didn’t like
#outlaw
proven ocean
no i think
magnus beat a grand champion when he was a child
ye he beat a grandmaster when he was 12
wtf
dim parrot
Guys title so high already how tf do people push so much
I get on and time 1 key like every couple days maybe
But I play lots I think
dim parrot
LFG simulator bro
normal hawk
You time more than one key every couple of days
dim parrot
Need AA before I wanna do my own key rn
But title is already like resi 21
Idk how awang does it
rose granite
Idk how awang does it
wangbar!
normal hawk
Isn’t it top 1%
languid kestrel
no title is .1
dim parrot
Maybe I just play for the love of the game and pressing my buttons and not the results
Wy guys think?
languid kestrel
nope only score matters
fun is a byproduct that you experience once in a blue moon
proven ocean
@vivid vessel did they add r1 key achievements
proven ocean
Nice
vivid vessel
they were smart with the achiev
you baisclaly needed to hold a r1 key
for a few days
during a week
or smth like taht
languid kestrel
its just timing the region high key level i thought for that dungeon
vivid vessel
like im still not entirely sure how it worked really
proven ocean
Ye not bad
languid kestrel
for that week
proven ocean
How many did u get
vivid vessel
all of them
proven ocean
Ah so its not that bad
vivid vessel
its just timing the region high key level i thought for that dungeon
i dont think so
unless its like
vivid vessel
the highest timed key this week?
languid kestrel
but i had a 21 nxp when there was no 22 nxp in na
languid kestrel
nope
proven ocean
Thats stupid
vivid vessel
ah gg
outer meteor
zac
proven ocean
R1 what then
vivid vessel
idk we were getting them while having r1 keys at the time
outer meteor
is there some tech to not get one shot by leapers on pit
vivid vessel
since the big teams werent playing much still
outer meteor
2nd time i just fall over on 23
vivid vessel
is there some tech to not get one shot by leapers on pit
ye dont get one shot by learpers
proven ocean
Ah
vivid vessel
idk show a clip
proven ocean
R1 in the region i guess?
vivid vessel
ye its region wide
proven ocean
All of them will get it?
vivid vessel
cerulean tiger
dudes, going from Sin to Law is like going from a wheelchair to a lambo, it's so fast
proven ocean
:what:
dim parrot
Guys what’s best way to record a whole key for vod review
proven ocean
Emote not working wtf
dim parrot
Medal is like 10 mins or 20 mins I think
vivid vessel
idk obs no?
proven ocean
Idk
vivid vessel
isnt obs quick to setup
proven ocean
I use steelseries but i think its about the same
Easiest one
But obs is best for long ass footage
dim parrot
Ok 👍
proven ocean
U dont need more than 20 mins anyway
Nobody’s gonna watch a movie of u playing rogue
dim parrot
Yeh but idk maybe skip to certain parts
vivid vessel
ye its good to have a complete key
when i do vod review i like to check certain parts sometimes
that i know he might be doing a specific mistake
or like checking a specific boss defensive usage
vivid vessel
obs is good ye
also i think
its good practice to record your keys
so you can check your mistakes
why you died etc
before i was streaming
i was already streaming
but like for myself
on ytb or whatever
so you can instantly check waht went wrong
dim parrot
Ok ty I do it tonight
soft abyss
Zac is it heavy ? Or do you delete them manually afterwards? I wanna stard doing it but I think of needing to delete etc
dim parrot
Zac I wonder if u roll better between first and second boss of MT if u time that 24
vivid vessel
Zac is it heavy ? Or do you delete them manually afterwards? I wanna stard doing...
well thats the whole reason im streaming online
i was just streaming on ytb unlisted befroe
vivid vessel
Zac I wonder if u roll better between first and second boss of MT if u time that...
ye i mean
i think outlaw rng
can swing a timer
by like 1 min rn
but we also had 2 deaths
which is 30s
and our tank trolled the end idk if you saw
proven ocean
Great design
vivid vessel
ye
first time it happens
had to happen on world first 24 magister
gege
30s depleto ross
vivid vessel
its better but not htat much
soft abyss
I mean is phys damage the same for all ?
vivid vessel
I mean is phys damage the same for all ?
