outlaw

[late swallow]

vial op???

[ripe ibex]

that is the most fried thing i’ve ever seen

[proven ocean]

💀

well thats why its hard to know which classes are tanky or not without playing the content itself

[frail veldt]

Yeah I just dont know if you can really say assa is the least tanky spec in the game lol

[proven ocean]

heres big momma btw

[ripe ibex]

yeye i’m agreeing with you im saying it’s completely fried they just posted an overall damage taken ss and used that to draw a conclusion

[frail veldt]

that seems a little fried

[proven ocean]

feint on cd death

[frail veldt]

when things like shadow priest exist

or boomy

[proven ocean]

wait

thats even with feint

well

its just a +20 key thing

[frail veldt]

yeah high keys are hard

if you could live them

they wouldnt be hard

[proven ocean]

oh

its not a key thing

[frail veldt]

thats usually what stops people from pushing higher haha

[proven ocean]

it was a pug healjer

[frail veldt]

Like there has to be a wall

[glass mortar]

brother u received no healing for like 5s

[proven ocean]

heres a death from nailed

[glass mortar]

ah yea pug healer

[frail veldt]

and if your spec can push some of the highest keys in a season

[proven ocean]

i never saw anyone die from this

[frail veldt]

I really dont see your defensives as an issue

[proven ocean]

like

its impossible

[frail veldt]

yeah nailed fucks rogue

[proven ocean]

it was just arogue thing

to die to it

[frail veldt]

we def agree single target dots fuck up rogue hard

[proven ocean]

farover the warr

or zac

would've lived that with 50% hp left

[frail veldt]

yeah as long as outlaw has vanish it cant die to nail gun which is nice

[proven ocean]

crazy how none of these logs i just linked

have any shaman deaths

💀

[frail veldt]

well hes your healer right

healers top healed is always themself

[ripe ibex]

shaman is invincible in keys idc what anyone says

[glass mortar]

sure show me the shaman taking those same mechanics and not receiving any healing for 5s and living

id love to see the shamans hp log to see what it is keeping them alive

[frail veldt]

Yeah like I can see that your shaman isnt dying but what isnt well explained at this point is why

[proven ocean]

riptide and healing rain is enough

course of 30 sec

[frail veldt]

yeah so your healer just needs to heal you?

[proven ocean]

just 4 surges

rest is passive healing

[glass mortar]

well riptide is their biggest heal rn right

[glass mortar]

ok so the answer to how they are living is they are receiving healing while u did not

[proven ocean]

no defensive up only absorb totem

[glass mortar]

thats fair

[proven ocean]

which is insane too but ye

[glass mortar]

if u need healing to live a mechanic, rogue is pretty shot

ur self healing is quite bad

[frail veldt]

bro id just be mad at your healer zeross

[glass mortar]

ur dr is quite good

[proven ocean]

thats the most dmg taken heavy thing

in the entire key

[frail veldt]

your healer is watching you die

[proven ocean]

4 surges 30 sec

[frail veldt]

with a 40% dr up

thats a healer issue

[cinder relic]

I feel like shaman defensives just line up better in dungeons because downtime exists

[frail veldt]

yeah I guess it depends on the fight

[glass mortar]

well feints low cd value gets reduced and longer cd walls value gets increased in dungeons in general due to that yea

the low cd on feint is more op on raidfights with aoe imo

its still good tho

[frail veldt]

swampface damage feels very frequent seems like theyd get behind

[random stirrup]

shaman also kind of good at the opposite thing as rogue, i never felt squishy into high rot damage since you just perma top self with healing

big damage burst scary though

[proven ocean]

idk if u played s1

[glass mortar]

specs with trickle healing and passive stuff like that tend to be better into dots and rot yea

[proven ocean]

shamans never died at all

[glass mortar]

rot and dots have always been rogues weakness

[proven ocean]

like

well

they had priest

i guess thats cheating

[glass mortar]

s1 had aug also

its kinda hard to tell how tanky anyone in a dungeon group is when aug is meta

[random stirrup]

well you needed sac on ara 2nd, the miniboss before rash in db

[proven ocean]

well ye

that one is just giga intensive dmg

[frail veldt]

could just be that people expect sham to be taking it so theyre looking to give them externals

no one wants to give a rogue externals

[strong flicker]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jNeMRwuJDMoOfnp1LB/giphy.gif

[late swallow]

HOLY

[covert kestrel]

somnius got the gooner alert

[vivid vessel]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[strong halo]

Kind of crazy how over night prism became top top trinket for most classes / spec

and they said no more tuning

[vivid vessel]

!def

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[vivid vessel]

@mighty pivot fill out dimensius noob

how am i supposed to kill it

[late swallow]

[keen belfry]

evilshotty read challenge level impossible

[lime lake]

[strong halo]

I'm not using blood mallet though, im just simming my characters with Prism

[quaint mauve]

prism is another button so it can’t be good

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel btw zac

I think outlaw will stay dogshit as long as pc stays the way it is

Its far too op

It inflates outlaw’s numbers making it look fine

When its dogshit when pc isn’t useful

[glass mortar]

yea we hate pc in here

or at least where it is in the tree

😠

[mighty pivot]

I need to do saladbar first but I was too busy getting to 20 renown

[vivid vessel]

L

just go dimensuis first please

[proven ocean]

Even if its moved outlaw wont be balanced correctly from the way i think

[cinder relic]

It's a raid trinket on a final tier, they tend to be more OP than average

[proven ocean]

Atleast thats how i see it

I could be wrong but

[cinder relic]

Especially when last tiers raid trinkets were pretty shit

[proven ocean]

Pc seems to be fucking up outlaw’s tuning

For where its at

Not in the tree

But

It does too much dmg

[mighty pivot]

there are only 2 public dimmy kills with rogues, but I'll see what I can do. Maybe I can find some with only wipes

[strong halo]

Just realized does this mean current sims arent reliable as the bug was added to SimC but the trinket was fixed?

