it matters on frame input
#outlaw
vivid vessel
well it generate visual frames
proven ocean
that ye maybe
proper veldt
yeah and instead of dropping from 80 -> 40 fps all of sudden when an explosion goes out in raid you stay way more stable with capped fps + frame gen
the 80->40 makes you stutter
proven ocean
@vivid vessel
digital linden
input latency gets shafted from frame generation
proven ocean
minor but still there
proper veldt
noob
inland cairn
guys i dont think god of war is a good comparison for wow 
proven ocean
if anything maybe frame gen is just worse
proven ocean
guys i dont think god of war is a good comparison for wow <:kekw:137482973644587...
i think ur not reading the conversation and u just saw the picture
digital linden
it 100% is atleast from what i have seen
it may be better than micro stuttering tho
pick your poison bro
inland cairn
i am reading
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194>
no idea what you are sending me rn
proven ocean
this is a comparison if input matters old gpu vs new gpu
inland cairn
that game is using 86% of a 5090, thers no way wow gets anywhere near that
proven ocean
latency
vivid vessel
ok but im talking about frame gen?
midnight thorn
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
digital linden
ye the more modern the lower latency
proven ocean
ye
digital linden
there was this guy on youtube created lowest input latency pc possible
proven ocean
ye the more modern the lower latency
@vivid vessel thats what i mean
digital linden
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> thats what i mean
ok but im just talking about frame gen
how imo its fake
because it doesnt improve input fps
proper veldt
vivid vessel
just gpu frames
hasty warren
We made it
gg
proper veldt
actually coping though it makes a big difference
digital linden
ye its percieved frames
proven ocean
vivid vessel
that doesnt matter you are still not creating cpu frames so your inputs are still say at40fps while visually you are at 70 fps
proper veldt
if you cap at 40 in game, and you always reach 40 in game then you are generating to 80 fps.
Without frame gen, you might drop from 80 -> 40 like in raid then you lag spike
proven ocean
chatgbt talks about this
but no zac higher fps is smoother and better than actual input lag
but
frame gen doesnt like increase input by a major amount
usually if u have like a giga new gpu it wont matter at all
cuz u will have lower input than everything
but
smoother gameplay
proper veldt
it prevents you from having large drops in frames its more stable cause you can cap at a frame rate that you can 100% always run
vivid vessel
im not saying it increase it
proven ocean
idk what max's tech is if its good or not
cedar kernel
vivid vessel
it doesnt increase it by a meaningfull amount
proper veldt
it deletes all micro stutter fr
vivid vessel
im jsut saying there is a big diff between 40 fps and 80 fps for input fps
proven ocean
that makes a difference imo
proper veldt
large drops in raid like if ur constantly at 80 and all of a sudden on one mechanic you drop to 40
you stutter cuh
with frame gen you can cap at 40
and still have 80 fps all the time
visually
proper veldt
yeah but you dont drop in frames
hybrid crown
I set my graphics to 1 in raid and close all the shit on my PC except discord
proper veldt
you guys just cope and then in 10 years when zac upgrades from 1080 to a 99980
he'll realize
fr
proven ocean
i mean
gtx 1080 is prob not a diff to a 4080 lol
it just has a rly rly small diff
like
digital linden
crazy statement
proven ocean
it will make a difference but its giga minor
hybrid crown
In a wow is CPU bound sort of way?
covert kestrel
In a wow is CPU bound sort of way?
Absolutely
proven ocean
In a wow is CPU bound sort of way?
i think calling wow a cpu bound game is an old statement btw
in modern pc's u need both
people are stuck in the past
it is what it is tho
i dont lag in 40 man raids anymore
so
hybrid crown
I have a 5800x3d and a 3080 and wow runs like crap in raid š¦
hybrid crown
Yeah
proven ocean
like
look
the leap of wow
into being good
is 7800x3d and above
7800x3d > 9800x3d
gpu barely makes a diff sure but once u play in 4k/2k
gpu matters
covert kestrel
in modern pc's u need both
Ye but for 95% of people, upgrading to a X3D cpu will be by far the biggest fps boost for wow
vivid vessel
bro i have a 1080ti with a 7800x3d and my game is still cpu bound cuh
vivid vessel
wow is just shit
hybrid crown
Its been hard to justify spending a grand on a mobo ram CPU just for wow but I'm getting close
vivid vessel
nah my game is at 1080p
proven ocean
im sure u will get gpu bottlenecked if ur 2k
ah
1080p maybe ur fine in most areas
in open world ur giga bottlenecked by gpu tho
so ye
same for M+
in raid ur gonna be cpu bottlenecked mostly
proven ocean
Its been hard to justify spending a grand on a mobo ram CPU just for wow but I'm...
