Love it all
#pvp
wintry dew
I'm actually enjoying this read so much
If you ever curious
R.A. Salvatore, the legend of Drizzt
halcyon timber
I saw that as a recommended novel just now
wintry dew
No way
halcyon timber
Audio version
wintry dew
I got physical copies fortunately
wanton breach
Woke up due to headache, waiting for pain killers to work
halcyon timber
Yes as i was typing in books under him
wintry dew
Woke up due to headache, waiting for pain killers to work
Same but different, randomly woke up because cats fucking up the house, and I'm not sleepy enough
wintry dew
Oh you bet...
halcyon timber
Oldies are goodies
halcyon timber
Oh you bet...
Im interested in what the earthen were calling magni ( a thrygorne - or something that)
More serious earthen who answered the call
wintry dew
a shinny yapping stone
wintry dew
I'll be honest I still have no idea
halcyon timber
Currently running around looking for lore
wintry dew
I didn't play beta nor early access
halcyon timber
Ahh mk
wintry dew
I actually kept myself out of spoilers rather easily
halcyon timber
Lots of nuggets and wc3 stuff everywhere if you’re looking
waxen meteor
do we have any new lego!
wintry dew
No
waxen meteor
shoot
wintry dew
It's a scaling bug
waxen meteor
i was deciding which alt to go in tww!
halcyon timber
Frost dk there ya go
waxen meteor
now i am leaning towards mage lol
wintry dew
If you like Transmog pick a plate
waxen meteor
it seems mage is rocking hard
halcyon timber
Mage is going to be likely favorable
waxen meteor
If you like Transmog pick a plate
yeah then i will just continue ret
so i can also heal in case i do want
halcyon timber
Moonkin prob buffed until they can galick gun tf out of people
halcyon timber
Sp is nasty
waxen meteor
i don't know i just like playing sp for wahtever reason
halcyon timber
I really like the story of the arathi
waxen meteor
despite i like playing sp, their last row talents are so hard to read
halcyon timber
I wouldn’t know but they def can take a hit and slap people around
halcyon timber
Just from whatever happened recently
Void torrent shorter channel and stuff etc too
waxen meteor
i also run into a dh in bg today, i have absolutely no idea what he was doing
seems to be casting eyebeam but not
halcyon timber
Just running around being an npc
wanton breach
Look at this beauty
That set is just amazing
twin burrow
lol tails coin
wintry dew
Oh boy
twin burrow
damn royal u are on a fault line
jolly sierra
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
u ok royal?
glad i left spain
||for a worse country for earthquakes||
lol
||probably the worst ever for this stuff||
stoic spruce
Nuh uh
I had a dream where there was a country that was having an earthquake 24/7
So
Thats probably worse
jolly sierra
u should be a druid then
but lets be honest
my last earthquake was like 7.1
or so
happened in like 2018
nvm was 6,9 but enough for a quake
XD
me stronk
twin burrow
stat padding -.-
wintry dew
The amount of Portuguese people on Reddit complaining is so fucking funny
jolly sierra
what did they said lol
wintry dew
Mostly are joking like I was peeing when it happened and I did pee everywhere
twin burrow
what language are they speaking, brazilian?
twin burrow
wintry dew
Negative Brazilian isn't a language
jolly sierra
careful u are earning enemies
twin burrow
im a trickster rogue afterall
wintry dew
Fair
wintry dew
But really, many people don't understand that Brazil speaks Portuguese and not Brazilian
twin burrow
k lo k
jolly sierra
sadly brazil is more popular than portugal rn
wintry dew
Ye
wintry dew
I honestly love Brazil man (as in some of it's content creator YouTubers)
twin burrow
portugal was a pretty big empire
wintry dew
We were yeah
twin burrow
just to cofirm. in my skirmish i was able to change hero talents. can i do this in rated arena too?
wintry dew
Pre door opening
twin burrow
rewards you for learning them both and opens you up to more playstyles
wintry dew
Haven't you played DF?
twin burrow
honestly not much prepatch or beta and i just never noticed. i usually miss simple things and go balls deep in maths lol
wintry dew
Oh okay I see
twin burrow
is there a clear cut pve spec yet for rogue
stoic spruce
That's sick
jolly sierra
new business
wintry dew
I got you homies
grave basin
@stoic spruce hows outlaw
topaz delta
anyone tried assa fatebound in pvp? how is it?
halcyon timber
Yeah the pvp gems are costly but im glad everything is in house now . I think the gems or the setting runs us 15k honor but I can’t remember.
The flask will def be nice
jolly sierra
the purple gems costs 7500 according to wowhead
stoic spruce
<@530563212093947914> hows outlaw
I'm on my work week. Don't really play during. Ask me Wednesday.
low moon
if we grind honor now does it reset tmrw or on s1 start at all?
potent pivot
if we grind honor now does it reset tmrw or on s1 start at all?
Nop
nova viper
@jolly sierra seeeeeeeeeeeexo
sup choche
que passa
9/11 we gonna blast solo shuffle
tidal python
Hi,
If you think pvp oriented, do I need to do the campaign on my main character? I just want to level up and get into the arena and BGS.
jolly sierra
<@239851547935113216> seeeeeeeeeeeexo
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
nova viper
no, to a factory
U are too smart for factory
jolly sierra
U are too smart for factory
maybe but was the only option for now
when i have the chance ill snap out tho
nova viper
twin burrow
peak jolt
Dafuq, I'm equipping my leggo daggers from cata when I get home 😂
dapper chasm
I'm flying out now, so I'll rely on you guys to post the UIs
Obviously what people produce here is arse-gravy compared to my professional work, but this is the time for you to "shine"
wintry dew
Vicious mounts now available (https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-vicious-mounts-now-available-to-purchase-for-vicious-saddles-346120)
gusty hedge
Dafuq, I'm equipping my leggo daggers from cata when I get home 😂
sadly it has been fixed
wanton breach
could someone please tell me where to find the pvp vendors in dornogal
potent pivot
could someone please tell me where to find the pvp vendors in dornogal
near the main gate
one moment i'll get a screenshot
potent pivot
could someone please tell me where to find the pvp vendors in dornogal
where my arrow and the red dots are
there's 2 rooms with diff vendors and a bunch of pvp dummies outside
i'm still trying to decide if i like this city more than Valdrakken 
marble crag
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Felipe Sexo?
