#outlaw

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vivid vessel
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doesnt matter

jagged plover
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surely u just sim this

vivid vessel
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i would roll so i have 2 rolls for adr

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kir

keen belfry
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makes sense

fossil lintel
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"yes"

keen belfry
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i dont even know what i exactly do

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i think i do both

ionic citrus
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i mean

fossil lintel
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There you go

ionic citrus
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u kill 10s of Jackpot

vivid vessel
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i think it doesnt matter bro

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just press buttons

ionic citrus
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but u guarantee not tier 1 roll

gaunt phoenix
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statistically it wont matter

ionic citrus
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wich is nice.

ionic citrus
vivid vessel
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i log 100s but sure

ionic citrus
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i have a 99 overall friend who says: "i just press the glowing stuff."

vivid vessel
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99 bit low

keen belfry
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toxic

ionic citrus
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My ass.

gaunt phoenix
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I dont believe in my luck enough to roll over 10s of jackpot

keen belfry
vivid vessel
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@keen belfry

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how did you fix

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bf text

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not centered

outer meteor
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for 10 sec of jackpot

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during adr

keen belfry
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added + number to your code

outer meteor
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xd

gilded tinsel
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It’s perfect bro he has bte 6stacks of pistolshot and Adren coming up

ionic citrus
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I do have a strong believe based on previous evidence that wasting that Loaded Dice will cost me 20s of 5 energy spam with Tier 1 roll.

gilded tinsel
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The line up of the gods

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(I haven’t played Outlaw in 4 tiers)

gaunt phoenix
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ShizorkHOLY

novel isle
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Trickster is easier iv heard

gaunt phoenix
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It is but its just jank

fossil lintel
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It's not a matter of being easy

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It's a matter of....

novel isle
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I mean we got +13% DPS lets not complain

fossil lintel
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Ah I ran out energy, will finish that in 5s

novel isle
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iv never played trickster so idk

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im on holiday atm so cant play πŸ˜„

nova blaze
keen belfry
fossil lintel
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We got 13% damage in exchange for significantly worse gameplay

ionic citrus
prisma lantern
nova blaze
ionic citrus
novel isle
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people complained about energy issues on FB too

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but that was skill issues

ionic citrus
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bro but is nothing compared to now

fossil lintel
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Trickster has it a lot worse

ionic citrus
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having 50 energy with 5 cp

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and BUILDING to 6 is hell.

novel isle
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look forward to finding it out πŸ˜„

fossil lintel
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Even Zac swapped to haste flask, definitely not a skill issue with trickster πŸ˜‚

vestal grail
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guys for bte is at 6 or more combo points or at max?

frozen quest
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how do you sim for gear upgrades? 5 bosses ? or dungeon slice?

novel isle
hardy anchor
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I'm planning to spend my bonus loot rolls on NPX. It has both a dagger and a 1H mace for outlaw in the loot pool. If I start in subtlety loot spec for maximum chance of the myth dagger and then swap to outlaw loot spec once I get it, will the no duplicate loot effect of the bonus rolls reset after switching my loot spec?

keen belfry
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especially now too

twilit axle
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Here is a question on rtb. If I have rtb at 3+ currently, and it is close to running out. I have loaded dice and kir , and adr is up soon. do you kir the 3+ buff and just extend, or do you roll for new when it is about to end and kir the new buff?

gaunt phoenix
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You kir the 3 you have

cyan shell
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Any recommendations for a decent HUD for outlaw? I have difficulty tracking buffs and procs

tepid star
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
gaunt phoenix
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And if you munch a loaded dice, oh well

twilit axle
ionic citrus
# vivid vessel just press buttons

https://youtu.be/Ipfs7yB7n10?t=77

Zac, this guy presses RtB b4 AR

Zac

My UI: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ-spyZPGZ4y5diilAnap5nEybU7fWY5nFUNala5rjQ7bPxLKQLWRCVLdmFImcX4_WvvTKE3sKz3Q2g/pub

Talents used are always the same: KIR Fatebound with elusiveness. (You can play cheat death in low keys or while learning) CQQAByFP3pExAEG41/8+e6b8fDgx2MYmZmZmtZmZmZmHYmFeAmZbaZw2MAAAAAALLzMzwMzMzYmZ2GAAAAGADmtZ...

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gaunt phoenix
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Yes

keen belfry
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yeah that scenario always ends up munching a LD, but at the cost of having more 3 buff uptime so who cares

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and dont u dare reroll 3buff wiith 20s remaining

gaunt phoenix
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You are still most likely to loaded dice a 2

ionic citrus
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zac has the ugliest ui i've ever seen in my entire life

gaunt phoenix
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Nice

placid ocean
keen belfry
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brain boom

ionic citrus
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to see his gameplay thro this ui is just how to see ana de armas wearing ugly pajamas.

keen belfry
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banger

placid ocean
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I think I need to play a simpler spec. My brain is too cooked by the time I get home from my day job

keen belfry
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lemme google ana de arma ugly pajamas

ionic citrus
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theres no ugly pajamas on that girl. forget it.

frozen quest
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do i rly sim ST for m+ gear comparison and gems?

gaunt phoenix
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for outlaw our gear doesnt really change

frozen quest
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i wanna see what rings i should take and gems for m+ only

prisma lantern
gaunt phoenix
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It would be the same thing in st

frozen quest
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okay then i sim st thanks

jagged plover
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the texture you use for combo points is gross

