots

[subtle tundra]

I mean you still have kb and exsang'd target to reapply bleeds on sooner than others

[white temple]

I dunno who said, but

IC+Exsang WHEN

[subtle tundra]

You don't ct spam for the whole pull

[vestal wren]

wait, is that actually a thing now?

[gusty mirage]

bro, in 2 weeks

don't you worry

[subtle tundra]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

it was looking like it, until poison bomb ruined everything

[vestal wren]

haha

[white temple]

Poison bomb shouldn't exist

[subtle tundra]

Pb isn't a thing anymore tho

[vestal wren]

solution: don't spec into PB

[oblique tangle]

Simply don't spec poison b

Yeah that

[white temple]

Together with outlaw

[oblique tangle]

:^)

[gusty mirage]

which mean.... WE'RE BACK BABy

@spice spire

PREPARE THAT CT BUTTON BUDDY

bind it to a foot pedal

idgaf

[vestal wren]

nice

[gusty mirage]

truly the most cursed of timelines

coming to fruition

[subtle tundra]

And you ic exsang dm kb shiv spam ct 2-3 times

[oblique tangle]

Wait that's actually genius

[vestal wren]

so you can now get raided by #outlaw ppl spamming the spinning pepe emote

fok-ct-fok-ct

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

nice aoe rotation

[gusty mirage]

still an upgrade over echoing blades rotation of: fok -> fok -> fok -> Fok -> rupture cause one fell off -> fok -> fok -> fok

[oblique tangle]

Meanwhile unholy dk...

[subtle tundra]

Its not just ct spam though stop oversimplyfing 😦

[vestal wren]

haha true

[subtle tundra]

And you can do it only for ic window

[gusty mirage]

anything that makes the pirates mald is very good

[white temple]

Aids + covid

[spice spire]

You’re a mental terrorist

[gusty mirage]

never forget guy's mental breakdown when he had to play sub in seppy prog

never seen a mfer more angry in my life

[oblique tangle]

Unironically I always hated aoe because it was boring as fuck and I had no idea other classes were actually fun to aoe with

[spice spire]

You playing Exsang checkmate

[gusty mirage]

buddy I played it all of season 3 and 4

wdym

[spice spire]

Malding the entire time

That’s why oxibald

[gusty mirage]

shut up warrior main

go zug zug into some mechanics and die

[spice spire]

Yes sir

[uncut echo]

Execute uwu

[shrewd night]

Why did I get pinged here?

[gusty mirage]

was it an auto filtered thing by moroes? cause I didn't see nuthin

[uncut echo]

I pinged you last night?

When we had the raging racist guy

[spice spire]

Fuu impersonator

[subtle tundra]

huh

[spice spire]

It was dealt with x3

[shrewd night]

weird

All my notifications were gone when I left work, when I come home there was one here

[grand reef]

Will assa rog be viable on df m+?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[spice spire]

@subtle tundra

[spice spire]

Unless it was a random ghost ping, nah that’s the only one I saw

[subtle tundra]

omg rude in outlaw? couldnt've been me

[spice spire]

Yeah you don’t harass people in DMs tho

[subtle tundra]

i respect those fellas

[spice spire]

Over random nonsense

[subtle tundra]

yea i dont

unless?

[spice spire]

[verbal knot]

could sound tryhardish but does anyone have an optimized opener for me to test on beta

for single target

[spice spire]

Here

Is pretty much it @verbal knot

[verbal knot]

oh thanks

[spice spire]

np gl

[near valley]

2 button aoe rotation? This is the rogue class i came to play

[spice spire]

No man

[near valley]

sad

[spice spire]

Sub is your two button gaming

[near valley]

atleast tell me i get to press exsanguinate in aoe

Sub lmao

[spice spire]

(It’s not even that anymore)

You do

[near valley]

all is right in the world then

[gusty mirage]

not only do you get to, you're encouraged to

[subtle tundra]

you shiv, dm, exsang, kb

[near valley]

stop, i can only get so excited

also i'm going to go on a limb and assume that the wording on exsanguinate means it only works on a singular target

[spice spire]

Yes

[near valley]

god what a stupid ability

stupid FUN i mean

[spice spire]

[shrewd night]

[near valley]

would it be more well recieved if it just worked like unholy plaguebringer talent where u just press a spender to make all ur bleeds tick faster for x amount of seconds?