like
if u want to get the most out of ur money
u just wait for 10800x3d
like my idea is like
if ur not able to pay for a cpu
and if ur gonna buy one
u just wait till new one is out
10800x3d is waay far ahead tho
9800x3d still kinda new
barren venture
strong halo
Im at 4K, 4070 and 12600k. Theres no way I could have 20 fps in a raid
hybrid crown
yeah my first PC I had for 8 years and running wow just was acceptable the whole time. 6 years even is a good run for a PC I guess. I think I can keep the 3080 even and wow won't be gpu bottlenecked
I can just replace the gpu later
hybrid crown
I will keep that 10800 tip in mind
digital linden
i mean i have same cpu as zac 7800x3d and i still lag sometimes
reshanor
reshanor made my computer slow to a crawl
proven ocean
I will keep that 10800 tip in mind
its prob gonna take 1-2 years tho
for it to be released
digital linden
and i have a modern gpu as well
hybrid crown
ah
proven ocean
so idk if u wanna wait
9800x3d is giga new kinda
so if u wanna buy that its fine too
digital linden
atleast if u have 7800x3d u will be able to switch to 9800x3d and 10800x3d or whatever without mobo change
or ram
proven ocean
hybrid crown
yeah true
that's what makes the upgrade more painful is needing to go to AM5 and the new RAM
hybrid crown
DDr5 or whatever
vivid vessel
maybe new one soon
strong halo
Bro does intel just suck on wow idk
proven ocean
@hybrid crown
vivid vessel
ony
proven ocean
10800 new
digital linden
inland cairn
Bro does intel just suck on wow idk
amd is just better for all games these days
hybrid crown
yeah
vivid vessel
ok well
digital linden
x3d is always delayed a bit after tho
vivid vessel
how tf does mister ai nkows
hybrid crown
another thing for me is I upgraded from a 5800 to a 5800x3d which makes me want to keep this pc
proven ocean
i'd just wait for it no cappy tho
strong halo
Idk if anyone here has played rust game who is even more cpu reliant than wow and amd is crushing it too there
proven ocean
ur 5800x3d isnt old
hybrid crown
but that was also a few years ago
proven ocean
like
its not bad
5800x3d is still decent
but
10800x3d is gonna be a huge leap for u
like ur gonna lag now abit sometimes
strong halo
amd is just better for all games these days
Seems like it but fuck getting a new mobo and reassembling.
proven ocean
but 10800x3d is like gg
digital linden
how tf does mister ai nkows
no idea big dude i think they announce stuff like that way ahead of time to investors
ember fractal
guys 2 set bonus new Tier its way worst than 4 set bonus old tier , or SIM is working bad ?
digital linden
guys 2 set bonus new Tier its way worst than 4 set bonus old tier , or SIM is wo...
for m+ i think ye
strong halo
I have a hot take ā¦ Elvui really doesnāt take that much fps ā¦ weakauras are the real killers
ember fractal
for m+ i think ye
yea for M+
digital linden
I have a hot take ā¦ Elvui really doesnāt take that much fps ā¦ weakauras are the ...
maybe bro
zeross says he gets 0 lag evne in 40man
he doesnt play with elvui does he?
strong halo
You might be onto something
old gull
i swear im playing kir wrong idk
strong halo
A double yappuccino with milk
smoky venture
@vivid vessel Is dagger in the offhand the way to go?
covert kestrel
guys 2 set bonus new Tier its way worst than 4 set bonus old tier , or SIM is wo...
Yes we go 4p>4p for trickster and 2p2p only for fatebound in raid
covert kestrel
<@352916297262301194> Is dagger in the offhand the way to go?
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more 
Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, 
Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
strong halo
Sims donāt capture aura loss from dagger mog
digital linden
Sims donāt capture aura loss from dagger mog
holy true
ember fractal
Yes we go 4p>4p for trickster and 2p2p only for fatebound in raid
ok thanks
covert kestrel
Sims donāt capture aura loss from dagger mog
Legion weapon mog required
digital linden
thats the hidden tech
strong halo
Thereās the new dagger that kind of works well tbh
digital linden
which one
digital linden
loomi one?
inland cairn
i dont remember
strong halo
light kernel
is netherprism bis for us?
strong halo
Yeah loomy one
light kernel
frac one
strong halo
And thatās a sword mh
covert kestrel
is netherprism bis for us?