exotic dove
Hey for Assa what hero talent you guys liking? I been trying out Deathstalker and seems fun so far. I didnt really test Rogue too much on the beta
azure rapids
is it me or does Outlaw do decent dmg in PVP, been going with trickster mostly 😛
potent pivot
the way hero talents are tuned the damage is pretty close between them, though for assa i prefer deathstalker because of it's defensives
lime oar
Catching up on the convo so super late but damn I completely forgot about that series. Man I think I read to the 6th or 7th book.
hidden moth
with deathstalker always open with ambush rights? so ambush garrote rupture?
lime oar
Oops that was supposed to reply to @wintry dew about the icewind dale series
potent pivot
with deathstalker always open with ambush rights? so ambush garrote rupture?
yeah, whatever target you plan on marking you have to use ambush from stealth on
hidden moth
is it worth marking the 3 targets?
potent pivot
can only mark 1 target at a time
marble crag
is it worth marking the 3 targets?
hahaha 3 targets. Nice one
marble crag
It should tomorrow. And cap removed
potent pivot
so much to do so little time to do it 
wintry dew
Oops that was supposed to reply to <@256188402116984832> about the icewind dale ...
so you've read drizzt 3 books and then the volume 4/5/6?
potent pivot
so you've read drizzt 3 books and then the volume 4/5/6?
how much longer? 
wintry dew
wintry dew
are you going to play tonight?
oh you bet i am
me and GF ready for launch
im still on vacation this whole week
potent pivot
wintry dew
i really want this mount https://www.wowhead.com/item=224150/siesbarg#comments
potent pivot
i kinda want that other purple ethereal
lime oar
so you've read drizzt 3 books and then the volume 4/5/6?
Yes indeed
wintry dew
man im still book1
and i'm loving it
If you remember anything, im at the part where Mother Malice wants to send drizzt to the "fighting school"
lime oar
It pulls you in. Drizzt backstory is so epic
wintry dew
Zaknefein, his teacher, is so goddamn epic as well
So i can expect him to either die
or sacrifice himself for drizzt safety
wintry dew
where we're chillin
wintry dew
barely farmed any honor <:KEKL:938540034276065370>
did you saw the potion?
or flask
for honor gain
rotund pumice
Haven't played much yet, but have people started dueling around this area? It would be cool if we got some area people like to duel at
potent pivot
did you saw the potion?
yeah is that out rn?
wintry dew
amazing question
wintry dew
yeah is that out rn?
potent pivot
:O
potent pivot
Haven't played much yet, but have people started dueling around this area? It wo...
not yet it's been pretty empty
old sun
where i can return quest something different? Went on a brawl, got quest but i do not see any way to complete it
potent pivot
its in the pvp area
spring bough
Launch day
marble oasis
bro that flask is busted this early! full gear in a few hours here i come
old sun
Launch day
ty
spring bough
Gonna play allllllll dayyyyyy long and pretend like I’m 14 again waiting for TBC at midnight 😂
I like how the new releases are tailored for after work hours 😂
spring bough
And in 13 hours you’ll be 80
wary aurora
Anyone have a good burst opener for assassin? Icyveins opener doesn't seem crazy but it also says assassin's aren't supposed to burst?
potent pivot
Anyone have a good burst opener for assassin? Icyveins opener doesn't seem crazy...
ye because they aren't really
wary aurora
Ok if that's the case then alright!
molten grove
Does anyone get random unstealth in pvp too ?
marble oasis
Does anyone get random unstealth in pvp too ?
i was just about to ask that!
not great when you're standing between 20 people in world pvp
wintry dew
Yo Ank you're back
proven kayak
Ye wassup
wintry dew
Haven't seen you around the channels in a while, how you doin?
proven kayak
I was trying to focus on my sport so I try to get away with all distractions I did pretty well so I can come back for expansions
spring bough
So rogue, DK and DH all 80. Hunter and warrior on their way. But I also got a Druid…. What one to do next. I’d do my monk but it’s only 60 🪦
wintry dew
I was trying to focus on my sport so I try to get away with all distractions I d...
Chad mentality, proud man lets go
proven kayak
How about you
wintry dew
I've been around, chillin with the homies here
potent pivot
we're also getting a lot of random cantrip items while leveling
items with effects can sometimes fuck with stealth
spring bough
With stealth bugs
In BGs last night I would stealth and sprint off the start and halfway to the other team stealth just randomly starts to break 😭
proven kayak
Cool I would chill here aswell now with more solo content I’m able to play without being online for long time everyday
Waiting for the normal release tonight
wintry dew
Me too
proven kayak
In BGs last night I would stealth and sprint off the start and halfway to the ot...
It always happens might be some times the macros or some talent or some item
spring bough
Can we do premade on random BG? I’m about to get into one later if we can 😂
potent pivot
you can ye
spring bough
Where were u doing this? Wanna get my monk to 70 fast lol
potent pivot
Where were u doing this? Wanna get my monk to 70 fast lol
prepatch event
spring bough
I saw fistweaving is back
Only way I can heal LOL. Just by doing dmg and passively healing. Bout to have some fun w fast healer ques
peak jolt
sadly it has been fixed <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
oh, well. Probably a good thing
stoic spruce
I was trying to focus on my sport so I try to get away with all distractions I d...
