outlaw

[digital linden]

isnt it worth to upgrade something else

[mighty pivot]

if you have them on myth why would you spend dinars on them?

[digital linden]

im so lost as well

i read it as upgrade prio

😭

[mighty pivot]

lol ok

[worldly shale]

happy legion everyone, how many disconnects?

u guys like my mount?

[copper radish]

Is that box ur mount lol

[worldly shale]

yes

this is it on bars

[timid idol]

wtf is a lost legion demon btw

[blissful idol]

anyone ever got a bug with hard mode tazavesh where loot wont appear even after not dying?

[inner meadow]

Such an L

Murder had aura

[worldly shale]

why tf did they change that

[inner meadow]

Losers

[worldly shale]

"oh no murder is bad, lets name it CRESCENDO OF VIOLENCE"

[vivid vessel]

same reason they changed dispatcher and slicerdicer

they pussied out no cap !

cant keep a funny name

[viral bison]

TBH murder was better xd

like

MURDER the boss

not crescendo of violence

Cut? but dmg increase? shouldnt it be like rend lol

[worldly shale]

peak boxriding

[viral bison]

ITS INSANE LOL

[worldly shale]

WTF

we a cowboy pirate killer spiderman now

me need this title

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

thats not insane its 20% chance

thats the type of addong you call trash

[viral bison]

its free defensive 😄

[young prism]

@vivid vessel you arround?

[gaunt phoenix]

no

[young prism]

😄

[vivid vessel]

no

are you

[young prism]

nope

in stealth

[vivid vessel]

if its for anything other than giving me a alpah key

i cant answer

[young prism]

I was doing some simulations with fatebound for m+

did you check to see if there is any difference?

[vivid vessel]

ye dont do that

[young prism]

why not :/

[vivid vessel]

just act as if fatebound didnt exist in keys

trust me bro

[young prism]

I want to really trust me 😄

did you try for this week?

because numbers are very similar but

well I don't know whats going to happen obviously

[vivid vessel]

i tried a week or so ago

not much changed anywya

i got cancer

first of all you dont have perma tricks

second of all it does the same damage in st anywya idk

third of all you have so much less flexibility

its all fake damage

like what are you gonna do

when you have to go out of melee for a few gcds

and you cant vanish

and you cant press gs

or whatever

things desync

then its all over

cringe af

fuck fatebound bro

[copper radish]

Zac crashing out time for midnight 😂

[young prism]

I see 😄

I thought maybe the fix might do something about it

in terms of single target i mean

because to me, equal single target damage for last week seem quite reasonable

considering the bug in fb

[blissful idol]

Zac was waiting for someone to ask for fatebound

To unleash

[vivid vessel]

well fb is supposedly 13% ahead in st in raid

[young prism]

Yeah I noticed 😄

[vivid vessel]

the bug was 3% only

[young prism]

Well I was just curious man. Obviously, I'm not arguing about what you just say but it feels different I just can't explain

in dummies btw 😄

anyway thanks for explnations, good night everyone see you later

[vivid vessel]

what feels different

just doing more damage or what

idk if you can notice 3% damage

[young prism]

In raid I was playing with 5.5 at loom

[vivid vessel]

i just hate fatebound i dont think its flexible enough

and you are still losing like 8% aoe

to do about 8% more st

[young prism]

now I was testing dummies trick is 14M fb is 12m

[vivid vessel]

but idk idc the st is fake cause of the flexibility thing

so idk

[strong halo]

Zzzz is this socket angle? I already have tier. 2 crafted weapons

[vivid vessel]

i dont fuck with fatebound

[strong halo]

Unless somehow 3 ilvls on weapon is worth the mastery

[vivid vessel]

@fathom bramble we are starting great bro

holy maceroni !

[pastel sierra]

Ez sandbag

How many parses are that

5?

[vivid vessel]

id kwaht happened there

[vivid vessel]

1

very based person

[fathom bramble]

looks about right

[pastel sierra]

i was gonna say

[frail veldt]

dude wtf thats op thats like 4% DR!

[pastel sierra]

To be the only outlaw rogue in mythic that raids on wednesday

[fathom bramble]

it's wild that this fight is worse for outlaw than basically any fight could possibly be for any other spec

[strong halo]

Thoughts? Prayers?

[pastel sierra]

And absolutely troll the whole reclear

[vivid vessel]

okok

im feeling good lok

outlaw is almost last on every boss

and the only boss its doing good on

aint on all stars

so get fucked

we gonna be eating good next tuning round

in 2 weeks now

[fathom bramble]

"next tuning round"

week 2 of season 1 midnight you mean

[vivid vessel]

dw about it cuh

soon

its in 2 weeks ok

you trust me riht

[frail veldt]

I wish

keep doin gods work

mythic raiders you know what to do

[pastel sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bogdanov-bogdanof-bitcoin-on-the-phone-gif-12411899

[long barn]

Maybe there’s a cook we haven’t discovered, blizzard just taunting us to keep cooking

40,000 points into mastery

On another topic. With the 8/8 boost is nightfall OH 691 still worth?

[glass mortar]

the 678 one was worth over myth weapons before so

probably

[strong halo]

Really? The 678 was not worth for me but the 691 was

I was expecting the 691 to die off with boost

[covert kestrel]

Hopium zac scares me

[forest glade]

Sword for tmog

[hollow garnet]

kind of a weird place to ask since i doubt anyone is optimizing this content but with the egregious amount of mastery you can get on remix does that raise the value of main gouche related talents? lmao

[quaint mauve]

main gouche is better than KS in current content might aswell

am i right or am i right

[elder phoenix]

why is dagger OH better again for outlaw

[torpid fiber]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[ancient socket]

The only time I willingly used a dagger was in SL, the sylvanas dagger was too good.

