Actually
#outlaw
viral flume
This is insane
lime lake
ok well screaming in fear doesnt count
viral flume
I had not played yet this season andi mean its fucking beyond ignorant
Thats literal victim mentality
Its unintelligent design plain and simple
mossy compass
I scream everytime I KS
My guild screams every time I KS
jolly geyser
My guild screams every time I KS
ks with carnage beam
viral flume
My guild screams every time I KS
Why dont we solve the problem. Who is the person to communicate the issue to? Are they unaware of said issue or have a stance that opposes 95% of the community?
torpid fiber
They're aware
wintry solar
The second thing probably
mossy compass
ks with carnage beam
That has happened, funniest shit ever
viral flume
Okay, then we should facilitate communicating that there is a major issue
wintry solar
The dk community is very vocal against wounds and blizz flat-out said they're not changing it. KS could be in the same boat.
pearl trout
The dk community is very vocal against wounds and blizz flat-out said they're no...
and Defile
wintry solar
That's not really a design thing but should be fixed
cinder relic
Okay, then we should facilitate communicating that there is a major issue
We have
pearl trout
there's a reason why only the DKs can see the Defile and no one else in the party, but the animation is still like that lol
wintry solar
The code probably took a trip to Italy if you catch my drift
wintry solar
Yooooo
wintry solar
Whoever cooked that is a certified chef ngl
What a new, fresh, and most importantly, good idea
pearl trout
damn that's a nice post, how I never see it before
cinder relic
Can we pin the forum post by Wox?
Every article I've written on wowhead about hero talents, or outlaw in general has mentioned killing spree
During beta we wrote multiple feedback posts, and threads about it
I tweet about it
wintry solar
True btw
vivid vessel
tahts true
jolly geyser
new wowhead post, "KS is ass"
pearl trout
this discord doesn't shut the fuck up about it
we have sleep paralysis about KS at this point
viral flume
I was literally making a twitter to tweet about it
strong cargo
My guild screams every time I KS
Add "/ping [@player]" in KS macro they'll have fun
wintry solar
I wish they'd fix KS so we can focus on making silly builds
Silly builds are my pictures of Spider-Man
vivid vessel
people dont know that outalw does damage yet
viral flume
Will be tweeting every 2-3 days.
vivid vessel
i still cant get into keys !
jolly geyser
too toxic ig
agile quiver
did they change how blade flurry centers? it's not damaging NPCs directly adjacent to me when I use pistol shot / BTE
lime lake
agile quiver
agile quiver
weird, it used to flurry around even if the target died
vivid vessel
well thats prolly an edge case of making bf not cleave dead targets idk
cinder haven
It might have changed when they fixed the bug
cinder relic
thats probably side effect of the dead target flag 
quasi notch
Is it true i have to reuse bladeflurry after i get grand melee buff?
agile quiver
one bug fixed, another one created 
red zinc
why does the afenar wa disappear outside of combat
vivid vessel
Is it true i have to reuse bladeflurry after i get grand melee buff?
no they fixed that
red zinc
and how do i fix it
cinder haven
Realz mentioned that it may have been the reason it was added in the first place
vivid vessel
why does the afenar wa disappear outside of combat
because guy is a weirdo
lime lake
check load conditions
red zinc
how could you ever play with this
vivid vessel
Realz mentioned that it may have been the reason it was added in the first place
he said the opposite really
like
cinder relic
Because I only load weakaura packages in combat
red zinc
id go crazy
cinder relic
Just go to load > change in combat to always
quasi notch
What about the BF targeting dead adds is that also fixed?
viral flume
Sec, idiot question again. Do we include supercharger in our combo point calculation? So if i have supercharger i can finish at 4 Cp for dispath out of stealth?
cinder haven
The dead flag was added to make it flurry if the hit killed the target was my understanding
vivid vessel
no
viral flume
or 3 for bte in crackshot
cinder relic
Sec, idiot question again. Do we include supercharger in our combo point calcula...
no
vivid vessel
The dead flag was added to make it flurry if the hit killed the target was my un...
ah well idk then
quasi notch
@lime lake sorry didnt see
agile quiver
oh man, this makes legacy farming suck so much:
mossy compass
I wonder if this is similar to how Blind doesn't AOE if the thing dies due to the CC, like with the M+ affix of those channelers in waking the machine
potent gyro
Is there a noticeable dmg diffy now that bf isn’t hitting corpses? I haven’t played ol in a bit
vivid vessel
yes
potent gyro
potent gyro
15m brew openers in 2025?