What's your sport?
proven kayak
What's your sport?
Jiujitsu
proven kayak
Cool man you should try it is fun but a bit of taxing for the body
proven kayak
https://tenor.com/view/onepixel-oop-oopdao-gif-24467949
I’m just getting spam cyclones dad
stoic spruce
She tries to do stuff to me but I'm just too heavy lol
proven kayak
She tries to do stuff to me but I'm just too heavy lol
Respectable
spring bough
all my chars are herb/mining right now lol
i think when this next AH money bag hits my mail im at 100k since yesterday in just down time farming lol
potent pivot
all my chars are herb/mining right now lol
if you're doing any questing it might be good to have skinning/tailoring
but if you're just dungeon q'ing yeah i can see why lol
i went herb/mining on druid but i'll prolly switch it to skin/tailor later for 4x4 farms at 80
spring bough
im torn idk druid or monk next
the skyriding flight form is so sick and u can gather in that
either guardian tanking or fistweaving
potent pivot
are you equipping herb/mining gear?
spring bough
i did on the main. went to the ah for all the tools/accessories. for the rest i just did the white herb tool and axe lol
potent pivot
yeah i've just got the white tools on druid atm
do you have to equip them before you start herb/mining each node?
because that sounds annoying
spring bough
once u equip youre good its thru the skills pane
its on the top bar
u get 2 accessory slots and 1 tool slot for each
stuff is expensive too lol
spring bough
bismuth is selling like hot cakes rn
i put like a stack of 30 of them on the AH last night and it was like 1800
potent pivot
yeah i'm kinda torn between selling everything as i go or keeping for other chars
i have so many chars i'd like to make gold off a few diff profs
spring bough
i was so excited for BM and now I might just stop before 80 and get the druid or monk before lol
spring bough
yeah it does that lol
How long do we think a guardian Druid will take with instant Que and 15% xp inc…. About two hours? 😂
potent pivot
prolly pretty quick yeah
surreal barn
There’s an npc that makes it so that doesn’t happen
There was in DF and I’m sure there’s one in this main city too
marble crag
i have so many chars i'd like to make gold off a few diff profs
The longer you wait into the expac the cheaper the stuff gets so of you just want to make gold probably best to sell it asap
potent pivot
The longer you wait into the expac the cheaper the stuff gets so of you just wan...
don't think that's true right now
wintry dew
yeah i'm kinda torn between selling everything as i go or keeping for other char...
sell
Straight up just sell stuff, the longer the expansion runs the cheaper materials are
also keep in mind the following:
- Bots will be a thing tonight
you'll have 100x more materials entering the market, which means more people will decrease their price in order to sell faster
wintry dew
Its a 50/50 situation of success
either stuff tanks a lot, or prices go higher because high demand
potent pivot
a lot of prices aren't even great rn
wintry dew
" you'll have 100x more materials entering the market, which means more people will decrease their price in order to sell faster " this still a thing tho
potent pivot
like some herbs are already down to 30ea
surreal barn
I made enough gold for the whole expansion this last time by getting leatherworking up quickly. Works better after the bots lower those prices
wintry dew
I made enough gold for the whole expansion this last time by getting leatherwork...
This time around i wont focus on making gold
ill just do my own thing
surreal barn
ill just do my own thing
I won’t be able to either since I’ll be gone lol
September rolls around and you all will done beat the game
fallen wharf
What is a good sub burst opener? So many guides online, so many variations. Also, what are the standard macros I should have for PvP?
potent pivot
What is a good sub burst opener? So many guides online, so many variations. Al...
i can DM you a list of macros to choose from
stoic spruce
Or
potent pivot
as for opener, it heavily depends on your talent build
that's why you'll see a lot of varience
stoic spruce
Or, I can put both my hands behind my back and you choose which hand, revealing which macro you will receive.
fallen wharf
Yes, please DM and thanks. I imported the string from the pin for talent setup.
LOL Ghoulish
spring bough
level 72 after two dungeon ques with 15% xp
guardian is OP lol
just moonfire spam now
potent pivot
Yes, please DM and thanks. I imported the string from the pin for talent setup.
with that build your main gold is to get Danse Macabre stacks during Dance
stoic spruce
Aww sorry martoch, you got the /cast sap /silly macro. Better luck next time.
potent pivot
so during an opener with Blades active it's like: kidney->sepsis->secret tech->strike->evis
you can also put rupture in there if the target isn't already ruptured
from your First Dance 4 combo points
spring bough
i love guardian gameplay over vengeance DH. moonfire spam too ez
fallen wharf
Thank you
spring bough
god druid is the ultimate aoe tank
molten grove
guardian is OP lol
The scaling is insane too when you reach like level 76+ you pray to not get destroyed
azure rapids
So whats the Strongest Spec so far in everybodys oppinion? Sub /Assa or Outlaw
Sub somehow feels chunkier than Outlaw :P:
potent pivot
all 3 specs are good rn
proven kayak
It’s always mastery
river pollen
i go agilitym vers, mastery, critical, haste
also really hope we can get a new epic bg one day im so tired of ashran
drifting rover
Why sub is better than Assa in most tier list. I try both and assa looks more comfortable in bgs and world PvP. But I am average player and i might be missing something
red atlas
Ok tyvm, is there any point in mastery % that I should prio crit?
river pollen
I was told to go to about 120% mastery before worrying about the stats that are secondary to that
so its a LOT of mastery haha
basically you should try your best to always get mastery over critical strike
potent pivot
Why sub is better than Assa in most tier list. I try both and assa looks more co...
a good sub > a good assa
river pollen
except for weapons cus daggers dont always have mastery
potent pivot
assa tends to be easier for the average player to do okay on
spring bough
up to 76 on the druid after about an hour or so lol
potent pivot
tank q op
azure rapids
is Outlaw still gearing towards Crit first then mast and vers?
potent pivot
is Outlaw still gearing towards Crit first then mast and vers?