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otherwise it's alright doe

jolly geyser
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im 280 eq,ready for world quests

vivid vessel
jagged plover
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ya i hate that shit garf

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flat always looks best to me

frozen quest
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why is like killing spree all the way right side ? and not after blade rush wanna know the thought behind that and having prep in 2nd bar

desert tendon
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I hate zac personnally

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but it's fine

jagged plover
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i mean u can move those

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it's just what makes sense to you

jolly geyser
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zac pissed in my shoes last night, hate him

vivid vessel
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@gaunt phoenix

jagged plover
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i put rtb and kir next to eachother cuz that makes sense to me

vivid vessel
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i have kir ready, no loaded and im on a 2

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do i gamble or

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with sleight

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as in reroll

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i forgot

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waht you said last time

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about sleight

gaunt phoenix
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i dont think so

frozen quest
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my alleria neck hc gets outsimmed by hc
Barbed Ymirheim Choker? πŸ˜›

gaunt phoenix
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Isnt that neck haste mastery

quaint wharf
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it is

outer meteor
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@keen belfry are u ever saving br for orbs on dragons?

frozen quest
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yes it is

outer meteor
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i tried holding it for like 5 sec max

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and didnt like it

keen belfry
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solo whats the nuymber for effectice cd on outlaw abiltiies now

frozen quest
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there i am now

jagged plover
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i miss making glow conditions for my monkey brain

keen belfry
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previously it was 1/6th of its cd

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is it the same?

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i might be misremembering too

quick ridge
light kernel
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jpc transmog

frozen quest
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yep og jpc

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sadly i cant get crucible anymore i deleted it before i swapped to orc πŸ˜› now its not in item restoration

keen belfry
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ur trinkets are as good as it

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276 prism is a263 crucible

outer meteor
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gaze havers

frozen quest
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ok there was still a upgrade head now im better on stats

light kernel
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@keen belfry did u bonus roll dreamrift

keen belfry
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yuh

light kernel
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no luck?

keen belfry
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chest

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so upgrade

light kernel
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atleast not 2nd trinket

keen belfry
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but next week is 1/3 chance of upgrade

frozen quest
light kernel
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i got gaze in vault dunno where to spend bonus rolls XD

outer meteor
keen belfry
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yeah

outer meteor
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2/3 for me

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but ill get the shit trinket for sure

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its a canonical event

keen belfry
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imma get the trinket natty

light kernel
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ive got all 3 from it

keen belfry
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lootcouncil (im on loot council) should give it to me

light kernel
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might send bonus rolls on maisara lmao

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for weap

outer meteor
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a gaze dropped yday but i didnt get it besad

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trial life

jolly geyser
keen belfry
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i just have no point in bonsu rolling in dgeunons for a while

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since no myth crests

outer meteor
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tru

keen belfry
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like next week im upgrading my necklace, and maybe something i get from raid or vault or bonus roll

frank finch
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stonks

outer meteor
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i have like 2 myth pieces i cant upgrade rn

jolly geyser
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finally I can buy myth crests, since I got ring from piece of shit

frozen quest
jolly geyser
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thats not him

frank finch
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im not wowtoxic

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i wish

sly bone
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i think the wowhead page has a pretty good shout for that tbh

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PoS

ancient cobalt
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@vivid vessel bro u said i can trust my sim ok, ignore the solar flare i was just lookin, but +400 dps to crit flask but ill only have like 18% haste or i flask up ..

outer meteor
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60k

ancient cobalt
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everyone tellin me ignore the sim...

thorn parrot
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Ignore the sim

ancient cobalt
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but he said trust the sim

sly bone
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400 dps is in the range of RTB RNG Bullshit

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ignore the sim imo

frank finch
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i trusted the sim and felt somwthing was wrong

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sim also said to stay at 18% haste in favor of crit

ancient cobalt
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ok

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i cant get to the higher %s anyways but mayber i can get to 20%

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my haste down bad]

jolly geyser
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but but muh sims

ancient cobalt
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i hit the dmmy for like 3 hrs yesterday and foreverguy walked up to me and laughed at my rotation

thorn parrot
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πŸ™

ancient cobalt
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but i mastered it now see u at the top

jolly geyser
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just vibe game

vivid vessel
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!atro

ornate heathBOT
vivid vessel
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@mighty pivot

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send

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and tell fuu to update the doc link

prisma lantern
unique fulcrum
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which poison do you guys use for dungeons

pastel cedar
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if we have stage 2 of rtb do we keep fishing for a 3+ stage so we can use KIR?

unique fulcrum
mighty pivot
vivid vessel
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ah

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i wanted lura

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idk if feint works on intermission ticking damage

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the one rogue that killed the boss in mythic

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didnt feint once

mighty pivot
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shattered sky?

prisma lantern
vivid vessel
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in hc

limpid sky
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does any1 know hpw outlaw can do the tyrant/voidcaller skip before last boss in MT? πŸ˜”

vivid vessel
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so i guess

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i feint

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when i have thingy

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to lower a bit

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the damage

mighty pivot
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but also yeah for abilities that are shared with lower difficulties I don't think there is any instance where it works on one but not the other, unless it completely changes how it functions

fresh kraken
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!ui

ornate heathBOT
limpid sky
cinder relic
vivid vessel
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no its good

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i know it doesnt work

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on lines

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i was wondering about the pusling damage

cinder relic
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The actual ticking damage of intermission is super low

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It should work tho

haughty wigeon
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is outlaw good now?

placid ocean
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Yesn't

wintry solar
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KS and prep make it kind of annoying atm but it's not that bad

jolly geyser
lucid sparrow
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whats the dps diff

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of skyfury over druid mark

haughty wigeon
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design is ass :3

placid ocean
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Outlaw is good ||for a rogue||

jolly geyser
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titles kinda useless these days

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people got all kinds of profiles on

proven surge
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LETS GOOOOOOOO CHIMA MYTHIC DOWN GAZE DOWN ROLL GAZE ROLL 1 ! NP ! I HAVE BONUS ROLL ! WOW BELT ! I NEEDED IT ! NO GAZE HAVING AAH WEEK 5 AAH

jolly geyser
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gz

deep sequoia
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is there a way to reduce the smok from cloud cover?