[copper radish]

can we get one of those or a sword for midnight pls

[ancient socket]

We had that fist weapon in the first raid

along with that trinket

[craggy quiver]

bad seed

[tight kernel]

Its time

[copper radish]

bye bye WA tracker

[quaint mauve]

ts frying me

[dawn talon]

arcane was doing like 10 trillion boss damage come on

let's not lie to ourselves and act like this 3% is a big deal

[quaint mauve]

no bro they were only good at their max potential

what does that even mean

aren’t most classes good when played properly

[compact moon]

Question: slam blade flurry pretty much on cd for soul hunters?

[quaint mauve]

you don’t take deft

[errant terrace]

are we still cutting KS short in fatebound ST? 2 points in fth

even in dmg amp?

[zenith root]

The conditions for Killing spree confuse me a little bit.

-Killing Spree at 6 or more combo points. Do not cast during Subterfuge and do not cast over Vanish if Adrenaline Rush is active and has 5 or less seconds remaining.

Since Subterfuge last 6 seconds and, AR lasts 20 seconds but you dont want to use killing spree with 5 seconds of AR left... So you basically have a 9 second window where you can use Killing spree?

[quaint mauve]

i don’t think abt it that way

[torpid fiber]

Adr isn't tied to subterfuge, they're basically seperate timers

[quaint mauve]

i just press it on cd outve stealth idk

that too

[agile quiver]

UHUH makes sub pause AR, so it's two separate conditionals

[torpid fiber]

(5s is probably also a bit longer than necessary tbh, but maybe there's some sim reason)

[agile quiver]

don't use KS right after you use Vanish

don't use KS if AR is about to run out and you have Vanish available

[zenith root]

But you prolong Adr with vanish dont you?

[torpid fiber]

Yes

[ancient socket]

Ye

[torpid fiber]

But vanish is a different cd to adr

you only use vanish while in adr

But you don't only use adr when you use vanish

(technically fatebound wants to try to do weird macro stuff but)

[agile quiver]

it might help to think if it another way: using Vanish adds time (6s) to the AR duration, from 20 s to 26 s
(it's just not shown that way, it pauses it instead)

[zenith root]

You use vanish when Sub ends during ADR?

So Adr and Ks usually line up?

[torpid fiber]

Don't think about cooldowns for outlaw as lining up

[zenith root]

ooohhh

[zenith root]

Oh, sub assa habits

[torpid fiber]

Yeah, restless blades does weird stuff

• we don't really have large damage amp cds

[zenith root]

So do we only use KS during Adr or do we use it outside also?

[torpid fiber]

You press adr if it's off cd even if it's already active (specifically as a builder in that case afaik) as trickster (and similar for fatebound but also there's the macro stuff)

KS can be used outside of adr

The reason for only vanishing in adr is that adr gives you reduced GCDs while active, which means you get 2 extra gcds in your subterfuge window

[quaint mauve]

you send everything on cooldown

[torpid fiber]

Tbf that's not true this tier

bc both hero talents are weird

Fatebound holds vanish for GS and trickster has the crazyass finisher prio stack

[quaint mauve]

trickster is still basically still everything on cd tho no?

[torpid fiber]

Adr is closer to a maintenance buff than a cooldown in the current iteration of outlaw

[quaint mauve]

just don’t vanish when coup is coming

kappa

[torpid fiber]

you hold vanish if ks is coming up soon for example

[quaint mauve]

yeah but that’s like different

[zenith root]

I hear send everything on CD also

Whats GS?

[quaint mauve]

you hold if u get KS in like 2 finishers basically

ghostly strike

[torpid fiber]

Also you use the two charges of vanish as trickster to minmax flawless form stacks without wasting cdr but that's just normal two charges gameplay

[zenith root]

So to clarify, things I hold for:

• Fatebound holds vanish for GS
• Vanish for Adr
• Two charges of vanish as trickster to minmax flawless form

[torpid fiber]

You never hold for the second charge

[quaint mauve]

never overcap vanish stacks

[torpid fiber]

Rather, having two charges means you can hold one charge without wasting Restless Blades cooldown reduction

[quaint mauve]

ever ever ever

[torpid fiber]

Iirc KS is actually prio over vanish even at 2 vanish stacks but that only comes up in the opener

I think part of the trick to learning outlaw is just hitting dummies a bunch

it's weird enough that a lot of the ideas don't really make sense until you actually experience them

[agile quiver]

it's why I wish we had 2 charges on everything with a cooldown

it just pairs so well with restless

[torpid fiber]

2 charge adr would be awesome

[agile quiver]

oh this I did not know. so do your initial Crackshot window from normal stealth, then KS, then first Vanish?

[torpid fiber]

Iirc from when i asked solo, yeah

but if you have 2 vanish charges you don't hold vanish for low cd ks, only if ks is off cd

[gaunt phoenix]

yep

cause if you KS over Vanish you lose like 6 seconds of vanish CDR, but if you Vanish over KS you lose god knows how much KS CDR

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar
Wordle 1,573 3/6*

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[zenith root]

Cool cool awesome thanks a lot

[zenith root]

So in the opener you use KS over vanish in adr?

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[zenith root]

tyty

[silver forum]

are we able to unlock the thunderfury hidden apperance in legion remix ?

[olive marten]

M Nexus king nerf was pretty big... finally killed it lol

[gaunt phoenix]

[agile quiver]

there's no mining, so don't think so

you need 10 Infernal brimstone

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Bindings_of_the_Windlord_(quest)

[silver forum]

gotcha thanks

[woeful otter]

anyone tried Unyielding Netherprism？

[torpid fiber]

it feels really good and is a lot of fun

[elder phoenix]

its interesting im 718 ilvl and raidbots wants me to get rid of vers

and wants me to get 22% haste

[frail veldt]

LOL

[keen belfry]

This is my 2nd group

[unkempt smelt]

EU servers are down ?