!stats
lethal roostBOT
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste=/=Crit
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 25% Haste on Outlaw for 0.8s GCD during ADR.
vocal surge
Looks like Rogue is gonna suck to play for a bit at the start of TWW
potent pivot
you might not be able to get 25% haste in s1 without sacrificing a lot
but at least 15% and running Take em by Surprise is recommended
potent pivot
Looks like Rogue is gonna suck to play for a bit at the start of TWW
why lol
looks pretty good to me
vocal surge
There's so many bugs rn
Crackshot breaking every 5 seconds
Randomly you just get dropped in stealth
in DF and before it was like once or twice a day
Now it's happening every game
waxen meteor
yeah
vocal surge
These 2 are the biggest things making Rogue really rough to play
waxen meteor
also for me, vanish doesn't really work for 20-30% of the time
vocal surge
^
potent pivot
that's really just a bg issue
outer sky
@potent pivot you ever do anymore haste vs crit outlaw testing?
waxen meteor
it vanishes, but you show up right away
potent pivot
doesn't happen like that in arena
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> you ever do anymore haste vs crit outlaw testing?
not yet - going to today
potent pivot
i've still got my notes from the haste test open
need to finish it before beta closes though
vocal surge
no one has popped CDs yet, just mounting and hiding behind pillars
potent pivot
i haven't even had it in a bg yet
so idk what yall got going on
it's gotta be from playing with a specific class
just like necro druid in SL
potent pivot
in a row in arenas
what classes were you playing with
vocal surge
Mage - Mage
potent pivot
report it in game
vocal surge
and then it was Unholy DK + DIsc Priest
potent pivot
we need some shadowplays of it
to send
would be dope
other than that all we can do is report it
vocal surge
My Team vs Enemy Team
OR + FrM vs UDK + Support Evoker
OR + FiM vs x2 DHs
OR + UDK + DP vs DeW + UDK + DP
already did lol
spring bough
i haven't even had it in a bg yet
happened to me all last night in BGs
i would enter match. pop adrenaline, RTB, SND and restealth and then it would just keep knocking me out
lime oar
Yall sure ur not just getting hit by aoe? 1.5 second on vanish invulnerability now
spring bough
fresh off the startt of a match
wasnt even near enemy
would go into stealth and it would kick me out restealth kick me out
rinse repeat
halcyon timber
Notice it when friendlies apply shields such as the chi ji little shield he applies and sometimes something with discipline priest shielding
spring bough
i can try to run some BGs and record it
its gotta be some friendly spell knocking us out
or maybe even flurry or adrenaline?
halcyon timber
Something from paladins when you’re stalking them from 50+ yards and SP (for testing purposes - not exaggerating) tried to test ranges for stuff
Adaptive swarm will try to tag you too as it does its bounces after you have vanished/ stealthed
spring bough
guardian druid tanking literally has become trash and moonfire spam and thats all if feels like lol
potent pivot
yeah i mean in normal dungeons you prolly don't even have to press defensives
spring bough
nope lol
moonfire dmg heals u
arcane**
and thrash / moonfire does arcane lol
and if u get a moonfire hero talent proc u can sit at 100 rage and spam Razee lol
level 70-74 DKs should sell their leveling services lol
inland thorn
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-removes-ability-to-disable-experience-gain...
this is so cringe lmao
I wanted to keep an alt at 70 for profession farming now it's all fucked
potent pivot
why does it need to stay at 70 for that
inland thorn
easier to smash everything because the scaling isn't made properly
inland thorn
elite humanoids for cloth
wanton breach
ahahahaha
potent pivot
molten grove
i can try to run some BGs and record it
Sometimes when i'm alone, not moving, it unstealth too
I recorded like 5 unstealth in 3-4 minutes
One time a blue orb goes on me, maybe a boomy friendly spell, but it break my stealth too
I just saw, mage buff, unstealth too
wintry dew
We are in such a weird spot right now
molten grove
In bg, i play unstealth, i just stealth when in range of shadowstep, i stealth and insta tp to open
spring bough
We are in such a weird spot right now
elite outlaw happening if we either tip good or bad lol
not finishing S1 without it this time lol
wintry dew
I'll probably farm it as well as assassination
molten grove
i'm a 1K2 mmr player, so i just want to have fun, but bugs are unfun
surreal barn
Ruptured something as deathstalker and died. After res in the bg it had me in combat still from the ticks
Just something to be wary of
potent pivot
Ruptured something as deathstalker and died. After res in the bg it had me in co...
this has been happening to me as well yeah
surreal barn
Idk if I’m even going deathstalker anymore
The 20 yard saps and 1.8mill ERs are insane as trickster
surreal barn
It’s far enough away that you can sap at open and do your opener on someone and include sap in it on the healer
surreal barn
1m envenoms in no gear
Damn.
potent pivot
You can craft pvp gear too
yeah it's just super expensive if you can't craft it yourself
molten grove
I spend like 20k gold for it, so not so bad they sell way more in Ah
potent pivot
I spend like 20k gold for it, so not so bad they sell way more in Ah
each piece is like 50-100k on my server
molten grove
they hardest part if to find someone who can craft it
I just bougth reagent, and set a public order with 2k comm
spring bough
1/16 pieces down for the honor gear up
molten grove
potent pivot
isle of dorn quest has a piece
i'm not seeing it
molten grove
i'm not seeing it
you are in war mode ?
molten grove
the mats are expensive no?