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smoke*

placid ocean
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Cancel it out by taking a hit from your vape every time you press AR

vivid vessel
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@gaunt phoenix should make a pin about that btw

deep sequoia
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appreciate it

vivid vessel
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cause its cringe !

brittle lake
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!ui

ornate heathBOT
brittle lake
brittle lake
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is it good for sin?

vivid vessel
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sure

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its fine

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maybe you will tell me something is missing idk

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i progged 1h of beloren

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as sin

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with my ui

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!

brittle lake
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noice ty

vivid vessel
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thats how much i tested it

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but i have the thingy tracked

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apex

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with fnisher buff tracked

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to do the minmax thing

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and idk

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fuck does assa even track nowadays

brittle lake
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bro i came back on monday this is all gibberish to me but

vivid vessel
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cuck spec !

brittle lake
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i will do my best

true dust
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could it be that nexus point is a bad dungeon for us? i had great dps on spire but then in nexus point i couldn't really keep up

jolly geyser
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when you gotta clear the beams it hurts

normal quail
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first mythic day of new patch and holy energy does not exist like 4+ mins

tepid star
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Hey guys, can some1 help me out, ive problems to deal dmg as outlaw somehow my bf deels waay less dmg as other in logs

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but im kinda clueless whats the problem

ancient cobalt
pastel cloud
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anyone alse got a bug where smoke bomb just does not happen

prisma lantern
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If you don't have energy, distract won't go off and you lose the smoke

pastel cloud
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oh fuck dude

prisma lantern
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It's bug. But basically they macrod in distract lol

proven surge
violet osprey
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i dont feel the 13%

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at all

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😭

elder sonnet
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are you guys using crit or haste flask?

native tinsel
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I miss the old acro talent so damn much

tired rune
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first voidcore roll great success

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all downhill from here

proven surge
tired rune
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mythic POS bracers

proven surge
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Gz bro

crimson scarab
placid ocean
stuck sparrow
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unlaaki if anyone raid rolled prior to the fix

crimson scarab
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and i can also see it my numbers

stuck sparrow
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because the pool is still full

quiet zenith
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I have a question, maybe someone knows: on the aoe opener it says to open with blade flurry - blade rush - bte, on some high level key Videos if seen blade flurry - blade rush - KS - build to bte, why is that?

placid ocean
violet osprey
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also im on 38% crit 23% haste crit sims better but should i do haste?

earnest sphinx
violet osprey
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i can recraft engi head but i aint sure

placid ocean
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Wait, it's belt with the socket. Not bracers

stuck sparrow
placid ocean
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Or both?

stuck sparrow
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already got my gaze weeks ago so dont matter

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xd

earnest sphinx
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I rolled gaze

glass mortar
earnest sphinx
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So i got out of renowntrinket prison

stuck sparrow
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lol same i was using renown trinket

earnest sphinx
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i got guidon first week

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After so unlucky

stuck sparrow
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atp its whatever

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i have 4 2/6 mythic items

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so even if my vaults are grief

earnest sphinx
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I have 4 mythic oozing vestiges bro

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In my inv

stuck sparrow
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did you pug

earnest sphinx
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no

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funny enough i got the gaze pugging

stuck sparrow
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i saw an alleria neck on hc

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in a pug

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mage that died 30 secs into p3 got it

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#deserved

earnest sphinx
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Was benched for paladins but vacation is over

wooden ember
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Does anyone know how big of a dam diff 5cp vs 6 cp is with the finishers for trickster?

worldly shale
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and it only dropped on hc

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feelsbadman

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am looking cute tho ig

stuck sparrow
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we were talking myth gaze

earnest sphinx
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how can you see your stats like that

worldly shale
earnest sphinx
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give hax

worldly shale
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on myuth

stuck sparrow
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also idk what that mog is

worldly shale
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wa

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ill dm string

worldly shale
stuck sparrow
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just wear the matrix coat

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if you're lazy

earnest sphinx
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WaS are working?

worldly shale
lyric bay
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Stupid question and probably nobody will answer, but since some people are using M33k here, is it possible to import TWW WA (i'll keep what i can)

earnest sphinx
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Am i cluegi

worldly shale
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found link

worldly shale
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m33kauras

earnest sphinx
lyric bay
timid idol
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has anyone pugged chimaerus

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i know the mechs and shit and it doesn't seem too hard but how hard is it with pugs

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cause im really close to just sending x2 rolls in pit

earnest sphinx
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it is doable

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just need patience

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should be a lot easier with 1%extra buff

timid idol
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i have patience for the boss idk if i have patience to keep these bonus rolls

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this shit is like drugs

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every time i do a dungeon

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and the bonus roll thing appears

earnest sphinx
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i know exactly what u mean

timid idol
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i get ocd

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i must press the bonus roll button

