#outlaw

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gaunt phoenix
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either one mate

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they are similar

glass mortar
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i get weird scaling im just confused how it can sorta crush (relative obviously) gushing on dslice

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when it appears to get outscaled by gush up to 5 targets

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and it also loses st

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even if its very close

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i guess dslice has larger target counts then 5t

storm drum
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so gushing then lol its a styx prog week

gaunt phoenix
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i mean gushing is a dot

glass mortar
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i doubt u will be able to measure the difference in the minor enchants in real gameplay

gaunt phoenix
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in slice im sure at some of it loses value to mob death

storm drum
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kk so it doesnt matter i umm just want to farm visions as little as possible tbh

glass mortar
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ooo true its not a short dot is it

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its like 8s or something

gaunt phoenix
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7s

glass mortar
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yea that makes more sense

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think im gunna go gush cba with twilight dev

fathom bramble
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I bet twilight dev doesn't hit gally

civic void
glass mortar
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wouldnt surprise me

storm drum
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umm so after i turned in the quest and bought the enchants

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this mug isnt offering the upgrades to teh sanity system any more?

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i was only able to buy 3 of them lol

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or is this intended

fathom bramble
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gotta wait till next week lol

glass mortar
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they are timegated

fathom bramble
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it says week2 if you mouseover the next ones

storm drum
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it doesnt do that for me lol

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so the first row is all we can bnuy this week?

gaunt phoenix
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ya

past sphinx
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Wtf they actually time gated it?

tight kernel
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no we are making it up

icy cedar
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has anyone done solo 5 masks yet this week

glass mortar
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dont think its possible with the currently available talents

icy cedar
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i only had a single extra life at the end of one mask, i don't think i can handle 5

wicked obsidian
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i think every normal dev is only working on major patches. all small patches and bugfixes are done by AI or trainees... seems all of them are a kind of mess in tww. also the island in last patch was awful

icy cedar
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lol AI isn't making entire patches... yet

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I'm not opposed to that future though

wicked obsidian
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yes that what i mean 😉

icy cedar
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if it just means more content

glass mortar
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at least AI might do QA

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🥹

icy cedar
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I'm surprised so many of my guildies are struggling with 0 mask full clears O-o, they're straight running out of time

brave lagoon
glass mortar
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so close

limpid plank
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its this

brave lagoon
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only hc track tho so it's poo poo

limpid plank
glass mortar
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ate a beam while kspreeing

rotund pulsar
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if i pick echoing i can change it yeah?

hollow temple
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Echoing is bugged tho

hollow portal
gaunt phoenix
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aww yeah 1% damages

vivid vessel
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why only 1%

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sims says 2.6

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is it a lie

halcyon tangle
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hi, im trying to learn outlaw but KS keeps killing me multiple times in dungeons

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an ytips?

gaunt phoenix
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thats the Greater version

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this week is lesser only

last scarab
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and echoing void still bugged?

gaunt phoenix
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Yes

gaunt phoenix
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if you fear death

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like Dfc 3rd boss

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or floodgate last boss

calm osprey
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Do I understand correctly that for KiR builds, the rules for using Opp procs don't change inside subterfuge windows? Unlike with HO builds

gaunt phoenix
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that is correct

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although the broadside thing is less impactful

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like sending opp at 2cp with broadside is not losing much dps in stealth

calm osprey
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tyvm solo

pliant wind
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the evasion guy in the rookery is a joke

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literally i couldnt use killing spree

vivid vessel
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what

gaunt phoenix
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evasion guy?

pliant wind
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i had it like 3 times

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is a mob that get bug and in constant evasion

vivid vessel
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you snapped mobs down ?

gaunt phoenix
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oh

pliant wind
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is the caster at the left behind the bird

pliant wind
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but idk if thats the issue

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ah is in the first pull btw

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it happened to me like 3 or 4 times

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if some mob is in evasion u cant use KS

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:/

gaunt phoenix
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yea its weird

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anything nearby evading breaks ks

frail veldt
pliant wind
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6M in that pull KEKW

wicked obsidian
# frail veldt thats not how AI is used as a devleoper

don't take it too serious.... what i mean it's half finished and they are always using some strange numbers in balancing... i mean you can choose an npc supporter and it will makes the vision incredibly harder... come on...

frail veldt
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My guess right now is they stalled tuning to help the teams create the 1 button rotations

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and rotation helper

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because tuning that impacts rotation could throw a wrench in that work

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which is why we saw so little changes/reworks this season

torpid fiber
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ai is mostly cringe but this isn't an ai problem

Blame AI for stuff that it actually fucks up not for stuff that it isn't related to, because otherwise you seem like you don't understand what you're criticising

red zinc
frail veldt
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"code written by AI" is super misleading, if youre in vscode with copilot and you start typing a line even just for an if statement itll complete it for you half the time and you can just press tab. The code was "technically" written by AI but its the same as trying to say your texts are all written by your phone cuz you used autocorrect...

