#outlaw
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It sounds like in ST situations that's just how it has to be

But im betting there will be a close enough HO build for keys

tyler1 was id banned
futbol noises intensifies
And if not meh I only go to 3k anyways
not just temp banned
U underestimate my ball tracking capabilities
u can smell it ?
If it works like the delve power
you gotta step ovr a green circle on the ground
2x per proc
league doesnt id ban anymore
after some incidents with them banning entire school campuses bc shared ip & ofc hwid bans being useless
he wasnt hardware banned
@vivid vessel you'll update your dungeon wa this season ?
ye but they stopped entirely
damir was idbanned aswell
and some others
they just dont do it anymore
ok so i will absolutely at least TRY the KiR build tonight (you're right about the stats, i have 20% haste baseline in my HO build from gear) but is the current KiR builds on wowhead for outlaw the same as last tier or do I gotta go digging for the one from season 2>?
ye of course
xj9 way back when
its based on the popular one tho
pog
gn
7 hours
i mean ap0 can go onstream and not get banned what more evidence do you need
ya i dont doubt u, just saying that the t1 ban was differnet to the hopeful ban
Suuuuuu
With s2 4set u run sleight of hand
7 is enough
im a master baiter
Can you still get gilded crests from t11 delves?
y
Btw
Sick
bruh
Delves are useless to do immediately right
gotta schleep
Ya
Cause you can't use map
Like I can't use map till I level up or whatever
correct
Is that correct
Ye
Ok
Need level 2
So I ignore delve day one
thats ass
you gotta get to the 2nd node on the delve track
i got one from portal
I just m+
Interesting
fck delves
Zac what u playing in raid? Assa?
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
the ks wa is useless now no ?
Yes
these dun's feel way easier compared to last season start
For keys, is outlaw the worst of the 3 specs at the mo?
is there a skip for the campaign?
delve king, its 3 coffer keys a week yes?
How far do you have to go to access the skip
The very first quest after he walks over and spawns a portal in dorn
U go thru and get a cutscene then talk to him in the new city
The skip is an option right there
So the second quest ig
!fuu
weird I didnt see it
yeah I got the first cut scene where they walk through the portal
I've heard of many people getting boned by various bugs
Unlucky ig
I've skipped 3 alts already
how do I do it
maybe it thinks my main hasnt finished the campaign or something so I dont have the skip?
y
Well yea u gotta so the campaign on ur main to skip it lol
I mean
Aren't they all like thT
Ah yea maybe
I finished all of last week
u have to speak to the 4 legs guy in tazavesh
when u begin the campaign
Talk to the quest giver for the second quest tho
have u done all purple quests ?
ye
Doesn't look like it's locus walker
hmmm weird
guess im only playing rogue
Ur boned rip
super annoying bug for them to have
worst part is
I cant queue lfr
on that character
it isnt unlocked
until youve done campaign hahahaha
probably cant even do the raid
@glass mortar is the trickster cleave build for raid the same as it was in s2 with kir? like if i am still running s2 4p i take sleight over loaded?
I think u need the cloak
yeah that's what i thought
I should just say non tier loaded
Loaded is the default
U can only play sleight with s2 tier
ye
is trikster still playable in aoe scenario in raid ?
!fuu
also speaking of cleave vs st, what bosses are ST and which ones actually use trickster cleave?
i think it's encouraged/recommended actually
iirc (from the wowhead guide) the fb st build only pulls ahead in pure sT
nexus king have one phase with adds
therefore use trickster for everything else
Is KIR still the way to go ? Cause i dont wanna play HO in raid
Nobody rlly knows + it won't be that clean cause with 2set u might play fatebound even on cleave regardless of how cursed it is
Sim urself or just brainless follow logs after the raids been out for a few days angle
so 2 piece fb just kinda the general use kit until we get more data?
There's no clean answer

what do
there's no boss with constant aoe senario
More delve buffs????