its like a bit under 5% on law
and about 3% for the other specs
dim parrot
and our tank trolled the end idk if you saw
I saw lol
soft abyss
Yeah I was wondering about assa how exactly it works
dim parrot
Assa is bleed damage affected by it
vivid vessel
hallow spoke
think caustic does a lot
soft abyss
Assa is bleed damage affected by it
does spatter benefit from the phys buffs ?
dim parrot
No
vivid vessel
its nature aswell
dim parrot
DH buff
vivid vessel
so no
soft abyss
ah ok
cedar goblet
even with so tricky and using it on tank before first pull, throughout the dungeon i have several pulls where i still rip aggro how is that am i missing something
soft abyss
zeros we can play something more handicapped like 10 sec for me 1 for you or something
dim parrot
even with so tricky and using it on tank before first pull, throughout the dunge...
It’s not
Unless u die or something
dusty magnet
Is the diff between monk/bear buff just 2% or is there some weird math
vivid vessel
ye insane
vivid vessel
Is the diff between monk/bear buff just 2% or is there some weird math
but the further we go into the seasons
the more vers we will have
so druid buff will start losing value
frail veldt
Ye br slaps a huge mastery proc chance
gaunt phoenix
Next tier ill probably just put a sample Spire route in faq
vivid vessel
no spire next tier 
gaunt phoenix
oh...
gaunt phoenix
yeah, maybe it being not a real route is a good thing
just a made up scenario for evaluation
soft abyss
but why does tank pull like this
vivid vessel
spire actually has every damage profile
soft abyss
I lose dmg
vivid vessel
there is one side with a bunch of small shitters
there is one side with 3/4 targets packs
a duo boss
bosses with packs pulled on top
and a single target boss
its a really good dungeon to do sims with i think
random stirrup
yeah, maybe it being not a real route is a good thing
i wonder why dslice wasnt like this from the start
vivid vessel
like what
gaunt phoenix
Dslice predates Droute by several years
random stirrup
ye
vivid vessel
just simming a good well rounded dungeon route
can maybe be a bit problematic
for cd specs
if its a set route
like we do with dungeon route
say you have a 1min30 cd talent
on a choice node with a 2min cd
and the route you made happen to line up more with one or ther ohter
dslice doesnt have that issue cause its a lot more rng
i think dslice is a bit outdated on some stuffs tho
like it start with a boss
with lust
cause "holding cds and lust for incoming boss"
but nowadays you lust on cd
and you cd on cd
so like
that part is a bit
vivid vessel
too long?
but also ye the way slice is with all the rng parts
its quite long to sim
you couldnt do a 40 min sim fo that
desert tendon
are you scared?
vivid vessel
i dont race randoms sorry
desert tendon
kek
wintry solar
Scared of bigger fish
cursive gyro
You can't out-race Zac. He's the best racist we know.
vivid vessel
frail veldt
Next tier ill probably just put a sample Spire route in faq
That would be sick
I mean ideally hey fix energy next season and we don't have to think so hard about how the spec plays after tea runs out
Buuuuut
frail veldt
Ngl I forgot about housing
unkempt iris
Uhm… decor duel? Come on guys
random stirrup
manic grieftorch
vivid vessel
ty
next thistle
lol
grim spear
Ngl I forgot about housing
housing is supposed to be a new "pillar system"
yet it got zero promotion in midnight's main feature
If they seriously want to push this feature, they should bake housing right into the story
make it the main city of this version
gilded tinsel
im impressed bingus figured out he was talking about grieftorch
frail veldt
housing is supposed to be a new "pillar system"
yet it got zero promotion in mid...
I'm waiting for them to improve the UI and gathering system
I want to save layouts and shit
And not have to leave my house every time I run out of an item
lime lake
yeah the way furniture works makes housing way clunkier than it needs to be
also needing to gather hundreds of lumber just to have a fence around my tiny plot
unkempt iris
make it the main city of this version
So you dont see other people ever AND have a repeat of WoD? Good idea me thinks
random stirrup
im impressed bingus figured out he was talking about grieftorch
Wdym blud
Everyone called it the cumguzzler
desert tendon
also needing to gather hundreds of lumber just to have a fence around my tiny pl...
just build more woodman
ezclap
bro is a noob AoE player
frail veldt
Everyone called it the cumguzzler
I'm not sure about everyone
Wouldn't it be more like the cumspitter?
random stirrup
I'm not sure about everyone
guzzle was definitely part of it
maybe cum more dubiously applied
left briar
Ive been trying to find a race to change to since I'm tired of Panda
any recommendations?
unkempt iris
Nelf always
harsh forge
tauren
dull geyser
@zac how you get the old killing spree sound thing in game
graceful goblet
The cumguzzler from df
vapid sundial
@zac how do you talk to woman
unkempt iris
@ zac how
grim spear
So you dont see other people ever AND have a repeat of WoD? Good idea me thinks
It's not like WoD
public services are offered in public spaces
It's a shared main hub, just with your friends' homes inside it.