red zinc
frail veldt
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which is very different from "vibe coding" where you literally just talk to an AI and tell it to make shit for you

hollow temple
frail veldt
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and thats more for building stuff from the ground up very quickly not for contributing to a large already established project

wicked obsidian
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ya clear, sorry to blaming AI. i am really not expierenced with that. only tried ChatGPT several times. works so far ok but it brings you only properly 20% to the point what your really like to have. But for sure it's great for researching APIs or Algorithm what you properly searching for. But za changed from programming into sales already 8 years ago...

red zinc
torpid fiber
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vibe coding is for people who think they can sell their startup before the security vulnerabilities are discovered

hollow temple
frail veldt
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tbh its really good for super quickly building a PoC

red zinc
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my security is vulnerable

frail veldt
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esp if you like need to make a bunch of throwaway code like a framework to test something else

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I HEAVILY use AI code assistants when writing sql shit for databricks cuz cba learning all that nonsense

torpid fiber
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Yeah I have to use chatgpt for an assignment and it's both really cool and also unbelievably frustrating that my marks depend on how well I can scream at a model to fix the unit tests it made

frail veldt
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"hey chat gpt, why is my WSL python environment broken again"

torpid fiber
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it can't figure out how to test private classes except sometimes randomly it magically does fix them

frail veldt
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google is pretty worthless nowadays compared to chatgpt for general technical quick searches

torpid fiber
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Yeah I use gpt now if the first page of google results isn't useful

wicked obsidian
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i tried to make a Outlaw Mid Season Summery and Wishlist with chatgpt-> It cames up withe the energy problem, but tells that KS is such a great spell... so ... it triggered some doubts to me ...

frail veldt
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yeah remember all chat gpt is sourcing from is random siht posted online

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which includes all the apes on the forums who wish they would "bring back combat" and who also many love killing spree

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people want to auto attack for the meters its insane

wicked obsidian
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sure there are also people who are paying insane amount of money for mythic or even heroic kill and log off the complete season... hardly to understand that

hybrid crown
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is echoing void still bugged

gaunt phoenix
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YEs

violet ferry
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Yeah, it's bad

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Swapped to Twilight Devastation to see how it does

winter nacelle
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do we replace circlet yet? seeing people not using it anymore

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Guess i just craft a ring

gaunt phoenix
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a good vers ring should beat it

winter nacelle
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haste vers or

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just any heavy vers?

gaunt phoenix
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any vers

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haste depends if you need haste

winter nacelle
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at 17% atm

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so prob good right?

dense bolt
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depends what talent setup u running

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but also just sim

winter nacelle
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i swapped to kir cus its simming slightly better

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but i play both i just dont know which

gaunt phoenix
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kir wants 19% haste

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HO is flexible with haste

winter nacelle
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kk ty

dense bolt
gaunt phoenix
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Haste buffs are multiplicative and then additive

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so like

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with the 5% from alacrity

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19.05% base haste gets to 25%

winter nacelle
gaunt phoenix
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because 19.05 * 1.05 + 5 = 25

remote pike
dense bolt
winter nacelle
royal hollow
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what is this betrayal

royal hollow
dense bolt
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if kir was placed better for ho to take

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i would prob play ho more

frank finch
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do we just use twilight devestation i nthe mean time

dense bolt
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but this rng rtb simulator on ho is killing me

gaunt phoenix
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Tdev or gushing

remote pike
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am i stupid? what is tdev? gushing? twillight?`

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twillight is that cudgel effect?

gaunt phoenix
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twiliight dev

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astation

remote pike
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oh wait im EU

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i get it now

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new tech is not yet unlocked for us 😄

gaunt phoenix
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we are NA bugtesters

proven ocean
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wtf is this place

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???????????????????

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gallywix's villa

gaunt phoenix
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that's the goblin starting zone

remote pike
gaunt phoenix
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not that but rather the echoing void corruption seems bugged up

remote pike
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oh, so not performing as it should?

proven ocean
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guiys

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are visions up in EU already

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??

remote pike
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dont know im gonna go sleep, visions can wait

dense bolt
remote pike
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but i assume it'll be in the morning and not yet

glass mortar
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ok

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i have a new tinfoil

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i need to start keeping score more

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just did a rookery 12

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i got 22 1 buff rolls

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and 4 5 buffs

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the entire key

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what is happening

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time to re-equip all gear and retalent sleight

fluid mesa
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Good evening, which corruption to use in Outlaw

gaunt phoenix
haughty moat
tough ridge
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echoing is fixed apparently

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from sin channel

gaunt phoenix
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nice

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added proper proc flags

old gull
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yay vanish resets the vision bosses....

wintry solar
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Isn't there an npc you can tricks?

glass mortar
gaunt phoenix
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apparently

gaunt phoenix
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magnet good and popular trinket

sharp hinge
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really?

gaunt phoenix
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ya

sharp hinge
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is it weird to use?

gaunt phoenix
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no you just press it

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and you can flex it

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like hold for vulnerability windows

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because of the stacking mechanic

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is cool

copper radish
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heroic box this week so clutch

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and of course i got a geargrinder and i already have it >.>

marble crescent
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!wa

errant terrace
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do we know why the mid-expansion retrospectives happened? like did wowhead ask? or blizzard? or was it just a community thing?
it's great though don't get me wrong, just curious if anyone knows

copper radish
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is the ancient scroll quest bugged?