[uncut echo]

No

Unholy diseases just get applied for free

That'd be horrible

[verbal knot]

Asides from the opener are there things that we need to line up together or do we just press everything on cd

[oblique tangle]

NGL it kinda sucks that Subterfuge doesn't work with things like Iron Wire

[verbal knot]

more specifically exsang kingsbane and deathmark

[spice spire]

Press it on cd

[verbal knot]

cool

[stiff geyser]

Yeah AOE feels weird on this class without carnage but I still like it 🥰

[spice spire]

It’s the same aoe we had, just with Exsang. You get used to it

[subtle tundra]

aoe a.k.a. ST a lot

[stiff geyser]

I’m too lazy so I just spam tempest

Feel free to kick me

[subtle tundra]

🫡

[spice spire]

No kick

[stiff geyser]

I have no idea what happened in a fight yesterday but I was spamming tempest instead of worrying about bleed management and my dps jumped

[spice spire]

Just question

[stiff geyser]

Very significantly

[subtle tundra]

well you have to understand the balance between rupturing and ct

[stiff geyser]

I understand nothing except make bad guy bleed = damage goes up

Seriously though I’m glad I gave the spec a try. Was considering rolling DH but the rotation is kinda zzzzzzzzzzz

[oblique tangle]

Yo I'm pretty dense, is there a way for swapping talents to also swap your action bars?

I can't seem to find it

[gusty mirage]

talent sets do that

if you save it as a talent set it should auto swap your buttons and stuff

actually that might just be by spec

[oblique tangle]

See that's what I thought but when I swap from one to the other II still have FoK in the first spot instead of the second and CT shows up instead of not showing up :(

I think it's per-spec

Disaster.

This is my punishment for wanting cleaner action bars

[gusty mirage]

blizzard UI improvements and untapped potential, name a more iconic duo

there's an addon that saves button layouts, but I'm not sure if it'll work with the new action bars

used to use it to copy over binds & AB placement stuff to tourny realm

[near valley]

damn. didn't have to shut my dreams down like that

[spice spire]

That’s what the homie does

[oblique tangle]

@gusty mirage you'll never guess what just decided to randomly fucking work the way I wanted it to

[uncut echo]

🥰

Got u bb

I think I gotta go dh for raid

[spice spire]

Now that’s cursed

[near valley]

enjoying sinful brand while u can

[subtle tundra]

l o s e r

[oblique tangle]

Have you seen DH's do any of that content that transforms your character into a human?

[spice spire]

[oblique tangle]

That's cursed.

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

I’ve never seen a human dh.
Only bots

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/blackpink-lalisa-lisa-manoban-jennie-gif-18777303

[spice spire]

@bleak sky

[uncut echo]

Tanking keys cuz my friends are bots

[oblique tangle]

xddddd

[gusty mirage]

damn beat me to it

[uncut echo]

So i need raid gear

:(

[gusty mirage]

I gotchu fam

wait

NA or EU

[spice spire]

Brother if there’s a chance to flame my favorite dh, I’m gonna do it

[gusty mirage]

okay but what does minalba have to do with oximeta?

???

[near valley]

lmao imagine tanking

[spice spire]

Ur not a dh main? Brother?

[near valley]

brought to you by someone forced to roll bloodk dk

[gusty mirage]

you said favorite DH?