vivid vessel
rookery is wild but i never ralized that like
this end part
you just werent cleaving at all
cause you have a pack of shitters
that insta die
on every apck
potent gyro
Oh ye true that’s probably massive
potent gyro
We’re so back
potent gyro
My pc works fine thank you
jolly geyser
too bad rookery is still meh
cinder haven
I kinda like rookery
hollow temple
i asked what was the reason but the heal (keyholder) never replies
bold sphinx
It is so nice doing 12 mil damage in first pull in cinder and not tank damage !!
wintry solar
The fact the default UI doesn't distinguish between opp and gsw actually pisses me off
magic shuttle
Ye gsw needs a separate indicator
lime lake
yeah its a bit troll
red zinc
Just go to load > change in combat to always
just out of curiosity do you have some kind of different buff tracking outside of the wa's then
i just cant imagine not knowing what buffs i have in between packs
i know you play very little m+ but still
patent mirage
its bettet to have it always on tbh
red zinc
8-9 is the real pug hell
people are bad enough to somehow not 2chest an 8, and nobody applies for 9s
never escaping
blissful zinc
rotund zodiac
90%+ is good
cinder relic
i know you play very little m+ but still
So usually I have a handfull of things tracked outside of combat. First dance, rtb buffs, deathstalkers mark, but then when I release the package to the public I usually just "show all" and sometimes forget to reconfigure things
plucky ridge
how do you make the choice between KIR and HO? is it based on sims? HO sims higher for me rn
cinder relic
Which do u fw more
celest cobalt
Is geargrinders sim bait or actually a decent trinket for m+? Also have a priory i could run. I'm running seaforium as 2nd trinket. (Running KIR)
cinder relic
It's good
wintry solar
I keep reading seaforium as sea foam
latent oak
biggest is brew dungeon
its crazy on lich boss in top aswell
since all the adds are spawned in the same place
vivid vessel
realy
arctic ibex
Ok kinda new to rogue but How do you not die with killing spree? 🤣
past falcon
memorize when it’ll kill you if you’ll press it 🙂
if sketchy use a defensive before pressing it
but it’s mostly learning through playing it
arctic ibex
im getting there but damn its rough lol
wintry solar
Cloak and Cheat Death are your friends
arctic ibex
I do like how i can use it to avoid boss mechs sometimes
past falcon
u don’t avoid mechanics w it
strong cargo
u don’t avoid mechanics w it
the stagger can be nice for it, big aoe hit all the group for 60% but you just get a slow dot
arctic ibex
Gonna be fun learning the class though, enjoying it so far
jolly geyser
Ok kinda new to rogue but How do you not die with killing spree? 🤣
anger
past falcon
the stagger can be nice for it, big aoe hit all the group for 60% but you just g...
fair fair
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/3169237500...
nice one
brave grove
is it better to run a Mythic Remnant of Darkness or Heroic Improvised Seaforium Pacemaker? the sims keep telling me its a dps loss
cosmic axle
then its a dps loss ig
vivid vessel
guys outlaw so op nerf
past falcon
ya but was the boss dmg
proven ocean
zeross still on <#316923682607857685> why
Ur a rogue?!?!
vivid vessel
ya but was the boss dmg
it was jsut a bit of first part of flood
we did this bnoss here
proven ocean
I know u love cow’s zac stay away from me
leaden folio
Ur a rogue?!?!
https://raider.io/characters/eu/les-sentinelles/Naïlo im counting as outlaw now
past falcon
we did this bnoss here
terrible news for the boomie fotm rerollers
leaden folio
I do 13 and 14
jolly geyser
I like Nailo in ot, he big gamer?
vivid vessel
big fat ass cow !
leaden folio
i m coming zerocool
jolly geyser
Wtf thats underage
no thats your age
vivid vessel
giga normous cow @proven ocean !
hasty edge
is it better to run a Mythic Remnant of Darkness or Heroic Improvised Seaforium ...