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its taunting me

real mauve
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wowanalyzer doesn't work only for outlaw?

earnest sphinx
timid idol
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did we already get 1% or is that starting next week

earnest sphinx
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we are at 2%now

timid idol
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oh shit

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maybe i hold on then Hmm

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either way

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i hate admiting this but

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the spec feels good

lyric bay
timid idol
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damage is good, imo trickster and ks is fun bcs i played alot with it in tww so i dont mind it

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the only nitpick i have for blizz is energy is even worse with trickster

lyric bay
timid idol
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if they could give us the tiniest bit of help with energy outlaw would be back to tww s3 for me

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in terms of fun

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but i cant complain too much, we got da buffs, it feels pretty good

lyric bay
earnest sphinx
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yea

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its on also

lyric bay
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Weird, just installed it like that

earnest sphinx
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im always special what can i say

lyric bay
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U're using the release link?

earnest sphinx
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using this link

lyric bay
earnest sphinx
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failed

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ill check it after my aram

pastel cloud
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on a big pull do i wanna use ar for cp after prep or do i wait for the 3 stacks of fazed to fall off and then use ?

cedar bone
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was unlucky on chimearus mythic and got the wrong trinket.. is this still any good?

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i got hc prism and cosmos trinket

placid ocean
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Sim it

cedar bone
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single target minor increase

long bramble
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this is the payback from all the shitty coins on my rogue in mop 100%

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into insta decline from a key cuz not sub

earnest sphinx
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shouldnt it be the other way around

buoyant ridge
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am i behind the curve, or did they break the tricks/focus macro?

tepid star
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
sonic pawn
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@buoyant ridge you are behind the curve πŸ˜„ use TankMD addon

abstract frost
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!prekey

ornate heathBOT
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  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
sonic pawn
placid ocean
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Do they know sub is all pad?

buoyant ridge
junior sierra
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!prekey

ornate heathBOT
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  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
next shuttle
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Hi, why are we using Deft Maneuvers on our ST build?

shut blaze
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should i use Instant and numbing poison ?

pastel cedar
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why is droptimzer only simming trinktes and weapons from dungeons with the voidcores?

blazing wraith
daring yoke
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fuck i miss FB 😭

cinder relic
river wing
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anyone else seeing their crit go down a few % after the patch?

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I'm pretty sure I had 41% unbuffed, now it's 38% despite a couple of upgrades increasing crit

long bramble
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should craft dagger and stick to my bracers or do i craft bracers?

river wing
buoyant cosmos
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thinking about spec in 10s is unhealthy

long bramble
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yeah bro that s why i didnt even discuss with him i m spamming skyreach for trinket

prisma lantern
long bramble
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bro tbh in a 10

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i would go even in 4

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1 tank 1 dps and 1 healer i m down too

final pagoda
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what are graphic settings to remove this shitty fartcloud?

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just died 2x in alghetar swirls

buoyant cosmos
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Particle density

final pagoda
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low?

buoyant cosmos
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sure

royal cave
random stirrup
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@vivid vessel myth achievement is 285 ilvl

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pretty sure alt discount method still works

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big things coming soon with them also able to roll with voidcores

buoyant cosmos
frank finch
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this whole voicore refund is a mess

buoyant cosmos
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I think I remember a friend telling me that a while ago

random stirrup
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ye in tww3 you could upgrade a slot on an alt that your main still didnt have maxed

frank finch
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i get fucked cuz i decided to wait cuz of bugs

random stirrup
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and you would get myth discount on main

buoyant cosmos
random stirrup
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I get 285 achieve next week prob and it reduces my remaining crest cost from like 400 to 200

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crazy

valid badge
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What dps should be decent at ilv 275 overall in 12-14 keys ? I feel that 130k is abit weak :/

buoyant cosmos
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@frank finch "but you could totally get the piece of loot you already had"

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nevermind you're doubling your rolls lol

vivid vessel
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i was thinking about it

frank finch
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healer in my raid used all 3 and got all different look so now he gets 3 more? lmao

vivid vessel
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im almost 285

frank finch
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unlucky

buoyant cosmos
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real

random stirrup
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as long as I get a usable vault i have the crests to do it

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if alleria neck is in there i get to already start benefitting from discount

jolly geyser
vivid vessel
keen belfry
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i keep farting with no energy

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and i lose my cloud

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SORRY I PRESS AR AT LOW ENERGY ITS ALMOST LIKE I PRESS IT TO GET ENERGY BACK GUYS!

ancient cobalt
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guys i have mythic neck from raid its basically like the pit neck what do i bonus roll omfg

keen belfry
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gaze

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crown

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pit still good if u have crests

jolly geyser
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4 bonus rolls should reroll your vault

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gamba

thorn parrot
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Amen brother

junior sierra
keen belfry
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yeah crown

junior sierra
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oh for mainhand?

keen belfry
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and

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trinky

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anbd

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necky

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and legs if u need tier there etc

tepid star
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zac is it trickster or fatebound in keys now?

brave lagoon
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trickster everywhere

outer meteor
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does arms still gap outlaw

dusty magnet
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For blade furry should we only be pressing it to extend the buff or is there target situations where we should be pressing it for combo points/DMG

brave lagoon
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4+ target is worth pressing for cp, I think 3 as well? I forgot

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yeah 3+ is fine

ancient cobalt
buoyant cosmos
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don't remind zac for not taking that trinket when no one wanted it

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team player

violet osprey
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we go second boss pit 20 with 14 min timer and my healer was getting bombed my rng is crazy these days

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AAAAAAAAA

tired wolf
#

starting vaelgar prog tonight, should i just go AoE talents

worldly shale
#

damn we are getting refunds of voidcores

#

poggies

wanton sparrow
#

how many crafted are we supossed to have 3 or 4?