Idk wht the timing of SimC update was vs the bug fix yesterday

[gaunt phoenix]

it is fixed in simc if you sim Latest mode

but bloodmallet does not update every day

so it be old

[ocean python]

is this still true guys?

was looking to try outlaw

[indigo token]

this guy is a fucking moron

he doesnt understand how crackshot windows work

[glass mortar]

i mean yes its true its not as hard as they make it out to be tho

[ocean python]

i see

[keen belfry]

?????????? lfr players are a different type of human LMAO

[glass mortar]

this person is talking about how to not reset mobs i believe

[muted crest]

fokin hate crackshot gime back old outlaw gameplay

[glass mortar]

not how to properly play a crackshot window

[gaunt phoenix]

they are talking about vanish resets

[indigo token]

wtf

[ocean python]

yeaa

[proven ocean]

@indigo token prism simming correctly or whats going on

What

&solo

@gaunt phoenix

[indigo token]

???

[proven ocean]

Fucking iphone

[indigo token]

why you asking me

[glass mortar]

on most open world stuff u dont even finish ur first crackshot window tho

[proven ocean]

I meant solo..

[glass mortar]

its more annoying on elites

[indigo token]

:unxdd: not cool bro

[keen belfry]

i like flex trinkets so if prism is as good as my warpclaw ill use it

[proven ocean]

[gaunt phoenix]

ya it is

[ocean python]

yea i guess thats kinda a non issue

since ur fine in endgame content m+ raids ..

[glass mortar]

in delves brann largely keeps u in combat, in m+ and raid obviously it doesnt matter unless somehow ur solo tanking mobs

and in the open world 95% of regular mobs die in ur opener crackshot since we do pretty high sustain damage

it definitly is an annoyance id like to see fixed regardless tho

[proven ocean]

-100 hp

-100 hp

-100hp

[keen belfry]

gg

no on use i guess

gg

gg

[dawn talon]

bro awang

[strong halo]

i wish

[dawn talon]

my hardmode loot on my mage

was so ass

[keen belfry]

i havent done hardmode once this tier

am i a troll

[strong halo]

are they all same ilvl?

[stiff vector]

Been testing prism in keys past few days with 723 idol and kinda blasts tbh

[dawn talon]

free me bro

[keen belfry]

and also somehow my mage is in the same ilvl as my rogue

[glass mortar]

id do hardmode but i aint puggin it and i got no friends to do it so

no hardmode for me

looks cringe anyway

[dawn talon]

it's pretty fun

was a good way to kill ~1hr with some guildies

[stiff vector]

Awang is it time I finally go to the dark side and learn mage for keys

[keen belfry]

maybe ill just try one

[dawn talon]

bro

[keen belfry]

i very much enjoy mage in keys

[dawn talon]

it's rly fun

[random stirrup]

arcane is fun

[dawn talon]

rotationally easier than outlaw but u have to think about how you'll livve

instead of just eating everything

[keen belfry]

tehre are very annoying key levels where you cant send surge every pack and you kind ajust int your dps for a pack

[copper radish]

Those are weird looking outlaws

Bet they do big damage tho

[dawn talon]

ye

key too low

is rly annoying

[slate forge]

Must be zeross with the lack of feint @ cat giff my internet go boom

Still scummy

[dawn talon]

like oh i just killed the entire pack before my soul

and now im pressing my last 2 gcds of soul on the next pack before my tank has any aggro on it

lol

[keen belfry]

can barely send mini burn in pack so then you get to next pack with no cds and cds come up with 50% remaining hp on mobs gg

[dawn talon]

u pressing surge on 4 mobs with 60M hp?

[keen belfry]

yeas

[strong halo]

How could this happen to me

[dawn talon]

dude it's actually kinda annoying

trying to optimise on arcane tho

bc nobody posts anything useful

u just have to go lurk in forgyy's server and pray the 5 people who do damage are online

[slate forge]

Mage disc is pretty useless

[proven ocean]

@fluid iron

That u?

[dawn talon]

completely useless

[stiff vector]

Leave it to the rogue disc to cook for mage

[dawn talon]

the feral channel is better than the mage discord

[stiff vector]

We have the real giga brain TCers

[dawn talon]

and they just post cats in #feral

[slate forge]

Better luck getting a qualified answer in here for arcane than there 100p

[hybrid crown]

Yeah outlaw we only sometimes post cat pics

[stiff vector]

We’re cooking outlaw APL 24/7, other class disc are microwaved

[magic shuttle]

is the rumor about fb coins being bugged for outlaw true?

[glass mortar]

we definitly found bugged logs of it last night

dont think anyone has determined what caused the bug or anything around it tho

it was just randomly on some pulls

[gaunt phoenix]

seems rare

[marble bloom]

Small question about RtB in the guide. Simplified rotation says roll at 0 buffs and at 0-2 buffs with loaded dice, but advanced section mentions rolling at 1 as well without loaded dice. Which one should I go with or am I misunderstanding something?

[remote pecan]

we have to in order to keep up with other classes though

[gaunt phoenix]

The advanced is right

[marble bloom]

Great, thanks!

[glass mortar]

the simple is 95% of the way there and the advanced is 100% but more annoying

probably closer then 95% of the way tbh

usually its like 98%

[slate forge]

You roll when the vibe isn’t there

[marble bloom]

Yeah I'm not quite at the level of 1FTH and tracking unseen blade yet.

[velvet zephyr]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[indigo token]

its awful

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-358126946326466778

[bronze wadi]

With trickster in aoe does BF always take priority for building combo points or do you still want to press SS to build coup procs

Cause there's times it almost feels like Im hitting blade flurry too often and just never getting coup

[gaunt phoenix]

you prio ss when ub is guaranteed

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix this you?

