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u can add items by name to top gear
Even tho sub is way better than outlaw rn
but once i craft mainhand i dont NEED to use a dagger right
up at the top
Outlaw chat slams perma
oh dagger is basically mandatory
just high ilvl its chiller
So much better
!oh
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of
Zero In, and also slightly more
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
its like 30 ilvls or something now for outlaw
its bigger then it was in the past
i mean on an offhand 1% dps is like 30-40 ilvls so
Yes but also I was talking about outlaw chat vs sub chat not dagger
that means a 260 dagger is going to be beating any mythic oh u get

so im not completely missing what ur saying
250 dagger = 280 other oh
essentially
basically yea
Yes
i see the vision
all things held equal (no emebellishments or unique procs on the item)
crafted makes it a bit more wonky
would playable path for crafted be mh -> oh -> off piece
yea many people r doing that
u may eventually replace the oh or mh but itll last for a bit
Yeah but can just make dagger at base ilvl
if u ever have the time allasasa liu go look at the stats weapons give besides weap dps (which dont matter in off hand) they give like less than boots
so weird interactions like more zero in is goatred with the sicks
Allasasa
Does it mean we therotically get more flourishes too?
With a mog like that kinda deserved
that is very funny i never even thought to
my bad
Sorry I had to
Thunderfurry off hand meta for the nature resist peel
Race change right now
it matches my glad mount :/
That was mean lol
:/
i dint realize how low statted they were until last season
off hand dont matter
go into credit card debt for it and i will
i have 1 myth piece
and its the nexus ring (the wrong one)
the h aste mastery one
need crafted weaponf irst tho for sure
FF is normalized for weapon speed
big offhand
cinema
i love playing rogue but the pressure on raid loot always puts me off tbh
since i dont raid im at the mercy of pug rolls all patch :/
It’s not too bad
Guys help.
When is the next catalyst charge
I don’t remember if it’s next week or the week after but
You only need one piece of tier
And then technically trinkets are good but
I was going to craft dagger. witht his loot
But I just got kricks beetle stabber hc, should i still craft dagger oh or do like ring or something?
The pressure is pretty low especially considering you have a very high chance of getting that piece of tier from your box if you fill it out
@vivid vessel help me
shietttt
simmit
You could craft a ring or craft a chest
I mean what do u have crafted rn
ive got teh 266 helm for crit/haste so was gonna just wait for a hc chest and catalyst it
i mean i think i would prolly craft a chest with that shit gear of yours
Your shit looks bunk
ngl
Yeah
this guys gear mogs mine
you seem to not have anything to spend mythic crests on so
😐
got myth hands
you are a casual doing lfr bdudy
i aint been in lfr once in 10 years
get hc ones to upgrade to 276 first
then spend crests on that
does that waste some hc crests? i guess hc crests more useless first
if u have myth gloves already itll only waste 20 herioc crests
and save u 20 myth crests
it saves mythic crests
pretty cool ya
sims are for noobs
when i checked it was ring/dagger i guess
doubt that
you wouldnt even equip it on outlaw
oh wait im like the only rogue in our whole raid maybe i shouldnt craft a dagger tonight...
i didnt realize the dagger was from the second boss