I can't understand what kind of design decision would fragment the gameplay so badly that the population drops to zero.
No one will ever see anyone else's house. The only chance they'll ever be seen is if you take a screenshot and post it on social media.
Hilarious.
People need a reason to go there
actually, this conflicts with the design goals of a main city
you don't need two main cities in one expansion
So just make the residential area the main city itself
As one of the so-called core pillars of the game, it deserves that level of support.
At this point, I can only say the housing project lead has zero political influence in the office
Then this feature deserves to die
timid zephyr
random qn but why does my BTE damage number not show up?
i press it , it deals damage but i have no idea how much it hits for
ebon burrow
bandits Tell me what it is addon plater?
cerulean portal
idk man
i thought i did everything right
never 99 log
never
as sp/mage i do 99 every run but rogue is idk
im exhausted
vast mauve
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
novel tartan
never 99 log
What level key? Maybe the people beating you had 290 ilvl or less mastery equipped? 90 is good. I've had rank 1 outlaw parse in the world in previous xpacs on a raid boss parse, you know what it took? 6 roll the whole damn time. Like a 2 minute boss kill with maximum jackpot roll
cerulean portal
What level key? Maybe the people beating you had 290 ilvl or less mastery equipp...
20 ws
hardy thicket
so ur like barely within top15 of top damage of that key bracket chillax ur doing good
keep at it
u did better than some rogues that have played Outlaw for years
Speed+Casual
cerulean portal
lol
frozen quest
in which dungeon should i use numbin poison in phys comp?`or never?
vague cape
as sp/mage i do 99 every run but rogue is idk
Smaller sample size makes it tougher
To be in the upper quarter I’d argue is easier, but to be in the top 1% is much harder
You’re just competing against better players than you did on mage / sp
empty patrol
im exhausted
idk why you would be frustrated about a dungeon log on any class
also mage should be easier to log
but ye,relax and enjoy the game
empty patrol
there are so many factors that can throw your performance idk why u would even think about it
but sure
if u say so
hardy thicket
I think its a fine standard and goal to set just felt like u were beating yourself up a bit too hard
but ur not at the giving up range was jsut my point you are obv doing well so just keep at it
empty patrol
but ur not at the giving up range was jsut my point you are obv doing well so ju...
sup old man
all good?
hardy thicket
iuno about good but old is true
last week I was on top of the world this weekend not so much my kid is absolutely destroying me
empty patrol
last week I was on top of the world this weekend not so much my kid is absolutel...
assuming in a positive way,no harm involved
empty patrol
also wasnt aware u had a kid,happy to hear that!
hardy thicket
mentally destroying me
heh thanks
toddlers are fucking crazy, like looking after a drunk guy wanting to fight you over just about everything
empty patrol
its a mini u,prepare urself to get completely owned without the ability to react to any of it
high vector
my goat shadarek hating on aldrachi 
past fossil
What kinda overall should I be doing at 257 ilvl in 10s? I can't compare ilvl parses in keys, wanna know if I'm doing well or not.
last cape
What kinda overall should I be doing at 257 ilvl in 10s? I can't compare ilvl pa...
man there’s so many different factors to dps that a question like this isn’t the right question to ask
just focus on doing your rotation right
soft abyss
especially in a 10
soft abyss
I think best thing to do is look at the damage done by ability and compare
past fossil
Lol, well, they're all about the same. xD
cerulean portal
omg
i wanna die
tbf the key was resi (20sky)
i was doing well
but we did like 8 tries
bcz ppl were failing
i got tired. died twice like an idiot
so im fine with green log 😐
soft abyss
Deaths don't mean your dmg would be way higher though
rugged cliff
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Why don't we macro trinkets to abilities?