[gaunt phoenix]

but in stealth you can deft it's fine

ya

[vivid vessel]

Nice

[gaunt phoenix]

also if you dont have energy to ss

then deft ofc

[bronze wadi]

Worddd

[river maple]

whats the fastest valor stone farm

[spare dome]

raid

[coral onyx]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[vivid vessel]

who was the guy that had that oink tag

please show yourself

[sudden fulcrum]

[bronze wadi]

Zac I just saw your tag

[normal forge]

where are the class tunnings????????

aka outlaw buffs

[drowsy ridge]

As visible as our DPS

[worldly shale]

[copper radish]

What DPS

[daring oxide]

tomorrow

50/50

[copper radish]

We aren’t getting tuned until midnight we can keep waiting

[daring oxide]

please go into the assa channel and remain there

traitor

[copper radish]

Bro it’s blizzard lmao. They suck just facts sorry

[daring oxide]

only positivity allowed in here

[copper radish]

Sorry I’m a doomer cause they knocked my pvp coin 33%

[granite merlin]

So if it feels like I am getting damn near no BTE resets in subterfuge windows would would be the reason?

[stable furnace]

Lol nice to read outlaw chat for a change

[gaunt phoenix]

rng

[stable furnace]

Hidden tech increases ace chance by 100%

[granite merlin]

Ok I have to look at how to proc that

[proven ocean]

nerf outlaw

buff assa

delete sub

idk

ok

i just decided to type something cooked after dinner

brb tv show

[safe pasture]

how u get osrs tag doe

[quiet root]

what the helly

[lone spear]

zac is now a pig

after dming me at 4am

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[proven ocean]

man

i wish if eating cats was okay

[worldly shale]

stop

[lone spear]

??????

[proven ocean]

i kinda want to taste one or

like

idk

maybe it tastes as good as they look

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

[stable furnace]

More like delete outlaw buff sub nerf assa

[proven ocean]

based

[worldly shale]

fuck sub

i hate that im forced

to play that

[quiet root]

you can probably try it somewhere in asia

[worldly shale]

oh look

let me wait

oooohaaa

wait wait

hoooooaaaa

wait wait

[stable furnace]

You are not forced to anything.

[worldly shale]

AAAAAA

[stable furnace]

Just reroll

[vivid vessel]

thanks cuh

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/dice-ginny-di-dnd-dice-roll-dice-d6-gif-22051323

[proven ocean]

sup pig

[vivid vessel]

sup pig

[normal forge]

increase cto chance a little bit, sometimes i feel like no cto happens whatsoever, like in ages

make it like, 20% instead of 15%

[reef forge]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[frail veldt]

20% wouldnt actually fix how bad it feels when it doesnt proc though

I think outlaw as a whole has too many non normalized procs

and when the stars align(in a bad way) the spec feels awful

[daring oxide]

just make cto 50%

[frail veldt]

if you dont proc Fatal flourish AND dont proc SS AND dont proc CtO all at once for like 10 seconds it feels like youre playing classic wow

[frail veldt]

fatal flourish is 50%

[daring oxide]

50% is better than 15%

[frail veldt]

doesnt fix the issue though lol

how many times do you run dry on energy cuz FF isnt proccing

[daring oxide]

well

[frail veldt]

also 50% cto is probalby like way too absurd cuz the buff lasts so long

just normalize the procs man

its 2025

we have the technology

[daring oxide]

btw

u know nightfall

do i actualyl have to do it

or can i afk it

[rapid wave]

can someone tell me if killing spree cancelation is a normal thing on outlaws ?

[frail veldt]

it is

you mean like cancelling early for dps gain?

[gaunt phoenix]

sort of. you don't have to do it, but it tends to feel worth it

[rapid wave]

but why, possible to explain ?

[frail veldt]

its pretty neutral

[rapid wave]

just to cast "More important skills before" ?

[frail veldt]

KS just doesnt do as much as damage as it is worth to be pressing other buttons

especially when y ou are capped on cps

but its very neutral so you can full channel if you want

[elder phoenix]

wait

what did i miss

[rapid wave]

ok last question , does this still work with KIR

[elder phoenix]

did outlaw get nerfed

LOL

[rapid wave]

or theere is a specific haste requirement?

[frail veldt]

19% is correct for kir

[elder phoenix]

19.5 I think

someone said

[frail veldt]

41% vers

[gaunt phoenix]

the KIR build really values the gcd, cooldown reduction, CTO procs etc. when killing spree caps you on combo points, and you are capped on energy, at that point it is just raw damage

[frail veldt]

good shit

peak stats

[frail veldt]

19.05%

haha

[rapid wave]

19.05 then ?

[frail veldt]

but it very much depends on what gear you have and what youre trading for that haste

so I would more focus on the reuslts of your sims

[elder phoenix]

yeah 19.05 my bad

[frail veldt]

and "aim" for around 19%

sometimes if you put on better gear that has more vers but puts you at 19.5% it may outsim a different piece of gear that might get you to 19.05 but gives you mastery instead

so you should always sim your options

[rapid wave]

cant be more screwed, i change my vers cloak gem to haste

else im 18.95

[frail veldt]

thats okay

18.95 is better

than 22%

[gaunt phoenix]

you dont need LITERALLY 19.05%

[frail veldt]

most likely*

[gaunt phoenix]

that's just the technical cap

[random stirrup]

i will feel that 0.02s slower gcd

sim boy

[frail veldt]

haste still has some marginal value in energy gain and hasted trinket procs etc

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[glass mortar]

make it have 100% chance for the first proccer after a stealth

bring us back

[zinc briar]

1st pull of gambit: 12M dps with my super outlaw, lock 30 and dk 30

[glass mortar]

i mean

if u got gooder rng u could do like 16m

maybe even 18m

but yea thats outlaw

[zinc briar]

yes sometimes

but they kicked me to do with another

it was a 15 resil

i do 0 aoe and 0 prio

and its normal, i would kick the rogue also xD

[glass mortar]

i mean outlaw doesnt do zero aoe but yea 0 prio

[zinc briar]

we are a bullshit

[glass mortar]

if they kicked u for that why did they invite outlaw in the first place

are people still learning for the first time outlaw is a capped non burst spec

[zinc briar]

they thought i was assa

[glass mortar]

ah well

their fault then unless u queued up as sin

[zinc briar]

or they dont know the shiit outlaw is

[indigo token]

being an outlaw rogue is like playing little brother mode in a nintendo game

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel HEBLO

ZAC

!