mastery true
Can’t send crests on my vault shit man
Sad!
Waiting till next week to take this weeks vault !
i havent yet :/
gotta wait til wednesday for next chance to
#noheroicinvites
I mean
maybe heater vault
You did normal and lfr?
ye
dont you have 3 natty catalyst + one at 2k score
saw some drop but lost every roll xdd
Can probably get a bit of heroic in
2 +1
2+1
3
6+7
idk
deserved
Once i get rid of poopoo chest i'll be gucci belt i have hc crit/haste so doubt i craft it idk
i mean theres a 0% chance i dont see tier next week
if no1 got me
my vault got me
🙏
oh vault
hmm wait
should i have 4set rn
am i big dumb
i got a champ tier chest in my vault last week and nothing else
if u got one piece of natty tier u can be 4pc
but we have 3 cata with 3k dont we
frick
oh wait 3 of my tier slots are still vet track thats why i didnt wanna use cata
and once you get 4pc, extra charges will drop randomly
but it seems like the extra cata charges drop pretty decently right
now that we've had some time
yea thats a W
Bro
What have u been doing
its my ONLY vet track
slots
ive done 20 keys idk
i dont have time to do more yet
not super-super common, but they drop enough that whenever you would get an upgrade, you should have a charge
they betrayed me
my maps have been trinkets and rings
i got hero track mastery boots and hero track mastery ring this week and last
and my delve slots in vault were even worse
my maps have been that fucking trinket that stuns you both times
cat laughing video
its so bad
Cloak good yes
tbh for most stuff i cloak id rather have AMS
like 90% of stuff i cloak
but for that other 10% its nice yea
AMs is better than cloak
AMS is true sicko mode
But it’s the best defensive in the game so
can u ams whilst already affected by a debuff
or no
not 1 time in my life have i had a mx level dk
its like the only class i dont play
i dont think it removes it but actually they might have a talent that makes it do that now
but id say no, it just absorbs the magic damage of the debuff
u need to pre ams it to prevent application usually
im dogass at the game
so cloak is better
if i know im gonna fail the iq check anyway mi ght as well play better instead of ams right
but cloak lets me fail the iq check in peace
jk they have a talent that makes it also remove all the debuffs
increases its cd to 1m tho


bro farting on main

did they announce any real balance changes yet
prob after rwf right
💀
thank god
lowkey...
rogue is so back
#creditcard debt
Today I realize
do it queen
i am also proud that when i typed fart in my emoji bar nothing came up
idk what kinda servers awang is in but
💅

but i like this
lobotomeow

which final boss
i did like a bunch of bosses in this raid tho even if i didnt like how rogue plays on them
Must be talking about lura
the final boss of the dreamrift is aweosme
good take but
Yeah I knew that was coming
@vivid vessel echo 18% lolol?
that would get u like 300 upvotes on reddit
Echo > liquid lol.. @formal knot
ross you do this every tier
and then liquid wins
you gotta stop ..
Idk I don’t have enough karma on Reddit
fr....
its embarassing
is liquid raiding yet
how much did you bet on echo
exile isnt live :c
echo!
login
It’s a method tier
a 200 pull boss with mythic splits being done, this might might be a long one
for most guilds
or a heavily nerfed boss
W
W
its not even their best chars
did you know
I want liquid to win to read gingi’s tweets
they chose their 2nd best chars with vantus
Yeah that’s actually demonic man
thats how much gear these guys have
ye
Yea
so real
so they can vantus both bosses this week
i bet vantus outweigh the gear you could get form this boss on ur main righ?
Having a discussion with a buddy thinking about maining havoc DH. He insists havoc has more skill expression than outlaw.
I don’t know much about them other than their rotations are pretty static I think. He insists cause of Inertia?
Anyone know both that can chime in?
Yeah
W ragebait
Also the trinket is just worse than the dreamrift one anyways
i was 180 when i hit 90
gg
W
I mean ur a peon
a lazy one at that
my queen is not peon
it's hard for me to argue that current outlaw has skill expression
I dunno what this means lol
Pretty sure I saw you when I was playing wc3 recently
have u guys seen the video of the guy looking at 2 ducks
hm
I said “get to work”
in a vacuum training dummy situation i agree
say that to all the globals i miss
but good outlaws still gap
play sub bro
so theres something
w*rk u mean........
J*b
sub is litteraly 10 times easier than outlaw
there is expression is just being melee in general
and i think relative to all wow specs, outlaw has skill expression
mid havoc still outperforms a good outlaw tho
if thats even possible
just cuz dh moment
depends on what umean by good
i mean inertia is like 2 buttons to proc too and the rule is just inertia into eye beam no
wow is still balanced enough rn where if u truly blast you beat most specs playing pretty good
it all depends on how u interpret pretty good
i kill a boss with 78% jackpot uptime and call it skill expression

