pvp

[midnight siren]

so i looked and it seems fun but all my gear is mastery so next season. i liked it back when it was combat but never really palyed much since

[stoic spruce]

You can still play it

You don't need a lot of haste and crit is nerfed in pvp

[midnight siren]

the guide said 15 and i have 2. but ill work on it when its not 2am

[pastel burrow]

its compstomp week so its really easy to regear for crit if you're concerned and don't mind using honor gear instead of conquest for a bit

[normal zealot]

What is compstomp?

[pastel burrow]

the weekly pvp brawl, lasts until tuesday(na) or wednesday(eu)

you load into arathi basin against a team of AI bots, it's easier than blinking your eyes

and brainless, but good for farming honor without thinking

it also has a weekly quest that gives you like 100 conquest and some honor, can find it in your adventure guide

[normal zealot]

Ohh i see, thank you

i remember entering the Q for one of those but never getting to play it lmao

waiting times are insane

[pastel burrow]

i'd def spam it on the weekend around "peak" times (whichever timezone you're in)

the first queue might take a while but once you're out of it, the next q should go quick since you'll most likely be getting the same gang

[normal zealot]

Ah okay, ill have to try that then, tyvm 😗

Btw, whats the best thing to do with conquest points after i have all my bis gear?

[pastel burrow]

can buy the heraldry items and use them to craft alternate stat pieces if you wanna fuck around, or once you've got higher than 1300(? maybe 1400 i forget) rating on a character, you can use their conquest to buy RNG boxes to send to your alts

which they can open for random conq gear

[inner tartan]

are u na or eu

[pastel burrow]

EU

[normal zealot]

Oh didnt know i can send the boxes. I assume via mail right?

[pastel burrow]

yeah!

[inner tartan]

o rats

[lone goblet]

Wait till you get high enough and matches becomes all double healer. They are that good.

[boreal briar]

Anyone tried sub on the PTR in full gear? Any good, or is it gonna be an outlaw assa season again?

[potent pivot]

Check back after season starts, it’s almost pointless to look at PTR rn

[potent pivot]

You only need 10% haste. Also you can just play assa, ignore the outlaw mains

[hazy monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxlJGitWdlw this guy plays sub rogue in arena with a controller holy shit

[severe helm]

Yeah honestly if outlaw doesn't look fun then don't bother

It is not a fun spec to force yourself to play

[marsh schooner]

are there any updated guides for assa?

I'm looking for a good opener

[potent pivot]

cheap-gar-ambush-rupture
from there it just depends

would worry less about 'openers' and more about the priorities of spells

you want to spread bleeds onto multiple targets, not necessarily only burst 1 target

priorities like using Fan of Knives on 2 or more targets, upkeeping Crimson Tempest when you can hit 2 or more targets, etc

[marsh schooner]

I wasn't sure if I wanna apply first rupture or crimson

and when to kidney on the opener

I feel like I have to choose dmg or stun

[potent pivot]

when you first come out of stealth your Garrotes and Ruptures will apply to all targets in range, and they refund energy when they tick etc, those are the highest prio

cheap is generally the stun you use on your opener, but it just depends on the goal

keep in mind you can spam cheap during subterfuge, so you can use it to re stun the target you opened on

[marsh schooner]

Nice I think I should read my tooltips

I would know those things that way lol tyvm

I'm facing that I gotta choose if I keep the target stunned or keep aplying the dots

But well I guess we aren't sub to stunlock people

[potent pivot]

yeah, i know it can be a chore to read all the talents, but it definitely helps a lot

[potent pivot]

sin is very similar though yes

you can spam cheap shot during subterfuge

you just don't have the capability as often as sub, due to not having dance

once you get bleeds rolling, using kidney shouldn't be a problem either

once you're getting energy back from having bleeds up, you can do w/e you want really

[stiff fractal]

How to choose main target correctly in solo?)

[potent pivot]

skillcapped has a yt video about that

from earlier this season iirc

[potent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJSmWrLvGE

here they just made a new one actually

[jolly sierra]

lemme see

[potent pivot]

it should be pretty good for general use

[stiff fractal]

And for my improvement)

[solid wharf]

Is kings bane good right now? It doesn’t look like it’s used much but is there any certain situation where I should take it?

[potent pivot]

yes, it's always been a good alternative

[solid wharf]

Are there any situations/comps where you would absolutely take it? Or is it preference

[potent pivot]

the best time to cast it is when your target is under 35% health for the added execute damage, or just when you want to do some ST 'burst'

it's just preference really, you can play it vs every comp or don't play it

[solid wharf]

Ooh okay

I’m trying to figure out things I can try in changing my build I can’t seem to beat any team that has an hpal

But idk if it’s worth since they can just bop it off anyway🥲

[severe helm]

hpal is very very good into rogue

[jolly sierra]

optional, just noticed isn't mostly used anymore as staple, but is still ok tho

[keen zephyr]

Hey am I allowed to ask questions regarding macro help here?

[potent pivot]

sure

[keen zephyr]

I've played rogue for about 15-18 years off and on, but its always been my main. My keybinds have only grown, never really changed in terms of placement (I'm talkin like muscle memory) --- soo look, I'm atttempting to create a sequence opener. So far, I've come SOMEWHERE. As in, lol, when everything is on CD, it works. But, I think CD's might be afffecting it. Would that be a possibility? ie, if Adrenaline Rush is the second in sequence, and its on CD, will it move past it?

No it won't. I can tell ya that for sure, right now. ha ok, (I'm teaching myself)

#showtooltip
/cast [combat][nostealth] Kidney Shot
/castsequence reset= 7 [nocombat][stealth] !Cheap Shot, [combat] Adrenaline Rush, Blade Flurry, Ghostly Strike, Ambush, Slice and Dice

This is what my first macro project in over a decade looks

[potent pivot]

i generally recommend against sequence macros, most of the time something will just brick them

[keen zephyr]

How would I get it to in a correct order/better order, or to fix this issue?

[potent pivot]

got no idea

[keen zephyr]

Sequence though, thats the only way to move most things to one button (unless its like my kidneyshot /cheap shot button due to stealth modifier.

[potent pivot]

if you're that committed to messing with it, google "gnome sequencer"

maybe you can ask on their forums or something

[keen zephyr]

I'm commited to at least learning a bit, which I have so far. Even if it bricks or isn't realistic.

Thanks.

I wonder if there is a modifier for trying to use an ability while on CD...l something like [stealth] [nostealth] or the Harm one

where it'll skip if it's on cd. Thanks a lot

[potent pivot]

there isn't a condition for that no

[keen zephyr]

Okay!