- You want to use trinkets while BtE is active, but you can't macro them to BtE, as breaking vanish with a trinket will cause Subterfuge to not activate, so Vanish > BtE macro could fail.
- Trinkets are your only on demand burst damage, you sometimes want to hold it for specific mobs or vulnerability windows.
- You usually don't want to send it on a dying mob.
past fossil
Is there a cap to bte stacks? Or is it just as lucky as you can get?
inland acorn
Is there a cap to bte stacks? Or is it just as lucky as you can get?
afaik, no cap
cerulean portal
Deaths don't mean your dmg would be way higher though
rly?
u think rtb lvl 1 is as good as lvl 3-4?
soft abyss
You can roll 3-4 even if you die afaik
quiet root
You can roll 3-4 even if you die afaik
from my experience this is not true
if you ever die you are doomed to 1 roll
soft abyss
This is an interesting idea, the longer you are alive the chances are in your favour for a jackpot
buoyant stratus
<@141665120764952576> bro you’re famous
Yeee we 1 banged that shit
Our tank dc'd on last boss for 10 seconds monkaS
waxen scarab
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
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Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
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vivid vessel
Tbf they probably haven't entered a spire 20 in months
cerulean portal
Tbf they probably haven't entered a spire 20 in months
thats what im saying
long barn
Zac
If you have loaded dice and RtB is about to expire and you’re about to send ADR, do you send RtB first to use up the loaded dice?
river wing
sounds logical yes
two chances both with LD are better than one
however, be wary of immediately trying to blow the second LD if you got a two - your ADR is still at around 2:10 CD, which can easily mean next RtB will not have LD withtout 100% uptime on target (or with terrible Opp luck)
let your two run down a little bit to safeguard, then it's okay to blow an LD somewhere around 90s remaining on ADR
cedar kernel
even when ur bone is level 3 is still worth i think
river wing
nahhh
losing a 3 for a 2 is far more likely than upgrading
cedar kernel
yea i want to correct it, only in a low uptime
cedar kernel
i want to return to the games but all my addon backup all gone
pure folio
Return from when? The addons got heavily changed anyways going into midnight
cedar kernel
got it, i am working with it rn ty brother
jolly geyser
all the lads back
gusty pagoda
What are you guys using for nameplates? I've just been using standard blizz ones so far but I feel like it's making kicking properly quite hard when a lot of mobs are stacked
inland acorn
Plater or platynator both are good
jolly geyser
!ui
ornate heathBOT
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
inland acorn
Kicking in big pull is still pain in the ass though
jolly geyser
jundies
gusty pagoda
Kicking in big pull is still pain in the ass though
Ah damn really?
pure folio
Ah damn really?
livid pewter
Kicking in big pull is still pain in the ass though
use focus target macro and kik and u just won the game
cedar kernel
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Resources:
- ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
- WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
- MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
- Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc: - Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
- WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
- Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
gusty pagoda
anyone know how I can disable the default blizz combo points below the player frame?
cerulean portal
anyone know how I can disable the default blizz combo points below the player fr...
u can in interface
gusty pagoda
I'm legally blind when it comes to these types of things but I legit can't find the setting 
cerulean portal
I'm legally blind when it comes to these types of things but I legit can't find ...
the first in "Combat"
gusty pagoda
I gotta say the difference between wangbar and sensei is insane when it comes to speed
Always felt like sensei CP's were lagging behind
jolly geyser
I meant this CP display
ClearRogueComboPoints, Haptics made it
gusty pagoda
thanks!
jolly geyser
np
gusty pagoda
kinda crazy that an addon is needed for it tho ngl
jolly geyser
more addons than before
guess you could count WA things separate stuff,idk smash buttons
rancid silo
I saw somewhere hate flask still better in some situations when at cap
What are those situations
rugged cliff
hey quick question, looking thru murloc and can see that the top player is running dubbel daggers. is there a reason for this ?
torpid fiber
logged out as a different spec probably or something
sacred rune
yes, they likely played subtlety in their raid and logged out with subtlety gear
murloc and other sites use the wow armory as a source for talents and gear
and people regularely log out with "wrong" talent or gear setups
rugged cliff
oh that explains it, appriciate it
sacred rune
(armory only captures your gear when you log out, you can't check gear in game during specific times, alterantive way to get gear would be combat logging, but most people don't log m+)
wintry solar
And you only capture my heart 
vivid vessel
hi bac im zac
jolly geyser
bac is back
thick valve
Where can i get these boots?