Not so much
molten grove
if engineer you can try to have someone to craft for you, cause recipe is expensive, but 3k gold worth of reagents
spring bough
so this honor gear going live at launch time or is it reset tomorrow?
cause if its tn gonna go stack my two alts w 4k honor and deck my rogue lol
waxen meteor
bg is doing scaling?
spring bough
this new priest hero talent gives u like skeleton angel wings
waxen meteor
most of my tww random gears from quest/map/rare etc. becomes lv600 in bg
molten grove
bg is doing scaling?
600 if i remember correctly
spring bough
so mythic Nyzoth is soloable now
potent pivot
has been for a little while iirc?
spring bough
had no idea it was lol
got the cloak and all ready to group for it and this dude was like yea u can do this by urself and u havent needed the cloak in a year
vital crane
@spring bough can you even stacks honor on alts ?
i thought it was 4k honor cap all around since its transferable
potent pivot
i thought it was 4k honor cap all around since its transferable
i think it's 4k per char
potent pivot
but i did see a tooltip this morning with an 8.8k warband limit
last jasper
what, you can buy them too ?
you need 1 per piece? You should have them by this time
molten grove
you need 1 per piece? You should have them by this time
Between 3 and 6 per items
last jasper
oh, okay. anyway, I sold for 20k from 1 toon myself
potent pivot
oh, okay. anyway, I sold for 20k from 1 toon myself
what, the mat for making pvp gear?
spring bough
if i played more PVE than PVP and they still did end boss fights like Nzoth id have quit lol
last jasper
what, the mat for making pvp gear?
yeap. they drop from pvp cache
and a recipe for pvp gear for 80k 😄
spring bough
mythic nzoth set complete finally
potent pivot
mythic nzoth set complete finally
spring bough
and i got the sword / dag to go with it
id post it in the mog channel but i dont wanna get fullset flamed
potent pivot
i still want the BfD set
spring bough
bfd?
jolly sierra
id post it in the mog channel but i dont wanna get fullset flamed
dw sadly some of them are very picky w xmogs
potent pivot
battle for dazarlor
jolly sierra
if there are 4> pieces from the same set = 
molten grove
the other mats are 20-50k per
No need, it's for pve ilvl, the pvp ilvl don't change
jolly sierra
i think they will flame less if u use 3 or so plus some stuff mixed
potent pivot
usually they only say that when someone is trying to show off their mog
molten grove
No need, it's for pve ilvl, the pvp ilvl don't change
Even with tier 1 mats
hexed pewter
who's easier to use in pvp, MM or sin?
potent pivot
No need, it's for pve ilvl, the pvp ilvl don't change
worddd
jolly sierra
usually they only say that when someone is trying to show off their mog
that or something like "slutmog"
spring bough
80/120 sets
potent pivot
who's easier to use in pvp, MM or sin?
comparing hunter to rogue is ... uhh..
ranged specs are almost always easier than melee
jolly sierra
who's easier to use in pvp, MM or sin?
MM is like playing pokemon from lvl 1 using all at lvl 100 without badge restrict
hexed pewter
comparing hunter to rogue is ... uhh..
which class would you recommend to a new player?
jolly sierra
hunter
potent pivot
which class would you recommend to a new player?
i would play whatever class you think is the coolest
and try to learn it
if you limit yourself to learning the easiest thing it won't help you learn the more difficult thing later really
hexed pewter
yeah i tried almost all and i like these 2, i cant decide so i'd go with the easiest
spring bough
trying to play MM after being use to melee is so hard lol
jolly sierra
if you limit yourself to learning the easiest thing it won't help you learn the ...
he just want the easiest, dw about the reply
and the easiest here overall is MM hunter
potent pivot
i just think that's a weird way to look at wow
azure rapids
when can we start buying Honor gear?
potent pivot
so i'm going to give my opinion
jolly sierra
nah for new players its fine to pick the easiest one
potent pivot
when can we start buying Honor gear?
should be after the launch today
jolly sierra
when i started i was a pally and sticked w rogs after a lot of years
potent pivot
nah for new players its fine to pick the easiest one
it's really not, if they want to play something else later
spring bough
its still not on vendors yet i keep checking loool
potent pivot
learning a hunter isn't gonna help you learn the class you'd rather play
jolly sierra
it's really not, if they want to play something else later
disagree, u can always learn something anytime later
spring bough
i know they can just enable the quests but wont they need a server restart to enable gear on vendors?
jolly sierra
they just wanna learn the basics at first
starting w a too complex class just discourage learning
last jasper
I often hear bm is the easiest
jolly sierra
same as starting w rogue, look at hyper, he started rog as sub xd
and we all know what happened
that is the reason you are auto transfered to newcomer servers and adviced to play both DH or hunter at first
cuz are easier to play and learn the game
u can play anything later and catch the trick, starting ASAP w the class u like and being complex itself is just overstressing
wintry dew
same as starting w rogue, look at hyper, he started rog as sub xd
he actually played hunter, then tried rogue, heheh
jolly sierra
he actually played hunter, then tried rogue, heheh
heheheheheh why he didnt started as assa
stubborn move
potent pivot
azure rapids
What you going with on Outlaw PVP , Trickster or Fatebound?
potent pivot
i just can't understand this kind of mindset
jolly sierra
potent pivot
What you going with on Outlaw PVP , Trickster or Fatebound?
fatebound
potent pivot
it's better
azure rapids
so how you bursting with it, what`s the prio ?
potent pivot
double grapple is cool for running through the open world, hard to use in any meaningful way in arena
wdym whats the prio
outlaw plays exactly the same with both trees
it's not really a burst spec
azure rapids
ohh ok,
i thought stuff changed with the hero talents 😛
still fav specc,even if Sub is superior in getting the job done quick and safe
Outlaw is still always more fun 😄
potent pivot
i thought stuff changed with the hero talents 😛
not really no
azure rapids
but for some reason i doesn t feel as chunky anymore, or maybe the no gear thing right now
potent pivot
though even deathstalker barely changed it
azure rapids
like you can keep bursting for quite a while
rogue is least changed class so far,
but still it doesn t bother me that much
spring bough
ngl some of these new rogue sets go so good on kul tirn
azure rapids
😄
spring bough
lurking set is fire
azure rapids
what`s the tier bonuses?
