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way easier than in s2 me think
But how else would i blame my healer for dying?
Oh yeah very true
I’d rather die pressing a fun button, than live pressing this new dogshit ks
wdym? its super fun and cool looking 
and fits perfect into the flow

boon is goated
Or in shadowlands where the Oldks + 100%crit legendary thing
Is it bad to actually miss old ks redacted
No, I miss it
That’s what drew me to outlaw
ok

Old KS sucked ass
0/10
It’s a hit or miss it seems
I loved it
Is still one of the worst
Old ks Coolest looking ability imo

It was just very unique looking imo nothing even close to it
wdym old
Felt right with the fast paced gameplay
this one sucks too
yes but at least it hit hard
current KS is just a glorified buff spreader
How hard it hits has nothing to do with its design though
There were seasons where old KS did piss damage too
It was cool and a fun skill expression
Like you could just immune certain stuff with it

not immune but you could use it as a pseudo defensive
No you coukdnimmune
since it staggered damage
Certain spells would not hurt you
Umm no
Yes
It was a stagger
I know it was a stagger
The only thing it immuned was roots
But certain aoes wouldn’t proc the stagger
oh
Which ones
You’d just take 0 damage
Don't think that was a thing lol
kspree teleported u too often
they just wouldnt tick on u
very rare tho
id hardly call that part of the spell
First one that comes to mind is that cave dungeon in TWW
i can only think of one or two aoes that did that
Like the big guys at the front
There was also almost no scenario that you held it
You could sit in their circle aoe and take 0 damage
It was too tied to our rotation
You wouldn’t hold it lined up perfectly
This feels like cope
well thats different
this aoe was a root
I'm not happy with new KS
you could vanish the aoe
But I would never go back
does NSRT work in m+? like announcments etc
ks was an imune to roots
Oh the one in dfc
I mean it’s an opinion :3
Doesn’t mean I’m right for liking it
^
mostly joking
Some people like ketchup on pasta
ok slightly joking
BM dark ranger season 3 tww was so fun
but i think its fair to say its objectively bad for the game to have a spec that self stunned every ~20s
just bad game design
Very yeah
I swear it did damage?
yes
It did and was also a root
it would one shot
yes sometimes roots have damage tied to them
but if the damage is tied to the root function
Too
but if you had root imune you could stay in
I see that’s why it worked
anything that immunes roots makes u not take it
you could paladin freedom
freedom
aswell
made u immune to the damage
kspree was an objectively bad spell in pve, which is funny because it was actually quite a good spell in pvp
god the amount it used to do
damage delay
Oh y was awesome in pvp
dodge enemy attacks (ur always behind them)
Very fun ability
break roots
also u can only play ur character like 60% of the time in pvp anyway so why do i care if my self cc is also benifiting me

new kspree really needs some pvp talents because its a crazy drop off
It's so useless in pvp
U PVP?!
how far is fatebound behind trickster in m+?
+-5%
according to the pin it's far closer in actual M+
Ye
guys smoke cloud makes me die to random puddles spawn during dungeon, its ultra hard for me to spot em. is there fix to this shit?
either you can spawn it in places far from the fight
or lower density (but dangerous for some other spells)
Anyone know about what percent is the Right amount of Haste to have? im worried I should be switching my enchants from haste to Crit.
25%
staying in smoke is dmg increase tho right?
no
u dont need to interact with the smoke at all
it refreshes the buff on u when it ends regardless of if u touch it
u can just fart off in the distance to keep it away from blocking ur view
so i downloaded the archon app to do logs
and now my ping is 160
do u guys use archon app?
the archon app has vpn'd you to russia
getting an invite as a rogue to M10+ is a struggle.
its ok
you either pad or you dont 
hit boss
i think my char is bugged on fridays
it's saturday
it's saturday
then he should have brought it up yesterday
iwas bugged yesterday
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/mOrguRYXXTemlnkkJ?invite=cr-MSxCelAsNDU1MDEwMw&v=37 like where was my dmg here
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i barely scratch 600k with jackpot 6 bte resets