thick valve
Are the stats random?
vivid vessel
when they drop yes
but you can buy the stats you want
on the ah
its alwyas 84 smth and 40 smth
thick valve
I know evrything thanks bro
jolly geyser
the all knowing
rancid silo
@vivid vessel u haste or crit flask m+
vivid vessel
crit
blissful barn
One question, when i have Elusivness skilled stacking the dmg reduce from Feint and Evasion ?
hazy temple
!sheet
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
vivid vessel
One question, when i have Elusivness skilled stacking the dmg reduce from Feint ...
y
cerulean portal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447026644718977074/1509812874795810898/S...
WTF
who made that
jolly geyser
who made that
Reddit
cedar kernel
now make this in the house bac
i just sold it
outlaw doesnt need house
i live in wild
jolly geyser
i live in wild
sleep under the stars
cerulean portal
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1tqrdxb/120_hours_and_1600_dyed_cobbleston...
amazing
cedar kernel
how could i slove this issue brothers
jolly geyser
prolly gotta move it in default wow ui
from utility to cds etc
dunno the m33k shite
cerulean portal
r1 title in m+ is for 0.1% right?
frail veldt
Ye
arctic hollow
seriously i want to change its position but it reverge after i click save
most addons improving on the cd manager override the position setting, you change it in the addon, not edit mode
pure folio
@cedar kernel how is the ui coming along
cedar kernel
most addons improving on the cd manager override the position setting, you chang...
ty brother
cedar kernel
<@406719278524399616> how is the ui coming along
wdym?
pure folio
Did you fix it?
hardy thicket
Tbf they probably haven't entered a spire 20 in months
was trying to be supportive and encouraging but way to go bozo
radiant wyvern
not clickin on any of that shit brodie
cerulean portal
was trying to be supportive and encouraging but way to go bozo
thats nice but u dont have to 😄
inland acorn
or @fluid iron 
cerulean portal
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
inland acorn
vivid vessel
hardy thicket
vivid vessel
frail veldt
hardy thicket
cerulean portal
<a:feelsdanceman:393867186336169984>
thats literally me
cedar kernel
how many levels does rtb have
hardy thicket
4
cedar kernel
oh nice, ty merz
hardy thicket
hollow portal
Does anyone know how to remove this?
hollow portal
i love
dim parrot
Yo who wanna help look at vid review and log 4 me I figured out how to get it in the log page
Had to post to YouTube so there could be a link lol
keen belfry
no warrior no monk aug outlaw key
final pagoda
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BtHa2P1CkRMVXK9A?fight=33&source=405&view=timeline&type=casts why top logs in paladins are ambushing in the opener?
is it a wlogs bug?
random stirrup
spec is gamba
doesnt matter if you make a few mistakes if you just roll
he also rolled before the pull resulting in him starting the fight with a 1buff in opener until his second roll
midnight granite
worldly shale
this without flask, dungeon slice says to use crit flask
bait?
pure folio
brothers i am wondering should i send bte at 5 if it refund
You build back up
Never spend bte at 5
pure folio
Yw brother
cedar kernel
time to change my habit
pure folio
this without flask, dungeon slice says to use crit flask
bait?
Should be fine, if you find urself running out of energy a lot just use haste
still wagon
Just ran a pos 17, what are the chances of getting 11 jackpot in one run
dim parrot
no warrior no monk aug outlaw key
Ik was kinda troll but more looking for gameplay advice anyway
cedar kernel
why would u click his links
vivid vessel
care his account got compromised dont click his links
clicking
cedar kernel
sus
gaunt phoenix
bacc
dim parrot
didnt expect theres 17 chapters in campaigns there
Yeah new player friendly bro ease them into the lore and have it make sense
cedar kernel
Yeah new player friendly bro ease them into the lore and have it make sense
toooo long
i want to finish campaign in 5 hrs then rush into m+
hard wraith
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if someone could take a look at my logs and maybe help me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I'm fairly well geared (ilvl 184) and I've been following the recommended rotations as closely as I can, but my DPS still feels very low. It's becoming pretty embarrassing in higher keys when people invite me based on my item level and rating, only for me to end up underperforming.