DPS loss to run pacemaker?
wintry solar
Hm
brave grove
DPS loss to run pacemaker?
glass mortar
id probably still use pacemaker because the way remnant works is kinda stinky but this isnt surprising
ilvl is king for most trinkets this season
because all trinkets r pretty weak
frank finch
wintry solar
Real
It's gotta be flashy or give instant gratification
Preferably both but I'll take what I can get
glass mortar
i just prefer lower highs higher lows
i want my trinket to always be giving me value
that trinket, when it just procced damage and has nos tacks, is giving u nothing
no primaries no secondaries no damage procs
think it takes like 1.5-2m to ramp and fall off each cycle or something
also its gunna be turbobad on like, first pull of a dungeon
jolly geyser
I like primary trinkets
glass mortar
where u have no stacks
jolly geyser
give back grieftorch my beloved,one day
glass mortar
yes the trinket is like 2 rppm or something and stacks up to 4 times and then procs and does damage and goes back to zero
wintry solar
Speak your truth Ram
glass mortar
just meh design imo, not what i want on my outlaw
dont think its particularly strong tho, not something to aim for in mythic trinkets. but its fine overall
wintry solar
I hope next season, trinkets are better
glass mortar
it did alot of damage
i mean like, magnet trinket could feel like that if it was tuned higher
wintry solar
Loved grieftorch
unborn basin
jolly geyser
still got it in bank
wintry solar
I still got Razdunks Big Red Button in the bank from BFA
That shit was baller
Bfa had great trinkets
jolly geyser
every expansion got the fan favs
wintry solar
SL had what?
jolly geyser
erm
jolly geyser
razorscale,idk
runic bough
I just need to ask
When do you guys pop adr in raid
I am so mad I want to rerolll again
hollow temple
Ok kinda new to rogue but How do you not die with killing spree? 🤣
kinda skill dependant but usually it starts and ends in animation where you have started spree
glass mortar
When do you guys pop adr in raid
on cd
unless a boss phase is about to happen or like a stix roll
wintry solar
When do you guys pop adr in raid
When tank makes contact with boss
wintry solar
I thought he said on pull, my bad.
glass mortar
he didnt give a specific timing ur answer was also good
glass mortar
yea dont use it prepull
runic bough
Much rage
Meanwhile everyone gets to spam cds on pull
And we can't cast adr until everyone hits the boss
Fuck
late swallow
Meanwhile everyone gets to spam cds on pull
other classes have this restriction too
runic bough
I'm losing interest in raiding solely because of that
These rules they make up to restrict playing their game
If I didn't enjoy m+ this season I'd probably be playing another game.
jolly geyser
I do raid so I dont have to do m+ that much
deep python
Anyone know why the icy veins M+ HO build has keep it rolling but doesn't have HO at all?
runic bough
Probably kir enjoyer guide
late swallow
Anyone know why the icy veins M+ HO build has keep it rolling but doesn't have H...
different guide writers have diff biases
wowhead probs has the best outlaw resources
wowhead + this disc
coarse plover
Is it me or the weapon gets broken so fast
jolly geyser
transmog and repair cost should get lowered imo
frail veldt
Meanwhile everyone gets to spam cds on pull
Stop spreading fake news
runic bough
Lol not
vestal notch
Assa doesnt spam on pull either
runic bough
Other specs that have cooldowns instead of builder/finisher can just go straight into their big cds.
deep python
is deft meneuver not really used right now?
vestal notch
Demo doesnt use on pull
frail veldt
Other specs that have cooldowns instead of builder/finisher can just go straight...
so can we
ALSO
runic bough
Only the specs like us suffer from that raid rule
frail veldt
you werent supposed to adr before pull even before the change
adr has lost cds on pull for a while
vestal notch
being a builder spender isnt the problem wtf
craggy barn
is deft meneuver not really used right now?
for HO builds no
frail veldt
what they added was actually losing the adr BUFF on pull
which is true for a lot of other classes as well
it was a collective change
red zinc
Why are yall arguing with ryu
frail veldt
cuz hes self victimizing constantly
red zinc
Still havent learned
craggy barn
yall, when its just mewo
runic bough
frail veldt
its mostly just me
someones gotta keep him in reality
cuz he wont do it himself thats for sure
patent mirage
i sniff killing spree in the morning
runic bough
Ewww
patent mirage
i have only killing spree in my bars
runic bough
Disgusting
glass mortar
im so confused what are we suffering from
patent mirage
the voices
glass mortar
needing to pres ADR 0.1s into the pull instead of before the boss is pulled?
do u think other classes are using their major cds before the boss is pulled?
patent mirage
the voices told me to press ks with a debuff on
bright crane
Yes
patent mirage
realistically none is
glass mortar
!!
runic bough
Yeah for real
patent mirage
i want to use only ks nothing else
bright crane
Literally unplayable
patent mirage
ks has to last longer
bright crane
Do the devs even play the game???