jolly sierra
ngl some of these new rogue sets go so good on kul tirn
under panda logic any xmog which look loose enough due to the material and textures should look fine at kul tirans
like DF s2 rog set
or any druid stuff
if material looks to tight like SL s3 tier set then will look weird
spring bough
like DF s2 rog set
yeah sets so fire as kul tiran so is s3/4
potent pivot
what`s the tier bonuses?
for which spec?
azure rapids
Outlaw
potent pivot
outlaw's is trash
potent pivot
we won't run it in pvp unless they change it
i don't think they're even running it in pve from what i've heard
azure rapids
damn
severe helm
fatebound
honestly I think trickster might be better
just cuz KS is a marginally useful burst button
fatebound seems like more overall dps though
potent pivot
it doesn't buff killing spree directly though
severe helm
it does
potent pivot
KS just applies
severe helm
kind of
cuz fazed increases damage taken
and heads coins are more random
fazed into coup proc is like a more controllable burst you can release
spring bough
i want to ignore that reality :))
outlaw gonna need mostly crafted pieces for all the verse, crit and lil haste we will need
severe helm
its very hard to say this early I'll def try both
azure rapids
personally i like trickster more
potent pivot
everything i've seen says fatebound is better
spring bough
that set bonus in pvp gonna be so watered down
potent pivot
but we'll see
severe helm
fatebound is def better for pve
spring bough
fate feels better rn but trickster is just as good on BGs. i notice fate better in arenas most def
severe helm
but there really hasnt been much testing on pvp yet
surreal barn
All I know is trickster/sub they die in a kidney
azure rapids
Sub is Deathstalker 100%
potent pivot
outlaw gonna need mostly crafted pieces for all the verse, crit and lil haste we...
if we end up running haste we'll need more crafted pieces with haste instead of crit
spring bough
plus shadowstep ontop of grapple
severe helm
if we end up running haste we'll need more crafted pieces with haste instead of ...
we def have to run haste
youre losing a gcd in crackshot otherwise
10% is the requirement for HO builds though
its not bad
potent pivot
that's what i've been saying
spring bough
if we end up running haste we'll need more crafted pieces with haste instead of ...
need like 10% from gear for HO so def gonna have some haste/vers pieces
severe helm
10% is nothing with the pvp gear scaling
spring bough
ehhhh
severe helm
crafted gear is 615 I think
potent pivot
how is it 10%
severe helm
cuz you get a 10% haste buff
when you go into stealth
so your crackshot is always hasted
potent pivot
yes but the gcd cap is 25% i though
severe helm
to get the max gcds in stealth
spring bough
i think the outlaw PVErs are going for 10% from gear for HO regardless of take em by surprise
severe helm
yeah
6/0.8
leaves you with a half gcd
so you want around 6/0.85
thats 7 gcds still
with like 60ms of grace period of mistimed gcds
severe helm
oh truuuuuu
have to rtb before every window though
might be troll if you hve a loaded dice already
and you have to roll it off
to not lose a gcd
severe helm
I mean yeah I usually run it but wouldnt like to have to be forced to rtb into my window
I think its still worht for the overall 10% even outside of stealthw indows
severe helm
ye ye
severe helm
very true
I'd love if I could make kir work for pvp
it might be possible with how CtO works now
easier to get the KiR conditions to occur
potent pivot
i just hate kir
surreal barn
Check out the synergy between Disorienting Strikes, Surprising Strikes, Perforated Veins, and The Rotten
spring bough
for 10% on RTB
this. using this pvp talent whole season
potent pivot
i dislike playing around PV
jolly sierra
All I know is trickster/sub they die in a kidney
ill note that
potent pivot
like depending on it for a burst window
surreal barn
Idk man, I put a WA up and it glows when it gets to 4 stacks
Then boom shadow duel
Dead
spring bough
crackshotted a DH to death in a cheap shot window LOL
surreal barn
Much more even with everyone having 2 vanishes
jolly sierra
crackshotted a DH to death in a cheap shot window LOL
deserved for being a DH
jolly sierra
Much more even with everyone having 2 vanishes
yeye
even more
so its weird to read that
azure rapids
So you running outlaw as main in blitz?
potent pivot
Idk man, I put a WA up and it glows when it gets to 4 stacks
what are you dropping to get Rotten tho?
dropping sepsis for PV is kinda w/e i wouldn't mind that as much
dropping Brew/Macabre i don't like
potent pivot
the one in the pins you mean?
waxen meteor
YEAH
molten grove
Much more even with everyone having 2 vanishes
the 2 charges vanish is a tww talent or was already in DF ?
waxen meteor
the one in the pins you mean?
you are taking the 30% more shadow dmg over evis dmg boost?
spring bough
So you running outlaw as main in blitz?
running outlaw main for all rateds lol
potent pivot
you are taking the 30% more shadow dmg over evis dmg boost?
either one is fine
spring bough
update 20: honor gear still not on vendor XD
potent pivot
update 20: honor gear still not on vendor XD
ye launch isn't for a few more hours i think
spring bough
3.5 more lol
sometimes they do stuff early never know XD
gonna see how much money i can make off herbs/mining till then
spring bough
ye launch isn't for a few more hours i think
found a specializations tab under herbs/mining.... time to find a guide lol
wintry dew
Yeaaaaaaah
thats a bunch of talents you can put points in
you can eventually put points EVERYWHERE and cap it
i usually try to find a node that lets me fly + gather
and max that one first
waxen meteor
wow the sin build is a bit suprising to me
olive minnow
can you mine on it?