I really appreciate ya. My main issue was originally I was outlaw / combat forever, turned assassination level 78 or 77 and have onlyPvE'd since then til now, and since that assa spec has no need for SnD on the bar, I'm constantly not pressing it when I should.

So I was trying to get something down, to where I could Ghostly Strike or ambush and then use snd when able

As to not forget it lol

[potent pivot]

you don't have to press slice n dice anymore

as any spec

[keen zephyr]

Really? Why dont I see the buff as combat I wonder

[potent pivot]

dispatch/evis/envenom all apply slice n dice

[keen zephyr]

I JUTS LEARNED THAT

OH MY GOD.

... ..... Ima just delete my discord now haahahahah

Wow Well, shit. That was easy. You're great. I'm ....slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Later guys

[wintry dew]

Cheers

[half geyser]

for those playing forced induction build, how much do you alter playstyle? I have some quite a lot of spots where I am super energy starved. It feels clunky as hell.

[potent pivot]

what spec?

it really doesn't change playstyle at all for sub/outlaw, and as assa you just press envenom more than you would without supercharger

[glass hazel]

what spec?

[hybrid palm]

Any advice on what weak auras for pvp

[glass hazel]

as assa just do dots for energy

when you have dots on 2\3 targets you almost never go low on energy

[half geyser]

outlaw*

[potent pivot]

None really. Maybe make some that alert you when enemies press CDs n shit

[potent pivot]

Yeah as outlaw it doesn’t really change anything about your playstyle

You can rtb more often

That’s about it

Damn near roll on cd unless you have a 5 buff or really good buffs

[midnight siren]

do you target heals in blitz? ive been trying but they usually stay alive easily with the other ones help

[graceful ravine]

is there anything cool coming for us in 11.1

[supple pulsar]

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-orc-wow-blizzard-smile-gif-12610231

[gusty hedge]

depends on the map but yeah sit the healer, make their life miserable, Kick every big heal and stun into dr(hopefully you got DR tracker) set up for kill /ping team to help/execute. (also focus ccing other heal if group fighting . Be that pressure they cant shake

[potent pivot]

Basically nothing, just new tier sets we may not use

[dreamy parrot]

Any secondary stat breakpoints we want to reach for vers or just full send into mast?

[potent pivot]

just follow the pieces that most people use on murlok.io

[graceful ravine]

I was googling when is war within season 3 coming out. Cos I haven’t logged on and played in many months.

I thought surely were already in season 2 with season 3 on the way

I was mind blown that we’re still in season 1

After 8 months

Blizzard really dropped the ball

[potent pivot]

it's 6 months

and this isn't even close to the longest season that has happened in wow

it'll have been 6 months at the end of Feb, which is when season 2 is expected to drop

4-6 months per season is about as good as it gets in a game like this

[jolly sierra]

the longest was prideful one tho

in mop

[midnight siren]

ok ive been doing that but it could be im barely over 1k as i begin the climb so other people just aoe to top meters.

[jolly sierra]

ARE U FKN KIDDING ME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[hidden dome]

It always be like that

[glass hazel]

normal, took me 3 attempt 🙂 from 209x

to surpass 2.1

sometimes i feel like every 100 is gated lol :x each time you close you are given bad match ups

like double\triple pal

[jolly sierra]

ye

or a r1 or a elite player

happened to me twice yesterday

xdddd

like they are brought by blizz to gatekeep u

[abstract tiger]

I had a bad lobby Tuesday and got flamed a good bit. Told to go back down the ladder where I belonged and I sucked. Then the next game went 5-1 as assassination. It's how it is sometimes. This was to hit 1800.

Stopped mid season because of all the r1s at 1600

[potent pivot]

if anyone that's around 1800 is telling you that you suck

they are dumb fucks

[abstract tiger]

This has been the first season I've ever earned 1800

[potent pivot]

and they prolly suck a lot more than you

[abstract tiger]

I can't count the amount of times someone's cloned my stunned death marked target

Or been attacking something that turned into a sheep

Then told I sucked for breaking cc

Life gripped away from kill target after using cds

Stab harder I guess

[potent pivot]

some people are just stupid

gotta ignore the piss goblins fr

[abstract tiger]

100%

It's a win this season, I got the elite set

[potent pivot]

gz

[abstract tiger]

Next season I'll keep on it and it'll get easier

[jolly sierra]

got it

i can confirm i just used 2set, so can say is not needed to use 4 if your goal are 2k1 as min

[potent pivot]

i don't think the set you use matters all the way up to #1 world

[jolly sierra]

i say as reference

as ppl in murlok.io use 4set the most

for ppl which aims to that CR

[potent pivot]

ye i'm just saying it doesn't matter

[vague summit]

Does the illusion look cool?

[potent pivot]

its pretty meh

it looks okay for some pally mogs

[jolly sierra]

for pallies and priests

else is not

alright, got the elite arsenal

is ugly af this season xd

[vague summit]

Oh, it's an odd orange color

Dang, seaon two's illusion looks meh too

[hidden moth]

anyone know the weak aura or addon that shows ur cast sequences?

like he casted this then this then canceleld this cast

[potent pivot]

trufigcd?

[hidden moth]

https://youtu.be/rX-re2HQ9OM?si=T7DRn3Me28VUjoBx

[potent pivot]

ye that just looks like trufigcd

[hidden moth]

addon or w/a?

[potent pivot]

addon

it's only worth using if ur gonna vod review

streamers use it so everyone can see their gcds

[hidden moth]

was getting it to show the gf how to dh tank

"i have nothing to press so im sending throw glaive"
"babe im watching and u have 5 other things to send"

[potent pivot]

logging might help better with that

if u mean for pve

[hidden moth]

logging timewlaking

[potent pivot]

[hidden moth]

just tryin to teach, was gonna have her watch me tank and see what im casting

[minor void]

Hello people ! I'm kinda new, any good pvp assa rog streamer to follow on twitch?

[potent pivot]

hasn't been many this season

lots playing hardcore classic and such

[minor void]

Damn, i'm stuck at 2k1 and can't really climb over it

Was looking for someone good to learn from

[potent pivot]

if you've got any questions feel free to ask

[minor void]

Honestly nothing in particular but everything, i have no idea if i'm doing any good on my openers/target selection/target swap/spell usage, so I kinda wanted some gameplays to look at and see what are the differences

Don't really have any specific question sadly, but thank you a lot for the offer

[potent pivot]

you could check out ivanrah's vod actually

he doesn't stream much, but he's got 1 vod up atm i think

[minor void]

tyyy

[glass hazel]

gz pog

[jolly sierra]

tyty

seems like i raised the stake for this last time

as i got 2k1+ as min for 4 seasons in a row

before that i was 2k hardstuck max xd

[glass hazel]

2.4 next season then :x

[jolly sierra]

when i naturally git gud

[hybrid palm]

is elemental focusing lens better over long fights or ascension ?