a lot of ur btes only gave u 1 stack of the dmg buff
skill issued i suppose
the entire bte damage buff can go tbh
ye i dont want to be tuned around it existing
Why is there a rng stacking debuff on a rng resetting cd
Like I’m missing 200k dmg on that pull
For what?
awang
how many times did i try to tell u awang....
been saying this since beta...........
i basically always go (pre bf) BR ss ss ks
25% crit rate
ur a legend
u probably underrolled by like 60% there
on ur actual chance on bte
outlaw is amaze
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/mOrsnKEvjvpJrJaUK?invite=cr-MSxwWGwsNDU1MDEwMw&v=52 this was the run before
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rtb lulck ass and i do 450k on a lsut double AR pot pull
too bad
or remove the 5 different layers of rng they added onto it for no real reason
outside the players control or gameplay
i was once again convinced i was bugged yesterday
i do 450k on a lust pot double ar pull
then ull randomly do 800k on a prep pack where u dont even proc bte once but have jackpot
noob rogues always trolling key

then we have a pull today, no jackpot no lust no pot
?????????????????????????????????
xd
Yup
it's outlaw its lit
i use the reminder in enhance qol
whats that
addon
it has a lot of different functions in it that you can enable/disable
i use it for my frames as well
I swear I’m playing a diff game
Ok
Try to fully reset BR with prep too
Aka if you are like one finisher away from getting br back
Do that before prep
i played too much today
i forgot what is br x_x
i think i remember whats ar but not sure
Try guessing
battle royal
Fortnite br
its a new feature
bruh
if you reset it you win
i even forgot how to make a screenshot
Brazil
the war of world of warcraft