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at this time in the season?

violet osprey
#

like if u rerolled 2 same items or ?

worldly shale
#

idk i used them instantly, didnt get dupes

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but the post says its everyone that used them, even if they are not dupes

#
World of Warcraft Forums

Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...

violet osprey
#

u can still do it even if u used it on raid tho no ? πŸ‘€

worldly shale
#

ehh ig if u did it on reset

#

it seems they fixed it

buoyant cosmos
#

If you used them before last night at like 8/20? PST you get them back

worldly shale
#

April 22 (05:05 CEST April 23)

#

yea

buoyant cosmos
#

Pretty much just NA beta testers

worldly shale
#

not really thats wed

#

i used them on wed

violet osprey
#

automatically or ?

buoyant cosmos
worldly shale
#

they fixed it thursday 5 am

#

im guessing

buoyant cosmos
#

Yeah I'm off a day

violet osprey
#

wait and u keep the item too ? πŸ’€

worldly shale
#

i got 2 different ones

violet osprey
#

LMFAO

#

nah thats crazy

worldly shale
#

belt and cape from pit

buoyant cosmos
#

Their rational is trash

#

"you might get another dupe"

worldly shale
#

it is, but this way its kinda not fucking up anyone XD

#

some are just getting more

#

than others

violet osprey
#

u cant reuse it on a raid twice tho can u?

worldly shale
#

hahahahaah

#

u cant yea until reset

violet osprey
#

like can i prob keep it next week for double gaze roll?

worldly shale
#

nah dont think u can do that

buoyant cosmos
#

You can only roll once per kill

#

afaik

violet osprey
#

ye pit it is then

worldly shale
#

and imagine if it saved my rolls

#

and i cant get belt and cape again

#

poggies

violet osprey
#

i got neck w avoidance

#

but that was today from the extra vault one

#

so its both saved and i can prolly roll 2 more

#

damn

#

ok but thats lowk bs cause on raid u didnt get the loot unticked and now u can get the same one twice

#

gaze in 1 month from now hell nah

hoary otter
#

okay, how blizz thought smokescreen in pve is a good idea

#

literally killing my team in m+ because they can't see stuff in it

worldly shale
#

but surely its skill issue

hoary otter
#

surely

blissful gate
#

its pretty bad

worldly shale
#

i sometimes dont even

#

see it

#

idk

#

maybe my settings different

#

i just vibe

hoary otter
#

when u just touch puddle by mistake in 17+ it half hps you

#

its not ok

#

when ppl cant see shit

blissful gate
#

ive lowered my particle density and it helps

glass mortar
#

if u nuke ur spell particle density it makes it more reasonable

frank hamlet
#

I feel weird when I use AR because I know it is harder to them see the floor

glass mortar
#

of course it also makes the game more ugly

frank hamlet
#

I feel like I'm killing them

glass mortar
#

but that sounds about right to have non toxic gameplay for outlaw

blissful gate
#

that shit on ultra was a cs2 smoke

glass mortar
daring venture
#

Hey guys, what would be our opener in raids ? Should we dispatch to have slice and dice ?

glass mortar
turbid robin
#

WHO HAVE SWORD DOESNT WANT IT ?

slim hare
#

!ui

ornate heathBOT
turbid robin
#

I WANNA PLAY OUTLAW

#

I DONT HAVE SWORD

thorn parrot
#

Make one!

turbid robin
#

I DONT HAVE CREST

lime lake
#

f

craggy barn
#

level a new rog

#

and craft a sword there

frank hamlet
#

That sounds fun

turbid robin
sage bronze
#

for raid we take atrophic over numbing right?

craggy barn
#

ye

near trout
#

hi , i was wondering how much haste should i aim for to be comfy ?

frank hamlet
#

I always use atrophic

craggy barn
#

!haste

ornate heathBOT
#

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

  • You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
  • Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
  • You have to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.
craggy barn
#

u can go over to liekj 28% in keys

frank hamlet
#

Should I use numbing for m+?

near trout
craggy barn
#

depends

#

usually nver wrong with playing atro always

frank hamlet
#

I see

near trout
#

so being 22% without buff is alr then if, i've understand what that thing is saying

lost folio
#

my guild/raid leader says rogues aren't picked for M+ content because they don't offer anything like other classes (lust, cc's, dispells, etc.) and not because they aren't part of the current meta. thoughts?

hollow bloom
#

I dunno cloud cover pretty good utility

frank hamlet
#

True

glass mortar
#

but yes, rogue utility is dumpster tier in general but especially in m+

frail veldt
#

It's all part of an overall value

#

If you don't bring all those things you mention, then you better bring damage

#

Which rogue often does

#

But a lot of specs can get away with non meter topping damage if it brings other things like a very strong DPS raid buff

#

Rogue cannot

lost folio
#

my argument was that rogues aren't taken because they aren't part of the current meta. he said he doesn't believe in all the meta stuff but looking at the weekly numbers for classes in mythic, rogues are dead last.

glass mortar
#

what does he mean doesnt believe in the "meta stuff"

lime lake
#

he doesnt believe in meta

frail veldt
#

They aren't in the meta because of those reasons they mentioned

glass mortar
#

that is a very weird statement

lime lake
#

what does that even mean

#

he doesnt believe in the concept that specific comps are brought each season?