[elder phoenix]

wait hoild up

people actually playing legion remix? looool

[shell fossil]

i did it i made a second rogue for legion

now i will hoover all the gear

with specificity

[frank finch]

why cant i take this

[vivid vessel]

you dont deserve it

[proven ocean]

take the ones before

the one big node before it

u need full 3/3 on it, u have items lying to you

[frank finch]

i c

[timid idol]

one cool thing about remix is i get to play ho again

i dont think ive played this shit since like raszageth

i forgot how satisfying ambush sfx is

[forest glade]

Coz no tier?

[wintry solar]

We couldve had this as the drakthyr but nooooooooooo

[wintry solar]

because builds dont matter at a certain point

[ruby quail]

does thiefs versatility do anything in legion remix? My character screen doesnt show any versatility

[shell fossil]

wait does vers exist in legion

im scared

[wintry solar]

this is where you get your vers

its not on gear

[merry venture]

Ahoi fellow outlaws and pirates,

I may ask to the Legion remix playin' folks.
Is there any recommend which artefakt trait is recommend at yet or is it just personal preference?

[timid idol]

just go like this

take everything in that small beginning and then go 2nd line

[wintry solar]

twisted crusade is the best but theyre all pretty good tbh

im going tempest wrath

[vagrant island]

Same, i feel it does more damage than Twisted Crusade. It's easier to align with pulls. Not as much of a delay, and you can actively "target" where and what it damages

[wintry solar]

yeah im prolly not going back to Twisted Crusade myself

[hollow creek]

Hallo can anybody see What im doing wrong on loomithar log please

[stone vault]

WHERES THE DAMAGE METER BRAGGING THREAD

My beloved creation

[vivid vessel]

it goes to sleep after a bit

[stone vault]

what have you done to it

[vivid vessel]

just wake it up

[stone vault]

but its gone

[torpid fiber]

No one posted there last 7 days

So you have to navigate through the threads ui again

[stone vault]

Ah fair fair

[timid idol]

small amount of mastery on remix

[worldly shale]

Holy schmoly

Mastery mainstat when

[timid idol]

💀

[wintry solar]

Mastery best stat on remix

[timid idol]

if only

[wintry solar]

Well vers isn't on gear

[copper radish]

Call to the Forrest gets pretty good

[red zinc]

Nothing compared to fel tree

[forest glade]

I dunno tempest is pretty good

[red zinc]

Detonation button capstone on fel tree oneshots mythic+ mobs

Shits out of hand

[quaint mauve]

bro no one’s doing keys 😭

[proven ocean]

?

new account or what

[quaint mauve]

hm?

i just wanna farm crests man

every group is oce

[proven ocean]

goon guy

ur the goon guy with ur gf's pfp

or are u another person

[quaint mauve]

ye

that’s me

[proven ocean]

ah

cuz u got a pink discord icon i got confused

[quaint mauve]

there we go

[vivid vessel]

Your gf have a phone instead of a face tho

Maybe she a bot

[quaint mauve]

she’s one of those like

japanese maid robots

[glass mortar]

reign of chaos is the best rn

its broken as long as ur not playing a cloth caster

or caster in general ig apparently its bugged and not scaling off int

[covert kestrel]

You're tryna play at 5am pst or 8am est ofc it's all oce

[torpid fiber]

yeah that's bc it's 11pm aedt

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[shell ingot]

Hi guys
Did anyone use Cursed Stone Idol in M+? It sims quite high but is it convenient to use in real run?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah it's fine

it's uncapped

just cast it after stealth window is over

[quaint mauve]

it’s the only time i get to play

before i clock in to my 18 hour shift

[shell ingot]

Got it, thank you

[quiet root]

it is clunky but you definitely see it in your numbers on aoe

it doesn't spellqueue or anything so it feels off

unless you land in a situation where you KS into it, then it feels normal

[worldly shale]

leveling outlaw on remix is uber fun!

[copper radish]

Yeah not for the first 30-40 it wasn’t 😂

[vapid knoll]

anyone playing KiR in Legion Remix?

because wowhead is recommending HO for leveling and also for max lvl

[gaunt phoenix]

it's all vibes

there's no tc or sims or whatever

or at least not in here

[lime lake]

dreadlord does all the damage anyway

who needs talents

[vivid vessel]

wowhead writers are HO shills

I wouldnt trust anyone recommending HO they are prollly mac cooked

[gaunt phoenix]

mac cooked

[vivid vessel]

ye

[lime lake]

opinions like a mcdonalds cooked egg

[vivid vessel]

burnt eggs type shit

[vapid knoll]

KiR 4tw

[copper radish]

Didn’t guy write that? Lol

[hybrid crown]

If we are talking remix I'm playing HO for sure

I ain't pressing KIR on quest mobs

[copper radish]

HO is fun leveling oh wait I can’t get it till I’m in the 60s 😭

[hybrid crown]

When the content gets to the point where I might press KIR I'm switching to assa anyways because outlaw is kinda bad due to scaling anyways

Yeah when you hit that 60 something range and you can finally talent into crackshot 🤤

[copper radish]

Yeah and then hit 71 and get 2 shot by mobs

Can’t wait to enjoy it for a couple levels and then have to wait till 80 to enjoy it again lol

[lime lake]

You catch up again pretty fast

[hybrid crown]

Just gotta keep your gear constantly upgraded to the current level and it's not that bad

If it's anything like mop

[lime lake]

There's just like a 80 ilvl gap when you hit 70 between what you have and what will strat dropping

Once you catch up you op again

And dreadlord still fucks

[hybrid crown]

The last 10 levels are bad because having a few pieces of gear one level behind can be a double digit percent loss in health/dps

Its crazy how steep the scaling is those last 10 levels

[copper radish]

Can’t wait to have verse at level 80

[long barn]

Is any of the Fatebound coin tech still working?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[hybrid crown]

Does the fix make the macros more important to use

[gaunt phoenix]

probably

[echo whale]

hello guys, about haste in outlaw how much % dont go over please ?