[zinc briar]

i do 30M there with my 704 ilvl hunter

[proven ocean]

I FEEL

[proven ocean]

LIKE

[vivid vessel]

hi

[proven ocean]

ZAC TODAY!!!!!!!!!

HELO ZAC

[vivid vessel]

skill issue

[indigo token]

OUTLAW!!!!!!!

[proven ocean]

I HAD

A

PESTO SADNWICH

!

[glass mortar]

ok but u are literally never gunna do 30m dps on those pulls unless u want outlaw to not be outlaw anymore

we arent a burst spec

[vivid vessel]

nie !

[proven ocean]

t !

[vapid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413241897463582750/image.png?ex=68bb3795&is=68b9e615&hm=60f1f03666da187cff16e6e67d695397c3ad0a8f34228c4de293e2813554b127&

[proven ocean]

y

[indigo token]

this has to be a sticker

[vapid sundial]

@sacred rune can you make it happen

[stiff vector]

feelsoutlawman

[desert tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif?ex=68bb37f0&is=68b9e670&hm=31150f583d52ba04589f88281aa39b5c90b78ba7a33bd360a0fe8976a5e8fa17&

[vivid vessel]

made it a gif

you can save it instead

way bette

[vapid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[vivid vessel]

r

[gaunt phoenix]

this is so funny idc

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[gaunt phoenix]

OUTLAW!!!!!!!!

[normal forge]

Uahuahuahahu so good

[proven ocean]

im thinking

i wanna be an egg today

or

idk

[vivid vessel]

OUTLAW!!!!!!!!

[proven ocean]

no

a lamp

[vivid vessel]

ye that sounds good ross

[glass mortar]

an... egg?

i dont think you know how we use that term over here now a day

[proven ocean]

so i can light things up

[normal forge]

add this to the guide, i dont know

[glass mortar]

[mighty pivot]

it is ok to be an egg take your time

[proven ocean]

but

what about

[glass mortar]

we all support you on ur path to self discovery ross

[vivid vessel]

[proven ocean]

ty

but

[vapid sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/yumurta-gif-4878167577462255677

[proven ocean]

wait

wtf

thats 2 eggs

i wanna be a 2 egg

zac

that you?

[vapid sundial]

I got two eggs for you

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1365179742751555635.webp?size=16&animated=true

[vapid sundial]

wait this isnt OT

fuck

[indigo token]

wrong gif

[vapid sundial]

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[vapid sundial]

Okay i gotta check something

[gaunt phoenix]

it's the other dude leaving

before you were even kicked

[indigo token]

its so funny

cheese touch ass spec

[vapid sundial]

bro is kicking people

from 12s and 13s

[desert tendon]

Me when zac join my party

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif?ex=68bb37f0&is=68b9e670&hm=31150f583d52ba04589f88281aa39b5c90b78ba7a33bd360a0fe8976a5e8fa17&

[zinc briar]

lets queue as assa and then change when start

so they inv me

or perma queue 🙂

[vapid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[mighty pivot]

@vivid vessel be a good boy and go and press cloak on the abilities I'm missing (and upload the logs after). almost everything is there now tho you can kill it now, champ!

[proven ocean]

@zac be a good boy and go and press cloak on the abilities I'm missing (and upload the logs after). almost everything is there now tho you can kill it now, champ!

[vivid vessel]

you can cloak everything or wdym

like everything that adoes damage on dimmy

you can cloak

[violet ferry]

OUTLAW!!!!!!!!

[mighty pivot]

ye I only found one that you cannot. But I still need to confirm a few once we have more than like 10 public reports

[vapid sundial]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[violet ferry]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[quaint mauve]

can you avoid being sent to the sky by that one circle if u cloak?

[vivid vessel]

no

[mighty pivot]

you cannot remove that

[vivid vessel]

you cant cloak everything !

[quaint mauve]

grrr

[vivid vessel]

but everything that is a damage thing

you can cloak

[mighty pivot]

you can probably still immune the damage of that though

but it does like 1 mil or so

so nothing

[quaint mauve]

i thought it’d be like the cage on streets boss 1

im assuming you’d be able to pre cloak if somehow yk it’s gonna be on u

or whatever

[worldly shale]

NEW COPYPASTA UNLOCKED

[indigo token]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[desert tendon]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[worldly shale]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[frail veldt]

the em dash telltale

[copper radish]

I think chat gpt wrote lmao

[frail veldt]

yep

[copper radish]

Soon we gonna replace these devs with AI that listens to us outlaws

[vapid sundial]

Yes

I could edit it out but why would I do that

[quaint mauve]

make the robot edit them out

[copper radish]

Just tell chat gpt next time to not write it like AI 😂

[vapid sundial]

I find it funnier this way

Ai was made to shit post

[opal raven]

may i ask why so many players use the sigil in dungeons ? its bad in aoe situations no ? people only got this to equip this early in the season ?

[frail veldt]

AI can never capture the true artistic fervor of a random chatter crashing out

doesnt even come close

[quaint mauve]

bc it’s sooooooo goood 🤤

[vapid sundial]

Okay tbf

Ryu set the bar too high

No one will ever each that level again

[frail veldt]

honestly

one in a million

[shy pecan]

OUTLAW!!!!!