[potent pivot]

focusing lens is generally the best option for pvp

[hybrid palm]

ok thanks

[jolly sierra]

ye, the lens are a VERY big dmg source

[fading blade]

is healer SS the faster way for honor rather than comp brawl?

[potent pivot]

if ur winning a lot ye

[jolly sierra]

there was a cocky mage here which dueled everyone with blink

i went my w ret as i was doing daily blitz

when he lose against me

blamed the alter time due to "it didn't pressed"

XD

[ionic orbit]

If anyone could share their keybinds for pvp with their sublety rogue, I'd be very grateful. Just looking for ideas. Thanks!

[potent pivot]

keybinds are super personal preference, but 1 sec

[ionic orbit]

I understand that. Just trying to get some ideas.

[karmic summit]

is flag worth it?

[karmic summit]

i usually recommend shift + space

if you dont use it imo its a huge keybind

[potent pivot]

i like it and dislike it at the same time

[jolly sierra]

i can share with pride my personal growth in pvp

is very consistent, isn't it?

[karmic summit]

big

the best duelist i have ever seen

[chrome schooner]

shift space is my stealth actually

VERY big bind :p

[stoic spruce]

I swapped

Hi shade

[karmic summit]

i used it for snd for so long that

i dont think i can change at this point

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-bring-it-stormtrooper-gif-15263344

[jolly sierra]

thank you dude

[stoic spruce]

https://youtu.be/IqpBSM3mJgg sometimes I watch Shades old guides to remind myself of more fun times.

[inner tartan]

can bladefury still cleave thou turtle and trang etc

or nah

[stoic spruce]

Nah they fixed that in DF I think

[keen zephyr]

I'm so happy to that!! I'm seeing growth just from starting pvpin' outlaw this season, and not immediately either. It's great to see! GL in the future!! That's incredible.

[sharp sierra]

What are the best buffs to enhance will keep it rolling?

[potent pivot]

we don't really play kir in pvp

if ur gonna play it anyway then just follow the pve rules for it

from the outlaw faq or wowhead

[sharp sierra]

I've seen that top rogues play it tho

in pvp atleast

is it worse than the ambush build?

[potent pivot]

the main person that plays it is whaazz

ur seeing all his rogue alts

most people play the ambush build by a large margin yes

[sharp sierra]

Ah I see

Guess its easier too

yeah whazz plays it

[potent pivot]

Ye ambush build is easier

A bit less shit to worry about

even in a vacuum i don't think kir is really better

just a slightly diff playstyle

[sharp sierra]

My goat just trolled me I played 3 days with it and lost my mind

thanks alto!

any place I can check weakauras or macros?

[potent pivot]

If you’re gonna use a class pack you can type !wa in #outlaw
no pvp specific WAs here currently

Wouldn’t recommend any rotational macros other than maybe macroing ghostly strike to whatever you prefer

Other than that it’s just the regular focus CC macros or arena1/2/3 macros

[sharp sierra]

like a good roll the bones WA and what would you suggest macroing Ghostly strike into for pvp

[potent pivot]

You can maybe steal the rtb group out of one of the pve groups. I don’t think any of the rtb WAs on wago.io that just tell you to reroll are updated to proper usage

You can macro gs to killing spree or just any rotational ability

Strike/ambush/etc

It’s slightly better to play with it not macro’d, but that’s the only rotational ability I’d recommend macroing that isn’t trolling

[sharp sierra]

Yeah I guess how demanding the spec is

Ill macro it into BtE I think

Was thinking into vanish

To have stronger crackshot windows

But I might vanish defensively sometimes lol

[potent pivot]

Yeah I wouldn’t put it on vanish

[gusty hedge]

my dumbass has ghostly strike macro to bladeflurry/Badge trinket

[hidden dome]

Got my 1.6 on my second outlaw

[hidden dome]

still going, over 3k MMV now

1695 CR 3176 MMV

[vague summit]

Is outlaw the best spec?

[hidden dome]

Nah other rogues are actually higher rated in blitz

I just have a lucky run

[indigo hill]

Are we replacing all conquest gear at the start of the season with honor gear?

That's a high honor level.

[jolly sierra]

thank you dude, was indeed a long road, but i can see the results as i can naturally play now instead getting too stressed most of time, hope you can grow too in pvp

[bleak grove]

Hi, is there any kind soul that would tell me "rotation" on assa rogue? :O

[somber thunder]

whats the reasoning for rogue outlaw sword and dagger instead 2 swords

[potent pivot]

Dagger offhand procs poisons quicker

It’s not a requirement or anything

The difference is pretty tiny

[potent pivot]

I would recommend learning the priority of your spells instead of a concrete rotation

[bleak grove]

hmm

[potent pivot]

1 min

[bleak grove]

huh?

[candid rapids]

I was trying to put together a PVP gear list for non raiders and people that arent going for high warlord ranks etc. Here is the list I came up with, are there any 5 man items, boe's, rep items you guys would replace with some of these?

[potent pivot]

Is this a classic thing I’m assuming?

[candid rapids]

oh yea im sorry classic anniversary

[potent pivot]

We’ve got #classic-discussion

[candid rapids]

oops Didnt see that I will go there

[potent pivot]

There’s links to more active classic discords in the pins of that channel as well

[candid rapids]

ok cool I will take a look at those now, thanks

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

Your highest priority is getting garrotes/ruptures out onto multiple targets, cleaving them from stealth/indiscriminate carnage if possible
Also spreading poisons is important so that your bleeds refund energy

Use fan of knives to build combo points on 2 or more targets, mutilate on 1 target

Cast crimson tempest on 2 or more targets (including pets) but don’t spam it, it’s another bleed

If all targets are bled (garrote/rupture/etc) or you can only reach 1 target, use envenom

[rose wigeon]

can anyone explain why this is a consistent problem in bg blitz? The enemy team got consistently 2500 up to almost 2900cr players, but my team is almost entirely 16-1800cr... How am I supposed to win that game lol we lost 1500-700 just entirely mowed over. But this has been a reoccuring theme lately for my Qs, the team is almost substantially lower than the enemy

[potent pivot]

it's because it's based on MMR not CR

[rose wigeon]

i get that but its clear that they got current rating and my team did not, mmr>CR makes sense until your healer is 1600cr in green gear who accidentally won a few games in a row, so now im eating -11 oer game back to back cuz i dont have an actual team 5 ames in a row

this may be my 13th reason, my crash out truly. I dont care about losses in a good game, but these arent even close games the other team is just running the players over i ger