STOP SHIFTING THE GOAL POSTS BLIZZ
raid trikets
Oh cringe hate those guys
is the screaming sky trinket sim bait? why is it simming so high...
probably because they tuned it 8 minutes ago
Tfw we don't even have our new bis trinket sims yet and wowhead posted the changes 9 minutes and 43 seconds ago
🥹
That's quite the gigabuff
!wa
Yeah everything is new and fresh, yuck.
last minute "let's double this trinket's effect"
except 3 times
cool i did not get vault tier 
no fatebound today
consider it a blessing
what kind of tuning is reducing the crit rating of the antenna by 3% anyway? that must be extremely minimal for the total value of the trinket
looks like screams just overtook antenna if the nerf is significant
@gaunt phoenix How does this look after the buff?
not a fucking clue
might be good
so....question
how does raidbots pull it's info?
b/c screaming sky trinket was simming WAY high before the tuning even got announced
@gaunt phoenix isnt fatebound better on ST even with current tier? sims decently more for me than trickster
yep
I have a feeling screams of a forgotten sky might now be on par with cosmic hunt
or just slightly behind...
whats the command
Just saw that epilogue cinematic
did moroes vanish?
They just took a voiceline from ana from overwatch and put it in there since the characters share a voice actor
!fuu
Gn outlawies
watch out for garrote
cost saving
Two words only when the voice actor is already recording shit for the character
Makes no sense
idk
Screams has the bonus of scaling with fight length, defintely the best trinket on longer mythic fights
fml got s2 vault and hero cloak from timewarped treasure
!fuu
moroes was killed by Hopefulx
what actually happened to hopefulx?
i saw the screenshots but wasn't sure if it was some meme or not
Are there any pvp outlaw streamers that have helpful UI's and weakauras?
200 days suspension or something
oh
He was ban because of he played on some friend account something like that from I understood
so hes out of the race?
Ye
conveniently came out the day a new tier started that he piloted for ID for their prog mugzee/gally kills
No
He just makes another account
Whqts our recommended first craft this tier?
What
Idk why he can just make another account though
mainhand, if you are set on outlaw
He piloted a mage old guild mate account during their prog cause he had pc issues
means more effort to catch up
Is the story
dawg ban evasion is illegal, you can do it but not when lizzard is watching a publically staged event
He did mug prog and killed gally for the guy
He’ll get caught insta
It's not ban evasion
It's allowed
Directly by blizzard
It's also the same shit for 99% of games out here
The ban is generaly for the account not the person
ye
in this case it's kind of weird though because he wasn't even playing the now-banned account when he broke TOS
I don't know a single game that practice IP ban outside of very specific cases
but yeah most games do let you make a new account just fine
Ye true I guess
did the other guy's account get banned as well?
Are we running fatebound tomorrow in raid (on some bosses), even without new 2 set?
But I assume it's a case per case thing for account sharing so they ban the accounts , they don't have automated ways to know anywya
Yes
Thank you!
fatebound is already good st
so plexus, fractillus, loomithar
you will probably fatebound already
ya
maybe its not that bad with fatebound 4pc
See you soon
some last minute dooming by zac before heading to bed for early gaming 
see you soon ❤️
Always
Fuels my nightmares
It's good
Just close your eyes your will surely Just fall asleep
off the top of ur head is there a big difference in fb ho vs kir with no current tier?
season 2 tier?
yeah season 2 tier
kir is like... 3% ahead or whatever
Kir is funnier so it s better 
says the retiree
Cool thank you
Tindral p1/2 and dausegne p3
Idk who liked that boss enough for it to be a core mechanic again but oh well
Dragonflying is lit
Get rid of flying mounts. Give us public transportation
i'd love to get the tram to dimensius p3
You saved my vault man
This is by far the most cursed pseudocode logic I’ve ever written. This spec isn’t real
Why is outlaw bis gear so different between icyveins and wowhead
cause bis lists are a lie and all that matters is what robot tells you to put on but the guide writers have to include it since it draws clicks
So for first crafts
wep
always wep
^
ez for nessa
how do i update weakauaras without reimpoting
!wa
!wa
!wa
moroes is taking a nap guys leave him be
Were huge boys
You making a WA?
can u share pls?
Our fatebound 2pc is prolly one of the strongest 2pcs in the tier
Meg the stallion?
UM4pc -> MO4pc seems kinda low, no?
Is this the new metric ppl use
Does Vanish just reset delve bosses if you're solo now?
