outlaw

[potent latch]

if i take wrist from vault i will still get it from bonus roll right?

[slow pagoda]

Yes

It only gets locked if you get it from tokens

[jagged plover]

i think unless something in dungeon row is BIS it's completely troll taking it from vault instead of just using a bonus roll in a dungeon instead

since at least you're eliminating something from the pool assuming you want multiple things from the dungeon

[urban inlet]

I assume Pit is the best for outlaw aswell to use the bonus rolls if we dont raid mythic right?

[blissful idol]

ye

i did and got neck

[urban inlet]

damn, gratz

[blissful idol]

had champion before so big

@vivid vessel do u switch wound poison at all in caverns?

[vivid vessel]

i remove it before first bsos

[blissful idol]

ty

[urban inlet]

btw does anyone know if i have to clear a dungeon multiple times to bonus roll multiple times?

[blissful idol]

yes

[urban inlet]

or can i roll 2-3x with 1 clear

[blissful idol]

you need to run it x2

[urban inlet]

ah okay ty

ill actually even run it 3x

[blissful idol]

bad luck protection?

[urban inlet]

well my vault was ass, so i picked the 6 coins and bought another bonusroll

[blissful idol]

ye that's good

could have waited for socket maybe

after using x2 tokens

[fossil sable]

Didn't know this was possible

[urban inlet]

yeah true, but i think any mythic item from pit is better than 16crit/7 haste atm xd

[waxen scarab]

is trickster ass at dungeons?

[tropic zephyr]

no it's the recommended build for all content

[karmic gust]

need to get used to new rotation, got higher damage at start of dungeon but lower overall

[unique fulcrum]

i already miss fatebound

[rare panther]

trickster is better now ?

after buffs

[unique fulcrum]

sadly

[karmic gust]

13% better yes

fatebound feels more snappy

[hybrid flax]

@urban inlet if u gonna coin multiple times, report back pls so we kno if duplicate bug is fixed or na

xd

[urban inlet]

will do

[fickle stream]

any dg u guys think is good for use the roll

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix huge vibes gain btw

[fickle stream]

i dont have the mythic weapon so

[rocky gulch]

the 1h sword crafts next week is gonna go crazy

[glass quartz]

is there a good roll the bones / keep it rolling addon that plays a sound when we get 3 sets or jackpot?

[random stirrup]

@vivid vessel which of your pulls were you at 300k on

[vivid vessel]

@frail veldt fix it

[unique fulcrum]

what's sc again

[random stirrup]

im trying to go through and see the tech but they're all like 250k on the first burn

[hasty void]

just checking in after maining Outlaw Monk at the start of the season, are we So Back™?

[vivid vessel]

i dont think i ever got 3 full sec tech

usually it was 2 ticks in

only

[random stirrup]

also this boss' logs are so cursed

why are all the burn dps numbers different from last night

i dont get it

[swift moon]

Prism bis if i will never kill bird on mythic ever? According Bloodmallet it will be better than hero plume
I doont raid mythic in a guild so no shot rlly

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup idk cant find it

looked trough every log

[random stirrup]

ye because the numbers change constantly

[vivid vessel]

also im pretty sure my numbers were way higher

yesterday

[random stirrup]

yes

[vivid vessel]

like 100%

idk what happeend

[random stirrup]

its the 3rd time

[river wing]

nope
hero plume is better than myth prism still, they're so close that the diff is basically negligible in either side
7% from either myth prism 289 or hero plume 276

[random stirrup]

i open same log

and all the burn numbers are diff

i wasnt actually noobing it up last night and all my best pulls were with puzzle before gate

but i think the puzzle step is better no question

my 290k pull from last week is now 270k, and my 305k pull from today is now 301k instead

seems good

[zenith sequoia]

how do you guys play outlaw without staring at your bars

honestly

[vivid vessel]

something is wrong

im pretty sure the first sec tech was always higher last week no

than the second one

now its always lower

[random stirrup]

uhh shouldnt be

you dont have fw up

[vivid vessel]

really

idk

[river wing]

the key is staring at them at proper times

[random stirrup]

its 10% damage with death perception

[vivid vessel]

shouldnt you strike before

vanish strike

then

if its that much better

[random stirrup]

i can go check again but then you're wasting puzzle box time

i didn't ever actually sim vanish on pull

with no precombat stealth

[zenith sequoia]

hmmm i guess, maybe my hands are getting too old and slow for the APM

[random stirrup]

I will say my burn damage is pretty much exact my sim now

with some variance

[zenith sequoia]

maybe they were always too slow

[random stirrup]

gaze seems good btw

casual 300 primary for all of burn

[arctic hollow]

My hero prism sims above my hero plume. Now i regret passing on Myth prism week one

[tired rune]

How many bugs are we up to today

Haven’t had a chance to play yet

[waxen scarab]

there is no way trickster is bette

in m+

we cant stay all the time at the cloud

[edgy owl]

just in the beginning and at the end is enough

I believe

[cold geyser]

Could be annoying if you've got a tank that keeps moving

[river wing]

ngl we can on most pulls
AA first pull is gonna be ass tho

[fierce mulch]

its possible most of the time

[unkempt dew]

Are we having fun yet?

[unique fulcrum]

u dont have to be in cloud all the time

u can dip

[obsidian light]

costs of getting buffed ig

[rocky gulch]

do you get the buff from the fart cloud as long as you stay in it? or is it 10sec when it drops and another 10sec after it leaves/you leave?

[gaunt phoenix]

as long as you stay

[rocky gulch]

so max of 20sec then, min of 10sec?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[flat needle]

Is there any point in tracking coup de grace/Dispatch in cooldown manager?

[gaunt phoenix]

no

[rocky gulch]

SS as the main builder, PS only with charges, and finishers are BtE > KS > Dispatch, roll the bones on CD if lower than 2 if not, then refresh as soon as its about to fall off on 3< and extend whenever its up, right? as a TLDR?