Doesn't hold a candle to harvesters edict
covert kestrel
Dude just make sure the orb misses you and you get a huge damage proc, what's not to love
Like everyone sleeping on grim codex last season
strong halo
Well tbh outlaw is flexible with trinkets
keen belfry
Tennuh
tight kernel
This might be full copium but Iāll give it a try. Whatever for feels good vibes
digital linden
damn bro i didnt even see this u werent lying when u said vault was guaranteed juicy
glass timber
is antenna the only real option here? I have hero sigil and champ projector
it sims lower on dungeon slice than projector does
glass timber
idk im at 23% with projector and 20% without... :/
gaunt phoenix
I would take M chest
livid kindle
yo solo while you here how about fatebound vs trixter in keys ? for me fatebound simming higher in dslice
gaunt phoenix
maybe fatebound in streets but otherwise there's not enough st
livid kindle
i see thanks
proper veldt
This might be full copium but Iāll give it a try. Whatever for feels good vibes
yeah make sure to cap ur fps too
alpine stag
yeah make sure to cap ur fps too
Might be a dumb question but what do I cap it too?
And do I cap it in-game?
proper veldt
Might be a dumb question but what do I cap it too?
I followed this
no
cap it in nvidia app
fly around in dornogal and you'll see all the micro stutters from world loading or whatever is gone
also enable all friendly nameplates in dornogal I still dont stutter
vivid vessel
damn bro i didnt even see this u werent lying when u said vault was guaranteed j...
i did say 97% chcane of getting an item i need
copper radish
brother is paying the devs for vault luck RIP
vivid vessel
seeing as ur never getting that in myth
why would i never be getting that in mtyhic
digital linden
why would i never be getting that in mtyhic
ur lower prio
i imagine ur guild wont be giving u it if it does like 3% damage increase on a lock
no?
stiff vector
I need me some zac rng let me borrow some cuh 
digital linden
ye doesnt outlaw gain way less than most?
vivid vessel
Well I play sub
digital linden
dont know how accurate this is
but this is what my guild is going off of
the bloodmallet statistic for antenna
vivid vessel
digital linden
basically im not getting it š
vivid vessel
it depends on your gear and shit
keen belfry
Zac
vivid vessel
wango
keen belfry
How is antenna in keys
strong halo
Why not antenna + warp law
I think sigil is sim bait idk it does jack all in my meters
digital linden
really?
keen belfry
Sigil > warpclaw
sudden fulcrum
dont know how accurate this is
Not accurate for you when bloodmallet is a collection of sims using gear you donāt have. Your own sims will always be more accurate
digital linden
not for me but as a general rule to follow when considering who should get what
strong halo
Sigil > warpclaw
Brotha we using same trinkets š
sudden fulcrum
Still not worth using because it doesnāt reflect the power gain for you
glass mortar
What is the default miss % for antenna
digital linden
Still not worth using because it doesnāt reflect the power gain for *you*
ye ofc i never used it to begin with my guilds loot council is
glass mortar
My guildies were checking logs and on some fights they were missing as many as 25% of orbs to expiration
I wonder what everyone sims it at
limpid stream
can u still swap cudgel for a dagger in keys or no
strong halo
You have to play mini game with antenna?????
glass mortar
Also apparently on the boat in dawn the orbs don't float to u they usually just stop and need to be run over
digital linden
You have to play mini game with antenna?????
ye tiny orbs around u
glass mortar
Well, they are supposed to float into yoy slowly
strong halo
can u still swap cudgel for a dagger in keys or no
Yes depends on cudgel ilvl
glass mortar
But u can outrun then
strong halo
Oh helllll nahhh
glass mortar
Due to mechanics or w.e
strong halo
What was that season 1 trinket that was cringe
limpid stream
Yes depends on cudgel ilvl
i mean during the key swap weap for boss can we stil do it
glass mortar
Yes
strong halo
Yes why would that change
glass mortar
Swap to a different oh for st
digital linden
What was that season 1 trinket that was cringe
treacherous?
limpid stream
thought they had fix it mb
digital linden
ye i didnt like the little mini game
glass mortar
It's not supposed to be a mini game since the orbs automatically float to u
But they r slow and expire after like 20s and apparently it's more common for them to not be consumed then my guildies thought
Prob depends on the fight tho
old gull
dimensius trinket doing some work for me
glass mortar
It's fine
digital linden
idk how fast they move i have the antenna on my druid but maybe on a boss like mythic loomi u would lose a lot of procs
glass mortar
Dont get baited by details it has no primary stat
strong halo
I feel like eventually this tier will be pugable until fractil mythic
Maybe not with Araz in the way
digital linden
araz is the scary one
vivid vessel
I don't think you pug fractilus
white marten
Araz the fun one
vivid vessel
People will fail the weak aura check
strong halo
Really? Itās brainless in heroic
Addon tells you what to do
Some pugs force you to get it
strong halo
Pugs are already forcing they
vivid vessel
And one guy fail the assign it's an auto wipe
strong halo
That
waxen scarab
antenna still bis after nerf?