[spice spire]

Fine favorite dh main

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Let him have something

He lives in Brazil he needs something man

[gusty kestrel]

rough life

[near valley]

Depresscito

[uncut echo]

It's fine, I'll pop off

[spice spire]

He wants to move to America. That’s how you know it’s down cataclysmic

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-my-neighbors-eddie-murphy-arsenio-hall-semmi-prince-akeem-gif-19322492

[near valley]

btw i heard that i if i beat someone of higher rank than me in this discord, in a 1v1, i get their rank

[odd heath]

Tough life here bro lol

[oblique tangle]

wtf am I looking at

+6 agi with a 2-set bonus of +215 agi

[near valley]

sounds about right

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

isn't that the honor gear from vanilla?

[oblique tangle]

Yes but my point stands, wtf.

[near valley]

thought the same

would make sense if it is classic gear

[gusty mirage]

it used to increase attack power for the 2pc

but blizzard moved away from that

so it's prolly just a weird scaling thing

[oblique tangle]

Bruh lol and tyhe wrath pvp shit 2-set is +34 agi

What is going ON

[west cove]

hey all, are there any good rogue peeps I can watch on youtube?

[gusty kestrel]

legacy sets and you care about their balance

you seem very bored

[gusty mirage]

depends on what kind of content you're looking for

[viscid spear]

Sharing is caring

[bleak sky]

I'm gigachad dh

[viscid spear]

Oxymoron

[spice spire]

Still a bot tho

[gusty mirage]

Zeratule's channel is good for general content https://www.youtube.com/@TheRedRogue and he even hangs around RH

[west cove]

hmm tough question i guess some dungeon/raids and guides just generally informative and good to watch?

[spice spire]

Source: I ran a junkyard with you

[viscid spear]

[ebon notch]

Wtf

Toxic

[spice spire]

??

[gusty kestrel]

oh the bot talks again

[viscid spear]

tbf there's a lot of bots in there already

[bleak sky]

I'm a fiend

[spice spire]

Brother if you saw this man’s NPC routing you’d agree

[bleak sky]

Next season I'm rank 1 io global

[spice spire]

We wiped on the jump through, not his fault

[ebon notch]

What level was it

[spice spire]

We cleared the road, but instead of just walking six feet, this man loops around the entire map to get there

3 times

[bleak sky]

Idk, 20 something?

[spice spire]

Like a garbage 19 or some shit

It was a guild key that needed a tank

[gusty mirage]

as for raid/dungeon stuff, typically your best bet is to try to find povs from people's kills. @sand sigil usually throws some POVs on his youtube channel, his sylv kill helped me figure out my timings before I did the boss

[spice spire]

His tanking was not the issueb

But him looping around on 3 separate attempts when it’s a six feet run was hilarious to me

[ebon notch]

You gotta provide a route then broski

[viscid spear]

I need to push higher keys
I only do 16s and 17s

[spice spire]

Nah route was fine

[gusty mirage]

nah W key, don't be a pussy

[spice spire]

One part was weird

But if I and the dk didn’t chimp it would have been fine

[oblique tangle]

Me: "Hey this is weird"
You: "He must clearly care about outdated gear balance"

No, man.

[ebon notch]

Whenever I start a junkyard and I see the tank go right

[oblique tangle]

It's just funny

[ebon notch]

I immediately want to leave

[gusty mirage]

why

going right is perfectly fine?

[gusty kestrel]

clearly cant stop laughing

thats how funny it is

[ebon notch]

Cause they're almost always unfamiliar with the routing

[oblique tangle]

Damn guess you didn't find the same thing funny as I did. Call the press humour is subjective

[gusty mirage]

buddy

if the robot aint flying over king gabba gabba

I go right

and I've done more junkyards than you've had jerk sessions in your life

[spice spire]

King who?

[gusty mirage]

fight me

right now

[spice spire]

Brother?

[ebon notch]

Going left gets you like 20 bots

[viscid spear]

Yo Gabba Gabba

[gusty mirage]

going right gets you like 20 bots?