[jagged plover]

recrafting bugged, bonus rolls bugged (2x), outlaw bugged, uhdk bugged, holypal bugged, all casters bugged from prop hunt, lura bugged

forgot if there was more

well ig the bug is both sub and outlaw

[rocky gulch]

the energy bug is a lot more impactful on sub than it is for outlaw it feels like tbh - i hope it gets addressed asap

[jagged plover]

idk we have shit energy already and we press adr more than sub does i assume

bad for both no doubt

[gaunt phoenix]

you have to use adrenaline rush, blade rush, prep

if PS has 3 stacks you only build with it between 1-3 combo points, otherwise SS

if PS has 6 stacks you build with it as prio over SS

like you will frequently land at 5 combo points, if you have 3 PS you would SS, if you have 6 PS you would PS

you must maintain blade flurry in aoe, and it is a priority builder in aoe

[fair sparrow]

wait what are the outlaw bugs rn

[gaunt phoenix]

finish at 6

[fair sparrow]

oh the energy thing

is it that bad on outlaw, on sub it feels like torture

i kind of dont feel it yet on outlaw

[vivid vessel]

prolly worse on outlaw than sub

[fair sparrow]

i see

[vivid vessel]

30 energy on sub every 1 min3 0

[rocky gulch]

do you BR after you AR or use a finisher since youll be at max CP? It feels weird not using a finisher with max CP - but I guess its cause you want the dmg buff so its worth?

[vivid vessel]

while you are already pooling for sht anyway

[fair sparrow]

well you know what

[vivid vessel]

and you then have infinite energy in dance

outlaw has actual energy issues

[fair sparrow]

outlaw and sub are opposites then i guess huh

[vivid vessel]

and thats 30 energy every 35s

[gaunt phoenix]

you blade rush and then finisher

[fair sparrow]

outlaw opener doesnt have a problem with it

but has a problem every other time

[vivid vessel]

no ye you wont have a issue in opener for sure

[fair sparrow]

sub opener is atrocious but no problem every other time

like i dont realize the energy thing on sub past opener

but the opener is god awful

[gaunt phoenix]

blade rush cooldown is reduced by spending combo points, if you skip it you lose casts

[river wing]

she rush on my blade till I finisher
(sorry)

[rocky gulch]

DMs open?

[gaunt phoenix]

rather not

[rocky gulch]

[ashen void]

I do kinda miss the comfy cozy finish on 5 dispatch rule FB has

[peak dock]

Anyone know if ascendants voidcores will be limited?

I know they r timegated atm

[jagged plover]

i mean they're only trink and wep right

[peak dock]

Yes but i mean if they r limited i must focus on getting a good myth track mh

Otherwise i can fuck up sometimes and waste some in crafted mh meanwhile

[grand dune]

Maybe a dumb question but do people turn off the pistol shot glowing proc? I think that is messing me up. Each time I see it glow, it makes me want to press it.

[fair sparrow]

yeah ok i just hit dummies for a bit

this energy thing is cancer

[near trout]

while playing trickster, what is the best way to use KS ? (trying to learn)

[river wing]

possibly but it's not important b/c you can get a good MH in 4 weeks guaranteed, like just by expending the entire loot pool of some place with an MH

[gaunt phoenix]

just lower prio than bte and prep bte

[near trout]

thank you

[frank hamlet]

can i cancel KS until i have enough energy or should i full channel it?

[gaunt phoenix]

you can cancel if you're about to overcap energy during the channel

[frank hamlet]

okay ty

[native tinsel]

what are the common mistakes? i need to work on my rotation

[gaunt phoenix]

usually small stuff that leads to losing momentum/having to roll without loaded dice too much

early finishers

missing cds even for a global

delaying globals

blade flurry positioning

[jagged plover]

miss my blade flurry target wa

[ornate kernel]

How work blade flurry? Around the enemy? Or me?

[jagged plover]

you

[gaunt phoenix]

say KIR is ready and you need to bte, it's very easy to just hit bte without thinking

and you lose KIR cdr for a moment

those 7 seconds could fuck you later

[native tinsel]

that small stuff is hard to burn in my brain, specially since outlaw feels harder to log review

too much stuff to look into

[gaunt phoenix]

oh and the builder priority

[river wing]

they sure do
worst feeling ever to miss a jackpot extension by 5 seconds of CDR

[keen belfry]

This ace change is very good I feel like I’m legit getting so many resets

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[keen belfry]

But fartcloud….

I’m not sure about it

And trickster is that bad me thinks

[native tinsel]

is ps opp used even with 5cp?

[jagged plover]

have u played it in raid or m+ only

[gaunt phoenix]

you ps at 5 if you have 6 opp

[keen belfry]

Both

[jagged plover]

i feel like it will be alright in raid but giga aids in m+

[keen belfry]

It’s even weird in raid cuz like

[native tinsel]

why only 6 and not 3?

[keen belfry]

You move the boss on pull

So your first fart is weird

[gaunt phoenix]

because if you press ss at 6 opp, you risk overcapping opp, which is very bad

[jagged plover]

yeah true

it's funny they removed a lot of mental load from outlaw with rtb changes

but just added some back in for fun

good shit

[gaunt phoenix]

at 3 opp you can afford to ss instead of opp, if you opp then you waste a bunch of cps guaranteed

that's why 3 opp is used between 1-3 cps

[keen belfry]

Solo imma be honest u gotta change the default build to sleight

[gaunt phoenix]

i did

[keen belfry]

Oh nice

Ty

[gaunt phoenix]

np

[crimson scarab]

so sleight instead of loaded dice?

[gaunt phoenix]

no

sleight instead of acrobatic strikes

in aoe

[tulip quarry]

Do we kir at 2 back then ?

[keen belfry]

I did both last night, acro vs sleight, I think you need sleight

I had so many 2 buffs

[crimson scarab]

but for raid u keep acro?

[gaunt phoenix]

you kir at 3 but you kir at 2 if you're about to natty roll without loaded

[inland acorn]

Wait so do people actually see smoke in raid XD?

[crimson scarab]

yeah everyone sees smoke apparently

[inland acorn]

[crimson scarab]

i was doing keys this morning and everyone was tf is this smoke

[gaunt phoenix]

raid ST build already has both sleight and acro

in raid aoe you just go sleight

[indigo token]

its an actual smoke bomb

in that it obscures sight

[crimson scarab]

what do u guys think about the outlaw update?

[indigo token]

not a fan

not playing fartlaw

[crimson scarab]

its pumping a lot tho

[native tinsel]

playing outlaw feels like im building a spreadsheet full of =IF()

[gaunt phoenix]

i really dont mind it

[crimson scarab]

i feel super strong

[indigo token]

it can pump all it wants, if its not fun to me, im not playing it

[gaunt phoenix]

yep, that is outlaw. but you have basically 0 forward thinking with cooldown usage

[sinful dagger]

Same 🫡

[gaunt phoenix]

you just zoom zoom

unlike the cooldown specs

[native tinsel]

you dont hold at all? not even dying packs etc

[crimson scarab]

i think u hold on dying packs

[gaunt phoenix]

if pack is 3 seconds dying then yes

[crimson scarab]

especially now with the trickster update?