wanton parcel
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What’s out bis helm enchant for m+?
Can’t win rn at the gym

errant terrace
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echoing void

sharp hinge
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echoing void

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for everything

lime linden
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is there some sort of vanish macro that can help prevent resets when doing solo content

gaunt phoenix
latent belfry
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oh

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why is twilight simming higher then xd

wanton parcel
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Thanks

scarlet drum
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What was wrong with echoing void?

cinder relic
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and then the class writers said "yep okay"

latent oak
errant terrace
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chomping at the bit for the outlaw release

wintry solar
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Yeah I've been waiting for a while

cinder relic
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I mean don't get your hopes up, I've been writing editorials about killing spree for a long time

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Just a fun writing exercise, and a fun reading experience for the readers

wintry solar
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No I know. It's just nice to see articles out there pertaining to issues of the spec I play.

copper radish
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i would love to read a popo "state of outlaw" write up

wintry solar
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You would not

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It would boil down to CP bloat and energy issues

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I can't even word it right. It would be a terrible mess.

sharp sand
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anyone figured out which enchant is best for helm

strong cargo
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Echoing void

sharp hinge
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people are saying its bugged though?

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and to go with twilight dev or gushing rn?

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not sure if thats the play

proven ocean
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its fixed

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cuh

sharp hinge
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are you lying

proven ocean
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why would i be lying

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OMG PURE CONTENT

sharp hinge
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idk

proven ocean
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LETS LIE TO A RANDOM CHATTER

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SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

sharp hinge
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trying to get those ez parses

unborn basin
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🤣

proven ocean
sharp hinge
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idk

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just giving you a hard time

proven ocean
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im not having a hard time

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ur overthinking the enchant alot

runic bough
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The universe may answer our prayers?

proven ocean
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its not bugged

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e

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q

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u

desert tendon
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you re a hard time for us all zero

proven ocean
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i

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p

glass mortar
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it was zeross

proven ocean
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it

desert tendon
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cuz you too good for us

glass mortar
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it was fixed like 15m ago

runic bough
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Z

glass mortar
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in the pins tho

runic bough
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E

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R

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O

runic bough
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S

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S

desert tendon
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check that

proven ocean
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said that it was fixed

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idk what ur on about

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but ok

proven ocean
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plz

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its kinda annoying

runic bough
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Z
E
R
O
S
S

proven ocean
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ngl

desert tendon
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real stop spamming

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we re educated here

proven ocean
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yes

desert tendon
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we type full sentence

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then press enter

runic bough
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Ok

glass mortar
desert tendon
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well i macroed my coma

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to my enter

runic bough
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I mean okay

glass mortar
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i just got out of a key cuh

desert tendon
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so

glass mortar
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all i saw was

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u saying ur overthinking it its not bugged

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mb

runic bough
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yap mode enabled

proven ocean
glass mortar
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we were both correct

proven ocean
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so was what u did what was wis is what

glass mortar
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i agreed with u

haughty wigeon
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twlight dev

glass mortar
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i just glanced at discord as i exited a key

haughty wigeon
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is the best one

proven ocean
haughty wigeon
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cause it looks cool

glass mortar
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and just saw the recent chat

haughty wigeon
proven ocean
haughty wigeon
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echoing void is lamege

proven ocean
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glance yap here

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cuh

haughty wigeon
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its just circles

proven ocean
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shjeeeeeeesh

haughty wigeon
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imagine doing circles

desert tendon
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dont spam gif

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specially cat gif

proven ocean
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I LOVE THAT CAT

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MAN

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I WANNA EAT IT

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AND

desert tendon
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that s reserved to assa channel

proven ocean
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COOK IT FOR DINNER

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CUZ I LOVE CATS

desert tendon
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zero i dont like you

random stirrup
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?

desert tendon
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that s why i dont wanna cook you

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i guess

proven ocean
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i like you too

desert tendon
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but you re anyway already cooked

proven ocean
desert tendon
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even burnt from your smelly ideas

proven ocean
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dont question mark me ?!

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cuh

desert tendon
proven ocean
desert tendon
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CUH

random stirrup
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bro eating cats

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??

proven ocean
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wdym its normal

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??

random stirrup
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???

proven ocean
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u eat the things u love the most

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no cappi

runic bough
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Well usa people live in a bubble

runic bough
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They don't know that we can eat cats

runic bough
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Yup yup

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Guys I have some urgent news

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ALERT ALERT ⚠️ CALLING ALL OUTLAWS WORLDWIDE

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I'm changing back to outlaw role

runic bough
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That is all

haughty wigeon
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you are weak

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you dont hold true to your ideals

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of hating killing spree

white marten
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We never RtB inside subterfuge right?

runic bough
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Well im not learning another spec and I want to get into high keys ffs

sharp hinge
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so do we just need to do a 8 mask for the enchant or how does that work

cinder relic
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My opinion is just 1 dudes opinion

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I don't think inherently, the devs should just listen to my vision of the spec after all

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A lot of you likely wouldn't like my version of the spec

runic bough
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Guy I have suggestion for new role

runic bough
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Anti-Killingspree should be a role.

sharp hinge
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so do we just need to do a 8 mask for the enchant or how does that work

tender wedge
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but short answer, no

cinder relic
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so

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GS as well

lime lake
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based

tender wedge
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picante

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what's the spec do

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that's pretty much every well received change in the last 2 xpacs undone lol

wintry solar
cinder relic
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KiR is the definition of what ion said about weakauras and complicated rotations

wintry solar
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That is true

cinder relic
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It's a very quirky talent with a lot of dumb things about containers etc

sullen wyvern
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but I have fun with it

wintry solar
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We have some things in common

desert tendon
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when he talked about it, i dont think about kir but about rtb already being too much for non weakauras

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kir is just another layer on top of it

lyric steeple
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which head enchant is better for us?