[oblique tangle]

Wow wow don't make a statement like that, he's probably never touched grass before in his life

[ebon notch]

Right is viable too for sure

[oblique tangle]

You don't know what you're getting yourself into

[ebon notch]

I'm just saying I've seen a correlation

[gusty mirage]

going left is cringe

especially with a pug

because someone inevitably ass pulls the dogs

[spice spire]

You don’t know how many times this man has ran junkyard

[gusty mirage]

and then you end up having to kill trash you don't need

[ebon notch]

I've run a few myself fam

[spice spire]

That was @ vausk

[gusty mirage]

quiet SL baby

[near valley]

going right is for the weak

[subtle tundra]

[near valley]

heading directly to the zone with the peacekeeper is where it's at

[ebon notch]

Ur just a regular baby

[oblique tangle]

You don't know how many times a day this man jerks his meat

👀

[ebon notch]

[gusty mirage]

ty

[gusty kestrel]

crazy discussion

[spice spire]

Yes I do

[gusty mirage]

Tisu

[ebon notch]

Suck my ass

[gusty mirage]

tell me to quit wow

[oblique tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[gusty mirage]

so I don't have to deal with dollar store cev over here

[ebon notch]

Wtf

[spice spire]

[oblique tangle]

Tisu

tell me a joke

[uncut echo]

Y'all need to chill

[gusty kestrel]

you dont have to regardless

[oblique tangle]

So I can judge how funny you are

[spice spire]

No man

[ebon notch]

And now Zac is here

[gusty kestrel]

just mute spec channels

[midnight mist]

Hello daps

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-ten-thinking-gif-9528459

[ebon notch]

@midnight mist

[midnight mist]

Caught me

[oblique tangle]

I said what I said

[near valley]

the assassination on this channel stands for character assassination

[midnight mist]

Was just chilling reading off topic aka sin channel

[spice spire]

Greetings and salutations mister Zac

[gusty kestrel]

and what benefit would i have from that

[spice spire]

Hope you’re having a glorious day

[gusty kestrel]

showing some absolute random if im funny or not

[oblique tangle]

Yikes, cringe.

[midnight mist]

Hello master quaker

[oblique tangle]

0/10 not very funny

[viscid spear]

You is what you is, and you jizz

[ebon notch]

@spice spire I think it's time for a name change

[oblique tangle]

Better luck next time Tisu

[ebon notch]

Oxi hurt me too bad

[spice spire]

@ebon notch

[ebon notch]

Oh god

[oblique tangle]

Now if you don't mind, I'm going to sit outside of Orgrimmar and kill people after they lose duels, because that's hilarious.

[spice spire]

Glhf

[gusty kestrel]

didnt ask

[oblique tangle]

who

[viscid spear]

[ebon notch]

Can you guys stop ruining our shitposting pls

[viscid spear]

Full moon today on RH

[gusty kestrel]

@gusty mirage not sure if dasp is really that bad

if i see what else is in here

[oblique tangle]

shitpost over it like a chad

[ebon notch]

Lmao

Finally a compliment from tisu

[spice spire]

Enjoy it while you can buddy

[ebon notch]

Bucket list ticked off

[spice spire]

Because that’s the crumb

[ebon notch]

This dopamine hit will carry me to release

[oblique tangle]

@gusty mirage guess you're gonna have to run another junkyard

[spice spire]

Videos and gifs go in #off-topic

Deleting that

[uncut echo]

Mod abuse

Triggered

[viscid spear]

[ebon notch]

Nah that's the first time he's done his job in a while

Don't discourage him

@spice spire

[uncut echo]

It's not a job lmaoooo

[oblique tangle]

Every time you perform a mod action that neckbeard gets a little thicker :(

[ebon notch]

He gets paid the big bucks bro

This is a premium server

[uncut echo]

Premium

[oblique tangle]

Damn, not even Riot paid their mods

[uncut echo]

More like premierely shit

:>

[spice spire]

Good I had to shave on October 31st so it still hasn’t regrown in

Not so much neck, just beard

[uncut echo]

Before the fire nation attacked I had a dope moustache

[spice spire]

I look weird without one

[near valley]

no neck?