[gaunt phoenix]

or if the next pack is way more dangerous than this one

but if you hold AR for very long then you cant loaded dice

and you lose momentum

on keeping high RTB

[keen belfry]

Having to not press AR at the end of pack is one of my least favorite things about this new law

[crimson scarab]

ye i think we were all used to pressing it almost everytime on CD with the crackshot build

[storm hemlock]

on top of this dropping ADR while the tank is pulling now feels bad too because we leave our cloud behind

[crimson scarab]

yeah always need to wait for the mobs to stack

[keen belfry]

Often often times there are moments where you’d lose half your AR but then no one else is sending so the mob lives and u could’ve actually sent ur ar but u had no way to know that

[fleet cloud]

Is trickster energy issues awful vs fb or is it sorta whatever

[storm hemlock]

its rng

[gaunt phoenix]

it's worse but it's not ridiculous

[karmic gust]

just did a 14 NPX and haven't starved even once

[storm hemlock]

I had 1 boss fight that was a slog and 3 tthat were fine

[fleet cloud]

Guh

[keen belfry]

It sometimes feels totally fine u sometimes get fucked, I thought it would be worse

[fleet cloud]

Ty gamers

[crimson scarab]

sometimes u also need a bit of luck to get a good roll out of RTB without loaded dice

when i get stage 3 or jackpot it feels fcking amazing

[karmic gust]

that one feels good tho

[storm hemlock]

not having weighted dice is a bummer too

[karmic gust]

that stage 3 or 4 gamba is insane

[tulip quarry]

i've rise my haste though i still feel starved with Trickster, the Adre bug hit us quite strong

[crimson scarab]

makes me want to gamble irl

[karmic gust]

just go on bro

[silver venture]

an1 has a clue if blizz devs are aware of that 30 energy AR bug , it is beyond ass to deal with at keys

[buoyant stratus]

Me when we wipe at 6% and im blasting 180k on paladins into do nothing no procs no jackpots no bitches 150k paladin pull

[karmic gust]

100% of quitters stop before they win

[crimson scarab]

wise words

[karmic gust]

just get into stocks, it's gamba but less chance to lose

[wintry solar]

Owlcat predates AI

Just learned that

[dark birch]

Does one use Killing Spree inside of AR?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[dark birch]

Thanks 🙂

[tranquil folio]

If its not supercharged and you don't have bte up its safe to use killing spree

[karmic gust]

the bte procs on trickster feel kinda insane

[buoyant stratus]

Owlcat is shrimply the goat

[karmic gust]

what if

u AR

but bte on cd

tf u do with supercharge

[buoyant stratus]

Dispatch

[native tinsel]

this 30 energy bug fucking sucks

[flat needle]

Trying to understand the RTB logic:
We KiR with 3+ rolls and we reroll at 1 roll.
So if we have 2 roll, we just keep it for the duration, and holding KiR if ready?

[buoyant stratus]

Try not to do that

[karmic gust]

feels like a waste

[ruby walrus]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Why don't we macro trinkets to abilities?

• You want to use trinkets while BtE is active, but you can't macro them to BtE, as breaking vanish with a trinket will cause Subterfuge to not activate, so Vanish > BtE macro could fail.
• Trinkets are your only on demand burst damage, you sometimes want to hold it for specific mobs or vulnerability windows.
• You usually don't want to send it on a dying mob.

[inland meteor]

it activates the dopamine in the dome piece that’s for sure

[karmic gust]

ye it's obv bad

[buoyant stratus]

Ye but thats cause u bte'd at <30 seconds AR

[brittle pelican]

do we still KiR at level 2?

[karmic gust]

not a big deal to hold it with restless blades anyway so i'll keep an eye on it

[cedar bone]

i have solar prism and insignia should i still use bonus roll on chimaerus or is this valid already?

[tranquil folio]

Only time that should happen is if you used prep to get more bte in your first ar. But yeah send dispatches

[timid portal]

If no loaded dice or long ar cd yes

[brittle pelican]

thanks

[uneven needle]

coming from assa, i think ill give this outlaw specialization you speak of, guys, a go

[worldly shale]

so we just send voidcores in pit right?

[thorn parrot]

Pretty much

[keen belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fadsfantasy-gif-22425132

[obsidian karma]

I'm simming higher with Crucible and alnseer than ranger + alnseer. Is this correct? its both on aoe and single target... seems very weird to me crucible could hold up to both ranger and alnseer hc versions.

[kind axle]

Cores are bugged atm. people aren't getting the dupe protection

unless they fixed it between last night and now

[crimson scarab]

i just had the worst possible luck in POS, out of all the items i could get i got myth track legs and guess what i got myth track legs last week from vault

[dark birch]

I've used one in PoS - scared to use another until confirmed fix 🙂

[crimson scarab]

i honestly want to KMS

[dark birch]

I got the legs ofc

[crimson scarab]

5/7 BIS/ almost BIS items i got the only one i dont actually fcking need

[thorn parrot]

Crucible is that bonkers for us

[crimson scarab]

i bet the second roll i do would be the fcking cape

[jagged plover]

very brave to use them when apparently bugged

[vestal topaz]

can someone explain why we have to put a point in killing spree?

[frail veldt]

Lolol just refresh the page

[worldly shale]

im going for a pit run now, i already have bracers from there

if i get em

[frail veldt]

Otherwise idk twitch is fighting back

[worldly shale]

im gonna

end it

[frail veldt]

Check the github

[timid idol]

pit or gamble for myth alnseer

[thorn parrot]

Solo I believe yesterday said you can take it out for a 2% DPS loss. Could be wrong on that though

[native tinsel]

it did happen to me to bte at <60 seconds and it procced so much that AR got refreshed and bte was on cd

[crimson scarab]

i hope to God u get the dagger

[cedar bone]

are you guys rocking outlaw on chimaerus or sub?

[crimson scarab]

always outlaw

[worldly shale]

got it crafted cuz i had to play sub XD, but ye that would be also fine

[inland meteor]

outlaw always

[worldly shale]

im next in line for alnseer

so i dont think ill do that

[timid idol]

ah cool

im pugging that shi

[smoky nova]

The wow head says to keep it rolling on stage 2 or higher and also 3 or higher

Which one is correct?

[worldly shale]

u should onlyh 3+ now i think

thats what i read

[thorn parrot]

KiR 3 if you’re a cool kid

[worldly shale]

in pins i think

[timid idol]

kir on 3 if ur lucky fella otherwise enjoy one of a kinds

[smoky nova]

When do you press rtb? On 2+?