granite merlin
wintry solar
!container
digital linden
!!
wintry solar
Wasn't that a command?
torpid fiber
!lunchbox
strong flicker
i dont understand people swap oh to nightfall through key or just play with s3 oh
or 6.5 m overoll is default for 13+
white marten
Default?
hasty warren
someone have the command to upgrade the cloak ?
strong flicker
someone have the command to upgrade the cloak ?
./run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
covert kestrel
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
hasty warren
ty
wintry solar
You're welcome
torpid fiber
awesome command I should memorise it
torpid fiber
What happens if you use tree ID 1116
gaunt phoenix
Banned
torpid fiber
Fuck
tepid skiff
@proven ocean this spec sucks!
gaunt phoenix
There never was one
gaunt phoenix
!rtb
ornate heathBOT
How to use 
RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and 
Supercharger)
- Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
- Roll if you have 2 buffs and
Loaded Dice is active. - Roll once asap after pressing
KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border). - After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.
white marten
I meant that I can't do more thet 6.5 overoll
It really depends on the key. Like 6.5m in a flood is pretty low, for example.
waxen scarab
<@1172550924519080006> this spec sucks!
YES
strong flicker
It really depends on the key. Like 6.5m in a flood is pretty low, for example.
I'm just not sure if I should do nightfall oh
waxen scarab
belt?
vivid vessel
<@1172550924519080006> this spec sucks!
bro assa is so bad ..
waxen scarab
maybe hands
off set
waxen scarab
i already have them hc
waxen scarab
what are hand set stats ?
crit/mastery
hasty warren
myth belt is the way so
strong flicker
only 37 keys and now i dont need them anymore
proven ocean
<@1172550924519080006> this spec sucks!
old 4 set dps and hes only doing 11m now with bis trinkets and bis setup+optimized route 
1m less with a pug dh tank
12 deaths too
prob 14m overall if no deaths
worldly shale
only 37 keys and now i dont need them anymore
got myth legs from vault so now i can use hands XD
proven ocean
old 4 set dps and hes only doing 11m now with bis trinkets and bis setup+optimiz...
@vivid vessel he still thinks im saying assa is bad when it was omega gapping everyone 
osrs players 
worldly shale
bro
how do people not know
ross is sub warlord
why sending assa clips
whats going on
proven ocean
no cappy
worldly shale
i mean based
why would u play a spec that does half damage with double effort
there is just us lunatics
proven ocean
except outlaw
fix outlaw and i'll play it again
not a fan of having a scuffed spec that literally half the rogue discord hates too
digital linden
Damn bro i did NOT know you were built like that
strong halo
fix outlaw and i'll play it again
bro that was 20 years ago
strong halo
i mean other than KS being shit last season whats your main gripe with it
proven ocean
outlaw was good in s3 DF
i pumped there too
almost all my kills were private cuz cringe guild
deleted my logs
proven ocean
no..zac is the cooked one..
hardy thicket
proven ocean
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> he still thinks im saying assa is bad when it was omega ga...
assa so bad ..
proven ocean
zac ā 6:55 PM
assa so bad ..
proven ocean
assa so bad ..
no cappy tho
after the bugs like its still doing everyone dps but
idk
0 st...
no point...
vivid vessel
i do think you are over exageratting tho
proven ocean
no nnothing..
proven ocean
and assa does more dps
well it does ye
but
still low st than everyone
including outlaw on bleed build
lower than toulaw
vivid vessel
Well
proven ocean
dont well me it is true
i dont play bleed in dawnbreaker when i won st against u on 2/3 bosses
worldly shale
is that healing?
vivid vessel
ye
worldly shale
proven ocean
@vivid vessel i mean
assa prob still does more than almost everything
especially when u play around it its prob strongest overall
vivid vessel
ye so
vivid vessel
Just bring funnel into bossrs
i mean you are mad assa isnt mega op anymore
and its just meta now
or
proven ocean
and its just meta now
its not really meta
i dont think anyone knows whats meta atm
since assa got cooked
vivid vessel
i do
proven ocean
we'll have to wait
rare shoal
Can we use a 720 crafted dagger in OH or do we need to use a 710 sword in OH?