[bleak grove]

Damn, thank you :O

[hidden dome]

Every time I queue into a tank lobby in Blitz I want to take the -150 and leave

honestly hate all tank players in Blitz

no matter how good you are, please stop playing

[jolly sierra]

in yugioh for example there is a deck i really hate in master duel called flowandereeze which plays into your turn and take like 40m to do a game, not kidding

i just concede what that happens

but in wow it would be heavily punished sadly

the tanks i hate the most are protadins

cuz those fuckers doesn't knows how to support as they thinks are just dps

and neglect a lot the games

[lost quest]

Hello there. Do we have anyone Ptr-ing rogue? I plan to come back for season 2 but saw some unfortunate changes to few pvp talents with addition of almost zero new ones. Scrolling throught those Hunter changes it felt weird to read few lines of text only 😄 Do you think anything else is on the way for Rogues to be added?

[potent pivot]

not really testing anything on ptr no, there's not much pvp testing going on in general. but not much is changing for rogue in general, other than the pvp talents

the only new thing there is to test is the new tier sets, that testing will happen on live when the season starts mostly

[indigo hill]

Always nice when you end up in a lobby with fury war, ret pala and bm hunter...

[surreal barn]

You all gladiators yet

[warm herald]

(keeps losing)

xd

[jolly sierra]

duelist again

leveling the NE rog for next season

lets go

[indigo hill]

Managed 2057 so far. Goal was 1.8k and a vicious saddle.

[jolly sierra]

chad

keep going

u can do it

[winter seal]

bro i went like 2-10 one night and my team was consistently the bottom 5/6 CR players and I'm like, is blizz putting me in losers queue or what

[rose wigeon]

tellin you its painnnn

[winter seal]

tbf I was 1800 with 2600 mmv but I was like how is my whole team bottom Cr but their whole team is >2400

[tender ember]

do we use bloodstones for anything in s2?

[potent pivot]

Pretty sure ye

[grave basin]

Are we hyped for the big 11.1 changes

[pastel burrow]

I'm really excited for the amazing tuning coming for Sub now that they don't have to rely on shadowy duel

Anyday now

[jolly sierra]

as an assa player

i am happy sub loses shadowy

was disgusting to play against

[pastel burrow]

was disgusting to balance around

[potent pivot]

Only for our alts

[glass hazel]

i dont like to lose bleed remove talent -_- now ferals will deplete us

[lone goblet]

Time to switch to dwarf get stoneform.

[glass hazel]

dwarfs ugly ;x

i've better play panda than dwarf

[jolly sierra]

hi

don't flatter me, you still want to place my race as second option between the worse xd

[glass hazel]

haha

i play human what are you talking about haha

;D

excel at nothing

[jolly sierra]

ye for that

at least you are not a NE

fkn NEs

[glass hazel]

i like their bonus but dont like stealth animation

wish we could pick bonus as 4th talent

[jolly sierra]

i hate them because both lore and being forced to play that to go stabler in high MMR brackets

[glass hazel]

2.4 below doesnt matter i think

any race can do well

[jolly sierra]

i was stuck at 2k3 in S4 DF

since that

i admitted i could be 2k4 just cuz that small perk

if i would changed race in that moment

playing them as darkfallen soothes a little being a NE

but made me mad most of them rejoined alliance, as they are still outcasts there

also, fkn xenophobic pricks always treats highborne like shit even 10k years later

until today in bel'ameth

[glass hazel]

lol so deep

[jolly sierra]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[glass hazel]

best stealth animaton imho human\undead

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrande-gif-19216791

[stoic spruce]

W take

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvanas-windrunner-gif-18024907

[jolly sierra]

imo worgens has the best stealth one

they lit stalks when they do that in their animation

[severe helm]

human lol

[hybrid palm]

Any tips n advice on how to cope with windwalker in arena

Always lose to them

[jolly sierra]

step kidney their fof

[severe helm]

or hit feint

tbh I never consider WW a kill target anymore

[hybrid palm]

So against windwalker and havoc, just pray ?

[severe helm]

kill the dh

dh is a great kill target

[hybrid palm]

Ok

Thanks

[winter seal]

[potent pivot]

gz

[winter seal]

I'm on like a 5 game win streak rn

[jolly sierra]

gratz dude

good job there

[glass hazel]

gz

[jolly sierra]

i am glad ppl is getting good here

look, you should be proud, this is the % total amount of players getting duelist this season

nice, it turned bright after refresh

[jovial sundial]

So with the 2x strategem talents and now supercharger combo points, does that mean something like envenom can use like...11 combo points?

[lone goblet]

For real? It kind of feels like this season is inflated.

Or maybe just assassination rogue is finally good in pvp this season lol

It felt like ez mode compared to most of DF

[jolly sierra]

that is collected in dataforazeroth according to all possible profiles

lit is from armories

[lone goblet]

How do you search dataforazeroth for specific achievements?

[inner tartan]

me is trash me needs to git gud

teach me : )

[stiff cedar]

i think its 10 but i haven't looked recently. 5 baseline, 1 from deeper strata, one from secret strata (so 7 so far) then either 2 or 3 from supercharger depending on talents, 10 total combo points consumed. i dont think assa is playing supercharger though

[hybrid palm]

Noob question but I only seem to win solo shuffle rounds when I aim healer. Play around 1700-1900 bracket, is this normal ? If I chase a mage or sp I just lose

[inner tartan]

sin ?

[hybrid palm]

Sub

[inner tartan]

ooo

i dunno tbh i only do sin and outlaw and me a noob but with sin i dont realy get how this works i just dot eveyrthing up and stuff dies outlaw i go full zug zug mod on whoever i think will take the nost damage but nromal that isnt a healer

[stiff cedar]

wrote out a longer message but it got automodded, i must have did a swear and not noticed LOL. i wouldn't bank on just killing healers to climb, that'll fall off pretty hard as you climb, obviously if you ever notice that a healer buckles under pressure them pressure them but generally just try to hit clean goes and pick good kill targets

okay well i figured out the word that got me automodded, didn't know it was a swear lmao

[inner tartan]

man u mean i been missing on free kills : ) next time i do solo i will have to try xdd

[hybrid palm]

Also is it normal to lose to enemy DK warrior duo? Or its winnable

[potent pivot]

Yep, google it

It got me once back in the day too

[stiff cedar]

i imagine it's probably ableist or something, which genuinely wasn't my intention, didn't know it had connontations but if i had to guess what they were that'd be my gues lol

[potent pivot]

No big deal dw

[stiff cedar]

dk is actually pretty squishy to melee/physical dmg

[inner tartan]

im pretty sure as sub dk isnt anoying cuz shadow coutns as magic

is

not isnt

[potent pivot]

Sub does decent physical dmg

[inner tartan]

ooo i thought they did a punch of shadow on burst

[potent pivot]

Physical and shadow

[inner tartan]

👍

[hybrid palm]

During duel as sub, does we get the dance damage bonus benefits ?