On average, I'm usually sitting around 90–100k DPS, while the other two DPS players in the group are often doing 200k+.
I'd really appreciate any advice or feedback you can give. It's been difficult to get help in-game since most rogues I come across are playing Subtlety, and there aren't many rogues on my server in general.
Thanks in advance!
dim parrot
Type !log then post it
gusty pagoda
!ui
ornate heathBOT
Resources:
- ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
- WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
- MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
- Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc: - Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
- WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
- Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
indigo token
alright so
update on my guild trial
its going well
but we're dealing with the roster boss a lot...
we're down to 12 people
dim widget
@vivid vessel we need tomelvis https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1507114282633003219/1510719814547800086/image.png?ex=6a1dd6f7&is=6a1c8577&hm=99679f34e48cd91fc842d768a7de0c4d5c6b7fed14afa5cf5661714bd3bc2e5c&
honest jetty
!log
brazen drift
I just did ~200k overall in a +16 but I felt it was rough on a couple bigger pulls where I couldn’t pull more than like 350k dps whereas on assassination I can pull close to 900k dps peak. Is the solution to just bring other burstier classes with you?
cinder relic
A spec with burst is going to have pulls where it does a lot better than other pulls
pure folio
Outlaw Isnt a burst spec and is target capped
cinder relic
For every pull sin is doing 900k, and you are doing 350k. He's doing 120k on the next while ur doing 260k
Or whatever the numbers actually are
brazen drift
I just mean it feels like you run into an issue in higher keys where pulls live too long and your tank explodes
Or is this not as much of a problem as I think it is
cinder relic
Seems to work fine enough for the groups pushing with outlaw
brazen drift
It’s kinda nice how similar stat prios are for sin and outlaw this season just got my myth one handed to drop from alleria so I’ve been messing around
cinder relic
It's a downside but so is being worthless on every other pull for burst specs yk
It's just a feature
pure folio
Yea, personally I like the consistency 👍
Plus that 350k can be way higher if lucky
That’s what it’s all about
brazen drift
Okay and how terrible is puzzle box bc it’s the only trinket I have lol
cinder relic
Very
pure folio
Bad
brazen drift
I’m running pbox and gaze both at 298 so I need to bonus roll something next reset lol
dim parrot
I just mean it feels like you run into an issue in higher keys where pulls live ...
It’s not an issue
pure folio
Do u have h plume
dim parrot
Otherwise the pulls Assa doesn’t have cd’s would live too long and tank would die
brazen drift
Do u have h plume
I don’t do heroic raid, mythic raid or bust, I’m fully geared for sin so I’m just gonna roll vault for outlaw
pure folio
Fair enough, if you have plume prism or guidon they would be better
Or insignia
Can just voidforge them
brazen drift
And I know mythic + logs aren’t accurate but how much dmg should you be doing overall in a key at like ~290 ilvl
Say for like a 16
pure folio
Depends on the key
But like 200k or so
16s are still kinda low where people can snipe damage too
brazen drift
The last time I played outlaw was bfa so just experimenting right now and throwing keys
Thanks for advice
Well actually one more question, how bad is puzzle box in pure single target? Doesn’t main gauche do a decent percent of our dmg in ST? Or is the mastery scaling just that horrible
gusty pagoda
Isn't it grandson
gaunt phoenix
Well actually one more question, how bad is puzzle box in pure single target? Do...
Gauche is much better in aoe over st
gaunt phoenix
puzzle box is not that bad in aoe
gusty pagoda
I remember it being his grandson not 100% sure tho
gaunt phoenix
it is because bf (the cast itself) and blade rush will proc main gauche on multiple targets at once
cedar kernel
iirc MG still cant not be bf? or it can be now
brazen drift
He’s saying that by casting blade flurry the actual AOE hit will proc MG on each target it hits (if it procs)
cedar kernel
oh ic
brazen drift
puzzle box is not that bad in aoe
I’m assuming you’d just send on CD right
pure folio
Ye
gaunt phoenix
i mean if you are at 1 target so you can more or less hold it for upcoming aoe
if it is soon
outlaw used to consider puzzle box back in the day
but our crit/haste was not good at the time
i still have this
cinder relic
Literally
young lion
hey, stupid question, do we use ambush at all from stealth ?
gaunt phoenix
nop
young lion
ty
formal thunder
I know platynator is the go to recommendation here, but has anyone managed to get Plater to not overlap nameplates? pretty sure I found the right settings, but they don't seem to do the trick
keen belfry
im unsure if u can even adjust olverlap
formal thunder
so the settings dont do anything?
frail veldt
I know platynator is the go to recommendation here, but has anyone managed to ge...