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is it still echoing void?

proven ocean
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@desert tendon cuh

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im following u soon idk if i told u

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no wow

desert tendon
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zero ntw

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btw

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how was the gardening session?

proven ocean
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oh LOL

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i meeeeaaan

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we didnt time any key

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unfortunately

desert tendon
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and wdym no wow

random geyser
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Someone was telling me Echoing Void was bugged is it still considered bis?

desert tendon
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you cant leave

proven ocean
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i have a job interview soon, once i get the due date im out

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it'll be gg

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i cant play wow and work at the same time

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cuz i always play wow after midnight

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never before

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so it's kinda the end soon you could say

desert tendon
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what zac will become alone?

desert tendon
random geyser
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@cinder relic thx ❤️

desert tendon
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yea i was about to answer

runic bough
proven ocean
desert tendon
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he aint playing with casuals u noob

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you re already a random no name casual shitty player

lyric steeple
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so echoing void is bis for both aoe and single?

sharp sand
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^^^ this???

sullen wyvern
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echoin void is doing shit damage

runic bough
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Hmm

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Thats normal

sullen wyvern
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like actual dogshit damage

sharp sand
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infinite stars looks cool

copper radish
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just saw we getting a new belt in .7.... blizz loves borrowed power lmao

surreal flower
copper radish
desert tendon
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looks like void ritual is better for sub in aoe by 1%, might be the same for outlaw but idk i havent follow any of this stuff since i m freeeee

bright crane
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so what corruption are u guys getting first

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can i just buy any one after doing the quest?

sullen wyvern
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might as well meme around with other stuff

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like tendrils

bright crane
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oh wait echoing void is fixed

random geyser
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@past sky The sim uses first trinket first and then alternates them on cooldown

past sky
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oh right

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ive never had a signet before, for some reason i thought it was passive

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double on use, hmm

random geyser
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yeah been there screw that lol

past sky
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yeah i'll take the socket instead

runic bough
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I have a new copy pasta coming up

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I will write it when I get homes

frank finch
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im simming alot higher then yesterday, what has changed

thorny zinc
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r we sure this is fixed

random stirrup
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but impossible to make a perfect version that everyone would like

sullen wyvern
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its minor enchant and it isnt supposed to do crazy damage anyways

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feels like shit right now

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but what else could we get tbh

thorny zinc
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I just mean twilight dev was like 1.8%

haughty wigeon
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is to far

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:(

frank finch
tight kernel
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I saw pin, but echoing fix frfr?

wintry gate
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why is EV doing poop damage

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wtf

cinder relic
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cuz corruptions dont do that much dmg

safe pasture
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ok hear me out. how we feel about the engineering helm for ho tho

wintry gate
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its doing significantly less than any other atm

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IS is doing 2x more and gushing is doing 3x more

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something is up

frank finch
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the other could be bugged postivly

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idk

wintry gate
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someone in guild is saying might be bugged but duno if they have a source

violet ferry
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Yeah echoing is definitely still broken - I swapped from Echoing to Twilight Dev and then back when someone said that Echoing was fixed - it isn't doing very much damage

frigid pelican
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So does it truly matter what we pick for the lesser runes?

hollow temple
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do we know the proc rate for twilight dev?

hollow temple
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can change them whenever, and we get the greater versions in a couple weeks

wintry solar
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A couple weeks...

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I swear it feels like the only time to play is at the end of the season

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With the way they drip feed content

haughty wigeon
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idk

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its procing like crazy tho

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in my mythic nylotha mog run

wintry solar
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Does our cloak work in visions?

hollow temple
frigid pelican
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Thanks trickz

hollow temple
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so maybe TD is bugged

frank finch
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td it is until further notice

gaunt phoenix
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low rppm effects can just high roll

glass mortar
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that looks high roll af

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was the same way with real corruptions tho

hollow temple
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ok i wasn't sure if it was fixed ppm

glass mortar
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people playing TD and stars just praying for a highroll

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it should be hasted since its damage doesnt scale with haste

hollow temple
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i don't have any of the info to look at for proc rates/whether they're hasted etc

gaunt phoenix
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it's 1 rppm hasted

hollow temple
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but i've seen multiple things now where TD is doing 3-4%

sharp sand
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do u drop GS for vexie

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for more cleave or na

gaunt phoenix
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1 rppm is notoriously swingy

hollow temple
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i see

cedar kernel
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brothers, a chinese sis asking how long does Eyes of kezan buff last to be better than other trinket in M+

tight kernel
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aye your boy got a r1 mug on heroic KEKW

white marten
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i would love for KIR and Crackshot to be removed.