[glass mortar]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[echo whale]

thanks ! I have 23% so I should enchant gems vers crit

[glass mortar]

mhm

[craggy quiver]

Imma hit 6m sim finally if I upgraded everything. Too bad raid is deadge

[worldly shale]

Ok this is hillarious

They forgor about outlaw

Existing

[craggy quiver]

What tier list is this loo

[worldly shale]

idk legion remix random one

but just funny

[craggy quiver]

Oh

[hybrid crown]

Outlaw is actually booty when you max your gear and start relying on stat increase from the artifact wep

Its too bad the wep ilvl doesn't infinitely scale

[gaunt phoenix]

Booty like pirate

[hybrid crown]

I actually paid attention to the questline for the outlaw artifact this time

Heck yeah pirate questline

[hasty warren]

there's no evoker in remix

[grim spear]

what happened?

[vivid vessel]

They removed padding

@fathom bramble

[grim spear]

[gaunt phoenix]

if this actually makes blizz do something

lost all faith they put more than 5 minutes into tuning

[lime lake]

why would they tune during fated season

[proven ocean]

5 min too much !~

[craggy quiver]

11.2.7 for sure!

[vivid vessel]

Can people stop saying this

It's absurd

That every expac

We let blizzard get away

With doing less and less

[lime lake]

sorry i forgot to garf

[vivid vessel]

Remember when we had a S4

And that was fated

Now they drop S3 and they are already done working on the expac since s2

[near rock]

bro is just blizzards #1 hater

[vivid vessel]

Ok ots

I don't answer to blizzard shills

I hope you lose all the money you put into Activision when it ultimately dies

[glass mortar]

zac idk what to tell u, u cant be on top always

or in the case of outlaw, basically ever

anyway

i didnt care about tuning during fated seasons because i didnt care about fated seasons but this is a real ass season so its pretty funny

wonder what metric they could even be using to think outlaw is ok

maybe they thought the fatebound bugfix would unironically help us at all

[vivid vessel]

I mean I just said they gave up on the expac basically earlier than any expac

People are litteraly calling S3 fated

[glass mortar]

ok but that doesnt rlly track with them doing tuning like 2 days ago

[vivid vessel]

That's how much blizzard gaslight people

[glass mortar]

they did like pissall tuning during fated

[vivid vessel]

Idk if you are trolling or not rn

Can't tell

[glass mortar]

wdym

[grim spear]

I don’t care what tier m+ is

But Manaforge is the final showdown of this expansion

the last and most important battle

And this spec is not even playable in it, and you think that’s okay?

[glass mortar]

who thinks thats ok

[grim spear]

[dark sable]

me when i ragebait

[glass mortar]

what

im so confused rn

about whatever impression all 3 of u got from what i typed

[grim spear]

idk

Maybe we’re just insane.

[glass mortar]

whole season feels like a joke which is probably not the vibe i wanted to get off what was supposed to be us fighting a world ender but w/e

[lime lake]

i forgot to garf and upset zac

[dark sable]

how could you

[glass mortar]

universe ender actually now that i think about it

[dark sable]

i was actually saying that to aoh

bc of the last message

mb

[vivid vessel]

I'm just asking if you are trolling in regard to this message

Cause you can't think what they did was tuning

[dark sable]

but talking about tuning i mean

[glass mortar]

uh i mean

its bad tuning?

does bad tuning not count as tuning

im confused

i was just saying during fated seasons they literally gave no fuks and did like zero tuning

entire season

[dark sable]

wasnt blizzards whole outlaw tuning just "your KS sucks now, lmao" and that´s it?

[vivid vessel]

It's nerfing 3 specs by like 3%

[glass mortar]

theyve tuned like 5 times this season

[vivid vessel]

And calling it a day

[dark sable]

no, it does not lol

[glass mortar]

and yes the math of the tuning is bad what do u want me to say

[dark sable]

specially after they spent like 3 monts diddling DK´s butthole and reworking them every other week

and then for rogue they are just like

[glass mortar]

dw im sure someone at blizzard saved the pages of feedback that went ignored about kspree for its future changes

(they asked us to make the feedback thread btw)

[dark sable]

here´s 20% more damage bc we can't be bother to figure out what to do with ass
here's a KS animation change
uhhhhhh subtlety isn't a real spec

that was basically their entire rogue tuning this season

[cerulean portal]

do we play fatebound now in m+?

[vivid vessel]

No

[cerulean portal]

why not D:

[dark sable]

isn't it ass on aoe for outlaw too?

[glass mortar]

because its bad

and its damage profile is even worse

[vivid vessel]

^

[frail veldt]

It does less damage and is worse to play

[glass mortar]

some of the routes of chain pulling this season r so cringe too

i cant imagine not playing with perma tricks

when my pala tank goes off on a 25 second adventure

of body pulling/1 ability pulling mobs

and what r u gunna do sit and afk for 15s

tricks literally doesnt last long enough to do a full rotation into the guys

[remote pecan]

best thing about trickster, but it should be baseline, who cares about threat in 2025

[daring oxide]

@reals pls help us

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-capybra-ride-baby-capybara-two-capybara-baby-capybaras-gif-3774921832849281680

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean what the helly

new game of throne tv show

did you see

[proven ocean]

what the helly welly

real?