#

or that specific classes are sometimes better than others

frail veldt
#

The lack of valuable raid buff, group defensives, aoe cc, etc is what makes it hard for rogue to be in meta in m+

lost folio
#

he doesn't believe that meta is really a thing. he said players can make a non-meta class just as good as a meta class if they play it right

glass mortar
#

but also ur not even disagreeing with him, the reasons he gave would be a part of the reason you arent part of the meta

#

well hes right and wrong

frail veldt
#

He's saying he doesn't believe the meta is a requirement

glass mortar
#

in the hands of the best players the meta specs will perform better then alternatives. thats generally why they are the meta

frail veldt
#

That doesn't mean he doesn't believe in the meta

glass mortar
#

but a good player can usually make any spec in the game work in all content in the game is true

frail veldt
#

He's picking his words poorly

glass mortar
#

the game is almost always tuned well enough for that

hollow bloom
#

Is he trying to kick some poor rogue?

frail veldt
#

He's correct that the meta is definitely not a requirement for 99% of players

hollow bloom
#

Whats the endgame? oof

glass mortar
#

we have very easy examples last season

frail veldt
#

But the meta isn't fake

glass mortar
#

the highest rated rogues in m+ in the world were outlaw

#

2 of them

frail veldt
#

It is usually quite accurate as to what the strongest specs are

glass mortar
#

while outlaw was doing like 10-20% less dps then the other people in its party

frail veldt
#

So even bad players would benefit from playing on meta

#

But you can compensate for non meta specs by playing better

lime lake
#

me seeing people say outlaw is strong bc zac is playing it while also watching zac constantly post himself losing to tank

frail veldt
#

People are bad at observing data

jagged plover
#

meta doesn't even necessarily have to be the most strong or uniquely strong thing either

frail veldt
#

But yeah rogue essentially has a higher bar to be in meta

#

Due to its other shortcomings

hollow bloom
#

Little bro is getting benched.

jagged plover
#

because zac is kinda cracked PogO

keen belfry
#

staying up late, creating an empire learning new tricks. got me feeling like an outlaw rogue, building till 6 (am)

#

thoughts?

random stirrup
keen belfry
#

awang of eu

craggy barn
keen belfry
#

is what they call him

craggy barn
#

rank 7 ez

ornate loom
#

Btw did our raiding performance get any better or not really?

cinder relic
#

Well it got better so it naturally has to

jagged plover
#

we're astroblasting now!

gray summit
#

raidbots put me some stuff who put me in 24% of haste

#

with flask

#

its normal ?

#

!haste

ornate heathBOT
#

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

  • You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
  • Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
  • You have to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.
hollow bloom
#

25% now for trickster. You can have more and be good too.

#

I usually down a haste flask to get to 30%

gray summit
#

ok buddy

nocturne heron
#

heyyy outlaw play with fatebound or trickster?

glass mortar
#

trickster

river wing
#

trickster as of this reset

digital gale
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#
  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
red pike
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
buoyant cosmos
digital gale
#

depend on the initial pull i think

quiet ore
gray summit
#

In pit ? Awesome.

#

In magieter ? Legacy.

unkempt iris
#

this season's loot is so buns

#

only 3 good trinkets, they never seem to drop AND everyone needs them. tanks and to an extent healers included

digital gale
#

yo guys quick question, its worth to get Belo'ren trinket in Mastery version and then use the active to get the Crit version or its better just get the Crit version instead?

buoyant cosmos
#

It's the same trinket

digital gale
#

oh

#

i see, thx

glass mortar
plain ravine
#

damn that scam is still going around?

glass mortar
#

@quiet ore

hollow bloom
formal thunder
#

so what's the move on the shield phase in Cavern 2nd boss? Do we just AFK or just live with the fact that we are grieving our entire group with our fart cloud?

glass mortar
#

well what do you mean, you do ur rotation

#

if one of ur rotational abilities is griefing ur allies and causing them to get hit by stuff thats between them, blizzard and god

#

sounds like its someone elses thing to fix

#

cant believe this ability went live like this

shadow trellis
#

This patch is so giga buggy

slim hare
#

absolutely intentional

#

you dont see it in raid

formal thunder
#

Ohhh I get it now

slim hare
#

but in m+ you do

formal thunder
#

Blizzard isn't happy that we lost our anti utility with new KS, so now they reintroduced rogue's ability to kill your teammates

shadow trellis
#

Never trust a Rogue

shadow trellis
nova sinew
#

OUTLAW !!!!!!!

vivid vessel
#

whatdehelly

nova sinew
#

it only takes 500 pulls

vivid vessel
#

you killed as outlaw ?

nova sinew
#

yeah

vivid vessel
#

huge gamer

nova sinew
#

damage was

vivid vessel
#

how was boss damage

#

my theory rn is that outlaw tops boss damage

nova sinew
#

153 total 146 boss

#

think im washed

zenith sequoia
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#
  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
vivid vessel
#

well its not that bad !

buoyant cosmos
#

First law kill?

#

Unless Ivaz did it

shadow trellis
nova sinew
#

rank 1 outlaw

#

get absolutely destroyed

buoyant cosmos
#

New druitile

#

How was sub v outlaw?

nova sinew
#

sub mogs t f out of outlaw in p4

#

fo sho

#

the best sub parsei s crazy in p4

#

but both pretty close

#

overall

buoyant cosmos
#

Oh yeah secret tech damage amp must be dopamine to the max

nova sinew
#

wel lalso

#

its easy to time

#

cloud cover as sub in p4

#

you just pop at the start

#

outlaw it comes up at ???