Or just stealth abilities

[potent pivot]

just abilities

[normal zealot]

Do we need algari crafted gear to upgrade into set items or is it the forged glad items?

[potent pivot]

it's gotta be conquest gear from the vendor ye

iirc you can't catalyze crafted gear at all

[normal zealot]

big F

i thought it was the crafted gear

rip 5 heraldries

[gusty hedge]

forced induction

[stiff cedar]

?

What about it sorry

That was the "either 2 or 3 from supercharger depending on talents"

[gusty hedge]

overlooked that

[normal zealot]

solo shuffle queue times as a healer is pretty nuts

[terse thicket]

OMG, I'm so happy, at first I had to climb to 1600, then it stablished there, little by little I was able to go higher and higher, and now I'm one shuffle away from 1800, 6 points to be precise
I came back to WoW this time focused on playing ranked and getting better at pvp, first time play it serious, also, almost gave up my rogue 4 weeks ago, but all you need is practice
I'm starting to try my macros for focus to CC healers, instead of, "look at healer > tab > blind", getting used to it, the opener some dude share with me the other day also helped a lot

One think Blizzard should adjust for Blitz and Shuffle is to demand a cap of conquest, I don't know, sometimes I get a healer all green, it's almost free win rounds against, just melts

I'm confident that adjusting my UI to give me better information on what's going on, and learning better the other classes/specs, maybe I can get to 2000 next season already

[terse thicket]

And there we go, 30 min queue for one healer afk, a "loss" with +1 ranking, lol

[stoic spruce]

Omg yayyyy that's great (I hope, I didn't read all that I'm so sorry ily <3)

[terse thicket]

TL;DR: First time playing ranked pvp, about to reach 1800 on assa rogue, practice makes perfect

Is shuffle and 3x3 equivalent? Or a 2000 3x3 plays better than a 2000 shuffle?

[stoic spruce]

I read itttt

Just giving a hard time

[inner tartan]

🤣

[jolly sierra]

it has a filter feature

[solid wharf]

Does smoke bomb block spirit of redemption healing? I thought I had a 1000 IQ Strat of smoke bombing on top of the hpriest since their immobile but I actually don’t think it did anything 🥲

[severe helm]

It does

Oh idk if it works on the spirit itself

But if you bomb the target you're hitting then that works

[solid wharf]

Okay! I’ll just stick to bombing the target instead

[inner tartan]

for the trick pvp talent is it like the pve trick were u have to hit enemy first or is it just when u trick a player they get a 6 second damage buff

[hybrid palm]

is authority of depths better or radiant power, for arena ?

[jolly sierra]

authority

100%

it does A LOT of dmg in the meter

[hybrid palm]

is there anything around switching targets ? does the debuff stack simultaneously on multiple targets ?

for me radiant power does about 3-4% damage? does depths beat that ? + radiant power gives agility

also can depths be removed with defensives etc ?

[jolly sierra]

you don't play around the enchant

xd

[potent pivot]

Radiant power

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

The tricks talent just buffs whatever team mate you cast it on. It doesn’t matter what you’re attacking because it has nothing to do with the threat mechanic in pvp.

[potent pivot]

Which spec are you playing? Depths is pure ST basically but it’s just worse than radiant depending on which spec you play

[jolly sierra]

is depths

what are u talking about

lit is one of the top dmg sources in meters

[potent pivot]

It isn’t

Also

You don’t even know what spec the guy plays

[jolly sierra]

its a fact

he has red as color

[potent pivot]

So you’re just answering confidentially wrong

[jolly sierra]

so he is assa tho

i am not

[potent pivot]

He’s been asking about sub for the past few days

Not assa

[jolly sierra]

idk why he has that color then

but sub overlay assa

so idk, i just reply according to his color

if u place sub alongside assa you turn into sub color in ur name

so idk

[potent pivot]

People don’t take the name color seriously at all lol

Gotta clarify what spec they ask about

[jolly sierra]

lets see what he says

but i am not wrong tbh

u dont play around depths

anyways

[potent pivot]

Personally idc for depths for assa regardless

[jolly sierra]

in case he is assa

i say

[potent pivot]

Ik most ppl use it as assa

[jolly sierra]

i used it till 2k1

it was even

[potent pivot]

But it’s garbage

[jolly sierra]

my 3rd dmg source

so idk, i wouldn't say is not bis

for just an enchant

that, and lens was like the 5th one average

with like 13%

[potent pivot]

Yeh I just prefer radiant

[potent pivot]

Check the message history

[jolly sierra]

wait for him

to say thanks or confirm

lol

remember the priority here is him not an arguing xd

[hybrid palm]

For sub guys

[jolly sierra]

radiant

then

[hybrid palm]

Sry forgot to mention in question

Ok

N why is depths better for sin not sub

[potent pivot]

Sub plays around a lot of damage amps

[hybrid palm]

Ya, ok

Thanks !

[jolly sierra]

dw its fine

[potent pivot]

So procing agi is good

[hybrid palm]

Didn't mean to start a debate 😄

[potent pivot]

Nah ur fine

[jolly sierra]

why depths is better? for the slow dmg

sub hits in windows

not constantly

[hybrid palm]

Yes

[jolly sierra]

so the uptime in assa is better w that

[jolly sierra]

that happens more often than u think XD

[potent pivot]

I just prefer someone get clarification on spec before suggesting someone buy X thing

Since we are in a generalized channel you never know what spec someone is playing ><

[jolly sierra]

tags are just embellishments for name colors it seems

lol

[potent pivot]

Yeh lol just depends

A lot of returning users and newer users don’t change them from their original it seems

[jolly sierra]

for example when an outlaw ask something

i always dodge the question

cuz i have no idea about them

xdd

in yellow name i say

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

w sub i know a little the basics so when they ask why daggers in OH i always reply that

[potent pivot]

a few ppl have even suggested we use pvp spec channels in the past

but most of the season it's so slow in here i feel like it'd be super dead if we split it up

[mystic pasture]

like me! just changed it lol

[jolly sierra]

rlly

neither classic pvp is discussed here

wtf

[inner tartan]

kk ty

[hybrid palm]

is cheat death superior choice or elusiveness for arena (sub)

[potent pivot]

it's mostly personal preference

[severe helm]

as sub it probably slightly tilts more towards cheat

since you can really only die in a stun as a sub rogue

cuz you get to save all of your vanishes for defensive use compared to the other two specs who use it as an offensive cd

[hybrid palm]

ok thanks !