Yes
if ur solo its always been able to do that
Welcome to Rogue in pve solo content
You Brann will feign death when you vanish sometimes
never had that happen but ive heard people say it so maybe
idk if its role dependent or what
also i got my first socket of the season lets goooooooooooo
I always have him tank as a healer
Tier pants ez
oh wait is gloves offpiece this season
they r both shit huh
more vers
i simmed higher with leg offpiece
2pc insane tho
compared to gloves
gloves maybe better ratio
but less stats
if u use glove offpiece
u end up with more mastery overall
if u use legs offpiece
Moar mast
what
u have more vers and less mast
i said gloves has better ratio
thats agreeing with u
that legs should be offpiece
can u share whole list
trying to teach u
Yes he was
i was just yapping
oh ok it sounded like u were fightin
no
im always down to fight
Vai its almost bed time
u wanna fight vai???
Punch him
have a good sleep cuh
thanks man
Ele sham gonna catch a nerf real soon
prob no more tuning until rwf is over
so u need change the entire tier? and not only 2/2
pins
They should tune right after NA gets a comfy lead in rwf

i crafted my weapn and im not looking back
No way back now
what talents do we use for Fb Ho 2+2 for m+ ?
Week 1 by the skin of my teeth
The look on your face
it's been a long night lmao
been away since thursday so hadn't had a chance to prog her till now
The vibes im getting
ahah yes, you'd be correct
got lucky with a lot of tier in my vault - what are the two pcs that would give most immediate benefit?
Chest for sure
forgive me if im not the first to complain but what in the fuck is this delve change? i cant use maps until ive done 2 million bountifuls? is there additional rep im missing? 8400/150 is 56 delves assuming minimum reward and no bonuses anywhere
i wanted to quickly go try for a trinket and ohp nvm i guess
i don't think it's 2 million
got the following trinket in vault, but cant see it mentioned any where. Looked pretty good when I read, but is it actually really bad in practice?
what piece out of the 5 are we not using for tier set?
probably whichever one has the most mastery
Prolly pants cuz u can get more vers from other ones
do we use the pinned ST build despiute not having new tier?
oh nevermind
it ltierall says need tie
i cant read

les go
So if we get 2pc should we play FB in m+ until we get 4pc or stick with trick
simit
Is there still a min haste for KIR?
yea same as always
Upgrades have tanked my haste % bad
plz lord release me from this hell
Sounds like they weren't upgrades
But just use a haste flask
has anyone else been having issues with killing spree perma slowing you after ending the cast early
epic win or no?
any tier is epic win
it would appear i have won, epicly
Tier set is poggeds
do yall go ST build or cleave build on souldbinder? i feel like the adds just melt sometimes
Def cleave.
ty new to rogue so wasnt sure
Break tier or replace with full set?
Anytime theres cleave, u always cleave.
off to a good start
Build CB and get that vanish ready for when the adds spawn and BtE!
Hey, what is opener now with both FB/KIR in raids and Trickster/KIR in keys now? (Outside AR and GS window) Just start SS or? Sorry, just returned after 3 years break, so trying to catch up, and just read that we don't ambush anymore either
check pins for FB opener
in keys it's mostly just pre-adr + rtb and then open with blade flurry on packs or ss on bosses
Basically you just do your normal rotation
Yeah, tried to catch up on it.. Was mostly thinking in keys when AR and GS on cd and just pack to pack.. If we just start SS (or even if re-stealthing or not is a huge dmg loss then)
Always restealth between packs
boy I sure love sweating my ass off playing this spec to do 3/4 the dmg of other specs lol
Underhanded Upper Hand means adrenaline rush doesn't go down while stealthed
generally even in sections where people usually mount up for travel time, you want to stay stealthed and use sprint + 2 grapple to keep up/overtake them
Ah, I see! Sweet, ty 🙂
Kill kill kill kill kill
(while sprinting in stealth you're faster than a mounted player anyways)
Cheers!
Have fun! The spec has changed a lot and not much at the same time over the last 3 years
Had that big change in df and nothing of note since
Thx! Yeah, mained it BFA-beginning of DF.. Tbh, I wasn't a big fan of the path.. Kinda lost the "Hey, I'm a pirate with extra yards and fun playstyle!" xD
Yeah losing acro sucks
outlaw hasnt been fun since BFA
That sounds awesome
What's wrong with that
I think it's fun, but I can't do more than 2 keys in a row without getting finger pain lo
Exactly.. It kinda went the other way after BFA imo
Aye
when should trickster outlaw break tier?
is weapon the best craft?