glass mortar
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i was chatting with saeldur about eyes usage in MDI and he said if it averages at least 12 stacks over a dungeon its probably bis

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but he also TCs for specs with like, good stat scaling/trinkets and masteries

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so for us who knows

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id guess its higher then that, maybe 15+?

cedar kernel
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peepostudy i see

tight kernel
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oh pin got removed

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so echoing void dog still or not

fathom bramble
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considering how bad mastery is for us you probably need it to be doing a bit more than just slightly above a stat trinket in agi

glass mortar
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yea thats y i was feeling 15+

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maybe even higher then that tho tbh

fathom bramble
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probably close to 15/16 just based on the average value of agi/mastery

cedar kernel
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ty brothersgarf_sit

gaunt phoenix
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where pin go

copper radish
tight kernel
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idk someone trollin solo

fathom bramble
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another kezan consideration is that it ramps up so if the points where you are likely to be at 0 stacks are the most important parts of whatever key you might be doing then it's kind of aggressively bad

desert tendon
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@wintry solar why am i here watching a 100% tp

rotund zodiac
#

new pin gone?

cedar kernel
#

we got trolled

#

i thought Echo faded

wintry gate
#

duno im testing all

wintry solar
#

What's the wr?

wintry gate
#

so far gushing and appdenages have been best for me, but im playing sin atm on mugzee

wintry solar
#

Do you know?

wintry gate
#

EV is just not doing much at all

desert tendon
#

currently the leaderboard

#

i m watching Marco rn

#

only 6h but also it s not randomised and they do big sequence breaks

wintry solar
#

This may be my call to fame

#

Is there one without sequence breaks?

#

100% glitchless I guess

desert tendon
#

that s a anymethod 100%

#

i shared

#

on gamecube, cuz on wii it s just messed up

peak dock
#

small question

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are greater corruptions enchants obtainable atm?

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or only lesser ones?

wintry solar
#

Rats I don't have a gamecube

desert tendon
#

what ya think, it s all emulators

celest cobalt
#

Priory, 2nd boss, whats the correct way to cloak the orbs?

desert tendon
#

and at least on gamecube the game is normal, not mirrors with stupid right handed link !

rotund zodiac
wintry solar
#

I like right handed link! (I grew up with right hand link)

rich moon
#

on the sprocketmonger mythich should I just take KS off?

gaunt phoenix
#

you should be fatebound

desert tendon
#

i loved the wii and i spent hours on tp / ss. But i grew with link to the past sooooooooooooooo

runic bough
#

I have a dream.... that this oppression between killingspree and outlaw players worldwide will cease to be.... I have a dream where the powers vested in humankind that we shall be under the threat of killingspree.... I have a dream that is so crystal clear, just imagine the time we had before our oppressor came to power... I have a dream to return every outlaw player who has fled and requested refuge in other classes... I have a dream that those who are still here undergoing the oppression still to this day, that they are repaid for their time of suffering... this day grows nearer and nearer... that is my dream. So shall it be, I have a dream... to end this genocide one day... that day we can say that we are finally free.. We are free at last!!! Thank god almoghty we are free at last!!!!

-Ryukage Luther King Jr

sharp hinge
#

these stats are looking delicious

gaunt phoenix
#

@glass mortar twilgiht dev is not simming correctly

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this is fun ! ! !

glass mortar
#

Xd

gaunt phoenix
#

it's supposed to do progressively less dmg

#

but instead it would 200k to each target in sim

sharp hinge
desert tendon
#

french

#

mois for months, ans for years

sharp hinge
#

ahhh

#

anyone have issues with the game freezing when tabbing out of the game?

#

and any fixes?

runic bough
#

Set your game in full screen windowed mode

#

Full screen can be glitchy when alt tabbing

limpid plank
#

!macro

ornate heathBOT
#

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

sharp hinge
radiant root
gaunt phoenix
#

Corruptions part 2

The performance of corruptions is looking a bit different than projected so we kind of have 3 choices while the dust settles.

items_echoingvoid Echoing Void was thought to be ideal though the proc rate is bugged even after the hotfix yesterday. For now don't use it

items_twilightdevastation Twilight Devastation looks good so far though it does have 1 rppm so there is a lot of variance with its proc rate. It should have the highest damage ceiling if you get lucky. However it has a long range and will definitely ninjapull mobs if it travels into them.

items_gushingwound Gushing Wound is pure single target, should be similar to Twilight on ST and is consistent damage. It's a safe option and priority damage is still good in keys, however minimal it may be.

Lesser Corruptions are supposed to be worth like 0.7-1.5% dps, so we're kind of splitting hairs at the current difference between them. IMO, go with Gushing for now.