[karmic summit]

i would say if your playing against a more setup up comp go cheat death and if its a zug zug fest go elusiveness

[mystic pasture]

is that true? Damn! why am i playing assassination?

[severe helm]

Yeah sub has dance

[mystic pasture]

I am all about single target take down, should i be learning sub?

[severe helm]

Play whichever is most fun to you

Sub is very hit and run

[mystic pasture]

sass is a lot of fun

[severe helm]

You have no rotation outside of your burst

You might as well just afk in the corner lol

[mystic pasture]

haha

[severe helm]

It's too boring for me

[mystic pasture]

I mostly play BGs

[severe helm]

Oh in bgs sub is insanely broken

[inner tartan]

outlaw better mahahaha

[severe helm]

In bgs outlaw is worse than sub

By a lot

[inner tartan]

top damage me zug zug lord

how

[severe helm]

Assa will shit on outlaws damage in bgs

[inner tartan]

true but sin dies

[severe helm]

Not really

It dies the same way outlaw does which is in stuns

Only map sub isn't the best rogue spec is on deephall ravine cuz it's a team fight map

Every other map sub is hands down the best spec in the game

[inner tartan]

hmm i should realy do more rbg cuz i havnt seen that so once in my lobbys gotta suck

[mystic pasture]

will sub still be the absolute best without duel?

[severe helm]

Prob not

Duel is so so so broken in blitz

It'll still be strong cuz it kills almost every spec in the game within a triple cheap shot

And rogue in general is always gonna be one of the strongest blitz specs

[mystic pasture]

not sure i want to spend the time to learn using duel for that reason

if i did play sub it would be without duel at this point

[severe helm]

Blitz will probably be dead next season if it isn't the most inflated bracket like it is this season

[mystic pasture]

maybe, but I don't enjoy arena

[pastel burrow]

It's one of the most broken moves in the game, it's a good thing it's being removed. However there's no shame in enjoying it before it's gone 😎

[severe helm]

Yeah can't wait for it to be gone tbh

[inner tartan]

same

haha

[pastel burrow]

Same

[severe helm]

Such a toxic anti fun ability

[pastel burrow]

I play all three specs but even when I'm on sub I'm sick of it. It's holding the spec back

[mystic pasture]

think sub will get anything to help compensate?

[pastel burrow]

Idk, I just like to think without shadowy duel they don't have to worry as much when it comes to balancing the spec

[oak owl]

do people go Fatebound in Blitz because you can re-stealth?

on Assa

[potent pivot]

mostly because of the stealth bug ye

[oak owl]

ty

any quirks between the hero trees? I've played almost exclusively assa-deathstalker in PVE so far

[inner tartan]

wait

how

dose it work in s olo meaning do i get mroe vanishes

[potent pivot]

what

[inner tartan]

this

what bug

[potent pivot]

it's a bad bug

not a good bug

[inner tartan]

o

[potent pivot]

you don't get shit

[inner tartan]

what is it anyway

[potent pivot]

singular focus tick damage locks you in combat

breaks stealth

[inner tartan]

oo

[potent pivot]

deathstalker is better offensively, defensively, and has step cdr.
fatebound has the talent that lets you step back to back without it going on CD if used within 3sec, on a choice node with the talent that sometimes stops you from being slowed completely

if you play fatebound you basically just forget you're playing a hero tree

it's just passive

[oak owl]

thanks

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw deathstalker would be peak

[inner tartan]

why

what from it are u after

[stoic spruce]

Because I said so

[inner tartan]

fair fair

i thought there was something in that tree you wanted xd

[stoic spruce]

Not really

Actually the ambush stuff

But no I just want to be a Deathstalker Outlaw

[jolly sierra]

sorry for dodging ur question xd, i cant teach outlaws as i don't know their pov F

[stoic spruce]

He was talking to me

This is why you're hardstuck 1200

Sorry that's mean

Ily <3

[inner tartan]

it was more of a joke

i pve pvp zug zug zug but i got 2100 with barely pressing any cc so i quess it worked

[stoic spruce]

Oh no I misread. This is why I'M hardstuck 1200!

[inner tartan]

yes im hard stuck 1200

i need to git gud

[stoic spruce]

I was talking to panda

Now you're hardstuck

We're all hardstuck 1200

Even @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

i wish

[stoic spruce]

Bros like "yall get rating?"

I wish I was new to the game. Casual players look like they have a lot of fun.

I still think about the Outlaw who's only capstone was Ghostly Strike

[inner tartan]

i dont play with ghostly strike

i mean i know i should but eh boreing

also i shouldn macro it into everything which is what i do when i do play it

[stoic spruce]

I like it. I personally believe not every button needs to be interesting.

[inner tartan]

true

i did on one of mine macro it and line it up with sting like and badge get a nasty opener works well in double dps 2s

but most of the time dont play it

[stoic spruce]

What do you swap it with

[inner tartan]

tbh no clue later when i log on i check

[stoic spruce]

Just so you know, if it's something like triple threat I will make fun of you

[inner tartan]

triple threat in ho dont work

so not that

was propaly for both dice talents

but who knows

or precise cuts

i like precise cuts if i run trickster

[jolly sierra]

u are cursing a lot of players w 1k2 hardstuck

curse a r1 now dude

hope a hunter or a pally

[stoic spruce]

I'll cast hardstuck 1200 on shade next

Now we won't get any quality content

Because YOU had to open YOUR mouth

Is he multi r1? Idak

[potent pivot]

mglad/r1 shuffle i think

[jolly sierra]

are u a fortune teller who hex people or what lol

[stoic spruce]

I'm literally Fatebound

Then again, I'd say the same thing if I were a trickster.

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/carnac-the-magnificent-johnny-carson-the-tonight-show-prediction-feathered-turban-gif-24610250

hocus pocus you are cursed w smol pp

-popo

[gleaming sentinel]

So am I trolling if I wanna kinda focus on sub for next season or what. I like the rotation a lot in pve tbh

[stoic spruce]

Sub gets a pretty important bug fix so not really

[hybrid palm]

what bug fix

[potent pivot]

nothing too impactful

secret tech doesn't get buffed by Blades on live, it's fixed on ptr

as well the replicating shadows causing shadowcraft refunds to delay

[inner tartan]

mechagnome cheat death kinda feels good for pvp and the main stat increase is nice aswell

[hybrid palm]

that's huge for pve rotation though 😄

[outer sky]

OMFG

Look at the score

I'm fucking livid

holy crap

fjfhlKJRGBLkjbJ.KGNljfn

[mystic pasture]

I have a question for sass: When I don't play Kingsbane, how do I use shiv?