[oblique tangle]

It's too late, I'm imagining a bunch of ears where your neck should be

[spice spire]

I’m sorry

[ebon notch]

Bruh I'm gonna be clean shaven soon

[oblique tangle]

and now I'm traumatized

[ebon notch]

Gonna be weird

[viscid spear]

[oblique tangle]

Almost more than that time Tisu said I wasn't funny

[viscid spear]

I bankroll some of it

[ebon notch]

No more random hair in my mouth and food

[oblique tangle]

Chills.

[wary ice]

why go on living?

[near valley]

shedding in ur food adds to the flavor

[midnight mist]

Will need a stream after the shave pls

[uncut echo]

Aight I'm leaving this server

[oak sky]

Rip dabeardman

[ebon notch]

Will get haircut also

Otherwise I look like a mushroom

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Having cats means everything has that added touch

[midnight mist]

haircuts

[spice spire]

Fotmcleanshaven

[near valley]

no. don't do it.

[uncut echo]

You'll barely notice me gone

[royal lantern]

what a cursed day to have eyes

🙂

[near valley]

never noticed u were even here

[uncut echo]

Thid shit is cursed

[ebon notch]

Takes like 1.5 hours it's too dense

[spice spire]

Prepatch buddy.
We’re closing in to normal times ahead

[ebon notch]

You should've seen outlaw pre buffs

Literally a wasteland

[spice spire]

[uncut echo]

Outlul

utlaw

[midnight mist]

[ebon notch]

But assa was like 3x more populated

Was a fun time

[spice spire]

Assassination main Tomelvis

[midnight mist]

I have 1 sin log in sotfo i think

[near valley]

outlaw superior rogue

is what i would used to say

[midnight mist]

I might have no sin logs at all in sod

[oak sky]

I have 1 outlaw log

[midnight mist]

So yeah

[ebon notch]

I have 0 outlaw prepatch logs

[spice spire]

Assassination main it is

[ebon notch]

I have 0 rogue logs even

[near valley]

pre-patch outlaw is a crime

[oak sky]

I have 0 preparch logs

[midnight mist]

love sin

[oak sky]

[uncut echo]

Ive only played outlul in prepatch

[near valley]

apm is too high for my long fingers

[ebon notch]

Sin was a lot of fun in season 3

Playing sin on jailer was probably the most fun I've had playing this game

[odd heath]

It was

[spice spire]

You got a second dagger homie wtf

[near valley]

didn't know sin was played in s3

[spice spire]

Yes man

[midnight mist]

Sin was only fun when sin mains hated it

[ebon notch]

The level of minmaxing available was just nut worthy

[spice spire]

I saw that correction mister fotm

[viscid spear]

I have 0 Outlaw and Sub

[ebon notch]

Ty

[odd heath]

I liked halondrus and Rygelon as Sin

[spice spire]

You had some sub

[ebon notch]

Every 2nd or 3rd global could be minmaxed cause of how packed that fight was

[ebon notch]

Rygelon required some fucked optimisations though lmao

[viscid spear]

I was sub as Sub, so I subbed out of Sub

[royal lantern]

found the bottom

[spice spire]

[near valley]

poetic genius

[odd heath]

Yes lol.. if you got the debuff during vendetta, it was a very greedy time lol

[viscid spear]

Then I went back to sinning and now I'm a frosty boi

[spice spire]

[oak sky]

Every rygelon pull was me begging to not get certain sets

Good times

[near valley]

this entire channel is filled with sinners

[ebon notch]

You had to pool cp at the end of the down phase and insta step back

So you could get proper overhang

[spice spire]

Getting set in the opener is my favorite

[hardy dagger]

assa jailer prog was peak shadowlands for me

[near valley]

[ebon notch]

It was legit 1 global window

And if you missed it you were fucked

[odd heath]

Missing overhangs hurted so much

But part of the fun min max lol

[ebon notch]

I'm just lucky I didn't fuck the step and send everyone flying

Also I think 4th set of CDs was during intermission

[odd heath]

And yeah, jailer was really nice to prog also. So much space to minmax

[ebon notch]

And I was struggling to get uptime

While soaking

[odd heath]

It was

[ebon notch]

Got my resto druid to roar on pull so I could save sprint to get back from down phase

[oak sky]

You sprint pull?