Update <t:1747839660:R> Let's go Gushing cause ninjapulling sucks

violet ferry
#

Twilight Devastation is doing 2x + what Echoing Void did

hollow temple
#

twilight dev pog

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echoing void rip, we hardly knew ye

frank finch
#

i would like my 1000 coins back for swapping twice

haughty wigeon
#

I TOLD U

#

we did it guys, we finally minmaxed the best lesser corruption

hollow temple
#

!

haughty wigeon
#

DA F U MEAN TOLD U NOTHING

gaunt phoenix
#

hopefully the pin captures all possible questions

hollow temple
bright crane
#

Does tdev pull mobs?

sharp hinge
#

it pulls female night elves

runic bough
# sharp hinge it is

turn off nvidia reflex+boost i doubt you have an nvidia monitor they are very rare these days.

haughty wigeon
#

itsa few style beam, havent done content with it yet

haughty wigeon
#

but it always had that problem in bfa

vapid sundial
sharp hinge
#

i dont think it goes all that far

#

if mobs are super close, sure

haughty wigeon
#

wtb greater td

vapid sundial
vapid sundial
#

Is the problem

sharp hinge
#

ret pally in waycrest manor all over again

vapid sundial
#

Tol dagor.

gaunt phoenix
#

member some spot where we would blade flurry shit through the floor

vapid sundial
#

That was happening in df right

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Or something similar

gaunt phoenix
#

In waycrest

sharp hinge
#

yessir

vapid sundial
#

In temple of jade serpent

#

It happens too

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On the bridge going into 2nd boss

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Idk if outlaw does it but ret was

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Iirc

hard nimbus
#

is there reason people prefer KIR over HO in top keys? my sims keep saying to go with HO even with enough haste for KIR

vapid sundial
#

Skill expression

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Find it more fun

#

Can mitigate dogshit rolls

craggy barn
#

kir does more in bigger aoe pulls

wintry solar
#

Bragging

fathom bramble
#

kir is better in high keys when played well

sharp hinge
#

its also a lot harder to play and track

#

(subjective though)

vapid sundial
#

I think that just means into skill expression

#

But ye

sharp hinge
#

lul

gaunt phoenix
#

i actually dont want to see that

late swallow
#

Cringe

proven ocean
runic bough
proven ocean
#

Wheres ur freedom of speech

sharp hinge
#

can we delete the cringe comment too

late swallow
#

Censorship is insane

proven ocean
#

Arent u in america solo guy

gaunt phoenix
#

xd

runic bough
#

something vanished

#

POOF

vapid sundial
#

What was it

#

I must know

hard nimbus
#

ok thanks for ans

vapid sundial
#

I looked away for one second..

wintry solar
#

I loom away for 2 seconds

vapid sundial
#

Legit man

sharp hinge
#

the killing spree mlk bs

proven ocean
runic bough
proven ocean
#

I delete msg cuz i wanna rotating_skull

runic bough
wintry solar
#

What was it

#

I just wanna know

proven ocean
#

Literally nobody knows

late swallow
#

It’s one of ryu’s banger pastas

proven ocean
#

Even solo

vapid sundial
#

P sure

wintry solar
#

Imma need the sauce

runic bough
hollow temple
late swallow
#

The mlk pasta was one of the best ones

wintry solar
#

Amazing

late swallow
#

On par with the SA killing spree one

runic bough
#

hahaha

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
#

My discord window size is super smooshed

vapid sundial
late swallow
#

Ryu is a modern day langston hughes

gaunt phoenix
#

so that message is half the screen

fathom bramble
proven ocean
#

Ryu is cooked out the wazoo no one can argue about that

runic bough
#

oh wow still on your phone at this time Solo?

proven ocean
fathom bramble
#

right

sharp hinge
#

here yall go, new copy paste

vapid sundial
#

Loktark used to be a community figure back in the day

proven ocean
fathom bramble
runic bough
#

Wow that was long

late swallow
#

Bro what

gaunt phoenix
#

nope

runic bough
#

something pvp

hollow temple
sharp hinge
#

hey that was a good one

wintry solar
sharp hinge
#

chat gpt wrote it for me

runic bough
vapid sundial
#

Yall are fighting rn

heavy sable
#

anyone have a WA for when nightfall is equipped in OH

vapid sundial
#

Lmao

runic bough
#

EVERYONES MESSAGES ARE VANISHING

vapid sundial
#

It's been so long

sharp hinge
#

solo wants killing spree secretly

wintry solar
#

Can we filter "Chatgpt"

wintry solar
proven ocean
#

Ryu idk what made u come here in class discords

runic bough
#

yo zeross

proven ocean
#

Everytime u come here i feel like ur trying to benefit the opposite of what u should be

sharp hinge
vapid sundial
#

I honestly think Ryu is the most cooked person I've ever met

proven ocean
#

Type opposite of what everyone wants to hear

runic bough
#

Im for the outlaw community

frail veldt
#

these visions are confusing as fuck

#

like wtf is the goal here

#

hahahaha

#

I never played this xpac

#

I am so lost

proven ocean
#

hahahaha

vapid sundial
#

Kill the elites

frail veldt
#

what fucking elites

wintry solar
#

Get to the end

vapid sundial
#

Open up map

frail veldt
#

I can go kill sylvanis over and over

vapid sundial
#

Get to boss

frail veldt
#

map just has a bunch of eyes

proven ocean
frail veldt
#

eyes have random ads

#

I kill all adds

proven ocean
#

kazzakdent mewo

runic bough
gaunt phoenix
#

you do the objectives in the eye zones to get more rewards at the end

wintry solar
frail veldt
#

can I just spam kill sylvanis til I get enough rep or whateve rhte fuck were earning?