#

so you might be running

#

but in geenral

#

sub with dance = outlaw

#

like sub no blades

#

sorry

#

cant type anymore

buoyant cosmos
#

All good, probably shaking still lol

random stirrup
vivid vessel
#

what does that matter

#

you means secret phase?

#

right

#

why would sub no blades = outlaw

#

tho

#

that makes no sense

#

outlaw for sure does more st than sub rn

wintry solar
glass mortar
#

@vivid vessel

#

could u imagine

#

sniped

#

blizzard has given priests 2 much power smh

vivid vessel
#

could never happen to me

#

also 1 pi invalidate a log in my book

#

any log with a pi is sinned

#

must be purged

glass mortar
#

tru

buoyant cosmos
#

Cancel aura on all abilities

glass mortar
#

i dont think it matters

#

if the log picks up u got doubled in a short time

#

its just gone

#

i dont know if it even checks for uptime anymore

#

like in this log the normal priest PI cut off the other priests troll PI like 5 seconds in

#

still invalidated it tho lul

#

i know in alt raid in seasons we've had multiple priests theyd do this to troll on farm

river wing
#

legit spent more time queueing for pit than clearing it
oh well, at least it's three useful items, moving over to seat next week probs unless I get something good in vault

buoyant cosmos
#

Some people

glass mortar
#

yup lul

#

bro ive had my outlaw logs invalidated by those bozos

buoyant cosmos
glass mortar
#

didnt really care tho

buoyant cosmos
#

I didn't try parsing much either

#

Bothered my guild lol

river wing
buoyant cosmos
static rapids
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#
  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
haughty wigeon
#

I see a lot of Rogues in Silvermoon city which is a beautiful city BTW and good job WoW art team! You play too much pally to know this. Paladins spend a lot of time bubble hearthing to Dalaran so they miss out on the obvious signs.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

static geyser
#

Should I not be popping AR as trickster until im in range? Since the smoke cloud thing

gaunt phoenix
#

in keys there is a bit of waiting

normal pagoda
#

!sheet

ornate heathBOT
ashen void
lime lake
#

the pro strat

daring yoke
#

bro jackpot and KIR but no energy 😭

near pulsar
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#
  • Use adr Adrenaline Rush to activate loaded_dice Loaded Dice.
  • As Trickster, use ks KS to activate talent_disorientingstrikes Disorienting Strikes.
  • Do NOT use rtb RTB before the key, you will lose it.
  • Use snd SND during the bubble once the key starts.
stuck patrol
#

This is so cursed

green star
#

is there any kind of suplement for weak auras, I need something telling me im missing RTB, im so bad at refreshing it 😭

daring yoke
#

i see there are some FB enjoyers top in the raid logs. i wonder how much of an actual difference between trickster and fb is

stuck patrol
#

@gaunt phoenix i haven't seen anything about this-- should we avoid spending a supercharged CP on KS, esp now that we use it at 5 cps?

fair sparrow
#

!bugs

ornate heathBOT
fair sparrow
#

ok i still confused

#

!rtb

ornate heathBOT
#

How to use rtb RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and supercharger Supercharger)

  • Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
  • Roll if you have 2 buffs and rtb Loaded Dice is active.
  • Roll once asap after pressing kir KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border).
  • After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.
fair sparrow
#

fk

#

is there a reason my rtb buffs are randomly poofing

#

(from CDM)

daring yoke
#

yeah its a bug

fair sparrow
#

NICE MAN

#

NICE

#

W BUGS

daring yoke
fathom bramble
#

maybe a container bug ?

ionic flint
#

check out the pinned messages

fathom bramble
#

idk if we are really that sure

#

but get the weakaura for it

fair sparrow
#

where that at

#

im not outlaw resource goated

fathom bramble
#

pins

fair sparrow
#

i see it

#

ty

tulip basin
#

What M+ trinket is good for bonus roll besides Solar?

random stirrup
#

smoke bomb a bit cursed on this lura guy

#

sometimes its mega free and sometimes i have to hold or else i drop it in a beam as we run away

nova sinew
#

half the isze

#

of th area you move

#

not that bad

#

just hti a little grapple

#

to wher eyou need to be

#

promise

#

and even if you drop it in th beam

#

you just grapple back

#

or walk to it

#

it sreall not that bad

#

you could just play sub thouhgh that never happens for sub

wintry solar
#

I'd believe them had they not say something similar what seems like every other 2 patches

nova sinew
#

which discord was this from

buoyant cosmos
random stirrup
buoyant cosmos
#

wow portal room

random stirrup
#

i am guessing sometimes to grapple back in

buoyant cosmos
#

It's also a blue post that just went out

nova sinew
#

im just looking at

#

adr at 5s

random stirrup
#

was mostly predicting where boss would end up and press adr ahead of time

#

tactical bomb deployment

buoyant cosmos
#

I just realized why AR cloud doesn't work

eternal hound
eternal hound
#

they jank coded it and made it cast a special distract

buoyant cosmos
#

what a patch

outer meteor
#

bro im getting out of energy crazy style on paladins

daring yoke
burnt dragon
#

anyone use the Text to speech cooldown callouts notice that they got really quiet after the patch?