runic bough
What does it matter popping a buff before the boss takes damage
patent mirage
at least 1 min
runic bough
Lame rules
glass mortar
i mean if u wanna pre adr u can, it costs 1 builder
runic bough
glass mortar
probably less of a loss then anyone else losing 1s of their major cd on the boss
to use it prepull
their cds r way more impactful
then anything outlaw does in the opener
runic bough
Hi my beautiful 7 cp
glass mortar
i bet prepull adr > opening with ambush sim is within margin of errors of current opener
its such a rando thing to complain about
patent mirage
i want to have 10 cps
runic bough
Hmm
patent mirage
or 20 even , my cp bar has to cover most of the screen
glass mortar
plus if ur fatebound u wanna be adring after boss is pulled anyway
casting ADR flips a coin that does damage
its good damage
glass mortar
vigor sc... what are u not taking
double vanish?
7 cp?
ur allowed to play bad builds
runic bough
Read it again bro
glass mortar
oh vigor vs SC
u want to drop haste
if ur trying to make vigor work
its not good fwiw
but it will be very bad if u dont adjust ur stats
the extra haste HO profiles are taking is to make up for the lack of vigor
if ur playing vigor u probably want 9% max
runic bough
And sc has bit more haste
frail veldt
when you drop vigor you want to gain 6-8% haste to make up for it a bit
vigor does not give you haste
pine ginkgo
Hi guys, after fix do you think outlaw is the best spec out of the three?
runic bough
So taking sc as ho is still similar to kir haste tax then
glass mortar
a bit yea
frail veldt
So taking sc as ho is still similar to kir haste tax then
its a few % below
glass mortar
the ghostly ST build for ho supercharger anyway
frail veldt
its less of a tax and more of a resource stat
glass mortar
wants me to have like 19% haste on
it settles in almost the same place as kir for me
a bit lower
frail veldt
cuz the amount is more variable
runic bough
I'm gonna have to recraft again
glass mortar
if u drop ghostly it goes down a bit
ghostly expensive
but i just gear around the ghostly build
runic bough
I just recrafted to go all in on HO but I got bored
bright crane
Hi guys, after fix do you think outlaw is the best spec out of the three?
Sin is still better for bleeding edge Keys. Ol is fine after buffs for everything else
glass mortar
are u minmaxing audacity bug
it helps me not get too board of HO
even if it barely matters
runic bough
Explain
frail veldt
also minmaxing using PS in subt at 1cp and max stacks with BS up
glass mortar
u need SS bound in stealth
during crackshot, if you have an audacity proc in stealth you consume it with ur SS bind
instead of ambush
frail veldt
weran I think this will backfire
runic bough
When im in stealth im wanting to ambush to break stealth
glass mortar
its worth like 0.5% dps
when ur in subterfuge windows
u cast ambush to build
if u end up casting PS and proc audacity
u want to press the ambush that SS turns into
its better then normal ambush
thats the min max
runic bough
Hmm
glass mortar
so u need SS bound somewhere in stealth so u can access it to press when its turned into ambush
(u dont ever press SS in stealth)
runic bough
So one bind that is normal ss that turns into ambush and one for pure ss.
glass mortar
no
runic bough
Lol
glass mortar
outside stealth u just bind SS
runic bough
Ok
glass mortar
u can only cast ambush when audacity is up outside stealth, so SS will turn into it
frail veldt
you also have SS bound somewhere OFF of your stealth bar
so that you can press the SS bind when it turns into ambush in the case that you have an audacity proc WHILE youre in stealth
because an audacity proc SS can do more damage than a real ambush button press
due to a bug with audacity
runic bough
Yeah I have ss bound out and in stealth
frail veldt
that allows ambush to triple hit
runic bough
Hmm
frail veldt
Okay well then press your SS bind while youre in stealth ONLY if you have an audacity proc
otherwise press ambush as you normally would
glass mortar
^ if ur SS has turned into ambush (audacity is procceD), you always want to press that ambush over normal one
thats the min max
runic bough
Yeah I notice a long action take place on audacity procs maybe I'm already doing it
glass mortar
well the bug happens all the time naturally
since u should only be using SS to cast ambush outside of stealth
due to audacity procs
frail veldt
Yeah I notice a long action take place on audacity procs maybe I'm already doing...