frail veldt
vapid sundial
#

Probably slower

frail veldt
#

is that what the insanity mechanic is

runic bough
#

wot

vapid sundial
#

Yes

gaunt phoenix
#

it is a race against you losing sanity

late swallow
#

The absolute state of modern wow

wintry solar
wintry solar
#

Does the bfa cloak work?

late swallow
#

Mfs are stressing about doing stuff they don’t even understand

runic bough
#

Im pretty sure only 2 outlaws enjoy killingspree and 1000's never wanted it.

gaunt phoenix
#

also doing the eyes makes alleria harder at the end

haughty wigeon
haughty wigeon
#

but i understood it sucked balls

vapid sundial
wintry solar
#

You're one of the 2

proven ocean
# frail veldt is that what the insanity mechanic is

Insanity is like shooting, everytime u beat ur hotdog u get some juice outside and the hotdog becomes cooked, the longer it cooks the less it can handle so u gotta finish it fast before it starts feeling wiggly so u gotta finish the scenario before u die

sharp hinge
wintry solar
#

Insanity is like shooting, everytime u beat ur hotdog u get some juice outside and the hotdog becomes cooked, the longer it cooks the less it can handle so u gotta finish it fast before it starts feeling wiggly so u gotta finish the scenario before u die

gaunt phoenix
#

@frail veldt currently you need to do 8 eyes total to finish the quest to get lesser corruptions

#

Idk what you will need to do get greater corruptions

craggy barn
#

lesser dev is huge!

haughty wigeon
craggy barn
#

first boss top lol

haughty wigeon
#

thats a big post youve made in wowgeneral draco

craggy barn
#

10

sharp hinge
haughty wigeon
#

probably better as a forum post than something here

#

ngl

vapid sundial
#

I like how all of this is said but all you really need to say is

#

Remove killing spree

runic bough
#

im tired of seeing 20k ks hits

haughty wigeon
#

devs read those

proven ocean
#

Ryucooked

runic bough
#

20K killingspree hits on top of dying from it.

harsh forge
#

i didnt even get to read it

vapid sundial
harsh forge
#

TLDR draco

haughty wigeon
#

same

haughty wigeon
#

especially in spaces where it can be buried

#

forums its up longer

proven ocean
#

Idk whats worse, ryu spamming killingspree essay’s or his +2 keys overall on details

vapid sundial
wintry solar
#

It's actually my job

errant field
#

So is it looking like twilight?

vapid sundial
wintry solar
#

It's not fixed because yall don't deserve it

proven ocean
#

I like that keys are ez tjis season

#

I tanked +10 on my 611 vdh with no enchants

gaunt phoenix
vapid sundial
#

I just find it hard for wow to hold my interest rn

#

I enjoyed pushing last season

haughty wigeon
#

im burnt out rn

#

defending superearth more important

vapid sundial
#

This raid didn't help my want to play wow at all

haughty wigeon
#

ngl turbo boost kinda killed myenjoyment too

proven ocean
#

Or possibly outlaw

wintry solar
#

No borrowed power to make me obscenely OP got me zzzzzzzzzzz

vapid sundial
#

Wym dawg

runic bough
#

yeah

haughty wigeon
#

i got my mounts, im farming raid, im chillin but now

proven ocean
haughty wigeon
#

i gotta reupgrade my gear

#

is kidna silly

sharp hinge
haughty wigeon
#

sudden huge powerboost

haughty wigeon
sharp hinge
#

jeez

vapid sundial
haughty wigeon
#

defending superearth

#

more all over the galaxy map

#

bug and bot divers

vapid sundial
#

I want the pinnacle boss to be pinnacle

haughty wigeon
#

i kinda expected secret phase

#

tbh

#

lore wise it would have made sense

#

like you beat gally he escape pods to the lowerfloor

gaunt phoenix
#

G'huun pops out and consumes gallywix

haughty wigeon
#

and activates some sort of doomsday machine and you gotta burn it down

#

20% extra hp

vapid sundial
#

That's basically nzoth secret phase

haughty wigeon
#

something anything really

#

i forget, did fyrakk have a secret phase?

vapid sundial
#

I just feel like this raid was rushed and released without a few mechanics

#

Except for 2 bosses

#

3*

wintry solar
#

I like this raid

vapid sundial
#

Sprocket oba and mug seem complete

#

The others Idk

#

I don't like the theme either

#

Only goblin I want is on dn

wintry solar
#

Ryu writing an essay

hollow temple
#

The delete button is waiting

harsh forge
#

I think stix is a bad boss

vapid sundial
#

I don't like any of this raid at all don't get me wrong

haughty wigeon
haughty wigeon
dawn tundra
#

Hey, which lesser rune should I get?

haughty wigeon
#

your not gonna like every raid

#

i personally

gaunt phoenix
#

Twilight devastation

haughty wigeon
#

completely and utterly hate

#

emerald nightmare

#

and nylotha

dawn tundra
vapid sundial
#

Nzoth was my first tier so nya holds a special place for me

#

Only 2 bad bosses in that raid imo

#

And it's very obvious what 2

wintry solar
#

Every raid in DF was mid at best

vapid sundial
#

Drestagath was a terrible boss.