[strong halo]

ngl prism goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[delicate seal]

b/c its good wdym

its really solid st and even in aoe its still pretty solid

[whole cloak]

!prepull

[normal forge]

its a good trinket and no one wants it

[whole cloak]

is it !pull or prepull

:C

[normal forge]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[cold jewel]

#FreeRyu

[vapid sundial]

lol

He lived longer than he should have here

He should have been condemned from the server like a month prior

[cold jewel]

Ryu has lived more than any of us ever will

[vapid sundial]

I wonder how many alts he has here

I know there's no way he doesn't have one

[cold jewel]

nah he just mods in zacs stream now

[copper radish]

Sigil is 🐐’d

[covert kestrel]

Lashga, the Ryu of #subtlety has made at least 3 alts since his banning lmao

[safe pasture]

it just sims giga high

like no matter what sim you run its gona rec it

[copper radish]

And it’s passive 🔥

[random stirrup]

ah did they get rogueone

[vapid sundial]

Crazy

[random stirrup]

guy could be at least a little bit subtle if he really wants access here

though ig if he had a brain at all he wouldn't be banned in the first place

[willow portal]

Who is ryu

[proven ocean]

a legend who cooked 50% haste builds

that did 50% less dmg

[willow portal]

So balanced?

[vapid sundial]

You had to be there

All you need to know is Ryu had a dream.

[proven ocean]

he's the most cooked player

in all of wow

like

actual cooked

[vapid sundial]

Wasn't he not ambush in stealth

As ho

[safe pasture]

is the consensous just go warp + sigil in any dung that doesnt have giga pulls like flood? or are we liking sigil warp everywhere over idol

cant make up my mind

[copper radish]

RIP Ryu the haste king

[covert kestrel]

yeah they did, his new one is nabucadnezzer

[copper radish]

I wonder if we could cook a non crackshot GSW build that would be just as good 🤔

[wintry solar]

No

Midnight maybe

[twilit rivet]

is this why i pump so hard as outlaw

?

why do i have 4 weapons.

[worldly shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif

[copper radish]

It’s gonna be midnights new feature and we gonna sprout two more arms for four weps

[hasty warren]

gsw my beloved

[twilit rivet]

blade flurry updated

[random stirrup]

LMFAO no way bro linked his own sim

and said this guy

🥸

[vivid vessel]

wait did he make another one after rogueone

[copper radish]

Sounds like it. Get em Zac

[old gull]

Hey that was me

[safe pasture]

lol what did he get banned for

[wintry solar]

Equating old KS to SA

Weird stuff like that

[stuck sparrow]

Ryukage the guy to cook up builds to actively lose you dps

truly an innovator

[safe pasture]

weird makes sense tho if he got banend from sub cord that place is cooked D:

[wintry solar]

Ryu had a vision for sure

Bro wanted OUT of the builds we had

I wonder what he thinks of new ks

[old gull]

I hope he’s a mastery / echoing reprimand enjoyer somewhere

[timid portal]

@keen belfry do u have ur norsken setup somewhere?

[covert kestrel]

yeah i have a sixth sense for sniffing him out

[copper radish]

Prob 75% haste now so it’s same duration as the old one

[covert kestrel]

aka like ryldd said, he just linked his own sim

[vivid vessel]

wait how do you know its nabu guy

he has no messages

[covert kestrel]

I can see them

[cold jewel]

it wasn't a dream it was a VISION

way ahead of his time

[buoyant cosmos]

Call him Nostradamus the way he sees the future

[glass mortar]

U guys really see someone so paranoid they don't believe sims and need to cook a "new build" that's just regular build but u take a talent that's good and replace it with a bad one

And call it visionary

[outer brook]

I fucking love outlaw so much. Best class in wow imo

[glass mortar]

[cold jewel]

[glass mortar]

Hey guys I'm going to try 42.0% mastery build that replaces crackshot with riposte

New tech!!!!!!!!!1!1!11!!

[wind cosmos]

I have 2 sets of optimal gear for assa and outlaw. Curious which dungeon outlaw has a better damage profile than assa. I play 12+ keys, trying to push for high keys

[cold jewel]

the main gooch himself

report back weran

btw i hit 100 delves last week

B)

[buoyant cosmos]

Honestly getting invites as law kinda sucks

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/nemo-its-like-hes-trying-to-speak-to-me-finding-nemo-gif-15387458

ryu

[glass mortar]

Proud of u babe

Brann level check

[vivid vessel]

ok ye

thats lashga

[cold jewel]

brann is a lil baby back bitch

[glass mortar]

My brann does more dps then u I bet

[cold jewel]

prob true

[glass mortar]

When im playing my brm anyway

[random stirrup]

[wind cosmos]

I mostly play in a premade but no phys comp

[covert kestrel]

no but he referred to lashga in the 3rd person, hes not allowed to do that to himself

[outer brook]

My brann eats his breakfast which is the most importsnt meal of the day. I take care of my brann

lol

[vivid vessel]

randomly checking r15 sub mmghe

vs r1

mgge

[nocturne talon]

What fuckity fuck. How

[covert kestrel]

Well maybe he just knows he was S1 number 1 sub rogue, from his raider.io or twitch pages. that was legit, and never boosted ofc

[covert kestrel]

i can smell lashga from miles away

[wintry solar]

That stinky huh

[covert kestrel]

smells like desperation and loneliness

[keen belfry]

I do not I just edited the public one

[wintry solar]

Yucky

[covert kestrel]

my parents removed my norsken when i was born

[outer brook]

anyone smoke weed?