4pc
sim it but usually 4pc
ty kings
did the night fall vendor update with season start or is it still rng weapon
like you have to loot it from a bag still
for fatebound opener do you send a BTE before vanish with both charges up (assuming RP is up)
Uh probs FB honestly
Its equal at 2 target iirc
Or FB slightly favored
Idk how stacked the bosses are
but then intermission exists too
which is pure st
coin gamers
i played no gs trick and it didnt feel amazing
man i killed kyzeva in t11 delve she didnt give no map or extra crests
3 PIECES
scammed
one more guys....
on normal at least they're mostly 3 stacked
jump around a decent bit
and obv the st phase
What changed since BFA mainly that makes you feel less pirate?
Talent name convention
huh
wdym talent name convention
New talent names are more gunslinger/combatant esque
is there a macro for ghostly strike? i dont see any on wowhead like there usually is
wdym
you can macro it into a bunch of stuff with standard macros idt there'd be anything special
hmmm guess i craft my weapon
ive just never really macrod anything, what do you useually macro it to?
Isn't it neutral to do that anyway?
You can macro it to random shit iirc
I don't macro it bc it feels shit to press GS instead of a gcd when I have no energy even though I'm like 80% sure that's a dps loss
I think this is working properly now isnt it? giving the third combo point
or idk, what is giving me a 3rd cp?
We had stuff like Dispatch being "Run Through", Sinister Strike had a Pirate name too, an AoE Cannonball bombardment skill, and Curse of the Dreadblades
i miss old sinister strike
its a different talent
Saber Slash yeah
best part of playing vanilla is old sinister/evis animations/sounds. not this cartoony garbage we have now
oh yeah yorue right my bad
Imo I miss Pirate theme and Blizz should have stuck to their guns.
Cannonball Barrage would be awesome nowadays
But that wasnt working before with Destiny Defines right?
never had the impression that those talents weren't working
Probably not considering we have crackshot now lol
Ground targeting with modern outlaw would be aids
Plus the travel time
do i go m+ build for 3rd boss?
It could be improved as a PBAoE on enemy target
It could be modernized though
Just copy paste fdk breath and give it a new coat of paint lol
I used to really like Crackshot but nowadays I feel like Killing Spree fits that theme better
aoe on 3rd boss ? or st?
how
this 7 coin macro in the pins is the shit for pvp
crackshot is a whole layer of proc madness window for outlaw
kspree is 4 seconds of afking
that is a terrible replacement
Ah fuck I didn't consider that, it's definitely getting fixed
is this trinket sim bait?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=242403/perfidious-projector?bonus=4822:4786:1514:12297&hero=52&ilvl=704&spec=260
This epic trinket of item level 662 goes in the "Trinket" slot. It is looted from Nexus-King Salhadaar. In the Trinkets category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within.
I think he means thematically
it's simming the highest for me from raid
perhaps depends on how the haste on it slots into your gear
This dude is blowing up my DMs with 1000 reasons why I should call out sick and play wow lol
b/c I'm a little lower on haste than I should be by few thousand
I'm watching the clock
I still think there's a decent chance they lost the fatebound code and we're safe
I believe it
The way I had to understand how lucky coin must work to cause the 8 bug makes me annoyed
"Oh well"
takes a sip of Jamba Juice
-blizz employee
like my assumption is that if it was a literal one character changed they'd have fixed it, so the talent must be implemented as some kind of json/similar that doesn't make it that easy to fix
Forge weaver is the most outlaw boss of all time holy fuck
this raid makes me lag so hard
yep
also pumped on nexus king since its normal and we just skipped all the intermissions
Tier isn’t hero track right?