[potent pivot]

you use it to amp bleed/nature damage and for Hemo

[indigo hill]

Maybe you would have won if you were Firstrogue. 🤷‍♂️😂

[inner tartan]

zug is good

zug gets me kills

so bladefury is my hardest hitting abilityt nothing else even got to 1 mill ( and this wasnt just one lucky hit tehre was alot

highest bte was like 900 everything else didnt hit for shit in 1 hit

[stoic spruce]

Yeah that'll happen when adr pauses bf and uptime on adr is so high

Also some of that is pad

But the first thing is the main one

[inner tartan]

duh

im a zug / pad lord

[severe helm]

welcome to outlaw

[inner tartan]

i mean im cool with that

[normal zealot]

nuts

[inner tartan]

zug zug is the true path

[inner tartan]

ques for rbg suck and i shoudl propaly figure out tf im ment to do btu u mean if i go sin i do more damage @severe helm cuz the other rogues didnt do shit

[severe helm]

Then they probably suck lol sin does way more damage than the other two specs especially in a blitz

[mystic pasture]

or they weren't in the team fight

[severe helm]

yeah true but also you should try to be in team fight as assa esp if theres anothe rogue

outlaw and sub should both sit base over assa in pretty much every scenario

sin is so insane in team fight cuz of the aoe silence

[mystic pasture]

I never go teamfight, but I haven't learned sub or outlaw. I usually run around trying to steal bases

[severe helm]

well on AB/Gilneas there isnt really a team fight

sorry not gilneas

deepwind

[mystic pasture]

Gilneas I go enemy base usually or defend our home if needed

[severe helm]

gilly you should 10000% be in team fight as assa

[mystic pasture]

Flag maps I play defence and kill efc

[severe helm]

unless you dont have another rogue

assa auto wins the teamfight for your team cuz of how grouped up the enemy has to be on gilneas

[mystic pasture]

I might give that a go

all the silences must wreak havoc

[severe helm]

its very very strong yeah

not to mention youre doing insane damage at the same time

[graceful ravine]

any annoucement of end of season yet?

guess now is a good time to get legend title right

with max inflation

[jolly sierra]

no yet

i played anyways due to speculations of end season

in february

its speculated according to wowhead to finish in february 17th

or so

[lucid citrus]

I just want to see if the illusion is worth getting for next season lol

[glass hazel]

probably feb25 together with plunderstorm end

since s2 m+ mar4

[jolly sierra]

i think it was already revealed

[lucid citrus]

Oh yeah? Got a link for it?

[jolly sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOgAiYBkCQ

ye

https://tenor.com/view/jago33-slot-machine-slot-online-casino-medan-gif-25082594

we are gambling in s2 boys

[jaunty osprey]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-undermine-d-release-date-is-february-25-370014?utm_source=discord-webhook

[lucid citrus]

Thank you boss

[jolly sierra]

fair, this is the deadline, ty ivanrah

[jolly sierra]

u welcome

[lucid citrus]

Ohh it’s like the bronze infinite one but with sparks..

[jolly sierra]

ye

like the wep is being smoking hot like is about to explode

[indigo hill]

Any idea how rogue will be doing with the changes to pvp talents?

[jolly sierra]

S H A D O W Y D U E L I S D E A D

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[indigo hill]

That's taken away right?

[jolly sierra]

yeye

as an assa i hated it tbh

always had to play around smokebomb as i trinketed it

then

shadowy duel

dead anyways

xd

[graceful ravine]

pls i just wanna play the game

[graceful ravine]

dont they normally give pvp playesr 1-2 weeks heads up before closing up the season?

for those who want to chase titles

[mystic pasture]

they usually close it 1 week before launch of the next patch, but they also usually give 2 weeks notice yeah

[visual fern]

hello what poisons do you use as a assa rog in arena?

[jolly sierra]

wound and crippling

next

[inner tartan]

In 2 of them there were but they also died hehe

[jaunty osprey]

Is that not 2 weeks?

I’m confused

[graceful ravine]

it is i suppose but theres no annoucement of it, and we're 14 days away

[jolly sierra]

ye

i was rlly waiting for the end announcement

but as there were no news and just speculations

i just played anyways

cuz i don't wanna be cut by lack of news with a next patch arriving suddenly

[severe helm]

yeah 2 weeks from our datamined info

they havent even officially told us

honestly I think 2 weeks is still too short

how are they so unorganized they cant give us a months notice

it brings people back to the game knowing when the deadline is too

[indigo hill]

Small indie company.

[jolly sierra]

is way too short

in DF this didn't happened

it was always announced

i am lucky i can do the push in 3 days, but imagine most ppl

[graceful ravine]

i just want ppl to come back so my queues are faster

[jolly sierra]

which will just wait, sleeping as season is announced

[graceful ravine]

i hate this system btw lol, i only play the first month of a new season, then i quit and only play the last 2-3 weeks of the season

theres zero point of playing inbetween that due to inflation

[hybrid palm]

Any advice on how to handle BM hunter pet attacks, they just kite n peel me n if I can't land finishers I run out of shadowsteps n die like a dog 😄 (sub spec)

[severe helm]

and now its official haha

[jolly sierra]

the what

[jaunty osprey]

I’m still confused, that is literally the announcement

2 weeks notice was that

Season ends the 24th

[jaunty osprey]

See above

[graceful ravine]

glanced thru the article, did it say specifically pvp season ends feb 25?

[jaunty osprey]

Lmao

The launch of a new season, aka 11.1

is the end of season 1

[graceful ravine]

ah

im a boomer, need it spelled out for me

[severe helm]

yeah I was saying it before they officially announced I just saw the "datamined" resource

but yeah still 2 weeks is kinda lame

[pale storm]

It’s always 2 weeks lol what

[formal pebble]

It was kinda a safe bet that the 25th is what they were wanting to hit the patch on no? cause thats when Turb Timeways and Plunder end no?

[graceful ravine]

starting to remember why i stopped playing

[inner tartan]

da damage : ) my rating is boucning like crazy but o well

[inner tartan]

bingo

[jolly sierra]

gratz

[inner tartan]

how did we win this

my team wasnt doing shit

[hybrid palm]

Is running airborne irritant good strategy for 1 min blackjack

[potent pivot]

not really, no one really plays AI

[hybrid palm]

as in ?, what's AI about it, blind gives 30% damage output on enemy or healing right ?