i think its because u jumped no=?
How do people handle tanking bro it's beyond me 
Tanked a quick +12 on dh and legit got flamed for using blizz route even tho it was a +3
why we acting like MDI routes are needed for +12
seen people here sometimes flame tanks, they should try
I would play tank if it wasn't for the memorizing of routes. Lindormi's guidance was such a nice addition to me but yeah
might not be hard to play sometimes,but you can get a lot of shit
ain't much use if people start crying hallfway through a key because you pull 1 supobtimal pack
i mean a lot of 12s are filled with people who think they are much better than they are just ignore em
if im in a 12 weekly and tank plays carefully and I see hes kinda new:ish i dont flame its w/e im just there for the vault slot
we need new tanks,more the merrier
Yeah but the thing was, I was rushing through the key at a fast tempo I just wasn't doing the optimal route
yeah i know
Guys is it any good playing Outlaw without the buffs ? Do I need 3 of the 4 possible at 19+ ?
people still flame tho
he claimed that you cannot skip any mobs beyond first boss MT which is bs anyway
I mean its doable it just feels ass to know you are missing out on like 12% of damage
lol
It Feels super Ass as well - but 0 interest in rerolling
it is what it is
I usually only que for keys with at least 2 of the 3 (sham/war/monk) rn
not sure what MOTW is worth in %
3%
Most classes are missing some % of their raid buffs in m+ tho
I think if u have 2 is ok
Like rsham brew
I dislike raid buffs and racials ngl
Theres going to be a monk tank or guardian druid, if they go guardian druid MW is going to be likely as healer so
and warriors are pretty common
just rough if MW is in the healer slot they will get a hunter
I think I usually only get invs to rsham groups
If MW they need lust dps or just go meta comp
ye
yes but phys buff are like worht like 4x caster buffs or something like that
the few enhancers ive met actually have banged tho
had some outlaw/war/enhancer/mw/gdudu keys
I just had a feral and a brew add me after a 19 so thats pog, I would like to play with a more consistent group of peeps in phys
Yeah I think only 2 raid buffs in a group we still behind average comp for raid buffs %
feral + brew means it has to be resto so 😄
yeah
My rshams always die
and the minute u see a bear and rsham you know you wont be getting your monk buff
Vexamus they always dead
They need to nuke skyfury and more and make every 5% raid buff to 3%
And then buff phys classes by the different to account for it
the melee part of skyfury is quite toxic for most classes
my rshams keep telling me to use cloak when i've already used evasion, cloak, stoneform and perma feinting
Yeah make skyfury just mastery
Yeah just make skyfury 2% mastery
No me first
classes that get resources from AA, sub ret arms, HATE playing wtihout skyfury
I think all caster buffs are a few % below 2 of melees strongest buffs
I mean I bet sub rogue gets the same from skyfury as all caster buffs combined so
hi new guy
hi old guy
I had a guy tell me that I talk like an unc in /w today. Its actually over guis
check the pins and faq before questions
Boomer status 100% confirmed
meh,who gives a fuck
whats up unc
Sup junior
im 34 I think
Im 36 im pretty sure
Ye
good that means i'll never be an unc in games
zeross is like 28
oh those years go by
ngl i feel like my brain keeps getting faster each year
atleast im not growing my brain backwards
I had a start since im chef as profession also and playing rogue, just wore wrist braces and stretched
Ye ive worn wrist protection since I was 22 lol
I dont game without it since then
think I started at 31-32
I came from RTS and people in their early 20s were getting cts
So I was like hell no
I played innebandy,floorball a lot when younger
finnish
Oh
I used to have thumb injuries from using drone radios
Fins call it innebandy?!
but I speak both fluent
Salibandy
Drone radios are sharp
I played floorball from age 8-16 but was a goalie
I was goalie from like 8-15 and then def or mid, got a good shot but not the fastest
We were pretty good ngl but partying and gaming got the best of me last two years
ye,fucked up my knee bad in a game at like 19. Not much since
Ye not the most injury friendly sport
I broke my finger while at a cup once. Only problem was it was in the locker room before the game 
shiiet
Reached for a energy drink and somehow slipped and jammed my finger thru the cracks on the benches and it broke lol
knock on wood,never broke a bone. Just cracked my left wrist abit
Ironically ive only broken fingers
oh well, uncs talking. outlaw do dmg with buffs
^
talking sport injuries is always fun or in general,has some story sometimes
finally not being dog at outlaw anymore 
Can't use gloves
ah
Have to feel where the stick is
gloves have saved me so many times in the baja workshop
@vivid vessel i think the only thing that holds you back from timing 24s is not playing sub
hm
maybe you are onto something
tho i think one of the big thing is playing 3 nights a week
while andy group timed 24s but they have been playing 20h a day for the past 4 weeks
time isnt infinite !
that too, but its deffo sustain an issue, i doubt you guys can live the 24s
Which 24s can’t they live u think
we almost did the wordl first magister 24 by 30s tho
cavern we can do 24 easely
pit also
then there is what
nexus i dont see why we wouldnt be able to
ok i mean no one timed a 24 skyreach yet
aa is mostly time tight
seat we have the best timer out of every team prolly
academy is timer but also no one timed aa 24
idk
the onyl hard 24s are spire and nexus
then academy and skyreach are mabye not possible
oh and seat idk
spire why, third boss?
spire is just a hard key
just saying like
pit/magister/caverns are legit one shot keys right
24 are fine
can time with deaths and shit
nexus and spire are a bit harder but largely doable
seat hasnt been timed yet i think thats mostly cause the damage intake is insane, but timer should be ok
academy and skyreach i think timers are very tight and might not be possible in 24
with current gear
hhm true, you guys are all getting older too so you get worse and worse
idk i wish we were able to play as much as the top teams
ye
like dont get me wrong
andy team is good right
they are all very good players and some of the best playuers in the world every season
especially with the resilient keys its just game time
but they legit play 10x as much as anyone else
pre res keys it was way harder
the leaderboard is filled with their keys
its prolly only fans with ai chick and 24/7 wow angle
i mean res only helps team waste less time
its quite good for teams i think
its weird in lfg cause people get score from resi keys
but in team
you are able to waste less time pushing keys back up over and over, you are able to try strats in resil keys
etc
new routes
i dont think it makes high key pushing easier
i think it makes it less time consuming
you spend more time doing the fun part
yea it speeds up the process by many times, thats why its easier
you dont have to put as much effort as before
it can be both good and bad
i dont think timing 21s over and over when you were trying to time 23s back in the day was harder lol
it was just a time sink