I think socket angle ngl
Since you can farm the trink on hero
trinket will be replaced in 5 microseconds if u do real content
if the tier piece is cursed cause of loot track might be a socket angle
Only thing worth taking really is hero tier
nope
hero trinket and hero track amazing delve trinkets thats about all worth taking ye
i dont think void touched fragment is particularly amazing but could sim it
i see
trick or fb for soul hunters
tbh honestly a socket isnt a bad pick
ITs bad now but u get a mythic helmet later and ur set
anyone have that list of which bosses are ST and which are cleave lol
or ur crafted bracers
guys
GUYZ
is it okay to use dagger in offhand?
Safe to say Soulbinder + Trickers works very well
which build do i play on nexus king
probs fb
anyone gigalagging
yes but im 30 man raiding so
cant really say its due to the instance
i hate this part of the season 
trying to play kir on ST on bosses with 0.5s delay
getting almost 0 lag tbqh
i got a tier piece but it didnt drop in bags and not in mail?
howlong does it usually take?
do we play same ST raid build as last season if we dont have new tier
bro is on that shareholder ping
ty!!
Whats the easiest delve this week?>
Bro
we cant get past through the first add
during the flying intermission
cuz it gigalags and the meteor kills us all

didnt they add the whole vote to end the key thing?
yeah but the ballot machines are run by elon musk
@austere mantle that trinket u were looking at is supposed to proc from spells only, i dont think rogue can proc it
ticking sack of terror is pumping for me
how do you do it
riff city baby
like solo
?!@#>?!?!@?#
boys did they set cap on gilded at 90 or 180?
it says 90
ty
idk i think its fine
ill try some tn
its kinda crazy
i can get 4pc today
one piece from raid, one from vault, then 2 cata charges
is that map thing fixed for delves 11?
what fix
something about not being able to use a map ?
Need lvl 2 journey
u cant drop or use a map today
!fuu
ohh i see
i mean you could today
maybe if you've been running delves nonstop since the moment servers opened
and managed to hit level 2 on ur delve seasonal track

timewalking reward can give you cloak lol
oh theres TW raid this week isnt there
doenst that give a hero track piece
or is it back to normal
hero
massive
MASSIVE INDEED
has any1 simmed everforged 720 vs unbound training claws 723? is it worth waiting or just send the craft
if you are set on outlaw then you send craft
god knows when you will get a mythic main hand
sure
fatebound KIR some fun stuff right now with 2pc
and then if you get mythic mainhand
yeah, i got multiple rogues if i need to play another spec
then your crafted item becomes your offhand
which is like the same as crafting any other slot
cool, long as it's not a killer long term and worth the investment just needed to know
ty brother
Tbh we’re not looking that bad in m+
I haven’t gotten beat yet by any classes but we haven’t seen with new tier
is it troll to use mana oils to get my haste reqs
Can you sim consumable lol?
!wa
It’s broken blu
thank god I'm not dumb
!fuu
y wuld it be troll
if ur not overshooting u arent wasting any stat efficiency
its not like the other weapon thingy is much stronger then secondaries
everyones weights r so close to primary now a day, even ours
its only troll in if u plan around playing like that u need consumes to reach ur haste cap everywhere or u will feel a little shitty
it was sooooo laggy for us bro even on our kill it was barely playable
Tier and boots from soul hunters
anyone try spawning kyvezah in delves?
is running 2pc 2pc fatebound in keys viable? I haven't been keeping up with stuff
sorry if this was already answered earlier
well I wasnt sure if the attack power is just more value
than crit/haste
WHAT WE craftin ?
viable yes, hard to say if it's better
since fatebound is so heavily skewed towards 1 target
I kinda want to try
!wa
I got a hero sac brood on my lock 😩
I did get tier gloves out of vault tho, huge
gg
should crowdfund fuu new laptop
do day 1 logs count
do we let killing spree rip for the full duration or stop it at max cp?
the kir build can stop it, it is about the same as letting it finish
should we run 2p 2p or keep 4p till 4p?
the idea counts
pins
fatebound uses 2pc immediately, trickster will have to sim
solo ill do a fatebound key rn

@gaunt phoenix do I take it or tier?