proven ocean
sub isn't that good but it'll still be able to time r1 keys
i think u can time r1 keys with any class anyway
and any spec
worldly shale
sub isn't that good but it'll still be able to time r1 keys
that russian sub guy is popping
proven ocean
its just early season
i died on my cds and still did his same dps
in priory
prob would've gapped i lost prism 2 times
random geyser
Hey saw the top parses on nexus king the guy had like 85% uptime on all rtb buffs is that just a god pull or is there something I am missing
proven ocean
sub always pumps early cuz of trinkets
and falls off later
and our route was outlaw route
2 mobs at a time left side + shield š
wtf am i flagging there cuh
rare shoal
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
proven ocean
that russian sub guy is popping
u know whats sub's main issue
once u get into the omega high keys
like
18/19s atm
the packs dont die till sub rogue sends his cds
so if u dont send cds or bad timing
rancid silo
why is outlaw so good on Soul hunters
proven ocean
tank may die and u deplete the key
like
pulls become unbelievably hard
cuz ur based on a 1.5 min cd
digital linden
tank may die and u deplete the key
is it maybe sub arc for u now that u think assa is dog
random geyser
@rancid silo blade flurry with precise cuts we are doing like 90% dmg on the other 2 aswell as main target damage
proven ocean
sin >= sub in dawn
but u have to play it perfect there
and bleed build wont work in dawn
at all
so u gotta minmax cleave build to the teeth
and it has no guides
so good luck
rancid silo
<@104790172691939328> blade flurry with precise cuts we are doing like 90% dmg o...
do other guilds have the problem where the tank one sometimes doesnt group with the other 2 fast she just stands out and casts 24/7
proven ocean
idk if whispyr made an apl for that cooked build but afaik mine is the only one thats working on it
since its a giga high key only build
prob not worth messing around it much but i did abit
random geyser
@rancid silo yeah I just keep going and hold killing spree til they group also one jumps out sometimes for the hunt
worldly shale
once u get into the omega high keys
Yah the same thing happened
last season
no?
sub was popping off
till like mid season
rancid silo
<@104790172691939328> yeah I just keep going and hold killing spree til they gro...
its worth holding ks until tthey group?
proven ocean
ye
sub did popoff till midseason
and btw
im already feeling that sub wall
right now
and its not even mid season yet
just a matter of time till ppl swap to better classes/specs
random geyser
@rancid silo I am not expert but I had a 92 parse
rancid silo
<@104790172691939328> I am not expert but I had a 92 parse
mythic?
random geyser
Hero
proven ocean
what
u dont hold KS for them to group up
what the helly
that sounds diabolical
its spread dmg
it does X amount of dmg always
hybrid crown
Our group had the range better focus on the tanky DH and mele being able to cleave all three the whole fight really helped with my parse
random geyser
@rancid silo probably but we still have some of the best 3 target cleave @proven ocean I only hold it for 1 or 2 finishers if 1 is running in
proven ocean
idk about holding KS zac prob knows all of it but this whole convo sounds cooked
i dont play outlaw nowadays
cinder relic
till like mid season
Assassination literally got buffed mid season as well
proven ocean
@vivid vessel
random geyser
I mean its a cone now but hitting 3 targets for 900k+ each vs 2 targets seems worth it to hold for a second in my mind
proven ocean
im pretty sure KS is split dmg
and any additional minor dmg it may offer is legit so irrelevant
proven ocean
I mean its a cone now but hitting 3 targets for 900k+ each vs 2 targets seems wo...
ur mind sounds wrong no cappy
hybrid crown
I was just full sending I think for my parse
random geyser
Might be not an expert
red zinc
hybrid crown
But I'm not an expert for sure
red zinc
hybrid crown
I did manage 8 mil on my kill š
random geyser
Nice
I had heard someone say it only hit targets in front now but I guess that was incorrect
quiet swallow
Anyone else feel like they sneak nerfed fatebound on reset
cinder relic
Yeah
hollow creek
How do you guys sim for m+ ? Dungeon slice or patchwork how many targets and What time ?
vivid vessel
its spread dmg
you are so wrong
its just a normal ability
that blade flurry
but it target rng mobs
proper nacelle
guys what's a good WA pack for rogue this season?
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix i was checking r1 loomitar outlaw and i think this guy need help he didnt understadn the pin
vivid vessel
we aint all tbhata lucky cuh
gaunt phoenix
<@921608341048930304> i was checking r1 loomitar outlaw and i think this guy nee...