I mean 2-

[unique fulcrum]

anyone else not really feeling it or am i cooked and just need to give it more trys

[timid idol]

i havent played since this morning

but

i did a quick chimaerus hc clear while sleepy, havent played with ks and prep in a really long time

and i still topped everyone

i felt the fuck out of the buffs

[smoky nova]

Yeah, under the rotation priority. Under keep it rolling tab is says the old note

[timid idol]

like im pretty sure i pissed all over the opener and it didnt matter

[tranquil folio]

Do we send coup de grace as soon as its up like last season or do we build it to 6 or 7 cp?

[karmic gust]

the gain is worth trying it a few more times

[timid idol]

always use at 6 no?

any finisher

[alpine fractal]

any tldr on outlaw right now? forgive me if it has been asked alot of times already

[worldly zephyr]

Assa? The way my guild positions the adds they run right through the horrify soaks so by the time I can safely target them they’re pretty much dead. Thus I just ignore em for the most part.

[short briar]

How is almost every spec bugged rn lmao

[timid portal]

Easy answer is you roll when your buff is about to end or when buff is low time and loaded dice would run out before buff

[timid idol]

it do damage

finally

[tranquil folio]

Thats what im thinking but building up coup also potentially wastes procs that would build to the next coup

[timid idol]

[alpine fractal]

Trickster?

[timid idol]

yessir

[timid portal]

Imagine that because of trickster more people will quit outlaw

[timid idol]

trickster is fine honestly, even ks too, its just undertuned

if theres any clunky button i have an issue with its honestly prep

why is that shit on gcd

i dont know

why does it not work with restless

i dont know

[timid portal]

You press KS on 5

[timid idol]

but we got dps buffs so i cant complain too much

[timid portal]

And all good

[obsidian karma]

for trickster outlaw, if I'm at 5 cp after a free bte, do I still sinister strike for 6-7 cp bte even tho I lose a cp to overflow?

[alpine fractal]

I took a mythic dagger to try assa

[timid portal]

Its even dmg increase

[still matrix]

can i bonus roll more than once in a key now or is it still duped?

[timid portal]

You can use it in OH

[tranquil folio]

You can immediately send that bte at 6

[alpine fractal]

yea

[obsidian karma]

what about 5?

[alpine fractal]

already crafted one aswell, will end up fine either way though

[timid portal]

You dont

[tranquil folio]

Reading is hard. Use a builder

[jagged plover]

im not risking it until blizzard says its fixed and someone else beta tests it for a day

cant trust them for shit

[obsidian karma]

and do I spend sinister strike or do I use pistol stacks to reach 7?

[tranquil folio]

Ss unless at 6 opportunity stacks

[high spire]

hows outlaw looking?

[timid portal]

If you are on 5cp and have 6 stacks of Opp you use pistol shot, if you have 3 stacks of Opp you ss

[obsidian karma]

so always keep 3 stacks of opp on the burner

[smoky nova]

Not necessarily I thought 1-3 calls for it to be used

[obsidian karma]

what a shitly designed spec bro what fucking lizard designed this

[tranquil folio]

2-3 you're safe to use the opportunity stacks cause it gets you to 6 or 7 for a finisher

[obsidian karma]

alright thanks

[tranquil folio]

Don't send ps at 1 unless at 6 opportunity stacks

[smoky nova]

Somebody fix wow head 😔

[balmy topaz]

@gaunt phoenix Idk if you know this but there was an undocumented change with the ring enchant eye of the eagle (Ring) and it now gives 2%

[still matrix]

Apparently the bonus roll is bound to difficulty so as long as u do a 10 again it wont be on list

or 11 again

etc..

[strong pagoda]

Anyone know if you can have 2 Masterwork Sin'dorei Band equipped at the same time? It says "Unique-Equipped" but simc does not rule it out as not eligible

[timid idol]

i just thought about something

[junior glacier]

nah you cant

[timid idol]

might be better to use rolls on pit this week and chimaerus next week

reason why: people are gonna bonus roll into the trinket and you have a chance to get the myth trinket naturally almost uncontested next week when more people have it

[strong pagoda]

counterargument, the people who got it in the bonus roll wont be queueing to kill it next week

[timid idol]

i mean mayb they will for the tierset

and the belt

[strong pagoda]

perchance

[timid idol]

i know for sure arms and fury want the crit haste belt no?

and its still +1 myth to vault

so i think people will still q to kill it

[strong pagoda]

fair

[obsidian karma]

bro I finally got my alnussy 🥹 I bonus rolled it after I waited for all rolls to end

[uneven needle]

how much crit do you guys run? currently 31 crit 19 haste, but got some mastery leftover

[blissful idol]

grats

[obsidian karma]

same, 31 crit and 20 haste, I started swapping to vers flasks but all sims point to as much crit as possible even past 40%

[gaunt phoenix]

lol, you are right

used to be 1.25%

[obsidian karma]

haste falls off sharply past 20 for me as stat weigh and crit remains super higher even past 40

[tiny maple]

KS is so awkward to use. I wish they would've spent more time improving it before .5

[mystic berry]

Im at 39% crit and sims still like crit bro

[gaunt phoenix]

would not vers flask at 31 crit

[balmy topaz]

Big dam increase

[mystic berry]

It hits like a wet noodle, it pisses me off that I have to use it

[obsidian karma]

ya but during most of the fight im way above 40% crit that was my intention btu yes all my sims point to as much crit as possible

[mystic berry]

Same problem I have with prep, shit button to press, still have to press it

[brittle pelican]

am I trippin, or is the stealth sound gone

[past stump]

it is

i thought i was going insane

[waxen scarab]

why is the tricks addon not working with trickster

[gaunt phoenix]

literally every addon exploded

[timid idol]

it took like

[mystic berry]

It works here

[timid idol]

40 seasons for them to rework ks into the current one

that allows you to move

[waxen scarab]

glad thought it was my pc

[timid idol]

if you want more improvements, check back in the xpac after last titan

[worldly shale]

well fuck

[karmic gust]

just have a macro ? Mine's working fine

[gaunt phoenix]

thats good

[mystic berry]

They have a qol improvement budget of one per xpac

[waxen scarab]

it is the macro

[gaunt phoenix]

you dont need haste on every piece

[waxen scarab]

along the addon

[tiny maple]

My monkey brain hates that I have to instinctively look at blade flurry duration if I have KS coming up.

[karmic gust]

i don't have any addon just a macro and i don't have any problem

[worldly shale]

would get imperator cape anyway

whatev

[inland cairn]

i got that cloak with imperator already equipped and wrists which arent an upgrade because they dont have a socket yet

[worldly shale]

im gonna be doing another one

imagine if i get wrists

[stiff cave]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Why don't we macro trinkets to abilities?