spring bough
can mine and herb mounted
olive minnow
ui
lime oar
Oh damn I thought u could only herb on it
spring bough
maybe cant mine on golem but this mining guide says u can mine mounted
looks like u can do it for mining thru the spec Mining Fundamentals
yeah need 60 points in fundamentals then u can mine while mounted in Khaz
jolly sierra
expect sky golem raising in price
waxen meteor
i think the mining talent takes more points though
jolly sierra
jolly sierra
does they reset gathering talents w skyriding?
waxen meteor
yeah, where is it now?
i literally spent like 5 mins to find it
after i grabbed some random additional talent on world map
spring bough
okay double grapple is like ridic OP
gets me out of so many death situations not even funny
waxen meteor
i shoulda went with those trees first lol
yeah i went for wrong tree in DF s1 lol
so i took my lesson
spring bough
so many restealths from it
waxen meteor
yeah, where is it now?
@jolly sierra help!
jolly sierra
<@239851547935113216> help!
dude idk im sorry
just recall dragon riding was renamed skyriding
maybe u should check its icon in the minimap corner
potent pivot
sec
spring bough
time to download auctionator
spring bough
oh damn auctionator or auctioneer which one yall got
potent pivot
both mine and herb can be on mount
i don't think that's a thing anymore
thin axle
Is it a known bug that deathstalkers mark is not removed by blind, sap, or gouge? Or is that intended
spring bough
this box spawned on isle of dorn in pvp area and ally killing ally for it LOL
some guy in say goes "just stop we are all ally here" and of course he got a "FU" lol
potent pivot
Is it a known bug that deathstalkers mark is not removed by blind, sap, or gouge...
is it breaking it though?
thin axle
Yes
When u hit another player
Cuz of the one 5% talent
It makes swapping not work a lot of the time
spring bough
dont herb near the bees on isle of dorn lol. they swarm like real bees
potent pivot
peak jolt
Anyone using the addon "SafeQueue"?
trying to fix a lua error regarding "SetResetDisallowedIfNew" (a nil value). Might be the wrong channel for it, but it's an addon for PvP so figured someone might know
potent pivot
Why it wouldn’t?
it's breaking CC and you can't talent out of it if you're running deathstalker
sounds pretty bad to me
spring bough
@potent pivot arathor's spear, 10 of those just net me 1011 gold lol
last jasper
sounds pretty bad to me
You really expected blizzard to code it so it won’t do dam while under breakable cc?
potent pivot
yes that's exactly what i would expect
last jasper
Plus why would you mark a healer to begin with
last jasper
With ss
potent pivot
it's not as big a deal for sin
surreal barn
Rogues don’t have the luxury of not constantly swapping targets
last jasper
yes that's exactly what i would expect
They can’t code a tier set to not pull rogues from stealth. So
potent pivot
With ss
they definitely can
and they should be expected to
crying or being overly negative and dickish does nothing
last jasper
I’m not r1 or even consider myself good at PvP. But I don’t really see why would you ss or ambush a healer before a go
chrome schooner
I don't really see why people claim it is a bug
last jasper
I don't really see why people claim it is a bug
Same
chrome schooner
It is certainly annoying, and not well designed, but it is not a bug
potent pivot
not expecting something of that nature to not do dmg in breakable cc is wild
last jasper
You can control who you mark and you only can have 1 mark at a time
potent pivot
either that or have the breakable cc clear the mark
spring bough
Yall liking Dornogal more than valdrak? I’m loving the city vibe. Bank / ah area is great and so is the PvP area
last jasper
I like it by the one fact that it’s not tanking fps like it did in valdraken
spring bough
Was def those massive towers lol
potent pivot
the AH area has definitely tanked me a couple times already 
last jasper
More likely NPC dragons flying around.
last jasper
Yea. Not being in a cave feels good
spring bough
It’s like the city entrance area which is cool and it’s wide open with all the PvP dummies
I didn’t like being in the building for the dummies in valdrakk
last jasper
Yea, and constantly tagging tank dummy that kept you in combat.
Or just pve dummy with an aoe
jolly sierra
I like it by the one fact that it’s not tanking fps like it did in valdraken
that is enough for me XD
last jasper
that is enough for me XD
Same 😂
outer sky
Anyone know how to stop my weakaura from resetting its position every time I drag it?
potent pivot
Anyone know how to stop my weakaura from resetting its position every time I dra...
did you check these?
outer sky
yeah
potent pivot
hmmm
i swear i've had that happen to me and i figured it out but it was so long ago
spring bough
I might go healers all season. I just went a resto Druid and cleaved down a warrior doing 200k blade flurries 😂
Outlaw gonna be so much fun in rated blitz w this grapple too
indigo hill
Is it me or is Trickster the most boring nonsense?
spring bough
Both kinda are. Just all passive damage. Only added spell feels like this double grapple from fatebound lol
potent pivot
Anyone know how to stop my weakaura from resetting its position every time I dra...
try asking in #wow-general or a spec channel
lot more WA wizards there
spring bough
Speaking of WA. Checkout LE rogue one
It’s pretty nice. Also tracks ur last X number of windows for crackshot and death mark and totals up the damage from each go
And from shadow blades I guess too
peak jolt
Are the DR timers changed somehow? or?
In comp stomp I tried stunning someone when my DR timer went off, it said "immune"
swift smelt
I might go healers all season. I just went a resto Druid and cleaved down a warr...
you are giving me hope, my dps in dungeons on outlaw was abysmal compared to my dh, really just want to play outlaw, rogue pvp is too fun.
potent pivot
there's other ways to immune CC
spring bough
In comp stomp I tried stunning someone when my DR timer went off, it said "immun...
What was the class?
peak jolt
rogue
potent pivot
but also in battlegrounds i'm pretty sure DR tracking can be fucked
spring bough
you are giving me hope, my dps in dungeons on outlaw was abysmal compared to my ...