Can you just get hero football from delve?
get tier
you can get 4pc so fast this tier if u take that
if you yoink ONE tier from raid, you can get 4pc today
my vault not having tier is actually so dumb
Squidward looking outside window meme
i got normal chest tier, hero shoulders
Ohh can you just pick it up from a normal delve?
now i can have 2 catas
hero head in vault,solid. Lets see what raid brings later
worth? or do we use tier chest
we most likely take Tier piece in 99% of the case right?
i would take socket lol
hmm
need help picking
tier
gloves 100%
getting that piece out of vault means you only need one piece out of raid
b/c you have 1 cata charge now, you get another one for 2k / AOTC
got it got it ty
lucky
for the first time in my life ive waited 6 weeks to get myth dagger last season
no lies told
if i had one in bault i would 🥀
i have hands in vault, hero track
got tier on both of my other toons xd
big
my rog is in last place rn lol, but at least i got tier on main
looking like a socket angle methinks
They buffed bomb
mb if someone already let you know
Is there anything from ulduar worth trying to get?
UHhhh is zo'gron's shield waaaay too big
what level are you doing?
a mere 7
I think people will say just sim it
@gaunt phoenix fatebound is not worth 2pc2pc in keys
or
just dont fatebound keys
ever
just play old 4pc trickstert
!up
dang i didn’t think i was this bad
@vivid vessel lets see ur vault
YEP COMING ONE SEC
no tier rip, but what about this ring at start?
ah rip cuh
good ring
i got tier on both my chars 
the alt got 2 tier
if i dont get tier on main
i kill myself
fuck bro
i got tier in the wrong slots
gg
same, feelsbadman
huge
how do i upgrade cloak
what is the guide for crafting on outlaw this season?
Wep and rings
gg
Multiple ways to earn the threads, the contracts, m+, delves etc. Then talk to the guy who gave you the cloak to upgrade once you have 3/6/or 9 threads
so we craft myth weapon this week for sure no other options?
!up
ah ok so the cap just went up
is there any reason to do the last quests in the new zone

I guess it's dispensing time
tw box gg
twins? 
@fathom bramble should I put the old or new outlaw icon on my competition pistol?
old
The new one is cleaner but the old one is classic and has character
Alrighty
Getting it made as we speak
the neck and ring from taz is so nice
!prekey
wth me too
Ulduar Weekly was nice to me 
it wasnt to me
!up
LOOL
i am fuming with anger
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
how did u you know game?
i got 4 cloaks inside raid but i atleast got vers haste bracers from the chest
if i get a cloak on my main then im just gonna turn my computer off for the night
yo awang chill out

check loom cuh!
!up
What delve levels is best to do to try get good bomb and to use map?
Also for this do you need to actually open the chest in the delve?
No but it can drop in ddelve right?
!fuu
Outlaw isn't the only rogue spec
Stop being selfish
Every spec needs their stats
....
doesnt sub also use vers
I got the good bomb trinket in vault, it will still be good for ST until we get higher ilvl pieces right?
those guys dont deserve anything
i got this too
Im torn on crafting a weapon.
im
washed
i keep
having sub 95% adr
worst of the day so far
was 87%
im geniunely tweaking
and its not even like im getting fucked
Is anyone else crafting a sword?
im just playing bad
im crafting dagger
yea i thought about that
Swap to fb and it'll be 100%
Did you ever kill that delve boss
yeah
54 attempts
but it doesnt matter
i didnt beat zac
so its not cool
if u craft a sword ill craft a sword... haha
yeah theres decent chance for either
dagger offhand seems like the go anyways this season
i dont think omen is out yet or whatever ssoo
so either way its good
second pin
How do the trinket buffs and nerf impact outlaw?
pins
here is how much you lose with trickster with 2p/2p
here is with fatebound
If only they loaded on my phone
i guess i should learn fatebound for pugging raids this week then
wtf I thought you got tier token for 2k its just another catalyst charge, scammed
Well well well.. No tier set but trinkets..
i would take coins
dosent look promising for me as outlaw in raid
really i been pumping i think
Look at met taking socket W1 and jumping out of a window
I took sockets w1 and w2 of season2
yes
complete delve
open bountiful chest gives 300 always
weekly key is 1500
so
unless you got a shit ton of keys
!up
delve maps aint gonna be accessable until later
You beat tettles
i love the smell of bis stats in the morning
fuk me im alrdy valorstone capped but I dont wanna waste crests yet
now i dont regret late night delves
yeah....