[stiff vector]

I only smoke HO bozos on the meters

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/satan-simpsons-flanders-warning-cannabis-gif-9012171421575446051

[outer brook]

lol playing outlaw when youre stoned is great

[outer brook]

nice ive been trying to learn the class more, i usually get top dps in the dungeons i run but i know if im up against someone who knows their class im coked

cooked

[random stirrup]

It’s so funny because usually you can tell in like the first 3 messages

[copper radish]

Slo mo mode

[radiant vessel]

is there a preference to a second craft or is it just sim everything after 1h wep and see what turns up the biggest gain

[buoyant cosmos]

that's what I was thinking, gets you out of your head vs caffiene which can have you on each GCD

[covert kestrel]

if there is anyone to prove that you don't have to be smart to be good at wow, its him

[copper radish]

The slower the mode the more APMs somehow right

[buoyant cosmos]

world first idiot savant rogue?

[outer brook]

pretty much

[buoyant cosmos]

existing between the gcds

[wintry solar]

Drinking while playing outlaw makes you fall asleep between bosses

Or maybe I was blacking out

Idr

[indigo token]

im so angry

i keep having my wifi drop out randomly

[copper radish]

Blacked out Popo on outlaw channel is something crazy to see 😂

[buoyant cosmos]

Bitta wine or Irish whiskey is nice tho

Feels fluid

[wintry solar]

It all tastes like piss or gasoline

[wintry solar]

Last time I rage quit outlaw and left the server

And then people thought I left because HO wasn't going to be the best build in S3

[copper radish]

Funny asf

[wintry solar]

How they came to that conclusion I'll never know

[cinder haven]

is it just me or is energy starvation worse on FB than Tricktster with 1fth?

maybe due to spamming GS?

[covert kestrel]

classic ho coper

[wintry solar]

My alcohol fueled rage actually had nothing to do with HO and everything to do with UHUH

And infinite CC lock

[gaunt phoenix]

From holding AR

[cinder haven]

could be yeah

[covert kestrel]

wait we holding ar now??

[nocturne talon]

Wait, is hekili cucking my dps ???

[cinder haven]

only me

[covert kestrel]

hopefully

[cinder haven]

normal rules doesn't yet

[covert kestrel]

was the last time we held ar s3 of df

[gaunt phoenix]

We will probably attempt to align AR GS alittle more than the last cook

[cinder haven]

it does sim better at least, but maybe makes the lows lower?

idk

feels pretty bad sometimes

[covert kestrel]

outlaw this patch

[cinder haven]

ye

[wintry solar]

You're giving your hands a workout and having decent rng and all you get is the scraps the bigger specs left behind

[worldly shale]

anyone smoke crack?

[normal forge]

1st on hc dimensius

[wintry solar]

Crack is wack

[worldly shale]

i macrod

crack

to crackshot window

have to do crack

on each one

[gaunt phoenix]

Awangawangawang

[wintry solar]

Good luck with that chief

[covert kestrel]

awangawangawanga

[wintry solar]

How would you fare if they delete crackshot in midnight?

[gaunt phoenix]

@keen belfry nice pull

[wintry solar]

Do you quit cold turkey?

[copper radish]

Anyone got carpal tunnel yet from playing outlaw. We can hit blizz with a workplace disability suit lololol

[copper radish]

What would replace that tho

[radiant mural]

Crackshot windows only when you hit 6 buffs

[wintry solar]

It's a hypothetical

[covert kestrel]

i have too much rotational shit on my mmo mouse and now have to stretch when i play law

[wintry solar]

I doubt they're removing it. I'm just expecting kir to get removed and RTB nuetered.

And talents moved around

[covert kestrel]

and adding a juggling talent

[wintry solar]

I can juggle

[bronze sky]

Back in SL I could do 10 or more dungeons a day
Now I can only do like 2 dungeons or like 1-2 hours of raiding before it hurts to much lmao

[covert kestrel]

like draven axes from league

its the new KS

[wintry solar]

I can juggle apples

[covert kestrel]

we have to catch our guns otherwise we lose 20% dps

[worldly shale]

HYPOTHETICALY

[wintry solar]

Not axes

[worldly shale]

prob die

[fathom bramble]

I mean if you played at enjoyed outlaw for years before crack

[worldly shale]

i am draven main

so

[fathom bramble]

I think you could live without the crack

[worldly shale]

lemme catch

[bronze sky]

Yeah I honestly miss our pre-Crackshot days

I think Outlaw is way to Stealth focused now

[worldly shale]

i miss our pre crack days

[fathom bramble]

I like the extra cooldown

and we have almost always been vanish focused at least

[wintry solar]

Because of subterfuge

[bronze sky]

Yeah but now we stay in "Stealth" for 6 seconds which is actually what allows our damage window rather Vanish itself

[desert tendon]

subterfuge

[fathom bramble]

idc if it's subterfuge or something else as long as vanish does something meaningful when I press it

[wintry solar]

Idc for vanish but I'm a subt hater

Which is odd now because of talent placement

[desert tendon]

popo a crakshot hater

wtfwtf

[covert kestrel]

popo hates fun!

[wintry solar]

It could be taken off my bars for all I care

RAHHH THATS NOT TRUE

[bronze sky]

Well you need Vanish to Crackshot

[worldly shale]

i mean

whats wrong with shadow dance

pepega

[bronze sky]

lmao

[wintry solar]

Not necessarily

I mean now yes

[midnight thorn]

!WA

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[wintry solar]

But hypothetically it could be tied to anything or be given its own button

[fathom bramble]

crackshot could be for X seconds after activating AR

or be its own button for some delicious button bloat

[wintry solar]

Bloat lol

[worldly shale]

dont like the sound of that

tbh

[bronze sky]

I like that idea

[fathom bramble]

it's bloat if vanish is on my bars and does nothing

[wintry solar]

Take it off your bar

[bronze sky]

If I cant use CTRL, ALT, and SHIFT 1-5 leybinds I dont have enough buttons

[wintry solar]

Fixed

[slate forge]

Still be a utility spell like nelf

[bronze sky]

Yeah I loved being able to use Vanish to dodge Mechanics back in SL

[wintry solar]

They'd have to actually give us the utility to make it worth

Or make ST cc meta again (lol)

[willow portal]

I have mythic weapon craft and hc ring craft + mythoc boe ring. What should i use 3rd spark on?