[vivid vessel]

ye ral bro

[proven ocean]

wtf

[vivid vessel]

it looks like a chill lil thing

no dragon and shit

just a chill guy

chilling

[worldly shale]

Did u watch the dragon spinoff

Was it good

[copper radish]

Dunk N Egg game of thrones

Future king hiding as a peasant and joining or watching the knight games

[desert tendon]

@proven ocean what the helly
new game of throne tv show
did you see

[proven ocean]

ya whjat the helly

[desert tendon]

what the helly

[copper radish]

6 episodes though some BS

[proven ocean]

is it out btw

or

[copper radish]

Nope next year I think

[proven ocean]

is it some 2026 or 2028 shit

ye figured

[copper radish]

Same with the dragon spinoff next year

3 years for 6 episode 😭

[proven ocean]

dont care stop announcing tv shows tv show guys...ur wasting my brain power thinking when it will release...

just release and stop talk...

tv show ppl..

thoughts?

[desert tendon]

helly

[copper radish]

None

[proven ocean]

like no cappy yea like

[covert kestrel]

Cuh

[proven ocean]

they give u a teaser

tv show in 5 years

when it gets released in 5 years then u get 1 episode per month

like whats the point

wtf am i enjoying here or?

[copper radish]

If someone could get George to finish the books that would be cool

[gusty pagoda]

Wasn't this announced back in 2024?

[copper radish]

It was 😂

[gusty pagoda]

Well delayed hype is still hype I guess

[copper radish]

If only we could go back in time and change season 8

[proven ocean]

crazy how everyone hated it and they still released it knowing it'll happen

it almost feels like they didnt watch season 8 themselves

[glass mortar]

they just wanted to be done with it

[jade abyss]

bubbling wax still a thing?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

but i dont know if 2 of them stack correctly

[jade abyss]

yeah just one

only fights with full ST right?

[gaunt phoenix]

i also used it in a key where it failed to proc at all

so idk

what's wrong with it

[gaunt phoenix]

Or light cleave it should win

if it works

[jade abyss]

yeah alright

[worldly shale]

chat wtf is this wowhead page for remix outlaw

real?

[lime lake]

real

[bright crane]

AI generated

Fake news

[copper radish]

I’m rocking it it’s p good

[worldly shale]

idk i cant pick HO

my nervous system wont allow it

[copper radish]

HO feeling good

[hasty warren]

!ho

!ambush

[ornate heath]

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

[warped pelican]

Is there a remix channel or discord for Outlaw? If not, what builds are people playing? And what artifact path? I tried Fel but to be honest, doing heroic world tier stuff is pretty rough. Outlaw has very low healing.

[glass mortar]

there is no channel no

but plenty of people r playing it

[covert kestrel]

theres a thread as a part of #wow-general

for general rogue/ppl from here playing it

[warped pelican]

Thanks

[copper radish]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1425380978343284778

[wraith mist]

Hey guys im trying to dust off my outlaw rogue.. how important is haste for energy regen?

[covert kestrel]

its not important for energy regen but its vimportant due to adrenaline rush scaling off of haste

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[wraith mist]

Alright thanks good info, thanks a lot! Is this true for pvp as well?

[covert kestrel]

probably but no clue never pvp'd, can ask in #pvp or see if they've already discussed in ther

[wraith mist]

Alright im checking in with the pvpers then, thanks!

Another question, has anyone tried outlaw on alpha? how does it play and feel?

[gaunt phoenix]

Look in #midnight-outlaw pins and such

also 54,000 messages of tomfoolery in there

[proven ocean]

54k of zac dooming!

or trolling

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pets-pets-fun-funny-pets-pets-funny-gif-17204071067096567881

[copper radish]

Is this more than regular outlaw channel already 💀

[vivid vessel]

hm

thats crazy

[gaunt phoenix]

No

[vivid vessel]

im 1/6 of the messages

i gotta touch grass or

eh

no

would have more if i had alpha

[random stirrup]

just touch your roof grass top

[glass mortar]

mf

u dont even have alpha

[vivid vessel]

thats just pathetic amount of messages im ngl

[glass mortar]

what r u doing in there

[vivid vessel]

round jerk off

with the gang

[proven ocean]

zac

wjat sjpw io wathc

wtf

what show i watch?

[vivid vessel]

no idea

[mighty pivot]

nah you'd be playing instead of wasting your time on discord

[covert kestrel]

zeross has inflated numbers cause its at minimum 5 messages to 1 for the rest of us

[latent panther]

How bad is it to ignore crit and just go all in on vers as outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

not terrible

depends how low crit

[latent panther]

like 19 percent

[gaunt phoenix]

what's the rating?

idk percentages

[latent panther]

5.3k rating for crit 31.75 k rating for verse

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah you could probably gain like 3-4% dps by merging some vers into crit

[hybrid crown]

And run crit flask if you can't easily change over

[latent panther]

I see, is there like a minimum amount of crit i should have?

i feel like bte buff/ + rtb buff makes it so theres a cap

[proven ocean]

rip my old hacked acc

it was the msging warlord

[gaunt phoenix]

Not a minimum it's just how the ratio works as you DR into vers

[proven ocean]

my younger self was alot more spammy than nowadays

crazy this acc is only 2 years old tho

not bad or

212k msgs

[gaunt phoenix]

ultimately you just ask raidbots what pieces to wear

[proven ocean]

[latent panther]

i just got an adaptive entropy ring

which is just loaded with verse

so it leaves me off balance a bit

[copper radish]

You have that many messages out of 6.2million?

That’s 3% of this channel 😂

[red zinc]

why tf does the ingame shop look so good all of a sudden

they tryna make money

[copper radish]

They made enough for a lifetime off the gilded mount

[red zinc]

ts fresh as hell

[proven ocean]

wetf

why does ur shop look so good

??