• You want to use trinkets while BtE is active, but you can't macro them to BtE, as breaking vanish with a trinket will cause Subterfuge to not activate, so Vanish > BtE macro could fail.
• Trinkets are your only on demand burst damage, you sometimes want to hold it for specific mobs or vulnerability windows.
• You usually don't want to send it on a dying mob.

[jovial dome]

Someone wake zac up! It’s time to play!

[worldly shale]

(i have the same wrists)

[inland cairn]

wrong reply

[karmic gust]

/cast [@party1] Tricks of the trade``` @waxen scarab been using this for years and I don't have any issues

[inland cairn]

yeah ive got the same on hero

i dont like how big sockets are

[worldly shale]

i got myth XD

[inland cairn]

[worldly shale]

this one poggers

[timid idol]

godlike ty

[waxen scarab]

yea that one isnt working

[reef forge]

anyone have a good smoke wa?

[karmic gust]

just ask to put tank as lead and u don't need any addon

[worldly shale]

uuugh its working for me?

[inland cairn]

working for me as well

[waxen scarab]

u running trickster?

[inner sky]

Same, though now being trickster, whats the point?

[worldly shale]

now yeah, but it worked on sub while playing trickster too

and while playing fatebound

before the patch

was goated

now yea, doesnt matter

[keen belfry]

thoughts on this extend

[ebon solar]

guys if i have myth mh should i open vault as another spec?

[novel isle]

Yea get that myth dagger

thats the only difference is the dagger is added

[inland cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-4133362185516930925

[ebon solar]

cheers

[vivid vessel]

thats why i added a real timer on my rtb

so i see .x second

under 1 sec

it was driving me crazy

[keen belfry]

how can

[vivid vessel]

having to guess

be better

invest in zac's ui

now

[keen belfry]

meh

[reef forge]

zac if i reinstall you wa will it have smoke stuff?

[vivid vessel]

no

i didnt update that yet

wanted to play with it first

[inner sky]

So dont buy now, buy later

[karmic gust]

better to buy the dip

[inland cairn]

yo zac do you know if unit_spellcast_succeeded is safe for player spells in m+ n stuff

[vivid vessel]

yes

[inland cairn]

[ebon solar]

bois which dungeon is better to roll on? pit?

[karmic gust]

depends what you're missing

[ebon solar]

which dungeons are good

beside pit

[real valley]

question, the opener in the pins resets only bte, why not bte + ks?

[low gazelle]

Because ks isn’t high enough priority to use time on it. It mentioned it in one of the notes

[unreal turtle]

so is outlaw doing more dps than sub now?

[novel isle]

I looked at your pdf for it and said fuck that 🤣 so hard to replicate

[unreal turtle]

is that whats going on?

[vivid vessel]

hey

not my fault

blizzard made it annoying

[still matrix]

doing the same pit of saron +10, first time get ring from bonus loot, go again and its still on the loot table even though shows i got before.

might try do it on an 11

[jagged plover]

using his cdm + wa is pretty easy and 90% of the work

[river wing]

yeah it's bugged brotha

[jagged plover]

i didnt want all the other shit

[river wing]

gotta wait for the fix

[inner sky]

I wouldnt send bonus rolls on keys right now

its bugged AF

[novel isle]

afaik seat or pit

[river wing]

pit is the best overall

[hybrid flax]

thank you for your sacrifice

[river wing]

one average item, lots of good ones (legs aren't great but just cata them)

[jovial dome]

Do people not auto check Wowhead before playing?

[low gazelle]

Yeah pits insane. I doubt any other spec has a dungeon that good to throw rolls at.

[jovial dome]

Dangerous game we play

[still matrix]

i didnt press the roll button

2nd time lol

when i saw ring on loot table

im gonna send a pit 11

and see if loot table is the same

[vivid vessel]

does anyone have these things happens sometimes

where random tooltips appear

lfg tooltip

[tame moon]

rio flex atp

[fathom holly]

bro we know you are insane no need to flex zac

[haughty sandal]

Some, like me, go entire expansions without reading wowhead news, patch notes, or any other helpful information

[flat needle]

Trying to understand the RTB logic:
We KiR with 3+ rolls and we reroll at 1 roll.
So if we have 2 roll, we just keep it for the duration, and holding KiR if ready?

[keen belfry]

kinda basically, but youd reroll if you have stage 2 and loaded dice and kir

[jovial dome]

That’s just strange. I mean it makes sense for some people but I just thought anyone who would be in the discord would also be a wowhead “enjoyer”

[flat needle]

Ah get it, that means i got to track loaded dice

[zenith root]

What's the best main hand I can get if I can't craft one or if I'm unlucky with cosmos?

[river wing]

xenas mace, I think?

[jagged plover]

even without wowhead every wow discord channel i look at had mentioned bonus rolls being bugged a while ago

[keen belfry]

track rtb, loaded dice, blade flurry, grave digger

[blissful idol]

claude ai working overtime at blizzard

[zenith root]

I'll check that out thx

[haughty sandal]

I imagine the two are linked but personally i cant be arsed to keep up with all the minute changes, alterations and whatnots.
Some days i do damage, some days i dont.

Twas different when i did mythic raiding but ive not done that since wod

[glass shard]

rotationally nothing changed right

except for energy starved forever

[jovial dome]

A lot changed

[glass shard]

frick

[haughty sandal]

The changes dont matter, simply apply face to keyboard

[glass shard]

what if i just stay fatebound....

[haughty sandal]

No wait thats ret

Mb

[gaunt phoenix]

different opener and shouldnt KIR at 2 immediately (if not already)

[jovial dome]

You will wanna jump

[mighty pivot]

[glass shard]

learning is for noobs!

[glass shard]

i play outlaw thats baseline

[jovial dome]

Touché

[glass shard]

thank u

[shadow trellis]

This is if i catalyze a shoulder and craft HERO head (crit/haste -4 ilvl)

We hate mastery

[river wing]

yuh

[keen cedar]

@vivid vessel Where is update for AyijeCDM common man!

[inland cairn]

Is there something wrong with it?

[keen cedar]

Not working for me xD

Maybe its just me? 😮

[vivid vessel]

ust you

[inland cairn]

Fine for me ye

[blissful idol]

for me fine as well

[keen cedar]

oh well

Will reinstall it I guess

[inland meteor]

@gaunt phoenix dispatch is always at 6 cp with trickster right no exceptions

[gaunt phoenix]

yep

[wet gull]

Are we playing killing spree again ?