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pNnFkfZ4c1Y3mHGh?fight=3&type=damage-done
guys im bad at outlaw but if there anyone who can point out important mistakes i can fix to improve would be big help thanks ❤️
whats the stats on not rolling jackpot once on a 7 min boss

legit got me malding
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get shit on
shit kinda cringe rn
Ur bad at ragebaiting 
so rng this spec i feel
outlaw is like crack
they just need to add a pseudo count the odds for bad luck protection and maybe tune the buffs down abit
i just think whats somewhat unique to law that i can remember, the true rank 1 logs are probably going to be jackpot rollers eventually
and we bing chilling
chinese pad parse + jackpot combo
yoou can simply never get jackpot in a bnoss right rn
and if that happens u will simply do less dmg
you can still 99
I mean jackpot is less impactful than just chaining bte tho
but it wont be r1
tbh
You sure about that?
yes
if you get a good roll when you have kir its giga
U think 5 resets in a row is not giga
real
a good roll in the opener is like twice as good as a good roll 1 min into the fight
like it used to be fun fishing for better KiR
^^^
this dont happen
you used to always be able to get a decent kir
jackpot having the cdr and crit is just too giga
so idc about that
Wdym it doesn’t happen
Sometimes ace proc back to back to back
KiR a two buff feels bad even tho its good
ace procs back to back a lot
kir should just + 1 idk
someone link the clip of zac not getitng 1 bte reset but doing 730k first pull seat
imagine if he did get reset
its so cringe you have to kir 2 buffer
there should be a way to upgrade your roll
fr fr
did you see my new one tho
i dont play competitively so im funmaxxing
holding it til 3buff minimum
idgaf
the one in nexus point mewo
Is it just br doing all the dmg zac?
if the arguement is taht u can bte chain forever then sure bte chain more impactful than jackpot roll
from like yesterday?
like every 4 BtE your roll upgrades by 1 or something
ye
but in real world
what is br
jackpot wins
oh nvm
a jackpot roll without kir ready isnt that big

a jackpot roll WITH kir ready is literally twice as good
mewo and weran so cooked on their jackpot takes
Okay but like
I just know how to math
not that big * 2 = ?

i guess 90% crit on bte is good also
Bte chaining is just as impactful as getting a 5 buff or not, spec has giga variance cause of the apex talent dps buff u get from bte
ok hear me out
im actually liking that we are using blade rush
but it doesnt reset between dice rolls
i hate when weran and mewo go: well jackpot isnt actually that good its just a little better than 3
thast the goat
It’s 2 different layers of rng which is giga stupid
yes like I said
maths
jackpot has stage 3 dumbas
mewo ur the biggest semantics
wtf is this
is what im saying
@gaunt phoenix
arguing with u makes me feel like guy
the logs dont show it right
u are not fun to argue with
tbh
i guess its like
because u say dumbshit thats technically right
its a fake drop down
not flaming
i dont think youre right
then whats the issue
His name is engineered frustration
really with most things u say
Lmao
whenever one of the async buffs expires it "corrects itself" and looks weird
i kinda just read ur takes
make sense i guess
drama drama
ne way were not even disagreeing here
still did 760k
you started this one
were complaining about how rng the spec is
can we just flame blizzard together
as friends
if u 3 buffed u wouldve done 200k
palys diceroll spec
complains its rng
okay ik im bad now but the highest ive gotten on a pull in keys is 200k
??
confirmed bad at math
I want playstyle variance not output variance
sounds like u need to focus up
just win then
winners win
be a winner
the spec used to dice roll but you were still able to force strong output
I mean you need a tank to pull everything and also to have 4 pc and to play prep
ngl I REALLLLLY hope they dont buff trickster
Cause u have uncapped AoE
just cuz the builder rules are so awk
what was the 3 target discourse about
bro ..
Supercharged killing spree sit in that shit for a minute btw
but having perma tricks would be sick
3 target = beastmode or asscheeks
Ass
i still would beat you noob
i peaked at 730k 30s into the pull awang
wanna know what ive also seen monksea is the goat of grouping
its legit a 1mil peak no cap
i know
dude im casual these days
like zac u guys do big pulls so efficient
i forgot what i was doing, i blame you awang, fuck you
it doesnt work in discord
oh shit you talking to me rn?
not in an aggro way but like a genuinely i didnt know u were talking to me
wang