but its a good concept in general
now they just have to remove aug from the game
i dont think you should be able to gain score from resilient
obv with current system it wouldnt work tho
but
its great for boosting
i think a key should be resilient, but if you run it with someone that doesnt have that key level timed, it should not be resilient
like if you deplete once with a guy without resi
the key cant be started at that level anymore
you have to start at level -1
or you can kick the guy
and get someone else
and go again
maybue cooked take idk
It’d be so hard to put a group together if you had to pug though is why they would never do that
yea you would only see resi xyz
well not the way i just said tho
Oh I get what you’re saying now
it would be essentially trhe same, you just havbe to reform your grp if you fail the key
but the key hodler doesnt lose his key
thats the whole point of resil to me
btu gaining poiints from resil isnt good for the game imo
I think blizzard would have technical limitations on implementing that properly lmao
i think it feels bad both way also
There would be so many bugs
Omega cooked + 5 stack player opinion
no i think pugging resil key in lfg is horrible
you just join grps that are resilient, maybe they ask you to pay cause they are cringe people
and then you run the same key over and over for 5 h straight
they will never do it either way, blizzard is all up for subs so they try to have the masses happy
cause no one is able to concentrate in a resil key
cause there is nothing pushijng you to play good
If you think ppl who already timed the key shouldn't help someone who hasn't do it
The real solution is to stop making keys deplete, or just delete keys altogether
so people just slop their way trough timing that resilient key
I mean they could always make it similar to delve tiers
They rework the m+ system soon guarantee it
thats not what i said tho, your key doesnt deplete so you can still lfg it, you just cant run over and over that key to boost people to timing it
also before resil i also thought keys shsouldnt exist
then resil came around
Yes but it doesn't work, who would tag a key they already did?
and i think running resil keys over and over without any stakes
cause it doesnt deplete
is mental damaging
and it doesnt carry the same feeling
Meh
than doing a key that can deplete
i pugged title pre resil keys, i need to get a badge of honor
you dont understand thats not what i said
It's implied
Was title harder or easier pre resil keys
i have resil 22, my key is 22 academy, i need to push it back
i queue my key up, i take people, they deplete it, i reform grp
@tropic zephyr
like it was before resilient except you dont lose your key
your key doesnt deplete
the alternative is what we have rn where people with resilient legit queue up their key and then run it over and over for 3 h till it works
and the entire grp prolly didnt deserve to time ever they all played terrible cause it was resil and no one cared
casue there is no stakes
nothing
just brainrot
I don't get why pushing the key until you get it is brainrot
If you die lura you don't go back to be Loren before trying again
Ya
how do you not get it then
you must have realised by now that people dont play to time when the key is resil
there is no stakes there is nothing
people play like the key was resilient
of course
cuase it is
its slop
spam slop
boosting 5 monkeys
Literally
It's so brainrot
It's just spam until fall your way through the key
So many people get keys they don't deserve with this system
I mean, we did a lot of tries dying to the same point and adjusted what went wrong on our pulls
Idk
Esp when you talk with your team like " hey before we play again everyone boost their key up"
The old system definitely definitely valued consistency more
i just think an in between would be better
you need stakes behind it
so people dont play like braindead
the stake is
if you dplete the key
Agreed
you get kicked from the grp
cause the owner of the grp
will want to reform
to continue his key at same level
too bad you had to play better
maybe you give a key 3 life or whatever but like
it shouldnt be how it is rn
its litteral brainrot
and i think it works perfectly when you are in a grp
and you gain io by timing real keys
then use resil to push back up keys
i just dont think timing lfg keys in resil
is fun
for anyone
3 life doesn't deplete would be infinitely better, yes
It almost feels like
queeing up a resil key you know you will be there for 4h spamming it
cause no one plays the game
You shouldnt be able to give your resil out
To randoms
Only your own team idk
But what if people got better on these 4h?
They didn't
you castn tell me you ever pugged a resil key if you think like that tho
obv people get better after 4h running the same key but like
Lolol
the mental damage
you get
running resil keys
in lfg
you cannot tell me
you are doing lfg resil
I did once to get my AA 18, 3 hours to get it done
Oof
In my pug journey recently I did a 19 pit and the other two DPS did like 135k
They did not deserve to time the key
Like 6 deaths between them
@tropic zephyr i mean we know its not entirely good for the game anywya
like
you see the demons you get in lfg now
it wasnt as bad before
It makes title reward playtime over skill more that's for sure
Gotta just rng your way into a successful time
No I agree, but I do get more invite now
Cause more ppl putting their keys on the tag
tbf with my system there is still the same amount of keys
since the key doesnt deplete
Yeah it's probably better
it is legit so dumb
i mean i do agree that the way before was way too much
depleting your key everytime
it wasnt good
too much pressure onto the key hodler
which is my entire point
there shouldnt be any pressure on the key holder
he timed the key
he got resil
he deserves it
there should be pressure on the people that didnt time the key
these people should get invited and try their hardest to win
every key I have done at 20-21 range is someone with resil trying to push it up
so you need stakes
and usually we go through a cycle of animals bricking it and reforming
There's def a lot of trickle down effect from the new resil system
Nah this is cooked
You lose a bit of time, but essentially you still just find another guy and go again
idk you could say that from before resil
its not entirely true tho
it is true
going back to lfg is definitly something that you dont wanna be doing
you would try way harder
idk there needs to be something
@vivid vessel https://papergames.io/en/r/9kUysiLoe/73
Cause in the end, with this system, for key holder it means LFG roulette till you have 4 other guys that do things correctly
guys watch our game
When maybe you deplete cause just 1 is bad
For sure, tho it's a bit less shit for lfg than before
Cause more keys in tag
IMHO, system should be built to incentivize a maximum of groups to go and play
ye but idk gaining score from resil key feels bad
thats not an issue you have in team tho
but idk the idea way to fix that
for lfg
i mean that was the whole point of the move you nobo
u think too much...
u lost bozo
thoughts?
or
hes kinda losing low key or
wtf
??
ur using too much time to think thats why..
????
wtf
what’s ur rating
-100