[potent pivot]

Airborne Irritant

"A.I."

[potent pivot]

blind is a crowd control ability

you use it for set ups

[hybrid palm]

ya but it gives damage reduction on enemy throughput at 1 min cd, whcih lines up with all 1 min cd classes

[potent pivot]

taking AI (Airborne Irritant) cuts the duration of Blind by 70%, which is pretty terrible

you're not really casting Blind around the healing reduction

that's just an extra passive effect, not as important as CCing the target

[hybrid palm]

ok ..

but why am i seeing so much success with it then

[potent pivot]

because you can see success with any build, whether it's trolling or not

there's a reason no one plays it

[hybrid palm]

hmm

ok thanks !

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

you just are having success with that build, i had with elusiveness until 2k3 rating in DF when cheat death was the right choice in that moment, is just the way you play, as you can with your setup

for example i used 2set as assa this season and stubbornly defended just using 2 as an argument and had success going through duelist just with that

[inner tartan]

i got duelist as outlaw with out sapping or blinding so can i say those 2 buttons are bad

jk

[jolly sierra]

for me the panda racial was quite the key in some matches ngl

[agile kite]

Anyone know the rotation for the opener of Sub Rogue in BG blitz?

is it just symbols, dance, shadow blades, ss, st, cheap, evis?

then spam cheap into evis?

[potent pivot]

Depends a bit on build

[agile kite]

im not playing tea or flag

and im deathstalker

[potent pivot]

Can you post a ss of your build

Are you running premed for example

[agile kite]

yep going premed

im doing the murlok io sub blitz one

[potent pivot]

Ok, with premed you def don’t want to use CDs before utilizing premed

And with deathstalker there’s a way to line up Darkest Night evis with Finality

If you rupture->sec tech->evis->evis as your finishers

[agile kite]

so in my st burst i use rupture?

i literally never press that ability lol

maybe its holding me back

[potent pivot]

It’s not anything ground breaking, but you should use it yes

[agile kite]

even in like a 1v1 situation for flag?

[inner tartan]

did i zug zug 2 much the game was a draw i dont 2 many bgs but isnt that kinda rare

[potent pivot]

If you’re opening with all CDs I would yeah

[jolly sierra]

better than an L tho

[inner tartan]

i would love to say vulpera racel and passive might have but being real hell nah it didnt xd

[potent pivot]

Nahj has a short on his YouTube going through a couple different openers. Just skip the abilities that you aren’t running/got removed. (It has sepsis in it for example) just use a shadow strike in its place

[jolly sierra]

at least u can hold more meth in your bags

[inner tartan]

trueee

my mechagnome if we lose or win in solo i just say that was rather nuts guys

[potent pivot]

Also are you running replicating shadows? And dark brew? Those are somewhat wasted if not using rupture as well

[inner tartan]

happen to have any spare bolts

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[potent pivot]

For some reason people aren’t using Shadowcraft on murlok’s Blitz page which blows my mind

[inner tartan]

so im quessing by one of the bgs were they were yelling at me rogue sadly dont go team fight

will i be reported if i ignore it

i cool play def ninja i suck at so i dont

[ionic orbit]

Should you get the gloomblade ability to replace backstab? Why or why not?

[potent pivot]

for pvp? it just doesn't do very good damage, and sub's main strength is burst damage

damage outside of dance just doesn't really matter

there's also nothing you could drop to take it that wouldn't end up just being a damage loss

[grave basin]

Any1 knoww what the elite weapon tints are like?

For duelist

[potent pivot]

they're the same as the conquest weapons for all classes, but a white recolor

you should be able to check them out on the vendor

[grave basin]

For two seasons in a row ?

[potent pivot]

oh you mean for s2?

[grave basin]

I mean next season

[potent pivot]

they'll be some sort of recolor of the conquest weapons

not sure if there's any confirmation of the colors

i know you can view most of the new weapons on the wowhead dressing room

but last i check there was only a couple colors

[jolly sierra]

for duelist?

its a smoky black recolor

the weapons themselves are awful

so it will look crappy too (i have them)

[grave basin]

I don't think they're on the ptr are they?

Might have to take a look

[potent pivot]

no

i'm pretty positive the only way to see any of them is by looking at the data mined models on wowhead dressing room

[jolly sierra]

ah i thought were the s1 ones

sorry

no, no idea for now

[potent pivot]

it will just be a recolor of these green Prized Gladiator weapons

[grave basin]

Those look horrendous

I thought you linked me some Christmas catalogue

Thanks, hope the elite recolour isn't like yellow or some piss color

[potent pivot]

sword/dagger for example

some of the stuff looks neat, but it's all goblin tech themed

[grave basin]

That's a good size

Atleast

[potent pivot]

the world pvp sets look pretty sick

some of them are better than the elite sets

the plate/leather especially

[potent pivot]

the leather wpvp set

[grave basin]

Wow

[potent pivot]

no that's plate

sorry

[grave basin]

Zzz

[potent pivot]

leather

[grave basin]

I mean the colour scheme is good atleast

More dark tones for PvP sets as is tradition

[potent pivot]

well

they also have this tint

my assumption is that is the honor set

some of the weapons have animations as well

this thing is like a running chainsaw

[jolly sierra]

we will look like this in pvp? i say the model

not the skin xd

[potent pivot]

the model yes

#pvp message

^

that set i posted earlier

[jolly sierra]

is that the pvp color?

[potent pivot]

ya

[jolly sierra]

is elite color already confirmed?

[potent pivot]

should be the purple ya

[jolly sierra]

gotcha, gotcha

another one to the xmog dumpster

xd

[potent pivot]

we can double check the sets on ptr i think

[jolly sierra]

ik

[agile kite]

i think elite is

non purple right?

[potent pivot]

just don't think we can see what tint is the elite weapons

[agile kite]

or am i wrong

[jolly sierra]

im omw

to watch

[potent pivot]

im logging on ptr rq

[potent pivot]

ye u right

weird

[jolly sierra]

saved

[potent pivot]

it was LFR colors

[jolly sierra]

im am in

[potent pivot]

usually elite is purple

[jolly sierra]

for the elite

it looks ghostly

[jolly sierra]

nah, just for this season

df was red, blue, and orange

remember

[potent pivot]

ye

but lately lots of elites are red/purple

for all classes kinda

and gold/green gold/blue feels lfr to me idk

i don't like this set much either way ngl

fucking

delves

:||||||

[jolly sierra]

XD

for me the color is fitting