[alpine bough]

if u dont roll 4 dice after 1.5mn fight on a boss and u cant kir, it is ok to call reset in a raid ?

[bronze sky]

No

But I understand your pain

[copper radish]

Just “accidentally” wipe the whole raid no worries

[alpine bough]

i feel like kir is more rng i dont know

[bronze sky]

Damn the rules I have been fucked by RNG so many times I roll on two buff a lot

As long as you got that yellow border you can just keep rolling so I feel like it works better

[keen belfry]

its r1 now?

[hexed sedge]

quick question, is blade flurry bugged? It does the initial damage but after that doesn't do any damage to other targets (farming old content)

[inland acorn]

if you one shot target, bf doesn't cleave

or rather

if you kill*

[keen belfry]

nvm im guessing he was looking at just US logs

[hexed sedge]

Oh i see, thank you!

[desert tendon]

Awang

how is the mage jouney?

[brisk lotus]

guys am i missing something? i feel like i do no damage like i can barely beat my 710 tank with 688 gear

also is there a bug or a reason why people are heavily running trickster in high keys instead of fatebound?

[worldly shale]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[brisk lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[inland acorn]

New copypasta just dropped

[knotty needle]

Listen, I’m not saying Outlaw Rogue is bad, but if I wanted someone to roll dice for damage, I’d invite my grandma to the casino. Every pull is a slot machine — maybe they get good buffs, maybe they don’t, but either way you’re stuck watching a pirate LARP with pistols while the rest of us do actual DPS. Outlaw in M+ is like bringing a butter knife to a raid boss: it technically works, but you’re only hurting the team’s feelings. Do yourself a favor — kick the Outlaw, grab literally any other spec, and enjoy your keys without the sound of ‘roll the bones’ echoing into your nightmares.

[stiff vector]

tfw you got invited and kicked from group so fast(prob for being outlaw) that it just says you arent in a party

[lethal oak]

[glass yew]

mm... Seems like after 1st pack where S-tier specs blast uncaped mobs with bl/

[stiff vector]

its fine ive had such horrendous luck with groups this week so far its crazy...like just perma bricking every key

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[keen belfry]

im rising in the ranks of being goated

[elder phoenix]

how do you know if you're flagged for abandoning groups for m+?

[valid tartan]

lmao

[elder phoenix]

I havent

[valid tartan]

I top every key im in as outlaw

they just dont know

[elder phoenix]

But how do you know if you are

[elder phoenix]

like do you have a debuf?

[bright crane]

There’s a red exclamation mark by your name

When you queue for groups

Idk if you can see it

But when you apply, others can

[lethal oak]

Queue as assa and then when the key is about to start swap to your DK

Works everytime

[old gull]

My picture is a meme here I love it

[bright crane]

You can also see if ppl in a group in LFG have it

[indigo token]

its so good

OUTLAW!!!!!!!

[copper radish]

Cause it’s something every outlaw had experienced

[timid idol]

dispatch found dead in a ditch

[indigo token]

how tf

[steel charm]

i just ask something why you guys being so attrophy poison ^^

[timid idol]

idk everyone tells me to dispatch more but my dmg spread always looks like this

idk what people mean by dispatch more coup and bte are simply better

[lethal oak]

New meta is no crackshot

[pastel pecan]

why top rogues dont use nightfall mace on mythic+?

[timid idol]

isnt myth weapon simply better

since u dont lose as much on st

and its comparable in aoe

[quaint sable]

u can waep swap

[timid idol]

yea but id rather kms

[keen belfry]

if u dont get 691 one its not really worth

[glass mortar]

No its not better but zac is morally opposed to using a 678 one

[slate forge]

Dungeons end in a boss so you are always swapped at end

[timid idol]

i dun get it

[glass mortar]

678 and myth stuff is pretty close but pretty sure cudgel still wins at max targets

[timid idol]

so is myth weapon not better than 691 cudgel

[glass mortar]

No

[timid idol]

doomed to never have st

gg

[slate forge]

691 cudgel is only for cheaters

[glass mortar]

But almost nobody has 691

And u can weapon swap anyway

[timid idol]

hi

[glass mortar]

So it doesn't doom ur st

[slate forge]

Make sure you swap before bosses

[timid idol]

sometimes u cant even swap tho

[glass mortar]

U can always swap in combat it just takes a gc

Gcd

Don't do it during crackshot

[timid idol]

ig its bad tanking but sometimes the tank takes a couple of mobs into the boss if we have good damage

o wait fr?

[glass mortar]

Yes

[timid idol]

u can do it mid combat?

[lethal oak]

No need to swap if you don't run the mace

[timid idol]

oh nvm then

[lethal oak]

Ez

[timid idol]

anyone got a macro

[glass mortar]

U want to do it out of combat if u can cause it costs a full unhasted gcd

[timid idol]

for swap

[glass mortar]

But u can do it in combat

[timid idol]

thats perfect then

[sage pawn]

why is recom. pants tier (so much mastery), is gloves for 4pc not enough? i get that there is no good leg drop. why not craft legs?

[timid idol]

1 gcd is doable

[worldly shale]

dispatch these nuts

[timid idol]

not the ultimate end of the world

i have this for st

wait

does it pull you out of stealth

swapping gear

[slate forge]

No

[timid idol]

ok its goated actually

wtf i thought swapping was way more cancer

just need a swap macro now

wait can u not get 691 cudgel anymore

[pastel pecan]

really? is the 678 worth for swap?