[red zinc]

new since yday

[proven ocean]

what the helly

[red zinc]

probably preparation to sell furniture

so they can actually show off the 3d models in the store

[proven ocean]

@cinder relic TRUTH NUKE

blizzard is smelling money with that ui

[covert kestrel]

ez roi

[cinder relic]

Literally tho

[proven ocean]

YA

[cinder relic]

I mean tbf, the wow shop was kinda designed when they didn't spam the store

They kinda spam the store now so an actual ui for it is a good thing

[proven ocean]

ya

[red zinc]

still dont think they spam it that bad

[cinder relic]

And yeah, they gonna put so much housing shit on there

[red zinc]

honestly

[cinder relic]

They don't

[red zinc]

theres like 1 new set every 2 months

[cinder relic]

But for years it was like, once a year, heres a mount or something, now it's every month or two

[proven ocean]

but like

[covert kestrel]

its more of a nuke every so often, but they could be pumping it weekly

[cinder relic]

Not saying it's bad, but the ui was so shit for the content rollout they are doing now

[red zinc]

they might start doing the ow thing

[proven ocean]

new mounts u can consider those being spammy since DF, it was nowhere near that in BFA and before

[red zinc]

where they give specific people specific sales

with small discounts and shi

[cinder relic]

FOR YOU PAGE

[red zinc]

even got the for you page yeah

[cinder relic]

[lime lake]

[proven ocean]

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

that'll be cooked as cow cuh

[red zinc]

AI blizzard cosmetic selling algorithm

[copper radish]

makes me wanna buy the mount

[lime lake]

i do want the armor

but im not buying it

[copper radish]

i cant wait to have a house garage sale and make some money

[covert kestrel]

"buy my lightly used socks, ignore the crunchiness, 3 wowtokens no lowball i know what i have"

[zealous lantern]

is this literally broken?

been hitting a dummy for 5 min 0 procs

[red zinc]

what even is that

[zealous lantern]

engineering embelishment

[lime lake]

you may genuinely be the first person to have made it this expansion

[zealous lantern]

elemental lens is boring

[covert kestrel]

breaking new ground: the outlaw way

[zealous lantern]

im also a concealed chaos module enjoyer so

that one is actually good in pvp

[copper radish]

I tried to use it season 1 for PvP the proc rate is trash

It can also miss the mob or player 🪦

[shy pecan]

@vivid vessel why does armory/raiderio say that you have 723 crafted pieces on you? Did you get the recrafted on quality 4 or is it buggy and its actually 727?

[keen belfry]

how can i go get 700 rep for the aug rune

[copper anchor]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[copper anchor]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[copper anchor]

Hi all, is there a macro to just put ghostly strike, dispatch and coup de grace to one binding?

[shy pecan]

I guess

/cast Dispatch
/cast Ghostly Strike

[copper anchor]

/cast Ghostly Strike
/cast Dispatch
/cast Coup De Grace

is basically what i'm running but it doesn't change so it's a bit ugly

[covert kestrel]

wdym it doesnt change

[copper anchor]

the icon

[covert kestrel]

yeah well macros never have dynamic icons

[copper anchor]

I see, ty! just thought i'd be a bit more asthetic for my bars

[shy pecan]

do you even need the /cast Coup De Grace?

[covert kestrel]

just dont use macros and boom aesthetic restored

[copper anchor]

Turns out, i don't

[copper anchor]

It's cause i want to be lazy and just bind ghostly into dispatch

[covert kestrel]

if you move dispatch first then will the icon change?

assuming youre using #showtooltip

[copper anchor]

Cause i started with ghostly strike, it showed that icon. Suppose i'm not going fully sweaty so I could just have dispatch first

[mighty pivot]

if you want to show dispatch instead you can

but you cannot make it change based on whether GS is ready or not

[covert kestrel]

i think theyre wanting it to change to coup icon when its ready not gs

like how dispatch does

[mighty pivot]

does #showtooltip Dispatch stop it from changing when coup is ready?

[copper anchor]

My hero!

[mighty pivot]

[copper anchor]

I'm a bit of an idiot and i had #shadowtooltip so i just made things even worse

[red zinc]

shadowtooltip

[copper anchor]

I know now, but thoght you could all laugh at me a bit

[quaint mauve]

@wintry solar https://on.soundcloud.com/f4ipVwiqLtElwSdhHT
thoughts?

[wintry solar]

It's aight

[covert kestrel]

Weeaboo Digimon looking ass

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar
Wordle 1,574 3/6*

⬛🟩⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩⬛⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

[gaunt phoenix]

On topic

[errant fractal]

I'm going to guess that with the introduction of turbo boost the "hallowfall event crudgel" weapon in offhand finally isn't viable at all?

[errant fractal]

yoo a local talent KEKW

[wintry solar]

Wordle 1573 4/6*

🟦🟦⬛🟦⬛
🟦🟧🟦⬛⬛
⬛🟧🟧🟧⬛
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

you win this time

[scarlet drum]

Did the changes go through to fix the bugs with Fatebound and buff it?

[mighty pivot]

you are one behind because of timezone, did I do the last one in 3?

yeah I did, get owned

[wintry solar]

so did I

[mighty pivot]

wdym you did it in 4

[wintry solar]

if you squint hard enough you can imagine I did it in 3

[mighty pivot]

I squinted as much as I can to still see somewhat and I still see 4

[wintry solar]

skill issue ig

[mighty pivot]

for your eyes yes. See an eye doctor

[wintry solar]

dont have to

I just went B)

even got my contacts

[mighty pivot]

are they taking away your driver license?

[wintry solar]

yeah but thats irrelevant

[mighty pivot]

too many roadkills?

[wintry solar]

that and

frankly

I hate when im texting and driving and a ditch comes out of nowhere

[mighty pivot]

how blind are you after today's eye check?

I'm like gigablind without my glasses

[frail veldt]

The ditches fault ofc

[frail veldt]

How blind is giga blind

[lime lake]

imagine blind

[frail veldt]

Like what's your prescription

[wintry solar]

does it not see me on my phone?

[lime lake]

then add to it

[frail veldt]

Well the ditch was texting too so it didn't see you coming

[mighty pivot]

I'm at -4.5 I think? I can see like 15-20cm before it starts getting blurry

[frail veldt]

Sheeeeeesh

What the fuck

[wintry solar]

-2.50 on both my eyes

[tired rune]

jesus

blind fucks

[wintry solar]

nah its fine because, like ricky bobby, I feel the road.