[midnight mist]

Just play outlaw xdd

[odd heath]

I think the 4th flag was on the middle of intermission, finishing the overhang at the end of it

[ebon notch]

If you wanted to minimise downtime after you got first debuff you needed step and sprint

[spice spire]

???????

[odd heath]

So you had like, soak time, debuff and go far time, while dpsing

[ebon notch]

But boss moved super far on pull and you didn't want to miss globals

[oak sky]

I think you only lost 1 global during first set

[ebon notch]

So I got druid to roar us so I could stick to it

[near valley]

best advice one could give

[spice spire]

No man

[oak sky]

Or you just use it on ct

And time it

[near valley]

can't imagine doing jailer prog as a dps

[midnight mist]

?? I have infinite fast, what are you nerds talking about roars and optimisings steps

[ebon notch]

@midnight mist did you see loktarks log from rygelon as outlaw?

[midnight mist]

No

[ebon notch]

He was almost beaten by the tank

[midnight mist]

[near valley]

was the tank bdk?

[ebon notch]

He was the first outlaw to kill it I think

[oak sky]

There were just some bad bomb sets it wasnt that awful

[midnight mist]

I mean he died or something

[spice spire]

“Where’s my burst” mf the burst is what you did on the keyboard

[ebon notch]

Use what

[spice spire]

[near valley]

lmao

[ebon notch]

This was pre buff

On prog

[oak sky]

Your global leaving boss to get your puddle

[ebon notch]

No not the puddle

Going to the core

[odd heath]

Outlaw pre buff was like sin 9.0 levels of bad lol

[midnight mist]

Why would you want burst just to get fucked by every mechanics xdd

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[near valley]

just played tank so i never knew the pain

[midnight mist]

I did some rygelon prog before buffs, he was dead

There is no way you are behind tank

[ebon notch]

Cause you had to dot the core up and then build back up cp for the boss to fit into overhang

[midnight mist]

Even before buffs I was convinced outlaw was the better spec on there

[near valley]

remember when people were saying that the outlaw buffs were still bad and that blade flurry should be uncapped

[ebon notch]

You had to garrote asap after going down so it was back up

[ebon notch]

Nah cope

[near valley]

wish they pulled that ripcord

uncap blade flurry ty

[midnight mist]

Mfd brotherman

[ebon notch]

Yeah assa has MFD too

[midnight mist]

They don't know how to use it

[odd heath]

Bro, #assassination is too yellow today wtf

[ebon notch]

Hahahaha

[midnight mist]

I bet sin ppl don't even know mfd reset on mob death

[near valley]

not enough actual sin enjoyers

[next edge]

Colour name = spec you play yeah haha xd

[near valley]

feels bad

clearly outlaw is the superior spec

[odd heath]

Bro

Mouseover MFD on low hp targets ftw

[midnight mist]

? Don't bro me it's true

Sin ppl played mfd for the first time of their life in s3 and cried whole tier that they had one more bind

[near valley]

lmao

[midnight mist]

No way you guys knowns it reset on death

[placid adder]

😂

[odd heath]

I play the 3 specs tbh lol, been playing only outlaw on prepatch

[midnight mist]

Never entered a m+ as sin in ur life even the one tricks

[near valley]

Subtlety channel is a lot more friendly than the other two

[ebon notch]

bro they played it in sod also

[near valley]

don't know if that is by choice or because blizzard pacified any fight they had within them

[ebon notch]

smh these some ballsy statements from u fam

ill fight you

[spice spire]

That’s a lie

[midnight mist]

No I never lie

[violet jackal]

can confirm it's a lie

[spice spire]

I’ve not done a single non-sin key as a rogue

[violet jackal]

same

[ebon notch]

when was the last time you did a key

[violet jackal]

2 days ago?