we just reset after the first pull because my aug had the wrong macro on his bars
we are frist timing hml
resil is a plague
i was a demon when i used to play chess on the school computer over listening in class

Yes, keeping stakes high while also making it less cringe for lfg is hard. It probably needs a complete rework.
Clearly, what you're suggesting to avoid player being omega bad for 3h straight but still timing keys would imply some sort of elo system
Maybe if you lose elo that will impact the keys you can do when you deplete, it could fix some things, idk
ye idk
if elo would work
i still think that its valuable to be able to not worry about losing elo
and try strats
try pulls
etc
know waht i mena
Yeah, you should not like lose elo below your equivalent resil score
But maybe then it's all the same
Idk
oh did i run out of time
you are chopped
nope
the sounds are good no
ye
i play wow with sound
EZ
skill issue
who had black ? zac?
yes
R u playing bullet or something
totally winning
but i didnt notice time bro idk
?
isnt it too little time
well i was about to eat half your pieces
now he could play Queen takes bishop
no u werent
and you are in a really bad situtation
i had good defence
and i was more in the middle of the board
you had not
i could eat half your pieces with that queen alone
wheres the board
and half my pieces were in the middle
im pretty sure i had everything sorted there
while yours are afk
but i think
How much time did u have
you need a gamemode
its protected by castle and bishop
where you gain time
when you play
no
is that not how it works
this thing runs out too fast
ye but we need chess24
u have an acc?
he takes bishop
no but i eat your bishop, tehn i eat either pawn or tower
and im still in your base
he didnt do that
with queen
so
and horse
well ye i ran out of time
your pieces are all afk in base and i was all over your ass lil bro
only move for you that I see was Qe3 to protect bishop and rook
whats ur rating vov1
ye
sec
we run out before we even played the game
Play blitz 3|2
zac
or something like 5/5 is good
ross
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@vivid vessel
to add me insta
gonna mess around with law today and a guildy told me to do this while the key counts down? I read in the FAQ to get a loaded dice, but the rest of this?
Supercharger and disorienting strikes
ah
but ks gives 2 unseen blade
zac
going into the key
lets play bullet?
Snd in the bubble
1 minute game
sure thing lil bro
blitz best choice probably
something like 3/2 5/5
bullet is ultra random on this lvl
ok but whats the point
i made 1 great move EZ or
ye
so the one that moves the fastest
cuz we're bad
wins
i think
by default
maybe uhh
i mean maybe idk
play like 5 + 5
oh wtf 1900?
wait
5min and 5 sec for each move
xd
is that high
Its high ye
for people playing live it is not that much
yea
parsing 98 in chess?
kinda banger lil bro
I am a bridge player actually
2200 is national master
isnt that cards
2500 is grandmaster
im prolly gm level
yeah but kinda chess with cards
ross
sounds boring lil bro
when you could be playing wow
omegalul
could slay dragons and shit
is there a addon that tells me when tricks is off the tank?
no but i wish
In wow ye we’re both gm’s
xd
can someone tell ross he is washed up
Only 35-40 players in the world is a super gm
@proven ocean ur washed up
Wait thats me
Fk
Why did u bait me zac..
@soft abyss wanna play bullet against me
I think i can beat ur ass low key
Or?
13 year old?
OKOK
sus bro
xd
https://link.chess.com/play/j5rn2q @soft abyss
it is my email and I was like ok I pu tthe same
you are getting rolled rn
it's kinda random