[worldly shale]

literally /equipslot 16 (weapon name)
/equipslot 16 cudgel

but i cba

[timid idol]

oh

[worldly shale]

i just use dagger from sub

[timid idol]

thanks bro

[worldly shale]

XD

[slate forge]

You get 1/20 chance once a week

[timid idol]

[glass mortar]

It can only come from the weekly reset event quest

[timid idol]

i won the lottery getting it first try on patch release

[glass mortar]

Not anything else

[safe moat]

Guys Hello

[frail veldt]

hello

[covert kestrel]

HELLO

[safe moat]

I think u r cool and i want to start playing rogue since ive been maining healers since 2009

[frail veldt]

do it

[safe moat]

Ok so im watching stuff about outlaw and like are there any weakauras you use to traxk everything? Or is there a channel for it here

[frail veldt]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[frail veldt]

Zac's group is a good choice but all of those are solid

[crude flower]

Completely forgot how much % is just blade flurry lmao

Even worse than bombs on SV

[keen belfry]

awangs? iu hear hes a nice guy too

[safe moat]

Thanks gonna check it

[frail veldt]

is yours one of those?

[keen belfry]

no but i just copied zac so might cant be there

[frail veldt]

hahaha

I make my own jank package

[keen belfry]

i made mine too but its so zac coded i hate it

my other class packs are better

[frail veldt]

I started from scratch cuz im dumb

[keen belfry]

same u shouldve seen my first WAs xd

[crude flower]

Btw hows outlaw feel rn
Like fun wise

is it same old same old

[worldly shale]

So you play Outlaw Rogue, huh? Congratulations, you’ve officially signed up for the most misunderstood, disrespected, and utterly chaotic existence in all of Azeroth. While other rogues are busy moping in the shadows like emo high schoolers, I’m out here rolling dice, spinning pistols, and dismantling entire raid bosses like I’m auditioning for a pirate-themed John Wick movie. Subtlety? Boring. Assassination? Please. I’m here dual-wielding a slot machine and a cutlass, praying to RNGesus while I turn the battlefield into a Las Vegas crime scene.

[crude flower]

See

this guy gets it

[frail veldt]

everything excluding 1pt fth plays amazing rn imom

imo*

killing spree is long but its not that bad

[covert kestrel]

BUT THAT'S ALL WE PLAY

[frail veldt]

yeah sadly

the big problems with outlaw rn are its damage profile

[covert kestrel]

And downtime

[frail veldt]

they nerfed KS to target mobs randomly so we lost about 10-20% Prio damage in aoe

on a spec that already has not so great prio damage

and our overall isnt the best rn either

so we are a spec with no utility in its damage profile AND not great overall damage

[quick scaffold]

After bte do i need to cast dispatch i see a lot of logs with bte>dp

[frail veldt]

so were effectively useless

[frail veldt]

crackshot auto casts dispatch while in subterfuge when you press bte

[crude flower]

Fair

[formal thunder]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XvRyKzMFWDd9jVkY?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=5
Anyone able to look over this?
This was by far the best performance so far (still pretty bad tbh). One thing that immediately baffles me when looking at top runs on Archon is how they only cast Dispatch like <200 times, while I'm hitting 3 times that amount. OMFG I just realized Details trolled me and Crackshot Dispatches were included in that metric. Still, would appreciate someone looking at this and letting me know if I fucked up something major consistently. :)

[crude flower]

I haven't touched outlaw in ages

Im just mashing bombs atm

[worldly shale]

Oh, you think your class is “complex”? That your little rotation of two buttons and a proc makes you a real gamer? Sit down, keyboard tourist. I’m an Outlaw Rogue main, which means every boss pull is a war crime waiting to happen. While you’re drooling on your one-button macro, I’m rolling dice like a coked-up casino dealer, rewriting reality itself with Roll the Bones. Did I just get Skull and Crossbones? Yeah, your parse is deleted. No buffs? Don’t worry, I’ll still out-DPS you with half my keys tied to a fidget spinner.

guys im crying

idk

this is

idk

[frail veldt]

u good?

[worldly shale]

no

[safe moat]

Its Ok buddy

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[normal forge]

Can you cast GS on dead target?

[glass mortar]

no

[quaint mauve]

we have the most useless dmg profile in like all content

idk if i like 2 fth or not

[mighty pivot]

"ghostly" strike not being castable on dead targets is false advertising

[slate forge]

What do you mean being a pad dmg spec that is capped at 8 targets with no burst is bad? It’s a unique and fun gaming experience

[glass mortar]

turning law into a pad spec was crazy ngl

[magic shuttle]

Pad?

[glass mortar]

ye

PC

give up all ur ST to do actual aoe

[slate forge]

You kill the little mobs but don’t kill the big mobs

[quaint mauve]

bro on soulbinder

[glass mortar]

me when 20% ST gap between our aoe and st builds

[quaint mauve]

i was top 3 dps overall

[glass mortar]

if u dont think outlaw is a pad spec go check boss damage logs on literally any of the add fights this season

[quaint mauve]

#7 on boss

[glass mortar]

we used to do that damage for free

[strong halo]

omg if we could mog daggers into small guns

[quaint mauve]

adds gotta die though i was just doing my job

[slate forge]

It’s not like our ST build is that good even

[magic shuttle]

Gotta flip those coins

Can't say I'm enjoying fatebound gameplay in st with gs alignment

[glass mortar]

really

i like it more then waiting for RP to vanish

its a better vanish rule then even pressing RtB imo

ur not trying to like hold ghostly for vanish r u? cause ur only supposed to do the other way around

when ghostly comes off cd u just send it

[magic shuttle]

Yeah I don't hold ghostly

[wintry solar]

I only hold it if I don't have adr