fair sparrow
#

wait

#

that RTB wa

#

it only shows if you have it up

#

it doesnt show what you rolled

#

am i ret, is that all it can do right now

cinder relic
#

U need to track RTB as a bar to see what you have

fair sparrow
#

oh

#

ok ill change that next pull ty

random stirrup
#

my rtb turns off every lura pull

#

good times

keen belfry
#

yes

#

wtf is going on

#

i lost the buff like, 20 times tn

pliant heath
#

relogging makes it a little less bad for a bit

#

seemingly

random stirrup
#

its ok i have my training from old outlaw

#

i mentally keep track of what buff i have perma

#

the zac wa is enough for me

burnt dragon
fair sparrow
#

arcui just

#

doesnt allow bars

#

i guess

#

idk

#

whatever man ill just keep looking at my buff bar

#

as im dodging glaives

#

and doing my rotation

daring yoke
#

we send KS at 5 CP. but if we dont have much energy, would be better to send it at higher CP? supercharged even?

long barn
#

Anyone have WA to track the stupid cloud time reminder on floor? Is it the same as ADR?

#

I need to know how much time I have left to dip in

daring yoke
foggy needle
#

if i wanted to play outlaw
but i don't have a better alternative to Mguidon + Hgaze
should I keep guidon or run the renown trinket :/
if i keep it, where would you even use guidon

long barn
#

Shouldn’t it be once ADR is @ 5 seconds left it’s gone?

#

Or am I backwards

daring yoke
#

yeah 5 secs ADR left

#

since adr buff is 15 secs, and fart on floor is 10s

keen belfry
#

@gaunt phoenix u must check dms

hazy fox
#

Any one have a good addon for the uptime of RTB and BF? Feel let them drop to often (picked uo the class yesterday XD)

#

or ui (are using Luxthos) right now

daring yoke
#

!ui

ornate heathBOT
hazy fox
#

ty

keen belfry
#

https://youtu.be/WUEPtnKOhLw?si=9K4L2dHhkXdAPL-1 @vivid vessel this guy called us idiots

fathom bramble
#

bad at law unlucky

#

or maybe not idk

#

wait isn't this guy a pvper ?

keen belfry
#

yes rank 1 guy

gaunt phoenix
#

pika HOLY

keen belfry
#

@cosmic raven fuck you man

gaunt phoenix
#

wtf

daring yoke
#

lmaoo

cinder relic
#

Bro what

tiny temple
#

sorry to bother, is dispatch at 5CP?

icy peak
#

nice kicks

gaunt phoenix
#

with trickster tree you dispatch at 6

lavish shoal
#

@buoyant stratus sit down buddy!

#

notamaid on top!

#

(heroic weapon)

daring yoke
fossil lintel
#

I can't for the life of me do damage on the first pull of AA

lavish shoal
fossil lintel
#

is there like a trick to it? do i need a tank who don't just run in random directions contantly?

lavish shoal
#

pot BR > BR

livid smelt
#

out of curiosity why do you dispatch at 6 now instead of 5?

fathom bramble
#

focus on where the tank is and is going

#

you need to move out of the circles with him

#

and have 100% uptime

gaunt phoenix
fossil lintel
#

yeah but like

#

the tank has full uptime on 3 lashers

#

they are just full kiting everything else

molten oasis
#

What's the sheet that's shoes you the % value of each buff

gaunt phoenix
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
fathom bramble
#

like the little guys are slowed or something and get separated from the pack ?

fossil lintel
#

yeah

restive creek
#

I miss Fatebound T.T

fossil lintel
#

and the insects just keep flying off to hit people

fathom bramble
#

you should be able to keep 7 other enemies within range still

#

unless the tank is doing some crazy kiting that I haven't really seen

fossil lintel
#

at the end there's 3 lashers near the tank cause they don't get slowed and the rest is like this long tail of trailing shit

keen belfry
#

dodge small marvin

#

follow tank

fathom bramble
#

if the tank is making some kind of trailing pack instead of minimizing movement and keeping it grouped then idk

fossil lintel
#

the tank just picks the most random direction though

keen belfry
#

ye u goptta literally look at him

fossil lintel
#

ok, will try that

lavish shoal
#

@keen belfry wangbar goated btw

#

ty for that!

fossil lintel
#

I'll mark the tank next time

lavish shoal
fathom bramble
#

wangbar still the only resource bar that can look the way I want it

sonic pawn
#

So if i understand correctly the voidcore bonus rolls if used before April 22 at 8 pm PDT time (before the fix) are being refunded ?

restive creek
#

If I have one Supercharger and no BTE, and I have KS and Coup, what is the priority? If it is KS, how many CP should I choose?

daring yoke
tiny onyx
#

Are we SnD with our first adrenaline in opener even in raids?

fossil lintel
gaunt phoenix
fossil lintel
#

if you want to cheese it just don't roll on the same content you rolled before the fix

gaunt phoenix
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i would just ks at 5

sonic pawn
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i chose pit as sub for the dagger which i got so wouldn't that just be removed if i switch to outlaw anyway ?

fossil lintel
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did you get the dagger? then yes

sonic pawn
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yeah i did

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gaming

gusty glacier
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Anyone knows a good video guide on how to play outlaw?

fossil lintel
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i got back and pants from pit =/

green star
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If im bonus rolling pit should I stay outlaw is any of the other specs better? Prob doesnt matter right ?

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Talking about loot spec *

restive creek
gaunt phoenix
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you are losing something, but if you skip KS, then you lose cooldown reduction on it

lavish shoal
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if your first supercharged bte doesnt reset then you just ks at 5+