[tired rune]

too much staring at the damage meter

[mighty pivot]

don't you have a huge truck to simply ignore the ditches popo? fake american

a monster truck like the ones you love

[wintry solar]

I do but I was getting an ice cream

they dont fit in the drive through, I already tried.

[mighty pivot]

I used to find monster trucks cool (when I was 6)

[wintry solar]

I could neverr own a monster truck

[mighty pivot]

why not

[wintry solar]

too much maintenance

[mighty pivot]

I thought it was because of what people would think about your pp

[wintry solar]

oh no

idc about that

[mighty pivot]

but then again you live in a state where people will find it cool

the monster truck, not a smol pp

[wintry solar]

wrong one

wait there are 2 mudbug madnesses

now thats crazy

[mighty pivot]

why am I looking at seafood

[wintry solar]

theres a local mud riding event called mudbug madness

but people also call crawfish mudbugs

[keen belfry]

just had the worst soulk hutner kill

sorry

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[covert kestrel]

nice

[gaunt phoenix]

bring the average down

[mighty pivot]

sounds like a us thing

[wintry solar]

I was wrong

https://louisiana-mudfest.com/

[keen belfry]

like just bad play solo

i played bad

[wintry solar]

aint no way

SURELY other countries have them

[red zinc]

we have them but we dont call them mudbugs

[mighty pivot]

they have them but they don't call them that

[red zinc]

China got massive ass catfish in the yangtze afaik

[wintry solar]

I personally call them crawfish

[red zinc]

oh craw

Oops

they got those too

[mighty pivot]

people pay 60-80 bucks to watch muddy racing between randos?

[wintry solar]

nah a lot of people know each other

but yeah

[mighty pivot]

by randos I mean nonpros

[wintry solar]

theres also a lot of booze and music

[mighty pivot]

country music?

it even has a saloon

[wintry solar]

country, zydeco , southern rock, jazz, all sorts

[mighty pivot]

I had to google zydeco

[wintry solar]

its silly music ngl

[frail veldt]

Good work wang

[mighty pivot]

ty popo I learnt more about louisiana in a few days than I did all the years before (no idea if that will ever be useful)

[wintry solar]

fun facts are very fun

usless facts are fun

I mean

[covert kestrel]

CRAWDAD BOUL

[mighty pivot]

I like trivia games so you never know if something will come up (obviously not louisiana mudfest)

[wintry solar]

did you read the rules?

its great

[mighty pivot]

although I try to avoid games which have questions about the us

[wintry solar]

wow

okay

[mighty pivot]

that they are not liable for people dying?

[wintry solar]

yeah

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-iv-dolph-lundgren-captain-ivan-drago-if-he-dies-he-dies-dies-gif-4956349

them

[wintry solar]

the drivers are liable

it iz what it iz

[keen belfry]

dude..

[mighty pivot]

man I don't care nor is there any way for me to know random obscure shit about american states/sports etc. Whenever I see a baseball/hockey/handegg question I'm like "uuuuuh"

[wintry solar]

I was gonna say that I look for questions about other countries to guilt trip you

then you mentioned people dying

and I lost my train of thought

[torpid fiber]

what's the capital of Australia

[frail veldt]

Not Sydney

[wintry solar]

isnt it like

Carbonara?

[torpid fiber]

I asked popo not u

[wintry solar]

Cranberry

[mighty pivot]

spaghetti carbonara yes

[wintry solar]

idr how to spell it

[torpid fiber]

Close enough

[wintry solar]

what is it

[torpid fiber]

Canberra

Pronounced close to canbruh

[wintry solar]

I was like 75% there

[torpid fiber]

Nice city ngl (I'm biased)

[mighty pivot]

can bruh

I did not know it was pronounced like that

[wintry solar]

I spilled my can of bruh

[covert kestrel]

Adelaide tho

[torpid fiber]

Adelaide is easy to pronounce

[torpid fiber]

Dw it's not the most intuitive

[covert kestrel]

Nah just cool city

[mighty pivot]

I don't know, at least when it comes to accents I find strayan way more sensible than several other english speaking region accents

if you ignore works/terms used exclusively there, it's much clearer

[covert kestrel]

South African is the hardest for me

[lone spear]

as an australian

most people speak normal here

the stereotypical accent is like if you talked to someone from the deep south of NA

[wintry solar]

I don't have an accent. Everyone else does.

But not me.

[latent panther]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dawn talon]

nah it's still pretty instantly recognisable

[torpid fiber]

This is how I feel and then every time I go into a vc with yanks they tell me I have a really clear accent lmao

[frail veldt]

Yeah but y'all do have some pretty specific slang for stuff

[lone spear]

true true

[livid pewter]

bruh i literally feel depressive while leveling outlaw in remix … its kinda autoattacks only till max lvl 🤣

[mellow dagger]

is the 100% of haste as attack speed talent busted in legion because of the crazy haste amounts you get?>

[long barn]

This is the end of WoW… all of you playing legion remix… haha. Retail still has bugs all over. Fucking blizzard. Idiots.

[gaunt phoenix]

[lime lake]

This is the end of WoW… all of you playing legion remix… haha. Retail still has bugs all over. Fucking blizzard. Idiots.

[placid gorge]

new pasta?

[wintry solar]

New pasta dropped!

This is the end of WoW… all of you playing legion remix… haha. Retail still has bugs all over. Fucking blizzard. Idiots.

[cobalt mist]

This is the end of WoW… all of you playing legion remix… haha. Retail still has bugs all over. Fucking blizzard. Idiots.

[cinder haven]

pasta needs to be longer

[torpid fiber]

I met midnight addons changes at a petting zoo. He was talking with one of the baby goats and struggling to hold back tears. I asked him, "are you doing okay, friend?" He shook his head solemnly. "Everyone forgets that goats are herd animals. We're not meant to be alone."