[gaunt phoenix]

yep

[blissful idol]

bte also 6+

?

[wet gull]

so sad

[low gazelle]

That one always is, both hero talents

[edgy owl]

Hi, when do we hold adrenaline rush to get the supercharged cp on BTE?

[inland meteor]

so when im at 5 i always send a SS?

[blissful idol]

ps if at 6 stacks i think

[edgy owl]

on trickster yeah

[inland meteor]

gotta get used to that

[brittle pelican]

we still send AR at low CP? or should we pop for more uptime on the triple fazed

[eternal hound]

So guys

Are we sending all our cores into pit?

[gaunt phoenix]

you mostly hold bte for AR, not the other way around.

there is no official rule to hold AR specifically, though if AR is 1 finisher ahead of BtE then you can hold it

[inland meteor]

and also does bte take prio over coup?

[eternal hound]

also

[inland meteor]

or coup > bte

[gaunt phoenix]

bte is prio

[inland meteor]

ok

good

[eternal hound]

do we cancel KS?

[light kernel]

Do u guys while tank gathers pack together dps since we gor perma tricks without sending bte and ar

[low gazelle]

It’s very solid. But knockout rolls are bugged right now so you might want to hold off until it’s fixed

[gaunt phoenix]

you CAN cancel ks if you hit max energy during the channel, but its just +0.3% dps or whatever

[eternal hound]

Oh so just don't care

got it

[gaunt phoenix]

u should prolly cancel it during burn phases tho

[edgy owl]

I see, ty for your answer

[river wing]

coup is lots of CDR
you want that shit on your BtE CD

[inland meteor]

yeah makes sense

[edgy owl]

coup is higher prio than bte?

[gaunt phoenix]

no bte is prio

[inland meteor]

no when bte is on cd coup is good because it gives loads of cdr

so bte first always then coup

to reduce bte cd

[edgy owl]

makes sense

[reef forge]

is there any rules about not using ks during cloud buff/AR or anything?

[sour cedar]

I have a quick Coup question that I can't find an answer to in Pins and FAQs; do we send it on low CPs or do we build to ~6 and then send it?

[gaunt phoenix]

you build

[gaunt phoenix]

not yet, i tried a few things but didnt get anywhere

[buoyant cosmos]

It may have to do with how the adds portrait is put over my character one when I get grabbed.

[sour cedar]

ta was unsure because I think there was a rule in TWW where we just sent it on proc I think

[ashen oracle]

Yoo would you play the AOE or ST build against Dragons MM ? Considering there is also a sub and 2 moonkins eating all the pad alrdy

[reef forge]

oof was kind of hoping we would only use it outside of AR

[native tinsel]

is target dummy sim useful?

[native tinsel]

BUILD TO 6

[eternal hound]

okay yeah

trickster is jank

[astral socket]

Anyone else having issues seeing poison ground effects in this godawful smoke?

[flint lotus]

hey yall. new rogue outlaw pvp here. just sayin hello 🙂

[eternal hound]

Adding an extra GCD to evrey finisher is gonna get annoying

[atomic pike]

Yes same

Also I feel fps is getting a hit when casting it

[astral socket]

hope they tweak it some

[worldly shale]

loot rolls still bugged?

[atomic pike]

Yeah they just woke up collecting bug fixes

In a couple of hours they will fix I’m sure

[astral socket]

10-100 business days more likely

[inland meteor]

muscle memory to send dispatch at 5 is so ingrained

[eternal hound]

I know. And it just feels awful

[worldly shale]

maybe i should gamba, if i get the same thing they will SURELY refund

XDDDDDDDDD

[inland meteor]

ill wait and see, maybe its not so bad affter getting used to it

[eternal hound]

...hold on

AR drains energy...what the fuck

...oh

[jagged plover]

welcome to bugfest

[river wing]

it casts a distract under your feet

[eternal hound]

Did they jank code this

[jagged plover]

yes

[eternal hound]

Yep

Yep they did

LMAO

[river wing]

it is legit the most cludgiest thing they could have done

[indigo token]

oh my god bruh 💔

[void zephyr]

are people having a lot of downtime as outlaw now?

[placid ocean]

Is speccing out of prep a big dps loss?

[flat needle]

Can someone tell me real quick what looks suspicious in my dmg breakdown? (11 skyreach)

[gaunt phoenix]

not crazy

[native tinsel]

wrong channel #subtlety

[placid ocean]

Um

[eternal hound]

Chief

[buoyant cosmos]

outlaw is using prep

[glass shard]

wut

[eternal hound]

sub dosen't have prep LOL

[placid ocean]

Nice name btw

[glass shard]

hes sticking to the bit

[buoyant cosmos]

That's pretty on brand

[glass shard]

change misguided to missguiding perhaps

[jagged plover]

misguider

[buoyant cosmos]

Is running a supercharged combo point into KS is a misplay? Seems like it would be but I wanted to make sure

[timid idol]

ok i did my first dung

feels really good for dps

[gaunt phoenix]

bte is low, mastery is high, idk your crit rating

[timid idol]

but energy is a lil bit of an issue

i do have 22% tho

[dusk forge]

How is outlaw playing so far this expac? I'm thinking of coming back to wow and last I played outlaw was in dragonflight

[gaunt phoenix]

it doesnt affect sim dps but can still try to avoid it if you want

[timid idol]

maybe i take out kroluk banner and play solar + heart of wind?

[worldly shale]

rate

[timid idol]

goated

also

what is this void strike thing

[native tinsel]

im missing a lot of haste

[buoyant cosmos]

chore for mog

[buoyant cosmos]

recraft ring ez

[reef forge]

on pull in raid do you guys hold the second loaded dice until the end of your first stage 2 or do you send and pray for stage 3 or higher?

[timid idol]

unlucky ig

[flat needle]

thank you! 750 crit with flask

[vivid vessel]

rate mog

[buoyant cosmos]

go back to dwarf

then it;s 10/10

[gaunt phoenix]

you send if KIR is ready

if KIR is not ready then you dont roll over stage 2

[reef forge]

and then even if you roll another stage 2 you just KIR insta

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, cuz then ur next roll is most likely without loaded dice

[queen rampart]

is this just sim variance or is there actual differences between the different crafted weapons? like does min-max range on weapons still matter?

[gaunt phoenix]

it doesnt matter

[reef forge]

sounds good, ty

[gaunt phoenix]

sim variance is +/- 0.05% or so

[queen rampart]

got it, thank you

[native tinsel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gnome-gnomed-2--k01KPV0RFZ1TPXETXZYPHG0V5MD

[olive bramble]

I've been not doing the kir, and it seems to be fine with loaded dice and at worst its a 10s on single dice roll.