it isnt a long action
glass mortar
but in stealth u need to force it
frail veldt
it just hits more times
runic bough
Like it's comparable to coup action
formal crest
when you drop vigor you want to gain 6-8% haste to make up for it a bit
Is this only for trickster? Fatebound dont need that much?
glass mortar
its any supercharger ho build
which is every build btw
vigor is not good with this seasons set bonus
sick hull
hey for delves...which node do i pick? Loaded Dice or Sleight of Hand if i have the 4 pc set bonus?
frail veldt
Is this only for trickster? Fatebound dont need that much?
its irrelevant of hero talents
just matters for vigor/sc
vigor builds play 9% sc builds play more(depending on HO vs KiR)
sick hull
sleight of hands
ty much!
formal crest
its irrelevant of hero talents
But for me crit and vers gear sims better than haste, and I have 10% haste and play HO fatebound
glass mortar
ilvl will matter
frail veldt
But for me crit and vers gear sims better than haste, and I have 10% haste and p...
youre probably playing vigor
or your crit gear is higher ilvl yeah
glass mortar
and the other stats on the gear
formal crest
No, I play supercharger
frail veldt
sim a haste flask vs a vers flask
formal crest
And I simmed crafted gear,crit/versa wins always
frail veldt
haste flask should outsim for you
frail veldt
And I simmed crafted gear,crit/versa wins always
if you can share the sims we can probably tell you why
runic bough
And I simmed crafted gear,crit/versa wins always
What's your dmg like?
frail veldt
but something is setup wrong
glass mortar
r u playing ghostly strike or PC
formal crest
if you can share the sims we can probably tell you why
Sure I can share sims later
frail veldt
r u playing ghostly strike or PC
neither of htem will want 10% haste tbh
even when I played no gs as HO SC with PC it wanted like 16%
glass mortar
i mean fatebound could impact it a little bit, it has no kspree and 5% more proc rate
formal crest
No GS I play PC, maybe that is the reason
glass mortar
nobody is really playing HO fatebound at this point so
theres not really any reason to
glass mortar
yea its the worst build we have
significantly behind in any form of aoe
also behind in ST
runic bough
Fatebound HO felt nice the dmg is just missing
glass mortar
yea its just undertuned
runic bough
frail veldt
fatebound HO makes me fall asleep
glass mortar
by a very large degree
frail veldt
trickster carries HO's fun
runic bough
Yes and once you play kir it is boring
formal crest
I know its worse build, but I am only saying it changes haste requirement in my sim
glass mortar
yea i mean fatebound might lower it a tiny bit, no ghostly also lowers it by a fair amount
so not surprised
runic bough
I had 9% as ho last season
glass mortar
last season u never wanted to go past the cap yea
formal crest
nobody is really playing HO fatebound at this point so
I know, but I like outlaw and realized I cant stand killing spree, so fatebound is what I choose because of that. I do 12-14 so its fine
runic bough
I need to recraft haste again when I get home to go kir again
glass mortar
yea i mean
gl if it works for u
its just sad its like 20% behind at this point
too significant for most players to accept the loss of
fierce trout
I know, but I like outlaw and realized I cant stand killing spree, so fatebound ...
I'm running it too
runic bough
Also kir fatebound is ahead as well in single target too
runic bough
Ho is deadge on fatebound
glass mortar
still dead in aoe tho 
runic bough
glass mortar
our hero trees man
sick hull
what is this term "Ho"?
fierce trout
I'm still parsing 90s on bosses
upper hawk
where my Ho's at
runic bough
I'm still parsing 90s on bosses
Ho fatebound?
formal crest
Yeah it is sad, my main is mage and its awesome when all hero talents are good, and for my enha shaman stormbringer and totemic very close. Having one hero talent so much behind in damage like fatebound does not make sense, but it is what is
fierce trout
Yes
runic bough
Nice
hybrid crown
Fatebound ho single target isnt terribly behind the other options, but it is terribly behind in aoe
sick hull
Ho fatebound?
what do yall mean by HO?
glass mortar
nah its only like 3-4% behind in st
fierce trout
Hidden Opportunity
runic bough
Hidden opportunity
sick hull
oh ok
glass mortar
its just behind in every single aspect, it does not have a damage pattern it wins at
so its kinda like why bother
just if u really really hate kspree
hybrid crown
I just run it for fights not compatible with KS because I'm too dumb for kir
glass mortar
and kir
runic bough
Also once you get good at kir, Ho feels a bit too easy.