I think plater is
formal thunder
plater is what? the recommendation?
split swallow
guys should i hold bte for adr? its rly make good diff or its small minmax
glass mortar
its like a 0.8% minmax or something like that
split swallow
so i just press adr and bte on cd?
glass mortar
uh u can if u dont want the gain
split swallow
i can wait adr for bte but not bte for adr correct?
cedar kernel
brothers may i ask the the "upcoming cooldown of ADR for prep" has the specific time limit
dim parrot
i can wait adr for bte but not bte for adr correct?
If it’s like one finisher away I hold ADR I think it’s fine either way. But if BTE has 30 sec on cd just send AR
vivid vessel
does someone have nawoh exboss profile
hazy temple
i only have tettles, buts quite annoying that its tailored for filty aug players
hazy temple
yeah cant figure out how to set it up properly
i want to remove all the bleed cauterize warnings he has on
but cant for the life of me figure out where you set that up
random stirrup
does someone have nawoh exboss profile
i have my goated profile
vivid vessel
sounds like a bad profile
random stirrup
idk i just went through and turned most stuff off
and some things on
had to get some chinese translated
vivid vessel
ye
im just gonna start from nawohs one
cause we legit have the same ui
he use the same bigwigs styling as i do
so his exboss is styled the same and shit
leaden sonnet
Yall think blizzard will brick something about it with 0.7
random stirrup
no
random stirrup
what can they brick
vivid vessel
of getting rnged
wdym
you are not supposed to be able to track mobs abilities
timer
vivid vessel
it is
vivid vessel
yes but you are not supposed to be able to do that
leaden sonnet
Ye but the guesses are based of something
hazy temple
i have my goated profile
sharing is caring?
random stirrup
i was just ragebaiting zac
random stirrup
sharing is caring?
but idk you just click stuff on and off
hazy temple
big now share it and fuck over this nawoh
random stirrup
most things are vanilla
hazy temple
founding illegal practices
legit how did quazi and a bunch of other addon creaters get hate, and now this guy and others has made it common practice to sell profiles
leaden sonnet
Lots of people have been selling their profiles for a longass time
vivid vessel
dont think anyone hated on quazi for selling profiles
he wasnt selling it
it was free
lol
and nawoh been selling his profiles since i started the game
hazy temple
it was locked to his patereon, and he "borrowed" from other addons which is why they made him rage quit
random stirrup
he ragequit before
hazy temple
pixel perfect, which a bunch of other addons also use now
vivid vessel
no one cares about paywalled stuffs everyone does it
hazy temple
to me it seemed that was the crux of the hate train paywall +´stolen content
hazy temple
he ragequit before
no?
vivid vessel
to me it seemed that was the crux of the hate train paywall +´stolen content
idk i think quazi kinda just hated on himself im ngl
people werent cool with him stealing things to make his addon
but also most didnt care
vivid vessel
he himself let it get to him for 0
random stirrup
he is a bit of a whiner ngl
vivid vessel
legit no one cared until he started making long ass twetter posts
about him being a victim
and all that shit
he could have just went about his day no one would have cared
hazy temple
i agree, he was very sensitve about it
but it was quite unfortuante i liked how clean his ui was, and that it was catered towards preformance
so big profile drop incoming to your UI @zac?
expecting all feint and evasion + cloak timings 
vivid vessel
i mean i have everyting shared mostly
keen belfry
zac can u tell me why meta comps dmg meters look so low
vivid vessel
idk
keen belfry
or maybe im just thinking of boss
vivid vessel
they take time setupping packs
keen belfry
dam
vivid vessel
idk
keen belfry
cause like if u look at their dmg with aug, if u take all 3 they do way less
but surely its diff cuz timers good
vivid vessel
prolly wanna look at logs
rather than details
if you wanna compare
and then again
keen belfry
ye true
keen belfry
like legit u see aug dk dh do a boss
and their numbers are so low
they end the boss doing normal phys boss dam but with aug buffing them
random stirrup
they end the boss doing normal phys boss dam but with aug buffing them
udk boss damage is not bad
also you just combine 3 pulls together and giga blow them up
this died in bl in 21
vivid vessel
all that to have the same timer as phys comp enjoyers first timing the key
random stirrup
real!