I wonder what sub peaks at
Sub peaks at 2 mil
you talking to me with this or?
ye bro let me see it
let me see a sin or sub doing that in keys rn
i dont understand how law can burst so high
i do
It is lol
br > reset br
one billion targets
is kinda big
so are we playing prep in keys now?
no
rip
Br procs main gooch on every target
always have been
too high brain power usage
shit i gotta do that then
yeah but main coochie was low dmg too
its always has been if u are pushing
Check what % was main gooch
ive just been a 10s andy
mint we need to focus up ok?
twinning
But I believe main gooch flurries
3%
Maybe
it does
it does
training arc
its still shit though
From all targets
yes
No it’s not lmao
Playing Prep on Trickster feels so weird
do 9s give myth crests now?
i did 150k to to the trio boss yesterday in seat
has tobe WR
@vivid vessel fuck you
@vivid vessel fuck you
Having to give up either 1/2 SD or KiR is such an awful choice
(fittng in)
Don’t copy awang
you never drop KiR
Bad role model
why is ur pfp alyssa liu
Because she is Alysa Liu
hol shit big fan
make it something cool like turtwig
i also need to workshop (mechagon) how to use prep perfectly in a key like alge
❌
banger bit
lowkey
u probs just cant have it for bird
“Gaslighting a WoW rogue server into thinking I’m Alysa Liu” new YT video dropping soon
u freaks gaslit urselves
@past falcon send the screenshot
i didnt do anything
i did
yeah
this is boss damage tho
yeah ngl I feel like prep should be lined up with KiR
chillax brewmasta dmg
it feels kinda meh
you know how it is
the famous outlaw funnel
Gnawa would’ve died 1 sec into the pull 
no no
i removed the start with adds
lol or? @keen belfry
ah so u cheated
u talking to me?
ok i removed the cheat
lol or? @vivid vessel
No
nice one
and its still better
I meant for zac
you mad
okay I see the vision wang
its good
zac cheated on me too
u see
Druid 3% vers is 18% dps
sure lil bud
just say you got gapped
i dont lie
Is that how u learned math in the us?
yeah i get it now
More like clapped
i made it clap if anything
king of noobs is stilla king
just looking for my queen..
@glass shard heyyyyyyyyyy
yo
????
i was told ur a bad influence
swing and a miss
look how many Ys awang put man
W
thats fucked up talkin bout "yo"
W
🧘♂️ we dont chase we attract 🧘♂️
lmfao
L saying this right after a hey with 14 ys
L wang
nice man
Basically same energy as where’s my hug
thanks alyssa liu
nah havent seen popo around
i watched a person i know in real life hit the where's my hug
"If i hit with you that WYD, but you better not hit me back with a h e y, it better like HIIIII with a bunch of Is or HEYYYY with a bunch of Ys"
we're not friends anymore
slutty amount of y's mandatory or DO NOT RESPOND
u put two stars u bozo
i wanted to censor W*st
big L
i have standup in 30 seconds
too many Ls not enough Ys
hey team! got stood up in outlaw rogue discord today by allssas lu!
thats my update for today
all sass lu
i won a gold medal at the olympics u dont even come first on the dmg meter gup
dont ping me
even mintfresh feels they need to comfort u...
mogged
its not looking good awang....
bring back dazar alor
reminds me of brakenhide
its a blaster dungeon
have u done 200k in there yet
prolly
thats also why i donnt like it
no i didnt
i dont like failing iq check on cooldown
no clue i dont remmeber what happened that key
and shaman
his tank did 20k more dps then urs
clearly it was all leached from zac
100% leech
ah i rmemeber
we trolled the totems
so we had to go back
to do random packs
with 1 mobs
to get totems
two boys kissing
and some crap
thoughts?
lewd
only if you're into it
hmmmmmm
interesting
wangposting
deserved for not having gateway shard
Zac tricked me in to crafting a dagger, now I can't outlaw good no more
....
thank you @true jackal
ok time to int some more keys with 150+ BPM MUSIC on im busy
no loot in cavern
ok but have u considered trying queuing ur own key
no1 is signing
i am a 10 year veteran of doing keys and this one easy trick
nono
you just need to
queue up, your own key
🙂
it fixes all of lfg problems i promise!!!
i dont get it
queue it up lil buddy
i cant help you anymore, my pugging advice all comes from reddit and the forums and i gave you all of it
godspeed