fierce trout
If i can play how I want, clear content, not be a hindrance, and still parse decently (purple) I'm good
hybrid crown
Honestly if we get a tier where KIR is head and shoulders above other options I'll probably go figure it out
glass mortar
wasnt that last season
fierce trout
The only reward for min maxing is screen shotting your parses and posting them here
glass mortar
pretty sure kir was ahead of HO in every damage type by 5-10%
runic bough
Kir was around since df, but I didn't learn it til this season.
hybrid crown
Moreso in aoe
late swallow
trickster is more fun anyways
hybrid crown
yeah
hybrid crown
my average parse in nerubar mythic was purple so I didn't sweat that too much
runic bough
Minus ks the coup is okay
hybrid crown
probably could have done better with KIR tho
frail veldt
I guess what is "head and shoulders" ahead
cuz wasnt it like 10% ahead last season
in ST
hybrid crown
I dont think so?
runic bough
Fatebound before the bf fix was so sad. At least you can hit 5mil on it now. But overall still bad.
frail veldt
last season was the most KiR has ever been ahead in ST iirc
hybrid crown
I am pretty sure guides even were still directing people that HO was fine
frail veldt
thats cuz guy writes the guides
hybrid crown
haha
glass mortar
the guide in here at least was recommending kir im pretty sure
it was far enough ahead before solo left
that he made it the defacto build
hybrid crown
Yeah that I do remember
glass mortar
and supercharger only increased the gap last season unfort
hybrid crown
The outlaw discord had different info even from icy and wowhead
glass mortar
kir should be ahead tho, 5% is probably a healthy place
i have no idea who does IV tbh
hybrid crown
The amount of time I've spent playing outlaw I feel like I should get gud at KIR tbh
I'm just stubborn
frail veldt
The outlaw discord had different info even from icy and wowhead
who even writes the icyveins outlaw guide?
hybrid crown
Idk
frail veldt
wowhead doesnt have different info from the disc afaik
runic bough
Well our apm is so fast, that adding in kir takes practice.
glass mortar
idk if it had kir as the recommended build
but prior to tww i dont think wowhead even had kir builds or rules
guys hatred for kir is legendary, i respect the HO grind
but he had it all this expac
runic bough
Guy is funny
runic bough
He was outlaw in df but then tww killed outlaw and he went sub
lime lake
one cannot exist without the other
runic bough
lime lake
foreverret
runic bough
@cinder relic explain yourself sir
glass mortar
he played ret in raid as an alt after the ret rework
so people started calling him a ret main
runic bough
runic bough
You main ret as our outlaw mod?
lime lake
shouldnt it say it right on the guide
lime lake
glass mortar
ah i dont know who that is
lime lake
glass mortar
someone in here? looks like theres a green name with that
so it should be similar to our guides
proven ocean
ye
craggy barn
ur shits just fucked ross
proven ocean
jpc plays on eu just to have my in bnet
late swallow
i miss jpc man
late swallow
nah it's jpc
craggy barn
ross isnt that cool
craggy barn
ll
runic bough
Did jpc used to be a regular here?
craggy barn
this is cool
proven ocean
ye he used to post +10 keys
craggy barn
late swallow
jpc is a regular when rogue is really good
cinder relic
Did jpc used to be a regular here?
no
late swallow
when something else is meta, he goes elsewhere
runic bough
I see
late swallow
i don't make the rules
proven ocean
thats respectable, i wouldnt swap off rogue tho
craggy barn
yoda plays shaman sometimes
proven ocean
all tanks play all tank specs
frail veldt
yoda plays other specs
red zinc
can you say something stupid as hell already so you get banned
frail veldt
he played outlaw in DF
late swallow
btw
proven ocean
well
craggy barn
he maintains the relevant ones
proven ocean
thats every tank in the game
craggy barn
like he plays warrior tank sometimes or enh when not in push group
cinder relic
JPC was never a regular here
proven ocean
i prob have around guy's msg's if u count my hacked acc
cinder relic
HE actually got banned from here for awhile
frail veldt
HE actually got banned from here for awhile
LOL no way
runic bough
Dang
runic bough
Timmy is such a hater
late swallow
HE actually got banned from here for awhile
lmao what did he do
was he an N word enjoyer or something?
cinder relic
When JPC was an up and comer he was a lot more...