Rip
There are r1 logs using ambush
daring oxide
xd
gaunt phoenix
Cuz nothing matters i suppose
daring oxide
true!
slate forge
Blizzard decides your parse before you pull
gaunt phoenix
Gear check and raid check
rancid silo
is antenna sim bait on soul hunters
gaunt phoenix
Maybe a bit
rancid silo
claw better you think?
gaunt phoenix
its prolly the same shit
rancid silo
i see
keen belfry
am i a gamer?
rancid silo
also is claw a straight line when it wsays "in its path"
gaunt phoenix
Yes
keen belfry
i had a few moments last night where i was like oh i dont refresh ar here like normal?
what did sim say about holding ar for a few seconds to get a vanish AR GS
i did that last night a few times
gaunt phoenix
Not an expected gain
keen belfry
okok
gaunt phoenix
it is just 2 more coins after all
light kernel
If i have previous gs buff and new one comes do i send it if i dont have vanish charge or wait for vanish?
quaint mauve
anyone keep getting ADR extended to 31+ seconds?
let adr just add to the time u already have up
gaunt phoenix
If you don't have a vanish charge then you send it
quaint mauve
solo
gaunt phoenix
?!
quaint mauve
i had a question abt coup and KS priority
vivid vessel
Ks prio
keen belfry
you had one where did it go
vivid vessel
It has a cd
quaint mauve
whyās it better to KS over coup , is KS cdr more important than the UB stacks
quaint mauve
kk
gaunt phoenix
So you can just coup
vivid vessel
Imagine the amount of cdrr you lose if you spend 2 coup
gaunt phoenix
After
keen belfry
KS coup coup goes hard!!!
quaint mauve
Imagine the amount of cdrr you lose if you spend 2 coup
i wasnāt i just wanted to know
quaint mauve
bc it felt weird
proven ocean
??????????????????
gaunt phoenix
2 supercharged tb coup
quaint mauve
pressing KS when thereās a big shiny coup ready
proven ocean
ots fastest
inland acorn
proven ocean
fpr de;ves
keen belfry
https://tenor.com/view/300-fight-in-the-shade-we-will-fight-gif-16617186
zeross rn
proven ocean
its the fastest for delves
vivid vessel
Ye noob
proper veldt
Cancelaura?
late swallow
imagine showing this timeline to a wow player from 2005
frail veldt
Cancelaura?
I have cancelaura
vivid vessel
Well the other coins aren't shwin
daring oxide
thats probably 6 coins
desert tendon
Noob mewo
daring oxide
do a zoom on that
frail veldt
do a zoom on that
how
frail veldt
desert tendon
Yea its not shwin
daring oxide
you should see 6 tail hits
desert tendon
Bozo
daring oxide
yes
late swallow
real guy btw
cinder relic
@gaunt phoenix tell everybody to sim antenna at 30% miss
daring oxide
i see it right there
frail veldt
sick
cinder relic
if ppl ask
frail veldt
im a gamer
daring oxide
frail veldt
damn so casts doesnt show it all
daring oxide
1 2 3 4 5 6 tails
frail veldt
waxen scarab
<@921608341048930304> i was checking r1 loomitar outlaw and i think this guy nee...
bro these pins are harder than my calc midterm
frail veldt
vanish gs bte goes hard
acoustic hedge
why is the new 4p simming worse than old
desert tendon
You guys can count up to 6? No Wonder you re hardcapped
daring oxide
minigun
gaunt phoenix
<@921608341048930304> tell everybody to sim antenna at 30% miss
aight
buoyant cosmos
You guys can count up to 6? No Wonder you re hardcapped
I don't have that many fingers š
cinder relic
that was like, across our guilds numbers on nexus king, where literlaly nobody was trying to get orbs
acoustic hedge
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
cinder relic
U can probs get closer to 20% with good and ideal play, optimizing when you get the orbs, delaying them slightly for vanish and shit
fair oak
cinder relic
But like, if u pay 0 attention 30% is fairly conservative
buoyant cosmos
But like, if u pay 0 attention 30% is fairly conservative
Did you kill him?
buoyant cosmos
It'll happen
cinder relic
Literally
vivid vessel
<@921608341048930304> tell everybody to sim antenna at 30% miss
Meh
I miss like 10% at most
And that was before I was aware you had to pick up the balls
cinder relic
vivid vessel
You can probably just make a weak aura that tells you when ball spanwed since it's a buff
And look for it
buoyant cosmos
Zac loves gobbling balls
vivid vessel
I do
cinder relic
Sure, lets say 25% then
vivid vessel
20? Deal?