[lime lake]

I met midnight addons changes at a petting zoo. He was talking with one of the baby goats and struggling to hold back tears. I asked him, "are you doing okay, friend?" He shook his head solemnly. "Everyone forgets that goats are herd animals. We're not meant to be alone."

[torpid fiber]

for anyone who hasn't seen the original tweet

maybe the best use of ai of all time

[lime lake]

me refusing to ever click on a discord link

[torpid fiber]

understandable

[lime lake]

even if i kinda trust it

[zealous lantern]

why is lockpicking busted how does that even happen

[cyan imp]

Hello friends, i was wondering if anyone here has played outlaw in midnight beta. Is it good ?

[zealous lantern]

outlaw is horrible dont play it

poopy doodoo spec for poopyheads

[forest glade]

But I need to fulfil my worgen🏴‍☠️ rp dream

[zealous lantern]

we need to sandbag outlaw

[cyan imp]

Yes i know, which is why im asking if its okay in beta because i might just switch over to assassination if i have nothing to look forward to 😞

[forest glade]

Assassination has no pirate life so don’t do it

[zealous lantern]

outlaw is not some spec you play if you care about being #1 dps i think

ass might be more for you

[cyan imp]

Im fine with medium damage but outlaw is so bad rn

[cyan imp]

True lol

so i suppose nobody has tried outlaw in beta yet hmmm

[zealous lantern]

how is outlaw bad

[forest glade]

Yeah I reckon it’s pretty fun. Turn off combat numbers on screen and uninstall dps addons. Let the good times.. roll…

[jagged plover]

if you mean alpha check the pins in #midnight-outlaw

[cyan imp]

🤔 well i’d prefer to feel like im doing something (usually ok damage) and also would like to not have to sinister strike 100 times before i gef a pistol shot that so happens to do negative damage

[cyan imp]

Thanks !!!

[wintry solar]

I clicked

It's just boobs

So many boobs

I can't believe he posted that here tbi

[devout garden]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[pulsar shale]

In 3 months all of those WA will be cleared FINAL a vanilla clean and smooth experience on WOW

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-4540374823853696704

[vivid vessel]

LFR Andy go back to classic maybe

Bud is the type of person that will be the first to use the one button rotation

[proven ocean]

LFR Andy go back to classic maybe

Bud is the type of person that will be the first to use the one button rotation

[proven ocean]

He’s a one button rotation theorycrafter

@pulsar shale thoughts?

[waxen scarab]

are we still unplayable at dimensius?

[proven ocean]

Playable but u will get benched midway

Cuz of how bad it is

When will u learn sub…

[vivid vessel]

well nothing changed cuh

[proven ocean]

Noob

[wintry solar]

If nothing changed then YOU are the problem

Your gym is gathering dust

Your gains? Unforeseeable.

[quaint mauve]

fireball

fireball

fireball

fire blast

lwk might just play fire mage next season

it’s gonna be op

[grim spear]

They found a way to get the Mage Tower cat skin in just one minute.

[vale warren]

Deep leffen my beloved

[torpid fiber]

It's my favourite twitter account of all time

I go back and reread it every few months and cry laughing every time

[covert kestrel]

MELEE MENTIONED

https://tenor.com/view/fox-terminalmontage-supersmashbros-gif-18466170

[zealous horizon]

anybody knows the area of Stone Cursed Idol? is that a cone or around us?

and range would be perfect

[lone spear]

in wow "nearby" is usually 8yds, and unless specified its a circle around you

i for sure know its a circle

i dont know if it is 8yds

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[wintry solar]

Hello

[copper radish]

Hi pirates

[hybrid crown]

I feel so gross I switched to assassination for remix

The procs just proc better

[timid idol]

💀

[hasty warren]

!triks

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[hasty warren]

in HO Trickter build, does Coup have higher prio to Ambush during subt windows ?

[mighty pivot]

you only bte in subt

[hasty warren]

even at low cp and forced to build with SS/Amb ?

[mighty pivot]

you finish at 5+ as HO in subt #1276307559061524652 message for details

with HO if you are in subt you only really ambush or PS to build. You never use a normal SS (you can use an SS that has be replaced by ambush through audacity)

[copper radish]

If only MG popped off like that on live 😂

[vivid vessel]

@fathom bramble was it .03 or .04

idk if i need to delete my character or not

[gaunt phoenix]

its .05

[bronze wadi]

assuming youre just completely awful at playing trickster is fatebound still so far behimd in m+ its still not even worth playing?

[gaunt phoenix]

No it's fine

[bronze wadi]

word

[gaunt phoenix]

You lose flexibility with vanish which is annoying

[bronze wadi]

im over having to send coup on targets that arent fazed and not getting the buff from it

[gaunt phoenix]

cause you must vanish into ghostly strike

Both of these will change next expansion at least

[bronze wadi]

yeah its 100% just a skill issue im just kinda over it if its gonna get chanegd anyways

im assuming you still take KS though right?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[bronze wadi]

word

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean thoughts bro

[proven ocean]

outlaw oP!!!

no bfufs needed!!

[covert kestrel]

Is this single targer

[livid pewter]

the better question is, is there any recommended guide for outlaw legion remix m+?

icy veins and wowhead have kinda opinions about that haha

[upper hawk]

legion remix guide

lul

like asking for a guide to staring at paint

[livid pewter]

idk i just wanna try to look op and grind all this tmog shid but dont wanna read through the artefact shid

[vivid vessel]

ye

[west ridge]

@vivid vessel on 2nd boss i assume right?

[vivid vessel]

ye

[west ridge]

dam

man

how is fury doing double the single target

and also being better in aoe

wtf is oging on here

[analog fog]

Cuz outlaw trash