proven ocean
lime lake
he said pineapple on pizza isnt even that bad
cinder relic
Idk how to describe it
But he would like, theorycraft stuff that wasn't based in actual sims or math, just like, kinda freeballing it, and then would talk about being a rank 1 player
late swallow
that's really based ngl
proven ocean
i guess if u ego urself out u just end up with a big name
cinder relic
His viewers would then come to the discord and spam it with porn
so we just banned JPC and discussion about him
proven ocean
just a matter of time till max realizes he cant play wow after all that runescape he did since DF
hybrid crown
Are they more of a pvper
jolly geyser
wonder if musclebrah is here,still banned
glass mortar
why would max need to be able to play wow
mf could be leveling his WC offscreen while he 21st mans
lime lake
dude definitely has runescape on second monitor during rwf
proven ocean
ngl
like
at this point
theres legit not a single player whos the best at their class
everyone within the top end are super close to each other
obviously there are skill gaps sometimes, if something is too hard then maybe 5-10 people can only play it at a very good level
but none of those 10 players
is
the best one
legit never happens
late swallow
i don't have any evidence or meaningful counterpoints, but I disagree
glass mortar
thats not true tho
(my favorite streamer) is obviously gapping all these guys
and is the best at his spec
proven ocean
i don't have any evidence or meaningful counterpoints, but I disagree
ur an average player so i expect that you disagree
💀
late swallow
ur an average player so i expect that you disagree
i don't even think you can call me an average player tbh
I literally don't even play this game anymore
lime lake
Yeah somnius you fucking normie
runic bough
I should play diabo2 on my second monitor during down time and reach lvl99
proven ocean
I literally don't even play this game anymore
ye exactly
cuz like
in SL
everyone was like
oh look
this streamer has to be the best player in that class in the game
because why? hes famous
sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
meanwhile
100 mistakes
in rotation
halcyon elm
lime lake
The more twitch viewers you have the better you are
proven ocean
vivid vessel
cringe as hell
bro
vivid vessel
he is describing you zeross
runic bough
proven ocean
i only provided proof that it does good
runic bough
hybrid crown
I imagine being an entertaining streamer and hard focusing on zugzug'ing do not mix well
proven ocean
i never mentioned my rio lmao
late swallow
I imagine being an entertaining streamer and hard focusing on zugzug'ing do not ...
this is the correct take
the only one that's ever done anything close to this is pikaboo imo
vivid vessel
proven ocean
the only one that's ever done anything close to this is pikaboo imo
notrickz said hes washed now
late swallow
pika is cracked af and still manages to be engaging/charismatic
hybrid crown
I couldn't imagine. I often don't talk in discord while I'm dpsing as outlaw
late swallow
or at least, he was like that at his best
glass mortar
pika is branching out into other games
gaining viewership even
good for him
hes a very entertaining streamer for sure
late swallow
yeah he needs to leave wow immediately
runic bough
I dont even know why I stream besides watching my mistakes. I don't have any fans.
glass mortar
i do miss the rogue arena streams but
theres probably room for growth going elsewhere
proven ocean
well pikaboo is definitely one of the best rogues in pvp
glass mortar
ur viewerpool is always limited streaming only such specific content
proven ocean
but
u also have trill
and many other rogues
who are at the same level
and most pvpers suck at dealing dmg too so
thats not something amazing
ngl most ppl that really enjoy the game and are super good are in pve mostly
runic bough
Savix is cool streamer too but he's on classic now
proven ocean
like
glass mortar
well thats true most people in the game are in pve generally
its not really a fair comparison
pvpers r probably 5% of the playerbase
red zinc
also another thing to complain about
late swallow
i still think high end pvp has more skill expression than pve
lime lake
Tgp is way better than normal MDI ngl
proven ocean
you'd be surprised by how many good rogues are in this discord, u have stealthi im sure guy is good too and idk who else
red zinc
not to watch kek
runic bough
Pvp is like chess but the pieces are stun cds yeah
proven ocean
everyone had their peak seasons
red zinc
4 split screens where you barely see whats going on
late swallow
TGP is certified sleeper content
red zinc
shits sleeper
lime lake
I disagree but I can understand why you feel that way
proven ocean
i swear
the old trend word was yap
and gooper
and gooner
now sleeper
holy fuck
like
red zinc
that has existed for like 15 years
proven ocean
why do we get new words
red zinc
zeross
late swallow
sleeper has been a word for years now bro
proven ocean
every few weeks
runic bough
And cooking / cooked
proven ocean
that has existed for like 15 years
SAME THING WHEN PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT YAP
late swallow
cooking has been around for years
glass mortar
sleeper is older then gooner or yap
late swallow
sleeper has been around for years
glass mortar
no i mean
red zinc
And cooking / cooked
no thats just you hearing it because you're extremely cooked
late swallow
yap was last year
patent mirage
is this another yapping session
unborn turtle
XDXDXDXDXD
Sleeper gooner farming some aura
glass mortar
better then another goon session
glass mortar
?