[spice spire]

Probably around the last time I raided

A month ago

[midnight mist]

15s don't count

[spice spire]

Bro wtf I’ve been coasting since s2 because of life, chill

[violet jackal]

I've done 20+ assassination only

[odd heath]

Last time I really pushed as sin was bfa

[spice spire]

But also yeah I’d do 20+ as assassin any day

It’s fun

[midnight mist]

Not 5kio wtf ???

[gusty kestrel]

can i assassinate you quake

[ebon notch]

my assa claim to fame was when i got james to try out assa in plaguefall

and he zoomed

thats how i got vip

[gusty mirage]

who

[midnight mist]

Why did you do that

Poor man

[ebon notch]

oh no

oxi is here

[oak sky]

True who is james

[spice spire]

Please

[ebon notch]

nobody

dw about it

[gusty mirage]

perf

[midnight mist]

Hello mister bald

[gusty mirage]

hello mr. real TCer for outlaw

[midnight mist]

How you been today

[gusty mirage]

[gusty kestrel]

ill make sure it doesnt hurt ok

[gusty mirage]

I'm doing alright

my client told me to tell opposing counsel to essentially go fuck themselves

[oak sky]

Oh goody

[gusty mirage]

"Tell them I'm not doing in person mediation, virtual or court their choice"

me: 🤑

[ebon notch]

thats good shit

[subtle tundra]

lawyer talk dont work on everyone

certainly doesnt on me

[spice spire]

Ty papi

[gusty mirage]

what about smooth talk?

[oak sky]

Easy money?

[gusty mirage]

it's a slam dunk case

their evidence is based on a contract with zero signatures or dates

and it's just their word, my evidence is based on a letter my client sent to the other party, and they accepted the payment amount listed at the end of that letter

making it a binding contract

[subtle tundra]

lawyer work

snoozefest

[gusty mirage]

now you'll never get to see me in a suit

I look pretty hot ngl

[oak sky]

Im gonna go commit a crime in michigan!

[ebon notch]

Another slam dunk case

Easy money

[gusty mirage]

I don't do criminal law

so good luck

[near valley]

Look at Mr Phoenix Wright over here

[oak sky]

Im gonna go immigrate to michigan

[gusty mirage]

we did just beat the red wave

[spice spire]

Trickle

[gusty mirage]

ill trickle on you buddy

say I won't

[spice spire]

Brother?

You won’t

[gusty mirage]

[subtle tundra]

[near valley]

in my head i got red wave confused thinking u were talking bout doritos heat wave

[oak sky]

My district voted a republican for the house again!

[gusty mirage]

now I want doritos

[subtle tundra]

what the fuck is a red wave

like covid?

covid is over. no more.

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire @cerulean walrus thoughts?

[near valley]

treat urself

[gusty mirage]

no I'm getting fat

[royal lantern]

the worst thing you can do: criminal law

[gusty mirage]

worst thing you can do is actually family law

[near valley]

getting fat is tmrw yous problem

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

[royal lantern]

fastest way to lose your hope in humanity

[near valley]

heard family law is rough

[teal bloom]

worst thing you can do is Outlaw

[subtle tundra]

lawyer doings again. what the fuck is a red wave

[gusty mirage]

american political term

[royal lantern]

worst thing you can do is not deleting exsang

[gusty mirage]

wouldn't worry too much about it

[near valley]

[gusty mirage]

ye seen some fucked up shit when my former business partner had those cases

saw shit that would make the criminal stuff look like a walk in the park

[near valley]

some people can do some pretty heinous things when children are involved

[royal lantern]

let use a minor for psychological warfare out of spite

that will surely not fuck the innocent child up 🙂

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

[onyx wind]

what cds are worth lining up?

spam exsang on cd or hold for DM? always save both shivs for KB?

[oak sky]

Shiv with kingsbane

[next edge]

DM is 2 mins