cinder relic
Itll still sim the best trinket 
heavy shadow
is sigil a hunter trink
real flax
Tom tu joues aussi sub
cinder relic
Its just mostly an issue on later encoutners
vivid vessel
Tom tu joues aussi sub
Me sub one trick
cinder relic
Sub is so fun man
vivid vessel
Ye
real flax
Me sub one trick
je tai toujours vu jouĆ© outlaw depuis DF š
vivid vessel
I love sub on prog
late swallow
sub was super fun last season too
austere mantle
merde
real flax
thats why i wanted to know for prog
vivid vessel
Litteraly despise sub anywhere else than prog tho
But ye
Sub prog is goated idk
Second fav spec after the law for sure
real flax
are you focusing on master or versa
real flax
i know
vivid vessel
I'm focusing on the best gear
I'm like that
I only get the best
If it's not the best I don't have it
real flax
ok so dont card about balacing the stat
cedar kernel
good day brothers
vivid vessel
If it's the best I have it
buoyant cosmos
Bougie, rich
cedar kernel
halls burned me out
digital linden
You can probably just make a weak aura that tells you when ball spanwed since it...
zac ball gobbling weakaura incoming?
buoyant cosmos
Off with his head
vivid vessel
zac ball gobbling weakaura incoming?
Ye of cours
digital linden
cant wait bro
vivid vessel
Me when I dodge into a beam on Nexus king to gobble my ball @cinder relic
austere mantle
zac ball gobbling weakaura incoming?
we smolderon all over again
cinder relic
Me when I dodge into a beam on Nexus king to gobble my ball <@96834520417828864>
I got heroic forge not an issue anymore 
digital linden
#ballgobblingfirst
cinder relic
double on use kingdom
vivid vessel
I got heroic forge not an issue anymore <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
Just got mythic antenna
light kernel
U fill up cp before sending vanish gs together?
austere mantle
for the love of god don't call it cp
light kernel
How do u call it?
austere mantle
just say combo points
vivid vessel
Cp
austere mantle
anything other than cp
vivid vessel
Everyone calls it cp
light kernel
?
austere mantle
aight then don't mind me
pearl trout
light kernel
U could answer my q instead xd
light kernel
Yes please
hasty warren
is it normal that coin is first damage ?
vivid vessel
Make sure it's all filled up
vivid vessel
is it normal that coin is first damage ?
Ye
hasty warren
bruh
acoustic hedge
!tier
buoyant cosmos
We big cp enjoyer here
acoustic hedge
is new 4p for outlaw only better on ST? cuz im getting same sims on dslice
late swallow
is it normal that coin is first damage ?
the tariffs ended up buffing outlaw a ton
austere mantle
fatebound is for st, trickster is for cleave
hasty warren
the tariffs ended up buffing outlaw a ton
buff triskter i beg
late swallow
buff triskter i beg
you should be able to cast 8 coups in a row instead of two
thoughts?
hasty warren
you should be able to cast 8 coups in a row instead of two
sounds weird
vivid vessel
10% aura when
vagrant saddle
make the thing stack more than 4 times and u consume 4 for coupe
your welcome for fixing trickster
heavy shadow
Just picked up Sigil HC for 50k, seems ok deal
cedar kernel
idk it will happen sometimes
i guess theres some bug there and we can make it happen always
gaunt phoenix
i have never seen it
vivid vessel
Really ?
proper veldt
it happens like twice per key to me idk man
vivid vessel
Idk happens sometimes
buoyant cosmos
Just picked up Sigil HC for 50k, seems ok deal
Robbed blind
hasty warren
10% aura when
way better
frail veldt
i have never seen it
same
Or I just dont notice
Cuz when my adr is frozen I have the duration turn off
reef forge
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
tight kernel
Zac run fb for dawn
elder phoenix
how did you show this on warcraft logs
vivid vessel
Ye sure I will
ripe ibex
Cuz when my adr is frozen I have the duration turn off
wait so you donāt know how much is left of adr while in stealth?
gaunt phoenix
how did you show this on warcraft logs
Casts > events
heavy shadow
Robbed blind
You think I paid too much or it's ok price
glass mortar
I mean I'm poor af and 50k is dirt cheap
Could probably make that in a day doing wq across a few characters if u were aiming for the gold ones
I bet to alot of the bozos in here 50k is literally nothin
quaint mauve
Could probably make that in a day doing wq across a few characters if u were aim...