Illgy is just.. Xd

wintry solar
#

Vault was fine

harsh forge
#

Maut best bos

vapid sundial
#

You're talking to the prepatch rank 1 maut parse buddy

haughty wigeon
#

maut was

#

one of the bosses of all time

#

do u love exploding yourself?

vapid sundial
#

"Oh no, my corruption crit I'm dead"

haughty wigeon
#

or it stars procced

wintry solar
#

Don't crit idiot

#

L players

vapid sundial
#

Running around with 70% crit unbuffed made it hard

dawn tundra
#

I'll be quite honest with y'all? I genuinely hated Vault, but thought Abberus and the Tree Raid were lovely.

wintry solar
#

Abberus

#

Not vault

#

Vault sucked

#

Abberus was fine

vapid sundial
#

Raz was a better fight than sark

#

Idk

#

There weren't any real weak aura bosses in vault were there

#

So vault better gg

dawn tundra
#

Raz was, as an ex-friend described it, just abysmally long.

proven ocean
runic bough
#

I mean if u look at TWW what did it give outlaw?? I find it easy to believe that outlaw players lost interest this expansion.

Negatives
*Nerfed embelishments, weapon procs, trinkets..
*TrololololSpree, never has been used and they knew nobody likes it but made it a forced finisher anyway.
*Still beta testers, paying subscriptions players have to report the bugs every single patch because of likely zero testing before implementing.
*No longer can cast adr 1 second before raid boss, must be after boss takes damage, giving other dps a head start.
*Plenty of cashshop advertisements and contents that do not improve the current issues.
*They get all this money from cashshop yet still no active bug team, only articles on wowhead get bugs fixed for the most part.

*Positives
*Subt bug fix
*BF bug fix (due to wowhead publicity) gives us a general advantage since we are always nerfed in retrospect and this was implemented after a tuning patch, thus highly beneficial.
*Coup bug that was fixed fast.
*Trinket bug lasted a week or less until it got fixed fast.
*Fatebound became obsolete due to the tuning to trolololster hero tree, offer something new but not fun.
*was second vanish in season 1, i forgot?

umm i cant really think of any real reason to stay playing wow as an outlaw player besides enjoyment of the spec overall.

vapid sundial
dawn tundra
proven ocean
#

Bro

#

Like

#

Everytime i try to read this chat

runic bough
#

im sorry it took awhile to write i was responding to the guy above

proven ocean
#

I see a msg longer than my house

#

Brother

wintry gate
#

just an idea but, if they turned killing spree into Mughzee's spray and pray animation

vapid sundial
wintry gate
#

i'd be happy

#

and i'd die happy

wintry solar
#

I think that was an actual message to someone

proven ocean
#

Because

vapid sundial
#

Sylvanas would have been a good fight if they removed the rp phase

proven ocean
#

He literally sends an actual msg

#

Everytime

wintry solar
#

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt this time

proven ocean
#

Thats longer than a pyramid

runic bough
harsh forge
#

stacking infinite stars and getting killed in maut intermission to rupture

vapid sundial
dawn tundra
runic bough
#

i forgot to reply to him

vapid sundial
wintry solar
#

It's hard to take it seriously when you call it trololololol spree tbf

vapid sundial
#

It is trolling spree tho

#

Tbf

wintry solar
#

It is

#

But time and place

dawn tundra
#

I figure that had to be beyond awful.

vapid sundial
#

Not the random player targeted

cinder relic
#

Sylv was a cool fight, just was 15 minuts long

vapid sundial
#

That didn't exist rly bc of boomie

dawn tundra
#

Fuuuuuck- Say less, man. I didn't touch raiding in Shartolands much.

cinder relic
#

It was fairly easy prog fight

#

Took like 100 pulls or so

#

was just long af

fossil lintel
#

I feel like the last 2/3 of shadowlands was the intermission

vapid sundial
cinder relic
#

I liked the fight was just long

runic bough
#

long fights are fun I dont get all the hate on them

cinder relic
#

Intermission was cool I liked it

runic bough
#

The entire short boss fight thing is what makes people bored

vapid sundial
#

It's not

#

It's the lack of depth at all

cinder relic
#

Bosses shouldnt have 2 lusts in them lol

fossil lintel
#

Kyvessa was a banger last tier and it's pretty quick

#

Brood on the other hand...

vapid sundial
#

I enjoyed jailer

#

Idk

cinder relic
#

Jailer is genuinly one of the best fights ever made

#

Sepulchur was an insane tier

vapid sundial
#

That fight was so fun

cinder relic
#

Most fun set of fights for sure

vapid sundial
#

Council

#

Jailer

#

Rygelob

cinder relic
#

halondrus

pastel otter
#

think its worth dropping circlet to have these stats?

wintry solar
#

Halondrus stands out to me for sure

vapid sundial
#

Only fight I didn't enjoy was the worm

gaunt phoenix
proven ocean
#

Wait that sounds wrong

gaunt phoenix
#

yes (in dps)

vapid sundial
pastel otter
#

yeah its quite a bit better on sim not using circlet

craggy barn
#

twilight dev did 2% in 10 top

tight kernel
#

Guys ! ! Horrific Visions

#

not time gated!