OP delivers!!!
le epic pupper doggo ! updoot
10 year veteran of doing +10 keys on all classes in the game @vivid vessel watchu got buddy? Weeklies on 1 char only? lol or?
right?
imagine saying things like "im the number one outlaw in keys" yea ok blud thats like 1 spec out of 30
I actually know 1 guy
show me ur all 10s completed on all roles lil gup
thats the only achievement i care about
Who does weeklies on all classes since legion release
Till today
He streams all of it with 1 viewer

as long as hes having fun
Hes genuinely the most pug andy in wow
ye bro yoda
He got all curves
Only 1 cutting edge where method josh helped his guild kill it
Funniest arab accent of all time
Where buffs
You’ll genuinely die laughing hearing the accent 
next tier bro
Top tier angery arab raid leading
10/10
Honestly one of the most fun ive had in raiding
@vivid vessel i think if liquid doesnt pass 19% today it will be extra lol or?
7/8m alts only

Cuz technically echo and liquid are at the same time since release but they’re ahead
wdym extra lol
So ye
lol wdym
lol wdym xd
lol wdym omegalul xd

lol wdym extra deluxe omagelul lol xdd premium ++
TIL I suck
you're doing great honey
I mean
most people aren't
also screw that devourer dosen't have lust
Or a brez
lust is massively overrated anyway
inviting a rogue is pretty dumb tbh
they bring nothing to the group
people will invite someone that is 600 score lower and -5 lvls with no raid prog just to get a lust
and it's a massive waste
unless you for some reason think that rogue players are just inherently better than other specs theres no reason to bring one
I mean even with it
yea it's not great
depends on ur comp sorta tho doesnt it
but i do agree people will take way too big an L to get lust or brez
when consumables exist
they should buff numbing to match the warlock curses
and make atrophic a class passive that just applies to any of your poisons
since it is suppose to be our raid buff
true
i often wish i had numbing
and numbing isnt even good either
would it relaly break the game if we had both ..
split numbing into attack speed or cast speed and juice the numbers a ton
make atro passive
blizzard thinks so
Cuz they are
Very smart
They know better zac ok

are all the class discords like this or are we just actually the neglected children
what
fel hammer is normal
only other one i’m in tho
no way someone called fel hammer normal
from the ones ive seen, outlaw disc is very active especially for how few players there are
fel hammer is normal like its normal for me to experience crackheads screaming on the subway on my communte into nyc
its not actually normal but u spend enough time doing it and u get used to it

like the discord activity to raid parses is a hilarious ratio for outlaw
we yap more than we play
we just seem upset about the state of rogue
which is fair
but do other classes doom their own class as much i suppose is the question
hey at least we arent shutting down our discord
This discord is literally always like this
It doesnt really matter how good or bad rogue is
i think ret discord should shut down again
tbh I feel like were not even dooming much right now
we know its bad
it was worse leading into this season
right now people are just playing
obv in seasons like DF s3 people were super hyped
mostly chatting about tc optimizations and such
way less dooming
s3 tww was pretty justified outlaw was kinda in the gutter
at the end of the day, im still having fun playing rogue. not gonna switch to a silly pally.
s2 was just complaints about how shit of a design killing spree was and the bladeflurry bug at the beginning of the season
tauren is the biggest damage increase if ur horde aint it?
yeah
Panda now
We panda gaming
the only time i play panda is if i play monk
panda is bis race cuz low cortisol
panda is more than tauren? 💀
Yes
Have you seen skyhold?
Or archeus?
The dooming there is eteneral