50k is like
2 m+ boosts
digital linden
m+ 10 is like 250k
honest yarrow
Do we just full send the 4pc coup procs in keys as soon as theyāre up or can you pistol shot them up to like 5+ cp
heavy shadow
Yeah I thought it was a good price :p
gaunt phoenix
Do we just full send the 4pc coup procs in keys as soon as theyāre up or can you...
you try to build cps, but not with ss
if you have to press ss then you rather just send coup early
digital linden
is it normal that coin is first damage ?
my damage breakdown looks identical
either we are both doing something wrong or we are both doing it right š
frail veldt
wait so you donāt know how much is left of adr while in stealth?
nope
I do this because of a bug with how blizzard implemented "frozen" buffs
they just multiply their duration by like 50 lol
and blizzard CD numbers know this so they work
ripe ibex
but you can make it not do that
frail veldt
but if you use any other numbering addon
hasty warren
either we are both doing something wrong or we are both doing it right š
i'm playing turbo bad
ripe ibex
ew
frail veldt
which changes my numbering font and colors numbers when theyre below a certain amount
ripe ibex
ye
frail veldt
so because of blizzrads bug I have to do this
or not even bug
this is intentional
its a hack
that they did to "pause" durations
frail veldt
how did you show this on warcraft logs
events -> casts/timelines
frail veldt
lol yep
digital linden
i'm playing turbo bad
really? im matching my sim
gaunt phoenix
coin should be highest
gaunt phoenix
i got 13 lucky coins in 2 minutes here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gZGMJBRq9HLf36P1?fight=29&type=damage-done&source=82
vivid vessel
honestly the coloring of the numbers is SUPER nice
meh i just do that with weak auras
gaunt phoenix
actually so good at this game
frail veldt
meh i just do that with weak auras
sounds annoying lol mine just does it by defualt
vivid vessel
its not annoying cuase its exactly how i want it
frail veldt
i got 13 lucky coins in 2 minutes here <https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gZG...
where are you seeing lucky coin casts
vivid vessel
so
frail veldt
its not annoying cuase its exactly how i want it
I just meant annoying to do for every weak aura
gaunt phoenix
where are you seeing lucky coin casts
The hits
vivid vessel
I just meant annoying to do for every weak aura
i just copy paste
gaunt phoenix
lucky coin after the first deals damage
vivid vessel
not really a thing i did more than once
frail veldt
aaah its under hand of fate dropdown
got it
wait idgi
mine has no lucky coin casts
am I missing something rofl
gaunt phoenix
erm
frail veldt
I had 100% lucky coin buff for this fight
gaunt phoenix
link
frail veldt
ah
I had to go to damage done
for some reason
lucky coin isnt in the table
also wtf 12 in 2 minutes is INSANE haha
gaunt phoenix
17 stack tails 
gaunt phoenix
ye
frail veldt
wonder if you can fuck with it on the dummy
like restealth->finisher->restealth etc
and just stack to infinite?
gaunt phoenix
it stacks to 99
inland cairn
Highest I've been is 22
frail veldt
I gotta try that after work lol
gaunt phoenix
nice enchant
stiff vector
all the enchants kinda suck
prisma sapphire
my parses have sucked so far this season
doesn't help i'm like 7 ilvls behind the curve
but damn
i avg'd a 96 parse in M raid last tier, now i'm averaging a 81 parse in H raid this tier
copper radish
beating a frost DK in a key on overall feels so good
frail veldt
i avg'd a 96 parse in M raid last tier, now i'm averaging a 81 parse in H raid t...
have you updated your rotation for the new tier sets
prisma sapphire
yep
gaunt phoenix
i cant seem to parse on araz
not sure if it depends on the raid group more than yourself
stiff vector
its a shit show to parse on tbh
delicate seal
not sure if it depends on the raid group more than yourself
yea some grps have a lot of burst on them
when we ran a sub rogue they'd instant die
stiff vector
ln the tank in the heroic pug was fucking pulling the boss away from the add spawns too, it was so cooked
gaunt phoenix
nice
knotty abyss
radiant vessel
I dno how to even open on it as outlaw with the stealth break
hasty warren
really? im matching my sim
I had 4p this morning i'm still not use to it
hollow creek
cant pich between unyiealding netherprizm heroic or so'leahs secret technique mythic ,,,,, sim different but dont know whats best for m+ in the long run
mighty pivot
shindig was trying to lfr dimensius earlier today and it was quite the spectacle but they did kill it eventually (after a few wipes)
digital linden
yo anyone have the reshii wraps command to rank it up?
mighty pivot
blizzard overestimated lfr gamers with that one
vivid vessel
shindig was trying to lfr dimensius earlier today and it was quite the spectacle...
its ok i did it in 2 pulls
easy enough
mighty pivot
yo anyone have the reshii wraps command to rank it up?
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
digital linden
```/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFram...
tyvm
buoyant cosmos
its ok i did it in 2 pulls
for mog or the love of the game
vivid vessel
can the cloak be 730 today?
buoyant cosmos
yeah