if outlaw was still in its premidnight state i would probably be playing it
dim parrot
Devs baited everyone away from rogue for the first month of midnight
haughty wigeon
then why did my udk had less overal than me a vdh in this pull and the whole dungeon?
checkmate bub
brazen drift
outlaw uses dungeon slice for m+ sims?
pure folio
outlaw uses dungeon slice for m+ sims?
For gearing yeah
steel shadow
does anyone have a link to a good exboss profile
cedar kernel
is that normal when i finish the previous chapter but i didnt reach the level to get into void storm
hum
glass mortar
yes
cedar kernel
the last time i stuck in tww was i finish all the chapter but cant reach max level
now they changed
sterile tusk
the absolute highroll of an opener sheesh
cedar kernel
brothers why does KS prio become such low? does it got nerfed?
according to the usage of prep
dull geyser
are we doing the dark moon trinket with weirdo stat thing?
gaunt phoenix
brothers why does KS prio become such low? does it got nerfed?
it was nerfed
cedar kernel
in the beginning of midnight or before midnight my brother
gaunt phoenix
midnight
cedar kernel
oh i see
civic bison
!ui
ornate heathBOT
Resources:
- ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
- WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
- MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
- Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc: - Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
- WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
- Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
frosty kettle
!trinketmacro
ornate heathBOT
Why don't we macro trinkets to abilities?
- You want to use trinkets while BtE is active, but you can't macro them to BtE, as breaking vanish with a trinket will cause Subterfuge to not activate, so Vanish > BtE macro could fail.
- Trinkets are your only on demand burst damage, you sometimes want to hold it for specific mobs or vulnerability windows.
- You usually don't want to send it on a dying mob.
frosty kettle
!rtb
ornate heathBOT
How to use RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and 
Supercharger)
- Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
- Roll if you have 2 buffs and
Loaded Dice is active. - Roll once asap after pressing
KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border). - After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.
frosty kettle
!commonerrors
ornate heathBOT
Common errors for Outlaw -> see this answer in the FAQ.
vivid vessel
are we doing the dark moon trinket with weirdo stat thing?
doubt
some of our stats are really really bad compared to others
we also cant afford to remove that much haste
its prolly a caster thing
olive bramble
dont we need like 25% haste atm
olive bramble
and like close to 40% crit
You barely have room to take anything that loses one of those
at least every time I try to gain some vers it just hits those two too much for it to be worth
olive bramble
@vivid vessel what do you do for that last boss in Skyreach? It's absolutely destroying me with those lasers lmao
vivid vessel
vial feint prio
if no vial, feint eva
if healer is shaman and he is picked up
big danger
cant place totems down
keep cloak for that
but ye im feinting every laser
olive bramble
so it's basically praying you dont get hit and pray your healer heals you through it
vivid vessel
i think outlaw is one of the tankiest spec on this boss
if played properly
i used to think it was impossible
but then i changed the way i play the boss
just need to realize vial needs to be on cd
olive bramble
It's the only boss I struggle on to survive
vivid vessel
cause its your strongest def
and its 30s cd
which means you can vial every other one
and in vial feint you cant die
dont even need a heal
olive bramble
I'll give it a go next time I run that dung in a higher key, I am probably panic feinting
thanks!
vivid vessel
I'll give it a go next time I run that dung in a higher key, I am probably panic...
you need to not hit your feint before the dot is up also
olive bramble
you need to not hit your feint before the dot is up also
so hit feint as soon as you get hit and it starts ticking?
vivid vessel
well ideally you press right before
dot is 5s long
feint is 6s
but you cant really know when its gonna hit you unless you make reminders
via maybe mrt ?
im doing it with timeline reminder
but its a paid addon thing
cedar kernel
**__Common errors for Outlaw__** -> see this [answer in the FAQ](<https://discor...
isnt this one too old
rough anchor
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
daring oxide