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, if you remove kir you might lose at most 5% dps

it's not exactly the most crazy talent we have

[glass shard]

u lose 5% dps but what cna u gain

[worldly shale]

idk i like kir, i liked it before too

[glass shard]

5head

[worldly shale]

but now its just

if 3+, press

[olive bramble]

I only kir on 3 or 4

[inland cairn]

kir was definitely more fun when we had 6 buffs

[worldly shale]

it had more variance yes

[buoyant cosmos]

KiR into KiR into KiR

nut

[inland cairn]

exactly

gambling

[worldly shale]

thats like

[inland cairn]

[worldly shale]

locking

slots

in a slot machine

pog

[near osprey]

dps loss for finishing on 5 cps?

[spiral trench]

Bad

[twilit spruce]

Is it safe to use rerolls in keys then?

[olive bramble]

you can finish ks on 5cps other ones it's a lot of dps loss with the new changes

[clever wasp]

love that, however, not dwarf sooo....

[midnight zinc]

so are we back to trickster after the buffs?

[glass shard]

yeah :/

[midnight zinc]

woof

[gaunt phoenix]

woof

[buoyant cosmos]

your party mates are going to love smoke bomb

just fyi

[eternal hound]

how

[thorny ice]

my group went crashout in this nexuspoint xD

[eternal hound]

the fuck do you play this LOL

Holy shit this feels awful

oh

That's why I was so damn squishy

Wowhead build has fucking cheat

[olive bramble]

I was so confused when it happened the first time, I was like can't see shit.

[glass shard]

are we back to pressing ambush btw?

or still off bars

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

[glass shard]

swag

[buoyant cosmos]

pretty boy even

[glass shard]

!opener

:ermgi:

its chalked

[buoyant cosmos]

washed

[somber fractal]

deft at 2 targets o boi

[harsh forge]

the bandwagoners are going to flood into us. mythic plus will be full of our outlaw fart clouds

[worldly shale]

HOLY POGGER STATS

[ornate vault]

wtf this news talent.... its horrible for dodge shit on floor.. we see nothing...
they are trick for better vision?

[gaunt phoenix]

just particle density

[worldly shale]

i dont have a problem

with seeing shit

idk

[ornate vault]

oh? i see only cloud...

[echo tapir]

the walkway pull in WS with all the archers and hawkstriders xD

im gonna feel bad for my party

[glass shard]

grapple into bomb holy

[echo tapir]

i am sad when playing trickster cause i really do love 4 grapples

[somber fractal]

raid and talent section in faq says bf with deft at 2+ but rotation says at 3+, which is correct?

[fair ice]

Whats this addon

[narrow sable]

So Outlaw is the best Rogue spec across the board now? 😭

[unkempt dew]

It always was

Freaking cool

[fair ice]

Across the bored yea

[jolly geyser]

[jovial dome]

Nah I still think those who didn’t like it before won’t change unless it’s miles ahead of every class. My fart cloud! Get out!

[jagged plover]

still sucks on egg and crown

[inland cairn]

dont tell em that

[worldly shale]

what? for stats?

[inland cairn]

let them find out

[worldly shale]

its a weakaura

[narrow sable]

Any ST figjht, I would imagine, no?

[bright crane]

Ol meta babbbybbbbeeee

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw st is fine

[jagged plover]

i mean our st is pretty decent

[fair ice]

Yea the stats

[bright crane]

Gamers rise UP

[worldly shale]

wa

[fair ice]

[desert latch]

someone tried the new trickster build without prep? do you lose a lot of dps by not using prep?

[worldly zephyr]

Yes.

[karmic gust]

ppl not kicking totems in pit 2nd boss in a 15

[bleak gate]

Are you meant to keep the Slice and Dice buff up on trickster? Beyond first pull

[grand dune]

Curious about this as well

[magic steppe]

how much i lose if i don't take ks ?

[worldly shale]

its way harder to drop prep now cuz of smoke

[thorny ice]

why dont just make it a cloudy "armor"/aura around our body.. would delete the vision and kite problem 😄 no?

[spiral trench]

Then you kick it lol

[karmic gust]

on cd, idk man we have 5 ppl just use keyboard

[frail veldt]

Well this one has a lot more reused code and less effort

So they went with it

[jovial dome]

You should automatically. Still gets extended with dispatch

[karmic gust]

after a few keys i defo prefer fatebound over this

[desert latch]

whats the dps difference between both trickster and fate?

[karmic gust]

13%

[desert latch]

damn thats a lot

[karmic gust]

kind of illegal not to play it

[desert latch]

yeah but fatebound feels much better to play damn

[karmic gust]

agreed

[grand dune]

You have to stay in the cloud?

[karmic gust]

had a miserable afternoon playing ts ngl

[jovial dome]

Zac comes to your house and kicks you in the nads for not playing it

[karmic gust]

at start and end

[pearl trout]

just make sure to dip back in before it ends so you can refresh the buff

[desert latch]

yeah i just sitting at the training dummy and its not been fun so far

[karmic gust]

guess i'll go back to fatebound or switch to something else idk it feels like shit

legit the only spec i find engaging

[glass shard]

guys

the nado on bird boss

in ws

was invisible

under my smokebomb

[restive mango]

buff outlaw
*monkey's paw curls

[quiet ore]

I... Actually had the same problem. But I also blame crawth not being semi transparent anymore.

[lyric bay]

God. I like the 13% buff. I hate that i have to play blade rush AND KS.

[desert latch]

yeah i'm gonna try it out in some m+ runs but so far fatebound felt much mucher better

[keen belfry]

i forgor u can choose wear the sheate urr weapons now

back shaete so good

[brave pelican]

smoke cloud feels really weird to me

but maybe its just getting into it, and might feel fine after a while

[karmic gust]

think i'd rather take the dps loss and enjoy playing the game ngl

[brave pelican]

feels really awkward to sit on AR until pack is clumped

[karmic gust]

even without buffs ppl usually sit below me anyway

[frail veldt]

You always had to play blade rush lol

[desert latch]

am on the same boat as you if the ne spec doenst grow on me

[frail veldt]

It's our 4 set

[jolly geyser]

Gotta try every weapon how it looks

[lyric bay]

yes, but i didn't had to play it in combination of KS.
Too much buttons

[desert latch]

add prep to that rotation and it just feel clunky af

[eternal hound]

Tbh blade rush is fine

Prep can go die in a fire

[desert latch]

blade rush is top i like that on but ks and prep really are not mine

[lyric bay]

THIS ALSO

[eternal hound]

Trying to give outlaw burst with doubble ar is the only thing that feels okay about it

[jolly geyser]

Ooo

[stuck totem]

Does this mean that Outlaw has eclipsed Assassination in 12.0.5? Or is just closer than it was?