Idc if I somehow have to play a whacked KIR build I’m making outlaw work lol
peak jolt
I know if I'm far away and someone uses a stun or whatever. But it was me vs AI rogue for the whole fight
peak jolt
rogue can evasion stuns
but he had no evasion up
I guess my real question is: Is it still 18 sec + aura duration in arenas?
peak jolt
ah, that's a thing?
potent pivot
comp stomp is fighting bots
peak jolt
yeah, I realized pretty quickly xD never actually done a comp stomp before
spring bough
They are pretty strong too
last jasper
Comp stomp has those weird buffs right? Like blitz?
No they don’t. It just normal bg with bots
spring bough
Cause no one has pvp gear
peak jolt
Yeah, I was shocked at first. Then felt stupid when I realized
potent pivot
No they don’t. It just normal bg with bots
they do use some weird items iirc
i've watched a bot drink a potion to break CC
peak jolt
That might have something to do with it 🤔
potent pivot
maybe it was that yeah
spring bough
Brother got FAPd by the bot
last jasper
Nah, bots are insane. I assume they are wearing PvP gear. And they troll. I had huner dance on my body after hitting aimed for 4mil
spring bough
https://wago.io/UootxwOhT if yall dont want a full WA suite. the dmg tracking is pretty cool
fallen wharf
What is up with being pulled out of stealth so much in PvP with nothing happening? Just walking around and I'm out all of the sudden.
potent pivot
it's a common occurrence
molten grove
What is up with being pulled out of stealth so much in PvP with nothing happenin...
They want us to reroll
spring bough
I have hope for trickster. Reading the PVE build and they said it would be viable if they hotfix something on it lol
spring bough
They need to add more secret mog stuff to the game lol
last jasper
ye the wowhead link has both
I saw the post. But there was no video. Only coordinates. So I skipped that one 😂
spring bough
Remember the lucid nightmare egg hunt to get that mount?
Stuff like that would be cool again
potent pivot
I saw the post. But there was no video. Only coordinates. So I skipped that one ...
there's...instructions...lol
last jasper
there's...instructions...lol
Im lazy. 😂 I prefer video or images 😂
Anyway. It just popped in my yt feed. So I shared
potent pivot
graceful ravine
<a:awkward_monkey_look:759243076556029983>
i misread this lol
spring bough
its faster to get to bases in AB as stealth and grapple hooks than it is to mount lol
been trying to get 1 overall on a BG all weekend.... marks hunter beat me out but got damn outlaw can pump
we are doing a good amount of self healing too its awesome
crimson vial is pumping
380k heals from it
waxen meteor
is 380k a lot?
potent pivot
nope
spring bough
not a lot but better than a lot of other classes
druid rejuv doing 90k ticks and crimson doing 380k ticks pretty decent id say lol
avg bloodthirst heal for the warrior was 217k
second wind for arms was doing 269k
worthy crag
honor gear is out with the launch today right
waxen meteor
honor gear is out with the launch today right
really?
potent pivot
should be yes
potent pivot
that's why we've been talking about farming 4k caps on multiple characters yesterday and today 
waxen meteor
let me log on and do the bot fight
spring bough
is 8k enough or do i need to go pvp on my DH too
spring bough
weps 900 x 2, 875 for helm, chest, legs
yeah def need like 3-4 chars
lmao
w/e get the big stuff outta the way with then pvp and get the rest
most def buying this leeching cloak enchant. adds healing out of combat now too
last jasper
is 8k enough or do i need to go pvp on my DH too
Keep in mind there is 20%(?) fee for transfer. So it won’t be 8k from one alt only
spring bough
lol
ight so getting weps, helm, chest, legs, medallion farming rest
found this crest quest is out
up to 55 each of weathered and carved crests
potent pivot
Keep in mind there is 20%(?) fee for transfer. So it won’t be 8k from one alt on...
Cap is 4k per
You really do lose a lot transferring it
spring bough
yeah we gonna be grinding the rest of our honor sets tn boys
supatease, venruki all the streamers already playing
GL out there lol
3 games today already had them in it RIP
potent pivot
Need to get some premade comp stomps going
spring bough
why cause they bots and u can win in 5 min?
thats pretty genius
infinite honor spam
there are people already camping at the honor vendor lol
potent pivot
Yeah normally you can keep them pushed to the graveyard lmao
spring bough
im playing against a rogue Shanktrickz.... dis you?? lol
potent pivot
im playing against a rogue Shanktrickz.... dis you?? lol
nope lol
my discord name and character names are very unrelated
my old pve characters had trickz in their names though
@wintry dew careful jumping into comp stomp as soon as you cap 80
spring bough
gotta stay in the shadows lol
wintry dew
<@256188402116984832> careful jumping into comp stomp as soon as you cap 80
i wont make it probably
to lvl 80
spring bough
youve got 12 minutes
wintry dew
before it goes away
wintry dew
thats why i was mad
potent pivot
it's really scaled high anyway so i'd recommend bgs anyway
spring bough
what is it tomorrow
potent pivot
i got faster honor running bgs at least
spring bough
getting close to 1k a win
looks like more ppl queing comp stomp tho
80 sec que avg vs 2 min on bgs
potent pivot
terrible day for my AC to go out again
potent pivot
yeah i did it yesterday
is there even anywhere to pick it up?
i feel like i just auto got it
muted abyss
we still pumping mastery on both sin and sub?
muted abyss
really?
muted abyss
yeah, I'd prolly just go with a mastery/vers/crit set first just so I can try out sub too
just sitting on the 4k honor, waiting for launch now
muted abyss
boo
spring bough
we are live??
muted abyss
yup, honor gear up
potent pivot
gear up yeah
spring bough
hell yeah just finishing a comp on my dk lol