patent mirage
i think we havent had any doom for a while
glass mortar
u dont understand what we are saying
runic bough
Timmy if u want to be a hater just block me
glass mortar
its ok
proven ocean
u guys
literally
always reply
with the same way
like
if i check all ur logs 1 year ago
none of u probably used the word sleeper
glass mortar
yes, it was in the lingo like 2 or 3 years ago?
glass mortar
being words that exist is not the same as being the popular lingo
proven ocean
vivid vessel
wait really
vivid vessel
which is
proven ocean
in 2025
late swallow
just because I don't use it a lot
runic bough
runic bough
yap mode enabled
late swallow
patent mirage
engage yapping mode , setting dooming to the max
frail veldt
https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923682607857685/1217288198695...
I mean probably
proven ocean
I miss when ross had 0 rio
????????????
craggy barn
sleeper yap
frail veldt
My mom says yap
cinder haven
Topic: GSW rework
frail veldt
Yappy
cinder haven
Go
proven ocean
mewo
frail veldt
Yapper
proven ocean
and pretend they used it in 1950s
glass mortar
the words arent new, them being used is new
proven ocean
glass mortar
nobody here was saying theyve been used since the 1950s
or if they were they r bozos
proven ocean
the words arent new, them being used is new
yes i know
glass mortar
glass mortar
always has been
red zinc
ill be the first to admit i am parotting words like yap and goon and whatever
vivid vessel
thoguhts ?
proven ocean
zac
red zinc
but ive been saying sleeper since like
glass mortar
i mean some of them are bangers idk
red zinc
2017
proven ocean
my balls?
glass mortar
yaps a good word
proven ocean
thoughts?
red zinc
late swallow
people like to reclaim old words and use them as new slang
vivid vessel
big fat balls ?
craggy barn
Go
GSW = everytime u BTE, ur next pistol shot is empowered to shoot a dispatch at 30% effectiveness, stacking up to 3 times
vivid vessel
fat cow !
proven ocean
ye
glass mortar
idk literally anyway u cook this talent it improves
frail veldt
the words arent new, them being used is new
I mean they've been used in these ways for a while too
They're just more mainstream now
proven ocean
(its a sandbag)
cinder haven
I think gsw needs to be replaced by something new probably
glass mortar
I mean they've been used in these ways for a while too
they definitly are
goon is good example
red zinc
I think gsw needs to be replaced by something new probably
TORNADO TRIGGER 
frail veldt
Yapper is a suuuuper old term that's def the same meaning
craggy barn
yea
glass mortar
goons were silly guys when i was a kid
craggy barn
give me tornado trigger
patent mirage
gsw is smth that stayed in because they cbaed to changed it
red zinc
GIVE ME TORNADO TRIGGER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
patent mirage
not tornadoe trigger
frail veldt
There's a movie called goon
vivid vessel
wtf does tornato trigger do lol
frail veldt
It's about hockey
patent mirage
splaash aoe
frail veldt
That is not the same
vivid vessel
it was such a bad tier
red zinc
wtf does tornato trigger do lol
sl tier set
vivid vessel
are you guys ok
red zinc
just buff it
red zinc
what
frail veldt
A goon is just a dumb oaf big guy
craggy barn
proven ocean
zac zac
late swallow
Yapper is a suuuuper old term that's def the same meaning
yeah but the sudden resurgence of its usage amongst like high schoolers and 20-year olds is kind of a recent/new thing
patent mirage
what if
frail veldt
Like a gangsters bodyguard
hybrid crown
did yall just go assassination for market research or is outlaw good for it
vivid vessel
you just bte while pressing ps sometimes
proven ocean
i missed when u were high rio zac
vivid vessel
whats the point
proven ocean
u literally
red zinc
bro the free bte from FTH pistol shot
frail veldt
yeah but the sudden resurgence of its usage amongst like high schoolers and 20-y...
It's not a resurgence
patent mirage
for each bte cast , gsw kept stacking dmg
frail veldt
It's a different word entirely