[gaunt phoenix]

hard to just broadly say it's better in all content

[stuck totem]

How bout in M+?

[vivid vessel]

we dont know

[near rock]

why u got a crosshair

u on overwatch?

[vivid vessel]

to aim bte bro

[plush hornet]

what talent you reccomend to chose instead prep

[vivid vessel]

prep

[jolly geyser]

My crosshair only on in m+ and raid

[desert latch]

i hate prep so much

[plush hornet]

me too

so i looking for alternative

[gaunt phoenix]

i hate prep but i like AR again

[desert latch]

completely throws me out of my rotation

[plush hornet]

yea

[eternal hound]

Prep is just so jank

[gaunt phoenix]

it would be acro

[vivid vessel]

[fair ice]

Why does outlaw have like 5 ending talents

Tf

[ashen void]

i feel like prep is only awkward on open but after that bing chillin

[ionic citrus]

oh boy oh boy oh boy its happening

[unique fulcrum]

prep makes dungeons feel much better

u just have to try it a few times

[vivid vessel]

why not

you jealous?

[fair ice]

Sin has 3

[vivid vessel]

cuase you only have 3 ?

[fair ice]

Fk u

[vivid vessel]

loser spec

[fair ice]

[vivid vessel]

the more capstones you have the more dps you do btw

just saying

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean 3 of ours do nothing

[vivid vessel]

its mathematical

[formal knot]

they should make prep reset prep

[unique fulcrum]

Let him cook

[vivid vessel]

prep should reset kir

[fair ice]

Are you renekton

[vivid vessel]

change my mind

[unique fulcrum]

that would be crazyy op zac

and alot of min maxing i guess

[plush hornet]

is it good talent instead of prep ?

[glass breach]

I'm just happy to be out of assassination jail. That spec is turbo boring now

[upper hawk]

tim tuebo

[karmic gust]

just uncap bf

[ionic citrus]

40 dungeons farming subtetly trinkets to wake up to 10%+ buff on my spec

[jolly geyser]

Prep should increase gcd everytime you press it

[ionic citrus]

oh boy

[fluid meadow]

finisher cdr on prep

[fair ice]

I mean assa hasn't changed much in a while no

[hardy wigeon]

https://youtu.be/4EimqsST8xA?si=LnnA03QycZCWXhPs

[ashen void]

ace feels better frfr

[fair ice]

Crimson tempest is def an upgrade tho

[hardy wigeon]

@vivid vessel getting roasted for no reason at 29:40 lol

[plush hornet]

i used to play sub at the start of the season but is so boring

[worldly shale]

YES

so much better

[jolly geyser]

Zac boosted fr fr

[glass breach]

CT was huge but other than that it's felt very stagnant and uninspired

I'll take some outlaw prep jank just to shake things up

[wide coral]

feels so fucking miserable doing these ritual sites as a rogue

holy fucking shit

[clear tulip]

10/10 looks like mine

[worldly shale]

i feel like im missing 10 uncapped myth crests ffs

so weird

[eternal hound]

"Why am I doing no damage"
Copied the raid build for keys

[jolly geyser]

Whats the hat?

Could use in my silly mog

[clear tulip]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=235595/ensemble-forest-dwellers-rooted-attire

[worldly compass]

!cdm

!wa

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[jolly geyser]

[vivid vessel]

bro ..

tettles hatres me ..

[clear tulip]

my warband is ready

[jolly geyser]

The gang

[brave pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/rinauchis-cocobearkins-gif-26346664

zac

[vivid vessel]

wait wtf

how do i do that

tell tech

[fervent garden]

that is awesome

[ashen void]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-crawly-crawly-wizard-mall-wizard-mall-gif-14992836518596419882

[desert latch]

sometimes the smokebomb doenst go off after i use ar is this some kind of bug?

[clear tulip]

this month when they added a new colour it was so hype.

gnome fartgang

[river wing]

it costs 30 energy to proc

[gaunt phoenix]

bug where AR drains 30 energy

if you dont have 30 energy, no smoke

[desert latch]

aaaaah okay okay thanks guys

so one more thing to keep track of

[echo tapir]

lol get carried xD

[placid ocean]

Your warband looks very puntable

[worldly shale]

wait why are we casting

snd

[echo tapir]

only prekey no?

[brave pelican]

guessing we cast dispatch way to late into fight now

[sonic quarry]

if you get enough BtE resets you cast dispatch really late

[worldly shale]

idk saw this

[clear tulip]

its in the pin

[jovial dome]

To be fair Tettles hates himself

[worldly shale]

aha

ty

[somber fractal]

if bte puts you at 5 cp and you have bf available, wud you bf or ss?

in aoe*. seems like a waste of bf cps

[cinder relic]

Ace got buffed so it's more important to sit

SC it

[desert latch]

does it make a big difference in overall dps if you dont use snd before pull?

[dusk veldt]

KS after coup the grace right?

[worldly shale]

yeye didnt read pin soz

[clear tulip]

getting a ace reset for more bte stacks kinda big

and CDR

[desert latch]

feels like after the update you have to put 4 extra skills into your rotation

[keen belfry]

so many ace resets now

feelin more like tww

[normal aurora]

Man.. the rotation feels good but i hate how much wasted CP we have

[echo tapir]

yeah feels like crackshot is back which i missed so much

[real valley]

do i bte when it resets insta ? (5 stacks) or build back to 6+?

[gleaming cipher]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clear tulip]

#outlaw message

[real valley]

BUILD TO 6

o7

[clear tulip]

[real valley]

wait actually

[vivid vessel]

feels so good when you get ruth proc

[keen belfry]

mhm

[vivid vessel]

wonder what would happen if ace gave you 5 cp instead of 4 !

would go crazy no

[keen belfry]

i think it only feels meh when u get 5 too

yes

[mild vigil]

feels less good when it doesn't

[keen belfry]

but its overall W

[mild vigil]

yeah I agree

[keen belfry]

i was on 2 ace this whole time cuz the vibes of BTE BTE without apex is peak

[mild vigil]

outlaw plays pretty well rn when things line up

[serene urchin]

for nebulous voidcore whats the lowest key level we should be runnin

[keen belfry]

i need to learn how to play with this fart cloud better